Post by: SdK on March 01, 2011, 02:09:21 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Post by: doom on March 01, 2011, 02:12:39 PM
There ya go WillieWatanabe :kstatriot:
Anyone know how Jake's hand is?
Post by: Ira Hayes on March 01, 2011, 02:15:08 PM
There ya go WillieWatanabe :kstatriot:
Anyone know how Jake's hand is?
X-Rays were negative. It's just a flesh wound.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=11325.msg245653#msg245653
Post by: mcmwcat on March 01, 2011, 02:17:39 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 01, 2011, 02:29:35 PM
Post by: CNS on March 01, 2011, 02:33:05 PM
Post by: mcmwcat on March 01, 2011, 02:35:18 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 01, 2011, 03:52:36 PM
Post by: SdK on March 01, 2011, 03:56:22 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 01, 2011, 04:04:49 PM
Post by: SdK on March 01, 2011, 07:00:47 PM
I'mNOTgiving up
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQywmNxCd8E&feature=related
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 01, 2011, 07:03:06 PM
I'mNOTgiving up
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQywmNxCd8E&feature=related
They're setting themselves up for an epic meltdown.
Post by: SdK on March 01, 2011, 07:04:18 PM
:love:
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 01, 2011, 08:21:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARpzavb7PQk&feature=related
:love:
holy moly. that is ELITE
Post by: nicname on March 01, 2011, 09:14:54 PM
The Cats have a Golden opportunity to play their way into a 4 or even a 3 seed. It would take beating KU again for a 4, and probably winning the Phillips66 for the 3 (UT or no UT)
Post by: wetwillie on March 01, 2011, 09:17:25 PM
I think we are a firm 5 seed right now. Currently #17 in RPI, #6 in RPI SOS, Won 7 of 8 and 5 in a row, two huge quality wins, no bad losses. Kenpom still has us at 32 which is a bit low. Also, the committee seems to weigh the end of the season a bit more heavily than the whole body of work. They won't completely look the other way but I think the recent play will erase some of the early season negatives.
The Cats have a Golden opportunity to play their way into a 4 or even a 3 seed. It would take beating KU again for a 4, and probably winning the Phillips66 for the 3 (UT or no UT)
I guess the circumstances mitigate OSU being a bad loss and if Colorado finishes at .500 or better maybe that won't be a bad loss but I think you are painting too rosy a picture here.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 01, 2011, 09:24:07 PM
Post by: nicname on March 01, 2011, 09:25:30 PM
I think we are a firm 5 seed right now. Currently #17 in RPI, #6 in RPI SOS, Won 7 of 8 and 5 in a row, two huge quality wins, no bad losses. Kenpom still has us at 32 which is a bit low. Also, the committee seems to weigh the end of the season a bit more heavily than the whole body of work. They won't completely look the other way but I think the recent play will erase some of the early season negatives.
The Cats have a Golden opportunity to play their way into a 4 or even a 3 seed. It would take beating KU again for a 4, and probably winning the Phillips66 for the 3 (UT or no UT)
I guess the circumstances mitigate OSU being a bad loss and if Colorado finishes at .500 or better maybe that won't be a bad loss but I think you are painting too rosy a picture here.
Bad losses are generally considered losses to teams outside of the RPI top 100. OSU is no great team, but they aren't terrible especially at home. They are #61 in the RPI and closer to what would be a quality win than a bad loss.
Post by: nicname on March 01, 2011, 09:26:30 PM
I'd say we're a firm 6 right now. 5 might be a bit much yet.
You could be right. I'm also assuming a win over ISU, and another in the 4/5 game in the Phillips66 (a bit much to assume, I know.)
Post by: SdK on March 01, 2011, 09:31:51 PM
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_glockner/02/28/bracket.projection/index.html#
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:love:
I'd love it either way. I supposed that suspension may hurt their seeding though. May.
Post by: Andy on March 01, 2011, 10:22:43 PM
Post by: SdK on March 01, 2011, 10:28:17 PM
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 02, 2011, 09:51:31 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
Post by: mcmwcat on March 02, 2011, 09:54:00 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 02, 2011, 09:55:18 AM
Post by: mcmwcat on March 02, 2011, 10:00:42 AM
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2011, 10:22:32 AM
New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
For some reason a pop-up type thing is blocking part of our region on my phone. Who is the two in our region?
Post by: doom on March 02, 2011, 10:26:26 AM
New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
For some reason a pop-up type thing is blocking part of our region on my phone. Who is the two in our region?
purdoodoo
Post by: AbeFroman on March 02, 2011, 10:26:50 AM
New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
For some reason a pop-up type thing is blocking part of our region on my phone. Who is the two in our region?
Purdue :ohno:
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2011, 10:34:16 AM
New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
For some reason a pop-up type thing is blocking part of our region on my phone. Who is the two in our region?
Purdue :ohno:
I'd still like to kick their ass for the Alamo bowl, but...they aren't really on my preferred two seed list.
Post by: scottwildcat on March 02, 2011, 10:36:21 AM
New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
not taking an running
Post by: mcmwcat on March 02, 2011, 10:39:25 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 02, 2011, 11:24:42 AM
Post by: wetwillie on March 02, 2011, 11:29:52 AM
Great venue to showcase the team to D.C Assault kids :dubious:New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
not taking an running
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2011, 11:53:47 AM
Great venue to showcase the team to D.C Assault kids :dubious:New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
not taking an running
On the DC tip: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the68/
Also maybe the beard can draw even more strength from having such close proximity to the Lincoln Monument.
Post by: KSUTOMMY on March 02, 2011, 12:03:11 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 02, 2011, 12:15:39 PM
Do NOT want. Buuut, :ck: could exact his pound of flesh from UCONN... that would be fun.
Not sure if you're aware of the details of that story, but it didn't work out well for the exacter.
Post by: mcmwcat on March 02, 2011, 12:50:56 PM
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313
Dayton
Knoxville, Tenn.
1TENNESSEE
16SOUTHERN
8HOUSTON
9St. John's
Salt Lake City
5GREEN BAY
12BYU
4Florida State
13NORTHERN IOWA
Charlottesville
6North Carolina
11LSU
3Notre Dame
14LIBERTY
Albuquerque
7Temple
10Syracuse
2Texas A&M
15MCNEESE STATE
Spokane
Stanford, Calif
1STANFORD
16CAL POLY
8Texas Tech
9MARIST
Columbus, Ohio
5Ohio State
12Middle Tennessee
4Georgetown
13TOLEDO
University Park
6Penn State
11Duquesne
3DePaul
14ST. FRANCIS (PA.)
Shreveport, La.
7Iowa State
10LOUISIANA TECH
2Miami
15TENNESSEE TECH
Philadelphia
Storrs, Conn.
1CONNECTICUT
16UMBC
8Michigan
9Arizona State
Auburn, Ala.
5Oklahoma
12UALR
4Kentucky
13APPALACHIAN STATE
Wichita, Kan.
6Marquette
11Texas
3MICHIGAN STATE
14EAST TENNESSEE ST.
Durham, N.C.
7Louisville
10Vanderbilt
2DUKE
15HAMPTON
Dallas
Waco, Texas
1BAYLOR
16NORTHERN COLORADO
8Georgia
9West Virginia
College Park
5Iowa
12JAMES MADISON
4Maryland
13PRINCETON
Spokane, Wash.
6Georgia Tech
11GONZAGA
3UCLA
14ORAL ROBERTS
Cincinnati, Ohio
7Purdue
10Rutgers
2XAVIER
15NAVY
Post by: mcmwcat on March 02, 2011, 12:52:51 PM
1. Clemson
8. Rhode Island
4. Northwestern
5. Miami (FL)
2. Boston College
7. USC
3. Maryland
6. Wichita State
1. California
8. UTEP
4. VCU
5. Dayton
2. Butler
7. South Carolina
3. Harvard
6. Mississippi
1. Washington State
8. Rutgers
4. Drexel
5. Baylor
2. Marshall
7. Colorado State
3. James Madison
6. Valparasio
1. Southern Miss
8. Hofstra
4. Nebraska
5. Richmond
2. UCF
7. N.C. State
3. Oklahoma State
6. Arkansas
Read more: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-college-basketball/2011/03/nit-bracketology---return-of-the-bracket-predictor.html#ixzz1FTBoKkcD
Post by: mcmwcat on March 02, 2011, 12:53:55 PM
Post by: doom on March 02, 2011, 12:56:26 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2011, 01:45:28 PM
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 02, 2011, 01:49:05 PM
Lunardi hasn't updated his Bracketology yet, but on his blog he just posted his S-curve/Bracket math post. He has us as the worst 6 seed right now, just ahead of aTm, G Mason, and Temple. Just behind Nova, WVU, and Xavier.
Nova in the middle of a year-end nosedive too. 3 straight losses and looking at 4 playing @ Pitt saturday.
Post by: dmartin on March 02, 2011, 02:11:39 PM
LAST UPDATED: 02/28/11 1:00 AM ET | Automatic bids are in CAPS.
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Dayton
Knoxville, Tenn.
1TENNESSEE
16SOUTHERN
8HOUSTON
9St. John's
Salt Lake City
5GREEN BAY
12BYU
4Florida State
13NORTHERN IOWA
Charlottesville
6North Carolina
11LSU
3Notre Dame
14LIBERTY
Albuquerque
7Temple
10Syracuse
2Texas A&M
15MCNEESE STATE
Spokane
Stanford, Calif
1STANFORD
16CAL POLY
8Texas Tech
9MARIST
Columbus, Ohio
5Ohio State
12Middle Tennessee
4Georgetown
13TOLEDO
University Park
6Penn State
11Duquesne
3DePaul
14ST. FRANCIS (PA.)
Shreveport, La.
7Iowa State
10LOUISIANA TECH
2Miami
15TENNESSEE TECH
Philadelphia
Storrs, Conn.
1CONNECTICUT
16UMBC
8Michigan
9Arizona State
Auburn, Ala.
5Oklahoma
12UALR
4Kentucky
13APPALACHIAN STATE
Wichita, Kan.
6Marquette
11Texas
3MICHIGAN STATE
14EAST TENNESSEE ST.
Durham, N.C.
7Louisville
10Vanderbilt
2DUKE
15HAMPTON
Dallas
Waco, Texas
1BAYLOR
16NORTHERN COLORADO
8Georgia
9West Virginia
College Park
5Iowa
12JAMES MADISON
4Maryland
13PRINCETON
Spokane, Wash.
6Georgia Tech
11GONZAGA
3UCLA
14ORAL ROBERTS
Cincinnati, Ohio
7Purdue
10Rutgers
2XAVIER
15NAVY
UMMM, estroball, who cares?
Post by: gowildcatwildcat on March 02, 2011, 02:13:50 PM
LAST UPDATED: 02/28/11 1:00 AM ET | Automatic bids are in CAPS.
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313
Dayton
Knoxville, Tenn.
1TENNESSEE
16SOUTHERN
8HOUSTON
9St. John's
Salt Lake City
5GREEN BAY
12BYU
4Florida State
13NORTHERN IOWA
Charlottesville
6North Carolina
11LSU
3Notre Dame
14LIBERTY
Albuquerque
7Temple
10Syracuse
2Texas A&M
15MCNEESE STATE
Spokane
Stanford, Calif
1STANFORD
16CAL POLY
8Texas Tech
9MARIST
Columbus, Ohio
5Ohio State
12Middle Tennessee
4Georgetown
13TOLEDO
University Park
6Penn State
11Duquesne
3DePaul
14ST. FRANCIS (PA.)
Shreveport, La.
7Iowa State
10LOUISIANA TECH
2Miami
15TENNESSEE TECH
Philadelphia
Storrs, Conn.
1CONNECTICUT
16UMBC
8Michigan
9Arizona State
Auburn, Ala.
5Oklahoma
12UALR
4Kentucky
13APPALACHIAN STATE
Wichita, Kan.
6Marquette
11Texas
3MICHIGAN STATE
14EAST TENNESSEE ST.
Durham, N.C.
7Louisville
10Vanderbilt
2DUKE
15HAMPTON
Dallas
Waco, Texas
1BAYLOR
16NORTHERN COLORADO
8Georgia
9West Virginia
College Park
5Iowa
12JAMES MADISON
4Maryland
13PRINCETON
Spokane, Wash.
6Georgia Tech
11GONZAGA
3UCLA
14ORAL ROBERTS
Cincinnati, Ohio
7Purdue
10Rutgers
2XAVIER
15NAVY
Good to see you again Catfan28 :cheers:
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 02, 2011, 02:18:50 PM
The photo and the caption, love it :doom:
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2011, 02:20:26 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/kansas-state-among-most-dangerous-ncaa-tournament-teams-030111 (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/kansas-state-among-most-dangerous-ncaa-tournament-teams-030111)
The photo and the caption, love it :doom:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.foxsports.com%2Fcontent%2Ffscom%2Fimg%2F2011%2F03%2F02%2Fwhoscrazy-pi_20110302000237226_660_320.JPG&hash=b8af624fa25d0a7ad531fc883438d65065f70cb1)
Post by: doom on March 02, 2011, 02:34:22 PM
Post by: mcmwcat on March 02, 2011, 02:41:54 PM
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2011, 02:44:20 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/kansas-state-among-most-dangerous-ncaa-tournament-teams-030111 (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/kansas-state-among-most-dangerous-ncaa-tournament-teams-030111)
The photo and the caption, love it :doom:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.foxsports.com%2Fcontent%2Ffscom%2Fimg%2F2011%2F03%2F02%2Fwhoscrazy-pi_20110302000237226_660_320.JPG&hash=b8af624fa25d0a7ad531fc883438d65065f70cb1)
:lol: :love:
Post by: nicname on March 02, 2011, 10:59:39 PM
Post by: mcmwcat on March 03, 2011, 07:35:34 AM
Post by: SdK on March 03, 2011, 03:38:07 PM
http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm
Post by: kcchiefdav on March 03, 2011, 03:48:08 PM
While this doesn't give us brackets, it does well to track seeding from a boatload of websites.
http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm
This website is cac, anyone predicting brackets who isn't named Lunardi is wasting everyone's time.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 03, 2011, 03:52:14 PM
While this doesn't give us brackets, it does well to track seeding from a boatload of websites.
http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm
This website is cac, anyone predicting brackets who isn't named Lunardi is wasting everyone's time.
Lunardi is decent. http://bracketproject.50webs.com/rankings.html
Post by: SdK on March 03, 2011, 03:58:49 PM
While this doesn't give us brackets, it does well to track seeding from a boatload of websites.
http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm
This website is cac, anyone predicting brackets who isn't named Lunardi is wasting everyone's time.
Suck on my nuts...you find me a better site to track everyone's seed projections with links to the actual sites.
While this doesn't give us brackets, it does well to track seeding from a boatload of websites.
http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm
This website is cac, anyone predicting brackets who isn't named Lunardi is wasting everyone's time.
Lunardi is decent. http://bracketproject.50webs.com/rankings.html
Lunardi isn't very good when compared to the rest of those folks.
Post by: CNS on March 03, 2011, 03:59:01 PM
Post by: 88wildcat on March 03, 2011, 08:10:46 PM
NIT Bracket from the Bracket Predictor:
1. Clemson
8. Rhode Island
4. Northwestern
5. Miami (FL)
2. Boston College
7. USC
3. Maryland
6. Wichita State
1. California
8. UTEP
4. VCU
5. Dayton
2. Butler
7. South Carolina
3. Harvard
6. Mississippi
1. Washington State
8. Rutgers
4. Drexel
5. Baylor
2. Marshall
7. Colorado State
3. James Madison
6. Valparasio
1. Southern Miss
8. Hofstra
4. Nebraska
5. Richmond
2. UCF
7. N.C. State
3. Oklahoma State
6. Arkansas
Read more: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-college-basketball/2011/03/nit-bracketology---return-of-the-bracket-predictor.html#ixzz1FTBoKkcD
Paying attention to this is probably not a good way to score a high quality of life index but these seeds are whack. Baylor and Richmond have been living on the last four in/last four out line in the NCAA for the last two months and they are five seeds in the NIT? Meanwhile California who has not even appeared in a next four out part of anyone's bracket all year is a one seed?
Post by: mcmwcat on March 03, 2011, 08:41:34 PM
NIT Bracket from the Bracket Predictor:
1. Clemson
8. Rhode Island
4. Northwestern
5. Miami (FL)
2. Boston College
7. USC
3. Maryland
6. Wichita State
1. California
8. UTEP
4. VCU
5. Dayton
2. Butler
7. South Carolina
3. Harvard
6. Mississippi
1. Washington State
8. Rutgers
4. Drexel
5. Baylor
2. Marshall
7. Colorado State
3. James Madison
6. Valparasio
1. Southern Miss
8. Hofstra
4. Nebraska
5. Richmond
2. UCF
7. N.C. State
3. Oklahoma State
6. Arkansas
Read more: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-college-basketball/2011/03/nit-bracketology---return-of-the-bracket-predictor.html#ixzz1FTBoKkcD
Paying attention to this is probably not a good way to score a high quality of life index but these seeds are whack. Baylor and Richmond have been living on the last four in/last four out line in the NCAA for the last two months and they are five seeds in the NIT? Meanwhile California who has not even appeared in a next four out part of anyone's bracket all year is a one seed?
wushock as 6 seed is BS.
Post by: doom on March 03, 2011, 08:45:41 PM
Post by: FHSU92 on March 03, 2011, 08:50:04 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 04, 2011, 09:16:46 AM
6 seed/west -Georgia-Syracuse-BYU-Duke
It doesn't get more amazing than that fellas
:bracketmouse:
Post by: Pete on March 04, 2011, 09:23:09 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
6 seed/west -Georgia-Syracuse-BYU-Duke
It doesn't get more amazing than that fellas
:bracketmouse:
If we play in Seattle, I'm going. Not joking.
Post by: Pete on March 04, 2011, 09:27:21 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
6 seed/west -Georgia-Syracuse-BYU-Duke
It doesn't get more amazing than that fellas
:bracketmouse:
If we play in Seattle, I'm going. Not joking.
OOOOHHHH, Washington the City, not the State. Would maybe go there.
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 04, 2011, 09:28:16 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
6 seed/west -Georgia-Syracuse-BYU-Duke
It doesn't get more amazing than that fellas
:bracketmouse:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthelongbox.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F06%2Fkirk-bones.gif&hash=30b59f339bd00f7647661825445b6d575bda48c0)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 04, 2011, 09:28:27 AM
Post by: sunny_cat on March 04, 2011, 09:50:49 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
6 seed/west -Georgia-Syracuse-BYU-Duke
It doesn't get more amazing than that fellas
:bracketmouse:
Finally seeded above MU. :fatty:
Post by: dmartin on March 04, 2011, 09:53:46 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
6 seed/west -Georgia-Syracuse-BYU-Duke
It doesn't get more amazing than that fellas
:bracketmouse:
Careful, Bucknell is in that region... :ohno:
Post by: steve dave on March 04, 2011, 09:55:21 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
6 seed/west -Georgia-Syracuse-BYU-Duke
It doesn't get more amazing than that fellas
:bracketmouse:
Careful, Bucknell is in that region... :ohno:
:jerk:
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2011, 11:15:54 AM
:bracketmouse:
Post by: Acceleration Man on March 04, 2011, 11:29:43 AM
Post by: wetwillie on March 04, 2011, 11:36:33 AM
Post by: kstate4life on March 04, 2011, 11:42:00 AM
Post by: caliblue15 on March 04, 2011, 12:29:25 PM
Post by: SdK on March 04, 2011, 01:34:04 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
Post by: tyLRRRR on March 04, 2011, 01:38:18 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 04, 2011, 01:41:39 PM
Oh man, absolutely :excited: over the Joe Lunardi bracket. Dook rematch, Jimmer and Pinstripe Bowl Pt2. Yes please.
Yeah that'd be awesome. Ideal even.
Post by: sunny_cat on March 04, 2011, 01:44:41 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
You sound pretty confident about reaching the championship of the Phillips 66.
Post by: steve dave on March 04, 2011, 01:49:04 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
I think we win two more....and have a chance
Post by: dmartin on March 04, 2011, 02:42:44 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
wow, BYU already down to a 4 seed.
Post by: SdK on March 04, 2011, 03:59:07 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
You sound pretty confident about reaching the championship of the Phillips 66.
Depend upon how the seeding pans out. I haven't seen any reason to doubt our ability to make it there. Isn't that what we base our beliefs upon? That and purple tinted glasses with beards attached.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2011, 04:02:56 PM
Post by: Cackle on March 04, 2011, 04:46:29 PM
I don't feel like he's confident enough.http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a effing seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
You sound pretty confident about reaching the championship of the Phillips 66.
:bracketmouse:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 04, 2011, 04:47:44 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
If I were going to predict beating KU in the semifinals, I think I would just go ahead and predict winning the whole damn thing.
Post by: SdK on March 04, 2011, 05:20:47 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
If I were going to predict beating KU in the semifinals, I think I would just go ahead and predict winning the whole damn thing.
I'm still waiting on seeding because like it's been said...this league is B-A-N-A-N-A-S!!!! :pbj: (this is called pbj and I've never understood why)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 04, 2011, 05:30:13 PM
I'm still waiting on seeding because like it's been said...this league is B-A-N-A-N-A-S!!!! :pbj: (this is called pbj and I've never understood why)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ZAGBL6UBA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ZAGBL6UBA)
Post by: SdK on March 04, 2011, 05:32:06 PM
I'm still waiting on seeding because like it's been said...this league is B-A-N-A-N-A-S!!!! :pbj: (this is called pbj and I've never understood why)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ZAGBL6UBA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ZAGBL6UBA)
thanks :thumbsup:
Post by: SdK on March 05, 2011, 07:23:45 PM
I think he meant KSU, thanks for the kiss on the cheek followed by the slap on the face Digger!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 05, 2011, 07:51:53 PM
I think he meant KSU, thanks for the kiss on the cheek followed by the slap on the face Digger!
no, he meant KU. He was referring to something else. But you correct about the 6 seed part.
Post by: PowercatPat on March 05, 2011, 08:25:19 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
You sound pretty confident about reaching the championship of the Phillips 66.
Depend upon how the seeding pans out. I haven't seen any reason to doubt our ability to make it there. Isn't that what we base our beliefs upon? That and purple tinted glasses with beards attached.
You still think we'll make it that far? We'll play KU in the quarterfinals if we win.
Post by: sunny_cat on March 05, 2011, 08:34:51 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
You sound pretty confident about reaching the championship of the Phillips 66.
Depend upon how the seeding pans out. I haven't seen any reason to doubt our ability to make it there. Isn't that what we base our beliefs upon? That and purple tinted glasses with beards attached.
You still think we'll make it that far? We'll play KU in the quarterfinals if we win.
semi
Post by: PowercatPat on March 05, 2011, 08:43:06 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
You sound pretty confident about reaching the championship of the Phillips 66.
Depend upon how the seeding pans out. I haven't seen any reason to doubt our ability to make it there. Isn't that what we base our beliefs upon? That and purple tinted glasses with beards attached.
You still think we'll make it that far? We'll play KU in the quarterfinals if we win.
semi
Correct. My bad.
Post by: SdK on March 05, 2011, 08:43:07 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
You sound pretty confident about reaching the championship of the Phillips 66.
Depend upon how the seeding pans out. I haven't seen any reason to doubt our ability to make it there. Isn't that what we base our beliefs upon? That and purple tinted glasses with beards attached.
You still think we'll make it that far? We'll play KU in the quarterfinals if we win.
Semifinals I believe. Yes, I believe we can beat KU. We have better Seniors. I understand ThRob will be in this game, and that will change things. I just think that our team looks really mentally tough this year. We never seem to get rattled. We play under control for the most part. We play great defense. We're making threes at a good rate. The Morris Twins just don't intimidate me or the team. I think that is the biggest factor. I feel like Kelly and Pullen are playing their best ball right in time for the tournament and that creates opportunities for other guys on the team, and they are making good with those shots.
I realize, I'm nowhere near the analytical mind of others on this board, but this is how I feel about a possible rematch. I'm not saying we will win, but I don't think we need to be cautious with our optimism.
I Believe! :emawkid:
Post by: steve dave on March 06, 2011, 10:46:59 AM
updated, 6 v. play in winner (Marquette/Clemson/MI State/VT) to then face Purdue.....do not take/stand with arms crossed :dubious:
Post by: Panjandrum on March 06, 2011, 10:55:17 AM
I think he meant KSU, thanks for the kiss on the cheek followed by the slap on the face Digger!
no, he meant KU. He was referring to something else. But you correct about the 6 seed part.
Digger did say on Gameday yesterday that we were the hottest team in the nation.
Not debunking you. Just didn't have a better place to put the reference and this seemed sufficient.
Post by: sys on March 06, 2011, 12:48:21 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
updated, 6 v. play in winner (Marquette/Clemson/MI State/VT) to then face Purdue.....do not take/stand with arms crossed :dubious:
why would a play in winner have an 11 seed? that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Post by: sys on March 06, 2011, 12:54:26 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
updated, 6 v. play in winner (Marquette/Clemson/MI State/VT) to then face Purdue.....do not take/stand with arms crossed :dubious:
why would a play in winner have an 11 seed? that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
nevermind, i guess the math works. thought they should have been 12s.
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on March 06, 2011, 02:49:04 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on March 06, 2011, 03:50:05 PM
Post by: EllToPay on March 06, 2011, 08:34:38 PM
http://everydayismarch.wordpress.com/
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 06, 2011, 08:37:03 PM
my god, give it to me now.
http://everydayismarch.wordpress.com/
It sucks knowing that this isn't the final bracket.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2011, 08:41:51 PM
Post by: kcchiefdav on March 06, 2011, 09:07:45 PM
You guys are nuts. Florida has been playing really well lately, they are probably hotter than us. I want no part of them in the first weekend.
^^^^This
Post by: scottwildcat on March 06, 2011, 10:55:39 PM
my god, give it to me now.
http://everydayismarch.wordpress.com/
do.not.want you are an idiot
give that bracket back and run away
Post by: 88wildcat on March 07, 2011, 01:03:29 AM
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 07, 2011, 07:12:23 AM
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 07, 2011, 10:07:34 AM
Really like this one if we could get by 'Cuse
Post by: steve dave on March 07, 2011, 10:08:53 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Really like this one if we could get by 'Cuse
YES! :bracketmouse:
Post by: steve dave on March 07, 2011, 10:10:28 AM
Post by: CNS on March 07, 2011, 10:11:35 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Really like this one if we could get by 'Cuse
Would love this one.
Also, MU wouldn't make it out of the first round. Even if they did, OSU(the real one) would kill them.
Post by: steve dave on March 07, 2011, 10:12:48 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Really like this one if we could get by 'Cuse
Would love this one.
Also, MU wouldn't make it out of the first round. Even if they did, OSU(the real one) would kill them.
weird, he has missouri as first four out but still in
Post by: mcmwcat on March 07, 2011, 10:13:30 AM
Post by: EllToPay on March 07, 2011, 10:14:32 AM
also MU out :surprised:
I imagine the First Four out is Missouri St.
Post by: steve dave on March 07, 2011, 10:15:13 AM
also MU out :surprised:
I imagine the First Four out is Missouri St.
makes more sense
Post by: kso_FAN on March 07, 2011, 10:20:59 AM
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Post by: CNS on March 07, 2011, 10:24:08 AM
Post by: KITNfury on March 07, 2011, 10:25:44 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 07, 2011, 10:27:01 AM
we should trade places with UConn.
This.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 07, 2011, 10:35:30 AM
Nice sig _FAN. You got that in a high enough rez to use as wallpaper?
http://bit.ly/eF42sm
Post by: AbeFroman on March 07, 2011, 11:18:58 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Really like this one if we could get by 'Cuse
ku would lose to utah state in the 2nd round
Post by: KITNfury on March 07, 2011, 11:19:09 AM
Thanks bro, you're the best.Nice sig _FAN. You got that in a high enough rez to use as wallpaper?
http://bit.ly/eF42sm
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 07, 2011, 12:13:54 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Really like this one if we could get by 'Cuse
Yeah, but the zone makes me :ohno:
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 07, 2011, 02:09:08 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Really like this one if we could get by 'Cuse
Agreed. Would love, love, LOVE to play BYU without Davies to get into the Elite Eight.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 07, 2011, 02:11:47 PM
Post by: mcmwcat on March 07, 2011, 02:22:07 PM
Is it pretty "for sure" that we'll be in the western region? Most brackets I see have us there, but I thought for a 6 seed the region was more arbitrary (after giving locales to 1 seeds and such). Looking at plane tickets.
no
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 07, 2011, 02:28:30 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 07, 2011, 05:29:52 PM
:dunno:
Post by: SuperG on March 07, 2011, 05:35:15 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke (http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke)
:dunno:
Really... REALLY... want to see the Catz in Denver. :pray:
Post by: PowercatPat on March 07, 2011, 07:38:28 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke (http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke)
:dunno:
Really... REALLY... want to see the Catz in Denver. :pray:
This. And we would get the easiest 3 seed - BYU.
Post by: scottwildcat on March 07, 2011, 08:24:14 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke (http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke)
:dunno:
:bracketmouse:
Post by: doom on March 08, 2011, 09:48:00 AM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke (http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke)
:dunno:
:bracketmouse:
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Post by: dmartin on March 08, 2011, 10:00:40 AM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke (http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke)
:dunno:
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it's like their moonwalking.....
Post by: doom on March 08, 2011, 10:26:26 AM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke (http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke)
:dunno:
:bracketmouse::bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse:
it's like their moonwalking.....
they are! into the FF!
Post by: Joker on March 08, 2011, 11:19:58 AM
we should trade places with UConn.
This.
Maybe DePaul can help us out today. Not very likely, though.
Post by: Pett on March 08, 2011, 11:48:28 AM
Take off little mouse! :bracketmouse:
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 08, 2011, 12:07:52 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Take off little mouse! :bracketmouse:
Still haven't decided if I would rather play 1 of the last teams to get in from one of the BCS conferences or if I'd rather play a midmajor in the 1st round :dunno: (assuming we are on the 5 or 6 line somewhere)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 09, 2011, 11:42:56 AM
Post by: 1/64th on March 09, 2011, 11:47:11 AM
Lunardi now has us as a 5 seed: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology Not sure how I feel about playing St John's, they seem to show up to big games.
The 5/12 matchup really scares the crap out of me. Seems like 12 seeds are always kicking 5 seed asses every year.
Post by: PoetWarrior on March 09, 2011, 11:50:41 AM
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 09, 2011, 11:57:33 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 09, 2011, 12:00:05 PM
Lunardi now has us as a 5 seed: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology Not sure how I feel about playing St John's, they seem to show up to big games.
the ones ive seen lately have all matched us up with a Big East team 2nd rd. Pick your poison.
Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2011, 12:01:51 PM
Post by: kstate4life on March 09, 2011, 12:02:40 PM
Lunardi now has us as a 5 seed: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology Not sure how I feel about playing St John's, they seem to show up to big games.
the ones ive seen lately have all matched us up with a Big East team 2nd rd. Pick your poison.
This bracket SUX!! Ohio State, Notre Dame, St Johns, Florida... no thank you! Rather be a 10 seed in a different region.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 09, 2011, 12:22:56 PM
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Post by: wabash909 on March 09, 2011, 12:24:52 PM
Looking better and better to get on the 4 line... :bracketmouse:
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:emawkid:
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 10, 2011, 08:38:05 AM
Do Not Want....Ohio St.
:barf:
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 10, 2011, 08:44:55 AM
Post by: CNS on March 10, 2011, 08:46:42 AM
Looking better and better to get on the 4 line... :bracketmouse:
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Agreed. Win another game or two(especially two given that the second one will prob be KU again) and we probably jump into the middle of the 4's.
:bracketmouse:
Post by: kso_FAN on March 10, 2011, 10:41:18 AM
Post by: CNS on March 10, 2011, 10:45:23 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Best yet. Would blow up Kentucky and ND, imo.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 10, 2011, 10:46:05 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Best yet. Would blow up Kentucky and ND, imo.
Have no idea about ND. They kind of scare me.
Post by: Pett on March 10, 2011, 05:12:43 PM
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 10, 2011, 05:13:40 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 10, 2011, 05:14:07 PM
So what do you guys think? 6 or 7 seed? :dunno:
Bottom 6th seed IMO.
Post by: sunny_cat on March 10, 2011, 05:14:42 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 10, 2011, 05:16:30 PM
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 10, 2011, 05:19:23 PM
6th seed would ensure we wouldn't have to play a 1 seed until the Elite 8. If we made the Elite 8 I would be all smiles and wouldn't care who the eff we played.
6th seed in the west against the 3...oh say BYU maybe :pray:
Post by: kso_FAN on March 10, 2011, 05:20:44 PM
Post by: sys on March 10, 2011, 06:16:52 PM
I can partially forget todays game if I see us on a 6 line sunday evening. Partially.
don't want a 6 (or a 5, but that now seems unlikely) that has to play a play-in winner.
Post by: sys on March 10, 2011, 09:48:56 PM
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with wvirginia, gtown & ucla losing, i'd think kstate will retain a six, even if some current 8 or 9 continues winning tomorrow & sat.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2011, 07:53:15 AM
Using Lunardi, a 6 seed looks pretty safe. sys' point about other 6-ish seeds losing helps us.
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Post by: steve dave on March 11, 2011, 07:54:23 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
TAKE! RUN! :bracketmouse:
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 11, 2011, 09:10:00 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
TAKE! RUN! :bracketmouse:
I think we all owe CU a big thank you :D
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2011, 09:52:04 AM
Post by: PowercatPat on March 11, 2011, 10:01:24 AM
Post by: _33 on March 11, 2011, 10:04:48 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
TAKE! RUN! :bracketmouse:
I would much rather have WVU's spot in that bracket. Pitt, BYU, and UF as the 1,2,3 would be great.
Post by: EllToPay on March 11, 2011, 01:50:53 PM
Post by: Dub on March 11, 2011, 02:07:51 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
TAKE! RUN! :bracketmouse:
I would much rather have WVU's spot in that bracket. Pitt, BYU, and UF as the 1,2,3 would be great.
Is this talking about the most current one or the one from earlier today (its updated twice today) I like the first March 11 bracket MUCH more than the second.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 11, 2011, 04:00:52 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
TAKE! RUN! :bracketmouse:
I would much rather have WVU's spot in that bracket. Pitt, BYU, and UF as the 1,2,3 would be great.
Is this talking about the most current one or the one from earlier today (its updated twice today) I like the first March 11 bracket MUCH more than the second.
Amen. DO NOT WANT Syracuse.
Post by: sys on March 11, 2011, 04:53:51 PM
Post by: sys on March 11, 2011, 05:46:51 PM
don't want usc, if they make it in. go azcats.
lol.
Quote
Source told FOXSports.com USC has suspended Kevin O'neill for PAC-10 tourney. Bob Cantu will take over.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2011, 11:03:31 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 12, 2011, 11:09:14 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/NCAA-tournament-bracket-projections-2011
not sure what i think about Louisville. and no way Texas is a 4
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 12, 2011, 11:11:03 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/NCAA-tournament-bracket-projections-2011:bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse:
Post by: _33 on March 12, 2011, 11:15:35 AM
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 12, 2011, 11:23:28 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/NCAA-tournament-bracket-projections-2011
God that would be awesome, just find someone to take Siva out.
Post by: wetwillie on March 12, 2011, 11:39:14 AM
Kemba in the second round :runaway:
Post by: Dub on March 12, 2011, 12:30:14 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Kemba in the second round :runaway:
Other than that, :bracketmouse:
Would take.
Post by: wiley on March 12, 2011, 02:44:50 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Kemba in the second round :runaway:
Motivated pissed off Curtis Kelly though :ck:
Post by: catzacker on March 12, 2011, 04:35:49 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Kemba in the second round :runaway:
they don't have two kemba's, so devon should be fine..........
Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2011, 05:17:25 PM
Post by: sys on March 12, 2011, 06:27:38 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2011, 06:28:56 PM
could care less who the 3 seed is. all 3s are very good, but vulnerable. just want a soft 11 seed. and not a play in team.
Agreed. I don't really want the play in team either, one of those will win, maybe both.
Post by: sys on March 12, 2011, 06:47:10 PM
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10 Marquette
10 Illinois
10 Gonzaga
10 Michigan
11 Butler
11 Michigan State
11 Richmond
11 Georgia
12 Colorado
12 Memphis
12 St. Mary's
12 Clemson
12 Virginia Tech
12 Alabama
from fan's list of possibles, i like: richmond, georgia, st mary's & va tech.. haven't seen memphis enough to opine, but i think that'd be decent too. especially would not like: marquette, michigan state & clemson.
Post by: catzacker on March 12, 2011, 07:26:47 PM
Quote10 Marquette
10 Illinois
10 Gonzaga
10 Michigan
11 Butler
11 Michigan State
11 Richmond
11 Georgia
12 Colorado
12 Memphis
12 St. Mary's
12 Clemson
12 Virginia Tech
12 Alabama
from fan's list of possibles, i like: richmond, georgia, st mary's & va tech.. haven't seen memphis enough to opine, but i think that'd be decent too. especially would not like: marquette, michigan state & clemson.
i'd love a shot as wesley.
Post by: Andy on March 12, 2011, 08:19:58 PM
I don't want to play any really hard teams. Any way we can play just easy teams until at least the Final 4?
like kansas '08 in bill self's only final 4?
Post by: Pete on March 12, 2011, 08:25:53 PM
I don't want to play any really hard teams. Any way we can play just easy teams until at least the Final 4?
like kansas '08 in bill self's only final 4?
YES! This is what I want.
Post by: AppleJack on March 13, 2011, 08:04:16 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Post by: catzacker on March 13, 2011, 09:24:42 AM
:dunno:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
do not want mich state. hoping for richmond.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 13, 2011, 10:16:14 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 13, 2011, 10:25:16 AM
It is interesting to think if the field was expanded to 68 for the last 5 years, we may be playing in our 5th straight tournament, or 4 out of 5.
Post by: kcchiefdav on March 13, 2011, 12:04:13 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 13, 2011, 12:42:59 PM
The Newest Jerry Palm Bracket...DO NOT WANT!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Why does Jerry Palm hate Kansas State? :confused:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 13, 2011, 12:57:22 PM
:dunno:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
I think I'd drive to Denver to see that.
*Edit: Also, KU had better hope they don't have to play Utah State in the second round.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 13, 2011, 01:07:37 PM
:emawkid:
Post by: pike on March 13, 2011, 01:10:09 PM
Let's go Cats! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzBAqzGWM3A&feature=related):bball:
:emawkid:
Post by: sys on March 13, 2011, 02:06:02 PM
KU had better hope they don't have to play Utah State in the second round.
i'd be happy with usu as kstate's 11. i can't imagine how happy ku should be to get them as an 8/9.
Post by: PowercatPat on March 13, 2011, 02:12:32 PM
The Newest Jerry Palm Bracket...DO NOT WANT!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
This guy's seeding is a joke. SDSU as a 1 seed is just one example.
Post by: sys on March 13, 2011, 02:16:56 PM
SDSU as a 1 seed is just one example.
all these bracket people seem to want to shove someone else other than duke into the last 1 seed. it has to be duke, imo. gmafb with this notre dame crap.
Post by: pike on March 13, 2011, 02:28:01 PM
http://jeffgoodman.yardbarker.com/blog/jeffgoodman/my_projected_68_team_field/4377982
Post by: sys on March 13, 2011, 02:28:34 PM
all these bracket people seem to want to shove someone else other than duke into the last 1 seed. it has to be duke, imo. gmafb with this notre dame crap.
looking at the locations, i guess i understand now. three 2 locations are in charlotte & dc. all of the 1s are a long ways away.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 13, 2011, 02:43:22 PM
KU had better hope they don't have to play Utah State in the second round.
i'd be happy with usu as kstate's 11. i can't imagine how happy ku should be to get them as an 8/9.
KU should have no trouble beating any 8/9 seed. USU is the one they are most likely to overlook, and Bill Self's teams have been very prone to doing just that.
Post by: wetwillie on March 13, 2011, 02:45:17 PM
Post by: Pett on March 13, 2011, 03:12:46 PM
Post by: pike on March 13, 2011, 03:55:00 PM
Post by: CNS on March 13, 2011, 03:57:19 PM
Lunardi clown has us as a 6 vs the Izzos. BYU and Duke in our bracket too :horrorsurprise:.
Gottlieb: "KSU is a team I would not want as a 6 seed in my bracket"
Post by: kso_FAN on March 13, 2011, 04:27:33 PM
Post by: Dub on March 13, 2011, 04:34:41 PM
Lunardi clown has us as a 6 vs the Izzos. BYU and Duke in our bracket too :horrorsurprise:.
Gottlieb: "KSU is a team I would not want as a 6 seed in my bracket"
I don't mind that bracket besides Duke, but they might have a shot at a 1 seed. Would love BYU in our bracket. Of course, in 30 minutes everything is going to be different.
Post by: sys on March 13, 2011, 04:38:37 PM
Just seeing the final brackets coming in I'd say its about 55% 6 seed, 45% 7 seed for the Cats. Don't be surprise if we don't get a 7 seed.
man, a 7 seed would be crushing.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 13, 2011, 04:39:41 PM
How the eff does Michigan State make the tourney?
Post by: pike on March 13, 2011, 04:39:55 PM
Post by: catzacker on March 13, 2011, 05:00:09 PM
bracketology 101 has us as a 6 vs. Michigan State in f'ing chicago, the 3 is Louisville. :flush:
Post by: SwiftCat on March 13, 2011, 05:11:09 PM
Post by: nicname on March 13, 2011, 05:19:12 PM
Post by: nicname on March 13, 2011, 05:20:41 PM
Post by: nicname on March 13, 2011, 05:22:48 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 13, 2011, 05:23:21 PM
Post by: SwiftCat on March 13, 2011, 05:24:18 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 13, 2011, 05:25:21 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on March 13, 2011, 05:28:38 PM
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 13, 2011, 05:31:42 PM
I don't want Mich St. Izzo is you know...pretty good in the tournament.
We're gonna get em. rough ridin' horseshit. :bang:
Post by: EMAWzified on March 13, 2011, 05:33:05 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 13, 2011, 05:34:08 PM
Post by: nicname on March 13, 2011, 05:34:18 PM
Post by: nicname on March 13, 2011, 05:35:20 PM
Post by: nicname on March 13, 2011, 05:36:09 PM
nice
thought we'd lost it.
Post by: EMAWzified on March 13, 2011, 05:36:53 PM
Post by: doom on March 13, 2011, 05:37:05 PM
Post by: nicname on March 13, 2011, 05:37:25 PM
Post by: nicname on March 13, 2011, 05:38:09 PM
Post by: nicname on March 13, 2011, 05:39:02 PM
Post by: doom on March 13, 2011, 05:40:07 PM
Also, CU not making it is a joke. they got screwed
:pbj:
I know it's crap, but yessss!
Post by: steve dave on March 13, 2011, 05:42:10 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 13, 2011, 05:45:49 PM
Post by: CNS on March 13, 2011, 05:47:28 PM
mumped.
Post by: CNS on March 13, 2011, 05:50:51 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 13, 2011, 05:51:03 PM
Quote
KUTheShiver Matt Scott
K-State is the 19th ranked team in the AP poll - Utah State is 23 - Coaches poll - Utah State is 17 & KSU is 23 - it's the 12 vs 5 game
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 13, 2011, 05:54:19 PM
dumbstick obsessing over as as usual but makes a great point about how mumped we areQuoteKUTheShiver Matt Scott
K-State is the 19th ranked team in the AP poll - Utah State is 23 - Coaches poll - Utah State is 17 & KSU is 23 - it's the 12 vs 5 game
jfc, what a dipshit.
Post by: PowercatPat on March 13, 2011, 06:09:14 PM
Post by: sys on March 13, 2011, 06:12:20 PM
Post by: gokatgo on March 13, 2011, 06:41:21 PM
How can UConn and Cincy play in the 2nd round? I thought teams from the same conference couldn't play until the Sweet 16.
11 teams, waddaya gonna do
Post by: sys on March 13, 2011, 07:17:41 PM
11 teams, waddaya gonna do
put 1 in 11 of the 16 4 team groupings rather than doubling 2 together.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 16, 2012, 10:59:48 AM
#7 seed.
Post by: scottwildcat on April 16, 2012, 11:22:33 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
#7 seed.
do.not.want
Post by: PowercatPat on April 16, 2012, 07:33:14 PM
:crossfingers:
Post by: joda on April 17, 2012, 01:24:28 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
#7 seed.
do.not.want
With the announcement that Angel will be back, if we only get a 7 seed next year oscar has failed and failed bad.
Post by: PowercatPat on August 14, 2012, 02:43:40 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on August 14, 2012, 02:51:30 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology/_/year/2013
do.not.want
Post by: steve dave on August 14, 2012, 02:55:40 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology/_/year/2013
WANT! :lick:
Post by: LickNeckey on August 14, 2012, 03:07:17 PM
GoEPAW
Post by: Saulbadguy on August 14, 2012, 03:14:05 PM
Post by: AbeFroman on August 14, 2012, 03:23:19 PM
Post by: Winters on August 14, 2012, 04:42:19 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 14, 2012, 08:55:21 PM
Post by: Gooch on August 14, 2012, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: some chic with battered wife syndrome
I feel like Frank mentally destroyed our fanbase over here at goEMAW. We're all hanging on to his teet. Acting like he's the only one who can be successful here. Guy's, be mentally free. Brucer's got this. Relax, it's August. :dance: <----------- (Us in March)
Post by: pissclams on August 14, 2012, 09:27:01 PM
I feel like Frank mentally destroyed our fanbase over here at goEMAW. We're all hanging on to his teet. Acting like he's the only one who can be successful here. Guy's, be mentally free. Brucer's got this. Relax, it's August. :dance: <----------- (Us in March)
parody gonna parody!
Post by: ksu101 on May 16, 2013, 03:38:59 PM
update may 15, 2013
9th seed in MidWest!! :D
Post by: scottwildcat on May 16, 2013, 04:09:26 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
update may 15, 2013
9th seed in MidWest!! :D
:lol: what am idiot. Joey Brackets not ksu101
Post by: AndrewVonLintel on May 16, 2013, 11:45:03 PM
:excited: :drool: :driving: :love: :)
Wow this is exciting!!!!
:dance:
Post by: sunny_cat on May 17, 2013, 12:08:03 AM
Does this mean we lose the first round again?
:excited: :drool: :driving: :love: :)
Wow this is exciting!!!!
:dance:
Go away
Post by: SEK_EMAW on May 17, 2013, 08:25:58 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
update may 15, 2013
9th seed in MidWest!! :D
:lol: what am idiot. Joey Brackets not ksu101
And KU at a 2. :facepalm:
Post by: scottwildcat on May 17, 2013, 08:29:47 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
update may 15, 2013
9th seed in MidWest!! :D
:lol: what am idiot. Joey Brackets not ksu101
And KU at a 2. :facepalm:
Joey has lost it. Hang it up bud and just sleep until January.
Post by: kstate4life on January 09, 2014, 11:24:50 AM
Back in it! Would take! :ksu:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 09, 2014, 11:36:15 AM
Post by: TownieCat on January 09, 2014, 11:47:01 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Back in it! Would take! :ksu:
11 is a slap in the face. :shakesfist:
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 09, 2014, 11:48:37 AM
Post by: TownieCat on January 09, 2014, 12:00:52 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on January 09, 2014, 12:03:47 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Back in it! Would take! :ksu:
Would beat Duke even in NC
Post by: cfbandyman on January 09, 2014, 12:06:01 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Back in it! Would take! :ksu:
11 is a slap in the face. :shakesfist:
KU as a 4 is also ridic
Post by: scottwildcat on January 09, 2014, 12:07:46 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Back in it! Would take! :ksu:
11 is a slap in the face. :shakesfist:
KU as a 4 is also ridic
Not really.
Post by: cfbandyman on January 09, 2014, 12:10:20 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Back in it! Would take! :ksu:
11 is a slap in the face. :shakesfist:
KU as a 4 is also ridic
Not really.
IDK, seems a little high, 4-4 against top 50, so not horrible
Post by: AbeFroman on January 09, 2014, 12:31:14 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on January 09, 2014, 12:32:26 PM
Would take 11 as long as Wisconsin isn't the 3
Would take any seed as long as we don't have to play Wisconsin.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on January 09, 2014, 01:06:55 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on January 09, 2014, 01:12:22 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Back in it! Would take! :ksu:
11 is a slap in the face. :shakesfist:
KU as a 4 is also ridic
They have the #2 RPI.
Post by: puniraptor on January 09, 2014, 01:26:52 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2014, 10:00:31 AM
If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
They did that last year
Post by: Tobias on January 10, 2014, 10:01:37 AM
If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
They did that last year
yeah, we definitely interrupted the crap out of that joke
Post by: PowercatPat on January 13, 2014, 10:54:53 AM
If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Post by: scottwildcat on January 13, 2014, 11:07:54 AM
If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
we would make it to the E8 in that bracket.
Post by: ksu101 on January 13, 2014, 11:52:17 AM
would rough ridin' take.If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Post by: MakeItRain on January 13, 2014, 01:43:56 PM
If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
we would make it to the E8 in that bracket.
Here's my obligatory post reminding you all that we have no size and no shooters. Wichita State and those athletic guards who play defense is an absolute matchup nightmare for us. We've played 2 teams this season who are interested in playing defense and they both completely embarrassed us.
Post by: scottwildcat on January 13, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
we would make it to the E8 in that bracket.
Here's my obligatory post reminding you all that we have no size and no shooters. Wichita State and those athletic guards who play defense is an absolute matchup nightmare for us. We've played 2 teams this season who are interested in playing defense and they both completely embarrassed us.
Nope, E8.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 13, 2014, 01:50:53 PM
Here's my obligatory post reminding you all that we have no size and no shooters. Wichita State and those athletic guards who play defense is an absolute matchup nightmare for us. We've played 2 teams this season who are interested in playing defense and they both completely embarrassed us.
I think if we played Georgetown again we could compete, I think this team is much better than we played that day.
I want no part of a team like KU though. KU, BU, and UT are the worst match-ups for us in this league because they have so much length. If we can win 2 games from those 6 games I'll be pretty pleased.
I haven't watched enough WSU to know, they aren't a huge team though. Their defense would be tough.
Post by: ksu101 on January 13, 2014, 03:26:16 PM
mid major thoHere's my obligatory post reminding you all that we have no size and no shooters. Wichita State and those athletic guards who play defense is an absolute matchup nightmare for us. We've played 2 teams this season who are interested in playing defense and they both completely embarrassed us.If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
we would make it to the E8 in that bracket.
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 13, 2014, 07:36:52 PM
The top 4 teams in the Big 12 should be in the 2-4 seed range like CBS has it.
6 seed may be a little high for OU. Good win vs Clonies but they don't have a signature win in the non con
Post by: TownieCat on January 16, 2014, 10:02:26 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Post by: PowercatPat on January 16, 2014, 11:23:25 AM
Up to a 9... Would rather be a 10.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
That would be the region of death.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 16, 2014, 11:29:50 AM
10 seed is where I would have us right now.
The top 4 teams in the Big 12 should be in the 2-4 seed range like CBS has it.
6 seed may be a little high for OU. Good win vs Clonies but they don't have a signature win in the non con
whoever wins the big 12 (KU) will be a 1...
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 16, 2014, 11:32:26 AM
Baylor's lack of fundamental basketball neutralizes any advantage of length. Hard to mark plays when you are never in the right spot.Here's my obligatory post reminding you all that we have no size and no shooters. Wichita State and those athletic guards who play defense is an absolute matchup nightmare for us. We've played 2 teams this season who are interested in playing defense and they both completely embarrassed us.
I think if we played Georgetown again we could compete, I think this team is much better than we played that day.
I want no part of a team like KU though. KU, BU, and UT are the worst match-ups for us in this league because they have so much length. If we can win 2 games from those 6 games I'll be pretty pleased.
I haven't watched enough WSU to know, they aren't a huge team though. Their defense would be tough.
Post by: scottwildcat on January 16, 2014, 11:51:15 AM
Up to a 9... Would rather be a 10.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
That would be the region of death.
San Diego tho :gocho:
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 16, 2014, 12:00:04 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 16, 2014, 12:03:25 PM
is there a team in that west bracket that we won't have played at least once this year?
yeah like, 12 of them, but those bottom 4 are kind of funny.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 16, 2014, 12:43:18 PM
:surprised:
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 16, 2014, 12:44:41 PM
http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/ (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/)
:surprised:
:lol: :lol: idiots
also Syracuse :sdeek:
Post by: TownieCat on January 16, 2014, 01:00:11 PM
http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/ (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/)
:surprised:
Seems legit. :thumbs:
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 16, 2014, 01:40:07 PM
http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/ (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/)
:surprised:
Pfffftt.
Post by: KITNfury on January 16, 2014, 02:22:08 PM
http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/ (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/)Would take, but we'd still lose second round to Oregon
:surprised:
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 16, 2014, 02:26:39 PM
http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/ (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/)any bracket that doesn't include us in the same region as Wisconsin is irrelevant.
:surprised:
Post by: PowercatPat on January 21, 2014, 03:26:11 PM
6 seed. Still an 8 seed in CBS' bracket.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on January 21, 2014, 04:55:48 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 21, 2014, 05:02:00 PM
http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/ (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/)
:surprised:
February 21st Bracket
Maybe it's the future :crossfingers: :dunno:
Post by: Johnny Thunderbone on January 21, 2014, 05:10:58 PM
http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/ (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/)
:surprised:
February 21st Bracket
Maybe it's the future :crossfingers: :dunno:
Bookmark this post and we'll see in a month. :crossfingers:
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 21, 2014, 09:08:47 PM
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/21/bracketology-strong-profile-pushes-kansas-to-top-line/
6 seed. Still an 8 seed in CBS' bracket.
With our loss tonight, I would have us as a 7 seed. OU is in that 6-7 seed range KU a 2, Okst a 3 and Isu a 3-4 seed.
Texas now at 4-2 is clearly in right now. Them and Baylor prob in the 9 seed range
Post by: OKclone on January 21, 2014, 09:42:44 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 21, 2014, 09:43:42 PM
Post by: OKclone on January 21, 2014, 09:44:59 PM
Our seed is totally dependent on Wisconsin. If they get the 1 seed, we get the 8-9, but if they fall to a 2 then we're a lock for a 7 seed.
I think by the time everything is over with Wisconsin will be a 3-4 seed. They aren't as good as everyone thinks.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 21, 2014, 09:47:10 PM
Neither are you.Our seed is totally dependent on Wisconsin. If they get the 1 seed, we get the 8-9, but if they fall to a 2 then we're a lock for a 7 seed.
I think by the time everything is over with Wisconsin will be a 3-4 seed. They aren't as good as everyone thinks.
Post by: OKclone on January 21, 2014, 09:49:11 PM
Neither are you.Our seed is totally dependent on Wisconsin. If they get the 1 seed, we get the 8-9, but if they fall to a 2 then we're a lock for a 7 seed.
I think by the time everything is over with Wisconsin will be a 3-4 seed. They aren't as good as everyone thinks.
Good enough to beat lowly K-state.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 21, 2014, 09:51:03 PM
Post by: OKclone on January 21, 2014, 10:36:29 PM
Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
No that should be easy :driving:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 21, 2014, 10:39:50 PM
Try a conference championship and then get back to me.Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
No that should be easy :driving:
Post by: OKclone on January 21, 2014, 10:42:32 PM
Try a conference championship and then get back to me.Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
No that should be easy :driving:
We've done it, thanks. And not a shared one either...
Post by: Winters on January 21, 2014, 11:19:56 PM
I was in kindergarten or something when that happened :lol:Try a conference championship and then get back to me.Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
No that should be easy :driving:
We've done it, thanks. And not a shared one either...
Post by: TownieCat on January 22, 2014, 08:33:21 AM
Big 12 > any other conference. Pretty much all of our teams minus TTech and TCU are good enough to beat anyone in the league. Tech even beat Baylor, but now again who hasn't this year?
The thought of getting 70% of the league in the tourney is insane when you think about it. The BE got 11/16 in 2011, but that's still only 68.75%!
BIG 12 HOOPS, YOU GUYS! :Woohoo:
Post by: OKclone on January 22, 2014, 03:13:58 PM
I was in kindergarten or something when that happened :lol:Try a conference championship and then get back to me.Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
No that should be easy :driving:
We've done it, thanks. And not a shared one either...
And it's only happened once for you :ROFL:
Post by: Spracne on January 22, 2014, 03:17:45 PM
Post by: Winters on January 22, 2014, 03:18:26 PM
Yep, really sucks that the 'cats have a conference title in the past year. You got me, again.I was in kindergarten or something when that happened :lol:Try a conference championship and then get back to me.Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
No that should be easy :driving:
We've done it, thanks. And not a shared one either...
And it's only happened once for you :ROFL:
Post by: OKclone on January 22, 2014, 03:54:39 PM
Yep, really sucks that the 'cats have a conference title in the past year. You got me, again.I was in kindergarten or something when that happened :lol:Try a conference championship and then get back to me.Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
No that should be easy :driving:
We've done it, thanks. And not a shared one either...
And it's only happened once for you :ROFL:
You forgot the word "shared" in front of conference title.
Post by: ksufan44 on January 22, 2014, 03:58:53 PM
Post by: OKclone on January 22, 2014, 04:17:59 PM
How many ships has Hoiball gotten you? Cause Bruceketball is 1 for 1 so far.
He also had all of Franks players, lets see what happens in a couple years :Rusty:
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 22, 2014, 04:51:02 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on January 22, 2014, 05:29:01 PM
Post by: OKclone on January 22, 2014, 06:09:30 PM
Timclone just timming the crap out of this thread. Only a true tim would show up and talk crap with his program on a three game losing streak and rumors swirling that his coach hates the school and wants to leave immediately and is ashamed to have played there. Sad that he probably can't leave now that they're terrible. Gotta strike while that iron is luke warm. The bloom is off the hoi.
:'bye cruel world: :flush: :ROFL:
Post by: Winters on January 22, 2014, 06:23:36 PM
Timclone just timming the crap out of this thread. Only a true tim would show up and talk crap with his program on a three game losing streak and rumors swirling that his coach hates the school and wants to leave immediately and is ashamed to have played there. Sad that he probably can't leave now that they're terrible. Gotta strike while that iron is luke warm. The bloom is off the hoi.I bet this guy has never even attended ISU. The similarities are endless :surprised:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 22, 2014, 06:25:41 PM
They're both up to 6 figures......On the penny slots.Timclone just timming the crap out of this thread. Only a true tim would show up and talk crap with his program on a three game losing streak and rumors swirling that his coach hates the school and wants to leave immediately and is ashamed to have played there. Sad that he probably can't leave now that they're terrible. Gotta strike while that iron is luke warm. The bloom is off the hoi.I bet this guy has never even attended ISU. The similarities are endless :surprised:
Post by: OKclone on January 22, 2014, 10:24:21 PM
Graduated a while ago actually. :whistle1:Timclone just timming the crap out of this thread. Only a true tim would show up and talk crap with his program on a three game losing streak and rumors swirling that his coach hates the school and wants to leave immediately and is ashamed to have played there. Sad that he probably can't leave now that they're terrible. Gotta strike while that iron is luke warm. The bloom is off the hoi.I bet this guy has never even attended ISU. The similarities are endless :surprised:
Post by: Prince McJunkins on January 23, 2014, 10:45:11 AM
Do not want.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 23, 2014, 10:56:59 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Do not want.
nope, don't want
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 23, 2014, 11:10:52 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 23, 2014, 11:12:57 AM
Man ku got up to that 1 line in a friggin' hurryThe new Johnny Manziel is Joel Embiid. Of course they did!
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on January 23, 2014, 11:16:31 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Do not want.
nope, don't want
I'd take the biggest loan allowed by my bank and put it all on UCONN -whatever
Post by: kso_FAN on January 23, 2014, 11:23:20 AM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 23, 2014, 11:25:35 AM
Syracuse would be a terrible match-up. I'm glad this is just some dumb January bracket.
id probably wire all of their players money via western union that week. wed be fine.
Post by: joda on January 23, 2014, 11:26:16 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Do not want.
nope, don't want
Oh man, that south would get so much play in the local media. KU the 1 with Wichita St the 2. Creighton in there, Wichita St. 1st game with the team that opened up the season knocking off KState, then a possible 2nd round rematch with Gonzaga
:runaway:
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 23, 2014, 11:31:15 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Do not want.
nope, don't want
Oh man, that south would get so much play in the local media. KU the 1 with Wichita St the 2. Creighton in there, Wichita St. 1st game with the team that opened up the season knocking off KState, then a possible 2nd round rematch with Gonzaga
:runaway:
I'd love to be a 7/10 going against Wichita in round 2 (3, whatever it is). If we beat them we'd be like "Yeah punk, you dorks are so small time" and if they beat us we'd be like "Meh, football school"
Post by: joda on January 23, 2014, 11:40:49 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Do not want.
nope, don't want
Oh man, that south would get so much play in the local media. KU the 1 with Wichita St the 2. Creighton in there, Wichita St. 1st game with the team that opened up the season knocking off KState, then a possible 2nd round rematch with Gonzaga
:runaway:
I'd love to be a 7/10 going against Wichita in round 2 (3, whatever it is). If we beat them we'd be like "Yeah punk, you dorks are so small time" and if they beat us we'd be like "Meh, football school"
I want off the 8/9 line bad this year. All of the current 1's would be in us balls deep halfway through the first half, we might stand a chance against some of the 2s
Post by: #LIFE on January 23, 2014, 11:56:20 AM
Post by: schreds21 on January 23, 2014, 12:43:57 PM
What makes any of you think we would even make it out of the first round to see one's or two's. #oscarhttp://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Do not want.
nope, don't want
Oh man, that south would get so much play in the local media. KU the 1 with Wichita St the 2. Creighton in there, Wichita St. 1st game with the team that opened up the season knocking off KState, then a possible 2nd round rematch with Gonzaga
:runaway:
I'd love to be a 7/10 going against Wichita in round 2 (3, whatever it is). If we beat them we'd be like "Yeah punk, you dorks are so small time" and if they beat us we'd be like "Meh, football school"
I want off the 8/9 line bad this year. All of the current 1's would be in us balls deep halfway through the first half, we might stand a chance against some of the 2s
Post by: pissclams on January 23, 2014, 12:48:35 PM
there is a lot of math and a lot of magic, which one do you believe in? sigmund freud or lance burton? the true choice is up to you but just remember that what you post stays on the internet forever. wabash cats.
Post by: Unruly on January 23, 2014, 12:56:05 PM
Pac-12 6
Big Ten 6
ACC 6
:sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:
Post by: PowercatPat on January 23, 2014, 03:15:14 PM
Post by: Spracne on January 23, 2014, 03:28:42 PM
wichita state (i hate them) goes undefeay, needs to be a 1 seed. otherwise just throw the whole system on trial because it will be exposed as a fraud and also as a joke to all who pay heed and enter it. the magic they use to put these "brackets" (and i use that "term" loosely) is a joke and should be investigated by the federal government at a senate judiciary hearing. one team is undefeated. one team was bent over and embarrassed on national and in some cases international (depending on your broadcast provider plan) television. who can say the right thing for the committee? no one but the committee. honestly they don't need JOE LUNARDI (http://www.sju.edu/int/academics/pls/images/Joe%20Picture.JPG) to pull these mock brackets up each week trying to sway minds in the court of public opinion. do they? if you answered yes, then explain how they could need it.
there is a lot of math and a lot of magic, which one do you believe in? sigmund freud or lance burton? the true choice is up to you but just remember that what you post stays on the internet forever. wabash cats.
The Druids used to think that a solar eclipse was magic. Throughout history, communities cloaked in ignorance have ascribed "magic" to things that, as it turns it, they just didn't understand. Is that what's going on here?
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 23, 2014, 04:17:41 PM
Syracuse would be a terrible match-up. I'm glad this is just some dumb January bracket.
I've said it on here the last 2 years, but Lundardi (especially in late Jan-mid Feb) really isn't that accurate.
He has Cal as a 8 seed. They are 4-2 and have 5 losses overall. Their SOS is 88 and they have 2 top 50 wins (Oregon and a Stanford who he barely has in). He has Ucla as a 7 seed. They are 3-2 and have 4 losses overall. Their SOS is 24 but their only quality win is at Colorado. And Texas is an 8 seed. They are 4-2 with 4 losses, and their SOS is 54 and their 2 top 50 wins are Isu and Kstate.
We are 4-2 and our SOS is 32, and we have 4 wins in the top 35. And he has us below all 3 of those teams :dunno:
Ohio st getting a 6 seed is also pretty generous right now. They are 15-4 and have no significant wins (only top 50 win is N Dakota) and the Buckeyes are 2-4 right now in the Big 10.
Yes this is late Jan bracket..... and things will change numerous times over the next 6-7 weeks...... and as of today I would have us as a 7 seed with he Big 12 having 7 seeds teams in
Post by: OKclone on January 23, 2014, 04:41:04 PM
Post by: pissclams on January 23, 2014, 06:27:03 PM
wichita state (i hate them) goes undefeay, needs to be a 1 seed. otherwise just throw the whole system on trial because it will be exposed as a fraud and also as a joke to all who pay heed and enter it. the magic they use to put these "brackets" (and i use that "term" loosely) is a joke and should be investigated by the federal government at a senate judiciary hearing. one team is undefeated. one team was bent over and embarrassed on national and in some cases international (depending on your broadcast provider plan) television. who can say the right thing for the committee? no one but the committee. honestly they don't need JOE LUNARDI (http://www.sju.edu/int/academics/pls/images/Joe%20Picture.JPG) to pull these mock brackets up each week trying to sway minds in the court of public opinion. do they? if you answered yes, then explain how they could need it.
there is a lot of math and a lot of magic, which one do you believe in? sigmund freud or lance burton? the true choice is up to you but just remember that what you post stays on the internet forever. wabash cats.
The Druids used to think that a solar eclipse was magic. Throughout history, communities cloaked in ignorance have ascribed "magic" to things that, as it turns it, they just didn't understand. Is that what's going on here?
kind of. don't focus so much on the magic though- (lance burton) this isn't a who done it?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 24, 2014, 03:15:08 PM
Atleast Milwaukee flights are cheap. :flush:
Post by: Havs on January 24, 2014, 03:28:18 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Atleast Milwaukee flights are cheap. :flush:
Southwest out of Kansas City is easy.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 24, 2014, 03:29:17 PM
Yup. $130 round trip.http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Atleast Milwaukee flights are cheap. :flush:
Southwest out of Kansas City is easy.
Post by: scottwildcat on January 24, 2014, 03:57:23 PM
Yup. $130 round trip.http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Atleast Milwaukee flights are cheap. :flush:
Southwest out of Kansas City is easy.
My friend and his fiancé live in Milwaukee. I could live with it.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2014, 02:15:33 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 27, 2014, 02:22:10 PM
Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Underwood :runaway:
Post by: scottwildcat on January 27, 2014, 02:24:27 PM
Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Am I right in thinking that a school cannot play an NCAA tourney game in their own gym? (which could be completely wrong). This is in reference to SDSU being slated in Spokane as a 2 seed while San Diego is a round of 64 and 32 site.
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 27, 2014, 02:24:47 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2014, 02:27:23 PM
That bracket looked so great at first, and then I realized they have Iowa St. at the 2 seed so I lost any and all hope of it being close to accurate.
If the bracket is made based on where the author thinks a team will finish (and now where they are right now) then I'm fine with it. I don't agree with the projection for ISU, but if they go 14-4 in the league or something then they might be there.
Post by: #LIFE on January 27, 2014, 02:27:35 PM
Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.niketalk.com%2Fe%2Fe6%2F350x700px-LL-e6d95df4_154f2xk.gif&hash=bbd70aa9cc897f87e6d4d8c730ee709da3576a1f)
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2014, 02:30:51 PM
Post by: TownieCat on January 27, 2014, 02:49:14 PM
Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Am I right in thinking that a school cannot play an NCAA tourney game in their own gym? (which could be completely wrong). This is in reference to SDSU being slated in Spokane as a 2 seed while San Diego is a round of 64 and 32 site.
Correct. It's kind of interesting that SDSU is hosting this year since their arena is roughly the size of Bramlage.
Post by: scottwildcat on January 27, 2014, 02:52:26 PM
Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Am I right in thinking that a school cannot play an NCAA tourney game in their own gym? (which could be completely wrong). This is in reference to SDSU being slated in Spokane as a 2 seed while San Diego is a round of 64 and 32 site.
Correct. It's kind of interesting that SDSU is hosting this year since their arena is roughly the size of Bramlage.
Does it have to be their gym or just their city and they are considered the host?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2014, 02:57:19 PM
From my experience at first round events (Oklahoma City, Pittsburgh, KC, Omaha, etc.), they're hard as eff to fill anyways. Oklahoma City might have been the only one where I felt like the whole arena was filled (thx to K-State & KU). Kind of irrelevant.Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Am I right in thinking that a school cannot play an NCAA tourney game in their own gym? (which could be completely wrong). This is in reference to SDSU being slated in Spokane as a 2 seed while San Diego is a round of 64 and 32 site.
Correct. It's kind of interesting that SDSU is hosting this year since their arena is roughly the size of Bramlage.
Post by: OKclone on January 27, 2014, 03:49:15 PM
That bracket looked so great at first, and then I realized they have Iowa St. at the 2 seed so I lost any and all hope of it being close to accurate.
If the bracket is made based on where the author thinks a team will finish (and now where they are right now) then I'm fine with it. I don't agree with the projection for ISU, but if they go 14-4 in the league or something then they might be there.
:Crybaby:
Post by: scottwildcat on January 27, 2014, 04:59:47 PM
From my experience at first round events (Oklahoma City, Pittsburgh, KC, Omaha, etc.), they're hard as eff to fill anyways. Oklahoma City might have been the only one where I felt like the whole arena was filled (thx to K-State & KU). Kind of irrelevant.Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Am I right in thinking that a school cannot play an NCAA tourney game in their own gym? (which could be completely wrong). This is in reference to SDSU being slated in Spokane as a 2 seed while San Diego is a round of 64 and 32 site.
Correct. It's kind of interesting that SDSU is hosting this year since their arena is roughly the size of Bramlage.
Where you not in KC last year?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2014, 05:04:32 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on January 27, 2014, 05:06:54 PM
Yeah, I listed that. It was pretty filled for the K-state and KU games, but not so much for the others. Plus, KCis an the exception. It's always been a college bball town. Pitt was an effing ghost town and I could see San Diego being the same. I mean, look at the Chargers attendance. Tourney games are best in a city with interest for the sport.
Okay I was just questioning because you said OKC was the only one that felt filled
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2014, 05:09:01 PM
Yeah, I should have specified away from this area.Yeah, I listed that. It was pretty filled for the K-state and KU games, but not so much for the others. Plus, KCis an the exception. It's always been a college bball town. Pitt was an effing ghost town and I could see San Diego being the same. I mean, look at the Chargers attendance. Tourney games are best in a city with interest for the sport.
Okay I was just questioning because you said OKC was the only one that felt filled
Post by: TownieCat on January 30, 2014, 10:03:13 AM
:popcorn:
Post by: 'taterblast on January 30, 2014, 10:32:20 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
:popcorn:
if we're going to be 8/9, take that and run
Post by: #LIFE on January 30, 2014, 11:14:33 AM
Post by: PowercatPat on January 30, 2014, 11:17:10 AM
Post by: Kermit on January 30, 2014, 11:31:25 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
:popcorn:
Yes, please. We would be on a freight train to Dallas w/ Nova, Cuse and MSU. I'll take it. :bracketmouse:
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 30, 2014, 11:34:42 AM
I really want to see us get up in that 6/7 seed range. If we can get to 11-7, we will be there ( and yes Pat a 7 Ksu and 2 Wsu would be sweet)
At 10-8, could be harder to get a 7 and the 8/9 is more likely.
Post by: OKclone on January 30, 2014, 03:05:26 PM
Post by: TownieCat on January 30, 2014, 03:15:46 PM
LOL do not want to play Iowa as a #5 seed, not because they are good, but because that would suck for the state.
Have you watched a big 10 game lately? Would take, if I were a flood aggie.
Post by: PowercatPat on January 30, 2014, 03:28:06 PM
LOL do not want to play Iowa as a #5 seed, not because they are good, but because that would suck for the state.
Sounds like you're scared to play them again.
Post by: Spracne on January 30, 2014, 05:32:44 PM
Post by: hippocraticoaf on January 30, 2014, 05:40:52 PM
Anyone else kinda 'meh' about Bracketology before March? I mean, is it just about talkin' hoops teams with your buds and flexing knowledge about your divers insights into teams across the country?
Yeah kinda like BCS rankings WERE :tongue: After the top 5-10 teams I don't really care.
Post by: ydarg2012 on January 31, 2014, 08:27:30 AM
Anyone else kinda 'meh' about Bracketology before March? I mean, is it just about talkin' hoops teams with your buds and flexing knowledge about your divers insights into teams across the country?
Does anyone know what the percentage arc of accuracy there is on bracketology as the season progresses? I feel like Lunardi is like a weatherman that is only allowed to predict the weather by standing on his front porch.
Post by: TownieCat on January 31, 2014, 08:40:56 AM
Anyone else kinda 'meh' about Bracketology before March? I mean, is it just about talkin' hoops teams with your buds and flexing knowledge about your divers insights into teams across the country?
Does anyone know what the percentage arc of accuracy there is on bracketology as the season progresses? I feel like Lunardi is like a weatherman that is only allowed to predict the weather by standing on his front porch.
Bracketologies are about as relevant as polls in college basketball. They're just a way to gauge where teams are at the moment they're released. Other than their preseason brackets, I don't think guys like Lunardi, Palm, etc have ever claimed they were trying to predict where teams would end up in mid-March.
Post by: ydarg2012 on January 31, 2014, 09:26:43 AM
Post by: TownieCat on January 31, 2014, 09:40:40 AM
Makes sense. Still a nice little paycheck to solely put out brackets for a living.
Mel Kiper and Brad Edwards concur.
Post by: Spracne on January 31, 2014, 10:02:02 AM
Makes sense. Still a nice little paycheck to solely put out brackets for a living.
Mel Kiper and Brad Edwards concur.
Kiper at least sells his services to NFL teams...
Post by: scottwildcat on January 31, 2014, 10:09:30 AM
Makes sense. Still a nice little paycheck to solely put out brackets for a living.
Mel Kiper and Brad Edwards concur.
Mel Kiper does triple the work Brad Edwards and Joey Brackets do combined.
Post by: TownieCat on January 31, 2014, 10:19:37 AM
Makes sense. Still a nice little paycheck to solely put out brackets for a living.
Mel Kiper and Brad Edwards concur.
Kiper at least sells his services to NFL teams...
If he were really that great at what he does he'd be a GM, not a talking head on ESPN.
Post by: Lefty on January 31, 2014, 10:27:51 AM
:bwpopcorn: scared shitless, but a great basketball bracket
Post by: scottwildcat on January 31, 2014, 10:35:42 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
:bwpopcorn: scared shitless, but a great basketball bracket
final four if we get past New Mexico.
Post by: #LIFE on January 31, 2014, 10:59:37 AM
Post by: ydarg2012 on January 31, 2014, 11:22:11 AM
:driving: to S16, then... :curse:
That Wisconsin match up tho
Post by: OKclone on January 31, 2014, 03:14:25 PM
LOL do not want to play Iowa as a #5 seed, not because they are good, but because that would suck for the state.
Have you watched a big 10 game lately? Would take, if I were a flood aggie.
It would be easy compared to the big 12, but it would suck.
Post by: #LIFE on February 03, 2014, 09:27:23 AM
Izzo would clownsuit the crap out of oscar
Post by: PowercatPat on February 03, 2014, 09:31:21 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
Izzo would clownsuit the crap out of oscar
Would take UMass tho. They are very overrated.
Post by: pissclams on February 03, 2014, 09:37:10 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
Izzo would clownsuit the crap out of oscar
are you saying that a 2 seed would beat a 10 seed? or that some how oscar can't coach against izzo? because oscar is 8-8 against him. or was it just a shitty post?
Post by: Winters on February 03, 2014, 11:32:20 AM
8-8 :excited:http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
Izzo would clownsuit the crap out of oscar
are you saying that a 2 seed would beat a 10 seed? or that some how oscar can't coach against izzo? because oscar is 8-8 against him. or was it just a shitty post?
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 03, 2014, 03:38:10 PM
So with us falling to 5-4 and some people getting a little worried about our seeding and these next few games..... Here is a breakdown of the some of the teams around us. The seeding is how I see it as of right now, but you can at least compare the teams in and around the 7-10 range
Our 2 negative areas are our non con SOS is over 100 and we have 2 bad losses, although the loss to No.Col was without 2 key players and the committee will be aware of that. The good thing is the Big 12 is so strong, our overall SOS will continue to get better and could be top 25 by seasons end.
.
Team/Seed Record (Conf) RPI SOS 1-25 26-50 Other stat/comment
______________________________________________________________________________________________
7 UConn 17-4 (5-3) 32 75 1-0 2-3 Good win vs Fla
7 UMass 17-4 (4-3) 11 30 0-0 3-1 Good non-con SOS, 20
7 Pitt 18-4 (6-3) 18 55 0-3 1-0 No wins vs tourney teams
7 Gonzaga 19-3 (10-1) 26 105 0-0 1-1 No wins vs tourney teams
8 N Carolina 14-7(4-4) 39 18 2-3 1-0 Won at Mich St, Beat UK,Lville
8 K-State 15-7(5-4) 41 44 2-3 2-0 4 wins vs top 35
8 N Mexico 17-4(8-1) 33 71 1-2 0-0 Beat Cincy, Good non SOS 17
8 VCU 18-4(6-1) 28 91 1-0 0-2 Only solid win is at Virg
9 Minn 14-7(4-5) 35 5 2-3 1-1 Top 5 SOS
9 G Wash 17-4(5-2) 31 101 1-0 1-1 Weak non-con SOS 159, Beat Creighton
9 Cal 15-7(6-3) 40 48 1-3 2-0 Big win over AZ
9 Ohio St 17-5(4-5) 19 13 1-1 0-2 Good SOS, but Wisc only decent win
10 Colorado 16-6(5-4) 25 7 1-3 1-1 Only 2-3 since losing leading scorer for season
10 Xavier 15-6(5-3) 48 57 1-1 1-3
10 Prov 16-6(6-3) 37 62 1-3 1-0
10 Tenn 13-7(5-3) 42 12 1-3 1-1
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 04, 2014, 08:52:12 AM
Post by: OKclone on February 04, 2014, 12:40:08 PM
But Baylor having a higher seed than us? I don't see that happening.
With Scott Drew as their coach? nah.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 04, 2014, 02:39:22 PM
But Baylor having a higher seed than us? I don't see that happening.
For those of you who don't know..... Jerry Palm is way more of an idiot that Joey Brackets. He had Ohio St as an 11 seed and they won at Wiscy (a team that has lost 5 of 6) and he moved them up 5 spots to a 6 seed. Seriously??
And then with Baylor being a 9 seed when they are 2-6 in conf. I know the conf season is not over yet, but it is hard to make the dance when you are 2 games below .500 and I think I read there has only been 1 team to ever be 4 games under and sneak in. Baylor has an uphill climb to get to 8-10, and even then there is no guarantee that record gets them in.
Post by: kstate4life on February 06, 2014, 10:59:08 AM
1st round exit...
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 06, 2014, 11:00:23 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketologytechnically 2nd round. :gocho:
1st round exit...
Post by: kstate4life on February 06, 2014, 11:04:08 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketologytechnically 2nd round. :gocho:
1st round exit...
touche'
Post by: TownieCat on February 06, 2014, 11:14:16 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
1st round exit...
But they only beat LBSU by 6... :gocho:
Post by: 'taterblast on February 06, 2014, 11:15:53 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
1st round exit...
But they only beat LBSU by 6... :gocho:
GWU beat VCU didn't they?
Post by: TownieCat on February 06, 2014, 11:18:56 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
1st round exit...
But they only beat LBSU by 6... :gocho:
GWU beat VCU didn't they?
By 10! :emawkid:
Post by: kstate4life on February 06, 2014, 11:30:40 AM
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 06, 2014, 11:39:35 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 06, 2014, 11:41:43 AM
Out of complete ignorance. How good is Florida this year? :dunno:
Really good.
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 06, 2014, 11:48:11 AM
Post by: TownieCat on February 06, 2014, 11:53:48 AM
say we beat UT and Baylor. What will it take for us to move all the way up to a 5 or 6 seed? That is the only way I see us making it passed the first two games.
Get to 11-7 and win a game in KC.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 06, 2014, 12:01:13 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 06, 2014, 12:03:24 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 06, 2014, 12:05:03 PM
Do you think that will lessen the pressure off of oscar?
What pressure?
Right now there is no real pressure on oscar. We'd have to lose the rest of our games for him to feel pressure this season.
Post by: sunny_cat on February 06, 2014, 12:08:52 PM
Do you think that will lessen the pressure off of oscar?
What pressure?
Right now there is no real pressure on oscar. We'd have to lose the rest of our games for him to feel pressure this season.
Yeah. Lots of people expected this to be an NIT team.
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 06, 2014, 12:09:11 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 06, 2014, 12:14:20 PM
I guess I meant from the fan base. I would venture to say his seat is pretty chilly for at least a few more years due to his hardware from last year.
Yeah, that is mixed. I didn't blame the fans for being upset when he was hired. Nor do I blame them for being upset for last year's first round NCAA loss (even with the conference title). There was plenty of disappointment in both situations. But I think most fans recognize that oscar has done some nice things both last year and this year. Like any other coach if he continues to win to the expected level here, which is really make the tournament and have a run once in a while, he'll be fine.
Post by: Trogdor on February 06, 2014, 01:42:18 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 06, 2014, 03:55:35 PM
say we beat UT and Baylor. What will it take for us to move all the way up to a 5 or 6 seed? That is the only way I see us making it passed the first two games.
If K-State can get to 11-7, we will be off of the 8/9 seed line and be in the 6/7 seed mix. Gonna be pretty tough right now to get all the way up to a 5 seed. 6 and 7 seed are pretty similar... just depends on who the matchup/draw is. Getting a 6/7, I think it is a good accomplishment for this team in the reg season
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 06, 2014, 04:03:52 PM
Post by: Winters on February 06, 2014, 04:20:30 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketologycrap, yes, orlando! :party:
1st round exit...
Post by: PowercatPat on February 06, 2014, 04:26:49 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 06, 2014, 04:28:21 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on February 06, 2014, 06:37:02 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 06, 2014, 07:31:33 PM
I am surprised they don't have us matched up with Wichita State.
IF Wich st got the 1 and us the 8, there is a decent shot we would be in St Louis with them. One deciding factor would be if a Big 12 team would be a 4/5 seed and put into that region first (and they are always gonna put the 4/5 seeds into each regions first)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 06, 2014, 08:02:10 PM
I guess I meant from the fan base. I would venture to say his seat is pretty chilly for at least a few more years due to his hardware from last year.
Your second sentence makes no sense to me. Also he doesn't have a hot seat or cold, as your analogy states, from the fans. The fans are apathetic, not angry.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 09, 2014, 07:33:32 PM
Here are my current projections of 6-9 seeds entering Monday. You can compare these teams with us. I think Ksu is in the 7-8 seed
area right now. FWIW, my 5 seeds are Texas, Iowa, Lville and Ucla. 10 seeds - SMU Cal Minn Colorado
.
Team/Seed Record (Conf) RPI SOS 1-25 26-50 Other stat/comment
______________________________________________________________________________________________
6 OU 18-6(7-4) 21 20 2-3 1-1
6 SLU 21-2(9-0) 16 82 0-2 2-2 Best win is Richmond
6 Memphis 17-5(7-3) 25 35 1-2 2-3 Beat Lville, OkSt,Gonz
6 Ohio St 19-5 (6-5) 15 9 1-1 2-2 Wins at Wisc/Iowa turned season
7 UMass 19-4(6-3) 13 41 0-0 3-2 Best win is N Mexico
7 Pitt 20-4(8-3) 23 67 0-4 1-0 Only top 50 win is Stanford
7 KState 16-7(6-4) 34 28 3-3 2-0 5 wins vs top 35
7 UNC 16-7(6-4) 36 19 2-3 2-0 Won 5 straight
8 Conn 17-5(5-4) 30 62 2-1 0-3 Good win vs Flor
8 OK St 16-7(4-6) 34 36 2-4 1-1 Lost 5 of 6
8 N Mexico 18-4(9-1) 32 77 1-2 0-0 Only good win is Cincy
8 G Wash 19-4(7-2) 28 111 1-0 1-1 Beat Creighton
9 VCU 19-5(7-2) 27 92 1-0 1-2 Good win at Virg
9 Gonz 20-4(11-1) 22 94 0-1 1-1 Missed chance to beat Mem
9 Stanford 15-7(6-4) 41 31 0-4 4-2 3rd best team right now in Pac12
9 Xavier 15-7(6-4) 45 50 1-2 1-2 Best win is Cincy
Post by: PowercatPat on February 09, 2014, 08:44:23 PM
Post by: JAORE on February 09, 2014, 09:08:02 PM
Here are my current projections of 6-9 seeds entering Monday. You can compare these teams with us. I think Ksu is in the 7-8 seed
area right now. FWIW, my 5 seeds are Texas, Iowa, Lville and Ucla. 10 seeds - SMU Cal Minn Colorado
.
Okie State is going to vanish from your list (although I note you said right now). With Smart gone for the next 3, and the way the team is playing even with him, OSU will be lucky to win 3 more in Conference play. That includes TCU and TTech plus a hot night/lucky win. So unless they make some noise in the Conference tournament I don't see them going dancing this year at all.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 09, 2014, 09:20:01 PM
I said this earlier in this thread, but UMass is so overrated. They should be an 11 or 12 seed.
They played a pretty solid non con schedule (22nd best) and that is why their overall SOS is decent, which makes their rpi in the top 15.
They are currently 4th in A-10 right now behind SLU (who I think is a 6) and GW/VCU (who I have as 9s). Right now their resume would have them around 7-8 seed IMO. Best RPI/SOS and they have the most top50 wins of the 4 Atl-10 teams. At the same time, they are not a team I would be afraid to play in the 1st rd of NCAA. They still play at GWash and SLU/Vcu at home, so they may get exposed here down the stretch
Post by: TownieCat on February 10, 2014, 09:16:39 AM
This is my favorite one yet... Roy and an overrated UNC in Rd 1, WSU in Rd 2, in STL/MEM. Can we just jump ahead 5 weeks and make this happen?
Post by: TownieCat on February 11, 2014, 10:40:34 AM
I understand that RPI is flawed, but it is a tool the committee uses.
Post by: Prince McJunkins on February 11, 2014, 11:04:23 AM
Post by: PowercatPat on February 11, 2014, 11:06:34 AM
After last night I would guess we'd be in the 6/7 range now?
Probably 7.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2014, 11:11:36 AM
After last night I would guess we'd be in the 6/7 range now?
Probably 7.
We're in good shape, but we still probably need a couple more road wins and to win out in the OOD.
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 11, 2014, 11:13:01 AM
Post by: PowercatPat on February 11, 2014, 11:15:53 AM
Any way if we run the table and make the BIGXII tournament championship game that we grab a 4 seed?
0% chance of us running the table.
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 11, 2014, 11:17:21 AM
Any way if we run the table and make the BIGXII tournament championship game that we grab a 4 seed?
0% chance of us running the table.
But post KU win optimism, tho
Post by: TownieCat on February 11, 2014, 11:24:15 AM
Any way if we run the table and make the BIGXII tournament championship game that we grab a 4 seed?
If we do this we'll be a 2.
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2014, 11:40:02 AM
Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2014, 12:39:01 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 11, 2014, 12:46:34 PM
After last night I would guess we'd be in the 6/7 range now?
I had Ksu as a 7 seed before last night, but we were in the 7-8 seed mix. Now we are a very solid 7 seed (and really no one can say we should be in the 8 vs 9 seed game). A win in Waco and we will be a 6 seed IMO, but we will stay a 7 with a loss.
7-4 in the best conference combined with 6 wins vs top 35 rpi teams. That's big time. No one outside the top 10 RPI teams have more than 2 wins vs top 25 RPI. Kstate has 4. And No team outside of the top 12 RPI teams have 6 top 50 wins (except for us)
If we limp to the finish and only win 2 more what will we get?
Not concerned about that right now. Mainly because I don't think that will happen.
Post by: #LIFE on February 13, 2014, 08:33:09 AM
Currently on the 7 line against 10 Stanford. Duke is the 2 in the 2-15 matchup. I haven't seen much of Duke this year outside of the Syracuse game so I don't know if that is 1 of the more favorable matchups we could hope for or not :dunno:
Post by: kso_FAN on February 13, 2014, 08:43:39 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Currently on the 7 line against 10 Stanford. Duke is the 2 in the 2-15 matchup. I haven't seen much of Duke this year outside of the Syracuse game so I don't know if that is 1 of the more favorable matchups we could hope for or not :dunno:
Duke has the most efficient offense in the country (ridiculously good at 1.28 ppp), but also the worst defense Coach K has had in the kenpom era (back to 03).
Post by: TownieCat on February 13, 2014, 08:46:14 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Currently on the 7 line against 10 Stanford. Duke is the 2 in the 2-15 matchup. I haven't seen much of Duke this year outside of the Syracuse game so I don't know if that is 1 of the more favorable matchups we could hope for or not :dunno:
This bracket is dogshit.
Of the four 2s I'd like our chances with Villanova the best. They don't have a lot of size.
Post by: pissclams on February 13, 2014, 09:17:25 AM
K-State is currently 6-3 vs the RPI Top 50 and 8-5 vs the Top 100. Last year the Cats were 6-8/8-8 by comparison. If we can manage to pick up 2-3 road wins the rest of the way getting to the 6 line is likely.http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Currently on the 7 line against 10 Stanford. Duke is the 2 in the 2-15 matchup. I haven't seen much of Duke this year outside of the Syracuse game so I don't know if that is 1 of the more favorable matchups we could hope for or not :dunno:
Duke has the most efficient offense in the country (ridiculously good at 1.28 ppp), but also the worst defense Coach K has had in the kenpom era (back to 03).
i would love a 6 seed
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 13, 2014, 09:20:03 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on February 13, 2014, 09:33:19 AM
K-State is currently 6-3 vs the RPI Top 50 and 8-5 vs the Top 100. Last year the Cats were 6-8/8-8 by comparison. If we can manage to pick up 2-3 road wins the rest of the way getting to the 6 line is likely.http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Currently on the 7 line against 10 Stanford. Duke is the 2 in the 2-15 matchup. I haven't seen much of Duke this year outside of the Syracuse game so I don't know if that is 1 of the more favorable matchups we could hope for or not :dunno:
Duke has the most efficient offense in the country (ridiculously good at 1.28 ppp), but also the worst defense Coach K has had in the kenpom era (back to 03).
i would love a 6 seed
Especially the 6 seed in the Region we're in. Minnesota, Creighton, Georgia St. That's a good shot a a S16 right there.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 13, 2014, 09:59:41 AM
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 13, 2014, 10:12:42 AM
Post by: #LIFE on February 13, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
I very well can see a committee enhance our resume by demising the Northern Colorado game. I could also see the committee trying to line up KU and Wichita State on the 2, 3 seed lines.
That would be fantastic. Come for the anger, stay for the butthurt
Post by: HELLHAMMER on February 13, 2014, 10:22:42 AM
I would love a potential E8 matchup with the Shockers. That would be fun.
I don't see WSU making it past the S16 round.
I could be wrong since football is the only sport I truly care about and because hobby sports don't pay the bills.
Post by: AbeFroman on February 13, 2014, 10:31:50 AM
I would :billdance: :dance: all day for a 6 seed.
The 6-11 matchup is the new 5-12. DO NOT WANT
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 13, 2014, 10:49:23 AM
Post by: PowercatPat on February 13, 2014, 11:37:33 AM
we only have one (1) road win on the entire season, and it is @ TCU
This.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 13, 2014, 11:41:45 AM
Quote
Top 25 (and one):Woohoo:
1 Syracuse
2 Arizona
3 Florida
4 Villanova
5 Wichita State
6 San Diego State
7 Kansas
8 Michigan State
9 Cincinnati
10 Iowa State
11 Duke
12 Iowa
13 Saint Louis
14 Michigan
15 Creighton
16 Louisville
17 Connecticut
18 Virginia
19 Memphis
20 Kentucky
21 Wisconsin
22 Texas
23 Ohio State
24 Southern Methodist
25 Gonzaga
26 Kansas State
Complete details
(02/13/2014)
Post by: #LIFE on February 13, 2014, 11:58:50 AM
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Post by: PowercatPat on February 13, 2014, 12:10:37 PM
http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/ (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/)
:bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse:
Looks good except for Syracuse.
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 13, 2014, 12:10:58 PM
http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/ (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/)
:bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse:
8 Big 12 teams :horrorsurprise:
Post by: scottwildcat on February 13, 2014, 12:11:21 PM
http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/ (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/)
:bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse:
eh i guess. would probably make it to the s16 and get killed by 'cuse. not sure it warrants 8 bracket mouses. If WSU was our 1 then maybe i could see it?
Post by: #LIFE on February 13, 2014, 12:16:56 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on February 13, 2014, 12:20:16 PM
Have you watched Syracuse this year? Yeah, they're good, but not a team I'm terrified of playing.
:dubious:
Post by: Winters on February 13, 2014, 12:59:13 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 13, 2014, 01:00:53 PM
http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/ (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/)
:bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse:
eh i guess. would probably make it to the s16 and get killed by 'cuse. not sure it warrants 8 bracket mouses. If WSU was our 1 then maybe i could see it?
Whatever bracket allows our team to make the S16 should be bracket moused like crazy
Post by: That_Guy on February 13, 2014, 01:55:42 PM
We should all be cheering for Orlando at this point. :Woot:
:crossfingers:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 13, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
I love you Winters, but Orlando sounds like the biggest tease in this world.We should all be cheering for Orlando at this point. :Woot:
:crossfingers:
Me: "Oh, man. Ok you guys! We're in Florida, let's hit up a beach."
Winters: "What are you talking about Fanning? Orlando isn't by the water. There's other stuff tho."
Me: "Wtf? I'm in a major Florida city and there's no beach? I'm out!"
Post by: scottwildcat on February 13, 2014, 01:59:00 PM
We should all be cheering for Orlando at this point. :Woot:
I would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.
Post by: That_Guy on February 13, 2014, 01:59:46 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 13, 2014, 02:05:33 PM
Like an hour drive from the beach though. If I remember correctly? Correct me if I'm wrong, Winters. Atlantic side if course.It's 45 minutes away from Tampa, but still. :shakesfist:
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 13, 2014, 02:10:37 PM
Do the above and its very unlikely we are the 4/5 in the Big 12 tourney. Our win over Ku will get us to the 3 seed (maybe 2).
At this point, I cant see us going 10-8, so I think 11-7 would be our worst record. And with that, I don't think we would be on the 8/9 seed game come March. 5 seed will be our ceiling with a 6 or 7 seed being the more likely outcome
Post by: kso_FAN on February 13, 2014, 02:13:31 PM
At this point, I cant see us going 10-8, so I think 11-7 would be our worst record. And with that, I don't think we would be on the 8/9 seed game come March. 5 seed will be our ceiling with a 6 or 7 seed being the more likely outcome
I agree, this seems to be where things are headed.
Post by: PowercatPat on February 13, 2014, 09:01:14 PM
Quote
Mock selection committee picks #KState as a 6-seed in the NCAA tournament. Highest I've seen this season. What KSU has done is remarkable.
Post by: sunny_cat on February 13, 2014, 09:02:30 PM
QuoteMock selection committee picks #KState as a 6-seed in the NCAA tournament. Highest I've seen this season. What KSU has done is remarkable.
Would take pretty hard.
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on February 13, 2014, 09:25:37 PM
http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/ (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/)
:bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse:
Looks good except for Syracuse.
5 seed :Woohoo:
'Cuse ? Facing that zone with Foster and NuWill would be like shooting fish in a barrel. :emawkid:
Post by: Houcat on February 13, 2014, 09:47:41 PM
Still butthurt about oscar, taking it out on the catz.
Post by: PowercatPat on February 13, 2014, 10:05:52 PM
#11 - http://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/TT.html (http://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/TT.html)
Still butthurt about oscar, taking it out on the catz.
That is some of the worst seeding I have ever seen.
Post by: Winters on February 14, 2014, 11:47:57 AM
I would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:
Like an hour drive from the beach though. If I remember correctly? Correct me if I'm wrong, Winters. Atlantic side if course.Daytona Beach :love:
We could do putt-putt by a Beef 'O Brady's :love:I love you Winters, but Orlando sounds like the biggest tease in this world.We should all be cheering for Orlando at this point. :Woot:
:crossfingers:
Me: "Oh, man. Ok you guys! We're in Florida, let's hit up a beach."
Winters: "What are you talking about Fanning? Orlando isn't by the water. There's other stuff tho."
Me: "Wtf? I'm in a major Florida city and there's no beach? I'm out!"
c'mon cats!
Post by: That_Guy on February 14, 2014, 11:49:11 AM
I would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:Like an hour drive from the beach though. If I remember correctly? Correct me if I'm wrong, Winters. Atlantic side if course.Daytona Beach :love:We could do putt-putt by a Beef 'O Brady's :love:I love you Winters, but Orlando sounds like the biggest tease in this world.We should all be cheering for Orlando at this point. :Woot:
:crossfingers:
Me: "Oh, man. Ok you guys! We're in Florida, let's hit up a beach."
Winters: "What are you talking about Fanning? Orlando isn't by the water. There's other stuff tho."
Me: "Wtf? I'm in a major Florida city and there's no beach? I'm out!"
c'mon cats!
I'm down for all this
Post by: Lefty on February 14, 2014, 11:57:07 AM
#11 - http://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/TT.html (http://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/TT.html)
Still butthurt about oscar, taking it out on the catz.
I emailed the guy:
Thank you for your email. I would suggest you look at the BPI and the RPI (two measures the selection committee like to use), which provides some interesting insights into the teams you list. We also weight road wins very positively, and bad home losses very negatively. As such, OSU and OU are currently trending downward. In addition, these numbers are fluid, so they will continue to evolve until Selection Sunday
Thank you again for your interest.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
Post by: Lefty on February 14, 2014, 11:58:35 AM
No problem Lefty. We are pure analytics... just by the numbers.
The KSU loss to NCol was indeed a killer that (unfortunately) the committee will not forget. I would like to see KSU grab a road win in the next two weeks. They will likely gravitate upward if this occurs, and/or if the other teams in the 7-11 range falter (like OSU and OU currently are).
BTW, not all people at Illinois were unhappy with oscar Weber. He is a nice man.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
Post by: Winters on February 14, 2014, 12:00:02 PM
pfffft#11 - http://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/TT.html (http://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/TT.html)
Still butthurt about oscar, taking it out on the catz.
I emailed the guy:
Thank you for your email. I would suggest you look at the BPI and the RPI (two measures the selection committee like to use), which provides some interesting insights into the teams you list. We also weight road wins very positively, and bad home losses very negatively. As such, OSU and OU are currently trending downward. In addition, these numbers are fluid, so they will continue to evolve until Selection Sunday
Thank you again for your interest.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 14, 2014, 12:00:40 PM
We got this thing back on track now. :love:I would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:Like an hour drive from the beach though. If I remember correctly? Correct me if I'm wrong, Winters. Atlantic side if course.Daytona Beach :love:We could do putt-putt by a Beef 'O Brady's :love:I love you Winters, but Orlando sounds like the biggest tease in this world.We should all be cheering for Orlando at this point. :Woot:
:crossfingers:
Me: "Oh, man. Ok you guys! We're in Florida, let's hit up a beach."
Winters: "What are you talking about Fanning? Orlando isn't by the water. There's other stuff tho."
Me: "Wtf? I'm in a major Florida city and there's no beach? I'm out!"
c'mon cats!
I'm down for all this
Post by: SEK_EMAW on February 14, 2014, 12:03:24 PM
I would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:
Blackfish, guys. :cry:
Post by: scottwildcat on February 14, 2014, 12:11:02 PM
I would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:
Blackfish, guys. :cry:
Yeah....makes me sad I love seaworld, now conflicted.
Post by: TownieCat on February 14, 2014, 12:20:58 PM
follow up email:
No problem Lefty. We are pure analytics... just by the numbers.
The KSU loss to NCol was indeed a killer that (unfortunately) the committee will not forget. I would like to see KSU grab a road win in the next two weeks. They will likely gravitate upward if this occurs, and/or if the other teams in the 7-11 range falter (like OSU and OU currently are).
BTW, not all people at Illinois were unhappy with oscar Weber. He is a nice man.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
This guy is a moron.
Post by: Winters on February 14, 2014, 12:22:57 PM
Cheer up! and #gocats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G97m-VGExykI would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:
Blackfish, guys. :cry:
Yeah....makes me sad I love seaworld, now conflicted.
Post by: signature move on February 14, 2014, 12:45:27 PM
follow up email:
No problem Lefty. We are pure analytics... just by the numbers.
The KSU loss to NCol was indeed a killer that (unfortunately) the committee will not forget. I would like to see KSU grab a road win in the next two weeks. They will likely gravitate upward if this occurs, and/or if the other teams in the 7-11 range falter (like OSU and OU currently are).
BTW, not all people at Illinois were unhappy with oscar Weber. He is a nice man.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
This guy is a moron.
bad enough we (illinois) suck at
also, for a bunch of :kstategrad: s you guys sure like a lot of shitty chain restaurants. and excited about orlando? sheesh.
Post by: Winters on February 14, 2014, 12:47:26 PM
I don't think you get itfollow up email:
No problem Lefty. We are pure analytics... just by the numbers.
The KSU loss to NCol was indeed a killer that (unfortunately) the committee will not forget. I would like to see KSU grab a road win in the next two weeks. They will likely gravitate upward if this occurs, and/or if the other teams in the 7-11 range falter (like OSU and OU currently are).
BTW, not all people at Illinois were unhappy with oscar Weber. He is a nice man.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
This guy is a moron.
bad enough we (illinois) suck atbasketballall sports now, but now our supercomputer guys are fuckwits?
also, for a bunch of :kstategrad: s you guys sure like a lot of shitty chain restaurants. and excited about orlando? sheesh.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 14, 2014, 12:49:38 PM
Post by: signature move on February 14, 2014, 12:57:32 PM
I don't think you get itfollow up email:
No problem Lefty. We are pure analytics... just by the numbers.
The KSU loss to NCol was indeed a killer that (unfortunately) the committee will not forget. I would like to see KSU grab a road win in the next two weeks. They will likely gravitate upward if this occurs, and/or if the other teams in the 7-11 range falter (like OSU and OU currently are).
BTW, not all people at Illinois were unhappy with oscar Weber. He is a nice man.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
This guy is a moron.
bad enough we (illinois) suck atbasketballall sports now, but now our supercomputer guys are fuckwits?
also, for a bunch of :kstategrad: s you guys sure like a lot of shitty chain restaurants. and excited about orlando? sheesh.
:facepalm: <--- my face and my palm at my post.
(snack off discussions, tho)
Wow I had no idea how bad Illinois is in basketball. They started 13-2 and followed it up with a 1-9 record.
oh ya.
Post by: scottwildcat on February 14, 2014, 01:51:30 PM
OMG Wintz we gotta go to that show.Cheer up! and #gocats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G97m-VGExykI would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:
Blackfish, guys. :cry:
Yeah....makes me sad I love seaworld, now conflicted.
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 14, 2014, 02:03:22 PM
I don't think you get itfollow up email:
No problem Lefty. We are pure analytics... just by the numbers.
The KSU loss to NCol was indeed a killer that (unfortunately) the committee will not forget. I would like to see KSU grab a road win in the next two weeks. They will likely gravitate upward if this occurs, and/or if the other teams in the 7-11 range falter (like OSU and OU currently are).
BTW, not all people at Illinois were unhappy with oscar Weber. He is a nice man.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
This guy is a moron.
bad enough we (illinois) suck atbasketballall sports now, but now our supercomputer guys are fuckwits?
also, for a bunch of :kstategrad: s you guys sure like a lot of shitty chain restaurants. and excited about orlando? sheesh.
:facepalm: <--- my face and my palm at my post.
(snack off discussions, tho)Wow I had no idea how bad Illinois is in basketball. They started 13-2 and followed it up with a 1-9 record.
oh ya.
Mods can we make this guy a Fightin Bread in his profile, please? Thanks.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 16, 2014, 11:34:48 PM
My current 5 seeds are -- Texas, SLU, Iowa, UCLA. 9 seeds are = Ariz St, Cal, G Washington, Xavier
Team/Seed Record (Conf) RPI SOS 1-25 26-50 Other stat/comment
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6 L'ville 20-4(9-2) 34 104 1-2 2-2 Weak SOS hurts them
6 UConn 20-5(8-4) 24 66 1-1 2-3 Beat Fla, Swept Memphis
6 OU 19-7(8-5) 25 22 2-3 4-1 4-3 on road in Big 12
6 Ohio St 20-6(7-6) 18 6 1-2 2-2 Good road wins at Wisc/Iowa
7 KState 17-8(7-5) 34 24 4-3 2-1 4 wins vs top 25, but 1-5 on road
7 Memphis 18-6(8-4) 33 49 1-4 2-2 Won at Lville, Beat Gonz, but only 4 top 100 wins
7 UNC 17-7(7-4) 27 13 2-3 3-0 Good wins vs Mich St/Kentucky. Only 1 of 7 ACC wins is tourney team
7 Pitt 20-6(8-5) 31 44 0-5 1-1 Tough loss to Cuse. Stanford is only top 50 win
8 VCU 20-6(8-3) 22 55 1-1 2-2 Good win at Virginia
8 Gonz 22-4(13-1) 23 105 0-0 1-2 Only good win is BYU
8 UMass 20-5(7-4) 19 53 0-0 4-2 Beat N Mexico, G Wash. Good non con SOS 34
8 N Mexico 19-5(10-2) 32 67 1-2 0-0 Only good win is Cincy. Good non con SOS 16
Post by: nicname on February 17, 2014, 12:02:07 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 17, 2014, 08:47:53 AM
I honestly don't know why Mizzou is safely in. They had one win over UCLA and that's it.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 17, 2014, 08:49:26 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
I honestly don't know why Mizzou is safely in. They had one win over UCLA and that's it.
Shock the world!
Post by: TownieCat on February 17, 2014, 08:55:46 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
I honestly don't know why Mizzou is safely in. They had one win over UCLA and that's it.
OU would mush Mizzou by 20.
Sign me up for any scenario in which we play a bubble team in Rd 1 and WSU in Rd 2. Cal has 1 win vs the top 40...
Post by: TownieCat on February 17, 2014, 11:32:32 AM
NICK!!!!!!
Post by: Prince McJunkins on February 17, 2014, 11:45:13 AM
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology)
NICK!!!!!!
Do not want to play a Larry Brown-coached team.
Post by: signature move on February 17, 2014, 12:59:41 PM
Mods can we make this guy a Fightin Bread in his profile, please? Thanks.
oscar heads! what a treat!
anyways, yeah, nick, larry, orlando, "wisconsin's in our bracket!", etc.
(really, tho'. . . don't see how you guys get anything less than a 6 seed.)
Post by: PowercatPat on February 17, 2014, 12:59:57 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
I honestly don't know why Mizzou is safely in. They had one win over UCLA and that's it.
Plus, they have a .500 record in one of the worst conferences. SEC will probably only get 3 out of 14 teams in the tournament.
Post by: scottwildcat on February 17, 2014, 01:13:01 PM
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology)
NICK!!!!!!
if we were to get the 6 in that west bracket i would cream my shorts like crazy.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 17, 2014, 01:50:18 PM
As far as Mizzou goes. They are not safely in. CBS (J Palm) has them as a 10 right now. That is being kind
If you are in the "Last 4 in" or you are an 11 seed..... then your place is not secure. I would say Mizzou is in this spot right now. The only win that could really help their resume from here on out is winning at Tenn. The other games are ones they are suppose to win and should win. So if they go 4-2 the last 3 weeks, I think they are right there on the edge or being in or out
Post by: Lefty on February 17, 2014, 02:19:24 PM
Gonzaga- finishes season with 4 away games in a row. of course this could vault them higher if they win out
Uconn- hosts SMU and Cinci but finishes at Louisville
Memphis- last 3, hosts Louisville, @ Cinci and hosts SMU
SMU- @ Uconn, hosts Louisville, @ Memphis
VCU- @ UMass and hosts SLU
Umass- hosts VCU and SLU
basically lots of bball to be played. this crap could go anywhere :runaway: our seeding could be from 6-9
Post by: Trogdor on February 17, 2014, 02:48:40 PM
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This is some real big 10 hatred, or maybe just blind A10 love. How can Dayton be in the next four out but Nebraska not even be in any consideration for the tourney? Both teams are .500 in their respective conferences, but I think the big 10 is a bit harder (SARCASM) to play in than the A10. I know Dayton got a couple nice non-con wins with Gonzaga and Cal on neutral courts, but Nebraska's played a similar level of non conference (they just lost their big games) and has wins @MSU and at home over OSU. I also know that margin of victory doesn't matter, but Nebraska lost at home to Michigan by a point, they need some credit for that too. Sure Nebraska lost to UAB and had a couple tough road losses to Purdue and Penn St in the big 10, but Dayton's got such losses as Rhode Island and (ouch) USC on their resume. There is no way the A10 deserves as many teams in the tourney as the big 10 and more in than the ACC.
Post by: CatintheLou on February 17, 2014, 03:43:28 PM
This year we are not winning the Big 12, currently have 8 losses and will almost for sure have at least 10 by Selection Sunday...I'd say a 6 is out of the question and 7 is a long shot. Get ready for an 8/9 with Florida or Syracuse waiting for us. Don't think we're lucky enough to get that 8/9 in St Louis with the Shockers.
:bball:
Post by: scottwildcat on February 17, 2014, 03:45:12 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 17, 2014, 03:48:07 PM
Fwiw we got mumped last year w/ our seedWTF are you talking about, we were one La Salle pants shitting away from taking the WSU cakewalk to the final four?
Post by: ksu101 on February 17, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 17, 2014, 03:51:37 PM
Weren't we a 4 seed last year?Yeah, that's what I thought. We played vs a play in winner.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 17, 2014, 04:08:30 PM
Last year we won the Big 12 and were 27-7 and got a 6 seed.
This year we are not winning the Big 12, currently have 8 losses and will almost for sure have at least 10 by Selection Sunday...I'd say a 6 is out of the question and 7 is a long shot. Get ready for an 8/9 with Florida or Syracuse waiting for us. Don't think we're lucky enough to get that 8/9 in St Louis with the Shockers.
:bball:
Please don't post if you don't know what you are talking about. Each year is different.
Last year, we did go 14-4 in the Big 12 and go 27-7 overall. However, our only top 100 win in the non con was Florida. Now that was a very good win, but this year we have 2 non con wins vs top 50 tourney teams Gonzaga and GW, plus a win over top 75 team Ole Miss
Last year, we were 6-7 vs top 50 rpi teams. This year we are currently 6-4. This year, we had 2 losses that are not good (No Col. and Charlotte) Last year our non con losses were not bad losses. This year the Big 12 is the #1 rated conference. Last year it was 5th
In 2011, we were 21-10 and 10-6 in Big 12. Lost to CU for the 3rd straight time in Big12 tourney. We only had 3 top 50 wins (KU and at Texas were impressive wins). And we got a 5 seed
So 14-4 with 6 top 50 wins, and we won 2 Big 12 tourney games = that got us a 4 seed with 7 overall losses
10-6 with 3 top 50 wins, we won 0 Big 12 tourney games = that got us a 5 seed with 10 overall losses
Each year is a little different. I will admit, I had us being a 3 seed last year and I thought we were probably gonna get a 6-7 seed in 2011
Post by: TownieCat on February 17, 2014, 04:20:11 PM
For example, in 2011 there were 6 at large teams with 13+ losses, one as high as an 8. Two of the other 5s also had double digit losses that year. In 2010 we had 7 losses just like we did last year and got a 2 seed.
A couple more really quality wins (ISU, @OU, @OSU, B12 Tourney) could easily bump us up to the 4 or 5 line.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 17, 2014, 04:43:35 PM
Each year's resume doesn't exist in a vacuum. What other teams are doing has quite a bit to do with it. There are major variables every year.
For example, in 2011 there were 6 at large teams with 13+ losses, one as high as an 8. Two of the other 5s also had double digit losses that year. In 2010 we had 7 losses just like we did last year and got a 2 seed.
A couple more really quality wins (ISU, @OU, @OSU, B12 Tourney) could easily bump us up to the 4 or 5 line.
Yep each year is a little different. The reason we got a 2 seed with 7 losses in 2010 had a lot to do with our RPI was 6 and our SOS was 2, and The Big 12 was the #1 or #2 rated conference. We also had some real nice wins in the non con that year. Last year our conf record was actually better than the 11-5 we were in 2010, but our RPI was 21 and our SOS was 58 and the Big 12 was the 5th rated conference by the RPI.
Getting a 4 or 5 seed is likely out of the question. The teams on the 4 seed line right now have quite a bit better resume than us
I thought if we could go 12-6, win at least 1 game in the Big 12 tourney, that we might be able to get a 5 seed. Doing all of that is gonna be tough. Right now, I think it is such a longshot, I am not even considering us for a 5 seed anymore. I would love to play well enough down the stretch to get a 6 seed
Post by: CatintheLou on February 17, 2014, 05:14:49 PM
Post by: Prince McJunkins on February 22, 2014, 07:30:21 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 22, 2014, 07:41:37 PM
Are we on the bubble?1
We're still on the safe side. Just win out at home and we'll have 1 more Top 25 win and maybe 2 more Top 50 wins.
We are currently 6-5 vs the Top 50 and 10-7 vs the Top 100. Last year we were 6-8 and 10-8 for comparison.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2014, 07:53:52 PM
Post by: kim carnes on February 22, 2014, 08:06:23 PM
Post by: Prince McJunkins on February 22, 2014, 08:07:15 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 22, 2014, 08:24:37 PM
We sucked last year and we suck this year so wgaf about our seed, we're going to lose early
Where's the cutoff line of sucking?
Post by: catzacker on February 22, 2014, 08:32:33 PM
Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win against TCU. Lose first game in conf tourney.
Post by: sunny_cat on February 22, 2014, 08:33:16 PM
Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win againstTCUBaylor. Lose first game in conf tourney.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 22, 2014, 08:34:52 PM
Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win against TCU. Lose first game in conf tourney.
If that happens we will be on the bubble. I don't think it will.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2014, 08:34:59 PM
Love that zacker is back. He probably didn't know what to do w/ himself after the Texas and KU wins. :cheers:Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win against TCU. Lose first game in conf tourney.
Post by: catzacker on February 22, 2014, 08:35:46 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on February 22, 2014, 08:37:05 PM
Oh, eff. Forgot it was Baylor. We will lose to them. Yeah. We will be in danger.
I think we'll beat Baylor. Get one somewhere else. 10-8.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2014, 08:38:08 PM
Post by: catzacker on February 22, 2014, 08:40:18 PM
Love that zacker is back. He probably didn't know what to do w/ himself after the Texas and KU wins. :cheers:Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win against TCU. Lose first game in conf tourney.
I was rough ridin' happy beating ku and UT. But that doesn't cover the stench of crap this team has laid the past week. Nor does it mask the crap show at wvu. This team has a ton of work left to do. And it looks like a complete dumpster fire.
Post by: catzacker on February 22, 2014, 08:42:42 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 22, 2014, 08:45:38 PM
Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win against TCU. Lose first game in conf tourney.
We already played TCU twice. We have @TT @OSU, Home for ISU/Baylor. No easy games.
Post by: catzacker on February 22, 2014, 08:50:19 PM
Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win against TCU. Lose first game in conf tourney.
We already played TCU twice. We have @TT @OSU, Home for ISU/Baylor. No easy games.
Hey. Did you know we beat KU and UT? That counts for like 8 wins. We could lose every game. Doesn't matter. Beat the hawks and horns.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2014, 08:51:40 PM
But hey, I mean we beat KU and UT so eff yeah. Let's celebrate.Hey dork, I think if we win two the rest of the way we're in. I'm not a total dork store. :shakesfist:
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 22, 2014, 08:53:04 PM
Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win against TCU. Lose first game in conf tourney.
We already played TCU twice. We have @TT @OSU, Home for ISU/Baylor. No easy games.
Hey. Did you know we beat KU and UT? That counts for like 8 wins. We could lose every game. Doesn't matter. Beat the hawks and horns.
They count as much good as today and last Saturday count bad.
Post by: kim carnes on February 22, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
But hey, I mean we beat KU and UT so eff yeah. Let's celebrate.Hey dork, I think if we win two the rest of the way we're in. I'm not a total dork store. :shakesfist:
who cares about being in the tournament, we suck
Post by: catzacker on February 22, 2014, 08:53:29 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2014, 08:54:23 PM
:dubious:But hey, I mean we beat KU and UT so eff yeah. Let's celebrate.Hey dork, I think if we win two the rest of the way we're in. I'm not a total dork store. :shakesfist:
who cares about being in the tournament, we suck
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 22, 2014, 08:57:18 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 22, 2014, 09:01:14 PM
Post by: Cire on February 22, 2014, 09:25:42 PM
Post by: kim carnes on February 22, 2014, 09:30:47 PM
:dubious:But hey, I mean we beat KU and UT so eff yeah. Let's celebrate.Hey dork, I think if we win two the rest of the way we're in. I'm not a total dork store. :shakesfist:
who cares about being in the tournament, we suck
guess what fanning? you've been oscar'd!
Post by: bones129 on February 22, 2014, 09:32:26 PM
:popcorn:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2014, 09:34:39 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 22, 2014, 09:43:55 PM
Post by: catzacker on February 22, 2014, 09:44:51 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2014, 09:48:25 PM
wait, how do underrated freshmen overachieve? if the freshmen are really good then they should be doing way better than this crap.They got us here to our current state, which is IN!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 22, 2014, 09:51:42 PM
We're literally guaranteed a NIT final 4 if we can get a 1 or 2 seed and pound some puds in the fOOD
We are going to the tornament.
We will win the 8/9 game.
We will lose a close game against the 1 seed.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 22, 2014, 09:52:28 PM
We're literally guaranteed a NIT final 4 if we can get a 1 or 2 seed and pound some puds in the fOOD
We are going to the tornament.
We will win the 8/9 game.
We will lose a close game against the 1 seed.
:lol:
Post by: kim carnes on February 22, 2014, 09:52:54 PM
We're literally guaranteed a NIT final 4 if we can get a 1 or 2 seed and pound some puds in the fOOD
We are going to the tornament.
We will win the 8/9 game.
We will lose a close game against the 1 seed.
lol. it will not be close. at all.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2014, 09:54:53 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on February 22, 2014, 10:08:20 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on February 22, 2014, 10:09:04 PM
fwiw i think we are going to win at Tech and both home games. and atleast 1 in the b12t :koolaid:
You also thought we were going to beat OU today.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 22, 2014, 10:09:44 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 22, 2014, 11:18:37 PM
I think the difference between this team on the road and home is real and significant. Also, I don't put much stock into being a little flat against a terrible TCU team.
I put stock in the last two games played being the worst games played since December. I think we are running out of gas, we'll see.
Post by: Tobias on February 22, 2014, 11:25:41 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on February 22, 2014, 11:28:22 PM
don't carefwiw i think we are going to win at Tech and both home games. and atleast 1 in the b12t :koolaid:
You also thought we were going to beat OU today.
Post by: chum1 on February 22, 2014, 11:32:17 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on February 22, 2014, 11:32:32 PM
:don'tcare:fwiw i think we are going to win at Tech and both home games. and atleast 1 in the b12t :koolaid:
You also thought we were going to beat OU today.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 22, 2014, 11:33:34 PM
Those who are have no idea how bad the current 11 seeds and "Last 4 team in" really are
Right now we are a 8 seed IMO.
We have a game at Tech in a few days. Lets see how our team rebounds from a butt kicking
Post by: bones129 on February 22, 2014, 11:45:28 PM
don't carefwiw i think we are going to win at Tech and both home games. and atleast 1 in the b12t :koolaid:
You also thought we were going to beat OU today.
Binge level check-in, please.
Post by: scottwildcat on February 22, 2014, 11:55:18 PM
don't carefwiw i think we are going to win at Tech and both home games. and atleast 1 in the b12t :koolaid:
You also thought we were going to beat OU today.
Binge level check-in, please.
honestly doesn't even matter.
Post by: catzacker on February 23, 2014, 09:44:53 AM
wait, how do underrated freshmen overachieve? if the freshmen are really good then they should be doing way better than this crap.They got us here to our current state, which is IN!
oh well, hell. hang a banner. right next to oscar's coach of the year award.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 23, 2014, 10:20:15 AM
I think the difference between this team on the road and home is real and significant. Also, I don't put much stock into being a little flat against a terrible TCU team.
I put stock in the last two games played being the worst games played since December. I think we are running out of gas, we'll see.
Its possible, I certainly wouldn't rule it out. But I see the problems in the two games completely seperate. We played solid defense against TCU the entire game, we just had a flat offensive effort after we got up early and had a bunch of silly turnovers. Honestly, I think Nino getting into foul trouble hurt a lot because he's great as the baseline swing guy against a zone and without Southwell we were in trouble. Plus we just played uninspired basketball.
However, in the OTs against Baylor (we played pretty good defense in regulation) and against OU our defense has been awful. If we don't play defense we won't win because we are a below average offensive team with major turnover problems. We are average on the offensive glass and don't get to the foul line a lot.
We'll have to see how we do Tuesday, it would be really big to win that game.
Post by: TownieCat on February 23, 2014, 01:08:14 PM
How anyone can expect this team to win outside of Bramlage is beyond me.
I think we'll win our first game in KC. We'll have a home court advantage vs anyone except KU there.
Post by: PowercatPat on February 23, 2014, 03:01:29 PM
How anyone can expect this team to win outside of Bramlage is beyond me.
I think we'll win our first game in KC. We'll have a home court advantage vs anyone except KU there.
That home court advantage worked out real well against La Salle last year in KC.
Post by: kim carnes on February 23, 2014, 03:09:31 PM
How anyone can expect this team to win outside of Bramlage is beyond me.
I think we'll win our first game in KC. We'll have a home court advantage vs anyone except KU there.
That home court advantage worked out real well against La Salle last year in KC.
Hey man, oscar has won more games in his first two years than any coach in k-state history. he can lose every ncaa tournament game from now til the end of time and he'll still have won more games in his first two years than any other coach in k-state history. so just stfu already.
Post by: Winters on February 23, 2014, 04:16:31 PM
:lol: :thumbs:How anyone can expect this team to win outside of Bramlage is beyond me.
I think we'll win our first game in KC. We'll have a home court advantage vs anyone except KU there.
That home court advantage worked out real well against La Salle last year in KC.
Hey man, oscar has won more games in his first two years than any coach in k-state history. he can lose every ncaa tournament game from now til the end of time and he'll still have won more games in his first two years than any other coach in k-state history. so just stfu already.
Post by: chum1 on February 23, 2014, 04:23:32 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on February 23, 2014, 04:25:34 PM
yep, we are destined to lose a tough game vs UF in Orlando or Syracuse in Buffalo and I will be thinking about the Heslip and Holmes as we intentionally foul the in the final minute.We're literally guaranteed a NIT final 4 if we can get a 1 or 2 seed and pound some puds in the fOOD
We are going to the tornament.
We will win the 8/9 game.
We will lose a close game against the 1 seed.
Post by: scottwildcat on February 23, 2014, 04:50:18 PM
yep, we are destined to lose a tough game vs UF in Orlando or Syracuse in Buffalo and I will be thinking about the Heslip and Holmes as we intentionally foul the in the final minute.We're literally guaranteed a NIT final 4 if we can get a 1 or 2 seed and pound some puds in the fOOD
We are going to the tornament.
We will win the 8/9 game.
We will lose a close game against the 1 seed.
nope we beat WSU in Saint Louis. S16 here we come.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 23, 2014, 10:05:06 PM
Team/Seed Record (Conf) RPI SOS 1-25 26-50 Other stat/comment
______________________________________________________________________________________________
7 UMass 21-5(8-4) 13 44 2-0 4-2 Beat GW and Vcu last 2 gms
7 UConn 21-6(9-5) 26 75 1-1 2-4 Beat Fla, Swept Memphis
7 N Mexico 21-5(12-2) 21 32 2-2 0-0 Beat SD St on Sat
7 Memphis 20-6(10-4) 37 86 0-2 3-4 Only have 4 wins vs top 150 rpi
8 KState 18-9(8-6) 42 42 3-4 3-1 good wins, bad road record
8 Stanford 18-8(9-5) 41 51 1-3 3-4 wins over Ucla and at Uconn
8 VCU 20-7(8-4) 25 49 1-2 2-2 Good win at Virg, split with GW
8 G Wash 20-7(8-5) 30 67 2-3 1-1 Good win over Creighton
9 Ariz St 19-8(8-6) 32 55 1-3 3-2 Beat AZ, but weak non con resume
9 Pitt 20-7(8-6) 33 53 0-6 1-0 Only good win is Stanford
9 SMU 22-6(11-4) 45 165 1-2 3-1 Beat Cincy, Swept UConn. But SOS 165, non con SOS 294
9 Cal 18-9(9-5) 49 47 1-4 2-2 Good win over AZ
Post by: kso_FAN on February 24, 2014, 06:46:20 AM
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2014, 07:54:52 AM
Post by: ltrain on February 24, 2014, 11:26:09 AM
:dunno:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 24, 2014, 11:28:33 AM
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 24, 2014, 11:54:37 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 24, 2014, 11:58:14 AM
How much value does the BIG 12 tournament have? If we can make a run in there... does that boost national perception and help people forget we scored 22 points in the first half in Norman?
Maybe helps a bit if we beat ISU, UT, or OU. Would be significant if we beat KU.
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 24, 2014, 12:05:09 PM
Post by: The1BigWillie on February 24, 2014, 12:46:18 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
:dunno:
KU
KSU
OU –(former KSU coach Kruger from Silver lake Kansas)
Stephen F. Austin – (Former KSU assistant Brad Underwood from McPherson Kansas)
Southern Methodist -- (Former KU coach Larry Brown)
Wichita State
Oklahoma State – (Bill Self’s Alma mater)
Colorado – (Former KU player and Wichita State assistant Tad Boyle)
Michigan – Knocked KU out of tourney last year
Boston U - (B team)
I mean… come on Lunardi… give me a break.
Post by: PowercatPat on February 24, 2014, 12:52:24 PM
Can you imagine shockernet if we beat them?
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 24, 2014, 12:55:34 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 24, 2014, 01:08:37 PM
Would only take an 8/9 seed if we play WSU in the 2nd round.
Can you imagine shockernet if we beat them?
Would validate ENTIRE SEASON. :Purple Koolaid:
Post by: wabash909 on February 24, 2014, 01:22:44 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 24, 2014, 01:23:42 PM
Hey guys, I was just wondering if we lose all of our remaining games if we would still make the Big Dance. Because I'm pretty sure we're not going to win another game. Thanks.
If we lose out, no way we make the tournament.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 24, 2014, 01:27:21 PM
At this point I think it's more likely the Cats fall to a 10 than rise to a 7. ISU at home would be a significant win though.
I think we are gonna have to get 3 more wins to get off of the 8/9 game. That could be going 3-1 to end the season or 2-2 and win a Big12 tourney game (very likely the 4 vs 5 game in the B12). Like always it will depend on what those teams that are barely ahead of us do the rest of the year too.
I had Memphis as my weakest 7 seed. They have a good 20-6(10-4) record but only 4 of those wins are vs top 150. Lunardi had SMU as a 7 while I have them as a 9. Their non con SOS being 294 is horribly bad. And the American conference has good teams in the top half and terrible teams in the bottom half (thus the 8th rated conf overall). So the conf sched for SMU helps them some but their overall SOS is still 165(rpi 45)
** Last year Oregon went 26-8 but non con SOS was 253 and their overall SOS was only 125, RPI 46. They got a 12 seed
Would only take an 8/9 seed if we play WSU in the 2nd round.
Can you imagine shockernet if we beat them?
Yeah, being in the 8/9 game with Shockers as the 1 would be totally fine. If we don't get that, then being in the 8/9 game will likely suck
Post by: Skipper44 on February 24, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
Ya, that was some bullshit for OSU as a 5 to have to play Oregon in San Jose, almost as bad as UNLV having to play 12 seeded Cal there.At this point I think it's more likely the Cats fall to a 10 than rise to a 7. ISU at home would be a significant win though.
I think we are gonna have to get 3 more wins to get off of the 8/9 game. That could be going 3-1 to end the season or 2-2 and win a Big12 tourney game (very likely the 4 vs 5 game in the B12). Like always it will depend on what those teams that are barely ahead of us do the rest of the year too.
I had Memphis as my weakest 7 seed. They have a good 20-6(10-4) record but only 4 of those wins are vs top 150. Lunardi had SMU as a 7 while I have them as a 9. Their non con SOS being 294 is horribly bad. And the American conference has good teams in the top half and terrible teams in the bottom half (thus the 8th rated conf overall). So the conf sched for SMU helps them some but their overall SOS is still 165(rpi 45)
** Last year Oregon went 26-8 but non con SOS was 253 and their overall SOS was only 125, RPI 46. They got a 12 seedWould only take an 8/9 seed if we play WSU in the 2nd round.
Can you imagine shockernet if we beat them?
Yeah, being in the 8/9 game with Shockers as the 1 would be totally fine. If we don't get that, then being in the 8/9 game will likely suck
Post by: joda on February 24, 2014, 07:15:45 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
:dunno:
KU
KSU
OU –(former KSU coach Kruger from Silver lake Kansas)
Stephen F. Austin – (Former KSU assistant Brad Underwood from McPherson Kansas)
Southern Methodist -- (Former KU coach Larry Brown)
Wichita State
Oklahoma State – (Bill Self’s Alma mater)
Colorado – (Former KU player and Wichita State assistant Tad Boyle)
Michigan – Knocked KU out of tourney last year
Boston U - (B team)
I mean… come on Lunardi… give me a break.
Yea, no way that happens. Just the 3 Kansas teams and both Oklahoma teams being in the same region make it pretty :dubious:
Post by: kim carnes on February 24, 2014, 09:30:12 PM
Yeah, being in the 8/9 game with Shockers as the 1 would be totally fine. If we don't get that, then being in the 8/9 game will likely suck
Wichita St would destroy us.
Post by: PowercatPat on February 24, 2014, 09:56:53 PM
Yeah, being in the 8/9 game with Shockers as the 1 would be totally fine. If we don't get that, then being in the 8/9 game will likely suck
Wichita St would destroy us.
I would rather play them than any other possible 1 or 2 seed that we might face as a 7-10 seed, and it's really not even close.
Post by: kim carnes on February 24, 2014, 09:58:20 PM
Yeah, being in the 8/9 game with Shockers as the 1 would be totally fine. If we don't get that, then being in the 8/9 game will likely suck
Wichita St would destroy us.
I would rather play them than any other possible 1 or 2 seed that we might face as a 7-10 seed, and it's really not even close.
well you go ahead and do that pat, but i'll take florida all day long. oscar owns billy.
Post by: PowercatPat on February 24, 2014, 10:02:19 PM
Yeah, being in the 8/9 game with Shockers as the 1 would be totally fine. If we don't get that, then being in the 8/9 game will likely suck
Wichita St would destroy us.
I would rather play them than any other possible 1 or 2 seed that we might face as a 7-10 seed, and it's really not even close.
well you go ahead and do that pat, but i'll take florida all day long. oscar owns billy.
JFC, Kim.
:facepalm:
Post by: kim carnes on February 24, 2014, 10:04:14 PM
Yeah, being in the 8/9 game with Shockers as the 1 would be totally fine. If we don't get that, then being in the 8/9 game will likely suck
Wichita St would destroy us.
I would rather play them than any other possible 1 or 2 seed that we might face as a 7-10 seed, and it's really not even close.
well you go ahead and do that pat, but i'll take florida all day long. oscar owns billy.
JFC, Kim.
:facepalm:
wake up and smell the coffee pat. oscar is 1-0 against billy while at k-state. he understands how to beat billy.
Post by: scottwildcat on February 24, 2014, 10:32:37 PM
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 25, 2014, 09:55:51 AM
Would only take an 8/9 seed if we play WSU in the 2nd round.
Can you imagine shockernet if we beat them?
Would validate ENTIRE SEASON. :Purple Koolaid:
I would pulling for the Cardiac Cats so hard in that game.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2014, 11:11:01 AM
Quote
Kansas State
(18-9, 8-6, 5th BIG12 ) | RPI/Rank: 0.5893/43 | SOS/Rank: 0.5726/33
Opponent's CBSSports.com RPI Rank No. 1-25 No. 26-50 No. 51-100 No. 101-200 No. 201+
W-L Record vs. Ranked Teams 3-4 3-1 2-2 4-2 6-0
Outlook
The Wildcats are a home court hero. They suffered their sixth straight road loss at Oklahoma on Saturday. They may have too many good wins to leave out entirely, but their seed will not be good if they don't ever get a good win on the road.
Post by: sunny_cat on February 25, 2014, 12:55:38 PM
Would only take an 8/9 seed if we play WSU in the 2nd round.
Can you imagine shockernet if we beat them?
Would validate ENTIRE SEASON. :Purple Koolaid:
I would pulling for the Cardiac Cats so hard in that game.
:thumbs:
Post by: kim carnes on February 25, 2014, 07:15:44 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on February 25, 2014, 07:20:52 PM
we wouldn't win a first round NIT game. not joking.
Home games, tho.
Post by: kim carnes on February 25, 2014, 07:43:19 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on February 25, 2014, 08:21:15 PM
do we get in at 8-10? i don't think so
11-7 HERE WE COME.
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on February 25, 2014, 08:26:27 PM
do we get in at 8-10? i don't think so
11-7 HERE WE COME.
At 11 wins(conf) , does this get us better than the 8/9 line ? I believe it does.
Post by: Nick Florences Beard on February 25, 2014, 08:26:47 PM
do we get in at 8-10? i don't think so
11-7 HERE WE COME.
12-6*
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2014, 08:27:35 PM
do we get in at 9-9?LOCK
Post by: MakeItRain on February 25, 2014, 08:28:37 PM
are we winning at OSU our not, you're confusing medo we get in at 8-10? i don't think so
11-7 HERE WE COME.
Post by: sunny_cat on February 25, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
are we winning at OSU our not, you're confusing medo we get in at 8-10? i don't think so
11-7 HERE WE COME.
Yeah, cause we're definitely not losing a home game.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 25, 2014, 08:30:43 PM
do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
Post by: sunny_cat on February 25, 2014, 08:31:57 PM
do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
Yeah, if we lose our last 3, we'd still probably get in, but not a lock.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2014, 08:33:09 PM
Have you seen how weak the bubble is? A .500 team in the #1 RPI conference, with our wins, is not getting passed over.do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
Post by: scottwildcat on February 25, 2014, 08:33:10 PM
are we winning at OSU our not, you're confusing medo we get in at 8-10? i don't think so
11-7 HERE WE COME.
Forgot our current B12 record. 12-6 HERE WE COME!!!!
Post by: Nick Florences Beard on February 25, 2014, 08:34:42 PM
do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
Yeah, if we lose our last 3, we'd still probably get in, but not a lock.
Good thing it doesn't matter, since we are winning out.
Post by: scottwildcat on February 25, 2014, 08:35:11 PM
do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
Yeah, if we lose our last 3, we'd still probably get in, but not a lock.
Good thing it doesn't matter, since we are winning out.
NFB KNOWS WHATS UP!!
Post by: sunny_cat on February 25, 2014, 08:35:35 PM
do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
Yeah, if we lose our last 3, we'd still probably get in, but not a lock.
Good thing it doesn't matter, since we are winning out.
:surprised:
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on February 25, 2014, 08:41:05 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 25, 2014, 08:42:50 PM
Have you seen how weak the bubble is? A .500 team in the #1 RPI conference, with our wins, is not getting passed over.do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
soft bubble? that doesn't mean anything. The bubble looks like it always does; high majors with RPIs in the 40s-60s with a few bad losses and good wins, with perhaps a key injury or two, and mid-majors with good records but not good wins.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 25, 2014, 09:26:19 PM
Tenn and Mizzou were both 7-7 in the bad SEC and had 1 top 50 win each.
Providence and St Johns each have 10 losses, are 8-7 in the Big East and each has 1 top 50 win
Lunardi had all 4 in before tonight. I would have probably had 3 of those 4 in as of this morning.... and the 3-4 teams barely not making it have just as bad a resume as these 4 teams.
The last 4-6 teams in the NCAA right now are weak. Most, if not all, would not be in the dance most years
Post by: PowercatPat on February 25, 2014, 09:51:40 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2014, 09:52:43 PM
I will try saying this again. We are not close to the bubble. Wont be if we don't win another game.I know, bud. I've been following too. We're in. Playing for seeding now.
Tenn and Mizzou were both 7-7 in the bad SEC and had 1 top 50 win each.
Providence and St Johns each have 10 losses, are 8-7 in the Big East and each has 1 top 50 win
Lunardi had all 4 in before tonight. I would have probably had 3 of those 4 in as of this morning.... and the 3-4 teams barely not making it have just as bad a resume as these 4 teams.
The last 4-6 teams in the NCAA right now are weak. Most, if not all, would not be in the dance most years
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2014, 09:55:14 PM
Post by: Benja on February 25, 2014, 10:12:22 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 25, 2014, 10:16:12 PM
Mizzou will be on the outside looking in after tonight. They're down 18 against UGA right now.
Yep, Mizzou lost by 15 to Ga. St Johns lost at home to Xavier. Both likely out instead of being those last 4-6 sucky teams barely in
Minn got a nice win over Iowa. They are 7-9 in Big 10 now. They are now more deserving that either of those 2.
Post by: pissclams on February 25, 2014, 10:19:37 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on February 25, 2014, 10:24:38 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on February 25, 2014, 11:07:45 PM
LOL like Mizzou even cares about bball anymore.
Judging by tigerboard right now, this is not the case.
Post by: scottwildcat on February 25, 2014, 11:11:03 PM
LOL like Mizzou even cares about bball anymore.
Judging by tigerboard right now, this is not the case.
give it 14 months
Post by: Nick Florences Beard on February 26, 2014, 01:31:11 PM
LOL like Mizzou even cares about bball anymore.
Judging by tigerboard right now, this is not the case.
give it 14 months
Don't be so sure, they think they are elite in all sports. Very meltdown prone fanbase.
So what seed do you guys think we get when we close out the regular season 3-0 and then win 1 or more in the B12 tournament?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 26, 2014, 01:31:55 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 26, 2014, 01:34:54 PM
6 seed
You're rough ridin' high.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 26, 2014, 01:38:15 PM
It would be anywhere from 5-6. We're lying on the 8-9 right now.6 seed
You're rough ridin' high.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 26, 2014, 01:41:18 PM
6 seed
You're rough ridin' high.
In the above scenario, I'm pretty sure we would be 23-10 with 9 wins over top 50 RPI opponents and 3 wins vs top 25 RPI opponents. 6 seed seems very reasonable.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 26, 2014, 01:41:43 PM
Doesn't matter anyways. It's not happening.It would be anywhere from 5-6. We're lying on the 8-9 right now.6 seed
You're rough ridin' high.
Post by: OregonSmock on February 26, 2014, 01:54:02 PM
:tsc:
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 26, 2014, 02:04:59 PM
Lunardi has K-State potentially matching up with Wichita State in the 2nd round of the Midwest region. I would be TSC'ing so hard for K-State if that game were to actually happen. Not even the most butthurt of the butthurt 'tater squad could keep me from TSC'ing my ass off for that one.
:tsc:
You haven't even seen butthurt yet Beems, we're our best when the chips are down. Never say never.
Post by: kstate4life on February 26, 2014, 02:14:23 PM
Cats got some work to do to get out of the 8/9 seed matchup come March. That work could start down at Tech. FWIW, I have Ku as a 2, Isu as a 4, OU and Texas as 6 seeds right now. Baylor at 6-8 probably barely in right now.
Team/Seed Record (Conf) RPI SOS 1-25 26-50 Other stat/comment
______________________________________________________________________________________________
7 UMass 21-5(8-4) 13 44 2-0 4-2 Beat GW and Vcu last 2 gms
7 UConn 21-6(9-5) 26 75 1-1 2-4 Beat Fla, Swept Memphis
7 N Mexico 21-5(12-2) 21 32 2-2 0-0 Beat SD St on Sat
7 Memphis 20-6(10-4) 37 86 0-2 3-4 Only have 4 wins vs top 150 rpi
8 KState 18-9(8-6) 42 42 3-4 3-1 good wins, bad road record
8 Stanford 18-8(9-5) 41 51 1-3 3-4 wins over Ucla and at Uconn
8 VCU 20-7(8-4) 25 49 1-2 2-2 Good win at Virg, split with GW
8 G Wash 20-7(8-5) 30 67 2-3 1-1 Good win over Creighton
9 Ariz St 19-8(8-6) 32 55 1-3 3-2 Beat AZ, but weak non con resume
9 Pitt 20-7(8-6) 33 53 0-6 1-0 Only good win is Stanford
9 SMU 22-6(11-4) 45 165 1-2 3-1 Beat Cincy, Swept UConn. But SOS 165, non con SOS 294
9 Cal 18-9(9-5) 49 47 1-4 2-2 Good win over AZ
Is there a website that lists this top to bottom somewhere?
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 26, 2014, 02:16:24 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 26, 2014, 02:21:29 PM
We'll probably lose to SMU in an 8/9 game.:dubious:
Post by: Tobias on February 26, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
We'll probably lose to SMU in an 8/9 game.
do not want
Post by: chum1 on February 26, 2014, 02:35:41 PM
Post by: Spracne on February 26, 2014, 02:37:46 PM
I'm amazed by how many people take Lunardi's seeding at face value. (Or think they have some special insight into seeding of their own.)
Seems to me that you mean the exact opposite of what you actually said.
Post by: PowercatPat on February 26, 2014, 02:49:13 PM
Cats got some work to do to get out of the 8/9 seed matchup come March. That work could start down at Tech. FWIW, I have Ku as a 2, Isu as a 4, OU and Texas as 6 seeds right now. Baylor at 6-8 probably barely in right now.
Team/Seed Record (Conf) RPI SOS 1-25 26-50 Other stat/comment
______________________________________________________________________________________________
7 UMass 21-5(8-4) 13 44 2-0 4-2 Beat GW and Vcu last 2 gms
7 UConn 21-6(9-5) 26 75 1-1 2-4 Beat Fla, Swept Memphis
7 N Mexico 21-5(12-2) 21 32 2-2 0-0 Beat SD St on Sat
7 Memphis 20-6(10-4) 37 86 0-2 3-4 Only have 4 wins vs top 150 rpi
8 KState 18-9(8-6) 42 42 3-4 3-1 good wins, bad road record
8 Stanford 18-8(9-5) 41 51 1-3 3-4 wins over Ucla and at Uconn
8 VCU 20-7(8-4) 25 49 1-2 2-2 Good win at Virg, split with GW
8 G Wash 20-7(8-5) 30 67 2-3 1-1 Good win over Creighton
9 Ariz St 19-8(8-6) 32 55 1-3 3-2 Beat AZ, but weak non con resume
9 Pitt 20-7(8-6) 33 53 0-6 1-0 Only good win is Stanford
9 SMU 22-6(11-4) 45 165 1-2 3-1 Beat Cincy, Swept UConn. But SOS 165, non con SOS 294
9 Cal 18-9(9-5) 49 47 1-4 2-2 Good win over AZ
Is there a website that lists this top to bottom somewhere?
I wish we could play UMass', UNM's or Memphis' conference schedules. Our seeding would be swapped.
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on February 26, 2014, 02:50:22 PM
Lunardi has K-State potentially matching up with Wichita State in the 2nd round of the Midwest region. I would be TSC'ing so hard for K-State if that game were to actually happen. Not even the most butthurt of the butthurt 'tater squad could keep me from TSC'ing my ass off for that one.
:tsc:
NOTHING that has EVER been posted on the internet better demonstrates the collective fear that phoggie-nation has for the rise of Wichita State basketball than this example by beems.
Well done, sir.
:thumbsup:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 26, 2014, 02:51:50 PM
Post by: Spracne on February 26, 2014, 02:57:37 PM
Post by: Winters on February 26, 2014, 02:59:04 PM
We'll probably lose to SMU in an 8/9 game.I might cry when Nick Russell ends the season :frown:
Post by: CNS on February 26, 2014, 03:02:04 PM
I would love that. Would be a fantastic game.
Also, I hope we are in a diff region.
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on February 26, 2014, 03:05:45 PM
Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Andy would probably rotate over late and just watch Baker dunk, kinda like he did after Sprads blew by Embiid with that sick crossover.
:gocho:
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 26, 2014, 03:07:21 PM
Is there a website that lists this top to bottom somewhere?
There are a couple of sites out there that will show RPI, SOS, records against top 25 and 26-50. I use ESPN for the most part.
For my breakdowns, I look at each team in depth. A top 25 rpi win over New Mexico isn't near as impressive as a top 25 win over Florida or KU.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 26, 2014, 03:09:12 PM
Post by: OregonSmock on February 26, 2014, 03:11:36 PM
Lunardi has K-State potentially matching up with Wichita State in the 2nd round of the Midwest region. I would be TSC'ing so hard for K-State if that game were to actually happen. Not even the most butthurt of the butthurt 'tater squad could keep me from TSC'ing my ass off for that one.
:tsc:
NOTHING that has EVER been posted on the internet better demonstrates the collective fear that phoggie-nation has for the rise of Wichita State basketball than this example by beems.
Well done, sir.
:thumbsup:
If you really think people are worried about "the rise" of Wichita State, you're an even bigger dumbass than previously thought. Only the most butthurt of 'taters would try to portray TSC'ing for K-State as a negative.
Post by: OregonSmock on February 26, 2014, 03:12:36 PM
Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Andy would probably rotate over late and just watch Baker dunk, kinda like he did after Sprads blew by Embiid with that sick crossover.
:gocho:
OMG A GUARD WAS ABLE TO CROSS OVER A 7-FOOT CENTER! LET'S FARM HUMP IT 'TIL INFINITY!!!
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on February 26, 2014, 03:19:22 PM
Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Andy would probably rotate over late and just watch Baker dunk, kinda like he did after Sprads blew by Embiid with that sick crossover.
:gocho:
OMG A GUARD WAS ABLE TO CROSS OVER A 7-FOOT CENTER! LET'S FARM HUMP IT 'TIL INFINITY!!!
:gocho:
Post by: CNS on February 26, 2014, 03:20:41 PM
Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Andy would probably rotate over late and just watch Baker dunk, kinda like he did after Sprads blew by Embiid with that sick crossover.
:gocho:
OMG A GUARD WAS ABLE TO CROSS OVER A 7-FOOT CENTER! LET'S FARM HUMP IT 'TIL INFINITY!!!
This is exactly why YouTube was invented. Exactly.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 26, 2014, 03:22:07 PM
Post by: Spracne on February 26, 2014, 03:23:10 PM
OMG A TOP RATED GUARD BOUNCED IT THROUGH A SLOW WHITE KIDS LEGS. LET'S ROCK CHALK THAT crap TO DEATH! :tsc:
I'm kinda over it.
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on February 26, 2014, 03:25:05 PM
Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Andy would probably rotate over late and just watch Baker dunk, kinda like he did after Sprads blew by Embiid with that sick crossover.
:gocho:
OMG A GUARD WAS ABLE TO CROSS OVER A 7-FOOT CENTER! LET'S FARM HUMP IT 'TIL INFINITY!!!
This is exactly why YouTube was invented. Exactly.
All caps post too, tho.
:Woot:
Post by: TownieCat on February 26, 2014, 03:25:55 PM
Cats got some work to do to get out of the 8/9 seed matchup come March. That work could start down at Tech. FWIW, I have Ku as a 2, Isu as a 4, OU and Texas as 6 seeds right now. Baylor at 6-8 probably barely in right now.
Team/Seed Record (Conf) RPI SOS 1-25 26-50 Other stat/comment
______________________________________________________________________________________________
7 UMass 21-5(8-4) 13 44 2-0 4-2 Beat GW and Vcu last 2 gms
7 UConn 21-6(9-5) 26 75 1-1 2-4 Beat Fla, Swept Memphis
7 N Mexico 21-5(12-2) 21 32 2-2 0-0 Beat SD St on Sat
7 Memphis 20-6(10-4) 37 86 0-2 3-4 Only have 4 wins vs top 150 rpi
8 KState 18-9(8-6) 42 42 3-4 3-1 good wins, bad road record
8 Stanford 18-8(9-5) 41 51 1-3 3-4 wins over Ucla and at Uconn
8 VCU 20-7(8-4) 25 49 1-2 2-2 Good win at Virg, split with GW
8 G Wash 20-7(8-5) 30 67 2-3 1-1 Good win over Creighton
9 Ariz St 19-8(8-6) 32 55 1-3 3-2 Beat AZ, but weak non con resume
9 Pitt 20-7(8-6) 33 53 0-6 1-0 Only good win is Stanford
9 SMU 22-6(11-4) 45 165 1-2 3-1 Beat Cincy, Swept UConn. But SOS 165, non con SOS 294
9 Cal 18-9(9-5) 49 47 1-4 2-2 Good win over AZ
Is there a website that lists this top to bottom somewhere?
I wish we could play UMass', UNM's or Memphis' conference schedules. Our seeding would be swapped.
The only team on that list scares me is New Mexico. If we end facing them in a 8/9 or 7/10 games I'll be pretty :curse:
Post by: Winters on February 26, 2014, 03:36:31 PM
It was hilarious just like how this was funny last year... (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F745766037.gif%3F1363495906&hash=d84864b4708d66966a6244e48bbbddb438865791) Chill :tsc:Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Andy would probably rotate over late and just watch Baker dunk, kinda like he did after Sprads blew by Embiid with that sick crossover.
:gocho:
OMG A GUARD WAS ABLE TO CROSS OVER A 7-FOOT CENTER! LET'S FARM HUMP IT 'TIL INFINITY!!!
Post by: OregonSmock on February 26, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
It was hilarious just like how this was funny last year... (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F745766037.gif%3F1363495906&hash=d84864b4708d66966a6244e48bbbddb438865791) Chill :tsc:Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Andy would probably rotate over late and just watch Baker dunk, kinda like he did after Sprads blew by Embiid with that sick crossover.
:gocho:
OMG A GUARD WAS ABLE TO CROSS OVER A 7-FOOT CENTER! LET'S FARM HUMP IT 'TIL INFINITY!!!
It was awesome, and I'm glad to see Spradling is finally letting the guns loose and playing like a stud. Nice win for K-State in Lubbock last night, by the way.
Post by: ltrain on February 27, 2014, 12:17:08 PM
:don'tcare:
Post by: emawmason on February 27, 2014, 12:21:09 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 27, 2014, 12:22:12 PM
Post by: ednksu on February 27, 2014, 12:27:34 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology:love:Orlando :love:
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 27, 2014, 12:32:17 PM
Post by: Pete on February 27, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2014, 12:40:01 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 27, 2014, 12:41:50 PM
i'm glad we're in and am not going to complain about our seed, pod, or draw. suck it losers.
Just think if we lose in the first round again and what that will do for Team BID. The meltdown would be epic. Is winning the first game and getting destroyed by twenty in the second any better? I want to make the second weekend so bad it hurts. :crossfingers:
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 27, 2014, 12:53:14 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 27, 2014, 01:00:27 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 27, 2014, 01:07:46 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 27, 2014, 01:16:16 PM
It will be interesting to see how such a young team handles the tourney. We might have some deer in the headlight type of performances from a few of them.
probs go all the way.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 27, 2014, 01:17:01 PM
True. That could be a very defining moment for our "most underrated freshman in the nation" Winning a few would be such a good boost for their confidence IMO
A few in the tournament or the rest of the season? LOL if you're talking tourney.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 27, 2014, 01:18:34 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on February 27, 2014, 01:19:04 PM
True. That could be a very defining moment for our "most underrated freshman in the nation" Winning a few would be such a good boost for their confidence IMO
A few in the tournament or the rest of the season? LOL if you're talking tourney.
E8 or bust :excited:
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 27, 2014, 01:20:03 PM
the battered wife syndrome will never leave gE. It's science.
and your sunshine pumping will never stop
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 27, 2014, 01:29:06 PM
Someones gotta bring the zeal. :gocho:the battered wife syndrome will never leave gE. It's science.
and your sunshine pumping will never stop
Post by: Tobias on February 27, 2014, 01:55:37 PM
Post by: wabash909 on February 27, 2014, 02:05:10 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 27, 2014, 02:40:15 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on February 27, 2014, 02:43:32 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 27, 2014, 02:44:05 PM
Beat ISU and we move up to a 7 for the time being imo.
This.
Win our home games and we are in pretty good shape. Beating ISU is a really good win and BU is still a solid win. Beating OSU would be great, but a loss there wouldn't hurt much.
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 27, 2014, 04:13:37 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on February 27, 2014, 09:07:40 PM
I like how Lunardi said during the Tech game that a loss there wouldn't hurt us. It's fun being in an awesome conference! :drool: :emawkid:
Yet we won and he moved us down to a 9 seed.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 27, 2014, 09:22:38 PM
I think some teams that were above us, must of had some very important wins recently. That's the only explanation. Who did Arizona State beat recently?I like how Lunardi said during the Tech game that a loss there wouldn't hurt us. It's fun being in an awesome conference! :drool: :emawkid:
Yet we won and he moved us down to a 9 seed.
Post by: Winters on February 27, 2014, 09:36:09 PM
Post by: OKclone on February 27, 2014, 09:38:36 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 27, 2014, 09:57:13 PM
You guys in or not? I hope you are, but only after a loss to us.This isn't a serious question, is it?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 27, 2014, 10:12:59 PM
Post by: TownieCat on February 27, 2014, 10:25:58 PM
Memphis just lost to Houston. Next...
Ohio St lost to Penn St and Iowa is about to lose to Indiana. A win on Saturday could bump us up a line or two...
And ASU beat Arizona last week.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 27, 2014, 10:52:17 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 27, 2014, 11:24:05 PM
I like how Lunardi said during the Tech game that a loss there wouldn't hurt us. It's fun being in an awesome conference! :drool: :emawkid:
Yet we won and he moved us down to a 9 seed.
Lunardi does this sometimes. Don't sweat it. We could beat Isu and he could have us up to a 7 seed.
If we win on Saturday that is exactly where we will be.... a 7 seed
*Memphis lost to a team whose rpi was higher than 150
*I thought Iowa was weak 6 or solid 7 seed coming into tonight. They are 8-7 after their loss tonight. They have 2 easy home games and at Sparty left. The home wins wont do much since the opponents suck.
Both of those things were good news for us.
Post by: scottwildcat on February 28, 2014, 09:08:49 AM
I like how Lunardi said during the Tech game that a loss there wouldn't hurt us. It's fun being in an awesome conference! :drool: :emawkid:
Yet we won and he moved us down to a 9 seed.
Lunardi does this sometimes. Don't sweat it. We could beat Isu and he could have us up to a 7 seed.
If we win on Saturday that is exactly where we will be.... a 7 seed
*Memphis lost to a team whose rpi was higher than 150
*I thought Iowa was weak 6 or solid 7 seed coming into tonight. They are 8-7 after their loss tonight. They have 2 easy home games and at Sparty left. The home wins wont do much since the opponents suck.
Both of those things were good news for us.
I enjoy having our own resident bracketologist on the board.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 28, 2014, 09:10:35 AM
I like how Lunardi said during the Tech game that a loss there wouldn't hurt us. It's fun being in an awesome conference! :drool: :emawkid:
Yet we won and he moved us down to a 9 seed.
Lunardi does this sometimes. Don't sweat it. We could beat Isu and he could have us up to a 7 seed.
If we win on Saturday that is exactly where we will be.... a 7 seed
*Memphis lost to a team whose rpi was higher than 150
*I thought Iowa was weak 6 or solid 7 seed coming into tonight. They are 8-7 after their loss tonight. They have 2 easy home games and at Sparty left. The home wins wont do much since the opponents suck.
Both of those things were good news for us.
Sorry, but you don't have a clue what seed we'd be after we beat ISU.
Post by: CNS on February 28, 2014, 09:11:13 AM
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 28, 2014, 09:21:17 AM
We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
Actually, tourny is nothing but domestic, neutral-site games. And, we haven't lost one of those yet. so.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2014, 09:23:07 AM
Charlotte, Georgetown. Next...We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
Actually, tourny is nothing but domestic, neutral-site games. And, we haven't lost one of those yet. so.
Post by: scottwildcat on February 28, 2014, 09:25:39 AM
Charlotte, Georgetown. Next...We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
Actually, tourny is nothing but domestic, neutral-site games. And, we haven't lost one of those yet. so.
He used domestic neutral-site attempting to exclude PR
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2014, 09:45:25 AM
Post by: hatingfrancisco on February 28, 2014, 09:51:01 AM
Oh, that's dumb.
No it's not. What's dumb is thinking that the team that lost all those early season games is the same one going into the NCAA's.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2014, 09:52:40 AM
Well, I don't think that either. :don'tcare:Oh, that's dumb.
No it's not. What's dumb is thinking that the team that lost all those early season games is the same one going into the NCAA's.
Post by: Berries and Cream on February 28, 2014, 09:57:33 AM
We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
I would have to look up the article, but I recall the biggest correlation between tourney wins and regular season performance is actually home record, which is weird, but good for us.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 28, 2014, 10:04:53 AM
We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
I would have to look up the article, but I recall the biggest correlation between tourney wins and regular season performance is actually home record, which is weird, but good for us.
I don't care what the article says, all I know is that this K-State team blows when they aren't playing in Bramlage.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2014, 10:06:19 AM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 28, 2014, 10:12:44 AM
:nono: Witchita and New York.
WITCHITA!!!!!!!!!
Post by: XocolateThundarr on February 28, 2014, 10:18:10 AM
:nono: Witchita and New York.
:dubious:
Post by: TownieCat on February 28, 2014, 10:23:26 AM
Fwiw... Records for the top 5 teams in the Big 12 since Nov. 23:
K-State: 17-6
KU: 18-6
ISU: 18-5
UT: 17-7
OU: 16-7
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 28, 2014, 10:26:49 AM
We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
IMHO you can't compare a true road game to a neutral site game. Especially when you consider the crowd intimidation factor that simply can't exist to the same level. I would speculate all our road losses would have different outcomes if they were at a neutral court.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2014, 10:28:22 AM
Post by: BostonPancake on February 28, 2014, 01:42:16 PM
Post by: wiley on February 28, 2014, 02:04:28 PM
I've heard the talking point several times over the past week that the committee will overlook Oklahoma St's losses while Marcus Smart was suspended. I have also heard a few times in the past several weeks that the committee will definitely consider our loss to Northern Colorado. Why?? Gipson was hurt when we played them. No one ever brings that up. Why does OSU get a pass and we don't? Is it because Smart is a much bigger part of their overall team? Or, is it because Northern Colorado is just such a bad loss that not having Gipson available to play should matter?
I'm thinking this, could be wrong, but I'll stick with that.
Post by: chum1 on February 28, 2014, 02:20:27 PM
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 28, 2014, 02:20:43 PM
I've heard the talking point several times over the past week that the committee will overlook Oklahoma St's losses while Marcus Smart was suspended. I have also heard a few times in the past several weeks that the committee will definitely consider our loss to Northern Colorado. Why?? Gipson was hurt when we played them. No one ever brings that up. Why does OSU get a pass and we don't? Is it because Smart is a much bigger part of their overall team? Or, is it because Northern Colorado is just such a bad loss that not having Gipson available to play should matter?
I would say a combination of the two.
Post by: CNS on February 28, 2014, 02:27:36 PM
We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
I would have to look up the article, but I recall the biggest correlation between tourney wins and regular season performance is actually home record, which is weird, but good for us.
I would be really interested in reading such an article.
Post by: CNS on February 28, 2014, 02:30:22 PM
I've heard the talking point several times over the past week that the committee will overlook Oklahoma St's losses while Marcus Smart was suspended. I have also heard a few times in the past several weeks that the committee will definitely consider our loss to Northern Colorado. Why?? Gipson was hurt when we played them. No one ever brings that up. Why does OSU get a pass and we don't? Is it because Smart is a much bigger part of their overall team? Or, is it because Northern Colorado is just such a bad loss that not having Gipson available to play should matter?
It's because Marcus Smart is a national player of the year award watch listee. They want him there for ratings. Tourney is money time for the NCAA. Gotta maximize rev.
Post by: BostonPancake on February 28, 2014, 03:56:13 PM
I've heard the talking point several times over the past week that the committee will overlook Oklahoma St's losses while Marcus Smart was suspended. I have also heard a few times in the past several weeks that the committee will definitely consider our loss to Northern Colorado. Why?? Gipson was hurt when we played them. No one ever brings that up. Why does OSU get a pass and we don't? Is it because Smart is a much bigger part of their overall team? Or, is it because Northern Colorado is just such a bad loss that not having Gipson available to play should matter?
It's because Marcus Smart is a national player of the year award watch listee. They want him there for ratings. Tourney is money time for the NCAA. Gotta maximize rev.
Good point, but I would say if it really is because of ratings it's not because he was a national player of the year listee, but rather because people want to see if he melts down again in a game.
Post by: scottwildcat on March 02, 2014, 01:08:21 AM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 02, 2014, 01:10:39 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2014, 01:23:32 AM
I've been saying for 2 months that we'd sneak up into a 5 seed.
LOL. No surprise. By your recent posts. You have NO CLUE. Let someone else who has a clue post now....
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2014, 01:37:38 AM
Early thoughts say 1-4 seeds....
Fla -- Ariz-- Wich St-- Cuse
Wisc--Virg--Duke--KU
Mich--Nova--Creighton--SDSU
Iowa St--UNC--Mich St-- SLU
5 thru 8 seeds--
Cincy--Ucla--Lville--OU
Kentucky--UConn--Ohio St--Texas
Kstate-- N Mexico-- UMass--Vcu
Iowa--Memphis--Ariz St-- GWash
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 02, 2014, 01:59:11 AM
I've been saying for 2 months that we'd sneak up into a 5 seed.
LOL. No surprise. By your recent posts. You have NO CLUE. Let someone else who has a clue post now....
I'm sorry Powercat Posse but you have me mixed up with another poster. Figure out who and post here http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.0)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 02, 2014, 02:35:43 AM
Joey Brackets has Duke 'Cuse Wisconsin and UVA as 2 seeds tonight. DO NOT WANT. Would prefer Florida WSU or AZ to any of those. Gotta hope we sneak up to the 6 line.
No doubt in my mind we're a 7 seed with Wisconsin being the 2 seed in our bracket.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2014, 02:46:51 AM
I've been saying for 2 months that we'd sneak up into a 5 seed.
LOL. No surprise. By your recent posts. You have NO CLUE. Let someone else who has a clue post now....
I'm sorry Powercat Posse but you have me mixed up with another poster. Figure out who and post here http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.0)
ERII --- "0-3, if we win it will be Baylor"
Also said I had no clue what our seed will be if we beat Isu. That's fine, that's your opinion. You are entitled to that my friend.
Post by: #LIFE on March 02, 2014, 09:13:14 AM
Post by: kim carnes on March 02, 2014, 09:14:38 AM
Joey Brackets has Duke 'Cuse Wisconsin and UVA as 2 seeds tonight. DO NOT WANT. Would prefer Florida WSU or AZ to any of those. Gotta hope we sneak up to the 6 line.
No doubt in my mind we're a 7 seed with Wisconsin being the 2 seed in our bracket.
Frank isn't our coach anymore
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2014, 09:16:56 AM
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
This seems ridiculous to me. 4 Top 25 wins for the Cats. 7 Top 50 wins. 9 Top 100 wins.
Post by: #LIFE on March 02, 2014, 09:19:53 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2014, 09:36:17 AM
It is ridiculous FAN. Of course Palm has Pitt as a 8 seed and they are 10-6 in ACC and have 1 win over anyone in the top 70 (Stanford). Plus a SOS at 87. He also has Memphis 3 seed lines better than us despite only 5 of their 22 wins coming from teams inside the top 145 RPI, plus a 11-5 record in the 8th rated conf. Palm never really has been a very accurate bracketologist anyway.Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
This seems ridiculous to me. 4 Top 25 wins for the Cats. 7 Top 50 wins. 9 Top 100 wins.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2014, 09:41:44 AM
It is ridiculous FAN. Of course Palm has Pitt as a 8 seed and they are 10-6 in ACC and have 1 win over anyone in the top 70 (Stanford). Plus a SOS at 87. He also has Memphis 3 seed lines better than us despite only 5 of their 22 wins coming from teams inside the top 145 RPI, plus a 11-5 record in the 8th rated conf. Palm never really has been a very accurate bracketologist anyway.Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
This seems ridiculous to me. 4 Top 25 wins for the Cats. 7 Top 50 wins. 9 Top 100 wins.
True, but very few bracketologists (http://www.bracketmatrix.com/) have us above the 8 line right now. (granted, many aren't updated yet)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2014, 10:19:33 AM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 02, 2014, 10:58:39 AM
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
would take compared to a 7 in a bracket with 'cuse 'consin 'ke or 'ginia
Post by: Trogdor on March 02, 2014, 11:00:46 AM
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
would take compared to a 7 in a bracket with 'cuse 'consin 'ke or 'ginia
Yeah but if we end up playing WSU, itll be bleeding Kansas up in here
Post by: scottwildcat on March 02, 2014, 11:02:05 AM
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
would take compared to a 7 in a bracket with 'cuse 'consin 'ke or 'ginia
Yeah but if we end up playing WSU, itll be bleeding Kansas up in here
good.
Post by: Trogdor on March 02, 2014, 11:03:57 AM
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
would take compared to a 7 in a bracket with 'cuse 'consin 'ke or 'ginia
Yeah but if we end up playing WSU, itll be bleeding Kansas up in here
good.
Some people want to watch the world burn. scott is some people
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on March 02, 2014, 11:11:27 AM
If we lose @ OSU, beat Baylor, and win one B12 game, we will be a 7 seed or better.
Post by: PowercatPat on March 02, 2014, 03:23:00 PM
28-Vcu; 29-Smu, 30-Mem, 31-AzSt, 32-KSt; 33-Zaga, 34-Gw, 35-Pitt, 36-Stan; 37-Xav, 38-Col, 39-StJoe, 40-Cal; 41-Byu, 42-Bay, 43-OkSt, 44-Ark
I think we should be ahead of those four teams right in front of us.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2014, 04:10:08 PM
Joe Lunardi ?@ESPNLunardi · 3h
28-Vcu; 29-Smu, 30-Mem, 31-AzSt, 32-KSt; 33-Zaga, 34-Gw, 35-Pitt, 36-Stan; 37-Xav, 38-Col, 39-StJoe, 40-Cal; 41-Byu, 42-Bay, 43-OkSt, 44-Ark
I think we should be ahead of those four teams right in front of us.
Yeah, Im surprised he has us as the last 8 seed. Its not in the above tweet but he had Iowa as 24 (or worst 6 seed). I don't get the love for Iowa
* Ksu 10-6 in Big 12. Iowa 9-7 in Big 10. Both teams 20-9 overall
* Ksu 5-5 vs top 50 rpi teams in Big 12. Iowa 3-6 vs top 50 teams in Big 10
* Ksu RPI/SOS was 37 and 42. Iowa is at 45 and 56...... And our non con SOS is 149 while theirs is 247
* Ksu in non con beat Gonz and GW (top 30 wins) and had 1 bad loss, Charlotte (No Col loss wont really hurt cause no Gip).
Iowa in non con beat Xavier (top 50 win), no bad losses, no other top 100 wins.
* Ksu has 9 top 100 wins while Iowa only has 6. Kstate only is 2-6 on road while Iowa is 4-5 (both have 3 wins on neutral court)
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 02, 2014, 04:34:21 PM
Joe Lunardi ?@ESPNLunardi · 3h
28-Vcu; 29-Smu, 30-Mem, 31-AzSt, 32-KSt; 33-Zaga, 34-Gw, 35-Pitt, 36-Stan; 37-Xav, 38-Col, 39-StJoe, 40-Cal; 41-Byu, 42-Bay, 43-OkSt, 44-Ark
I think we should be ahead of those four teams right in front of us.
Beat OSU and Baylor and we will be. Pretty simple.
Post by: Pete on March 02, 2014, 06:26:53 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on March 02, 2014, 06:52:38 PM
Something like:
Iowa 7
Kansas St. 10
Michigan/Creighton/Wichita St 2
Post by: scottwildcat on March 02, 2014, 07:06:40 PM
I really hope if we aren't a 6 or 7 that they drop us to a 10 to screw over a weak 7 and then we hope for the best on the 2 line.
Something like:
Iowa 7
Kansas St. 10
Michigan/Creighton/Wichita St 2
would love that.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2014, 08:17:21 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2014, 09:00:47 PM
Team/Seed Record (Conf) RPI SOS 1-25 26-50 Other stat/comment
______________________________________________________________________________________________
6 Texas 21-8(10-6) 25 33 3-5 4-3 Tcu and at Tech left
6 Kentucky 21-8(11-5) 17 6 0-3 3-1 Only 3 top 50 wins, but 13 vs top 100
6 UConn 23-6(11-5) 26 65 2-1 2-4 Beat Fla, Cincy, Swept memphis
6 Ohio St 22-8(9-8) 19 16 1-2 3-2 Good road wins at Wisc/Iowa. No great win in non con
7 KState 20-9(10-6) 37 42 4-4 3-1 7 top 50 wins, road record is biggest con
7 N Mexico 23-5(14-2) 20 39 2-2 0-0 SDSU, Cincy good wins. Only 5 of 23 wins vs top 100
7 UMass 22-6(9-5) 13 50 2-0 3-2 Won only meeting with VCU, GW. Beat N Mex
7 VCU 22-7(10-4) 15 36 2-2 2-2 Beat SLU on Sat. Also have win at Virg. Split with GW
8 Iowa 20-9(9-7) 45 56 2-7 2-1 Beat Mich, OhioSt. Last 4 games - 3 losses, barely beat lowly purdue
8 Memphis 21-7(11-5) 33 66 0-2 4-4 Only 5 wins vs top 140. Last week, Good win (Lvile) and Bad loss to Houston(rpi 147)
8 Ariz St 21-8(10-6) 29 44 1-3 3-2 Good win over AZ. Won 8 of last 11 conf games
8 G Wash 21-7(9-5) 28 74 2-3 0-2 Wins over Creighton, split with VCU
The 1 seeds -- Arizona Florida Wich St Syracuse
The 2 seeds -- Wiscy KU Duke Virginia
The 3 seeds -- Mich Nova Creighton SD St
The 4 seeds -- Iowa St Mich St UNC Cincy
The 5 seeds -- SLU Ucla OU Lville
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2014, 09:10:15 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 02, 2014, 09:25:17 PM
Post by: TownieCat on March 02, 2014, 09:37:00 PM
we are going to get a 6 yo.
If we get 2 more wins, then yes.
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on March 02, 2014, 09:38:19 PM
This has been a fun team to watch and could/should be very good in the next couple years. Regardless of seed, I just hope we get a favorable matchup(s) bracket wise that will allow us to win a game or two.
Post by: scottwildcat on March 02, 2014, 09:38:43 PM
we are going to get a 6 yo.
If we get 2 more wins, then yes.
what happens if we win 4? because that is the minimum we are going to win preNCAAT.
Post by: kstofer on March 02, 2014, 10:47:40 PM
we are going to get a 6 yo.
If we get 2 more wins, then yes.
what happens if we win 4? because that is the minimum we are going to win preNCAAT.
If I knew that would happen I would root against us tomorrow so hard.
Post by: sunny_cat on March 03, 2014, 12:12:29 AM
we are going to get a 6 yo.
If we get 2 more wins, then yes.
what happens if we win 4? because that is the minimum we are going to win preNCAAT.
If I knew that would happen I would root against us tomorrow so hard.
:thumbs:
Post by: scottwildcat on March 03, 2014, 09:05:37 AM
7 seed
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 03, 2014, 09:45:56 AM
Post by: SdK on March 03, 2014, 09:52:30 AM
The way I'm seeing it is 5 wins (making us Big 12 tourney champs) gets us a 4 seed, 4 wins and runner up gets us a 5 seed, 3 wins and only 1 loss gets us the 6, 2 wins gets us a 7, 1 win gets us an 8 or 9 and, no wins gets us a 10 or 11.
:thumbs:
Post by: PowercatPat on March 03, 2014, 09:53:16 AM
http://tw.nbcsports.com/K9S
7 seed
They have Tenn and Mizzou in the tourney.
:'bye cruel world:
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 03, 2014, 10:01:38 AM
http://tw.nbcsports.com/K9S
7 seed
They have Tenn and Mizzou in the tourney.
:'bye cruel world:
I also don't see how KU gets a 1 at this point. Worst 1 seed ever? :dunno:
Post by: TownieCat on March 03, 2014, 10:39:11 AM
http://tw.nbcsports.com/K9S
7 seed
They have Tenn and Mizzou in the tourney.
:'bye cruel world:
I also don't see how KU gets a 1 at this point. Worst 1 seed ever? :dunno:
2000 Michigan St was a 1 seed despite 7 losses.
And if WSU gets a 1 KU won't even be the worst 1 seed in this tournament.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 03, 2014, 10:53:57 AM
http://tw.nbcsports.com/K9S
7 seed
They have Tenn and Mizzou in the tourney.
:'bye cruel world:
I also don't see how KU gets a 1 at this point. Worst 1 seed ever? :dunno:
2000 Michigan St was a 1 seed despite 7 losses.
And if WSU gets a 1 KU won't even be the worst 1 seed in this tournament.
Yeah, I'm sure KU is really better than an undefeated team that nearly won it all last year. :flush:
Post by: #LIFE on March 03, 2014, 10:55:29 AM
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
Lunardi the same just swapping 8-9 with Pitt
Post by: kslim on March 03, 2014, 11:05:08 AM
stats come from twitter fwiw
Post by: Panjandrum on March 03, 2014, 11:26:08 AM
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
Lunardi the same just swapping 8-9 with Pitt
Jerry Palm is not very good at his job and has never been (for that matter).
Post by: AbeFroman on March 03, 2014, 11:43:04 AM
This guy has us as a solid 7 :gocho:
Post by: kso_FAN on March 03, 2014, 11:43:43 AM
the majority of the talking heads want to throw out charlotte and northern colorado so i hope that happens, i have us as a 8 with a win tonight and saturday giving us a 6. the funny thing is we will have a great chance against another top 25 rpi win next week and there are not too many teams that can boast 7 wins against the top 25 in a season historically
stats come from twitter fwiw
I've come to the conclusion that there is only so much you can throw out. Most rational people can clearly see we are a better team than the one that lost to those teams. In that way those games can be overlooked.
However they still effect our ratings to an extent and we still have 9 losses. We aren't looked at as a 20-7 team as if those games didn't happen. And when comparing teams that comes into play. Throw in our poor road record and our high number of quality wins (which is really good) unfortunately carries less weight than it should.
At the end of the day those two losses will cost us at least one seed line and maybe two, even if everyone wants to say they are thrown out.
Post by: #LIFE on March 03, 2014, 11:47:10 AM
Post by: kslim on March 03, 2014, 11:49:27 AM
im obviously no bracketologist _fence but i would think our road woes against even/sub par teams would be more of a talking point than losing two early season games with two major (i know jevon blah blah) contributors out. I was listening to fox sports radio this weekend during the VCU game and they were gushing GW and that was early in the year as well. I mean kstate is always a wild card in these things because people forget about us but that early season losses/wins against the zags and GW should balance each other out. they will look at who we have beat since december and we will get a pretty damn good seed.the majority of the talking heads want to throw out charlotte and northern colorado so i hope that happens, i have us as a 8 with a win tonight and saturday giving us a 6. the funny thing is we will have a great chance against another top 25 rpi win next week and there are not too many teams that can boast 7 wins against the top 25 in a season historically
stats come from twitter fwiw
I've come to the conclusion that there is only so much you can throw out. Most rational people can clearly see we are a better team than the one that lost to those teams. In that way those games can be overlooked.
However they still effect our ratings to an extent and we still have 9 losses. We aren't looked at as a 20-7 team as if those games didn't happen. And when comparing teams that comes into play. Throw in our poor road record and our high number of quality wins (which is really good) unfortunately carries less weight than it should.
At the end of the day those two losses will cost us at least one seed line and maybe two, even if everyone wants to say they are thrown out.
Post by: TownieCat on March 03, 2014, 12:31:44 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 03, 2014, 12:34:51 PM
I think it's a combination of them and the road problems. Having success away from home would have erased those early loss concerns imo. If we pull out those 2 W's @Texas and @Baylor I think we're talking about the 4/5 line right now.
Post by: PowercatPat on March 03, 2014, 12:36:33 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/featured/ncaab/bigboard/
This guy has us as a solid 7 :gocho:
Ohio State as a 6 seed? No way.
Post by: 'taterblast on March 03, 2014, 02:13:29 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 03, 2014, 02:19:32 PM
i'd party pretty hard for a 7 seed.
Why settle for a 7 when a 6 is available?
Post by: 'taterblast on March 03, 2014, 02:20:49 PM
i'd party pretty hard for a 7 seed.
Why settle for a 7 when a 6 is available?
my face would fall off from partying if we got a 6 seed
Post by: kslim on March 03, 2014, 02:27:22 PM
tournament looks pretty pud city this year after the first 6-8 overall seeds a 5/6/7 seed is huge this yeari'd party pretty hard for a 7 seed.
Why settle for a 7 when a 6 is available?
my face would fall off from partying if we got a 6 seed
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 03, 2014, 03:08:23 PM
We did not play a true road game in the non con. We played 5 neutral court games. So most teams have more road games than we do. That said, 2-6 is not a good road record. Iowa is 4-5, Ohio St 5-5, Texas 5-5, UK is 5-4. Those are 4 teams in good conf who are between 6 and 8 on the seed line. It helps that we won 3 games on neutral courts. However this is still gonna cost us a few spots on the "S-curve ranking system" If we lose tonight, win on Sat we will be 21-10. If we were 21-10 and had a 4-5 road record..... I would guess our S-curve ranking would probably be 4-5 spots higher (So instead of being #28 we might be #23-24 in the pecking order)
Charlotte was a bad loss. Having 1 bad loss is not terrible. Of course 0 is better. Of the 11 other teams I have in the 5-7 seed line.... 9 of those 11 have a loss to a team 100 or higher in the RPI (Ohio St and Umass have 2 losses). Texas, Lville have no bad losses
The good news for us is, good wins are more important to the committee than a bad loss. Back in 2004, that was the case, but good wins are more valued today than they use to be. Being in the #1 conference also is a very good thing.
1) 2 wins in the Non-Con over top 30 teams, both of which will be in the NCAA touney
2) A 5-5 record vs top 50 teams in the conference. Would be 6-6 if we split these last 2 games
3) 10-6 current record in the #1 rated conf. Everyone knows Big 12 is good and 7 of the 10 are likely in the field as of today
4) So 12 of our 18 conf games appear to be against top 50 teams who are tourney bound. Big 10 is 2nd best conf. Iowa will play 10 of 18 and Ohio St will play 8 of 18 games vs conf teams who are top 50 (and in the tourney right now)
All 4 of those things are real postives for our resume. If we were in a battle for a 3 or 4 seed like last year, all but the 10-6 conf record would have been nice positives to have. But hey.... we are not fighting for a 3/4 seed. We are fighting to get to a 6/7 seed.
Post by: Trim on March 03, 2014, 03:23:37 PM
Post by: Pete on March 03, 2014, 03:40:58 PM
Post by: Pete on March 03, 2014, 03:42:36 PM
I hope the only data the committee has regarding teams being less than full strength during losses is from our losses to north colorado and charlotte.
Yes, this would be ideal.
Post by: captaincrap on March 03, 2014, 05:01:16 PM
I hope the only data the committee has regarding teams being less than full strength during losses is from our losses to north colorado and charlotte.
You have your wish. As a general rule, the committee has said "missing players" is taken into consideration for losses not wins. This was brought up recently when Oregon beat UCLA who was missing two starters due to suspension. Oregon gets full credit for the win, UCLA will have the missing players taken into consideration for seeding.
The committee focuses on the team you have available to play in the tourney, and how that roster performed. That's why losses when not at full strength get treated differently, because that's not the team you're fielding currently. It's why losing a player before the tourney hurts seeding, because the team that built the resume isn't the same one playing in the tourney.
Post by: AndrewVonLintel on March 03, 2014, 06:08:28 PM
To do a valid bracket prediction you have to set up projections for every team in the bracket.
With three straight losses, Kansas State could be sitting on a 11 or 12 seed.
With 5 straight wins, Kansas State could be sitting on a 4 Seed maybe even a 3.
I am of the opinion we will go 2-2 and be a 6 seed. Our RPI should look good as we should get another top 50 RPI win and I don't think we will have another opportunity at a bad loss.
One thing that would really help us is to look good tonight on Big Monday. This will be a highly watched game by the committee as it is the only thing on and both teams have weird resumes.
OSU without Smart for three games (losses)
KSU road vs. home record.
Post by: Trim on March 03, 2014, 06:29:10 PM
I hope the only data the committee has regarding teams being less than full strength during losses is from our losses to north colorado and charlotte.
You have your wish. As a general rule, the committee has said "missing players" is taken into consideration for losses not wins. This was brought up recently when Oregon beat UCLA who was missing two starters due to suspension. Oregon gets full credit for the win, UCLA will have the missing players taken into consideration for seeding.
The committee focuses on the team you have available to play in the tourney, and how that roster performed. That's why losses when not at full strength get treated differently, because that's not the team you're fielding currently. It's why losing a player before the tourney hurts seeding, because the team that built the resume isn't the same one playing in the tourney.
Re-read my post but put emphasis on the word "our."
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 03, 2014, 06:44:02 PM
In general I believe that the bracketologists are not very good at their jobs. Their brackets will change a lot in the next two weeks. In the last couple of days you will see Lunardi's bracket magically change as he starts getting insider info from friends inside the committee.
To do a valid bracket prediction you have to set up projections for every team in the bracket.
With three straight losses, Kansas State could be sitting on a 11 or 12 seed.
With 5 straight wins, Kansas State could be sitting on a 4 Seed maybe even a 3.
I am of the opinion we will go 2-2 and be a 6 seed. Our RPI should look good as we should get another top 50 RPI win and I don't think we will have another opportunity at a bad loss.
One thing that would really help us is to look good tonight on Big Monday. This will be a highly watched game by the committee as it is the only thing on and both teams have weird resumes.
OSU without Smart for three games (losses)
KSU road vs. home record.
Lunardi and Palm are really the only 2 that get national pub. I have said for several years that Palm is way worse than Joe. He will just have 4-5 teams that make me go :dunno:. Earlier this year, he had some team (cant remember who) jump up 6 spots in seeding from his previous week. That right there tells me enough
There is always 1-3 teams that end up getting a better seed that most experts predict and 1-3 teams that get a worse seed. Oregon getting a 12 was very shocking last year. Vcu got a 5 seed and no one had them that high.
Right now, I think the team who is 23 on the S curve is not far away from team 30. Ksu going into tonight should be in there somewhere (between 23-30) But I think the separation between the teams who are 24-25 and the teams that are 15-16 is a pretty good margain. Likwise I don't think Ksu is really close to overall #37, which would be the best 10 seed
* They don't use an S curve anymore but they do rank the the teams.... so I call it the S curve rank
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 03, 2014, 09:18:49 PM
Post by: Nick Florences Beard on March 03, 2014, 10:20:04 PM
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on March 03, 2014, 10:22:22 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 03, 2014, 10:29:41 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 03, 2014, 10:30:51 PM
The fix is in FSD.
You can't wash the stench of validation off these socks
Post by: Nick Florences Beard on March 03, 2014, 10:38:02 PM
Give me the 'ta state bracket or bust.
We can beat them, don't care what anyone else says.
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on March 03, 2014, 10:39:36 PM
:dubious:Give me the 'ta state bracket or bust.
We can beat them, don't care what anyone else says.
Don't bet your farm.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 03, 2014, 11:22:39 PM
KU as a 1 seed with 7 losses and us as a 9 seed with 9 losses doesn't reconcile with me. Aren't most of our "good wins" the same?
No
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 03, 2014, 11:58:43 PM
KU as a 1 seed with 7 losses and us as a 9 seed with 9 losses doesn't reconcile with me. Aren't most of our "good wins" the same?
KU beat Duke and they beat Isu, OU and Baylor twice. And they have the #1 non con SOS to go along with playing 18 games in the best conf
Post by: bones129 on March 04, 2014, 12:02:18 AM
KU as a 1 seed with 7 losses and us as a 9 seed with 9 losses doesn't reconcile with me. Aren't most of our "good wins" the same?
No
Have to agree with MIR.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 04, 2014, 11:36:36 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Post by: #LIFE on March 04, 2014, 11:39:07 AM
WTF?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
And Baylor as a 9 :confused:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 04, 2014, 11:39:37 AM
Oklahoma State too.WTF?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
And Baylor as a 9 :confused:
Post by: 'taterblast on March 04, 2014, 11:47:10 AM
WTF?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
would take, over an 8/9
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 04, 2014, 11:48:36 AM
Oklahoma State too.WTF?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
And Baylor as a 9 :confused:
It's been said before but he's the worst.
Post by: #LIFE on March 04, 2014, 11:51:22 AM
WTF?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
would take, over an 8/9
Yeah, I think we are destined for that line. If we are, give us the Shockers. I don't have much faith right now we can win the 8/9 matchup though, regardless of opponent :frown:
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2014, 11:54:29 AM
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 04, 2014, 12:05:40 PM
Post by: #LIFE on March 04, 2014, 12:09:00 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2014, 12:12:34 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
I think Palm is basically saying we are a lock too, but he under values our good wins because they are all at home.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 04, 2014, 12:14:31 PM
Well then I under value his bracketology. he probably put that thing together at home. :jerk:http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
I think Palm is basically saying we are a lock too, but he under values our good wins because they are all at home.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 04, 2014, 12:19:52 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
If the committee really looks into they would be punishing us for have a really tough road schedule and a couple signal possession games. It would be magnifying an issue that should be a huge deal.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 04, 2014, 12:49:58 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
If the committee really looks into they would be punishing us for have a really tough road schedule and a couple signal possession games. It would be magnifying an issue that should be a huge deal.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: kslim on March 04, 2014, 01:01:10 PM
so beating the zags in wichita doesnt count but beating a team like isu or baylor in kc does? this guy is a jokehttp://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
I think Palm is basically saying we are a lock too, but he under values our good wins because they are all at home.
Post by: Mr Bread on March 04, 2014, 02:19:07 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 04, 2014, 02:33:18 PM
:sdeek:
Post by: Mr Bread on March 04, 2014, 02:44:01 PM
Wowsers! Illinois had a stretch of losing 10 out of 11 games at one point.
:sdeek:
Yeah, but it's a new goddamned day wackys08 and you either get on board or you get rough ridin' run over and that's just the way it is. Toot, toot! #bubbleupagus
Post by: Tobias on March 04, 2014, 02:53:03 PM
luchando naranja y azul pans
:love:
Post by: Winters on March 04, 2014, 03:07:48 PM
yesso beating the zags in wichita doesnt count but beating a team like isu or baylor in kc does?http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
I think Palm is basically saying we are a lock too, but he under values our good wins because they are all at home.
Post by: kslim on March 04, 2014, 03:14:24 PM
but he said neutral court? seems to me they are the same scenario :dunno:yesso beating the zags in wichita doesnt count but beating a team like isu or baylor in kc does?http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
I think Palm is basically saying we are a lock too, but he under values our good wins because they are all at home.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 04, 2014, 03:15:17 PM
:thumbs: :Woot:Wowsers! Illinois had a stretch of losing 10 out of 11 games at one point.
:sdeek:
Yeah, but it's a new goddamned day wackys08 and you either get on board or you get rough ridin' run over and that's just the way it is. Toot, toot! #bubbleupagus
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2014, 03:16:38 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 04, 2014, 03:19:44 PM
Wowsers! Illinois had a stretch of losing 10 out of 11 games at one point.
:sdeek:
Yeah, but it's a new goddamned day wackys08 and you either get on board or you get rough ridin' run over and that's just the way it is. Toot, toot! #bubbleupagus
Have fun in the NIT, loser.
Post by: Mr Bread on March 04, 2014, 03:34:51 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on March 04, 2014, 03:36:50 PM
Good luck Breads!
Currently kp #59 (and rising)! :eek:
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
Good luck Breads!
Currently kp #59 (and rising)! :eek:
The last 6 games had ridiculously slow pace with great defense the last four. It's almost a different team style wise.
Post by: Mr Bread on March 04, 2014, 04:09:07 PM
The young bloods have really started to figure it out on defense and have been nails on offense. The starting lineup is now all guys that return next year. Exciting for the future potentially. They are very confident.
Post by: pissclams on March 04, 2014, 04:27:40 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on March 04, 2014, 04:43:36 PM
nails on offense, eff ya!
You should see the dossies I've worked up on these young bloods. Under the category of Nails? they each have six stars out of a total of six stars (I'm working from a six star system). :eek: :bball: #wherethehammersat
Post by: pissclams on March 04, 2014, 05:16:04 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on March 04, 2014, 06:09:07 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 04, 2014, 06:57:43 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2014, 08:09:18 PM
KU as a 1 seed with 7 losses and us as a 9 seed with 9 losses doesn't reconcile with me. Aren't most of our "good wins" the same?
KU beat Duke and they beat Isu, OU and Baylor twice. And they have the #1 non con SOS to go along with playing 18 games in the best conf
Yeah, I get that. Just struggling with the diff between a 1 seed and a 9 being road wins at isu and ou. The point being, if they're a 1 surely were a 5 or a 6. Or if we're a 9 how the eff are they a 1.
Our SoS is in the 20s out of 300+, is that substantively different than 1 of 300+?
How can a team with 7 losses lay claim to a higher seed than teams with 3 losses who beat them? RPI is fine, but shouldn't be the end all be all of the NCAA tournament. 8 years or so ago Missouri State was a top 30 RPI and didn't get an invite. This year RPI is all of the sudden gospel. Dumb
Post by: Spracne on March 04, 2014, 08:13:35 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2014, 08:17:44 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 04, 2014, 08:22:08 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2014, 08:34:26 PM
I guess I forgot that some people think 'reconcile' is a brainy word. Also forgot that FSD thinks anyone should GAF about what does or does not 'reconcile' with him. Look up games played and wins against RPI top 25, top 50, top 100, etc. The answers you seek are contained therein.
Its only a brainy word if you don't know what it means. This is why I'm puzzled as to a)why you don't thinks its brainy, and yet b) clearly don't know what it means
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2014, 08:40:28 PM
1) when was the last time a 7 (8 or 9) loss team was a 1 seed?
2) what have past #1 RPI sos teams been seeded?
Post by: Spracne on March 04, 2014, 08:56:13 PM
1.) When was the last time you got your ass kissed?
2.) When was the last time you got your dick sucked?
I suspect the answers to these questions are the same as above - rarely, if ever.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2014, 08:59:06 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2014, 09:03:55 PM
I'm still trying to reconcile the following 2 queries:
1.) When was the last time you got your ass kissed?
2.) When was the last time you got your dick sucked?
I suspect the answers to these questions are the same as above - rarely, if ever.
1) delete account
2) go to scout.com
3) create user profile "spracne"
4) continue acting like a rough ridin' butthurt hillbilly
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 04, 2014, 09:04:11 PM
With Cuse loss tonight. I think KU/Wisc are the best 2 candidates to be the 1 seed Cuse just gave up. Some peeps also like Duke... but here is why I would say no right now=
KU = 7 losses, 12 wins vs top 50, RPI 3, SOS 1
Wis= 5 losses, 8 wins vs top 50, RPI 5, SOS 2
Duke=6 losses, 5 wins vs top 50, RPI 8, SOS 9
Post by: Spracne on March 04, 2014, 09:09:49 PM
I'm still trying to reconcile the following 2 queries:
1.) When was the last time you got your ass kissed?
2.) When was the last time you got your dick sucked?
I suspect the answers to these questions are the same as above - rarely, if ever.
1) delete account
2) go to scout.com
3) create user profile "spracne"
4) continue acting like a rough ridin' butthurt hillbilly
FSD doesn't like it when other people act like total dickholes towards him :ROFL: it's ok, FSD, I'm only joking. Let's reconcile.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2014, 09:12:59 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 04, 2014, 09:17:23 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2014, 09:18:20 PM
Mich St was a 1 seed in 2000 with 7 losses. That is the last time (and maybe only time)
With Cuse loss tonight. I think KU/Wisc are the best 2 candidates to be the 1 seed Cuse just gave up. Some peeps also like Duke... but here is why I would say no right now=
KU = 7 losses, 12 wins vs top 50, RPI 3, SOS 1
Wis= 5 losses, 8 wins vs top 50, RPI 5, SOS 2
Duke=6 losses, 5 wins vs top 50, RPI 8, SOS 9
What about 8 or 9 losses?
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2014, 09:20:37 PM
#BeemsPost
Stop being a rough ridin' idiot, there are like 5 posters here who don't already know you suck, you could hang on to that
Post by: Spracne on March 04, 2014, 09:27:00 PM
#BeemsPost
Stop being a rough ridin' idiot, there are like 5 posters here who don't already know you suck, you could hang on to that
Say butthurt again
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 04, 2014, 09:29:03 PM
Mich St was a 1 seed in 2000 with 7 losses. That is the last time (and maybe only time)
With Cuse loss tonight. I think KU/Wisc are the best 2 candidates to be the 1 seed Cuse just gave up. Some peeps also like Duke... but here is why I would say no right now=
KU = 7 losses, 12 wins vs top 50, RPI 3, SOS 1
Wis= 5 losses, 8 wins vs top 50, RPI 5, SOS 2
Duke=6 losses, 5 wins vs top 50, RPI 8, SOS 9
What about 8 or 9 losses?
To my knowledge..... 7 is the most. And I think 2000 is only year 7 losses got one
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2014, 09:33:53 PM
#BeemsPost
Stop being a rough ridin' idiot, there are like 5 posters here who don't already know you suck, you could hang on to that
Say butthurt again
I feel like a "thanks lukene" is owed here
Post by: Rock Lobster on March 04, 2014, 10:09:52 PM
Mich St was a 1 seed in 2000 with 7 losses. That is the last time (and maybe only time)
With Cuse loss tonight. I think KU/Wisc are the best 2 candidates to be the 1 seed Cuse just gave up. Some peeps also like Duke... but here is why I would say no right now=
KU = 7 losses, 12 wins vs top 50, RPI 3, SOS 1
Wis= 5 losses, 8 wins vs top 50, RPI 5, SOS 2
Duke=6 losses, 5 wins vs top 50, RPI 8, SOS 9
What about 8 or 9 losses?
To my knowledge..... 7 is the most. And I think 2000 is only year 7 losses got one
2001 Illinois had 7 losses
2012 Michigan State had 7 losses (Mizzou fans were pissed with only 4 losses, as a result they really took it out on Norfolk)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2014, 10:35:08 PM
Mich St was a 1 seed in 2000 with 7 losses. That is the last time (and maybe only time)
With Cuse loss tonight. I think KU/Wisc are the best 2 candidates to be the 1 seed Cuse just gave up. Some peeps also like Duke... but here is why I would say no right now=
KU = 7 losses, 12 wins vs top 50, RPI 3, SOS 1
Wis= 5 losses, 8 wins vs top 50, RPI 5, SOS 2
Duke=6 losses, 5 wins vs top 50, RPI 8, SOS 9
What about 8 or 9 losses?
To my knowledge..... 7 is the most. And I think 2000 is only year 7 losses got one
2001 Illinois had 7 losses
2012 Michigan State had 7 losses (Mizzou fans were pissed with only 4 losses, as a result they really took it out on Norfolk)
What seed did the 9 loss teams in their conferences "earn"?
Post by: #LIFE on March 04, 2014, 11:29:31 PM
Have you watched Syracuse this year? Yeah, they're good, but not a team I'm terrified of playing.
:whistle1:
Post by: #LIFE on March 05, 2014, 08:09:23 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2014, 08:15:15 AM
So Iowa State has 1 more conference road win than us and is being projected as a 3 seed. Is there that big of a difference between 2-7 and 3-6?
They are benefiting for going undefeated in the OOC with 2 really good wins. And they should.
Post by: TownieCat on March 05, 2014, 08:34:09 AM
So Iowa State has 1 more conference road win than us and is being projected as a 3 seed. Is there that big of a difference between 2-7 and 3-6?
They are benefiting for going undefeated in the OOC with 2 really good wins. And they should.
The win @BYU was big for them.
However, I'd much rather have a win over the #2 RPI team* at home than a road win at BYU or OSU.
*Even though 6 other teams also boast this win and it is kind of watered down.
Post by: TownieCat on March 05, 2014, 08:36:01 AM
Mich St was a 1 seed in 2000 with 7 losses. That is the last time (and maybe only time)
With Cuse loss tonight. I think KU/Wisc are the best 2 candidates to be the 1 seed Cuse just gave up. Some peeps also like Duke... but here is why I would say no right now=
KU = 7 losses, 12 wins vs top 50, RPI 3, SOS 1
Wis= 5 losses, 8 wins vs top 50, RPI 5, SOS 2
Duke=6 losses, 5 wins vs top 50, RPI 8, SOS 9
IMO if the three of these teams win out Wisc is the most deserving of a 1 seed.
Post by: yoman on March 05, 2014, 09:50:57 AM
Post by: PowercatPat on March 05, 2014, 10:26:29 AM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 05, 2014, 10:27:44 AM
Palm is an idiot.
yeah yeah yeah, we know, we talk abut this every other day.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2014, 10:42:58 AM
http://www.bracketmatrix.com
Post by: WildcatNation on March 05, 2014, 10:50:53 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2014, 10:52:46 AM
I think you guys are greatly missing the Northern Colorado and Charlotte losses. Whether Gip played or not a top 6 seed should beat both of those teams by 20. Stop even comparing our record to KU's. They have no bad losses, we have 2 glaring, gross losses.I think you're too fixated on those early season losses and all your hate for all things named oscar.
Post by: Kat Kid on March 05, 2014, 10:58:58 AM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 05, 2014, 11:01:24 AM
Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.
really depends on the two or one is. I firmly believe we have a better chance vs WSU than Wisconsin or Duke.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2014, 11:05:17 AM
Everybody thinks we have a really great shot vs Witchita St and I have no clue why? I get that their schedule sucked, but they're really rough ridin' good. I think if this team wins one game in the tourney, the season was a success.Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.
really depends on the two or one is. I firmly believe we have a better chance vs WSU than Wisconsin or Duke.
Post by: Winters on March 05, 2014, 11:05:39 AM
Post by: #LIFE on March 05, 2014, 11:08:52 AM
Everybody thinks we have a really great shot vs Witchita St and I have no clue why? I get that their schedule sucked, but they're really rough ridin' good. I think if this team wins one game in the tourney, the season was a success.Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.
really depends on the two or one is. I firmly believe we have a better chance vs WSU than Wisconsin or Duke.
Probably would get beat, but it would make for some great cat-squawk-shock 3-way bbs'n :popcorn:
Post by: OK_Cat on March 05, 2014, 11:23:12 AM
Everybody thinks we have a really great shot vs Witchita St and I have no clue why? I get that their schedule sucked, but they're really rough ridin' good. I think if this team wins one game in the tourney, the season was a success.Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.
really depends on the two or one is. I firmly believe we have a better chance vs WSU than Wisconsin or Duke.
is your bandwagon ku girlfriend a wushox fan now?
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 05, 2014, 11:25:28 AM
Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.Depends if you want a better shot at winning one game or two. Beating a 8 or 9 is easier then beating a 7. Beating a 7 and a 2 is easier then beating a 8/9 and a 1.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 05, 2014, 11:26:26 AM
Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.Depends if you want a better shot at winning one game or two. Beating a 8 or 9 is easier then beating a 7. Beating a 7 and a 2 is easier then beating a 8/9 and a 1.
well, you did say speak slowly...
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2014, 11:34:31 AM
Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.Depends if you want a better shot at winning one game or two. Beating a 8 or 9 is easier then beating a 7. Beating a 7 and a 2 is easier then beating a 8/9 and a 1.
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/ncaa-tournament-odds-a-seed-advancing-166169
Post by: #LIFE on March 05, 2014, 11:36:07 AM
Oh crap, we are going to end up playing Wisc in the second round again. If we make it that far.
Yeah, Wisconsin the 2nd round in Milwaukee would be outstanding :goodbyecruelworld:
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 05, 2014, 11:37:07 AM
Post by: ksufan44 on March 05, 2014, 11:38:15 AM
Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.Depends if you want a better shot at winning one game or two. Beating a 8 or 9 is easier then beating a 7. Beating a 7 and a 2 is easier then beating a 8/9 and a 1.
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/ncaa-tournament-odds-a-seed-advancing-166169
A little outdated, doesn't include FGCU being a 15 seed into the Sweet 16. Actually, none of last year's tourney got incorporated into their stats. Interesting stuff nonetheless
Post by: Cire on March 05, 2014, 11:41:42 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2014, 11:42:15 AM
Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.Depends if you want a better shot at winning one game or two. Beating a 8 or 9 is easier then beating a 7. Beating a 7 and a 2 is easier then beating a 8/9 and a 1.
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/ncaa-tournament-odds-a-seed-advancing-166169
A little outdated, doesn't include FGCU being a 15 seed into the Sweet 16. Actually, none of last year's tourney got incorporated into their stats. Interesting stuff nonetheless
Yeah, I just found it quickly, still pretty good even if it's missing a couple of years.
Post by: Cire on March 05, 2014, 11:47:24 AM
would take.
Post by: scottwildcat on March 05, 2014, 11:48:18 AM
Everybody thinks we have a really great shot vs Witchita St and I have no clue why? I get that their schedule sucked, but they're really rough ridin' good. I think if this team wins one game in the tourney, the season was a success.Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.
really depends on the two or one is. I firmly believe we have a better chance vs WSU than Wisconsin or Duke.
I don't think we beat WSU I the Ro32 but I do think we beat them more times out of 100 than Duke or Wisconsin.
Post by: Kat Kid on March 05, 2014, 12:12:31 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2014, 12:20:19 PM
That's fair.Everybody thinks we have a really great shot vs Witchita St and I have no clue why? I get that their schedule sucked, but they're really rough ridin' good. I think if this team wins one game in the tourney, the season was a success.Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.
really depends on the two or one is. I firmly believe we have a better chance vs WSU than Wisconsin or Duke.
I don't think we beat WSU I the Ro32 but I do think we beat them more times out of 100 than Duke or Wisconsin.
Post by: Winters on March 05, 2014, 12:32:49 PM
The big 12 tourney is much more of a neutral court game than say the game in Wichita against the Zags, yes, imo.but he said neutral court? seems to me they are the same scenario :dunno:yesso beating the zags in wichita doesnt count but beating a team like isu or baylor in kc does?http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
I think Palm is basically saying we are a lock too, but he under values our good wins because they are all at home.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 05, 2014, 12:50:36 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 05, 2014, 12:51:15 PM
People putting us at a 10 is not unusual though, but most have us as 8 or 9.of the peeps who updated the brackets, we have a handful of them who had us at 6/7 seed and about the same who had us as a 10/11. People just need to quit worrying about what Palm thinks. If ok st losses in Ames, their road record in conf will be 2-7 just like us. He had baylor as a 9 too. They went 1-7 vs ku/isu/OU/UT ...the 4 highest rated teams. We went 4-4.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com
If Osu and Baylor lose on road this weekend .... Osu will be 3-7 on road (beat rpi 185 USF along with WV TCU) Baylor will be 3-6 on road (OK ST, WV and Tcu)
Post by: CatintheLou on March 05, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
We won't know until the brackets are released, but I doubt there will be a significant difference between 7, 8, or 9s. Of course, there might also not be much difference between a 1 or 2. Depends on who we get. So whatever, let's just get the highest seed we can get.
The difference in being a 7 instead of an 8 or 9 is a 2nd round game against Arizona or Florida that I deem totally un-winnable compared to a Nova/Duke/Wisky that is maybe not quite as totally un-winnable.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 05, 2014, 01:42:47 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2014, 01:43:35 PM
It doesn't matter because we aren't beating any of the 1 or 2 seeds. Good grief.It still beats the crap out of winning the NIT! :peek: :emawkid:
Post by: pissclams on March 05, 2014, 02:21:27 PM
It doesn't matter because we aren't beating any of the 1 or 2 seeds. Good grief.
w/o embiid, ku is putty in oscar's hands.
in his hands.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 05, 2014, 02:24:11 PM
It doesn't matter because we aren't beating any of the 1 or 2 seeds. Good grief.
w/o embiid, ku is putty in oscar's hands.
in his hands.
"puddy"
Post by: kstate4life on March 05, 2014, 04:56:15 PM
It doesn't matter because we aren't beating any of the 1 or 2 seeds. Good grief.
Exactly. We need to win out to get a 6 seed, and anything else doesn't really matter.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2014, 06:39:19 AM
Post by: pissclams on March 06, 2014, 07:39:18 AM
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Note that Baylor, which is seeded ahead of KSU, is still on the bubble because there still is potential for the Bears to take a bad loss.
what does this even mean? baylor's next two games will be against ksu cats or texas/isu, win and they then would either face ku or ou.
palm son your bbs'n is nails, i don't even.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2014, 07:54:24 AM
QuoteNote that Baylor, which is seeded ahead of KSU, is still on the bubble because there still is potential for the Bears to take a bad loss.
what does this even mean? baylor's next two games will be against ksu cats or texas/isu, win and they then would either face ku or ou.
palm son your bbs'n is nails, i don't even.
Yeah, while he finally acknowledged that the Cats aren't (and shouldn't) be on the bubble, he did pull out that gem. Maybe he assumes Baylor will arrange an impromptu scrimmage with TCU next Tuesday before they head to Kansas City.
Post by: #LIFE on March 06, 2014, 08:30:14 AM
Post by: GCJayhawker on March 06, 2014, 08:56:42 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Can't see KSU getting past 'Zona in this one. Also, the Shocks can't be happy about getting Okie St. in the second round.
Post by: pissclams on March 06, 2014, 09:01:25 AM
Latest Palm bracket
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Can't see KSU getting past 'Zona in this one. Also, the Shocks can't be happy about getting Okie St. in the second round.
i would love to play arizona in rd 2.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 06, 2014, 09:02:15 AM
Post by: #LIFE on March 06, 2014, 09:06:13 AM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 06, 2014, 09:08:01 AM
Post by: pissclams on March 06, 2014, 09:11:27 AM
#coffintime
#clownsuits
#RIP
#lap,take1
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2014, 09:13:31 AM
Post by: #LIFE on March 06, 2014, 09:16:10 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2014, 09:17:40 AM
Do you think a W vs. Baylor and a 1st round P66 win gets us a 7 _fan? I'd like to think it does but may depend on opponent in P66 :dunno:
I think it would give us a good shot. The problem is that might be two wins in a row over Baylor, which for some might not carry as much weight.
Post by: Tobias on March 06, 2014, 09:18:38 AM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 06, 2014, 09:41:04 AM
Post by: #LIFE on March 06, 2014, 09:42:55 AM
have not seen a single 'nova game...what is the story on them?
Only game I've watched of them is when Creighton dismantled them
Post by: kslim on March 06, 2014, 09:45:01 AM
have not seen a single 'nova game...what is the story on them?didn't they destroy lil bro in some tourney? Also we would beat zona guys stop being dumb
Post by: scottwildcat on March 06, 2014, 09:46:19 AM
Idk if we beat 'zona but would prefer them to Florida. Don't know where I would rank 'nova.have not seen a single 'nova game...what is the story on them?didn't they destroy lil bro in some tourney? Also we would beat zona guys stop being dumb
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 06, 2014, 09:46:59 AM
have not seen a single 'nova game...what is the story on them?didn't they destroy lil bro in some tourney? Also we would beat zona guys stop being dumb
Have you seen them play? I have, and they're really good. What makes you think we can beat them?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 06, 2014, 10:28:47 AM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 06, 2014, 10:29:35 AM
We have weird fans.
You and I are 2 of the more level headed K-State fans, Fanman. :cheers:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 06, 2014, 10:30:57 AM
True. :emawkid:We have weird fans.
You and I are 2 of the more level headed K-State fans, Fanman. :cheers:
Post by: scottwildcat on March 06, 2014, 10:34:16 AM
7 seed in this south would be fun, the 8 in the south not nearly as much.
Post by: #LIFE on March 06, 2014, 10:36:57 AM
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
7 seed in this south would be fun, the 8 in the south not nearly as much.
I just can't get over the feeling in my gut that we are going to be the 7 in the MW with Wisky as the 2 :bang:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 06, 2014, 10:49:04 AM
Post by: TownieCat on March 06, 2014, 11:13:41 AM
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
7 seed in this south would be fun, the 8 in the south not nearly as much.
I would love to play any of the teams seeded 7-10 here with the exception of New Mexico.
Also, didn't the NCAA change their rules a couple of about how early conference opponents could meet? Can't they meet in the 2nd round now? Would be interesting to see how that plays out if OSU, Baylor, and K-State all end up on the 8/9 line and KU gets a 1.
Post by: PowercatPat on March 06, 2014, 11:14:35 AM
I think WSU is the only 1 seed we'd even have a chance against.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 06, 2014, 11:32:37 AM
Post by: kslim on March 06, 2014, 11:35:50 AM
i have they are the Syracuse of the westhave not seen a single 'nova game...what is the story on them?didn't they destroy lil bro in some tourney? Also we would beat zona guys stop being dumb
Have you seen them play? I have, and they're really good. What makes you think we can beat them?
Post by: PowercatPat on March 06, 2014, 12:09:55 PM
You guys, we've beat a potential #1 seed. Let's not act like it's out of this realm that it could happen again.
You do realize we aren't going to play the 1 seed at home and that we absolutely suck away form Bramlage, right?
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2014, 12:15:55 PM
You guys, we've beat a potential #1 seed. Let's not act like it's out of this realm that it could happen again.
You do realize we aren't going to play the 1 seed at home and that we absolutely suck away form Bramlage, right?
I know you like to repeat this point, and its fair.
But it will be different playing at a neutral site (especially an easy to travel to neutral site like St Louis) than playing on the road. While I don't think we'll play as well as we do at the OOD, I also don't think we'll play as bad as we do in true road games, especially on defense. I think we have a really good shot in the 1st round game, but if we play a 1 seed in the 2nd round it will be tough. Those games aren't impossible, but 8/9s only beat 1s about once every other season.
Post by: Spracne on March 06, 2014, 12:20:09 PM
Post by: Lefty on March 06, 2014, 12:20:23 PM
Post by: Pete on March 06, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
But can your numbers say anything about the size of a team's heart? Like, inches or centimeters?
Heart is measured in crap loads. We have seven crap loads of heart. Maybe eight.
Post by: TownieCat on March 06, 2014, 12:34:49 PM
Last year it seemed like the media was using "the motion offense is so difficult to prepare for" narrative very often with oscar's team. I don't think I've heard it yet this year. I'm hoping this statement actually comes into fruition this year. Especially if we do get past the 8/9 and the 1 seed has a day to prepare.
It was more difficult to prepare for the motion offense last year because we had 5 capable 3FG shooters and this year we only have three. One of those is Shane, and he's only made 7 3s over the last 8 games he's played (4 of those came in 1 half).
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 06, 2014, 01:18:21 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg541%2F696%2Fhhcx.png&hash=d3016c63ccf1469d9f765d1622839f1fc77b0d94)
The SOS are all jacked on that. Espn has some flaws in the system for whatever reason. I look on there a lot and they now have the road/neutral records screwed up if you click on an individual team. They have every team as playing 0 neutral games. For us they have us 3-8 on road and 0-0 in neutral. It wasn't that way all year..... but like I said ESPN has some flaws in their system from time to time
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2014, 01:22:59 PM
The SOS are all jacked on that. Espn has some flaws in the system for whatever reason. I look on there a lot and they now have the road/neutral records screwed up if you click on an individual team. They have every team as playing 0 neutral games. For us they have us 3-8 on road and 0-0 in neutral. It wasn't that way all year..... but like I said ESPN has some flaws in their system from time to time
I thought the SOS looked strange for us and others, the other info still its pretty nice for comparison.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 06, 2014, 02:17:03 PM
Post by: #LIFE on March 06, 2014, 02:19:22 PM
We could land 7 in the dance and see all 7 in the Sw16 depending on the brackets. K-State could very well be a top 10 team. All Big 12 final four? Possibly. I like our chances against anyone on a neutral floor from a different conference.
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Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 06, 2014, 02:21:39 PM
Something that may be getting overlooked is that the Big 12 top to bottom is clearly the strongest conference this year. We could land 7 in the dance and see all 7 in the Sw16 depending on the brackets. K-State could very well be a top 10 team. All Big 12 final four? Possibly. I like our chances against anyone on a neutral floor from a different conference.
Nice bbs'n
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 06, 2014, 02:52:01 PM
The SOS are all jacked on that. Espn has some flaws in the system for whatever reason. I look on there a lot and they now have the road/neutral records screwed up if you click on an individual team. They have every team as playing 0 neutral games. For us they have us 3-8 on road and 0-0 in neutral. It wasn't that way all year..... but like I said ESPN has some flaws in their system from time to time
I thought the SOS looked strange for us and others, the other info still its pretty nice for comparison.
I think the rest of the data (except SOS) looked correct. So yeah, good comparison material I agree
Post by: kstate4life on March 06, 2014, 03:12:42 PM
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
7 seed in this south would be fun, the 8 in the south not nearly as much.
I would love to play any of the teams seeded 7-10 here with the exception of New Mexico.
Also, didn't the NCAA change their rules a couple of about how early conference opponents could meet? Can't they meet in the 2nd round now? Would be interesting to see how that plays out if OSU, Baylor, and K-State all end up on the 8/9 line and KU gets a 1.
I think the rule is that if you play a conference opponent twice in one season, you can't play them in the tourney until at least the sweet 16. So no big 12 match ups until then.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2014, 09:57:32 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 06, 2014, 10:00:20 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on March 07, 2014, 10:43:34 PM
Baylor and George Washington as higher seeds than us.
:'bye cruel world:
Post by: PowercatPat on March 07, 2014, 10:54:34 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 07, 2014, 11:12:14 PM
I know there's not a difference between an 8 and a 9 seed, but it's just the logic of those two being higher seeds that I don't get.Palm is not good at his job. I will continue to say this. Its not just this year. He has been inaccurate for several years. He only gets mentioned nationally because he is CBS main bracket guy
Post by: kim carnes on March 07, 2014, 11:24:55 PM
I read that the past is not a perfect indicator of the future. I also read that there's a first time for everything.
Link?
Post by: husserl on March 09, 2014, 12:26:54 PM
Post by: Pete on March 09, 2014, 12:39:08 PM
http://thepowerrank.com/visual/NCAA_Tournament_Predictions (http://thepowerrank.com/visual/NCAA_Tournament_Predictions)
They have Florida as the most likely 1 seed to reach the final four, and to win it all. And, they have KU, from the same region as Florida, as the most likely 2 seed to reach the final four.
Post by: ksu101 on March 09, 2014, 04:59:16 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on March 09, 2014, 06:51:31 PM
http://thepowerrank.com/visual/NCAA_Tournament_Predictions (http://thepowerrank.com/visual/NCAA_Tournament_Predictions)
I almost didn't click the link. That is really cool.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 09, 2014, 07:11:22 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 09, 2014, 09:21:29 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 09, 2014, 09:53:45 PM
Duke is going to win the whole thing and I'm going to party rock like crazy when they do.
Will fist pump when they win it all.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 09, 2014, 11:49:35 PM
I would have these 8 teams as 8/9 seeds right now --- Baylor, Oregon, GWash, KState as 8 seeds. Gonzaga Iowa OK St and Ariz St as 9 seeds
10 seeds -- Stanford Colorado Nebraska SMU.
IF we can beat Iowa St, I think there is a good chance we are wearing the home grey jerseys 1st game NCAA. Have to win that one before anything better than a 8 seed can be talked about
Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2014, 11:55:12 PM
I think almost everyone realizes that we are in the 8 vs 9 seed game right now. I may put my breakdowns of the teams a bit later on.
I would have these 8 teams as 8/9 seeds right now --- Baylor, Oregon, GWash, KState as 8 seeds. Gonzaga Iowa OK St and Ariz St as 9 seeds
10 seeds -- Stanford Colorado Nebraska SMU.
IF we can beat Iowa St, I think there is a good chance we are wearing the home grey jerseys 1st game NCAA. Have to win that one before anything better than a 8 seed can be talked about
I would like to see a 10 seed Nebraska vs. 7 seed KSU. We need to make it happen.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 10, 2014, 08:57:53 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on March 10, 2014, 09:37:55 AM
YES PLEASE! :drool: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
if we're going to be an 8/9, that is what i want
Post by: TownieCat on March 10, 2014, 09:40:47 AM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 10, 2014, 10:07:42 AM
YES PLEASE! :drool: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
That would be very interesting.
Post by: Pete on March 10, 2014, 11:39:48 AM
YES PLEASE! :drool: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
That would be very interesting.
AND KU is the 2! :love:
Post by: Pete on March 10, 2014, 11:41:30 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 10, 2014, 01:12:09 PM
The CBS bracket is probably dead on, because they are going to pop their heads into the committee room and be like "Ummmm yeah, we need you guys to put Wichita State and Kansas in the same bracket, because no one outside of Kansas will watch if those two make it to the Final Four, mmmmmkaaayyy bye!"
A mid-major, undefeated team in the FF and nobody will want to watch? You really believe that? They would be two games away from being best pals with the '72 Dolphins.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 10, 2014, 01:15:41 PM
Post by: MadCat on March 10, 2014, 01:17:52 PM
The CBS bracket is probably dead on, because they are going to pop their heads into the committee room and be like "Ummmm yeah, we need you guys to put Wichita State and Kansas in the same bracket, because no one outside of Kansas will watch if those two make it to the Final Four, mmmmmkaaayyy bye!"
A mid-major, undefeated team in the FF and nobody will want to watch? You really believe that? They would be two games away from being best pals with the '72 Dolphins.
Quote
There have been 7 NCAA Men’s Division I basketball champions with perfect records:
1956 San Francisco Dons (29–0)
1957 North Carolina Tar Heels (32–0)
1964 UCLA Bruins (30–0)
1967 UCLA Bruins (30–0)
1972 UCLA Bruins (30–0)
1973 UCLA Bruins (30–0)
1976 Indiana Hoosiers (32–0)
One team's perfect season is still in progress:
2014 Wichita State Shockers (entered the tournament 34–0, postseason results TBD.)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 10, 2014, 01:18:06 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 10, 2014, 01:19:22 PM
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
Post by: scottwildcat on March 10, 2014, 01:28:06 PM
This first round matchup makes a lot more sense.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
OH MY GOODNESS, WHAT A FUN WEEKEND IN SAINT LOUIS THAT COULD BE!!!! :Woohoo:
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 10, 2014, 03:01:13 PM
This first round matchup makes a lot more sense.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
They could just save everyone a bunch of time and go ahead and put their stamp of approval on this one. Outside of a team who isn't currently in the tournament winning their conference tournament, this is going to be the real thing. Especially the midwest region.
Post by: AbeFroman on March 10, 2014, 03:28:47 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 10, 2014, 03:32:23 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 10, 2014, 03:36:42 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 10, 2014, 03:49:55 PM
No way are K-State, KU and WSU going to be in the same regionAnd why is that? They push for this matchups all the time. It matches perfectly too.
Post by: millertime on March 10, 2014, 03:53:10 PM
This first round matchup makes a lot more sense.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
Doesn't Nick Russell play at smu?
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Post by: Winters on March 10, 2014, 03:57:49 PM
yesThis first round matchup makes a lot more sense.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
Doesn't Nick Russell play at smu?
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Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 10, 2014, 03:59:44 PM
No way are K-State, KU and WSU going to be in the same regionAnd why is that? They push for this matchups all the time. It matches perfectly too.
It just won't. Either KU or WSU will be out west imo.
Post by: AbeFroman on March 10, 2014, 04:04:51 PM
No way are K-State, KU and WSU going to be in the same regionAnd why is that? They push for this matchups all the time. It matches perfectly too.
It just won't. Either KU or WSU will be out west imo.
Not with Arizona out there and ku likely being the strongest 2 seed
Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2014, 04:15:54 PM
No way are K-State, KU and WSU going to be in the same regionAnd why is that? They push for this matchups all the time. It matches perfectly too.
It just won't. Either KU or WSU will be out west imo.
it would/could fit the s curve even without geographical engineering. WSU is the 2nd or 3rd 1 and KU is the 2nd or 3rd 2.
Post by: scottwildcat on March 10, 2014, 04:34:09 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 10, 2014, 05:07:55 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 10, 2014, 05:15:28 PM
Some team will have to go out west and be the 2 seed with 1 seed Ariz. None of the possible 2 seeds are on the west half of the US, so the weakest 2 is likely the one that gets shipped out there. They could send KU out west as the 2, but I think a better shot it is someone else
Still has no effect on if they play in StL.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2014, 05:21:24 PM
Thought they did pods and region didn't matter for the Ro64 and Ro32?
Correct, all three Kansas schools could be in StL with two of them in the same region or they could be there with all 3 being in the same region and that doesn't even need to be the Midwest. WSU will be the 1 in the Midwest, we hope that K-State is the 8 or 9 there too. Wouldn't be odd if KU it's the 2 there as well. I gotta think that one of the first four teams will get sent to StL as well to play the 7 if KU gets sent there as a 2 or anyone else in StL as a 2 like Michigan or Wisconsin. Milwaukee is also a pod site so I'd assume the Big 10 teams would get sent there. WSU and or KU might also end up in San Antonio.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on March 10, 2014, 05:31:57 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 10, 2014, 05:42:56 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 10, 2014, 07:49:39 PM
Is KU completely ruled out from getting the last 1 seed? Especially if they beat OSU, ISU/K-State & OU/Texas to win the Big 12 tournament?
no, but should be.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 10, 2014, 08:20:40 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 10, 2014, 08:35:57 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 10, 2014, 08:48:18 PM
Is KU completely ruled out from getting the last 1 seed? Especially if they beat OSU, ISU/K-State & OU/Texas to win the Big 12 tournament?
If Wisc or Mich win the Big 10 tourney... I think they are in good shape to get last 1. Villanova is also in good shape to get it.
KU has a shot at it, but not a great one. Same with Duke (if they won ACC and beat Cuse and Virg doing so).
Post by: Spracne on March 10, 2014, 08:58:30 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 10, 2014, 09:44:21 PM
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I also have those same 4 teams as my 7 seeds. If we could beat Isu, is it possible that we could get onto the 7 seed line? Sure it is possible but what other teams on the 7 seed and 8 seed line do also will have an impact.
Little bit about the 8 seeds =
1. I acutally think ArizSt is a 9 seed. They have lost 4 of 6 (2 of those losses to non tourney teams). They went 10-8 like us, have similar rpi and sos as us. They have only 4 top 50 wins. 4 road wins but only 2 of those are teams 150 rpi or better.
2. Iowa finished 9-9 in the Big 10 , and lost 5 of last 6 games. They had 5 top 50 wins. They had 4 road wins (2 vs top 100, 2 in the top 150). They don't have a bad loss. They went 4-8 vs top 50 Big Ten teams while Ksu went 5-7 vs top 50 Big 12 teams. Their SOS and rpi are a little better than Ksu.
3. Oregon won 7 straight game to get to 10-8 in Pac 12. They got 3 of their 4 top 50 wins on this streak including beating top 5 team AZ. They had a very solid non con going 12-0 with a win over 1 top 50 team and 4 wins over top 100 teams. And that is why their rpi and sos are both in the top 30
9 seeds--
1. I actually have Baylor as an 8 seed instead of ArizSt. Won 7 of 8 to get to 9-9 in Big 12. Like us, they also had 5 top 50 wins vs Big 12 teams. Our wins are better but they swept us. Good non con that included 10-1 mark with 3 top 50 wins. SOS is 10th.
2. Zags went 15-3 and 25-6 overall. Best wins are BYU and Ark, so not a lot to show there. 2 of their conf losses were to teams above 150 rpi. They have a nice record, their SOS is only 106.... so they look like a typical 9/10 seed.
3. I have SMU as a 10 seed (and have Ok st as my last 9 seed). SMU went 23-8. 4 of those wins are top 50, but their 5th best win is vs rpi 124. So it shows in their 130 overall SOS and 301 non con SOS. They went 4-4 vs Lvile,Cincy,Conn,Memphis.... the other 4 teams in their conf that will be in the tourney.
4. I acutally had GW as the worst 8 seed (had Iowa as the best 9). They went 11-5 in A10. Went 2-4 vs top 50 teams in the A10. Beat Creighton in the non con giving them 3 top 50 wins for the season. Their SOS is only 93. They appear to be a typical 8/9 seed, but I think they would have to win the A10 tourney to get up to a 7 seed.
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2014, 11:19:04 PM
Conference tourneys are basically meaningless unless you beat someone WAY better than you, or lose to someone way worse than you. So, KU is going to have to hope and pray that the other 1 seed candidates lose to some shitty team in their first game.
Conference tournaments aren't really supposed to bolster your resume and the committee hasn't ever treated as such. October-February should and does carry more weight than 3 days in an NBA gym or NFL stadium. That being said I love championship week.
KU is a 2, there isn't anything they can do about it. They're closer to a 3 than a 1. There are too many teams that are fighting for that fourth 1 seed and you really can't expect all of them to lose to teams like Maryland, Clemson, Minnesota, Indiana, and Seton Hall. The committee won't punish a team, for losing in the conference tournament semis and they shouldn't.
Post by: Pete on March 10, 2014, 11:25:31 PM
Conference tourneys are basically meaningless unless you beat someone WAY better than you, or lose to someone way worse than you. So, KU is going to have to hope and pray that the other 1 seed candidates lose to some shitty team in their first game.
KU is a 2, there isn't anything they can do about it. They're closer to a 3 than a 1. There are too many teams that are fighting for that fourth 1 seed and you really can't expect all of them to lose to teams like Maryland, Clemson, Minnesota, Indiana, and Seton Hall. The committee won't punish a team, for losing in the conference tournament semis and they shouldn't.
And, it may actually matter what the committee thinks about Joel's status. Bill had better be telling anyone who will listen that Joel will be back.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2014, 12:49:29 AM
Conference tourneys are basically meaningless unless you beat someone WAY better than you, or lose to someone way worse than you. So, KU is going to have to hope and pray that the other 1 seed candidates lose to some shitty team in their first game.
KU is a 2, there isn't anything they can do about it. They're closer to a 3 than a 1. There are too many teams that are fighting for that fourth 1 seed and you really can't expect all of them to lose to teams like Maryland, Clemson, Minnesota, Indiana, and Seton Hall. The committee won't punish a team, for losing in the conference tournament semis and they shouldn't.
And, it may actually matter what the committee thinks about Joel's status. Bill had better be telling anyone who will listen that Joel will be back.
completely agree
Post by: Trim on March 11, 2014, 01:05:29 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2014, 10:32:24 AM
5 - KANSAS STATE WILDCATS
Plenty of teams in college basketball soar at home but then crash on the road. There's perhaps no better example than Kansas State, which is "Popeye-just-ate-his-spinach" powerful in Bramlage Coliseum (named "The Octagon of Doom") but "Superman-in-the-presence-of-Kryptonite" impotent in Big 12 road games.
Kansas State is somewhere in the vicinity of a 9 seed (give or take a seed line) at the moment. The Wildcats are safely in the field, and what's more is that a lot of critics (this one included; one must admit when one is wrong in this business...) were skeptical of this team's ability to get to the NCAA tournament, given oscar Weber's tenure at Illinois, in which he inherited really good players, won at a high level, and then couldn't sustain that level of success with his own recruiting classes. On Dec. 20, Kansas State was an NIT team, but Weber -- to his great credit -- developed a team that was strong enough to beat almost all of the Big 12's best competitors at home. That was more than enough to get the Cats into the field.
Now, Kansas State arrives at the Big 12 Tournament. These aren't home games, true enough, but they're not pure road games, either. Plenty of KSU fans will be on hand for this event, and with the Wildcats landing in Kansas's half of the bracket, there's a great chance to reach the final, given the health problems plaguing KU big man Joel Embiid. If Kansas State can get hot on a neutral court and win the Big 12 Tournament, it could rise to a 6 seed. At the very least, the team could get out of the 8-9 game and land at a 7, thereby avoiding a No. 1 seed in the round of 32. That's definitely something to play for.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 11, 2014, 10:39:21 AM
St. Louis doesn't need K-State.Ok. Who's saying that?
Post by: PowercatPat on March 11, 2014, 11:19:36 AM
http://www.bloguin.com/runthefloor/2014-articles/march/5-teams-with-the-most-to-gain-this-week.html
5 - KANSAS STATE WILDCATS
Plenty of teams in college basketball soar at home but then crash on the road. There's perhaps no better example than Kansas State, which is "Popeye-just-ate-his-spinach" powerful in Bramlage Coliseum (named "The Octagon of Doom") but "Superman-in-the-presence-of-Kryptonite" impotent in Big 12 road games.
Kansas State is somewhere in the vicinity of a 9 seed (give or take a seed line) at the moment. The Wildcats are safely in the field, and what's more is that a lot of critics (this one included; one must admit when one is wrong in this business...) were skeptical of this team's ability to get to the NCAA tournament, given oscar Weber's tenure at Illinois, in which he inherited really good players, won at a high level, and then couldn't sustain that level of success with his own recruiting classes. On Dec. 20, Kansas State was an NIT team, but Weber -- to his great credit -- developed a team that was strong enough to beat almost all of the Big 12's best competitors at home. That was more than enough to get the Cats into the field.
Now, Kansas State arrives at the Big 12 Tournament. These aren't home games, true enough, but they're not pure road games, either. Plenty of KSU fans will be on hand for this event, and with the Wildcats landing in Kansas's half of the bracket, there's a great chance to reach the final, given the health problems plaguing KU big man Joel Embiid. If Kansas State can get hot on a neutral court and win the Big 12 Tournament, it could rise to a 6 seed. At the very least, the team could get out of the 8-9 game and land at a 7, thereby avoiding a No. 1 seed in the round of 32. That's definitely something to play for.
Too bad we're not even going to get past ISU.
Post by: Lefty on March 11, 2014, 11:37:29 AM
http://www.bloguin.com/runthefloor/2014-articles/march/5-teams-with-the-most-to-gain-this-week.html
5 - KANSAS STATE WILDCATS
Plenty of teams in college basketball soar at home but then crash on the road. There's perhaps no better example than Kansas State, which is "Popeye-just-ate-his-spinach" powerful in Bramlage Coliseum (named "The Octagon of Doom") but "Superman-in-the-presence-of-Kryptonite" impotent in Big 12 road games.
Kansas State is somewhere in the vicinity of a 9 seed (give or take a seed line) at the moment. The Wildcats are safely in the field, and what's more is that a lot of critics (this one included; one must admit when one is wrong in this business...) were skeptical of this team's ability to get to the NCAA tournament, given oscar Weber's tenure at Illinois, in which he inherited really good players, won at a high level, and then couldn't sustain that level of success with his own recruiting classes. On Dec. 20, Kansas State was an NIT team, but Weber -- to his great credit -- developed a team that was strong enough to beat almost all of the Big 12's best competitors at home. That was more than enough to get the Cats into the field.
Now, Kansas State arrives at the Big 12 Tournament. These aren't home games, true enough, but they're not pure road games, either. Plenty of KSU fans will be on hand for this event, and with the Wildcats landing in Kansas's half of the bracket, there's a great chance to reach the final, given the health problems plaguing KU big man Joel Embiid. If Kansas State can get hot on a neutral court and win the Big 12 Tournament, it could rise to a 6 seed. At the very least, the team could get out of the 8-9 game and land at a 7, thereby avoiding a No. 1 seed in the round of 32. That's definitely something to play for.
Too bad we're not even going to get past ISU.
You know what Pat, eff you and your negative ass. At least get creative if you're going to be a jackass.
Post by: AppleJack on March 11, 2014, 11:41:36 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2014, 02:10:49 PM
Post by: OKclone on March 13, 2014, 03:26:45 PM
http://www.bloguin.com/runthefloor/2014-articles/march/5-teams-with-the-most-to-gain-this-week.html
5 - KANSAS STATE WILDCATS
Plenty of teams in college basketball soar at home but then crash on the road. There's perhaps no better example than Kansas State, which is "Popeye-just-ate-his-spinach" powerful in Bramlage Coliseum (named "The Octagon of Doom") but "Superman-in-the-presence-of-Kryptonite" impotent in Big 12 road games.
Kansas State is somewhere in the vicinity of a 9 seed (give or take a seed line) at the moment. The Wildcats are safely in the field, and what's more is that a lot of critics (this one included; one must admit when one is wrong in this business...) were skeptical of this team's ability to get to the NCAA tournament, given oscar Weber's tenure at Illinois, in which he inherited really good players, won at a high level, and then couldn't sustain that level of success with his own recruiting classes. On Dec. 20, Kansas State was an NIT team, but Weber -- to his great credit -- developed a team that was strong enough to beat almost all of the Big 12's best competitors at home. That was more than enough to get the Cats into the field.
Now, Kansas State arrives at the Big 12 Tournament. These aren't home games, true enough, but they're not pure road games, either. Plenty of KSU fans will be on hand for this event, and with the Wildcats landing in Kansas's half of the bracket, there's a great chance to reach the final, given the health problems plaguing KU big man Joel Embiid. If Kansas State can get hot on a neutral court and win the Big 12 Tournament, it could rise to a 6 seed. At the very least, the team could get out of the 8-9 game and land at a 7, thereby avoiding a No. 1 seed in the round of 32. That's definitely something to play for.
Too bad we're not even going to get past ISU.
You know what Pat, eff you and your negative ass. At least get creative if you're going to be a jackass.
LULZ he was right.
Post by: Mr Bread on March 13, 2014, 03:52:54 PM
Oh hi. The luchando naranja y azul pans are going to be on that motherfucking bubble if they win four more in a row! So suck it all you haters who didn't believe because I know who you are and I won't forget. #bubblepoppin
Okay bit of a set back there with the historically bad home loss to Michigan, but we're on our way back. Beat IU today. Michigan again! Those fuckers are in for it. Dicks will be kicked off meatchicken bodies at an incredible rate. Maybe that Posse fucko will weigh in here, but once the Breads slap the dicks off Michigan and beat Nubb or the SUCKeyes we are right on that bubble. #nailinthatatlargebid #bubbthumpin
Post by: Mr Bread on March 13, 2014, 09:39:14 PM
Oh hi. The luchando naranja y azul pans are going to be on that motherfucking bubble if they win four more in a row! So suck it all you haters who didn't believe because I know who you are and I won't forget. #bubblepoppin
Okay bit of a set back there with the historically bad home loss to Michigan, but we're on our way back. Beat IU today. Michigan again! Those fuckers are in for it. Dicks will be kicked off meatchicken bodies at an incredible rate. Maybe that Posse fucko will weigh in here, but once the Breads slap the dicks off Michigan and beat Nubb or the SUCKeyes we are right on that bubble. #nailinthatatlargebid
#bubbthumpin
So Brad Evans of yahoo sports says the breads are looking "rock solid" for the ncaas if they beat meatchicken. I like the cut of this guy's gib and am very confident in his credentials to make this call. #nailsversusrocks #solids
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2014, 09:44:53 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on March 13, 2014, 09:58:15 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2014, 10:01:44 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on March 13, 2014, 10:15:50 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 13, 2014, 10:23:31 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 13, 2014, 10:24:17 PM
Oh hi. The luchando naranja y azul pans are going to be on that motherfucking bubble if they win four more in a row! So suck it all you haters who didn't believe because I know who you are and I won't forget. #bubblepoppin
Okay bit of a set back there with the historically bad home loss to Michigan, but we're on our way back. Beat IU today. Michigan again! Those fuckers are in for it. Dicks will be kicked off meatchicken bodies at an incredible rate. Maybe that Posse fucko will weigh in here, but once the Breads slap the dicks off Michigan and beat Nubb or the SUCKeyes we are right on that bubble. #nailinthatatlargebid
#bubbthumpin
So Brad Evans of yahoo sports says the breads are looking "rock solid" for the ncaas if they beat meatchicken. I like the cut of this guy's gib and am very confident in his credentials to make this call. #nailsversusrocks #solids
Sorry Breads. I think it takes more than just beat Michigan. ILL went only 7-11. You have 4 top 50 wins but only Mich St win is a win over a good seeded team (Iowa gonna be a 9, Neb a 10/11 IMO and Minn is out as of now). Big 10 is solid conf and ILL played tough conf sched, but your non con SOS is 182 and only top 100 win in non con is Mizzou
Post by: MakeItRain on March 13, 2014, 10:29:26 PM
Oh hi. The luchando naranja y azul pans are going to be on that motherfucking bubble if they win four more in a row! So suck it all you haters who didn't believe because I know who you are and I won't forget. #bubblepoppin
Okay bit of a set back there with the historically bad home loss to Michigan, but we're on our way back. Beat IU today. Michigan again! Those fuckers are in for it. Dicks will be kicked off meatchicken bodies at an incredible rate. Maybe that Posse fucko will weigh in here, but once the Breads slap the dicks off Michigan and beat Nubb or the SUCKeyes we are right on that bubble. #nailinthatatlargebid
#bubbthumpin
So Brad Evans of yahoo sports says the breads are looking "rock solid" for the ncaas if they beat meatchicken. I like the cut of this guy's gib and am very confident in his credentials to make this call. #nailsversusrocks #solids
Sorry Breads. I think it takes more than just beat Michigan. ILL went only 7-11. You have 4 top 50 wins but only Mich St win is a win over a good seeded team (Iowa gonna be a 9, Neb a 10/11 IMO and Minn is out as of now). Big 10 is solid conf and ILL played tough conf sched, but your non con SOS is 182 and only top 100 win in non con is Mizzou
pfft, I bet you every dollar I got that Iowa won't be a 9. They have lost 6 of their last 7.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 14, 2014, 09:05:29 AM
Post by: GCJayhawker on March 14, 2014, 09:34:42 AM
Would take all the way to an E8 matchup with Duke, because the Shocks want no part of Baylor in the second round. WSU has not seen a team with the size and athleticism of the Bears.
Also, look at the KSU v. Wisconsin second round matchup. The Cats just can't avoid the Badgers.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 14, 2014, 09:51:40 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 14, 2014, 09:54:29 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 14, 2014, 09:56:28 AM
the buffs will stomp our facesI'm gonna stomp your face. :shakesfist:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 14, 2014, 10:22:55 AM
I want the buffs will stomp our faces
:surprised:
Post by: #LIFE on March 14, 2014, 10:24:40 AM
New Palm bracket: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Would take all the way to an E8 matchup with Duke, because the Shocks want no part of Baylor in the second round. WSU has not seen a team with the size and athleticism of the Bears.
Also, look at the KSU v. Wisconsin second round matchup. The Cats just can't avoid the Badgers.
I called it 2 weeks ago, KSU vs. Wisconsin in Milwaukee. I don't have much confidence we'll win our 1st game tho so prolly won't matter
Post by: 'taterblast on March 14, 2014, 10:27:57 AM
I would totally fly to milwaukee. Flights are dirt cheap there.
not for next weekend :frown:
Post by: AppleJack on March 14, 2014, 10:34:48 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 14, 2014, 10:53:46 AM
Quote
The Seed List
Notes
*** = Teams at No. 41 and better on Seed List considered tournament locks with odds to make the field of 85 percent or higher.
@ = Team is among the Last Four In.
ITALICS = Teams projected to win their conference tournament and automatic bid.
BOLD = Teams that have clinched their conference's automatic bid.
Seed List ordering runs from left to right, then right to left, then left to right.
No. 1 Seeds: 1. Florida | 2. Arizona | 3. Wichita State | 4. Villanova
No. 2: 8. Wisconsin | 7. Duke | 6. Michigan | 5. Kansas
No. 3: 9. Virginia | 10. Syracuse | 11. Creighton | 12. Louisville
No. 4: 16. North Carolina | 15. Cincinnati | 14. San Diego State | 13. Iowa State
No. 5: 17. Michigan State | 18. Ohio State | 19. Oklahoma | 20. Connecticut
No. 6: 24. Texas | 23. VCU | 22. Saint Louis | 21. UCLA
No. 7: 25. Kentucky | 26. New Mexico | 27. Gonzaga | 28. Baylor
No. 8: 32. G. Washington | 31. Memphis | 30. Oregon | 29. Massachusetts
No. 9: 33. Oklahoma State | 34. Colorado | 35. Stanford | 36. Kansas State
No. 10: 40. So. Methodist | 39. Arizona State | 38. Pittsburgh | 37. Iowa
No. 11: 41. Xavier*** | 42. Nebraska | 43. Tennessee | 44. Saint Joseph's@
No. 12: 48. Harvard | 47. Providence@ | 46. Brigham Young@ | 45. Dayton@
No. 12-13 49. La. Tech | 50. N. Dakota St. | 51. Stephen F. Austin | 52. Manhattan
No. 13-14: 56. UC Irvine | 55. Georgia State | 54. Mercer | 53. Delaware
No. 14-15: 57. NC Central | 58. Western Michigan | 59. E. Kentucky | 60. American
No. 15-16: 64. Weber State | 63. Stony Brook | 62. Utah Valley | 61. Milwaukee
No. 16: 65. Wofford | 66. Mt. St. Mary's | 67. Coastal Carolina | 68. Ala. State
First Four Out: 72. Arkansas | 71. Southern Miss | 70. Florida State | 69. Minnesota
Next Four Out: 73. California | 74. Missouri | 75. St. John's | 76. Green Bay
The bubble (15 teams for 6 spots)
IN (6, in S curve order): 42. Nebraska, 43. Tennessee, 44. Saint Joseph's, 45. Dayton, 46. Brigham Young, 47. Providence
OUT (9, in S curve order): 69. Minnesota, 70. Florida St, 71. Southern Miss, 72. Arkansas, 73. California, 74. Missouri, 75. St. John's, 76. Green Bay, 77. Georgia
Post by: ZappaCat on March 14, 2014, 11:00:16 AM
FWIW, Lundardi from this morning:QuoteThe Seed List
Notes
*** = Teams at No. 41 and better on Seed List considered tournament locks with odds to make the field of 85 percent or higher.
@ = Team is among the Last Four In.
ITALICS = Teams projected to win their conference tournament and automatic bid.
BOLD = Teams that have clinched their conference's automatic bid.
Seed List ordering runs from left to right, then right to left, then left to right.
No. 1 Seeds: 1. Florida | 2. Arizona | 3. Wichita State | 4. Villanova
No. 2: 8. Wisconsin | 7. Duke | 6. Michigan | 5. Kansas
No. 3: 9. Virginia | 10. Syracuse | 11. Creighton | 12. Louisville
No. 4: 16. North Carolina | 15. Cincinnati | 14. San Diego State | 13. Iowa State
No. 5: 17. Michigan State | 18. Ohio State | 19. Oklahoma | 20. Connecticut
No. 6: 24. Texas | 23. VCU | 22. Saint Louis | 21. UCLA
No. 7: 25. Kentucky | 26. New Mexico | 27. Gonzaga | 28. Baylor
No. 8: 32. G. Washington | 31. Memphis | 30. Oregon | 29. Massachusetts
No. 9: 33. Oklahoma State | 34. Colorado | 35. Stanford | 36. Kansas State
No. 10: 40. So. Methodist | 39. Arizona State | 38. Pittsburgh | 37. Iowa
No. 11: 41. Xavier*** | 42. Nebraska | 43. Tennessee | 44. Saint Joseph's@
No. 12: 48. Harvard | 47. Providence@ | 46. Brigham Young@ | 45. Dayton@
No. 12-13 49. La. Tech | 50. N. Dakota St. | 51. Stephen F. Austin | 52. Manhattan
No. 13-14: 56. UC Irvine | 55. Georgia State | 54. Mercer | 53. Delaware
No. 14-15: 57. NC Central | 58. Western Michigan | 59. E. Kentucky | 60. American
No. 15-16: 64. Weber State | 63. Stony Brook | 62. Utah Valley | 61. Milwaukee
No. 16: 65. Wofford | 66. Mt. St. Mary's | 67. Coastal Carolina | 68. Ala. State
First Four Out: 72. Arkansas | 71. Southern Miss | 70. Florida State | 69. Minnesota
Next Four Out: 73. California | 74. Missouri | 75. St. John's | 76. Green Bay
The bubble (15 teams for 6 spots)
IN (6, in S curve order): 42. Nebraska, 43. Tennessee, 44. Saint Joseph's, 45. Dayton, 46. Brigham Young, 47. Providence
OUT (9, in S curve order): 69. Minnesota, 70. Florida St, 71. Southern Miss, 72. Arkansas, 73. California, 74. Missouri, 75. St. John's, 76. Green Bay, 77. Georgia
I know that it is all a crap shoot until they start hearing from the insiders in the committe, but How can Palm have Wisconsin as a 1 seed and Lunardi has them as the last 2 seed?
Post by: catzacker on March 14, 2014, 11:11:21 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 14, 2014, 11:26:10 AM
Oh hi. The luchando naranja y azul pans are going to be on that motherfucking bubble if they win four more in a row! So suck it all you haters who didn't believe because I know who you are and I won't forget. #bubblepoppin
Okay bit of a set back there with the historically bad home loss to Michigan, but we're on our way back. Beat IU today. Michigan again! Those fuckers are in for it. Dicks will be kicked off meatchicken bodies at an incredible rate. Maybe that Posse fucko will weigh in here, but once the Breads slap the dicks off Michigan and beat Nubb or the SUCKeyes we are right on that bubble. #nailinthatatlargebid
#bubbthumpin
So Brad Evans of yahoo sports says the breads are looking "rock solid" for the ncaas if they beat meatchicken. I like the cut of this guy's gib and am very confident in his credentials to make this call. #nailsversusrocks #solids
Sorry Breads. I think it takes more than just beat Michigan. ILL went only 7-11. You have 4 top 50 wins but only Mich St win is a win over a good seeded team (Iowa gonna be a 9, Neb a 10/11 IMO and Minn is out as of now). Big 10 is solid conf and ILL played tough conf sched, but your non con SOS is 182 and only top 100 win in non con is Mizzou
pfft, I bet you every dollar I got that Iowa won't be a 9. They have lost 6 of their last 7.
Chill. That is where I had those teams as of y-day. It was just a reference point trying to tell the Breads that only 1 of their 4 top 50 wins in the Big 10 was a against a good seeded team. I probably should have said "probably about a 9" instead since tourney weekend isn't done yet.
FWIW.... Last year the Breads went 8-10 in the Big 10, lost 4 of their last 6, and got a 7 seed. No one had them any better that the 8vs9 game. Iowa getting a 9 seed would shock me a lot less than ILL getting that 7 seed last year
Post by: Mr Bread on March 14, 2014, 11:28:26 AM
Hey Bread what's it like to not make the tournament?
You are in for the mushing of a lifetime.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 14, 2014, 11:31:56 AM
Hey Bread what's it like to not make the tournament?
You are in for the mushing of a lifetime.
I didn't mean this year, I meant in year's past.
Post by: Mr Bread on March 14, 2014, 11:37:24 AM
Hey Bread what's it like to not make the tournament?
You are in for the mushing of a lifetime.
I didn't mean this year, I meant in year's past.
It's shitty and I hate it.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 14, 2014, 11:39:29 AM
Ok St beats almighty Tech. Ksu and OK St lose close games to good teams that are both gonna be top 4 seeds.
And Lunardi now has OK St 3 spots higher than us on his "overall seeding rankings"
Gotta Love Lunardi rationalization. By Sunday, I wouldn't be surprised if we somehow end up higher on his rankings that Osu....lol
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 14, 2014, 12:20:12 PM
DO. NOT. WANT.
Post by: kslim on March 14, 2014, 12:24:26 PM
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketologywe will end up in the midwest, us and the shockers sitting in a tree
DO. NOT. WANT.
Post by: wabash909 on March 14, 2014, 01:22:53 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 14, 2014, 01:25:46 PM
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketologywe will end up in the midwest, us and the shockers sitting in a tree
DO. NOT. WANT.
Neither of those will happen. We're a shitty 9-10 seed.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 14, 2014, 01:28:10 PM
Post by: wabash909 on March 14, 2014, 01:42:51 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 14, 2014, 01:52:04 PM
Why have we been knocked out of St. Louis? Just curious. I admittedly have no idea how any of this works.
There isn't a set way that this works. No one has a clue where the committee is going to put certain teams.
Post by: Phil Titola on March 14, 2014, 01:57:05 PM
Post by: #LIFE on March 14, 2014, 01:57:57 PM
Why have we been knocked out of St. Louis? Just curious. I admittedly have no idea how any of this works.
There isn't a set way that this works. No one has a clue where the committee is going to put certain teams.
Other than KSU and Wisconsin being together a lock :curse:
Post by: ksufan44 on March 14, 2014, 01:59:17 PM
Post by: kslim on March 14, 2014, 02:00:24 PM
you dont think that ksu playing wsu in the round of 32 or whatever its called now has some value to the committee? ratings broWhy have we been knocked out of St. Louis? Just curious. I admittedly have no idea how any of this works.
There isn't a set way that this works. No one has a clue where the committee is going to put certain teams.
Post by: Tobias on March 14, 2014, 04:11:17 PM
We might be the lowest, or tied for lowest, seeded Big 12 team.
seems about right
Post by: PoetWarrior on March 14, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 15, 2014, 09:38:56 AM
Post by: PowercatPat on March 15, 2014, 09:41:31 AM
Post by: catzacker on March 15, 2014, 09:45:48 AM
Post by: #LIFE on March 15, 2014, 09:50:32 AM
barreling ahead for a 10/7 game with whisky as the 2. that kind of makes it look like we're a bubble-ish team, or not quite the lock we thought?
I haven't been following closely but the other 8/9 teams haven't done much recently right? I think we'll be there, hopefully with WSU the 1. I have little confidence right now we even get out of the 8/9 game though :frown:
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 15, 2014, 01:08:22 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 15, 2014, 03:27:01 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg31%2F2619%2Fyt02.png&hash=d07aa1af33a11b5f05cfe56a76512136e3a141c7)Oregon and Colorado are the only teams on here that I won't want to play. Brice would coach Pastern in to a box.
Post by: wetwillie on March 15, 2014, 04:51:35 PM
Post by: SdK on March 15, 2014, 05:04:48 PM
Would you look at that: Danny Manning has Tulsa in the tournament in year 2. Former big 12 assistants are doing great this year.
Frank's not. :)
Post by: Winters on March 15, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
yes he isWould you look at that: Danny Manning has Tulsa in the tournament in year 2. Former big 12 assistants are doing great this year.
Frank's not. :)
Post by: Johnny Thunderbone on March 15, 2014, 06:34:25 PM
No, he's not.yes he isWould you look at that: Danny Manning has Tulsa in the tournament in year 2. Former big 12 assistants are doing great this year.
Frank's not. :)
He was one win better this year than last. Finished 13th once again in a conference full of pud teams.
Post by: 'taterblast on March 15, 2014, 07:12:39 PM
haha no, let's just not
Post by: star seed 7 on March 15, 2014, 07:18:12 PM
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology)
haha no, let's just not
gross
Post by: Pete on March 16, 2014, 08:12:00 AM
Post by: Pete on March 16, 2014, 08:17:52 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 16, 2014, 08:40:44 AM
Post by: Pete on March 16, 2014, 08:47:15 AM
When does Lunardi start leaking the actual bracket?
Hour or so before the announcement he'll start getting his phone calls and so forth.
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2014, 09:00:49 AM
Post by: Steffy08 on March 16, 2014, 10:46:18 AM
If we are the fourth 9, it's really going to suck, guys. We will have to play Florida in Orlando. That's great for Winters, and a handful of affluent Cats with kids, but man, short tourney.
No if we are the 4th 9 seed we play the best 8 seed and the worst 1 seed
Post by: ChiComCat on March 16, 2014, 11:21:13 AM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 16, 2014, 11:34:47 AM
Post by: wabash909 on March 16, 2014, 11:37:25 AM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 16, 2014, 11:39:33 AM
Ca we still get St. Louis?!!
Yes
Post by: sunny_cat on March 16, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
Some chatter about KU dropping to a 3 seed on national sports talk radio today.
Will look forward to the twitter meltdown. Friend from HS on twitter was saying they should be a 1 seed based on number of quality wins. :facepalm:
Post by: CNS on March 16, 2014, 11:50:25 AM
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Post by: CNS on March 16, 2014, 11:53:35 AM
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 16, 2014, 12:41:45 PM
Not bad, except for being in New York. I have no fear of St. Louis and Villanova is the weakest 2 seed. Lil' brother would skate straight to the Final 4.
Post by: kim carnes on March 16, 2014, 01:04:17 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 16, 2014, 01:06:53 PM
i don't think we would beat st louis.
I do.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 16, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/2014/3/16/5514246/bracketology-2014-ncaa-basketball-bubble-florida-arizona-michigan
Not bad, except for being in New York. I have no fear of St. Louis and Villanova is the weakest 2 seed. Lil' brother would skate straight to the Final 4.
Awful bracket.
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2014, 01:14:36 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2014, 01:14:48 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on March 16, 2014, 01:16:37 PM
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
I never click on the links.
Post by: kim carnes on March 16, 2014, 01:18:40 PM
Guys in my heart I know we are in St. Louis playing in the 8/9 game with wichita state as the 1 seed. I just know it.
but we lose in the first round right?
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 16, 2014, 01:25:43 PM
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
Post by: Phil Titola on March 16, 2014, 01:26:59 PM
Guys in my heart I know we are in St. Louis playing in the 8/9 game with wichita state as the 1 seed. I just know it.
I want this so hard.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 16, 2014, 01:27:12 PM
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
This confuses me as well, mc.
Post by: #LIFE on March 16, 2014, 01:27:17 PM
Some chatter about KU dropping to a 3 seed on national sports talk radio today.
3 vs. SFA please :crossfingers:
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2014, 01:33:20 PM
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 16, 2014, 01:42:42 PM
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
I bet you they're close. I can't get my mind off of Selection Sunday, so it's helping me to pass the time.
Post by: #LIFE on March 16, 2014, 01:51:13 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2014, 01:59:09 PM
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
I bet you they're close. I can't get my mind off of Selection Sunday, so it's helping me to pass the time.
They might be close in terms of seeding but not matchups.
Post by: yoman on March 16, 2014, 02:00:48 PM
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
People have a fascination with projections in many aspects of life. As fans, we have chosen to apply that to March Maddness brackets. Basically a long way of saying people have fun in trying to predict the future.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 16, 2014, 02:01:49 PM
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
I bet you they're close. I can't get my mind off of Selection Sunday, so it's helping me to pass the time.
They might be close in terms of seeding but not matchups.
I bet you we've seen a bracket in the past couple of days that has had our correct opponent on it. I day dream about old games all the time. What's wrong with daydreaming (with the aid of fake brackets) about potential future games?
Post by: Phil Titola on March 16, 2014, 02:02:35 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on March 16, 2014, 02:07:01 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2014, 02:10:44 PM
Opponents isn't completely absurd - They are loosely based on geography which can determine a lot.
It's pretty random for 5-12 seeds
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2014, 02:18:14 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2014, 02:22:26 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 16, 2014, 02:26:00 PM
Post by: sys on March 16, 2014, 02:30:13 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2014, 02:31:06 PM
Hey guys, we should call michigancat "funhatercat". Get it, because he hates fun?
no, this is fun. Here's my matchup breakdown. The seven seed we're playing doesn't seem much better than us, I think we can win! I mean they played in a weaker conference, lmao. but that game against the two seed, man, do not want. they're really good and will provably have lots of fans since it's close to their place. Madness!
Post by: Phil Titola on March 16, 2014, 02:32:36 PM
Hey guys, we should call michigancat "funhatercat". Get it, because he hates fun?
no, this is fun. Here's my matchup breakdown. The seven seed we're playing doesn't seem much better than us, I think we can win! I mean they played in a weaker conference, lmao. but that game against the two seed, man, do not want. they're really good and will provably have lots of fans since it's close to their place. Madness!
OMG you are like Joe Lunardi...how did you know all of that?
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2014, 02:33:11 PM
Post by: Trim on March 16, 2014, 02:33:45 PM
K-State is somewhat likely to matchup with WSU in the second round.
Why?
Post by: BKCat on March 16, 2014, 02:36:18 PM
Lunardi gets inside info on today. He just switched Memphis to an 8 vs. K-State in St. Louis. Think there's a good chance KSU in St. Louis
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2014, 02:37:32 PM
Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 7m
Lunardi gets inside info on today. He just switched Memphis to an 8 vs. K-State in St. Louis. Think there's a good chance KSU in St. Louis
:love:
Post by: sunny_cat on March 16, 2014, 02:38:34 PM
Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 7m
Lunardi gets inside info on today. He just switched Memphis to an 8 vs. K-State in St. Louis. Think there's a good chance KSU in St. Louis
:pray:
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 16, 2014, 02:39:01 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 16, 2014, 02:41:30 PM
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
The real question is why the hell do you care if people enjoy it? Seems pretty weird that you are concerned at all with people enjoying tournament projections and bracket seeding prognostications.
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2014, 02:41:40 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2014, 02:42:26 PM
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
The real question is why the hell do you care if people enjoy it? Seems pretty weird that you are concerned at all with people enjoying tournament projections and bracket seeding prognostications.
I think learning why humans do what they do is very interesting.
Post by: sys on March 16, 2014, 02:42:48 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 16, 2014, 02:44:21 PM
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
The real question is why the hell do you care if people enjoy it? Seems pretty weird that you are concerned at all with people enjoying tournament projections and bracket seeding prognostications.
I think learning why humans do what they do is very interesting.
Yeah, maybe, except that's not what you are trying to accomplish here.
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2014, 02:44:50 PM
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
The real question is why the hell do you care if people enjoy it? Seems pretty weird that you are concerned at all with people enjoying tournament projections and bracket seeding prognostications.
I think learning why humans do what they do is very interesting.
Yeah, maybe, except that's not what you are trying to accomplish here.
yes it is
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 16, 2014, 02:45:16 PM
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
The real question is why the hell do you care if people enjoy it? Seems pretty weird that you are concerned at all with people enjoying tournament projections and bracket seeding prognostications.
I think learning why humans do what they do is very interesting.
Yeah, maybe, except that's not what you are trying to accomplish here.
yes it is
lol
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 16, 2014, 02:48:13 PM
I've already broken down all 7/8/9/10 teams on film. We will beat all of them :cheers:
How do we match with Memphis?
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 16, 2014, 02:50:01 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 16, 2014, 02:52:30 PM
They're small as well, with good, physical guards.
Do they force turnovers ?
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2014, 02:53:19 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 16, 2014, 02:54:42 PM
They're small as well, with good, physical guards.
Better PG?
Post by: catzacker on March 16, 2014, 03:00:43 PM
Coach looks very young doesn't know x's and o's
Exactly. Very undisciplined team. Probably loses a lot of close games because of it. oscar will X and O his face off.
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2014, 03:02:09 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 16, 2014, 03:04:52 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2014, 03:04:53 PM
Play in a pro arena so the players are all flashy and 1 types
So we will also out hustle them
Post by: BostonPancake on March 16, 2014, 03:05:17 PM
Post by: catzacker on March 16, 2014, 03:06:34 PM
Play in a pro arena so the players are all flashy and 1 types
Baggy pants, no real offense at all, just alot of one on one.
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2014, 03:18:23 PM
Play in a pro arena so the players are all flashy and 1 types
Baggy pants, no real offense at all, just alot of one on one.
Cankles and hairy palms to boot. We will be victorious.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 16, 2014, 03:19:37 PM
If we get that 8, I think we will likely play a Pac 10 team. If we get a 9 seed then I would guess we get Memphis or UMass. I think our chances of being in St Louis are pretty good. Anyway.... here is what I got
1 seeds = 1. Florida 2. Arizona 3. Wich St 4. Michigan
2 seeds = 5. Nova 6. Wisconsin 7. Virginia 8. KU
3 seeds = 9. Iowa St 10. Duke 11. Lville 12. Syracuse
4 seeds = 13. Crieghton 14. Mich St 15. Cincy 16. SD St
5 seeds = 17. Ucla 18. N Carolina 19. UConn 20. OU
6 seeds = 21. VCU 22. N Mexico 23. Ohio St 24. SLU
7 seeds = 25. Kentucky 26. Baylor 27. Texas 28. Oregon
8 seeds = 29. UMass 30. G Wash 31. Memphis 32. KState
9 seeds = 33. Gonz 34. Ok St 35. Stanford 36. Colorado
10 seeds = 37. Iowa 38. St Joe 39. Pitt 40. Ariz St
11 seeds = 41. Nebraska 42. Tenn 43 Prov
Last 4 teams in = SMU, Xavier, Dayton, BYU
Post by: NDSU Lollypopkid on March 16, 2014, 03:26:52 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 16, 2014, 03:27:58 PM
Michigan State looks legit. Shocking.
Finally healthy and playing their best ball of the year. Will probably make another run at the F4.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 16, 2014, 03:30:33 PM
K-State is somewhat likely to matchup with WSU in the second round.
Why?
Wichita is 90% going to St. Louis as the one there to keep them as close to home as possible. KSU is a potential 8/9 seed. With St Louis holding an 8/9 game because Wichita is playing there, KSU would be a decent fit to be close to home. Memphis playing us there in the first round would keep them fairly close as well. NCAA sells out of tix quickly
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 16, 2014, 03:31:32 PM
I guess this question is directed at Powercat Posse.
Post by: Tobias on March 16, 2014, 03:31:36 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 16, 2014, 03:34:34 PM
Michigan State looks legit. Shocking. Sucks for the region that gets them as their 3
Dangerous team. They are playing Mich so late today that I think they already have MSU's seed already set. IF they would have played and beat Mich yday.... I think they would have been a 3 seed. They still could be a 3.
Louisville also a team that is clicking on all cylinders right now. Dangerous 3 or 4 seed there too.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 16, 2014, 03:36:05 PM
Why is Louisville being seeded as a 3 in every mock bracket I've seen? Only 5 losses, all to ranked teams if I remember correctly, and they just won the American League tournament with ease.
I guess this question is directed at Powercat Posse.
I think Wisky gets 3, LVille 2. Maybe KU gets a 3 but even with all their losses, tough to have the best team from the best RPI conference lower than a 2.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 16, 2014, 03:40:52 PM
Post by: Trim on March 16, 2014, 03:46:33 PM
K-State is somewhat likely to matchup with WSU in the second round.
Why?
Wichita is 90% going to St. Louis as the one there to keep them as close to home as possible. KSU is a potential 8/9 seed. With St Louis holding an 8/9 game because Wichita is playing there, KSU would be a decent fit to be close to home. Memphis playing us there in the first round would keep them fairly close as well. NCAA sells out of tix quickly
Yes, WSU is likely to be a 1-seed that will start in St. Louis. How does that relate to K-State being an 8/9 seed there lined up to play them?
I could've picked any number of posts to point out the myopia that goes on when we who are highly invested in K-State think that anyone else gives a eff about us or any other team in our range.
KU and WSU will start in St. Louis. That's good enough geography-wise. The filler teams that will also play in St. Louis may be close or may not but it won't really matter.
And I don't think they GAF about a WSU-KSU 2nd round matchup. That has appeal to Kansans, and especially us for lol-bbs purposes. It has no appeal to non-Kansans. Kansans will likely watch either team regardless of opponent, so it'd actually be better to separate them and have more markets be interested in more games.
I hope we play Thursday night causing me to not even take a chance on playing in my own pickup game before my thumb's fully healed. Someone let the committee know.
Post by: BKCat on March 16, 2014, 03:47:50 PM
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 16, 2014, 03:48:59 PM
Post by: Trim on March 16, 2014, 03:49:49 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 16, 2014, 03:50:47 PM
Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
We did it boys. Played our way off the 8/9 line! :emawkid:
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 16, 2014, 03:54:17 PM
Why is Louisville being seeded as a 3 in every mock bracket I've seen? Only 5 losses, all to ranked teams if I remember correctly, and they just won the American League tournament with ease.
I guess this question is directed at Powercat Posse.
Louisville's overall SOS is 97, which is high.... and their only non con win in top 50 is So Miss ( a team who may not even make tourney). 2nd best non con win is Missouri St, 84 on rpi.
The bottom half of American Conf is extremely weak. So 12 of Lville's 18 league wins are vs teams 143 or higher in the rpi
Post by: BostonPancake on March 16, 2014, 03:55:00 PM
Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
crap. I would bet that we would be one of the first games to play on Thursday. Screw that.
Post by: Tobias on March 16, 2014, 03:55:13 PM
Post by: Trim on March 16, 2014, 04:01:17 PM
KU and WSU will start in St. Louis. That's good enough geography-wise. The filler teams that will also play in St. Louis may be close or may not but it won't really matter.
Could also sub ISU in for KU or WSU and be more than fine with geography and tickets. It's an arch, ISU, not an ark. Calm down.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 16, 2014, 04:02:22 PM
Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
His new bracket has us a 10 seed and OU as a 6 seed in the bottom half of the Midwest region. (He also has Texas as 8 in top half of MW bracket). Committee almost always avoids having 2 teams from same conference in the same (top or bottom) of a region. Big East had more than 8 teams in years past and they had no choice then.... but with the Big 12 getting 7 teams, expect only 1 Big 12 team in a bottom/top of a region
Post by: kim carnes on March 16, 2014, 04:28:15 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2014, 04:29:51 PM
Why?Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
crap. I would bet that we would be one of the first games to play on Thursday. Screw that.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2014, 04:30:17 PM
florida is the 1 seed that we want to facelol. No.
Post by: sunny_cat on March 16, 2014, 04:30:41 PM
florida is the 1 seed that we want to facelol. No.
Wacky, posts like that don't warrant a response.
Post by: kim carnes on March 16, 2014, 04:32:15 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 16, 2014, 04:32:52 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 16, 2014, 04:33:58 PM
Post by: Winters on March 16, 2014, 04:36:04 PM
please let us play florida next weekendoscar is in Billy Donovan's head too
Post by: PowercatPat on March 16, 2014, 04:40:15 PM
please let us play florida next weekend
We would lose by at least 20.
Post by: kim carnes on March 16, 2014, 04:40:18 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 16, 2014, 04:45:40 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2014, 04:46:11 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on March 16, 2014, 04:48:14 PM
Does anyone have a stream for Selection Sunday?
cbssports.com does one - or are you looking for a k-state team one?
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 16, 2014, 04:49:51 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 16, 2014, 04:51:19 PM
I know carnes is trolling, but Florida is stacked w/ seniors and depth. We'd get skull mumped.
:facepalm: @ your logic
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 16, 2014, 04:52:52 PM
Mich's conf SOS was ranked 7th hardest coming into today. Virg was 87th
Mich had 7 wins over Big 10 teams in top 50 who are in tourney. Beat rpi 54 iowa who is in tourney. Beat rpi 50 Minn twice (I think Minn is out)
Virg had 5 wins over top 50 team in ACC who are in the tourney
Mich lost 4 games in non con. best win is Stanford rpi 42
Virg lost 4 games in non con. Best win is SMU rpi 55
Michigan > Virginia ... when speaking of who should get the last 1 seed
Lunardi now has Virg as the last 1 seed
Post by: BostonPancake on March 16, 2014, 04:53:05 PM
Why?Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
crap. I would bet that we would be one of the first games to play on Thursday. Screw that.
I like late afternoon or evening games.
Post by: kim carnes on March 16, 2014, 04:53:11 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 16, 2014, 04:54:35 PM
Michigan went 17-4 in all its game in the Big 10 (counting tourney). Virginia went 19-2 in all games vs ACC.
Mich's conf SOS was ranked 7th hardest coming into today. Virg was 87th
Mich had 7 wins over Big 10 teams in top 50 who are in tourney. Beat rpi 54 iowa who is in tourney. Beat rpi 50 Minn twice (I think Minn is out)
Virg had 5 wins over top 50 team in ACC who are in the tourney
Mich lost 4 games in non con. best win is Stanford rpi 42
Virg lost 4 games in non con. Best win is SMU rpi 55
Michigan > Virginia ... when speaking of who should get the last 1 seed
Lunardi now has Virg as the last 1 seed
which team has more seniors?
Post by: ChiComCat on March 16, 2014, 04:56:42 PM
Why?Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
crap. I would bet that we would be one of the first games to play on Thursday. Screw that.
I like late afternoon or evening games.
Morning gives you an excuse to start drinking and then if/when we win, you get to party all afternoon and watch other teams.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 16, 2014, 04:59:35 PM
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Post by: BostonPancake on March 16, 2014, 05:00:32 PM
Why?Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
crap. I would bet that we would be one of the first games to play on Thursday. Screw that.
I like late afternoon or evening games.
Morning gives you an excuse to start drinking and then if/when we win, you get to party all afternoon and watch other teams.
If we lose the whole day is ruined.
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Post by: star seed 7 on March 16, 2014, 05:07:00 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2014, 05:07:53 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 16, 2014, 05:08:49 PM
Underwood v. Manning?
i will be rooting hard for this
Post by: BostonPancake on March 16, 2014, 05:09:43 PM
Remember when they used to care about us :frown:
Was just thinking about that. Live look ins.....pfft... Not any more.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2014, 05:10:11 PM
lol@ isu fans who thought they were going to get the 2 in st louis over ku
seriously? :ROFL:
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Post by: ChiComCat on March 16, 2014, 05:19:14 PM
ou a 5? baylor a 6? weird
Makes me think we could even get a 7 but prob a 8
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2014, 05:19:34 PM
ou a 5? baylor a 6? weird
why weird?
Post by: Asteriskhead on March 16, 2014, 05:19:41 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 16, 2014, 05:21:01 PM
ou a 5? baylor a 6? weird
why weird?
just seems high. ou doesn't feel 3-5 seeds better than us. like chicat said, it makes me wonder if we get bumped up
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Post by: puniraptor on March 16, 2014, 05:25:29 PM
this is so awesome
dream scenario
it made me really happy
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Post by: star seed 7 on March 16, 2014, 05:27:14 PM
we'll probably be prime time right?
right prime at 11am
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 16, 2014, 05:27:31 PM
i've never been this excited for a first round gamethis. I really didn't care until hearing it was Kentucky
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Post by: hemmy on March 16, 2014, 05:27:41 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on March 16, 2014, 05:27:54 PM
Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
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Post by: Emo EMAW on March 16, 2014, 05:28:38 PM
We have a 0% chance of beating Kentucky.
Not sure its even that high.
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2014, 05:28:54 PM
Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? Wtf
Where do you think they should be
Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? Wtf
Seven is a documented dumbass, the WSU game will be at 6 and our game will be at 8:30
Post by: PowercatPat on March 16, 2014, 05:29:31 PM
Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
No, too low. I thought they'd be a 6 or 7.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2014, 05:30:33 PM
We have a 0% chance of beating Kentucky.
Not sure its even that high.
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Mods can we ban dumbasses like this for the week, they are going to ruin the good BBing
Post by: IPA4Me on March 16, 2014, 05:30:51 PM
They played like crap down the stretch. Nice tourney run. Their wins were weak in conference.Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
No, too low. I thought they'd be a 6 or 7.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 16, 2014, 05:30:57 PM
no way a seed was higher than you thought it would be? Crazy stuff and you heard it here first folksCan someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
No, too low. I thought they'd be a 6 or 7.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2014, 05:31:08 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 16, 2014, 05:31:27 PM
We have a 0% chance of beating Kentucky.
Not sure its even that high.
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Mods can we ban dumbasses like this for the week, they are going to ruin the good BBing
Ill turn it on when I need to. Waiting for clams bait thread.
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2014, 05:32:19 PM
Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
No, too low. I thought they'd be a 6 or 7.
so a seed lower is some outrage?
Post by: star seed 7 on March 16, 2014, 05:32:44 PM
Seven is a documented dumbass, the WSU game will be at 6 and our game will be at 8:30
it was a joke, fun hater
:Woohoo: <---fun
:curse: <---mir looking at fun
Post by: IPA4Me on March 16, 2014, 05:33:09 PM
Our inside game is going to get raped on Friday.This. Wife and I were talking match ups. Purple Cats are dwarfed by the blue cats.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2014, 05:34:09 PM
Our inside game is going to get raped on Friday.
You pick now for this crap? You're hustlin backwards dude.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 16, 2014, 05:35:24 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2014, 05:35:49 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on March 16, 2014, 05:36:04 PM
They played like crap down the stretch. Nice tourney run. Their wins were weak in conference.Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
No, too low. I thought they'd be a 6 or 7.
They also have Kentucky on the front of their jerseys. I thought that would help.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2014, 05:36:37 PM
Do you disagree?Our inside game is going to get raped on Friday.
You pick now for this crap? You're hustlin backwards dude.
Post by: PowercatPat on March 16, 2014, 05:36:56 PM
no way a seed was higher than you thought it would be? Crazy stuff and you heard it here first folksCan someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
No, too low. I thought they'd be a 6 or 7.
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Post by: Emo EMAW on March 16, 2014, 05:37:06 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2014, 05:39:52 PM
So Mizzou lol
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they have been off of the bubble for 2 weeks
No SMU tho :surprised:
Post by: sys on March 16, 2014, 05:40:54 PM
the WSU game will be at 6 and our game will be at 8:30
:pray:
Post by: Institutional Control on March 16, 2014, 05:41:56 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 16, 2014, 05:42:00 PM
Post by: sys on March 16, 2014, 05:42:33 PM
Michigancat was right, a very winnable game followed by a very difficult one.
he nailed it. mods, change his name to bracketscat.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2014, 05:43:02 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2014, 05:43:14 PM
poor Nick RussellSo Mizzou lol
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they have been off of the bubble for 2 weeks
No SMU tho :surprised:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2014, 05:43:51 PM
Post by: CHONGS on March 16, 2014, 05:43:58 PM
OMichigancat was right, a very winnable game followed by a very difficult one.
he nailed it. mods, change his name to bracketscat.
I choose to read it as bracket scat.
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Post by: Boondock Poonhound on March 16, 2014, 05:45:04 PM
Julius Randle, Dakorey Johnson, Cauley-Stein............. :runaway:
They lost @ South Carolina. Was Kentucky bluebloods at full strength ??
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2014, 05:45:46 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 16, 2014, 05:45:54 PM
But they did have 14 top 100 wins..... I guess the 11 wins vs teams that were in not 100 but not tourney bound didn't impress committee
UK also had a SOS of 4.
I thought they would get a 7 seed ( I had them as my best 7) but thought them getting a 6 could easily happen
Them getting an 8 seed is more shocking than us getting a 10 seed.
However, those of you that were wanting us as a 10 seed..... a 7 vs 10 UK Kstate matchup could have happened.
No one will be picking us. So lets go shock everyone.... and then play the Shockers
Post by: Trogdor on March 16, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on March 16, 2014, 05:47:16 PM
They like to stand around and look at each other. Just like our boys do during their scoreless skids. The interior match up is still a nightmare for KState.Julius Randle, Dakorey Johnson, Cauley-Stein............. :runaway:
They lost @ South Carolina. Was Kentucky bluebloods at full strength ??
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on March 16, 2014, 05:47:30 PM
You think Frank will send oscar game tape?
Not if Currie calls for it .
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2014, 05:48:29 PM
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I've got 5 extra tickets in 107 BB for session 1 which I assume we will be scheduled in. As much as I would love to make a killing by selling to a KState or UK fan, I would rather sit by WSU fans. PM me if you're interested. 100 each which is cheaper than you will find anywhere else.
http://shockernet.net/forum/showthread.php?17945-St.-Louis-Tickets/page2
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2014, 05:49:31 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2014, 05:51:21 PM
Thx mir
I just realized, there is no way that we will play in session 1, so don't buy those tickets unless you want to sell them to a squawk, in that case, buy them
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 16, 2014, 05:54:00 PM
smu got jobbed
Ive talked about SMU's weak SOS (137) and non con SOS (303) and only 4 top 100 wins for a while now.
I had them playing in the "last 4 in" games.... so I thought they were barely in. But not shocked they are out
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2014, 06:02:18 PM
I'm trying to get Emawblast to come w/ me. I need a partner in crime for this trip. Cancel out flight fare and this is a cheap trip.Thx mir
I just realized, there is no way that we will play in session 1, so don't buy those tickets unless you want to sell them to a squawk, in that case, buy them
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 16, 2014, 06:03:54 PM
Doug made it right :D
Missed it, what'd he say?
Post by: sunny_cat on March 16, 2014, 06:07:22 PM
Doug made it right :D
Missed it, what'd he say?
"Forget Kentucky. What about Kansas State?"
Something like that. Played up the sunflower state matchup. :love:
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Post by: Trim on March 16, 2014, 06:42:19 PM
Trim did the opposite of nailing it.
I'm sure I'll regret engaging you, but how so?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2014, 06:42:52 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2014, 06:45:19 PM
Post by: CNS on March 16, 2014, 06:45:54 PM
Who knows st louis? Help me call a hotel close, plz!
Great lead in for a cheesy Hotwire commercial.
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Post by: IPA4Me on March 16, 2014, 06:46:01 PM
Who knows st louis? Help me call a hotel close, plz!Stay in Illinois. It's ghetto cheap.
Post by: EMADUB on March 16, 2014, 06:47:03 PM
http://kentucky.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1383&tid=199330207&mid=199330207&sid=888&style=2
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On paper, we shouldn't have a lot of problems, but if it was played on paper, it would have to be a really big piece of paper.:lol:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2014, 06:47:47 PM
You thought your alum was unworthy of top matchups :lol:Trim did the opposite of nailing it.
I'm sure I'll regret engaging you, but how so?
Post by: Trim on March 16, 2014, 06:58:39 PM
You thought your alum was unworthy of top matchups :lol:Trim did the opposite of nailing it.
I'm sure I'll regret engaging you, but how so?
Link?
Post by: kcpowercat on March 16, 2014, 07:40:41 PM
Who knows st louis? Help me call a hotel close, plz!
West End is cool....downtown is pretty meh.
Post by: Kat Kid on March 16, 2014, 07:43:41 PM
Who knows st louis? Help me call a hotel close, plz!
West End is cool....downtown is pretty meh.
the transportation is pretty good so don't worry too much about hotel location as long as it is close to the train lines.
Post by: kcpowercat on March 16, 2014, 07:45:56 PM
Who knows st louis? Help me call a hotel close, plz!
West End is cool....downtown is pretty meh.
the transportation is pretty good so don't worry too much about hotel location as long as it is close to the train lines.
Yup...
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 16, 2014, 07:46:15 PM
Guys, I am going to go out on a limb and say KState is the last 8 seed (#32 on the overall ranking). I could see us being anywhere from 32 to 36....but will be very surprised if we are a 10 seed.
If we get that 8, I think we will likely play a Pac 10 team. If we get a 9 seed then I would guess we get Memphis or UMass. I think our chances of being in St Louis are pretty good. Anyway.... here is what I got
1 seeds = 1. Florida 2. Arizona 3. Wich St 4. Michigan
2 seeds = 5. Nova 6. Wisconsin 7. Virginia 8. KU
3 seeds = 9. Iowa St 10. Duke 11. Lville 12. Syracuse
4 seeds = 13. Crieghton 14. Mich St 15. Cincy 16. SD St
5 seeds = 17. Ucla 18. N Carolina 19. UConn 20. OU
6 seeds = 21. VCU 22. N Mexico 23. Ohio St 24. SLU
7 seeds = 25. Kentucky 26. Baylor 27. Texas 28. Oregon
8 seeds = 29. UMass 30. G Wash 31. Memphis 32. KState
9 seeds = 33. Gonz 34. Ok St 35. Stanford 36. Colorado
10 seeds = 37. Iowa 38. St Joe 39. Pitt 40. Ariz St
11 seeds = 41. Nebraska 42. Tenn 43 Prov
Last 4 teams in = SMU, Xavier, Dayton, BYU
*Of those 47 teams... 46 made it in (NC St made it over SMU).
Lunardi only miss was also having SMU in and NC St out. Palm also only miss was having SMU in and NC St out
*I got 22 of those above with correct seed. Lunardi got 20 right. Palm got 16 right.
*Only 2 of those 46 I was off my more than 1 seed line(UMass got a 6, UConn got a 7).
Lunardi had 7 teams he was off by more than 1 seed line. Palm had 8 teams that he was off by more than 1 seed line.
I said all along that Lunardi is better than Palm, but neither was an almighty Guru of bracketology. Some ordinary KState sports fan can do a better job predicting.
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Post by: Powercat Posse on March 16, 2014, 09:34:28 PM
I've enjoyed you and _FAN's bracket posts these past few weeks, PP.
PowercatPosse, good job on your efforts. I enjoyed them a lot.
My pleasure guys. I love doing them. I try my best to keep everyone informed once Feb gets here.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2014, 09:58:51 PM
How in the actual rough ridin' did Baylor get a 6?
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After the protected 1-4 seeds, the committee moves teams around because of several factors (avoiding conference matchups, avoiding 2nd round rematches, keeping teams close to home, etc.)
Post by: Lefty on March 16, 2014, 10:01:34 PM
pg. 1-10 is fantastic banter of Pullen's Senior year journey to a surprise #5 seed vs. Utah St.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 16, 2014, 10:30:38 PM
How in the actual rough ridin' did Baylor get a 6?
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After the protected 1-4 seeds, the committee moves teams around because of several factors (avoiding conference matchups, avoiding 2nd round rematches, keeping teams close to home, etc.)
Exactly right. Last year, Villanova was the overall 38th ranked team (meening 2nd best 10 seed).... but they got a 9 seed cause making them a 10 had its conflicts. So Colorado was the 36th overall ranked team got a 10 seed. This is just 1 example
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 17, 2014, 12:22:30 AM
KState was the 33rd overall seed. Colorado was 32. So we could have been the 8 seed playing Pitt with 1 seed FLA lurking, and CU could have been playing UK in the 8 vs 9 game in St Louis
Pitt definitely easier game than UK, but I am glad we are not in Fla bracket
You can see overall rankings on here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament
Post by: SdK on March 17, 2014, 12:38:20 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 17, 2014, 08:00:10 AM
Am I the only one that thinks it is odd to have three play in games for the same region? Or have I just never noticed this before.
No, this is unusual. I wonder when the NCAA will address the advantage these bubble teams are that are playing in the first four have. Since the first four has been instituted one of those teams have made the Sweet 16.
Post by: GCJayhawker on March 17, 2014, 10:36:18 AM
There is always a top seed every year who has a ridiculous draw, there is a reason every year people try to find the "region of death". WSU wanted to be treated like a top dog, well welcome to the party Shocks.
Post by: pissclams on March 17, 2014, 10:43:48 AM
Obviously WSU got a very tough region and draw, but the committee did not have some conspiracy to knock them out of the tournament.
There is always a top seed every year who has a ridiculous draw, there is a reason every year people try to find the "region of death". WSU wanted to be treated like a top dog, well welcome to the party Shocks.
yup, welcome to the party shocks just leave your keys with the DD and grab yourself a red solo cup b/c it's time to play some beer pong right now and then prob do some crazy crap like jump off the roof into the pool. b/c that is where you're at now shocks, it's time to play the big boy game and none of this school yard crap. come bring your a game shocks. of course you are now scared and walking away shocks b/c you don't have big boy stones gmafb shocks, get out of here with your weak crap.
shocks = ketchup
k-state = shrimp cocktail sauce with tons of horseradish
BRING IT.
Post by: GCJayhawker on March 17, 2014, 11:15:27 AM
Obviously WSU got a very tough region and draw, but the committee did not have some conspiracy to knock them out of the tournament.
There is always a top seed every year who has a ridiculous draw, there is a reason every year people try to find the "region of death". WSU wanted to be treated like a top dog, well welcome to the party Shocks.
yup, welcome to the party shocks just leave your keys with the DD and grab yourself a red solo cup b/c it's time to play some beer pong right now and then prob do some crazy crap like jump off the roof into the pool. b/c that is where you're at now shocks, it's time to play the big boy game and none of this school yard crap. come bring your a game shocks. of course you are now scared and walking away shocks b/c you don't have big boy stones gmafb shocks, get out of here with your weak crap.
shocks = ketchup
k-state = shrimp cocktail sauce with tons of horseradish
BRING IT.
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Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2014, 11:28:47 AM
Kentucky was 29th overall seed. N Mexico was 28th. Had those 2 been switched. We could have been playing N Mexico. And UK could have been a 7 seed with 2 seed KU
KState was the 33rd overall seed. Colorado was 32. So we could have been the 8 seed playing Pitt with 1 seed FLA lurking, and CU could have been playing UK in the 8 vs 9 game in St Louis
Pitt definitely easier game than UK, but I am glad we are not in Fla bracket
You can see overall rankings on here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament
are those rankings official?
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 17, 2014, 11:47:33 AM
The only top 4 seed that I really don't think can make the Final 4 is SD St. They play great defense but they have a hard time scoring the ball and N Mexico was close to beating them 3 times (SD ST had to rally to win at home by 3. NMex won other 2 games). Extremely balanced field and if the over/under was 1.5 on the number of 1 seeds that make the Final 4..... I would take the under.
You can see overall rankings on here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament
are those rankings official?
Michigan Cat... I cant say 100 percent that those overall rankings are official. Last year, the Monday after selection Sunday I found an article than listed all 68 teams by ranking... and when i checked Wikipedia that same day, they also had the teams with overall rank (and both had the same ranks). I could not find any article yet this year on overall rankings..... so hopefully this one I posted is correct.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 17, 2014, 11:55:21 AM
Wacky posted an article by CBS on overall ranks in another thread but here it is too
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24487953/official-ncaa-1-68-seeding-order
Post by: 'taterblast on April 09, 2014, 12:56:12 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Post by: PowercatPat on April 09, 2014, 12:57:19 PM
the eff, lunardi?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Why does he have KU as a 1?
Post by: PowercatPat on April 09, 2014, 12:58:54 PM
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Post by: OK_Cat on April 09, 2014, 01:15:10 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 09, 2014, 01:16:56 PM
the eff, lunardi?Man he is completely off his rocker, he has Tulsa ahead of Cincinnati. :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
I assume he doesn't use computer projections, computers should loves us for what little we lose.
Post by: wazucat on April 09, 2014, 02:20:57 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 09, 2014, 02:23:05 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 09, 2014, 02:54:10 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 09, 2014, 03:00:37 PM
the eff, lunardi?Man he is completely off his rocker, he has Tulsa ahead of Cincinnati. :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
I assume he doesn't use computer projections, computers should loves us for what little we lose.
He's rough ridin' high if he thinks Minnesota is getting in.
Post by: 'taterblast on April 09, 2014, 03:03:13 PM
:nono: gonna be tough replacing Sprads production apparently.
there was an article recently, can't remember exactly which, that said it was going to be tough to replace spradling, with no mention of southwell
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 09, 2014, 03:11:07 PM
Post by: GCJayhawker on April 09, 2014, 04:22:38 PM
the eff, lunardi?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
:gocho:
Post by: Powercat Posse on April 09, 2014, 11:31:55 PM
Post by: bones129 on April 09, 2014, 11:51:31 PM
I can see why people care what Joey Brackets thinks about in Feb and March. No clue why anyone gives a crap what he thinks about 2nd week in April.
What he thinks now about next season facilitates new threads on boards, I guess. Kind of like the idiots who start predicting the next presidential candidates the day after an election but before all the scandals about such potential candidates surface. :dunno:
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 10, 2014, 09:39:21 AM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 10, 2014, 10:26:54 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on April 10, 2014, 10:40:36 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 10, 2014, 11:27:19 AM
Because Joey Brackets perception of teams reflects ESPN's so that has something to do with how each team will be covered leading up to the season? :dunno:
Eamonn Brennan had us at 24th. We will be ranked in the preseason, or at least RV, and then he'll post a new bracket with us as 7 seed or something in early November.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2014, 11:27:29 AM
because telling lunardi to eff off feels like, super good
This is why I enjoy it. He's the perfect guy for it.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 13, 2014, 02:45:29 PM
https://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Post by: Dub on November 13, 2014, 02:58:18 PM
Post by: That_Guy on November 13, 2014, 04:24:45 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on November 13, 2014, 04:33:07 PM
Wisky in the 2nd round.. sounds about right.
Lol that we would win a Ro64 game
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 13, 2014, 04:34:17 PM
It's going to happen this year. Line up fools. I'll put down a 6 pack bet on it.Wisky in the 2nd round.. sounds about right.
Lol that we would win a Ro64 game
Post by: sunny_cat on November 13, 2014, 05:09:52 PM
Wisky in the 2nd round.. sounds about right.
Lol that we would win a Ro64 game
:curse:
Post by: SdK on January 19, 2015, 10:40:11 AM
Post by: Prince McJunkins on January 19, 2015, 11:00:14 AM
Vs Seton Hall then potentially VCU would be a very favorable region. Of course Virgina would dismantle us if we made it that far.
Post by: A$APCornBall on January 19, 2015, 11:13:30 AM
Post by: Pete on January 19, 2015, 12:13:09 PM
Beat ISU and Okie Lite this week, should bump us up at least. Gonna lose my dhit though if we end up as an 8 or 9 this year.
And in Kentucky's region
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on January 26, 2015, 10:08:00 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
:alleyoop:
Post by: SEK_EMAW on January 26, 2015, 10:12:38 AM
Post by: scottwildcat on January 26, 2015, 10:18:14 AM
Co-11 seed with NC State in the East...
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
:alleyoop:
We would go to the E8 in that bracket
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 26, 2015, 10:26:19 AM
Post by: cDubya on January 26, 2015, 11:07:45 AM
Co-11 seed with NC State in the East...
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
:alleyoop:
We would go to the E8 in that bracket
Wanna trade regions? :ohno:
Post by: yoman on January 27, 2015, 04:39:12 PM
Co-11 seed with NC State in the East...
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
:alleyoop:
Surely oscar can win a play-in tournament game, can't he?
Post by: TownieCat on February 04, 2015, 05:05:31 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12280636/syracuse-basketball-team-self-imposes-postseason-ban-year-response-ncaa-investigation (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12280636/syracuse-basketball-team-self-imposes-postseason-ban-year-response-ncaa-investigation)
Post by: Mr Bread on February 04, 2015, 05:13:25 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 04, 2015, 05:18:45 PM
they weren't going to make it anyway.This cancels out an upset to them in the 2nd round of the NIT. :excited:
Post by: Mr Bread on February 04, 2015, 05:22:59 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 04, 2015, 05:23:23 PM
One less team to worry about! :Woohoo:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12280636/syracuse-basketball-team-self-imposes-postseason-ban-year-response-ncaa-investigation (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12280636/syracuse-basketball-team-self-imposes-postseason-ban-year-response-ncaa-investigation)
boeheim reportedly charged darryl gross and wanted to fight him when the decision was made. the question is, does he now quit, take his ball, and go coach at mississippi state?
Post by: Mr Bread on February 04, 2015, 05:25:59 PM
they weren't going to make it anyway.This cancels out an upset to them in the 2nd round of the NIT. :excited:
oscar would have made Boeheim eff himself with his own old man penis. It's a missed opportunity is what it is.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 04, 2015, 05:27:55 PM
One less team to worry about! :Woohoo:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12280636/syracuse-basketball-team-self-imposes-postseason-ban-year-response-ncaa-investigation (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12280636/syracuse-basketball-team-self-imposes-postseason-ban-year-response-ncaa-investigation)
boeheim reportedly charged darryl gross and wanted to fight him when the decision was made. the question is, does he now quit, take his ball, and go coach at mississippi state?
Gross wanted to sweep it under the rug and Boeheim demanded under threat of quitting on the spot that they handle it in an honorable fashion. I'm hearing the NCAA wasn't going to do anything and Boeheim still fell on the sword because he is a great man of great deeds and honor.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 04, 2015, 05:30:51 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 04, 2015, 05:31:51 PM
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location: syracuse, ny
street: buckingham ave
Post by: Mr Bread on February 04, 2015, 05:34:22 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 17, 2015, 12:12:25 AM
Post by: michigancat on February 17, 2015, 12:19:12 AM
https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/567563196232663040LOL
Post by: Tobias on February 17, 2015, 12:52:50 AM
Post by: yoman on February 17, 2015, 09:09:51 AM
https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/567563196232663040
Be butthurt all you want but a. That was stud answer and b. He's got a valid point.
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 17, 2015, 03:49:44 PM
Yeah, knocking off TCU and winning 3 of the 4 of @BAY, @TEX, KU, and ISU is a stretch. But it'd be great.https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/567563196232663040
Be butthurt all you want but a. That was stud answer and b. He's got a valid point.
A real question to be asking, is do we still have a shot at the NIT? I think barring a freak winning streak we are hitting combo season early this year.
Post by: wetwillie on February 17, 2015, 05:53:35 PM
Yeah, knocking off TCU and winning 3 of the 4 of @BAY, @TEX, KU, and ISU is a stretch. But it'd be great.https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/567563196232663040
Be butthurt all you want but a. That was stud answer and b. He's got a valid point.
A real question to be asking, is do we still have a shot at the NIT? I think barring a freak winning streak we are hitting combo season early this year.
0 thru 2/5 No NIT 3/5 NIT 4/5 NCAA
Post by: Harmon4ksu on February 18, 2015, 11:15:33 AM
Yeah, knocking off TCU and winning 3 of the 4 of @BAY, @TEX, KU, and ISU is a stretch. But it'd be great.https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/567563196232663040
Be butthurt all you want but a. That was stud answer and b. He's got a valid point.
A real question to be asking, is do we still have a shot at the NIT? I think barring a freak winning streak we are hitting combo season early this year.
0 thru 2/5 No NIT 3/5 NIT 4/5 NCAA
*Might* be able to steal one in KC too
Post by: 'taterblast on February 18, 2015, 11:20:32 AM
Post by: yoman on February 18, 2015, 12:34:31 PM
i can't believe i'm allowing myself to consider the possibility.
I won't until we have the first two secured with a chance to get 3 or 4. Call it pessimist, but I am done being let down by this team.
Post by: Skipper44 on February 18, 2015, 01:00:57 PM
even 4/5 and a loss in KC means 15 total losses, can DeBruce make history?i can't believe i'm allowing myself to consider the possibility.
I won't until we have the first two secured with a chance to get 3 or 4. Call it pessimist, but I am done being let down by this team.
Most losses for at-large teams (since 1985)
Team Year Won Lost Pct.
| Villanova 1991 16 14 .533 Georgia 2001 16 14 .533 Kansas State 1990 17 14 .548 Villanova 1990 18 14 .563 Arizona 2008 19 14 .576 LSU 1987 21 14 .600 LSU 1988 16 13 .552 |
Post by: TownieCat on February 18, 2015, 01:45:41 PM
even 4/5 and a loss in KC means 15 total losses, can DeBruce make history?i can't believe i'm allowing myself to consider the possibility.
I won't until we have the first two secured with a chance to get 3 or 4. Call it pessimist, but I am done being let down by this team.
Most losses for at-large teams (since 1985)
Team Year Won Lost Pct.http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/ncaa-tournament/history/atlarge (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/ncaa-tournament/history/atlarge)
Villanova 1991 16 14 .533
Georgia 2001 16 14 .533
Kansas State 1990 17 14 .548
Villanova 1990 18 14 .563
Arizona 2008 19 14 .576
LSU 1987 21 14 .600
LSU 1988 16 13 .552
There were also 5 teams that received at large bids with 14 losses in 2011. Weird that they weren't included. Tennessee even got a 9 seed at 19-14.
Regardless, no team has ever gotten in with 15 losses. If we only lose two more games including the P66 we could be the first.
Post by: Skipper44 on February 18, 2015, 02:18:59 PM
I would say the most optimistic scenario short of just winning out the regular season or winning the P66 is finishing 6th thereby avoiding KU until the championship game and hopefully WVU.even 4/5 and a loss in KC means 15 total losses, can DeBruce make history?i can't believe i'm allowing myself to consider the possibility.
I won't until we have the first two secured with a chance to get 3 or 4. Call it pessimist, but I am done being let down by this team.
Most losses for at-large teams (since 1985)
Team Year Won Lost Pct.http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/ncaa-tournament/history/atlarge (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/ncaa-tournament/history/atlarge)
Villanova 1991 16 14 .533
Georgia 2001 16 14 .533
Kansas State 1990 17 14 .548
Villanova 1990 18 14 .563
Arizona 2008 19 14 .576
LSU 1987 21 14 .600
LSU 1988 16 13 .552
There were also 5 teams that received at large bids with 14 losses in 2011. Weird that they weren't included. Tennessee even got a 9 seed at 19-14.
Regardless, no team has ever gotten in with 15 losses. If we only lose two more games including the P66 we could be the first.
My dream bracket would be OSU in the first round, OU in the second and hope we get ISU in the championship game. Just making the championship game with this bracket would give us at least 8 or 9 "wins over teams in the field" and maybe more if Purdue and/or ATM finish strong.
Post by: #LIFE on February 18, 2015, 02:34:59 PM
Post by: AppleJack on February 18, 2015, 02:46:03 PM
Post by: 8manpick on February 18, 2015, 02:55:22 PM
Post by: kslim on February 18, 2015, 02:58:03 PM
What the eff is going on in here?steffy has hacked everyone simultaneously
Post by: Skipper44 on February 18, 2015, 03:21:53 PM
LOL at all this. we're losing tonight.that is exactly why I am enjoying this little window right now
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 18, 2015, 03:30:37 PM
What the eff is going on in here?steffy has hacked everyone simultaneously
I lol'd
Post by: kslim on February 19, 2015, 08:13:10 AM
LOL at all this. we're losing tonight.(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthe-mainboard.com%2Fstyles%2Fdefault%2Fxenforo%2Feastereggs%2Facc.gif&hash=ae03f73b02fe8bb85a6190b1a64fcfd725388897)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 19, 2015, 08:27:51 AM
i can't believe i'm allowing myself to consider the possibility.
idiot
Post by: 'taterblast on February 19, 2015, 08:44:46 AM
i can't believe i'm allowing myself to consider the possibility.
idiot
:buh-bye:
Post by: #LIFE on February 19, 2015, 08:51:24 AM
Post by: TownieCat on February 19, 2015, 08:57:24 AM
Anyone still give a crap enough to look up what oscar's road record is the last 2 years?
3-15 in true road games and 6-21 in all non-home games, if you count TA&M and Gonzaga as home games.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 19, 2015, 08:59:38 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 19, 2015, 09:17:42 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 19, 2015, 09:36:29 AM
All we have to do is win the Big 12 tourney, _FAN.
Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane.
Post by: Tobias on February 19, 2015, 09:51:07 AM
Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVPAPHP8.png&hash=16ade69f403308d572367f92a79a94ca306b6a77)
Post by: pissclams on February 19, 2015, 09:51:47 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on February 23, 2015, 11:07:00 PM
beat ISU
beat Texas
16-15 (9-9) at end of regular season
big 12 tourney
beat Tech (10 seed)
beat Iowa St (2 seed)
lose in semi game
finish 18-15 (11-10) after big 12 tourney
wins over (current RPI)
A&M (34)
OU x2, (16)
Baylor (14)
KU (1)
Okla St (29)
Iowa St x2 (9)
Texas (40)
that's 9 wins over top 50 RPI
do we make the tourney in this scenario?
Post by: wetwillie on February 23, 2015, 11:08:04 PM
ok guys, this is pretty stupid but this blog has been going down hill for a while so i figure what the hell.
beat ISU
beat Texas
16-15 (9-9) at end of regular season
big 12 tourney
beat Tech (10 seed)
beat Iowa St (2 seed)
lose in Champ. game
finish 18-15 (11-10) after big 12 tourney
wins over (current RPI)
A&M (34)
OU x2, (16)
Baylor (14)
KU (1)
Okla St (29)
Iowa St x2 (9)
Texas (40)
that's 9 wins over top 50 RPI
do we make the tourney in this scenario?
Yes we do
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 23, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
Post by: Steffy08 on February 23, 2015, 11:11:37 PM
ok guys, this is pretty stupid but this blog has been going down hill for a while so i figure what the hell.
beat ISU
beat Texas
16-15 (9-9) at end of regular season
big 12 tourney
beat Tech (10 seed)
beat Iowa St (2 seed)
lose in Champ. game
finish 18-15 (11-10) after big 12 tourney
wins over (current RPI)
A&M (34)
OU x2, (16)
Baylor (14)
KU (1)
Okla St (29)
Iowa St x2 (9)
Texas (40)
that's 9 wins over top 50 RPI
do we make the tourney in this scenario?
Yes we do
18-16.
We could if ut goes into tailspin. Big 12 not getting 8.
Post by: nicname on February 23, 2015, 11:12:34 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on February 23, 2015, 11:16:40 PM
Post by: TownieCat on February 23, 2015, 11:39:09 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 23, 2015, 11:42:17 PM
Post by: bones129 on February 23, 2015, 11:47:45 PM
Cats have to kill it in KC in order to get into the dance
Nothing short of winning the tourney will get us in The Dance. Nothing.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 23, 2015, 11:48:51 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 23, 2015, 11:49:00 PM
Post by: ksu101 on December 18, 2015, 11:37:06 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
Post by: TownieCat on December 18, 2015, 12:02:06 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 18, 2015, 12:51:35 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 18, 2015, 12:54:16 PM
Post by: Prince McJunkins on December 18, 2015, 03:13:35 PM
I'm so tired of seeing Wichita State in these brackets. They're rough ridin' 5-4 with some bad losses. Yes, their PG was out, but JFC, everyone humps their dicks.
They put Utah away pretty handily. Their schedule is pretty light here on out, so I can't see more than a couple losses. So a 9 seed seems about right.
Post by: sunny_cat on December 18, 2015, 03:52:58 PM
I'm so tired of seeing Wichita State in these brackets. They're rough ridin' 5-4 with some bad losses. Yes, their PG was out, but JFC, everyone humps their dicks.
:love:
this is a good wackycat08 post
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 18, 2015, 03:59:53 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 18, 2015, 04:01:52 PM
That's fine and all, but they're stupid and have stupid faces and I hate them. All of their "big wins" have been at home.I'm so tired of seeing Wichita State in these brackets. They're rough ridin' 5-4 with some bad losses. Yes, their PG was out, but JFC, everyone humps their dicks.
They put Utah away pretty handily. Their schedule is pretty light here on out, so I can't see more than a couple losses. So a 9 seed seems about right.
Post by: Unruly on December 18, 2015, 04:17:22 PM
Post by: AbeFroman on December 18, 2015, 08:40:26 PM
12 seed!!!!! :surprised:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
First round game vs USC?
I swear I've seen this episode before.
But, oscar :frown:
Post by: MakeItRain on December 19, 2015, 03:10:42 AM
That's fine and all, but they're stupid and have stupid faces and I hate them. All of their "big wins" have been at home.I'm so tired of seeing Wichita State in these brackets. They're rough ridin' 5-4 with some bad losses. Yes, their PG was out, but JFC, everyone humps their dicks.
They put Utah away pretty handily. Their schedule is pretty light here on out, so I can't see more than a couple losses. So a 9 seed seems about right.
He has them in as the conference champion not an at large.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 19, 2015, 08:38:18 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2015, 11:11:27 AM
Oh, still... :curse:That's fine and all, but they're stupid and have stupid faces and I hate them. All of their "big wins" have been at home.I'm so tired of seeing Wichita State in these brackets. They're rough ridin' 5-4 with some bad losses. Yes, their PG was out, but JFC, everyone humps their dicks.
They put Utah away pretty handily. Their schedule is pretty light here on out, so I can't see more than a couple losses. So a 9 seed seems about right.
He has them in as the conference champion not an at large.
Post by: ksu101 on January 16, 2016, 08:45:55 AM
Post by: SdK on January 16, 2016, 08:48:59 AM
Listed as the first team left out on CBS.Seriously?
Post by: SdK on January 16, 2016, 08:54:18 AM
Confirmed. A win today and we are in. !!!Listed as the first team left out on CBS.Seriously?
Post by: ksu101 on January 16, 2016, 09:09:36 AM
Confirmed. A win today and we are in. !!!Listed as the first team left out on CBS.Seriously?
Funny what a win over Texas Tech will do for a team these days. Also, it's worth noting a win today could push our RPI into the 30s.
Post by: Tobias on January 16, 2016, 09:10:08 AM
Post by: ksu101 on January 16, 2016, 09:13:22 AM
will a loss do it too?
possibly. :dunno:
Post by: 'taterblast on January 25, 2016, 11:57:24 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
Post by: 'taterblast on January 25, 2016, 11:58:06 AM
Post by: scottwildcat on January 25, 2016, 12:24:42 PM
and lol at ku being matched up with duke/wich st
:bracketmouse:
Post by: cfbandyman on January 25, 2016, 04:27:11 PM
and lol at ku being matched up with duke/wich st
They'll be paired but ku will be like a 3 seed and WSU like a 6. I know that seems crazy but WSU probably is winning out and ku is going to lose many more games. But who knows, maybe ku gets a 2 a WSU is a 7. Either way will be fun to see ku fall to them, again.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 25, 2016, 04:38:12 PM
Post by: Gooch on January 25, 2016, 04:48:29 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 25, 2016, 06:36:39 PM
I couldn't handle living here in Wichita with another lead up to that game. Would be beyond unbearable again.
Just living in Wichita in general seems like it would be unbearable.
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on January 25, 2016, 06:52:14 PM
I couldn't handle living here in Wichita with another lead up to that game. Would be beyond unbearable again.
True dat. But the meltdown from the KU elites that I work with would be glorious.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 25, 2016, 08:20:54 PM
That bbq tho! :lol:I couldn't handle living here in Wichita with another lead up to that game. Would be beyond unbearable again.
Just living in Wichita in general seems like it would be unbearable.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 26, 2016, 11:25:46 AM
That bbq tho! :lol:I couldn't handle living here in Wichita with another lead up to that game. Would be beyond unbearable again.
Just living in Wichita in general seems like it would be unbearable.
I know, right? :lick:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 01, 2016, 01:26:27 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Post by: Gooch on February 01, 2016, 04:25:12 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 01, 2016, 04:28:24 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 01, 2016, 04:38:42 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 01, 2016, 07:34:41 PM
Post by: dean_ksu on February 01, 2016, 08:34:04 PM
We're really going to want back a victory vs Baylor or WVU. crap, even UNC.
Sweeping the Jayhawks will be enough to push us over the hump.
Post by: ksu101 on February 01, 2016, 08:51:45 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 01, 2016, 11:07:07 PM
Win our remaining home games (OU, Bay, Tex, KU, and TCU) and somehow manage to win just one away game most likely against OSU, TCU, or Tech.... Then we are in!!!!
LOL, is that all? No problem!
Post by: TownieCat on February 02, 2016, 09:08:37 AM
Win our remaining home games (OU, Bay, Tex, KU, and TCU) and somehow manage to win just one away game most likely against OSU, TCU, or Tech.... Then we are in!!!!
LOL, is that all? No problem!
We have a better chance of winning 4 games in KC :th_twocents:
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 02, 2016, 09:28:46 AM
NIT! NIT! NIT!
The NIT is a pipe dream. We are going to finish the season with a losing record.
Post by: 'taterblast on February 02, 2016, 09:32:19 AM
Post by: pissclams on February 02, 2016, 11:14:56 AM
not saying that the ku game in lawrence is going to be one of those wins, but we should all expect it to happen at some point each season
Post by: kso_FAN on February 02, 2016, 11:17:11 AM
oscar is going to win a game or two that he has no business winning, it happens
not saying that the ku game in lawrence is going to be one of those wins, but we should all expect it to happen at some point each season
Yes, this is what oscar does. I mean, this team isn't bad (when I think of bad, I think Mizzou).
Also, because of the 11-2 OOC, I think there is a very good shot of the NIT for this team. I think we'll finish 17-14 (6-12) at worst.
Post by: ChiComCat on February 02, 2016, 11:24:02 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 02, 2016, 11:39:48 AM
oscar has a Wooly team +1 good win and + 1 bad loss
We'll see how this year finishes, but oscar generally has many more quality wins (Top 50). Each of his first 3 seasons, oscar had at least 7 top 50 kenpom wins and at least 3 vs the Top 25. Wooly never had more than 3 Top 50 kenpom wins in any season and had a total of 2 Top 25 wins his last 5 seasons.
Comparing bad losses has been somewhat similar, but Wooly was still worse. Wooly had seasons with only 2 bad losses (rated 100 or worse kenpom), but also multiple seasons with 4 and his last season had 7. oscar had 3 bad losses last year and 2 the year before.
oscar is frustrating and last year was terrible, but he's not even close to being as bad as Wooly. This year has been weird so far because oscar has no top 50 wins (best win kenpom 56 Tech), but no bad losses either (worst loss kenpom 29 Baylor), which is really the definition of mediocre.
Post by: #LIFE on February 02, 2016, 11:40:24 AM
I think we'll finish 17-14 (6-12) at worst.
Rinse and repeat for next year :frown:
Post by: pissclams on February 02, 2016, 11:43:15 AM
on one hand, i think we'll be pretty good next year but i know oscar struggles with player development and i temper my expectation.I think we'll finish 17-14 (6-12) at worst.
Rinse and repeat for next year :frown:
even taking that into account i think we'll be better
Post by: kso_FAN on February 02, 2016, 11:47:22 AM
on one hand, i think we'll be pretty good next year but i know oscar struggles with player development and i temper my expectation.I think we'll finish 17-14 (6-12) at worst.
Rinse and repeat for next year :frown:
even taking that into account i think we'll be better
I agree, but I've got to see some roster stability in the off season (anyone leaving besides Freeman will be a concern) to go along with your concern about development. Losing Edwards and Hurt won't be huge and oscar is adding a pretty good player in Xavier Sneed. Plus Williams/Maurice.
If next season isn't a tournament team oscar should be done.
Post by: ChiComCat on February 02, 2016, 11:52:12 AM
oscar has a Wooly team +1 good win and + 1 bad loss
We'll see how this year finishes, but oscar generally has many more quality wins (Top 50). Each of his first 3 seasons, oscar had at least 7 top 50 kenpom wins and at least 3 vs the Top 25. Wooly never had more than 3 Top 50 kenpom wins in any season and had a total of 2 Top 25 wins his last 5 seasons.
Comparing bad losses has been somewhat similar, but Wooly was still worse. Wooly had seasons with only 2 bad losses (rated 100 or worse kenpom), but also multiple seasons with 4 and his last season had 7. oscar had 3 bad losses last year and 2 the year before.
oscar is frustrating and last year was terrible, but he's not even close to being as bad as Wooly. This year has been weird so far because oscar has no top 50 wins (best win kenpom 56 Tech), but no bad losses either (worst loss kenpom 29 Baylor), which is really the definition of mediocre.
I give oscar very little credit for the first year here. I picture him of just now settling into a Wooly like groove which involves bringing in young players and hoping fans mistake minutes/opportunity for quality.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 02, 2016, 11:57:39 AM
I give oscar very little credit for the first year here. I picture him of just now settling into a Wooly like groove which involves bringing in young players and hoping fans mistake minutes/opportunity for quality.
That's fair. FWIW, even his last 6 years at Illinois, he averaged 5 Top 50 wins and 1.5 worse than 100 losses.
He's way more annoying, but his coaching record is much, much better than Wooly. Its not even close really, even with "his own" teams.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 02, 2016, 12:02:20 PM
Post by: CNS on February 02, 2016, 12:08:48 PM
on one hand, i think we'll be pretty good next year but i know oscar struggles with player development and i temper my expectation.I think we'll finish 17-14 (6-12) at worst.
Rinse and repeat for next year :frown:
even taking that into account i think we'll be better
I agree, but I've got to see some roster stability in the off season (anyone leaving besides Freeman will be a concern) to go along with your concern about development. Losing Edwards and Hurt won't be huge and oscar is adding a pretty good player in Xavier Sneed. Plus Williams/Maurice.
If next season isn't a tournament team oscar should be done.
Edwards was leading most of our stat categories up until conf season started. I am not a fan, but this team would be much worse off, record wise, without him.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 02, 2016, 12:16:44 PM
Edwards was leading most of our stat categories up until conf season started. I am not a fan, but this team would be much worse off, record wise, without him.
Oh, this team, most definitely. At one point I thought he could be an all league player, but he's not and his role/importance has become reduced as the season progresses. If he had truly lived up to being all league, we'd be a bubble team right now.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 02, 2016, 01:32:12 PM
I give oscar very little credit for the first year here. I picture him of just now settling into a Wooly like groove which involves bringing in young players and hoping fans mistake minutes/opportunity for quality.
That's fair. FWIW, even his last 6 years at Illinois, he averaged 5 Top 50 wins and 1.5 worse than 100 losses.
He's way more annoying, but his coaching record is much, much better than Wooly. Its not even close really, even with "his own" teams.
His talent level is WAY down here though, so does that change the equation going forward?
Post by: MakeItRain on February 02, 2016, 01:33:51 PM
on one hand, i think we'll be pretty good next year but i know oscar struggles with player development and i temper my expectation.I think we'll finish 17-14 (6-12) at worst.
Rinse and repeat for next year :frown:
even taking that into account i think we'll be better
I agree, but I've got to see some roster stability in the off season (anyone leaving besides Freeman will be a concern) to go along with your concern about development. Losing Edwards and Hurt won't be huge and oscar is adding a pretty good player in Xavier Sneed. Plus Williams/Maurice.
If next season isn't a tournament team oscar should be done.
Edwards was leading most of our stat categories up until conf season started. I am not a fan, but this team would be much worse off, record wise, without him.
Edward's being a stat leader isn't an endorsement of his skills but an indictment of the talent around him.
Post by: CNS on February 02, 2016, 01:40:53 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 02, 2016, 01:41:29 PM
I give oscar very little credit for the first year here. I picture him of just now settling into a Wooly like groove which involves bringing in young players and hoping fans mistake minutes/opportunity for quality.
That's fair. FWIW, even his last 6 years at Illinois, he averaged 5 Top 50 wins and 1.5 worse than 100 losses.
He's way more annoying, but his coaching record is much, much better than Wooly. Its not even close really, even with "his own" teams.
His talent level is WAY down here though, so does that change the equation going forward?
Its actually not that much different. From 04 to 08 he was getting 1 four star a year mixed with mainly 3 stars, similar to what he is doing here. The last couple years before he got fired he actually was doing better and pulled in 9 four star players in the 09 through 11 classes.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 02, 2016, 02:16:35 PM
I give oscar very little credit for the first year here. I picture him of just now settling into a Wooly like groove which involves bringing in young players and hoping fans mistake minutes/opportunity for quality.
That's fair. FWIW, even his last 6 years at Illinois, he averaged 5 Top 50 wins and 1.5 worse than 100 losses.
He's way more annoying, but his coaching record is much, much better than Wooly. Its not even close really, even with "his own" teams.
His talent level is WAY down here though, so does that change the equation going forward?
Its actually not that much different. From 04 to 08 he was getting 1 four star a year mixed with mainly 3 stars, similar to what he is doing here. The last couple years before he got fired he actually was doing better and pulled in 9 four star players in the 09 through 11 classes.
In that six year period, 09-11 makes up half that time period, and as you pointed out they had plenty of 4* kids in those three years. The three years before that he was signing three star kids that had multiple P5 offers (the vast majority of them anyway). Most of our three star guys have 0-1 P5 offers. Now, it may not make a bunch of difference in the on-court results, but I think his Illinois teams were distinctly more talented than his teams here.
Post by: Skipper44 on February 02, 2016, 02:52:51 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 02, 2016, 02:56:07 PM
He was able to recruit real P5 post players at Illinois. So far he has given us the Big Meat brigade and Claws. I mean, DJamer is the best big he can claim after 4 years :(You can't claim that yet, since we don't know how the two bigs are that he brought in this year. We can't help they got the bubonic plaque.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 02, 2016, 03:03:23 PM
In that six year period, 09-11 makes up half that time period, and as you pointed out they had plenty of 4* kids in those three years. The three years before that he was signing three star kids that had multiple P5 offers (the vast majority of them anyway). Most of our three star guys have 0-1 P5 offers. Now, it may not make a bunch of difference in the on-court results, but I think his Illinois teams were distinctly more talented than his teams here.
That's fair.
I will only say that he's managed to recruit multiple 3 stars that appear to be Big 12 caliber players. DJamer, Westicles, Marcus, Nigel, Stokes, and Brown all had plenty of moments of showing themselves to be much better than expected early in their careers. The problem is only DJamer and Westicles have been here multiple years and stayed and both have shown slight improvement, but not enough to be all league caliber players by their junior year. You've got to have some of those guys develop
4 star #1 Malek Harris is gone and didn't really look like a true 4 star. I think Wade has potential to live up to his 4 star billing and be an all league player by his JR year. We'll see on Sneed.
Regardless, oscar needs to have a tournament team next year.
Post by: Skipper44 on February 02, 2016, 03:07:42 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 02, 2016, 03:23:30 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 02, 2016, 07:02:49 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on February 05, 2016, 02:54:02 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2016, 09:06:37 AM
Post by: AppleJack on February 08, 2016, 09:21:18 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2016, 09:22:19 AM
Is RPI still an important thing? If so, what is ours. Cats.Yes and #35! http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI
Post by: kso_FAN on February 08, 2016, 09:23:37 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology So close
Now is the time if we are going to put ourselves into serious bubble conversation. We probably need to win 4 of the next 5, though 3 of the next 5 might get us in the discussion.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 08, 2016, 09:25:10 AM
Is RPI still an important thing? If so, what is ours. Cats.Yes and #35! http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI
Its not as simple as that; our RPI doesn't really matter.
Our wins against the RPI Top 50 do matter. Right now we are 1-9, so we have a lot of work to do. I'd guess with no bad losses, we probably need at least 5 Top 50 wins.
Post by: TownieCat on February 08, 2016, 09:28:22 AM
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 08, 2016, 09:29:40 AM
With where we're at, i think 2 or 3 more top 50 RPI wins and no bad loses would put us on the right side of the bubble. 68 teams go dancing, we don't actually have to be good, just look that way.Is RPI still an important thing? If so, what is ours. Cats.Yes and #35! http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI
Its not as simple as that; our RPI doesn't really matter.
Our wins against the RPI Top 50 do matter. Right now we are 1-9, so we have a lot of work to do. I'd guess with no bad losses, we probably need at least 5 Top 50 wins.
Post by: TownieCat on February 08, 2016, 09:31:20 AM
Lunardi!! :shakesfist:
Post by: kso_FAN on February 08, 2016, 09:32:41 AM
Its dangerous to compare to other seasons, but last year's OSU was 4-10 vs the RPI Top 50. Texas was 3-12. Both finished 8-10 in the league and made the tournament.
Post by: #LIFE on February 08, 2016, 09:51:15 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Lunardi!! :shakesfist:
Frank vs. ku :popcorn:
Post by: TownieCat on February 08, 2016, 09:57:41 AM
Good points.
Its dangerous to compare to other seasons, but last year's OSU was 4-10 vs the RPI Top 50. Texas was 3-12. Both finished 8-10 in the league and made the tournament.
Another good example of a team with suspect RPI numbers is the 07-08 K-State team :Chirp:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2016, 10:06:14 AM
Post by: TownieCat on February 08, 2016, 11:21:02 AM
The First Four will be four teams that are even more mediocre than usual this year.
Post by: cfbandyman on February 08, 2016, 11:43:22 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Lunardi!! :shakesfist:
Frank vs. ku :popcorn:
Self will look really good in the clownsuit Frank has tailored for him.
Post by: Kat Kid on February 08, 2016, 11:55:46 AM
If you think about it, the committee has to find 36 at large teams to fill out the field. and every year a handful of average teams get in. This year two more average teams are getting in since SMU and Louisville (both of which would be locks) are banned from the tournament.
The First Four will be four teams that are even more mediocre than usual this year.
Also look at the elite teams. They have more losses than normal. Probably a 5 loss team gets on the 1 line this year, which is very rare.
Post by: sys on February 08, 2016, 12:18:19 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 08, 2016, 12:23:59 PM
win 2 of 4 of bu, ku, isu and ut. also don't lose all the games against osu, tcu and tech. that's all it takes.
2-2 and 3-1 probably does it. That will likely require at least 2 road wins.
Post by: TownieCat on February 08, 2016, 12:25:16 PM
In 2012 Michigan State was a #1 with 7 losses. Maryland, OU, and SC (:lol:) are the only P5 teams with less than 4 losses and there is still 10 games left (including conf. tourneys) so even that isn't out of the question.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 08, 2016, 02:58:01 PM
Post by: TownieCat on February 08, 2016, 03:03:59 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2016/02/08/ncaa-tournament-teams-on-the-bubble-kansas-state-lsu-indiana-wisconsin-gonzaga-wichita-state/80003324/?hootPostID=7f0dc3872b04b2531bc63814bb5c04ea
http://www.bracketwag.com/ (http://www.bracketwag.com/)
:bball:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2016, 03:05:38 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 08, 2016, 03:08:21 PM
Post by: CNS on February 08, 2016, 03:10:32 PM
win 2 of 4 of bu, ku, isu and ut. also don't lose all the games against osu, tcu and tech. that's all it takes.
2-2 and 3-1 probably does it. That will likely require at least 2 road wins.
Welp
Post by: ksu101 on February 08, 2016, 05:07:41 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 08, 2016, 05:19:34 PM
Post by: ksu101 on February 08, 2016, 05:20:46 PM
I'm not sure why wsu is getting any love. Their resume is the epitome of mediocrity
I'm pretty sure after they lost to Illinois St. They will need to win the conference tournament to get in.
Post by: AppleJack on February 09, 2016, 11:32:40 AM
http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/maryland-terrapins-iowa-villanova-latest-ncaa-mock-bracket-020916
Post by: pissclams on February 09, 2016, 12:01:56 PM
Next Four Out
http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/maryland-terrapins-iowa-villanova-latest-ncaa-mock-bracket-020916
next four out is a pretty big accomplishment for a team as young as ours. couple the OU win with the respect of being named to the Next Four Out list and i think we have a pretty solid foundation to build on in the coming years.
Post by: catastrophe on February 09, 2016, 12:05:17 PM
Post by: pvegs on February 09, 2016, 05:23:08 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 09, 2016, 06:02:35 PM
Post by: Winters on February 09, 2016, 08:38:04 PM
Man, the internet would be too damn good.http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Lunardi!! :shakesfist:
Frank vs. ku :popcorn:
Self will look really good in the clownsuit Frank has tailored for him.
Post by: Pete on February 09, 2016, 09:10:51 PM
Being on the bubble of being on the bubble is just killing all of those oscar haters.
This is tough for me to stomach
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2016, 03:39:02 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/14750196/bilas-index-ranking-top-68-teams-land-seeing-soft-bubble
Post by: ChiComCat on February 10, 2016, 03:40:58 PM
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55. Kansas State Wildcats
The Wildcats have been close, then finally broke through and beat then-No. 1 Oklahoma in Manhattan. Kansas State had lost seven of 10 heading into the game with the top-rated Sooners, and lost four of those games by double digits. The Wildcats have been turning the ball over, ranking 10th in the Big 12 in turnover rate.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2016, 03:43:42 PM
Post by: AppleJack on February 10, 2016, 08:14:55 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 10, 2016, 08:24:59 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 10, 2016, 08:44:03 PM
Mods please lock this thread. LOL at us :lol:
This. I'm so stupid.
Post by: AppleJack on February 10, 2016, 08:54:56 PM
Post by: sys on February 10, 2016, 09:20:19 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 10, 2016, 09:27:24 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2016, 09:30:02 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 10, 2016, 09:35:02 PM
Post by: Gooch on February 15, 2016, 04:49:54 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on February 17, 2016, 07:41:15 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 17, 2016, 08:27:57 AM
Post by: KITNfury on February 17, 2016, 08:36:13 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 17, 2016, 08:47:00 AM
Post by: CHONGS on February 17, 2016, 09:41:32 AM
Feels good guys. :cool:
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 17, 2016, 09:56:08 AM
Just how good is the Big 12? Beat the worst team in the conference and you are suddenly back in the discussion of being on the periphery of the bubble.
Feels good guys. :cool:
You're the last person I thought I'd see sell this win short.
Great road win in a hostile environment.
Post by: KITNfury on February 17, 2016, 10:00:43 AM
Just how good is the Big 12? Beat the worst team in the conference and you are suddenly back in the discussion of being on the periphery of the bubble.
Feels good guys. :cool:
You're the last person I thought I'd see sell this win short.
road win in an environment.
Post by: Skipper44 on February 17, 2016, 10:16:41 AM
This is probably more appropriate for this thread: http://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/ (scroll down to the bottom)A possible Ole Miss rematch in front of thousands of screaming townies? Sounds about perfect for #bruceketball :Yuck:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 17, 2016, 10:18:16 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 17, 2016, 10:19:47 AM
I'm blocked from that link at work. Is that the bracketology for the NIT? If so, what's our seed?
Your work quit on K-State
Post by: kso_FAN on February 17, 2016, 10:22:26 AM
I'm blocked from that link at work. Is that the bracketology for the NIT? If so, what's our seed?
3 seed!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 17, 2016, 10:23:38 AM
:lol:I'm blocked from that link at work. Is that the bracketology for the NIT? If so, what's our seed?
Your work quit on K-State
:emawkid:I'm blocked from that link at work. Is that the bracketology for the NIT? If so, what's our seed?
3 seed!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 17, 2016, 10:26:01 AM
Post by: CHONGS on February 17, 2016, 11:05:07 AM
Too true, road wins are like rare gifts these days.Just how good is the Big 12? Beat the worst team in the conference and you are suddenly back in the discussion of being on the periphery of the bubble.
Feels good guys. :cool:
You're the last person I thought I'd see sell this win short.
Great road win in a hostile environment.
Post by: TownieCat on February 17, 2016, 11:12:53 AM
This is probably more appropriate for this thread: http://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/ (scroll down to the bottom)A possible Ole Miss rematch in front of thousands of screaming townies? Sounds about perfect for #bruceketball :Yuck:
I just cleared my calendar on the nights of March 15th and 16th. :bball:
Post by: kso_FAN on February 17, 2016, 11:37:33 AM
This is probably more appropriate for this thread: http://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/ (scroll down to the bottom)A possible Ole Miss rematch in front of thousands of screaming townies? Sounds about perfect for #bruceketball :Yuck:
I just cleared my calendar on the nights of March 15th and 16th. :bball:
:cheers:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 17, 2016, 11:40:20 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on February 17, 2016, 12:11:21 PM
I selfishly would love for Frank to lose a few, so we can match up with him, but I think he's solidly in.
yeah you need to get over this
Post by: Gooch on February 19, 2016, 04:21:14 PM
I'm starting to think Frank might have "checked the oil" on Mrs. Wacky or something.I selfishly would love for Frank to lose a few, so we can match up with him, but I think he's solidly in.
yeah you need to get over this
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 20, 2016, 01:12:37 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 20, 2016, 02:52:02 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 20, 2016, 02:55:16 PM
Doesn't sound like fun for kstate fansI think they're comparable teams. I think it would be a good game. We blasted Mizzou, they lost to them. They beat A&M on the road, we lost. :frown:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 07, 2016, 04:43:27 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology?ex_cid=espnfb
Post by: 'taterblast on April 07, 2016, 05:47:17 PM
Post by: Trim on April 07, 2016, 07:01:09 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 07, 2016, 07:08:35 PM
Post by: fun muffin on April 07, 2016, 07:13:46 PM
In: Jevon Thomas
Where did he transfer to?
Post by: wetwillie on April 07, 2016, 07:16:16 PM
In: Jevon Thomas
Where did he transfer to?
Seton Hall
Post by: bones129 on April 08, 2016, 12:18:37 AM
Post by: ksu101 on April 08, 2016, 01:40:31 AM
Post by: SdK on January 16, 2017, 05:31:40 PM
First four out!
Post by: SdK on January 16, 2017, 05:49:16 PM
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Bracketology: Six teams voters love that have weak NCAA Tournament resumes
A look at teams in or just out of the rankings who may have work to do to make it to March Madness
Kansas State
I have to admit that when I looked at the AP Top 25, which I rarely do since they don't have a bearing on the selection process, I was stunned to find Kansas State in there. When I put together the bracket this morning, the Wildcats were not on the list of teams under consideration. Kansas State has beaten absolutely nobody of note. The Wildcats are 0-4 against the top 100 teams in the RPI. They are close losses, but still losses. Their best win is Nebraska-Omaha. They also beat current Horizon League leader Wisconsin-Green Bay. When your best wins are against teams with dashes in their names at this point of the season, you probably shouldn't be ranked. Poll voters don't put much thought into voting sometimes. They see a power conference team with a gaudy record and rank them. It is pretty obvious that Kansas State benefitted from that. I suspect that when the rankings are released this week, the Wildcats won't be there.
Posted 6 hours ago by our buddy, JP.
Post by: Canary on January 16, 2017, 06:22:36 PM
Post by: SdK on January 16, 2017, 06:27:04 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 16, 2017, 06:28:08 PM
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When your best wins are against teams with dashes in their names at this point of the season, you probably shouldn't be ranked.
Post by: Canary on January 16, 2017, 06:30:46 PM
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Post by: SdK on January 19, 2017, 01:56:04 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 19, 2017, 02:10:31 PM
http://www.shupirates.com/documents/2016/11/11/1617Combined.pdf
Post by: SdK on January 19, 2017, 02:11:35 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 19, 2017, 03:25:42 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 19, 2017, 03:35:03 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 19, 2017, 10:41:05 PM
I've watched a few games, also he just became eligible for the spring semester
I don't recall him being an in season transfer.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 19, 2017, 10:44:02 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 20, 2017, 12:25:15 AM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 23, 2017, 09:25:55 AM
#10 seed now
Post by: pvegs on January 23, 2017, 02:43:10 PM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
#10 seed now
same on cbs. against frank no less.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Post by: renocat on January 24, 2017, 12:39:03 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2017, 06:57:47 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 24, 2017, 08:26:28 AM
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/I love this site.
Post by: catastrophe on January 24, 2017, 09:16:09 AM
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Is this aggregate data any more accurate than, say, Lunardi's?
Also, I'm surprised at how many people are still leaving off KSU entirely, given the current Big 12 standings.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2017, 09:29:05 AM
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Is this aggregate data any more accurate than, say, Lunardi's?
Also, I'm surprised at how many people are still leaving off KSU entirely, given the current Big 12 standings.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/rankings.html
Post by: catastrophe on January 24, 2017, 10:02:55 AM
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Is this aggregate data any more accurate than, say, Lunardi's?
Also, I'm surprised at how many people are still leaving off KSU entirely, given the current Big 12 standings.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/rankings.html
Thanks. Did not realize Assembly Call was that legit. He has the Cats at 11 right now.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 24, 2017, 04:50:51 PM
10 seed
Post by: kso_FAN on January 30, 2017, 11:35:15 AM
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Post by: scottwildcat on January 30, 2017, 12:51:51 PM
Post by: catastrophe on January 30, 2017, 01:36:55 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 30, 2017, 01:53:05 PM
Even if the games don't mean a ton on a Tournament resume, the last couple performances don't look like a Tournament team. We are trending in the wrong direction. Bigly.
This is exactly what bubble teams look like.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 30, 2017, 01:56:25 PM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Post by: kso_FAN on January 30, 2017, 03:35:11 PM
Post by: Canary on January 30, 2017, 03:40:23 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 30, 2017, 03:42:47 PM
I would take a 9 seed, but would prefer 10 if we are in that range. I would rather we were as high as 7 but we are a long ways from that right now.
Yeah, I agree. After my meltdown on Saturday, I decided to actually look at where we are at, and we're still in good shape to make it. I know oscar and all that, but I'm still going to follow K-State basketball and hope for the best.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 02, 2017, 11:10:23 AM
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Post by: kso_FAN on February 02, 2017, 11:12:38 AM
I would take a 9 seed, but would prefer 10 if we are in that range. I would rather we were as high as 7 but we are a long ways from that right now.
Yeah, I agree. After my meltdown on Saturday, I decided to actually look at where we are at, and we're still in good shape to make it. I know oscar and all that, but I'm still going to follow K-State basketball and hope for the best.
What an idiot.
Post by: catastrophe on February 02, 2017, 11:30:25 AM
Post by: Canary on February 02, 2017, 11:36:07 AM
That could be said about both of us at this time, huh? I realized last night that i have to find other things to do on Cat's game days and nights besides watching. I felt ridiculous after that game, hoping and wishing they would get it together and play decent ball. Can't do that any more. I can only do the same thing so many times before I understand that those circumstances are not going to change, so I have to do something else.I would take a 9 seed, but would prefer 10 if we are in that range. I would rather we were as high as 7 but we are a long ways from that right now.
Yeah, I agree. After my meltdown on Saturday, I decided to actually look at where we are at, and we're still in good shape to make it. I know oscar and all that, but I'm still going to follow K-State basketball and hope for the best.
What an idiot.
Post by: SdK on February 02, 2017, 12:40:24 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 02, 2017, 02:18:56 PM
I have a strong feeling this team is going to steal one of the next three-maybe even two!-and then completely collapse down the stretch.
No way they win two. This is getting to be pretty reminiscent of the last time we beat KU though
Post by: kso_FAN on February 03, 2017, 12:37:22 PM
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Post by: SdK on February 03, 2017, 01:41:53 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 06, 2017, 11:38:49 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3_8z8YUkAANo0d.png:large)
Post by: catastrophe on February 06, 2017, 12:17:11 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 06, 2017, 12:26:06 PM
That RPI jump is pretty drastic at this point in the season, no?
That's what a road win vs the #1 team in the RPI will do.
Post by: pvegs on February 06, 2017, 02:23:32 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 06, 2017, 07:09:53 PM
clemson in is a joke
You realize there isn't a single team on that graphic with more top 100 wins, right?
Post by: pvegs on February 06, 2017, 07:14:57 PM
clemson in is a joke
You realize there isn't a single team on that graphic with more top 100 wins, right?
clemson's top 100 wins are:
georgia
unc wilmington
south carolina: w/o sindarius thornwell
wake forest
nebraska
alabama
pitt
georgia tech
Post by: MakeItRain on February 06, 2017, 07:27:32 PM
Post by: pvegs on February 06, 2017, 08:35:40 PM
and :confused:
MURDERER'S rough ridin' ROW, MIR
Post by: kso_FAN on February 08, 2017, 01:13:35 PM
http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-02-08/march-madness-potential-ncaa-tournament-teams-few-are-talking?cid=ncaammsocial_tw_sf55078300
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2017, 01:17:10 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 08, 2017, 02:17:07 PM
Cows and Cats oh my!
http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-02-08/march-madness-potential-ncaa-tournament-teams-few-are-talking?cid=ncaammsocial_tw_sf55078300
Quote
oscar Weber employs a hyper-aggressive scheme that’s geared to speed up the opponent and produce easy buckets for Kansas State.No
Post by: kso_FAN on February 10, 2017, 11:54:42 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4Ui1_UVcAEnFsO.jpg:large)
Post by: SdK on February 10, 2017, 11:58:19 AM
Post by: Winters on February 10, 2017, 11:58:24 AM
How to lose all credibility in one sentence.Cows and Cats oh my!
http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-02-08/march-madness-potential-ncaa-tournament-teams-few-are-talking?cid=ncaammsocial_tw_sf55078300Quoteoscar Weber employs a hyper-aggressive scheme that’s geared to speed up the opponent and produce easy buckets for Kansas State.No
Post by: kso_FAN on February 10, 2017, 12:05:31 PM
Beat ISU and move up to that 8 line?
If we finish 9-9 in the league we will be in the discussion for a 7 IMO.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 10, 2017, 12:11:58 PM
Post by: SdK on February 10, 2017, 12:14:31 PM
Good. I realize 8/9 doesn't matter muchBeat ISU and move up to that 8 line?
If we finish 9-9 in the league we will be in the discussion for a 7 IMO.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 10, 2017, 12:15:37 PM
where will 9-9 or 8-10 likely land us in the standings for the big 12?
9-9 may get up to 4th, 8-10 may fall to 7th, most likely 5th or 6th though.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 10, 2017, 01:44:11 PM
Unless something crazy happens, I won't be surprised to see 8-10 get us in.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4Ui1_UVcAEnFsO.jpg:large)
I'm going to refrain from pointing out that I said this was a possibility in December and I got clowned. Not gonna pat myself on the back at all.
Post by: SdK on February 10, 2017, 02:07:23 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 10, 2017, 03:25:56 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 10, 2017, 03:48:37 PM
9 Miami 76
Post by: 'taterblast on February 10, 2017, 03:50:34 PM
10 Kansas State - 69
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2017, 03:52:13 PM
8 K-State 82Followed by:
9 Miami 76
1 Villanova 76
2 K-state 80
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 10, 2017, 04:42:53 PM
No Wednesday game for the cats :love:where will 9-9 or 8-10 likely land us in the standings for the big 12?
9-9 may get up to 4th, 8-10 may fall to 7th, most likely 5th or 6th though.
Post by: EMAWforever on February 10, 2017, 04:44:11 PM
You sure are Wacky! No way we win a close game with a good opponent8 K-State 82Followed by:
9 Miami 76
1 Villanova 76
2 K-state 80
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 10, 2017, 05:28:52 PM
oscar will come in flipping the crowd off and will win the final four to take us to the nattyYou sure are Wacky! No way we win a close game with a good opponent8 K-State 82Followed by:
9 Miami 76
1 Villanova 76
2 K-state 80
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 11, 2017, 11:38:30 PM
TCU Cal Cuse Marquette SHall Tennessee all lost. Sparty Ark won. VTech plays Virg 2morrow.
Lunardi had us a 9. I'd say we were 9/10 seed coming into this weekend.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 13, 2017, 10:03:22 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4jpKAYUoAIostI.png:large)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 13, 2017, 10:06:09 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 13, 2017, 10:16:10 AM
Cats vs cats!Maybe Huggins v Frank as well
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
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Post by: pissclams on February 13, 2017, 10:38:10 AM
Cats vs cats!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
we would destroy NW and oregon
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 13, 2017, 11:37:38 AM
Sweet 16 here we comeCats vs cats!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
we would destroy NW and oregon
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Post by: cfbandyman on February 13, 2017, 11:48:52 AM
Cats vs cats!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Would be such a rude awaking for their first trip ever to the tourny.
Post by: kim carnes on February 13, 2017, 11:54:40 AM
Cats vs cats!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
we would destroy NW and oregon
We would lose handily to both
Post by: BostonPancake on February 13, 2017, 11:56:27 AM
Cats vs cats!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Lots of potential story lines out of that bracket. Possible games against Altman, Frank, Huggins. Then if Purdue made it far we could have a Gene Keady segment during pregame on how he helped land oscar at KSU.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 13, 2017, 12:03:05 PM
According to nearly every projection, K-State is still safely in the tournament. With the schedule left and the current bubble status, it should absolutely be a fire-able offense to not make it with this team.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4jpKAYUoAIostI.png:large)
WSU is such a thorn. We most likely be favored in our first NCAA game.
Post by: Kat Kid on February 13, 2017, 12:03:27 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 13, 2017, 12:07:51 PM
guys. well, here is the thing. that bracket? that bracket isn't real
Yeah, bracketology match up discussions are entertaining to some I suppose.
I stick to the nitty gritty charts myself. I just want to see how we compare and if we are likely to get in the thing.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 14, 2017, 09:03:59 AM
They have us as a play in...
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Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 14, 2017, 09:06:58 AM
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Post by: felix rex on February 15, 2017, 02:09:17 AM
According to nearly every projection, K-State is still safely in the tournament. With the schedule left and the current bubble status, it should absolutely be a fire-able offense to not make it with this team.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4jpKAYUoAIostI.png:large)
It seems most likely we finish 3-3. Barring a tourney run, does that get us in? Worst case scenario is the perception that we were unjustly snubbed, thus preventing oscar being fired.
Post by: IPA4Me on February 15, 2017, 05:24:54 AM
Post by: pissclams on February 15, 2017, 07:32:48 AM
BestWorstcase scenario is the perception that we were unjustly snubbed, thus preventing oscar being fired.
i fyp'd your post imo :love:
Post by: scottwildcat on February 15, 2017, 08:53:01 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 15, 2017, 09:01:48 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 15, 2017, 09:23:27 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 15, 2017, 09:27:15 PM
We're still in
We'd have to probably lose to OU, Texas, TCU, OSU and Tech to miss the tourney.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 15, 2017, 09:32:07 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 15, 2017, 09:37:54 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 15, 2017, 09:40:46 PM
We're still in
Yep and we have a minimum of two very winnable top 50 games left on the schedule before the tournament. I do think we are headed to oscar not being absolutely safe with a first round loss territory.
Post by: Skipper44 on February 15, 2017, 09:45:55 PM
Post by: ednksu on February 15, 2017, 10:10:29 PM
Post by: catastrophe on February 15, 2017, 10:15:20 PM
I have a strong feeling this team is going to steal one of the next three-maybe even two!-and then completely collapse down the stretch.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 15, 2017, 10:25:10 PM
What games do people honestly see on the schedule that we take? Doesn't the evidence point to us in a serious nose dive that isn't going to get better? I'm thinking of looking at how bad our defense is and our scoring. It's not like we've lost close nail biters or something where just a few defensive lapses down the stretch cost us.
Look at our record, now look at the records of our opponents, it's pretty obvious we're going to win a couple of these games. Going 2-3 to finish the season is pretty shitty, no need for the melodrama of pretending like any of these teams are good enough to mark anyone down for a sure win.
Post by: ednksu on February 15, 2017, 10:36:18 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2017, 10:43:58 PM
He'll probably get one more win, but this thing looks like its falling apart if the first 10 minutes is any indication. I have no idea when/if/what causes these guys to play hard anymore.
Post by: pissclams on February 15, 2017, 10:44:35 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 15, 2017, 10:44:47 PM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on February 15, 2017, 10:47:38 PM
I don't think anyone sees sure wins left, maybe a week ago but not anymore. It's just that it would take an all time pants shitting for any of these teams to go 0-5 against any of the other five. Kenpom has us going 4-1.
eff it.....I vote for a pants shitting.
Post by: ednksu on February 15, 2017, 10:48:59 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2017, 10:53:47 PM
This is just unbelievably bad.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4wa6OqVYAIJ_U-.png:large)
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2017, 11:02:35 PM
Post by: Tobias on February 16, 2017, 12:07:26 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 16, 2017, 12:15:56 AM
It stinks we have had both big guys go through some injuries and be ineffective in games. However there isn't any excuse for the effort and energy tonight and the Tcu game.
We are 1-4 vs the mid tier or bubble teams in the B12. That is also not acceptable. Especially when we did enough going 2-4 vs the Top 5 and top 15 teams are n this league
Post by: MakeItRain on February 16, 2017, 12:17:40 AM
Most people on board with 2 or 3 wins right now (base on stats and schedules)? Okay, thanks for setting me straight on what people are thinking.
Who is this directed at?
Post by: ednksu on February 16, 2017, 12:32:05 AM
Most as in most of the people participating in this thread. Not necessarily you, but I'd welcome your projections. I haven't checked the other thread(s) by poster that were more projections based to be honest.Most people on board with 2 or 3 wins right now (base on stats and schedules)? Okay, thanks for setting me straight on what people are thinking.
Who is this directed at?
Post by: Trim on February 16, 2017, 12:33:34 AM
Obviously easier said than done, but our team needs to approach this 1 game at a time and make sure that we are focused and ready for each game.
Post by: Tobias on February 16, 2017, 12:37:20 AM
Post by: TownieCat on February 16, 2017, 10:34:14 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 16, 2017, 10:44:14 AM
Lunardi still has us in Last 4 Byes this morning. When considering the other teams competing for those last few at large spots it's hard to imagine 19 wins not being enough to get in this year.
There will be a couple of schools that make a run in their conference tournaments to get in.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 16, 2017, 10:47:54 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 16, 2017, 10:50:21 AM
Post by: TownieCat on February 16, 2017, 11:23:40 AM
Lunardi still has us in Last 4 Byes this morning. When considering the other teams competing for those last few at large spots it's hard to imagine 19 wins not being enough to get in this year.
There will be a couple of schools that make a run in their conference tournaments to get in.
Sure. Probably applies in the Valley, WCC, A10, and AAC. All four have two teams clearly above the rest. No other league will have multiple bids.
Post by: PIPE on February 16, 2017, 01:32:38 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 16, 2017, 03:01:17 PM
I too second thisI don't think anyone sees sure wins left, maybe a week ago but not anymore. It's just that it would take an all time pants shitting for any of these teams to go 0-5 against any of the other five. Kenpom has us going 4-1.
eff it.....I vote for a pants shitting.
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Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2017, 02:01:17 PM
(https://scontent.fmci1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/16903306_10154974414135350_9215669863243467317_o.jpg?oh=c1c9e64136f7abe6a5a8902ef326a3c3&oe=593D4D27)
Post by: sys on February 20, 2017, 02:07:39 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2017, 02:09:48 PM
one of baylor or wvu isn't a top 25?
WVU is 28 in the RPI and 3 in kenpom. Big differential, but their OOC schedule was almost as bad as ours.
Post by: sys on February 20, 2017, 02:21:01 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 20, 2017, 02:43:18 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2017, 02:57:37 PM
I hope we get rough ridin' hammered for our weak non-con. That kind of bullshit should not be rewarded. It doesn't help the kids, fans, or the game of college basketball. It's a chicken crap move by coaches who want to save their own necks.
I can see that, but of the teams around us, only 4 or 5 have a better SOS. I agree we should play better teams in the OOC, but that really isn't hurting us this year because the league is so good.
We should justifiably be hammered for the lack of quality wins, especially the home losses to teams like TCU and ISU. Surprisingly our road and neutral records aren't a bad thing for us right now compared to the bubble around us.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 20, 2017, 02:58:24 PM
Post by: sys on February 20, 2017, 03:17:05 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2017, 03:20:35 PM
A couple decent wins with no really bad losses. Of course, we can still get a bad loss at OU or home vs Tech. Tech could still end up as a >100 RPI team.
Post by: sys on February 20, 2017, 03:27:16 PM
Our losses are to a 1 seed (twice), a 2, a 4, a 6, an 8 (twice), an 11, a first four out, and next four out team. Wins over a 2, a 4, and an 8.
i just wish we hadn't beaten baylor. that's the one that really throws a wrench in the narrative.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 20, 2017, 04:36:51 PM
If you look at Lunardi 8 teams he lists as First 4 out and Next 4 out....They all are weak.
1) Tennessee 14-12/ 7-7 SEC. UK and Ksu only good wins
2)Wake Forest 15-12/ 6-9 ACC. Only 1 top 50 win
3) Clemson 14-12/ 4-10 ACC. 4 top 50 wins
4) ILL St 22-5, 2 top 100 wins & 2 losses 100+ RPI teams
5) T Tech 5-9 B12 and RPI 88
6 Indiana 5-9 B10 and RPI 90
7) Providence 6-8 BEast and RPI 67
8) Pitt 4-10 ACC and RPI 57
Even some of the last teams in --
1) Cuse has 83 RPI 2)S Hall 6-8 in BEast 3) Cal is 9-5 in P12 but only 1 significant win over USC 4) TCU is 6-8 and best win is Iowa St
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 20, 2017, 09:13:42 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on February 20, 2017, 09:15:03 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2017, 09:26:00 PM
i'm baffled that we are still considered in. 6-8 in confy? with our non-con? sheesh.
it's a conspiracy against the future of k-state basketball
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 20, 2017, 09:33:24 PM
i'm baffled that we are still considered in. 6-8 in confy? with our non-con? sheesh.
Remember when they needed to expand the field bc so many good teams were getting left out?
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 20, 2017, 11:20:51 PM
i'm baffled that we are still considered in. 6-8 in confy? with our non-con? sheesh.
Well, we are probably just barely in right now.
But like I said in earlier post...
Tcu is 6-8. They have only 1 decent win. We have 3. Our RPIs are basically the same
Cuse has RPI of 83. They are 2-9 away from the Carrier Dome. 16-12 overall. 3 bad losses
Seton Hall is 6-8 in Big East.
Those 3 are also considered in right now. It's a weak bubble
Post by: kso_FAN on February 21, 2017, 06:49:30 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 21, 2017, 10:19:51 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/02/21/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-college-basketball-march-madness-virginia/98188680/
Post by: PowercatPat on February 21, 2017, 03:57:10 PM
USA today has us the first one out. #BubbleLife
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/02/21/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-college-basketball-march-madness-virginia/98188680/
They have Clemson in with a 14-12 record and 4-10 conference record.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 22, 2017, 12:17:46 AM
I hope we get rough ridin' hammered for our weak non-con. That kind of bullshit should not be rewarded. It doesn't help the kids, fans, or the game of college basketball. It's a chicken crap move by coaches who want to save their own necks.
My goodness, so dramatic.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 22, 2017, 12:20:28 AM
USA today has us the first one out. #BubbleLife
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/02/21/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-college-basketball-march-madness-virginia/98188680/
They have Clemson in with a 14-12 record and 4-10 conference record.
They lost again tonight
Post by: dmartin on February 22, 2017, 11:22:36 AM
USA today has us the first one out. #BubbleLife
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/02/21/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-college-basketball-march-madness-virginia/98188680/
They have Clemson in with a 14-12 record and 4-10 conference record.
Looks like they switched us in and Clemson out today.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2017, 08:51:49 AM
Post by: ksu101 on March 02, 2017, 09:21:03 AM
Post by: catastrophe on March 02, 2017, 09:23:15 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2017, 09:24:33 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2017, 09:36:40 AM
All bracketology's i'm seeing today have us as the first 4 out. Everyone brath easy. Weirdest one I saw was espn having Wichita State a 7 seed and CBS having them out of the tournament. :lol:
If it's Jerry Palm, he's normally way off on a few things every year.
I think most people would agree with that. And I think the odds of it happening are about 50/50.
I'd say the odds of beating Tech & Baylor are definitely less than 50/50. More like 80/20 it doesn't happen.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2017, 09:39:07 AM
I'd say the odds of beating Tech & Baylor are definitely less than 50/50. More like 80/20 it doesn't happen.
It might depend on how healthy Lecomte is next week.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 02, 2017, 09:42:19 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2017, 09:45:08 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170302/afdd16c5c27606ee9980b1bc2fba24d2.jpg)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2017, 09:52:29 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2017, 09:52:55 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2017, 09:53:29 AM
http://bracketmatrix.com/
Still from yesterday.
Lundardi's from this morning has us as "First Four Out".
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2017, 09:53:58 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 02, 2017, 10:03:46 AM
I'd say more like 60-65% vs Tech and 40-45% vs Baylor.
That is still only 25% we win both.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2017, 10:13:04 AM
Our biggest asset is we have wins away from home vs Baylor, OK St, Colo St and TCU....And have played well away from home almost every time out. The 2 good wins vs potential 2&4 seeds BU/WV are also good. Beating a 6-8 seeded Isu or OSU team at home would have been really big. 9-9 in committee eyes looks so much better than 8-10. 9-9 would have meant 4-6 record vs 3'teams (1-4 seed) and 2 teams (6-8 seed)
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2017, 11:05:19 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2017, 03:45:57 PM
Then he has Wake making it. If they lose at VTech, Wake would be 8-10 in ACC. They would be 2-8 vs the best 9 teams from ACC and 4-0 vs 2 worst teams, NCSt/BC who are 6-29 in ACC. Only have 2 Top 50 wins, both at home
Then he has Cal in. If Cal goes 1-1 on road this week (at 81 Utah 111 Colorado), they would be 11-7 in P12. But only top 50 win is Usc, who is a bubble team. Right now Cal only has 4 of their 19 wins vs Top 100. Harvard is their only NonCon Top100 win
Once again, it's crazy how weak the bubble is. Vandy, his first team out is a FLA loss away from 16-15,9-9 Record in SEC. However, our resume without 2 more wins is also very weak.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 02, 2017, 04:33:42 PM
As a P5 that has the $ to control your noncon if you go soft like we did you better have good wins in the conference and wins on the road. oscar has somehow coached them up to do both but beating Tech Saturday and losing to Baylor on Thursday smells like a NIT home game to me.
I just hope we have a live feed of oscar on Selection Sunday!
Post by: #LIFE on March 02, 2017, 04:38:05 PM
I just hope we have a live feed of oscar on Selection Sunday!
This is best case scenario for me provided we get a non-invite. Can you imagine the #exbruce gems that would be flowing out of his mouth :love:
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 02, 2017, 04:54:25 PM
Post by: Joker on March 02, 2017, 05:16:51 PM
I just hope we have a live feed of oscar on Selection Sunday!
This is best case scenario for me provided we get a non-invite. Can you imagine the #exbruce gems that would be flowing out of his mouth :love:
Live feed preview:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F02%2Fbruce_eff_me.gif&hash=2594cbb6f49b4cbd190716a22904d44e49666330)
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2017, 05:20:06 PM
My gut says we have to make it to Friday in KC to make it safely.Just look at the eff me gif when we don't get in.
As a P5 that has the $ to control your noncon if you go soft like we did you better have good wins in the conference and wins on the road. oscar has somehow coached them up to do both but beating Tech Saturday and losing to Baylor on Thursday smells like a NIT home game to me.
I just hope we have a live feed of oscar on Selection Sunday!
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2017, 05:20:58 PM
:cheers: Joker
Post by: Woogy on March 02, 2017, 05:51:13 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2017, 08:15:15 PM
Weirdest one I saw was espn having Wichita State a 7 seed and CBS having them out of the tournament. :lol:
Lunardi has Shockers as a 7 and ILL St as a 12. Not understanding this. Both teams went 17-1 and split the heads up matchups. Both had 1 other top 100 win. SOS are 200 for Wsu and 162 for Isu. The main difference is Wichita St 4 losses are to 4 teams that will make the Tourney. ISU has 5 losses and only 1 will make it.
I would probably say the 2 teams are a 9 seed & 11 seed.
Post by: Joker on March 03, 2017, 08:43:02 AM
Gosh darn it. What I get for not reading all the posts.
:cheers: Joker
Sometimes you just gotta roll the dice.
Post by: SEK_EMAW on March 03, 2017, 09:55:13 AM
I just hope we have a live feed of oscar on Selection Sunday!
This is best case scenario for me provided we get a non-invite. Can you imagine the #exbruce gems that would be flowing out of his mouth :love:
Live feed preview:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F02%2Fbruce_eff_me.gif&hash=2594cbb6f49b4cbd190716a22904d44e49666330)
Throw in a couple of these too.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn3.sbnation.com%2Fimported_assets%2F1544665%2Fkuloses.gif&hash=6247837ab25f16f7236c75307978d2ef29391ba2)
Post by: KanSt43 on March 03, 2017, 10:31:19 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 03, 2017, 10:41:26 AM
I still think we're in (play in game) if we win tomorrow. Win one in KC and we'll get Creighton in "first" round.
I think that's probably right.
oscar getting his first NCAA tournament "win" since 2011 in a first four game would be such a oscar thing to do.
Post by: PIPE on March 03, 2017, 10:46:36 AM
I still think we're in (play in game) if we win tomorrow. Win one in KC and we'll get Creighton in "first" round.
I think that's probably right.
oscar getting his first NCAA tournament "win" since 2011 in a first four game would be such a oscar thing to do.
If this happens.................... :goodbyecruelworld:
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2017, 11:01:13 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on March 03, 2017, 11:02:19 AM
If we could somehow get an 8/9 matchup with frank I'd be so happy.
Frank will eat our team alive, so great.
Post by: dmartin on March 03, 2017, 11:24:07 AM
If we could somehow get an 8/9 matchup with frank I'd be so happy.
Frank will eat our team alive, so great.
Leading by 5 at the half, Frank would walk over to the KSU bench, grab a folding chair and lay out Weber. Frank would then proceed to coach the cats to a come from behind victory.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 03, 2017, 11:25:08 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 03, 2017, 12:16:00 PM
Have you guys seen Frank's team play this year? I don't think they're that great, but whatever.
Oklahoma beat us by 30 less than a week ago.
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2017, 12:21:19 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 03, 2017, 12:32:08 PM
I still think we're in (play in game) if we win tomorrow. Win one in KC and we'll get Creighton in "first" round.
I think that's probably right.
oscar getting his first NCAA tournament "win" since 2011 in a first four game would be such a oscar thing to do.
I'm just not seeing this. I really believe we need a win over Baylor in KC.
Have you guys seen Frank's team play this year? I don't think they're that great, but whatever.
Oklahoma beat us by 30 less than a week ago.
Is SC better than us? Yes.
The blowout to Ou is 1 game. That hasn't been the norm. We've competed pretty well away from home all year. If DJamer isn't out, we may have 4 wins and 4 close losses in the other 8 B12 games
Post by: SdK on March 03, 2017, 06:33:06 PM
Post by: SdK on March 03, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
Post by: schreds21 on March 03, 2017, 07:32:10 PM
I very rarely literally LOL at things I read but this literally made me LOL. Thanks d!
Leading by 5 at the half, Frank would walk over to the KSU bench, grab a folding chair and lay out Weber. Frank would then proceed to coach the cats to a come from behind victory.
Post by: Canary on March 03, 2017, 07:34:41 PM
Just said at half time that KSU, TTU, and TCU are all out and doesn't see it changing.I would guess it would take a win tomorrow and then on Thursday to get us in.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 03, 2017, 07:43:13 PM
Just said at half time that KSU, TTU, and TCU are all out and doesn't see it changing.I would guess it would take a win tomorrow and then on Thursday to get us in.
Tcu and Tech must win B12 tourney. No breaking news there, Mr Lunardi.
And Yes, I'd be shocked if we got invite with 19 wins. Need that 20th over top 10 team to sneak us in
Post by: SdK on March 03, 2017, 08:05:07 PM
Post by: SdK on March 03, 2017, 08:05:52 PM
Post by: Canary on March 03, 2017, 08:06:31 PM
We find out tomorrow if it's Baylor or ISU? I'm too lazy to look it upI think I would have preferred playing WVU, but now not sure who would be our best match up.
Post by: SdK on March 03, 2017, 08:08:52 PM
Post by: Tobias on March 03, 2017, 08:10:08 PM
Post by: Canary on March 03, 2017, 08:11:01 PM
Post by: Canary on March 03, 2017, 08:11:55 PM
two way tie goes to wvu (2-0), three way tie also goes to wvu (3-1) over baylor (2-2) and then isu (1-3)SO we would face Baylor with us both winning tomorrow, I think.
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Post by: renocat on March 03, 2017, 11:08:02 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2017, 08:09:41 AM
We find out tomorrow if it's Baylor or ISU? I'm too lazy to look it up
If we win and Baylor wins, we play Baylor. Doesn't matter what anyone else does.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 04, 2017, 03:54:26 PM
S Hall won at Butler.
2 teams that probably are IN now and off the bubble.
Xavier, Usc, Wake, Iowa, Illinois, GA Tech,
I think there is 3 spots open. These 6 and us are top candidates.
Post by: Ptolemy on March 04, 2017, 04:13:36 PM
a. Results from the collective head-to-head competition during the regular season among the tied teams in a mini round-robin format, ranking the tied teams by winning percentage from highest to lowest will be used to determine the seeds.
If during this process two teams remain tied with the same winning percentage, the two-team tiebreaking system is used, starting with head-to-head results.
WV 3-1
Baylor 2-2
ISU 1-3
We play Baylor.
Post by: pvegs on March 05, 2017, 11:18:42 AM
Vandy won vs Fla
S Hall won at Butler.
2 teams that probably are IN now and off the bubble.
Xavier, Usc, Wake, Iowa, Illinois, GA Tech,
I think there is 3 spots open. These 6 and us are top candidates.
espn seems to think vandy is comfortably in. with a loss in the sec tourney wouldn't they be the first 15 loss at large team ever?
Post by: PowercatPat on March 05, 2017, 11:54:50 AM
Vandy won vs Fla
S Hall won at Butler.
2 teams that probably are IN now and off the bubble.
Xavier, Usc, Wake, Iowa, Illinois, GA Tech,
I think there is 3 spots open. These 6 and us are top candidates.
espn seems to think vandy is comfortably in. with a loss in the sec tourney wouldn't they be the first 15 loss at large team ever?
Yes, and they lost by 20 points to Mizzou. That loss alone should automatically disqualify them.
Post by: dean_ksu on March 05, 2017, 03:12:06 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 05, 2017, 06:58:44 PM
last 4 out as of today
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 05, 2017, 07:14:06 PM
Illinois St --25-6 record. Only 2 top 100 wins (Wich St, New Mexico) Both at home. SOS is 171. 3 of their losses are Wsu and Tcu. Other 3 losses are teams 97, 112, 232 RPI.
Xavier - Their starting PG got injured and is done. He was ave 15.0 Pts. They are 4-6 since his injury. 2 of the wins are DePaul (RPI 227). They finished 7th and 9-9 in Big East. They only went 3-9 vs the Top 6 in the conference. 19-12 overall. 3-8 vs Top 50. 8 top 100 wins. RPI is 33.
USC -- They went 13-0 in Non Con. Beat SMU. They went 10-8 in P12. 6 of their wins are vs 3 bottom P12 teams (RPI 172 or higher). Went 1-5 vs Oregon/AZ/Ucla. Lost only matchups with 4th place Utah and 6th place Cal. They only have 5 Top 100 (2 are top 50) wins.
Cuse -- 18-13 record. 16 of those wins are in Carrier Dome. Do have 6 Top 50 wins. RPI is 76. 10-8 ACC record. Bad losses to 3 teams (120, 130, 210 RPI.) Be interesting how committee views them with only 2-10 record on road/neutral. They play Miami in the 8vs9 Acc matchup
Vandy - 17-14 record. They have #3 SOS and Swept FLA. Those 2 things may help get them in despite record. Have 3 other top 50 wins ( Iowa St, Arkansas, S.Carolina). A loss to aTm in SEC would meen 17-15 record.
Illinois-- 17-13 and 8-10 in B10. VCU and Byu only top 100 non con wins (#23,#64). Went 4-6 vs Top 50 conference teams. Went 4-3 vs 51-100 conference teams. Lost 2x to Penn St(14-16 record), 1x to Rutgers (13-17). Very good #19 SOS.
Iowa -- 18-13, 10-8 and 71 RPI. Only top 100 non con win was Iowa St. Went 4-5 vs Top 50 Conference teams including winning at Wisc, at Maryland and beating league champ Purdue. Went 4-3 vs 51-100 conf teams. 2 losses to 108,145 teams
Wake Forest -- 17-12, 9-9 ACC. RPI 28 and SOS 12. Just 3-9 vs Top 50. All 3 were in conference, Lville Miami and at VT. Don't have bad loss.
Rhode Island-- 21-9, 13-5 in Atlantic 10. RPI 41 and SOS 55. 2 top 50 wins( Cincy VCU). 5 top 100 wins. Losses to 125, 211 teams.
Post by: CHONGS on March 05, 2017, 07:30:52 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 05, 2017, 07:36:25 PM
Post by: WildcatPower on March 05, 2017, 07:55:57 PM
Post by: Pete on March 06, 2017, 03:37:03 PM
Vandy should be out too. Any team that loses to Missouri, should be an automatic disqualified.
It's not like they lost to the last place team by 30.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 06, 2017, 03:41:48 PM
FYP :gocho:Vandy should be out too. Any team that loses to Missouri, should be an automatic disqualified.
It's not like they lost to thelast9th place team by 30.
Post by: Bookcat on March 06, 2017, 07:27:12 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2017, 03:04:51 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 07, 2017, 03:44:50 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2017, 03:48:17 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2017, 03:55:08 PM
Wake Forest up 12 with under 4 to play. :Yuck:
you just knew danny manning would do everything he could to screw us
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2017, 03:57:06 PM
Post by: #LIFE on March 07, 2017, 03:57:26 PM
Wake Forest up 12 with under 4 to play. :Yuck:
:Woot:
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 07, 2017, 04:44:34 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2017, 04:46:47 PM
This is confusing because some of us are cheering for bubble teams to get in ahead of us. So did a bubble team do good for themselves or no?They didn't blow themselves up yet, but they haven't helped themselves out yet either. They did what they needed to do for the time being. Beating the shittiest team in the ACC.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 08, 2017, 01:17:36 PM
1) Syracuse lost to Mia. They are now 2-11 on road/nuetral with an RPI of 75. Their 6 Top 50 wins likely won't be good enough.
2) Wake won a game they couldn't afford to lose last night. So they now stand at 19-12 with 10 ACC wins. RPI and SOS in top 35. Only 3 top 50 wins but no bad L's. They look pretty decent to be in.
That would mean ACC gets 9, not 10 which some thought. FYI, GA Tech who was just outside those 10 teams I talked about.... They are officially done now after a loss in the 11 vs 14 game last night
So, could be 5 spots left and 8 teams now competing for them.
Post by: BostonPancake on March 08, 2017, 01:30:01 PM
:ksu:
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 08, 2017, 01:55:35 PM
1) Vandy got in with 13 losses, RPI 60, only 2 Top 50 wins
2) Michigan got in with a 4-12 record vs Top 100(17-0 vs 101+) and RPI of 58
3) Tulsa had 11 losses (12-6 in AAC, the SMU/Cincy league) RPI/SOS was 61/62
For comparison... last year St Mary's did not get in.
** 16' St Mary's -- 26-5, RPI 40 SOS 163. 6 top 100 wins, 2 top 50. Went 2-1 vs 11 seed Gonzaga.
** 17' ILL St -- 26-6, RPI 36 SOS 157. 2 top 100 wins, 1 top 50. Won 19 of 21 MVC games, but only 1 win vs top 150 non con team.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 08, 2017, 02:09:36 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 08, 2017, 05:29:06 PM
1) Illinois St- mentioned their lack of good wins, SOS
2) USC - If they lost to UCLA in the qtrs, they would be 1-8 vs the 3 stud teams plus 4&5 seeded Utah/Cal. 9 of their 11 wins in P12 would be to teams "not in the top 100". And their 10th win would be over Stanford who will have an RPI in the 90s. Their top 100 non con wins -- beat tourney bound SMU, non tourney bound Texas A&M, Omaha. Could end with 24-9 record and not too many impressive wins
3) Xavier- If they lose to Butler in Qtrs, they will be 2-7 last 9 games. 2 wins vs RPI 228 DePaul and 0-7 vs the 1 thru 6 seeds in Big East. They lost their 2nd leading scorer for the year 10 games ago and have struggled. They would finish 10-10 vs B.E. teams, 3-10 vs top 6 seeds.
4) Illinois - a loss to Michigan and they would be 8-11 just like Us. And have 14 L's
* Their good/decent wins- Mich, Sparty, NWestern twice, Iowa twice, Vcu & BYU on nuetral court. We would have 3 fewer (WV, At Baylor/OSU/TCU, Colo St in Denver)
* But we have 2 wins vs top 3 in Conference, they have 0
* They would have 3 losses to 13/14 seed Penn St/Rutgers. Ou and Tech for Us
*They lost road/nuetral to 4 Top 8 seeded NCAA teams by 32,25,23,11. Our games away from home vs Top 8 seeded teams were 2,8 point wins. Losses by 19,5,2,1
Post by: BostonPancake on March 08, 2017, 08:25:22 PM
:ksu:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 08, 2017, 08:30:32 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 08, 2017, 09:12:08 PM
Good RPI, good SOS, no bad losses. 10-10 in #1 rated Conf.
However they are only 4-10 vs ACC top 100. Only 1 of those is a big time Win (Lville). 3 Top 100 wins in Non con, but none Top 50 and none of those 3 is an NCAA Tourney team.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 08, 2017, 09:57:02 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2017, 09:59:12 PM
-have the fewest road wins
-have the worst RPI
-have the worst non conference sos
Of any at large team in tournament history, they're done PP, you don't have to mention them again
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 08, 2017, 10:01:09 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 08, 2017, 10:02:27 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 09, 2017, 06:59:40 AM
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 09, 2017, 07:33:31 AM
Win today and it's a formality with the bubble around us.It's looking that way! :emawkid:
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 09, 2017, 01:43:50 PM
Wake
Iowa
Vandy
KState
Rhode Island
Xavier
USC
Illinois St :ohno:
Cuse :flush:
Illinois :flush:
Post by: CHONGS on March 09, 2017, 01:45:51 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 09, 2017, 01:50:31 PM
Cats are likely in no matter what happens tonight.
i agree w/ this
Post by: CatsNShocks on March 09, 2017, 01:52:23 PM
UPDATE. 10 teams. 6 spots. 3 in better position than the others. 2 done.
Wake
Iowa
Vandy
KState
Rhode Island
Xavier
USC
Illinois St :ohno:
Cuse :flush:
Illinois :flush:
This is the kind of succinct information I've been looking for. Thanks PP
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 09, 2017, 01:53:55 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 09, 2017, 02:02:09 PM
Cats are likely in no matter what happens tonight.
With a loss, the combination of these 3 factors isn't good.. our 8-11 record vs B12, 5 top 100 wins and RPI around 60
I think what will help us and why we could get in.. We played well in Our 6 games away from home vs Tourney teams.
Win over 2 seed Baylor and 8/9 seed OSU
Loss to 1 seed KU by 2
Losses to 6 seeds Iowa St/Maryland by 5 & 1
Loss to 4 seed WV by 19
Post by: catastrophe on March 09, 2017, 02:34:42 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 09, 2017, 02:37:51 PM
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 09, 2017, 02:39:44 PM
regardless of whether or not the committee "likes" our performances this year we will lose our first round game in embarrassing fashion but it won't be oscar weber's fault because we tried hardHot take!
Post by: Joker on March 09, 2017, 02:40:26 PM
regardless of whether or not the committee "likes" our performances this year we will lose our first round game in embarrassing fashion but it won't be oscar weber's fault because we tried hard
Hey, at least we will have made a tournament appearance (official basketball currency). Plus, another notch on the ol' tournament appearances banner!
Post by: #LIFE on March 09, 2017, 02:44:55 PM
Post by: Pete on March 09, 2017, 03:06:04 PM
Mutually exclusive.
Post by: kim carnes on March 09, 2017, 03:07:46 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 09, 2017, 03:13:47 PM
I can't believe people simultaneously wanting oscar out, and wanting us in the tournament.I think it can be done. I really can't help it. It's how I operate.
Mutually exclusive.
Post by: catastrophe on March 09, 2017, 03:19:14 PM
I can't believe people simultaneously wanting oscar out, and wanting us in the tournament.
Mutually exclusive.
I don't see any reason why a new AD has some obligation to keep a BBall coach that most people want gone. :dunno:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 09, 2017, 03:19:59 PM
regardless of whether or not the committee "likes" our performances this year we will lose our first round game in embarrassing fashion but it won't be oscar weber's fault because we tried hard
I think it is also possible that we lose in embarrassing fashion but it won't be oscar Weber's fault because the players just didn't try hard enough.
Post by: Winters on March 09, 2017, 03:35:18 PM
Post by: Tobias on March 09, 2017, 03:56:35 PM
I can't believe people simultaneously wanting oscar out, and wanting us in the tournament.
Mutually exclusive.
humans are very greedy
Post by: Trim on March 09, 2017, 04:01:07 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2017, 04:38:29 PM
I can't believe people simultaneously wanting oscar out, and wanting us in the tournament.
Mutually exclusive.
I can't believe that people still think one has anything to do with the other.
Post by: scottwildcat on March 09, 2017, 04:50:24 PM
How many times in the last 10 years has a coach been fired after making the NCAAs?I can't believe people simultaneously wanting oscar out, and wanting us in the tournament.
Mutually exclusive.
I can't believe that people still think one has anything to do with the other.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 09, 2017, 04:55:13 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2017, 04:56:33 PM
How many times in the last 10 years has a coach been fired after making the NCAAs?I can't believe people simultaneously wanting oscar out, and wanting us in the tournament.
Mutually exclusive.
I can't believe that people still think one has anything to do with the other.
No idea, it certainly isn't unprecedented. Can you tell me how many coaches that have made it to the NCAA tournament that has lost almost all of his fan support?
Post by: Pete on March 09, 2017, 05:42:48 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 09, 2017, 06:46:53 PM
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 09, 2017, 07:13:25 PM
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Post by: Tobias on March 09, 2017, 07:15:12 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 09, 2017, 07:52:06 PM
TCU is most certainly not in now
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They're in
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 09, 2017, 07:59:31 PM
NahTCU is most certainly not in now
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They're in
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Post by: Powercat Posse on March 09, 2017, 07:59:54 PM
Tcu is in now
Kimmy just doesn't understand math.
6-12 in Conference, 4 top 100 wins, 2-9 vs Top half of B12.
8-10 in Conference, 5 top 100 wins, 3-8 vs Top half if we lose 2night.
No 6-12 team has ever got an at large....EVER
TCU is most certainly not in now
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They're in
NIT. Absolutely they are in
Post by: kim carnes on March 09, 2017, 08:06:49 PM
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 09, 2017, 08:07:21 PM
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Post by: Joker on March 09, 2017, 08:12:03 PM
regardless of whether or not the committee "likes" our performances this year we will lose our first round game in embarrassing fashion but it won't be oscar weber's fault because we tried hard
Hey, at least we will have made a tournament appearance (official basketball currency). Plus, another notch on the ol' tournament appearances banner!
Forgot to add the [sarcasm] tags on that one.
Post by: BostonPancake on March 09, 2017, 08:21:58 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2017, 08:26:03 PM
Xavier just beat Butler. :frown:
:excited:
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 09, 2017, 08:28:37 PM
Iowa gets drilled. Their negatives... They have 14 losses. They are 4-10 away from home. 2 nice wins at Maryland/Wisc. But other 2 have RPI above 150. Iowa's RPI is 71 and will get worse losing to 17-14 team
Xavier :driving:
Vandy :driving:
Wake :driving:
KState
Rhode Island
USC
Iowa :ohno:
Illinois St :ohno:
Cuse :flush:
Illinois :flush:
Post by: kim carnes on March 09, 2017, 08:34:20 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 09, 2017, 08:36:02 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 09, 2017, 10:43:39 PM
Post by: pvegs on March 09, 2017, 11:12:09 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 09, 2017, 11:13:47 PM
lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
We played a joke of a non-con and went 8-10 in conference play.
Post by: pvegs on March 09, 2017, 11:20:58 PM
lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
We played a joke of a non-con and went 8-10 in conference play.
i made no comment about how deserving we are.
Post by: kim carnes on March 09, 2017, 11:41:56 PM
lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
We played a joke of a non-con and went 8-10 in conference play.
i made no comment about how deserving we are.
I mean you definitely seem confused as to why he has us as last 4 in
Post by: Trim on March 10, 2017, 12:28:58 AM
lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
We played a joke of a non-con and went 8-10 in conference play.
i made no comment about how deserving we are.
I mean you definitely seem confused as to why he has us as last 4 in
DJamer is also confused.
https://twitter.com/KWCHArielle/status/840061094655737856
Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2017, 12:39:02 AM
lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
We played a joke of a non-con and went 8-10 in conference play.
i made no comment about how deserving we are.
I mean you definitely seem confused as to why he has us as last 4 in
DJamer is also confused.
https://twitter.com/KWCHArielle/status/840061094655737856
Certainly better than Kim Anderson's "up your rough ridin' ass" in the tunnel after Mizzou's win
[youtube]https://youtu.be/kluHaGXevsg[/youtube]
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 10, 2017, 01:00:09 AM
Xavier :driving:
Vandy :driving:
Kstate :driving:
Wake :driving:
Rhode Island
USC :ohno:
Iowa :ohno:
Illinois St :ohno:
Cuse :flush:
Illinois :flush:
Middle Tennessee 26-4 RPI 38 could be in the middle group if they do not win their tourney.
Nevada 25-6 RPI 32 would be a long shot to join the middle group if they don't win their tourney
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 10, 2017, 01:12:33 AM
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Post by: That_Guy on March 10, 2017, 02:22:24 AM
https://twitter.com/KWCHArielle/status/840061094655737856
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Post by: catastrophe on March 10, 2017, 04:45:27 AM
lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
We played a joke of a non-con and went 8-10 in conference play.
i made no comment about how deserving we are.
I mean you definitely seem confused as to why he has us as last 4 in
DJamer is also confused.
https://twitter.com/KWCHArielle/status/840061094655737856
No matter how much I dislike oscar, this is a big reason why I just can't root against the Cats.
Post by: pvegs on March 10, 2017, 06:33:38 AM
lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
We played a joke of a non-con and went 8-10 in conference play.
i made no comment about how deserving we are.
I mean you definitely seem confused as to why he has us as last 4 in
learn to read kim.
Post by: kim carnes on March 10, 2017, 08:51:49 AM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 10, 2017, 10:01:05 AM
Good all A's right now test this morning at 10amhttps://twitter.com/KWCHArielle/status/840061094655737856
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Greg, how's your studying going? Are you posting this video in every topic?
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Post by: Spracne on March 10, 2017, 12:21:38 PM
:thumbs: Greg, one of the best trips of my college experience was going on the road for the tourney. You should try and do it, bud.Do you have any proof that this actually happened?
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Post by: TownieCat on March 10, 2017, 12:57:31 PM
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Dayton :flush:The Flyers, not the First Four.
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Post by: Spracne on March 10, 2017, 01:00:51 PM
Press passes? I was on TV once in Pittsburgh!Vid or it didn't happen...
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 10, 2017, 01:03:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXCzteLPZAw
Post by: TownieCat on March 10, 2017, 01:06:21 PM
Post college tho:love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXCzteLPZAw
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Post by: kso_FAN on March 10, 2017, 01:18:49 PM
Post college tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXCzteLPZAw
Awesome.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 10, 2017, 01:58:33 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on March 10, 2017, 02:06:38 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 10, 2017, 02:07:09 PM
Sounds like we need to win tonight to be a 100% lock.
bro we win tonight and its sleepycat.jpeg until the real tourney starts. no first 4 son.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 10, 2017, 02:12:19 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 10, 2017, 02:12:50 PM
Sounds like we need to win tonight to be a 100% lock.
bro we win tonight and its sleepycat.jpeg until the real tourney starts. no first 4 son.
Yep.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 10, 2017, 02:14:16 PM
Yes! We're the 67th best team in America!
:dubious:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 10, 2017, 02:15:56 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 10, 2017, 02:16:37 PM
I hope we don't have to play in one of the stupid play-in games. Those things shouldn't even exist.
Agree, but we are going to see more in the future.
Post by: catastrophe on March 10, 2017, 02:16:41 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 10, 2017, 02:17:43 PM
Hey, I'll take a play-in game, but right now I care more about getting that Big 12 trophy.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/W9WSk4tEU1aJW/giphy.gif)
Post by: That_Guy on March 10, 2017, 02:23:54 PM
If K-State plays in one of two, "play-in," games do I lose or win the bet?
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Post by: kso_FAN on March 10, 2017, 02:25:22 PM
So I made a bet with my roommate k-state wouldn't make the tourney. He wins, I buy him a pint of Jack Daniels. If I win, a pint of Sailor Jerry's.
If K-State plays in one of two, "play-in," games do I lose or win the bet?
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How many teams does the selection committee select?
Post by: Skipper44 on March 10, 2017, 04:56:09 PM
So I made a bet with my roommate k-state wouldn't make the tourney. He wins, I buy him a pint of Jack Daniels. If I win, a pint of Sailor Jerry's.try and go double or nothing on oscar winning the NCAA game
If K-State plays in one of two, "play-in," games do I lose or win the bet?
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Post by: kim carnes on March 10, 2017, 05:11:49 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 10, 2017, 06:37:34 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2017, 09:56:00 PM
I hope we don't have to play in one of the stupid play-in games. Those things shouldn't even exist.
Pretty big tell that you don't watch the first four, they are normally very good basketball games. Also what weirdo complains about more tournament basketball games? Weird.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2017, 01:29:23 AM
Houston lost
Indiana lost
Georgia lost
TCU lost
All good things.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2017, 01:39:49 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2017, 01:52:17 AM
Why do we care about Indiana, Houston, and TCU? Who's bubble were those teams on?
Tcu winning today and they are 1 game away from getting a bid. The other 2 probably needed to win their tourney, but having them out and not making finals is a good thing.
I originally posted 10 teams 6 spots. No other team has gotten hot and gotten into the Mix. Hopefully Middle Tenn will win their conference, and not become a team that could be in a play-in game
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2017, 02:35:14 AM
Why do we care about Indiana, Houston, and TCU? Who's bubble were those teams on?
Tcu winning today and they are 1 game away from getting a bid. The other 2 probably needed to win their tourney, but having them out and not making finals is a good thing.
I originally posted 10 teams 6 spots. No other team has gotten hot and gotten into the Mix. Hopefully Middle Tenn will win their conference, and not become a team that could be in a play-in game
I don't think you are correct about TCU. They were only on 1 of the 114 brackets that bracket matrix uses, and that was before they lost by 17 million tonight.
If you people want to bracket watch, look out for the Mountain West final. If Colorado State wins, that adds Nevada to the bubble. We have a better kenpom but they have a better rpi. They have no top 50 wins but they have a significantly better non con SOS. They are the exact type of team the committee has a history of favoring over a P5 school with a bunch of losses and a sub par non con.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2017, 12:09:59 PM
We're actually in more brackets today than we were yesterday.
I feel safe about watching Tuesday or Wednesday night NCAA basketball involving the Cats.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2017, 12:33:11 PM
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
We're actually in more brackets today than we were yesterday.
I feel safe about watching Tuesday or Wednesday night NCAA basketball involving the Cats.
Weren't we on 104 brackets yesterday? Either way our position hasn't changed.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2017, 12:38:34 PM
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
We're actually in more brackets today than we were yesterday.
I feel safe about watching Tuesday or Wednesday night NCAA basketball involving the Cats.
Weren't we on 104 brackets yesterday? Either way our position hasn't changed.
bracketmatrix.com bumped us back in with their latest update over Syracuse. The Cats are now in 89 of 114 brackets that they track. Rhode Island is in 53, Syracuse is in 50, and Illinois State in 38.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2017, 12:50:43 PM
I hope we don't have to play in one of the stupid play-in games. Those things shouldn't even exist.
Pretty big tell that you don't watch the first four, they are normally very good basketball games. Also what weirdo complains about more tournament basketball games? Weird.
This will be the first year I watch it.
Post by: Canary on March 11, 2017, 12:58:45 PM
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/Man, I hope you are right about us being in. My stomach is not calm thinking about it. I guess that's my body's way of telling me I still care a lot about the team and the season.
We're actually in more brackets today than we were yesterday.
I feel safe about watching Tuesday or Wednesday night NCAA basketball involving the Cats.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2017, 01:04:13 PM
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Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2017, 01:09:38 PM
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article137940228.html
Post by: #LIFE on March 11, 2017, 01:21:06 PM
Ervin's hate quote is great.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article137940228.html
Just read that. oscar's excuse making, loser attitude is now firmly ingrained in the players. It is absolutely pathetic that we have to keep going through this crap every single year. eff oscar and eff this team
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2017, 01:21:18 PM
Vandy locked up 1 of those 6 spots with their W over FLA.
I think Xavier is likely in.
I think KState and Wake are gonna be 2 of the 4 "Play-In"
The other 2 is a little uncertain. I'd probably give the edge to Rhode Island and then USC would be the very last team in
I feel our spot is pretty safe. Like 85%. I'd be surprised if we don't make it with how well we looked vs BU/WV last 2 days. 3-3 vs those 2 teams, and 2,3 pt losses to Ku. That should show Committee how well we perform against good competition
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2017, 02:55:50 PM
I hope we don't have to play in one of the stupid play-in games. Those things shouldn't even exist.
Pretty big tell that you don't watch the first four, they are normally very good basketball games. Also what weirdo complains about more tournament basketball games? Weird.
This will be the first year I watch it.
Really? That's too bad, the games really are good, the atmosphere in UD Arena is also very good. I'd like to go some day.
Post by: sys on March 11, 2017, 02:59:57 PM
Ervin's hate quote is great.
what in the world.
Post by: Trim on March 11, 2017, 03:17:29 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2017, 03:18:42 PM
Ervin's hate quote is great.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article137940228.html
If there was any doubt about how the fans feel about oscar Brett Weber basketball, that end all speculation. I feel bad that these guys have to feel the animus aimed at their coach.
Post by: kim carnes on March 11, 2017, 03:24:20 PM
I hope we don't have to play in one of the stupid play-in games. Those things shouldn't even exist.
Pretty big tell that you don't watch the first four, they are normally very good basketball games. Also what weirdo complains about more tournament basketball games? Weird.
This will be the first year I watch it.
Really? That's too bad, the games really are good, the atmosphere in UD Arena is also very good. I'd like to go some day.
Yeah they're definitely not
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2017, 03:28:48 PM
Ervin's hate quote is great.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article137940228.html
If there was any doubt about how the fans feel about oscar Brett Weber basketball, that end all speculation. I feel bad that these guys have to feel the animus aimed at their coach.
oscar should have used this sooner.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2017, 04:07:54 PM
It points to ESPN's new Strength of Record in their BPI as a good indicator, which currently has us at #37: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/sort/sorrank/page/2/dir/asc/view/overview
I think that means according to the Sabin guy who wrote the fivethrityeight piece that we are in good shape.
Post by: Joker on March 11, 2017, 05:06:03 PM
Quote
“I know close doesn’t count, but we played Kansas, who people had No. 1 or No. 2, and we had a shot to beat them at their place. It was a tie score with a minute left at our place. We had some other close games.”
:facepalm:
What did we do to deserve this?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2017, 05:06:33 PM
This is a few days old, but interesting take from the fivethirtyeight people: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/on-the-ncaa-bubble-heres-the-number-to-watch/
It points to ESPN's new Strength of Record in their BPI as a good indicator, which currently has us at #37: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/sort/sorrank/page/2/dir/asc/view/overview
I think that means according to the Sabin guy who wrote the fivethrityeight piece that we are in good shape.
I really hope that the committee doesn't use the BPI as a source of decision making. They intentionally conceal parts of their formula and other parts that they did disclose seem a bit iffy
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There are a number of small details that we have in our methodology to make it reflective of a résumé for a tournament team -- these are pretty technical and many people won't be interested, so we won't go into detail, but we think they improve how the tool works.ESPN's college football FPI uses recruiting rankings as a part of their formula.
On top of this, we decided to incorporate a little bit more information than the other power ranking systems use. In particular, we added a way of accounting for missing players.
If a team or its opponent is missing one of its most important players (determined by minutes per game) for a contest, that game is less important for ranking the teams compared to games in which both teams are at full strength.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2017, 05:10:53 PM
I really hope that the committee doesn't use the BPI as a source of decision making. They intentionally conceal parts of their formula and other parts that they did disclose seem a bit iffy
I agree with that, I think that all Sabin was saying is that the most consistent indicator that he's found for NCAA selection is the SOR part of BPI.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2017, 06:45:49 PM
As of now, I got Ku with the overall #2 seed, a 1in MW.
I got WV a 4, Isu a 5, OkSt a 10, and us in a play in game.
The fighting Brad's resume isn't as good as people perceive. They only have 6 Top 100 wins, went 1-8 vs Top 4 in Conference. We are their 4th best win. RPI is 41
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2017, 06:50:34 PM
Thought I heard Committee does look at things like KenPom and perhaps BPI but they aren't big factors. I think RPI is more important than bpi to them
As of now, I got Ku with the overall #2 seed, a 1in MW.
I got WV a 4, Isu a 5, OkSt a 10, and us in a play in game.
The fighting Brad's resume isn't as good as people perceive. They only have 6 Top 100 wins, went 1-8 vs Top 4 in Conference. We are their 4th best win. RPI is 41
Individually they may look at other metrics, but officially as a committee RPI is currently all they use. However, they met with a bunch of the metrics people earlier this year and a move to adding others is in the works for the future, but currently is not officially used.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2017/1/13/14264948/ncaa-tournament-selection-committee-process-rpi-advanced-stats
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The only bad news? This meeting is taking place too late for any of this to affect the way the 2017 NCAA Tournament is seeded. Using an aggregate metric won't be an option to be part of the selection process until at least 2018.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2017, 10:41:26 PM
More good bubble news
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2017, 10:59:52 PM
Wake -
1) have 3 Top 50 wins, all in ACC. Lville is the only huge win
2) they went 4-10 vs ACC teams that will make NCAA.
3) they lost to Clemson twice and Cuse once.
4) They have a RPI 39, SOS 22. Solid.
5)Their 4th/5th best wins are at Charleston and Bucknell (RPI 60/63)
6) they went 10-10 vs ACC teams. 19-13 overall
7) they have no bad losses
I mean, I'm little biased, but I think our resume is better.
We went 3-3 vs 3 seed Baylor & 4 seed Huggy
Our 4th-6th best wins are at OKSt, at CSU, at TCU
We went 20-13.
Our RPI & SOS are weaker
We beat 3 Tourney teams away from home. Wake beat VTech
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2017, 11:07:16 PM
So the last team, #68 could be USC. Maybe
Usc-
1)24-9 record, 11-9 vs P12
2) of those 11 wins vs P12, 5 are to teams 200+ in RPI. 3 vs teams 101-200
3) they also beat Stanford and Colorado, 92 & 95 RPI
4) so 1 good P12 win, UCLA. 1 good NonCon W, SMU
5) 3rd & 4th best wins are BYU (65rpi) on neutral and at aTm (88).
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 12:18:55 AM
East Midwest. South. West
_____________________________________
1. Nova 2. KU 3. UNC 4. Zags
8. Duke 7. Oregon 6. UK 5. AZ
9. Baylor. 10. Lville. 12. UCLA. 11. FSU
16. Fla. 15 N Dame 14 Butler. 13. WV
Post by: gatoveintisiete on March 12, 2017, 01:13:57 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 01:46:17 AM
I don't think Ksu would have made it if we lost to Baylor. I just don't. If we don't make it now.... I'm very disappointed. We will likely be matched up with an equal of ours. Win that and play a 5/6 seed next game.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 03:07:45 AM
3 years, the best 2 Play-in teams faced off. Then the 3rd took on the the 4th. Most times, this was like a 11 vs 11 and 12 vs 12.
However, 2 of those 5 years.... The best "last 4 in" team faced the #3. And the 2 faced the 4.
Case in point, 2013. The last 4 was the overall 45 vs 49 & 46 vs 50
So I have no idea who we would play in the " play in game"
My gut just tells me we will be an 11 seed. Not a 12.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 12, 2017, 04:16:08 AM
Post by: BostonPancake on March 12, 2017, 07:49:43 AM
:crossfingers:
Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2017, 09:06:31 AM
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Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2017, 10:25:43 AM
That sucks. I was thinking the win over Baylor would get us a 9 or 10
I suppose it is possible to sneak up to a 10, but almost all the mock brackets have us in the 11 or 12 play in game.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 12, 2017, 10:29:34 AM
That sucks. I was thinking the win over Baylor would get us a 9 or 10
There are 3 Big East teams at 10 or 11 that do not have play ins. That probably won't happen. They will probably send xavier there just to sell a few tickets.
The autobid sitch is getting pretty stupid when all the 12-16 seeds are sutobids, with all but 4 getting "byes". Thats 18 not good teams that get a bye.
Post by: BackPayne on March 12, 2017, 10:44:53 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 10:54:30 AM
That sucks. I was thinking the win over Baylor would get us a 9 or 10
I'd guess the last 6 teams in will be
11 seed
11 seed
11 seed vs 11 seed play in game
12 seed vs 12 seed play in game
I think there is an 85% we make the Tourney.
I think 70% chance we are in the play in game, 15% we get an 11 with no play in, 15% chance that we don't make it. If we would gave beaten WV and lost to Isu, I think there was a good chance we would have jumped up to a 10 seed
Post by: Steffy08 on March 12, 2017, 11:05:43 AM
That sucks. I was thinking the win over Baylor would get us a 9 or 10
I'd guess the last 6 teams in will be
11 seed
11 seed
11 seed vs 11 seed play in game
12 seed vs 12 seed play in game
I think there is an 85% we make the Tourney.
I think 70% chance we are in the play in game, 15% we get an 11 with no play in, 15% chance that we don't make it. If we would gave beaten WV and lost to Isu, I think there was a good chance we would have jumped up to a 10 seed
Solid stats. I hope you are right. But I'll take "don't get in" paying 6/1 odds.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2017, 11:17:32 AM
Solid stats. I hope you are right. But I'll take "don't get in" paying 6/1 odds.
Why?
Post by: bws on March 12, 2017, 11:30:26 AM
[https://twitter.com/D1scourse/status/840960316431335426]
Post by: catastrophe on March 12, 2017, 11:34:19 AM
That said, I see the odds of getting left out as being pretty low.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 12, 2017, 11:39:14 AM
Frank vs oscar in Dayton?Would happily beat that as. They look super shitty.
[https://twitter.com/D1scourse/status/840960316431335426]
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 12, 2017, 11:46:28 AM
I could see the Cats getting left out due to non-con SOS. It's really the perfect opportunity for the committee to make a statement if they wanted to.
That said, I see the odds of getting left out as being pretty low.
Of our 13 noncon games, four were against p5 teams and one against the MWC champion. We even played a roadie at SLU. If anyone is going to be made an example of its Cuse or USC.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 12, 2017, 11:47:02 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 12, 2017, 11:59:24 AM
oscar will win a play-in game and tout his tournament victory for the rest of his career here.
In theory that win would be a better win than any of the wins that the 1-4 seeds will get in the first round.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 12, 2017, 12:04:30 PM
oscar will win a play-in game and tout his tournament victory for the rest of his career here.
In theory that win would be a better win than any of the wins that the 1-4 seeds will get in the first round.
True but they earned an easier path. We will have had a mediocre season and get rewarded with a winnable tournament game.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 12, 2017, 12:07:54 PM
oscar will win a play-in game and tout his tournament victory for the rest of his career here.
In theory that win would be a better win than any of the wins that the 1-4 seeds will get in the first round.
lol, love this
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 12:08:14 PM
I can't believe all the Twitter talk about Duke getting a 1 seed. They keep pointing out their 13 top 50 wins. I know they beat UNC 2 of 3 times, but UNC had 11 top 50 wins. They also were 14-4, not 11-7 in ACC like Duke. The regular season still counts for a lot. Don't ever recall a team in a P5 finishing 3 games back of a team and ending up with a higher seed. Duke is very very likely gonna be the 2 with either Nova or KU (As Gonzaga and AZ will be top 2 seeds out West)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2017, 12:24:34 PM
Post by: Trim on March 12, 2017, 12:27:23 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 12:30:58 PM
That sucks. I was thinking the win over Baylor would get us a 9 or 10
I'd guess the last 6 teams in will be
11 seed
11 seed
11 seed vs 11 seed play in game
12 seed vs 12 seed play in game
I think there is an 85% we make the Tourney.
I think 70% chance we are in the play in game, 15% we get an 11 with no play in, 15% chance that we don't make it. If we would gave beaten WV and lost to Isu, I think there was a good chance we would have jumped up to a 10 seed
Solid stats. I hope you are right. But I'll take "don't get in" paying 6/1 odds.
Whoever is team 68 getting in is gonna be weak.
* USC, beat 1 Pac12 team with a top 90 RPI.
* Cuse, who only wins away from home were vs the #12 and #13 ACC teams. Plus a 84 RPI
* Illinois St, 2 wins vs the top 100. Their best win away from home was vs #128 RPI. That is also their 3rd best overall win
* Iowa, 14 losses with an 81 RPI. Went 4-10 away from home. 3 losses outside the top 100
Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2017, 01:04:39 PM
I don't think the P5 bubble is any different than normal this year either, there is just a lack of strong mid major teams that are selection bid worthy.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 01:46:40 PM
That just takes them from last 4 in game (probably a 11 seed now).
I now have Xavier, KState, Wake and ?? as the play in teams.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2017, 01:49:30 PM
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Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 02:24:39 PM
How is Vandy going to avoid a play in game when they are going to be the first at large team ever with 15 losses?
They beat Fla 3x, beat Iowa St, at Arkansas. 5 pretty solid wins for a 10-11 seed. But the #1 SOS added with those wins is why they avoid Dayton.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 12, 2017, 02:29:33 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 12, 2017, 02:32:32 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 02:47:01 PM
1. Nova. 2 KU. 3. UNC. 4. Zags
8. UO. 7. Duke 6. UK. 5. AZ
9. Baylor 12. UCLA 10. Lville 11.Fsu
16. Fla. 14. ND. 15. WV. 13. Butler
5-- Purdue Virginia Iowa St Cincy
6-- Minnesota SMU St Mary's Wisconsin
7-- Creighton Maryland Michigan Arkansas
8-- Dayton Miami VCU Seton Hall
9-- Va Tech Wichita St South Carolina Northwestern
10-- Marquette OkSt Vandy Michigan St
11-- Rhode Island Providence
Last 4 -- Xavier KState Wake Forest USC
That's my final projections.
The fun begins in less than 2 hours. Hope we are apart of the fun
Post by: kim carnes on March 12, 2017, 02:48:48 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 12, 2017, 02:50:35 PM
Rumor has it that we're being left out. Don't shoot the messengerI, for one, appreciate the tip, Kim.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 12, 2017, 02:57:39 PM
I think S. Carolina is going to Dayton
Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
Post by: AbeFroman on March 12, 2017, 03:23:07 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
With the play-in options, how do we match up?
I will do a full profile of whoever we end up playing.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 12, 2017, 03:33:49 PM
oscar will win a play-in game and tout his tournament victory for the rest of his career here.
In theory that win would be a better win than any of the wins that the 1-4 seeds will get in the first round.
lol, love this
I fail to see what's funny, someone help me out.
Post by: sys on March 12, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 12, 2017, 04:07:27 PM
oscar will win a play-in game and tout his tournament victory for the rest of his career here.
In theory that win would be a better win than any of the wins that the 1-4 seeds will get in the first round.
lol, love this
I fail to see what's funny, someone help me out.
I also knew you would take my post the wrong way.
You are correct, and I find that "quirk" interesting
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 04:23:49 PM
you really get into this, pp.
Yep. I always have. Even back in the late 90s and early 2000s when KState stunk, I always enjoyed doing the research of the teams and doing my projections.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 12, 2017, 04:31:54 PM
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Post by: BostonPancake on March 12, 2017, 04:32:41 PM
Are we having a Selection gathering with cameras?
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No (per Kellis)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 12, 2017, 04:32:59 PM
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Post by: CHONGS on March 12, 2017, 04:35:08 PM
Post by: BostonPancake on March 12, 2017, 04:38:45 PM
:ohno:
Post by: The Big Train on March 12, 2017, 04:41:05 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on March 12, 2017, 04:42:07 PM
USC made itThat isn't a surprise.
:ohno:
Post by: AbeFroman on March 12, 2017, 04:45:01 PM
But I guess wisky did just embarrass themselves on cbs a few minutes ago so...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 12, 2017, 04:47:12 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on March 12, 2017, 04:50:26 PM
Post by: AbeFroman on March 12, 2017, 04:51:57 PM
We aren't making the tournament
Post by: BostonPancake on March 12, 2017, 04:58:03 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 12, 2017, 04:59:14 PM
We aren't making the tournament
:lol:
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 12, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
We might be mumped guys
:lol:
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 05:00:09 PM
:Woot: :Woot: :Woot:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 12, 2017, 05:00:18 PM
Trajectory rising!
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 12, 2017, 05:00:34 PM
Post by: catastrophe on March 12, 2017, 05:00:42 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 05:00:50 PM
:Woot: :Woot: :Woot:
Post by: Spracne on March 12, 2017, 05:01:03 PM
Post by: HELLHAMMER on March 12, 2017, 05:01:21 PM
Post by: BostonPancake on March 12, 2017, 05:01:41 PM
barely squeaked in.
Barely counts
Post by: SdK on March 12, 2017, 05:03:47 PM
Post by: Canary on March 12, 2017, 05:04:14 PM
Post by: Canary on March 12, 2017, 05:04:57 PM
Fan was rightHe often is. :)
Post by: ArchE_Cat on March 12, 2017, 05:05:05 PM
Post by: Joker on March 12, 2017, 05:05:10 PM
3 year rebuild culminating in a play in game!
Trajectory rising!
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The fan base is clearly re-energized and with a tournament win oscar's future is looking extremely bright!
Post by: The Big Train on March 12, 2017, 05:05:50 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 12, 2017, 05:06:06 PM
3 year rebuild culminating in a play in game!
Trajectory rising!
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The fan base is clearly re-energized and with a tournament win oscar's future is looking extremely bright!
Oh yeah. Start selling the 17-18 season tickets now. Extension, Raise oscar!
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Post by: Canary on March 12, 2017, 05:07:58 PM
It shouldn't count as an NCAA appearance. Play ins for any other seed than 16 are stupid. If you're a power 5 team and have to get in via a play in, then you don't deserve to be in the tournament.Fortunately for Cats and Cat fans the system doesn't work in agreement with your thinking.
Post by: jasn88cubs on March 12, 2017, 05:10:35 PM
"Well we only had 5 days to prepare!"
Post by: AbeFroman on March 12, 2017, 05:11:33 PM
Post by: pvegs on March 12, 2017, 05:12:16 PM
Post by: MadCat on March 12, 2017, 05:13:49 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 12, 2017, 05:19:02 PM
All we have to do to make the Final 4 is beat Wake, Cincy, UCLA, Kentucky, and North Carolina :)
Sweet 16 seems doable.
Post by: dal9 on March 12, 2017, 05:21:05 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 12, 2017, 05:22:28 PM
Post by: CHONGS on March 12, 2017, 05:26:00 PM
Post by: Canary on March 12, 2017, 05:27:01 PM
I agree if we show up with intensity.All we have to do to make the Final 4 is beat Wake, Cincy, UCLA, Kentucky, and North Carolina :)
Sweet 16 seems doable.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 12, 2017, 05:28:43 PM
Post by: TheTruth on March 12, 2017, 05:29:45 PM
It shouldn't count as an NCAA appearance. Play ins for any other seed than 16 are stupid. If you're a power 5 team and have to get in via a play in, then you don't deserve to be in the tournament.
This x 1,000,000
Post by: Skipper44 on March 12, 2017, 05:29:53 PM
oscar's schedule paid off big time. He would be an idiot to not do this every year.probably the most important part of his job
Post by: Brock Landers on March 12, 2017, 05:30:13 PM
Cuse got robbed
Not really. 14 loss teams don't get robbed.
Post by: dal9 on March 12, 2017, 05:30:34 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 12, 2017, 05:40:36 PM
Easily the least excited I've been and that includes Asbury's year when I knew we'd get killed.
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Post by: catastrophe on March 12, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Post by: sys on March 12, 2017, 05:50:07 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 06:03:44 PM
Kstate last team taken
Post by: AbeFroman on March 12, 2017, 06:05:12 PM
Post by: sys on March 12, 2017, 06:16:19 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/SelectionSunday?src=hash
Kstate last team taken
my goodness. so close.
Post by: CHONGS on March 12, 2017, 06:20:52 PM
oscar rides the bubble like Eddie Aikau rides the waves. Man's a savant.https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/SelectionSunday?src=hash
Kstate last team taken
my goodness. so close.
Post by: CHONGS on March 12, 2017, 07:02:36 PM
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Post by: michigancat on March 12, 2017, 07:48:39 PM
kRusty gets a chance at a sac-town game tho!Wow I just realized this. How wonderful!
Post by: MakeItRain on March 12, 2017, 09:36:03 PM
The 19th NCAA tourney appearance for Kstate since I started paying attention.
Easily the least excited I've been and that includes Asbury's year when I knew we'd get killed.
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My God that game was AWFUL
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2017, 11:25:39 PM
1. Nova. 2 KU. 3. UNC. 4. Zags
8. UO. 7. Duke 6. UK. 5. AZ
9. Baylor 12. UCLA 10. Lville 11.Fsu
16. Fla. 14. ND. 15. WV. 13. Butler
5-- Purdue Virginia Iowa St Cincy
6-- Minnesota SMU St Mary's Wisconsin
7-- Creighton Maryland Michigan Arkansas
8-- Dayton Miami VCU Seton Hall
9-- Va Tech Wichita St South Carolina Northwestern
10-- Marquette OkSt Vandy Michigan St
11-- Rhode Island Providence
Last 4 -- Xavier KState Wake Forest USC
That's my final projections.
The fun begins in less than 2 hours. Hope we are apart of the fun
This just shows an average Joe like me can project this stuff. Lunardi and Jerry Palm get too much tv time
I was able to get 27 of those 46 with the right seeds. Missed 16 teams by 1 seed line, missed 3 teams by 2 seed lines. I think I did decent
Lunardi got 24 of 46, missed 16 by 1 seed, missed 5 teams by 2 seeds. He had Cuse in over USC.
Palm had 22 of 46. Missed 19 teams by 1 seed, missed 5 teams by 2 seeds
Post by: pvegs on March 13, 2017, 12:22:29 AM
The 19th NCAA tourney appearance for Kstate since I started paying attention.
Easily the least excited I've been and that includes Asbury's year when I knew we'd get killed.
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My God that game was AWFUL
wasn't that the year we played new mexico and everyone got the flu or something? i just remember coming home from school all excited to check the score and then it was like, welp, eff it. guess i'll shoot nerf hoops in the basement instead
Post by: MakeItRain on March 13, 2017, 12:39:48 AM
The 19th NCAA tourney appearance for Kstate since I started paying attention.
Easily the least excited I've been and that includes Asbury's year when I knew we'd get killed.
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My God that game was AWFUL
wasn't that the year we played new mexico and everyone got the flu or something? i just remember coming home from school all excited to check the score and then it was like, welp, eff it. guess i'll shoot nerf hoops in the basement instead
New Mexico State, it was New Mexico State that kicked our asses, total embarrassment.
Post by: BostonPancake on March 13, 2017, 06:30:30 AM
The 19th NCAA tourney appearance for Kstate since I started paying attention.
Easily the least excited I've been and that includes Asbury's year when I knew we'd get killed.
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My God that game was AWFUL
wasn't that the year we played new mexico and everyone got the flu or something? i just remember coming home from school all excited to check the score and then it was like, welp, eff it. guess i'll shoot nerf hoops in the basement instead
New Mexico State, it was New Mexico State that kicked our asses, total embarrassment.
No, it was New Mexico.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_NCAA_Division_I_Men's_Basketball_Tournament
MIR, you may be thinking of the NIT game against NC State in 1998. That was a terrible game:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_National_Invitation_Tournament
Post by: pvegs on March 13, 2017, 06:38:50 AM
The 19th NCAA tourney appearance for Kstate since I started paying attention.
Easily the least excited I've been and that includes Asbury's year when I knew we'd get killed.
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My God that game was AWFUL
wasn't that the year we played new mexico and everyone got the flu or something? i just remember coming home from school all excited to check the score and then it was like, welp, eff it. guess i'll shoot nerf hoops in the basement instead
New Mexico State, it was New Mexico State that kicked our asses, total embarrassment.
No, it was New Mexico.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_NCAA_Division_I_Men's_Basketball_Tournament
MIR, you may be thinking of the NIT game against NC State in 1998. That was a terrible game:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_National_Invitation_Tournament
thx, bc. now find the article that confirms we caught west nile virus or something shortly before the game.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 13, 2017, 09:39:44 AM
The 19th NCAA tourney appearance for Kstate since I started paying attention.
Easily the least excited I've been and that includes Asbury's year when I knew we'd get killed.
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My God that game was AWFUL
wasn't that the year we played new mexico and everyone got the flu or something? i just remember coming home from school all excited to check the score and then it was like, welp, eff it. guess i'll shoot nerf hoops in the basement instead
New Mexico State, it was New Mexico State that kicked our asses, total embarrassment.
No, it was New Mexico.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_NCAA_Division_I_Men's_Basketball_Tournament
MIR, you may be thinking of the NIT game against NC State in 1998. That was a terrible game:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_National_Invitation_Tournament
I remember listening to that NIT game on the radio. I also remember losing at home to Billy Tubbs and TCU two seasons later
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 13, 2017, 09:44:39 AM
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 13, 2017, 08:54:07 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 13, 2017, 09:07:48 PM
Post by: catastrophe on March 13, 2017, 11:17:11 PM
The boys on PTI were not okay with Kansas State making it in over Indiana St and Syracuse.
Don't know much about the redbirds, but Syracuse getting in would have been pretty WTF to me.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 14, 2017, 11:14:52 AM
You mean Illinois State, right?
I don't know, maybe
Post by: AbeFroman on March 14, 2017, 11:42:44 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 22, 2018, 08:08:14 AM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 22, 2018, 08:52:21 AM
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 22, 2018, 09:40:09 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 22, 2018, 11:27:47 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Wow...I've been hearing the Big 12 was for sure getting 7 in. The question was whether they could make it 8. Hopefully the Big 12 can perform well against the SEC.
Post by: catastrophe on January 22, 2018, 01:44:10 PM
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 22, 2018, 08:24:46 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 22, 2018, 08:26:45 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 22, 2018, 08:34:23 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 24, 2018, 09:42:16 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 24, 2018, 09:53:20 AM
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Post by: cat97 on January 24, 2018, 10:29:37 AM
Maybe some of you follow this closer than I do and can correct me if I am wrong about the value of road wins.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2018, 10:41:26 AM
If it is really true the committee is going to place more value on road wins, I question is these bracketologists are taking that into account. We currently have true road wins at Vanderbilt, WSU, ISU and Baylor. I think ISU and Baylor would be given the same value as the home wins over OU and TCU
Maybe some of you follow this closer than I do and can correct me if I am wrong about the value of road wins.
They redefined quality wins. So there is a bit more emphasis on road wins, but over decent teams.
(https://image.ibb.co/i5EOKG/quality_wins.png)
We are currently 2-4 in tier 1, 2-0 in tier 2, 4-1 in tier 3, and 7-0 in tier 4. We probably need at least 6-8 tier 1/2 wins to be safely in.
Post by: KITNfury on January 24, 2018, 11:15:42 AM
I still don't feel that KSU has to do anything that crazy to get in the tournament if we just keep playing at the level we have been. SOS will go up as the season progresses, which is a big factor in RPI.If we keep playing the way we've been playing, we may end up winning the conference. I would say that's a tall order.
Post by: Prince McJunkins on January 24, 2018, 11:19:40 AM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 24, 2018, 11:49:28 AM
I just don’t want to sweat selection Sunday. I don’t think a 5-7 seed range with this team is too much to ask.I will go as far to say that this team could be a 4 to 7 team. We have had a lot of mentions in Big 12 media recently since we gave other teams the success to shut down one of the best players in the country, we are going to take care of business saturday against Georgia. Then going to what could go down as one of the biggest games of Bruces career so far in Bramlage. This whole 5 game stretch has been a telling one to the committee and if they have the balls to put us 7th or above I will be one angry cat fan.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 24, 2018, 03:30:56 PM
The committee will find the next Wisconsin or Tucky as opponent; add a bad whistle for good measure.
Everybody will be butt hurt over the KITN.
Or we could just rough ridin' win a game? Cats fans act like if we play a decent team in the tourney then we've been suffered some kind of moral injustice. We lost to LaSalle in the first round in an effective home game for Christ's sake. I will except no excuses if we're one and done again this year. I mean, there's probably no way that lack of postseason success ever tanks oscar, but I'm still going to act like it should, because we should have standards, goddammit.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 24, 2018, 03:34:19 PM
Post by: DQ12 on January 24, 2018, 03:37:12 PM
I don't think it's crazy to think a school like K-State could have a couple sweet sixteen appearances each decade. Until we stopped trying to win at basketball for like two decades that would have been a conservative expectation. Basketball landscape has changed, so it's not as easy for us to have that rate of success, but it's not like some kind of pipe dream or something to expect a couple short runs every ten years..I wonder how many schools have multiple sweet 16s over the last 10 years
Post by: wetwillie on January 24, 2018, 03:50:42 PM
I don't think it's crazy to think a school like K-State could have a couple sweet sixteen appearances each decade. Until we stopped trying to win at basketball for like two decades that would have been a conservative expectation. Basketball landscape has changed, so it's not as easy for us to have that rate of success, but it's not like some kind of pipe dream or something to expect a couple short runs every ten years..I wonder how many schools have multiple sweet 16s over the last 10 years
I'd guess 20 bare minimum probabaly more
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 24, 2018, 03:53:28 PM
I don't think it's crazy to think a school like K-State could have a couple sweet sixteen appearances each decade. Until we stopped trying to win at basketball for like two decades that would have been a conservative expectation. Basketball landscape has changed, so it's not as easy for us to have that rate of success, but it's not like some kind of pipe dream or something to expect a couple short runs every ten years..I wonder how many schools have multiple sweet 16s over the last 10 years
38 teams. a handful that have made it twice in the last eleven years. So, essentially you'd have to have a top ~40 program. It would not be hard to field a top 40 basketball team consistently.
Post by: mocat on January 24, 2018, 04:23:19 PM
I don't think it's crazy to think a school like K-State could have a couple sweet sixteen appearances each decade. Until we stopped trying to win at basketball for like two decades that would have been a conservative expectation. Basketball landscape has changed, so it's not as easy for us to have that rate of success, but it's not like some kind of pipe dream or something to expect a couple short runs every ten years..I wonder how many schools have multiple sweet 16s over the last 10 years
i'm glad you asked. 35 different schools have multiple sweet 16 appearances in the last 10 years (2008-2017).
here is the list:
7 Kansas, Michigan State, North Carolina, Wisconsin
6 Arizona, Duke, Kentucky, Louisville, Xavier
5 Florida, Syracuse
4 Baylor, Gonzaga, Ohio State, UCLA, West Virginia
3 Butler, UConn, Indiana, Marquette, Michigan, Oklahoma, Oregon, Purdue, Tennessee, Villanova
2 Iowa State, Memphis, Miami (FL), NC State, Notre Dame, San Diego State, Stanford, Virginia, Wichita State
24 other schools have made the sweet 16 exactly once in that span:
BYU
Cincinnati
Cornell
Davidson
Dayton
Florida State
Florida-GC
Kansas State
La Salle
Maryland
Missouri
Northern Iowa
Ohio
Pittsburgh
Richmond
South Carolina
St. Mary's
Texas
Texas A&M
Utah
VCU
Washington
Washington State
Western Kentucky
Post by: DQ12 on January 24, 2018, 04:25:09 PM
Post by: mocat on January 24, 2018, 04:35:04 PM
in his career he's gotten to the sweet 16 twice with xavier and five (5!) times with arizona. four (4!) elite eights. amazing he's never cracked the final 4 barrier.
oh and he also has 7 conference 'ships in his last 11 seasons. that's elite.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2018, 05:54:53 PM
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Post by: schreds21 on January 24, 2018, 08:35:46 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 24, 2018, 10:16:03 PM
Oklahoma doesn't even give a crap about hoops, and they've got three.
This ^^
Post by: mocat on January 25, 2018, 11:39:49 AM
i went ahead and did elite 8 appearances also for the same 10 year period (2008-2017)
of the 35 teams who made the sweet 16 multiple times, 28 made it to the elite 8 at least once:
6 Kentucky, North Carolina
5 Florida, Kansas, Louisville
4 Michigan State
3 Arizona, Duke, Syracuse, UConn
2 Baylor, Butler, Gonzaga, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Villanova, Wisconsin, Xavier
1 Marquette, Memphis, Tennessee, UCLA, Virginia, West Virginia, Wichita State
the other 7 schools were skunked
0 for 3: Indiana, Purdue
0 for 2: Iowa State, Miami (FL), NC State, San Diego State, Stanford
6 schools turned their only sweet 16 appearance into an elite 8 appearance:
Davidson '08
Texas '08
Missouri '09
Pittsburgh '09
Kansas State '10
Dayton '14
2 schools turned their only sweet 16 appearance into a final four run:
VCU '11
South Carolina '17
Post by: detch23 on January 25, 2018, 12:18:01 PM
POWERCAT POSSE STYLE NERD POST ALERT
i went ahead and did elite 8 appearances also for the same 10 year period (2008-2017)
of the 35 teams who made the sweet 16 multiple times, 28 made it to the elite 8 at least once:
6 Kentucky, North Carolina
5 Florida, Kansas, Louisville
4 Michigan State
3 Arizona, Duke, Syracuse, UConn
2 Baylor, Butler, Gonzaga, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Villanova, Wisconsin, Xavier
1 Marquette, Memphis, Tennessee, UCLA, Virginia, West Virginia, Wichita State
the other 7 schools were skunked
0 for 3: Indiana, Purdue
0 for 2: Iowa State, Miami (FL), NC State, San Diego State, Stanford
6 schools turned their only sweet 16 appearance into an elite 8 appearance:
Davidson '08
Texas '08
Missouri '09
Pittsburgh '09
Kansas State '10
Dayton '14
2 schools turned their only sweet 16 appearance into a final four run:
VCU '11
South Carolina '17
I love this break down.. would be fun to do it with coaches. That would show what long term impact a coach has in a program. I'll be waiting for your report. :bwpopcorn:
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 25, 2018, 12:24:13 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 25, 2018, 12:27:37 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 25, 2018, 12:31:24 PM
Why would you be surprised by OU? They've had two national player of the year candidates in this stretch and have another this year.Maybe because we have had a fair number of wins over them recently. Watching games on TV where their area is mostly empty. Like someone else mentioned, the perception that they don't care about being good at basketball.
Post by: cfbandyman on January 25, 2018, 12:45:28 PM
Why would you be surprised by OU? They've had two national player of the year candidates in this stretch and have another this year.
Or Wisconsin for that matter. There was a like a 5 year period where they seemed to always be in the S16, and they make the champ game.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 25, 2018, 01:05:25 PM
Why would you be surprised by OU? They've had two national player of the year candidates in this stretch and have another this year.Maybe because we have had a fair number of wins over them recently. Watching games on TV where their area is mostly empty. Like someone else mentioned, the perception that they don't care about being good at basketball.
Outside of games vs KU, OSU, or maybe Texas their fans don't care, but they invest in their program.
Post by: mocat on January 25, 2018, 01:51:02 PM
4 Kentucky, North Carolina
3 Michigan State, UConn
2 Butler, Duke, Kansas, Louisville, Syracuse, Villanova, Wisconsin
1 Florida, Gonzaga, Memphis, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, UCLA, VCU, West Virginia, Wichita State
if you want to use a 10 year span of tournament results to judge a program, maybe we can come up with some tiers
A++ tier (3+ final fours) 4 schools
A+ tier (2+ final fours) 11 schools
A tier (2+ elite eights) 21 schools
B+ tier (1+ final four) 23 schools
B tier (1+ elite eights) 28 schools
B- tier (2+ sweet sixteens) 35 schools
C tier (1+ sweet sixteen) 59 schools
Trash tier (no sweet sixteens) no idea how many, probably a crap ton like 292 or something
the Trash tier could probably be split up into schools that have made the tournament at least X number of times, and schools that have not, but that's more work and it doesn't matter
Post by: mocat on January 25, 2018, 01:55:32 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 26, 2018, 01:05:32 PM
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2018/01/25/bracket-watch-update-kansas-state-michigan-state-oklahoma
Post by: manpow5 on January 26, 2018, 01:15:24 PM
SHOCKing match up
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2018/01/25/bracket-watch-update-kansas-state-michigan-state-oklahoma
Ha. I see what you did there :gocho:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 26, 2018, 01:18:15 PM
Post by: mocat on January 26, 2018, 01:42:36 PM
We are b tier but headed at lightning speed towards trash
yeah oscar has 2 or 3 years to make a sweet 16 or he has officially run the program into the ground
Post by: 8manpick on January 26, 2018, 08:24:31 PM
Post by: mocat on January 26, 2018, 08:48:29 PM
If oscar gets two or three years to make a sweet 16 then it's our admin who ran this program to the ground, not oscar
That's like charging the mother of an abortion with murder
Post by: 8manpick on January 26, 2018, 08:52:50 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 29, 2018, 10:01:08 AM
Up to a 10
Post by: kso_FAN on January 29, 2018, 10:46:46 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Up to a 10
Use this: http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 29, 2018, 10:49:39 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 03, 2018, 11:27:30 PM
Right now, I think Ksu is in Last 4 in. With VA Tech, Houston, Boise St
the 4 right above last 4 in..... arkansas , USC, Mizzou, Washington
first 2 teams not in.... SMU, Georgia,
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 04, 2018, 12:06:20 AM
9-9 entering B12T, we are probably last 4 in. Losing 1st Rd game in KC, and odds of making it aren't good.
Go 10-8...we are good. Probably a 10 seed, avoiding the play in game. Maybe get as good as a 9 if we make B12T semis.
Somehow go 11-7.…we are solid. Probably in the 8 vs 9 game.
As of now...that's my thoughts
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2018, 09:56:14 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 08, 2018, 10:18:29 AM
The other P5 are going to get 6-8 teams in each.
Post by: I_have_purplewood on February 08, 2018, 10:58:30 AM
Have you guys noticed how hot garbage-y the big 10 and P12 are. They're looking at only getting 4 teams in each.
The other P5 are going to get 6-8 teams in each.
Both the B10 and P12 will get 5 in the dance. I'm not saying that they're not garbage-y but several of those garbage-y teams are still ahead of us.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 08, 2018, 11:04:41 AM
You look at the standings and see Nebraska in fourth and it's like :surprised: then you realize most of their games are against teams ranked 7, 10, 11, 12, and 13 in a 14 team conference and they only have 3 top 100 wins.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 08, 2018, 11:08:17 AM
Have you guys noticed how hot garbage-y the big 10 and P12 are. They're looking at only getting 4 teams in each.
The other P5 are going to get 6-8 teams in each.
Both the B10 and P12 will get 5 in the dance. I'm not saying that they're not garbage-y but several of those garbage-y teams are still ahead of us.
I think it's fair to say the 5th team from those conf right now are Washington and Nebraska, and if we're not ahead of those teams irl this thing is rigged.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 08, 2018, 11:09:39 AM
The Big 10 isn't garbage, they're just top heavy and all of the good teams are in the east. Like the old Big 12, they don't have their standings by division but their schedules are unbalanced and they do them by the football division. The Big 10 west is far and away the worst division in major college basketball this year.
You look at the standings and see Nebraska in fourth and it's like :surprised: then you realize most of their games are against teams ranked 7, 10, 11, 12, and 13 in a 14 team conference and they only have 3 top 100 wins.
There are 3 good teams, 1 okay team and 10 trash teams. It's the AAC.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 08, 2018, 11:20:10 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 08, 2018, 11:23:44 AM
The P12 is definitely shittier than the B10.
Post by: TownieCat on February 08, 2018, 11:48:22 AM
Yes, and please excuse my hyperbole re the AAC.
The P12 is definitely shittier than the B10.
Arizona State has the best noncon resume in the country and then fell off a cliff once P12 play started. Makes no sense.
I bet both the P12 and the big 10 get 5 teams in somehow.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 08, 2018, 02:27:08 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2018, 02:32:17 PM
For some stupid reason I watched Cal Colorado last night :Yuck:OMG, me too. Just the first half. :Yuck:
Post by: michigancat on February 08, 2018, 03:43:07 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 08, 2018, 04:31:07 PM
It wasn't expcted that Northwestern Minnesota & Wisconsin would be combined 12-25 in conference with only 7 combined Tier 1 & 2 wins
Pac12 - they have 3 awful teams. But the teams 5-9 according to RPI rankings, all have 4 or fewer good Tier 1 & 2 wins. KState has 7 wins for a reference.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 08, 2018, 08:45:24 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 08, 2018, 11:19:01 PM
Hey Posse, do you know who Lacey is?
No
Post by: Gooch on February 09, 2018, 08:59:30 AM
"A biggie Shorty party is hot"
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 11, 2018, 12:45:04 AM
Last 4 in.... Washington, Houston, Ucla, Syracuse
Next 4 -- Nc St, KState , Louisville, Arkansas
USC lost 2x this week
Boise lost to RPI 147 team.
Marquette won at Seton Hall, but then lost at ST Johns, dropping to 5-8 in conference
Temple beat Auburn/Clemson on neutral site. Have RPI of 39. But 10 losses, 7-6 in American
Post by: kso_FAN on February 13, 2018, 08:43:15 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 13, 2018, 09:46:49 PM
Louisville is very similar. 18-8 and only 3 wins in the Q1/Q2. Lunardi has them with a 9. I think they are a fraction away from being in a play-in game. Basically the same spot we are in
Post by: #LIFE on February 13, 2018, 10:47:52 PM
Off the Chart above, I have no clue why Lunardi has Michigan as a 6 seed in latest Bracketology. Only 4 of the 19 wins are Q1/Q2 and their non con SOS isn't real good (258). Both of the Q1 wins are on the road (Sparty, Texas) but more like a 10 seed.
Louisville is very similar. 18-8 and only 3 wins in the Q1/Q2. Lunardi has them with a 9. I think they are a fraction away from being in a play-in game. Basically the same spot we are in
Maybe they factor in coaching prowess.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 14, 2018, 12:36:16 AM
Off the Chart above, I have no clue why Lunardi has Michigan as a 6 seed in latest Bracketology. Only 4 of the 19 wins are Q1/Q2 and their non con SOS isn't real good (258). Both of the Q1 wins are on the road (Sparty, Texas) but more like a 10 seed.
Louisville is very similar. 18-8 and only 3 wins in the Q1/Q2. Lunardi has them with a 9. I think they are a fraction away from being in a play-in game. Basically the same spot we are in
Maybe they factor in coaching prowess.OurYour coach has made it to the round of 32 exactly once in the last 12 years
This nigga can't read.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 15, 2018, 08:54:39 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Post by: renocat on February 15, 2018, 09:11:53 AM
Post by: meow meow on February 15, 2018, 09:54:50 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 15, 2018, 09:56:12 AM
Post by: wetwillie on February 15, 2018, 10:00:39 AM
at what point as a fan do you say, it's time to win a tournament game? is year 6 too early?
Won a game in the tourney last year so...
Post by: meow meow on February 15, 2018, 10:11:45 AM
at what point as a fan do you say, it's time to win a tournament game? is year 6 too early?
Won a game in the tourney last year so...
i mean like an actual win tho, year 8?
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2018, 10:18:23 AM
Post by: wetwillie on February 15, 2018, 10:25:55 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2018, 10:31:29 AM
the TCU thing is kind of weird especially if we sweep them in league play and have more wins in conference and in total than them.
At some point they have to slide. Their tier wins and road record doesn't compare to those around them. They should probably still be in right now, but they should be down on the 10 or 11 line.
Post by: mocat on February 15, 2018, 10:33:34 AM
TCU: #27, 11-8 vs top 100
KSU: #66, 7-8 vs top 100
today RPI:
TCU: #27, 11-8 vs top 100
KSU: #56, 8-8 vs top 100
it's crazy that another top 100 win raised our RPI 10 spots, even though AFAIK we didn't swap the 4 worst teams on our schedule with anybody. it's almost like if we get 3 more top 100 wins, we could have pretty much the same RPI as TCU! wow!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2018, 10:36:34 AM
last week RPI:
TCU: #27, 11-8 vs top 100
KSU: #66, 7-8 vs top 100
today RPI:
TCU: #27, 11-8 vs top 100
KSU: #56, 8-8 vs top 100
it's crazy that another top 100 win raised our RPI 10 spots, even though AFAIK we didn't swap the 4 worst teams on our schedule with anybody. it's almost like if we get 3 more top 100 wins, we could have pretty much the same RPI as TCU! wow!
:D
Post by: mocat on February 15, 2018, 10:39:50 AM
the TCU thing is kind of weird especially if we sweep them in league play and have more wins in conference and in total than them.
it's crazy what happens when you get 6 noncon top 100 wins (TCU) instead of 1 noncon top 100 win (KSU)
Post by: wetwillie on February 15, 2018, 10:44:16 AM
Post by: catastrophe on February 15, 2018, 10:45:27 AM
last week RPI:
TCU: #27, 11-8 vs top 100
KSU: #66, 7-8 vs top 100
today RPI:
TCU: #27, 11-8 vs top 100
KSU: #56, 8-8 vs top 100
it's crazy that another top 100 win raised our RPI 10 spots, even though AFAIK we didn't swap the 4 worst teams on our schedule with anybody. it's almost like if we get 3 more top 100 wins, we could have pretty much the same RPI as TCU! wow!
I mean, no one is arguing that KSU's RPI should be higher or that TCU's should be lower. Obviously it's a computer function. The question is whether TCU deserves to be an 8 seed with their resume.
Post by: mocat on February 15, 2018, 10:48:26 AM
I mean, no one is arguing that KSU's RPI should be higher or that TCU's should be lower.
well Ben Boyle was
Post by: DQ12 on February 15, 2018, 11:01:02 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 15, 2018, 11:02:06 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 15, 2018, 11:18:22 AM
10 seeds thru the last 4 in are overall seeds #37 to #46, then I have Kstate at #38, Tcu #40 and Texas #45
Texas next 2 games are at Ou and at KState. They appear to be on their way out. Baylor next 2 are at home vs Tech & WVU.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 15, 2018, 11:29:30 AM
our resume looks a lot like virginia tech's.
Very similar.
Our Non Con SOS are both awful
We have 4/4, them 5/3 on the Q1/Q2 wins
5 of the 8 Q1/Q2 wins are on the road
Both 7-6 in Conf. And 8 overall losses
Both have 1 loss in Q3 Tier
We have more wins vs Top 100
Their best wins at Virginia, Vs NC better than our OU win
Post by: MakeItRain on February 15, 2018, 01:21:38 PM
at what point as a fan do you say, it's time to win a tournament game? is year 6 too early?
There literally isn't a single person in the world who is happy with oscar's NCAA tournament record, literally not a single one. In a world of stupid hottakes, this is the dumbest one. This is part and parcel with people who type the phrase "our fans are okay with mediocrity." I wish anyone who ever says or types that gets their stupid fingers slammed in a car door.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2018, 01:23:33 PM
at what point as a fan do you say, it's time to win a tournament game? is year 6 too early?
There literally isn't a single person in the world who is happy with oscar's NCAA tournament record, literally not a single one. In a world of stupid hottakes, this is the dumbest one. This is part and parcel with people who type the phrase "our fans are okay with mediocrity." I wish anyone who ever says or types that gets their stupid fingers slammed in a car door.
:lol:
The rallying cry of "I'm not accepting mediocrity" has definitely caught on lately.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 15, 2018, 01:32:09 PM
Post by: meow meow on February 15, 2018, 01:54:56 PM
at what point as a fan do you say, it's time to win a tournament game? is year 6 too early?
There literally isn't a single person in the world who is happy with oscar's NCAA tournament record, literally not a single one. In a world of stupid hottakes, this is the dumbest one. This is part and parcel with people who type the phrase "our fans are okay with mediocrity." I wish anyone who ever says or types that gets their stupid fingers slammed in a car door.
^^^ ok with mediocrity
Post by: MakeItRain on February 15, 2018, 01:58:43 PM
the TCU thing is kind of weird especially if we sweep them in league play and have more wins in conference and in total than them.
it's crazy what happens when you get 6 noncon top 100 wins (TCU) instead of 1 noncon top 100 win (KSU)
Hold on man, their six top 100 wins were against
South Dakota
St. Bonaventure
Belmont
SMU
Nevada
William & Mary
It's also worth noting that the St. Bonaventure and Nevada games weren't scheduled by TCU, one was a tournament and one was a one off classic game they likely got from winning the NIT.
In May and June when these things are scheduled does that really look much differently than
Arizona State
Tulsa
Vanderbilt
UC Irvine
George Washington
Washington State
Now to give TCU credit, I think the bigger issue is that they don't have nearly as many dogs as K-State. K-State played 6 teams with a sub 225 RPI, TCU played 2. oscar absolutely needs to play a better schedule but we don't need to act like TCU ran through a gauntlet. They got lucky teams like South Dakota and William & Mary have decent RPIs.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2018, 02:14:49 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 15, 2018, 04:05:38 PM
the TCU thing is kind of weird especially if we sweep them in league play and have more wins in conference and in total than them.
it's crazy what happens when you get 6 noncon top 100 wins (TCU) instead of 1 noncon top 100 win (KSU)
Hold on man, their six top 100 wins were against
South Dakota
St. Bonaventure
Belmont
SMU
Nevada
William & Mary
It's also worth noting that the St. Bonaventure and Nevada games weren't scheduled by TCU, one was a tournament and one was a one off classic game they likely got from winning the NIT.
In May and June when these things are scheduled does that really look much differently than
Arizona State
Tulsa
Vanderbilt
UC Irvine
George Washington
Washington State
To be fair, TCU went 6-0 against their slate and KSU went 4-2.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 15, 2018, 05:15:08 PM
2) 2011, you might recall Colorado getting left out of NCAA despite going 8-8 and beating us 3 times (Meanwhile we were a 5 seed at 10-6). Colorado was 16-11 overall with a 325 Non-Con SOS (Ours was 34 that year). And they only had 2 other Top 100 wins. They had more losses to sub 101 teams (2) than road wins vs top 100 (1) that year. Lack of good wins + horrible schedule is a bad formula, especially when it's a 16-11,8-8 team
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 16, 2018, 09:59:08 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 16, 2018, 10:12:26 AM
Post by: mocat on February 16, 2018, 11:01:43 AM
1. kansas 16
2. xavier 15
3. virginia 14
4. texas tech 13
4. unc 13
6. villanova 12
7. cincinnati 11
7. alabama 11
7. west virginia 11
7. tcu 11
7. florida 11
7. texas a&m 11
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26. kansas state 8
most top 50 wins
1. virginia 9
2. villanova 8
3. xavier 7
3. texas a&m 7
5. kansas 6
5. north carolina 6
5. oklahoma 6
5. LSU 6
6. florida 6
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35. tcu 3
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53. kansas state 2
Post by: kso_FAN on February 16, 2018, 11:08:42 AM
Post by: sys on February 16, 2018, 11:11:34 AM
Post by: mocat on February 16, 2018, 11:20:35 AM
mocat, I'm not against using Top 100/50 wins as something to look at, but do you not believe in the tier game system that the NCAA has actually stated they are using to replace that?
yep, again, i'm not commenting on how the committee uses the RPI. my initial foray into this mess was based on a tweet that ignorantly criticized the RPI system itself (which is much different than criticizing how a committee does or does not use the system).
i'm just continuing to emphasize that a team's RPI ranking has little to do with what goes on in the >200 portion of its schedule.
fwiw i think the tier system you mentioned is a great way to apply the RPI
Post by: sys on February 16, 2018, 11:31:07 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 16, 2018, 11:55:06 AM
mocat, I'm not against using Top 100/50 wins as something to look at, but do you not believe in the tier game system that the NCAA has actually stated they are using to replace that?
yep, again, i'm not commenting on how the committee uses the RPI. my initial foray into this mess was based on a tweet that ignorantly criticized the RPI system itself (which is much different than criticizing how a committee does or does not use the system).
i'm just continuing to emphasize that a team's RPI ranking has little to do with what goes on in the >200 portion of its schedule.
fwiw i think the tier system you mentioned is a great way to apply the RPI
I get that.
I just see that K-State is 8-7 vs Tier 1 & 2 and 6-3 on the road. TCU is 6-9/2-6. We've played the same number of quality games, won more, and are better on the road.
Post by: kslim on February 16, 2018, 12:09:07 PM
Post by: mocat on February 16, 2018, 12:11:04 PM
rough ridin' tulsa :curse:
TCU's tulsa is worse than ours
Post by: kslim on February 16, 2018, 12:17:37 PM
i dont care about tcu, we should have never lost that game.rough ridin' tulsa :curse:
TCU's tulsa is worse than ours
Post by: mocat on February 16, 2018, 12:18:56 PM
i dont care about tcu, we should have never lost that game.rough ridin' tulsa :curse:
TCU's tulsa is worse than ours
no i mean they have a worse loss than Tulsa on their resume and it had no effect on their RPI
Post by: kslim on February 16, 2018, 12:51:15 PM
oh, i see what you are saying now. i generally just look at the overall record and 20+wins in the big 12 should get it done regardless of nonconi dont care about tcu, we should have never lost that game.rough ridin' tulsa :curse:
TCU's tulsa is worse than ours
no i mean they have a worse loss than Tulsa on their resume and it had no effect on their RPI
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 16, 2018, 01:38:06 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
I have no clue why Palm has a job. He's never that accurate.
He has Houston seeded higher than Bama. Bama has 7/2 on the Q1/Q2 wins. They have a good NonCon SOS (23). Houston is 5/1 on the good wins and has a 271 NonCon SOS.
Bama 8-5 in 3rd rated Conference
Houston 10-3 in 7th rated Conference
Few others I disagree with, but the Bama/Houston one made me LOL.
Post by: wetwillie on February 16, 2018, 01:39:50 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on February 16, 2018, 01:45:24 PM
Outside of losing the rest of our games is there any prayer of us missing the tourney?
probably would have to go 1-5 or worse in our last 5 plus big 12 tourney to not make the tourney. i think 2-3 last 5 reg season gets us in.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 16, 2018, 01:51:42 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 16, 2018, 01:52:17 PM
Outside of losing the rest of our games is there any prayer of us missing the tourney?
probably would have to go 1-5 or worse in our last 5 plus big 12 tourney to not make the tourney. i think 2-3 last 5 reg season gets us in.
This is very disheartening
Post by: kslim on February 16, 2018, 02:11:26 PM
Getting so excited for this years 4 day bender/march madness man caveathon this year. :ksu:would you rather go watch a good bracket at a great location or watch the cats in wichita (who will not likely make it out of wichita)?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 16, 2018, 02:13:41 PM
Post by: kslim on February 16, 2018, 02:26:35 PM
Great location. I don't think i'm heading to Wichita even if they're there. I did get excited about the Charlotte site. Now that we've done so much to the downstairs, I might even do a staycation and meet up with some buds in the afternoon. :emawkid: :cheers:pittsburgh looks good, i was thinking about that one. especially if we play florida
Post by: ChiComCat on February 16, 2018, 02:30:36 PM
I would possibly do Wichita this year but that's it (barring some magical end of season run).
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 16, 2018, 02:34:04 PM
I loved my trip there. Got totally lost in the city and had a blast. They also have a huge st pattys day parade around the center where the games are. I would definitely go back there.Great location. I don't think i'm heading to Wichita even if they're there. I did get excited about the Charlotte site. Now that we've done so much to the downstairs, I might even do a staycation and meet up with some buds in the afternoon. :emawkid: :cheers:pittsburgh looks good, i was thinking about that one. especially if we play florida
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 16, 2018, 02:36:21 PM
I have a hard time spending the money and time to travel unless we're a high enough seed to make a splash. Partly because I don't want to make the effort to watch us lose and partly because it's tough to beat sitting at a sports bar with four games on.Totally good times as well. I was in LA seeing my buddy last year for the tournament. It was tough there tho. He found a Kansas bar, but it was actually a KU bar, and they wouldn't let us put a TV on K-state. Had to go find somewhere that would play it. Love that city, but not a place for a sports weekend.
I would possibly do Wichita this year but that's it (barring some magical end of season run).
Post by: pissclams on February 16, 2018, 02:54:29 PM
-9am games with breakfast and mimosas
-transplant city, a good sports bar like the parlor on melrose or the beanery will be packed with college fans from every school in the field
-the weather
-the food
-the babes
-games done by 9, time to go out and party
just because your squawk buddy brought you to a squawk bar doesn’t mean it’s not a perfect city for madness
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 16, 2018, 03:03:44 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 16, 2018, 03:05:58 PM
Post by: I_have_purplewood on February 16, 2018, 04:04:56 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
I have no clue why Palm has a job. He's never that accurate.
He has Houston seeded higher than Bama. Bama has 7/2 on the Q1/Q2 wins. They have a good NonCon SOS (23). Houston is 5/1 on the good wins and has a 271 NonCon SOS.
Bama 8-5 in 3rd rated Conference
Houston 10-3 in 7th rated Conference
Few others I disagree with, but the Bama/Houston one made me LOL.
You are so correct about him. The worst.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 16, 2018, 08:27:56 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 17, 2018, 09:16:04 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 17, 2018, 09:33:55 AM
They are de-emphasizing it, they wanted to starting last year. The committee is struggling whether to use predictive formulas or ones that are more of a snapshot of what teams have accomplished, or how they will weigh each model because they're likely to use a combination of both.
Yes, but they will still use it to put teams into groups. The tier win system for quality wins, SOS, etc are all still based on the RPI I believe. But they will also have other metrics available on the team sheets from what I understand.
Post by: sys on February 17, 2018, 12:06:56 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 17, 2018, 12:36:49 PM
they should not use predictive methods, that's completely inappropriate. teams need to be evaluated purely based on accomplishments.Aren't most (all?) of the predictive measurements based on accomplishments? Maybe this was your point.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 17, 2018, 12:51:53 PM
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Post by: sys on February 17, 2018, 01:01:38 PM
they should not use predictive methods, that's completely inappropriate. teams need to be evaluated purely based on accomplishments.Aren't most (all?) of the predictive measurements based on accomplishments? Maybe this was your point.
only if you consider mol/mov an accomplishment. to me, an athletic contest is winner take all. for ncaa tournament consideration, a team should get no credit for a close loss, nor an extra credit for a blowout.
Post by: michigancat on February 17, 2018, 02:15:20 PM
they should not use predictive methods, that's completely inappropriate. teams need to be evaluated purely based on accomplishments.Aren't most (all?) of the predictive measurements based on accomplishments? Maybe this was your point.
only if you consider mol/mov an accomplishment. to me, an athletic contest is winner take all. for ncaa tournament consideration, a team should get no credit for a close loss, nor an extra credit for a blowout.
yes but the committee is able to differentiate from multiple teams with the same record and few (or zero) common opponents every year. I don't see how ranking quality of wins is any different than factoring MOV, in principal. They are all attempts at being predictive and rely on results from the past to make those predictions.
Post by: sys on February 17, 2018, 02:30:46 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 17, 2018, 03:06:44 PM
it's different in principal, if less so in practice. the principal is that the only thing that matters is whether you win or lose the game. it gets messier when you factor in anything other than record into your perception of the quality of the win or loss, which we all do, whether explicitly or implicitly. but the principle is not violated, at least among first order interactions.
Any method used to evaluate and compare strength of teams other than winning percentage is an attempt to be predictive. (Winning percentage can be, too, but it's the only method truly based solely on accomplishments as you define it.)
Post by: sys on February 17, 2018, 06:03:50 PM
it is acceptable to use predictive measures to define opponent quality because there is no alternative to using some qualitative criteria to do so, and a predictive measure is more rigorous and less subject to bias than most other possible criteria.
it is not acceptable to use them directly to determine who gets in the tournament, because a predictive measure if a team should have won more or less than they did should never supersede if they actually won or lost the games they played.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 18, 2018, 09:09:12 PM
25-4 record
Not a strong Non Con (202 SOS)
Overall SOS 157, because WCC isn't that good beyond them & Zags
Q1 win - at Gonzaga. Q2 wins - at Byu, N.Mexico St.
Only 2 road wins vs Top 150.
2 losses in the Q3 Tier (those are not good)
So to sum up. They have 3 good wins, 2 bad losses, very few quality road wins. After playing a weaker non con schedule, they will play 14 of 18 games in the WCC against teams between 148-325 in RPI
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 19, 2018, 12:42:37 PM
Team A --
21-7 Record
Non Con SOS 273
Conference SOS 52
Q1 record 3-5
Q2 record 3-2
Road/Nuetral in Q1/Q2 games 3-6
No bad losses
Team B --
19-8 record
Non Con SOS 99
Conference SOS 70
Q1 record 5-7
Q2 record 1-1
Road/Neutral in Q1/Q2 games 3-7
No bad losses
I think these resumes are pretty similar. Lunardi has them seeded quite differently. He has 1 team 5 seeds higher than the other.
Michigan a 5. Arkansas a 10
KState Resume for comparison--
19-8 record
Non Con SOS 336
Conference SOS 7
Q1 record 3-6
Q2 record 5-1
Road/Nuetral in Q1/Q2 5-4
1 bad loss, Q3 loss - Tulsa RPI 86
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 19, 2018, 12:44:45 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 19, 2018, 01:54:10 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/iSppY7/Bracket_Comparison.png)
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 19, 2018, 02:54:03 PM
As of this morning's bracket matrix....
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Yep. Michigan's Ave. Seed was 7.3 & Arkansas 7.7 while ours was 10.2 on Bracket Matrix.
When speaking of these 12 teams in the 8-10 seeds, the gap between the best 8 seed and the worst 10 seed isn't much IMO. The concensus has Michigan and Houston as 7 seeds. I would personally put those 2 as part of the 12 teams....then have FLA & Creighton with 7 seeds.
I already said I think St Mary's is the weakest of the 12 teams. And believe we are right in the middle, the 3rd or 4th best 9 seed.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 19, 2018, 07:36:55 PM
Post by: sys on February 19, 2018, 08:53:41 PM
Post by: pvegs on February 19, 2018, 09:34:38 PM
Based on the eye matrix, we're better than every team on that matrix except maybe ArKansas or Creighton.
i agree with fsd. oh, bby. life is weird.
Post by: wetwillie on February 19, 2018, 09:47:58 PM
hey posse, if kstate beats ou, they're out, right? they can't get in with their only win in the last 9 being isu at home.
would be the meltiest of meltdowns of all time
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 19, 2018, 10:45:46 PM
hey posse, if kstate beats ou, they're out, right? they can't get in with their only win in the last 9 being isu at home.
1992, Iowa St was 5-9 in Big 8. Beat 13th ranked Mizzou before losing in Semis of Big8 Tourney.
Got an an large bid at 17-12
1998, Florida St went 6-10 in ACC. Lost in opening round of ACC tourney. Got at large bid at 17-13
That was a different era. Those are the only 2 teams that were worse than 2 under .500 in Conference play that got in with At large. Several have done it being 2 under .500
I guess it's possible that Ou could make it at 7-11. I definitely don't think they should.
Post by: catastrophe on February 20, 2018, 11:26:21 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 20, 2018, 12:50:27 PM
So HBBIQ-ers, what’s it gonna take down the stretch to secure a non-play-in tournament seed for the Cats? 2-2? Sure seems like a 10-8 Big 12 record should be comfortably in. I don’t see a whole lot of difference between the strength of our opponents down the stretch so not sure it even matters where the W’s come from.
If we went 2-2 & 0-1 in KC.....i would be surprised if we are in a play-in game.
If we go 1-3 & 0-1, then the possibility is very real we end in a play-in game. And at that point, with a 9-10 overall record vs Big 12 teams, the chance of not making is there. It would come down to what other teams do. At 1-3 and 1-1 in KC, I'm confident we would be in, just not sure what seed
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
So HBBIQ-ers, what’s it gonna take down the stretch to secure a non-play-in tournament seed for the Cats? 2-2? Sure seems like a 10-8 Big 12 record should be comfortably in. I don’t see a whole lot of difference between the strength of our opponents down the stretch so not sure it even matters where the W’s come from.
Agreed.
Post by: WildcatNation on February 20, 2018, 12:53:14 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2018, 12:56:54 PM
Florida State has basically the same resume as us and is projected as an 8 seed?
Yeah, when you start comparing some of these individually it is pretty crazy.
Post by: wetwillie on February 20, 2018, 01:13:14 PM
Post by: catastrophe on February 20, 2018, 02:09:08 PM
Since we have already beaten each of the teams we are going to play, is there a chance that our losses could actually still improve KSU's tournament resume? Example: Texas is currently 53 in RPI. If they beat us tomorrow, I'm assuming they could get up to top 50, which ironically (at least temporarily) adds one top 50 win to our resume instead of two top 100 wins. Obviously a win helps more, but is there a point where the difference between a win and loss is kind of a wash?
Post by: ChiComCat on February 20, 2018, 02:13:20 PM
Now for the REALLY HBBIQ-ers:
Since we have already beaten each of the teams we are going to play, is there a chance that our losses could actually still improve KSU's tournament resume? Example: Texas is currently 53 in RPI. If they beat us tomorrow, I'm assuming they could get up to top 50, which ironically (at least temporarily) adds one top 50 win to our resume instead of two top 100 wins. Obviously a win helps more, but is there a point where the difference between a win and loss is kind of a wash?
Absurd longshot: We could go 4-0 and end up with no wins against an NCAA tournament team.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2018, 02:31:07 PM
Now for the REALLY HBBIQ-ers:
Since we have already beaten each of the teams we are going to play, is there a chance that our losses could actually still improve KSU's tournament resume? Example: Texas is currently 53 in RPI. If they beat us tomorrow, I'm assuming they could get up to top 50, which ironically (at least temporarily) adds one top 50 win to our resume instead of two top 100 wins. Obviously a win helps more, but is there a point where the difference between a win and loss is kind of a wash?
There are no top 50 wins anymore. It's all about the quads/tiers.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-07-14/di-mens-basketball-committee-redefines-quality-win
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 20, 2018, 02:34:23 PM
Now for the REALLY HBBIQ-ers:
Since we have already beaten each of the teams we are going to play, is there a chance that our losses could actually still improve KSU's tournament resume? Example: Texas is currently 53 in RPI. If they beat us tomorrow, I'm assuming they could get up to top 50, which ironically (at least temporarily) adds one top 50 win to our resume instead of two top 100 wins. Obviously a win helps more, but is there a point where the difference between a win and loss is kind of a wash?
No. A win in any of these 4 games is much more important than a loss.
Like FAN said, top 50 isn't relevant. It's about Q1 and Q2 Tier wins.
Q1 - Top 30 home win, top 50 Neutral win, top 75 road win
Q2- Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Road 76-135
That said, hypothetically if Tcu ends at 29 or 31 on RPI....our home win vs them won't be viewed much differently, even though 1 scenario it's a Q1 win and another it's Q2. The committee will see that a home win vs TCU is a good win.
We have 8 wins in the Q1/Q2 categories. It's unlikely that any of those will fall and become Q3. Each of these last 4 games will get an Opportunity to get a Q1 or Q2 win.
Post by: mocat on February 20, 2018, 02:36:25 PM
Now for the REALLY HBBIQ-ers:
Since we have already beaten each of the teams we are going to play, is there a chance that our losses could actually still improve KSU's tournament resume? Example: Texas is currently 53 in RPI. If they beat us tomorrow, I'm assuming they could get up to top 50, which ironically (at least temporarily) adds one top 50 win to our resume instead of two top 100 wins. Obviously a win helps more, but is there a point where the difference between a win and loss is kind of a wash?
Absurd longshot: We could go 4-0 and end up with no wins against an NCAA tournament team.
that would be incredible and hilarious but there's no way the b12 ends up with only 4 in
Post by: michigancat on February 20, 2018, 02:45:47 PM
Post by: catastrophe on February 20, 2018, 02:56:32 PM
Now for the REALLY HBBIQ-ers:
Since we have already beaten each of the teams we are going to play, is there a chance that our losses could actually still improve KSU's tournament resume? Example: Texas is currently 53 in RPI. If they beat us tomorrow, I'm assuming they could get up to top 50, which ironically (at least temporarily) adds one top 50 win to our resume instead of two top 100 wins. Obviously a win helps more, but is there a point where the difference between a win and loss is kind of a wash?
There are no top 50 wins anymore. It's all about the quads/tiers.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-07-14/di-mens-basketball-committee-redefines-quality-win
I was just using that as a simple example. But if I understand your and PP's responses it sounds like the quad system won't allow a single win/loss to significantly alter the quality of another win/loss when one is at home and one is on the road.
Post by: catastrophe on February 20, 2018, 02:58:44 PM
can't wait to see if we end up a 10 seed or a play-in participant
I've said it before, but I actually think if you're not going to be a top 4 seed then 10/11 is a good place to be. 8/9 is one of the worst; playing a toss-up game followed immediately by playing a #1 seed.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2018, 03:27:42 PM
can't wait to see if we end up a 10 seed or a play-in participant
I've said it before, but I actually think if you're not going to be a top 4 seed then 10/11 is a good place to be. 8/9 is one of the worst; playing a toss-up game followed immediately by playing a #1 seed.
People say this all the time but there's little to no difference between a 1 and a 2, this is magnified this year. There will be blue bloods on the 2 line, not so much the 1 other than Villanova.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2018, 03:28:45 PM
Now for the REALLY HBBIQ-ers:
Since we have already beaten each of the teams we are going to play, is there a chance that our losses could actually still improve KSU's tournament resume? Example: Texas is currently 53 in RPI. If they beat us tomorrow, I'm assuming they could get up to top 50, which ironically (at least temporarily) adds one top 50 win to our resume instead of two top 100 wins. Obviously a win helps more, but is there a point where the difference between a win and loss is kind of a wash?
There are no top 50 wins anymore. It's all about the quads/tiers.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-07-14/di-mens-basketball-committee-redefines-quality-win
I was just using that as a simple example. But if I understand your and PP's responses it sounds like the quad system won't allow a single win/loss to significantly alter the quality of another win/loss when one is at home and one is on the road.
Correct.
Post by: catastrophe on February 20, 2018, 03:35:53 PM
can't wait to see if we end up a 10 seed or a play-in participant
I've said it before, but I actually think if you're not going to be a top 4 seed then 10/11 is a good place to be. 8/9 is one of the worst; playing a toss-up game followed immediately by playing a #1 seed.
People say this all the time but there's little to no difference between a 1 and a 2, this is magnified this year. There will be blue bloods on the 2 line, not so much the 1 other than Villanova.
My point is more geared towards whether you have to play a 1 or 2 in the opening weekend.
Post by: wetwillie on February 20, 2018, 03:39:27 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2018, 03:44:31 PM
can't wait to see if we end up a 10 seed or a play-in participant
I've said it before, but I actually think if you're not going to be a top 4 seed then 10/11 is a good place to be. 8/9 is one of the worst; playing a toss-up game followed immediately by playing a #1 seed.
People say this all the time but there's little to no difference between a 1 and a 2, this is magnified this year. There will be blue bloods on the 2 line, not so much the 1 other than Villanova.
My point is more geared towards whether you have to play a 1 or 2 in the opening weekend.
I know, a 10 would play a 2 in the second round as opposed to a 8/9 playing a 1. The line of demarcation is at 11 and 12, it's why a first four team has made the sweet 16 every year.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 20, 2018, 04:07:36 PM
In recent years, the 2s have had a harder time making the Sweet 16. Past 8 years, 13x a 2 seed, 6x a 1 seed failed to make the 2nd weekend. Now 3 of those 13 were the 2 seed losing to a 15 (not a 7/10)
Post by: CHONGS on February 20, 2018, 04:11:20 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 20, 2018, 04:33:01 PM
All this nonsense about quads and tiers should be reserved for tie breakers as to the last 4 teams in the tournament. Should Wichita State get punished for losing to a healthy notre dame, while ku gets rewarded for beating an injured aTm, no.
We have a committee getting paid to use their brains and expertise to decide who goes where, not sort skittles into piles by color. My 3-yr old can do that.
Post by: catastrophe on February 20, 2018, 04:46:36 PM
can't wait to see if we end up a 10 seed or a play-in participant
I've said it before, but I actually think if you're not going to be a top 4 seed then 10/11 is a good place to be. 8/9 is one of the worst; playing a toss-up game followed immediately by playing a #1 seed.
People say this all the time but there's little to no difference between a 1 and a 2, this is magnified this year. There will be blue bloods on the 2 line, not so much the 1 other than Villanova.
My point is more geared towards whether you have to play a 1 or 2 in the opening weekend.
I know, a 10 would play a 2 in the second round as opposed to a 8/9 playing a 1. The line of demarcation is at 11 and 12, it's why a first four team has made the sweet 16 every year.
You're right, I actually meant 11/12 are the better spots. Not 10/11.
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on February 21, 2018, 10:09:26 AM
Post by: pissclams on February 21, 2018, 10:15:39 AM
Petro was on 810 yesterday discussing whether 10-8 would be enough to get KSU into the dance. :shakesfist:
petro knows his stuff and hopefully he is right and 10-8 might not be good enough for the cats to dance
Post by: wetwillie on February 21, 2018, 10:21:20 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on February 21, 2018, 10:28:29 AM
Petro was on 810 yesterday discussing whether 10-8 would be enough to get KSU into the dance. :shakesfist:
omg can you believe what that radio guy said :runaway:
Post by: sys on February 21, 2018, 10:28:55 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 21, 2018, 10:33:17 AM
what did petro say about tcu kp30nting this year?
Great topic. Iowa State could really help this cause with some Hilton Magic tonight.
Post by: sys on February 21, 2018, 10:35:33 AM
Post by: #LIFE on February 21, 2018, 11:45:04 AM
Getting on the 8/9 line is great because you can expect to get pasted by the 1 seed in the round of 32 and have zero expectations of winning.
Pfft, there have been 3 blue moons since oscar reached this extraordinary event
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on February 21, 2018, 11:48:48 AM
Post by: meow meow on February 21, 2018, 11:55:01 AM
Play in game is def best for "Bruceology" ... gives him the best shot at another "tourney win" and advancement into the "second round".
they don't call that the second round anymore after getting pi'd by everyone
Post by: kslim on February 21, 2018, 01:37:04 PM
Yeah i was hoping baylor would beat wvu last night as well, I think they are a tournament team if they can go 2-1 and win a game in the pepper. tcu baylor saturday should be interestingwhat did petro say about tcu kp30nting this year?
Great topic. Iowa State could really help this cause with some Hilton Magic tonight.
Post by: catastrophe on February 21, 2018, 11:54:11 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 22, 2018, 12:13:49 AM
What an interesting resume for Oklahoma State. I feel like it's pretty tough to ignore despite their RPI of 100+
Non Con SOS 305
Non Con Wins = 1 (Q1) 0 (Q2) 2 (Q3) 7 (Q4)
Total Road wins all year = 2
6-9 record in Conference
Their wins at WV/Ku and vs Tech are great, but when you combine the 4 things above, its easy to see why they are not a real bubble team right now. Getting swept by KState/Tcu/Baylor did them no favors.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 22, 2018, 02:17:42 AM
5-6 seeds (#17-24 overall)------ I think Ohio St, Rhode Island, Gonzaga are 5 seeds. Kentucky, Nevada, and Arizona St would be in this group too. I'm not really sure who deserves the last Two 6 seeds
7-8 seeds (#25-32), Now I will put 10 teams in this group, not 8. I think these teams are so close in their overall resume,so not necessarily in order----- Houston, Butler, Bama, VTech, Michigan, FSU, Mizzou, Creighton, KState, Providence
9-10 seeds (#33-40) Florida, TCU, Seton Hall, Arkansas, Texas A&M, OU, Miami, NC State.
St Mary's & St Bony are #41,42. Texas & Baylor in the mix for Last 4 In (#43-46)
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 22, 2018, 07:52:06 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 22, 2018, 09:19:04 AM
(https://image.ibb.co/nQAHQx/Bracket_Comparison.png)
Post by: mocat on February 22, 2018, 09:19:58 AM
Post by: wetwillie on February 22, 2018, 09:27:52 AM
Post by: PIPE on February 22, 2018, 09:28:29 AM
hopefully we can drop a couple more to get back on that sexy 10 line. 8/9 is the worst
Why? Does it matter? Are you looking at the next round against a #1 seed?
oscar hasn't won a 1st round game yet, no worries........ :shakesfist:
Post by: kso_FAN on February 22, 2018, 09:30:56 AM
who is on the 7 line in that bracket matrix fan
Here's what I have.
Butler
Saint Mary's College
Texas A&M
Florida State
I took bracketmatrix projections from last night and tweaked it a little bit this time so some of those teams moved around a little bit.
Post by: wetwillie on February 22, 2018, 09:36:26 AM
Post by: catastrophe on February 22, 2018, 09:38:47 AM
I feel like a 9 seed is pretty high right now, but if we beat OU (longshot, IMO given they will be in desperation mode at home) we probably will end up a 10 or better.
Post by: mocat on February 22, 2018, 09:40:51 AM
hopefully we can drop a couple more to get back on that sexy 10 line. 8/9 is the worst
Why? Does it matter? Are you looking at the next round against a #1 seed?
oscar hasn't won a 1st round game yet, no worries........ :shakesfist:
i've been saying it all year, 6th time's the charm
Post by: KITNfury on February 22, 2018, 10:12:56 AM
Man, why did we have to lose to Tulsa. 3-7 doesn't look great for T-1, but it that 6-0 T-2 looks pretty sexy.I probably should worry more about OU than I am. They look like absolute dogshit right now.
I feel like a 9 seed is pretty high right now, but if we beat OU (longshot, IMO given they will be in desperation mode at home) we probably will end up a 10 or better.
Post by: 'taterblast on February 22, 2018, 10:49:03 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
(http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 22, 2018, 10:49:56 AM
Texas A&M is 6-9 in SEC. Very similar boat to OU where they don't want to drop 2 of last 3
St Mary's was a 7 seed last year. I have studied Bracketology long enough, I know when and when not to compare years.
2017 SM, 2018 SM (Comparison)
Record = 28-4, 25-4
SOS = 78, 159
Q1 wins = 3, 2
Q2 Wins = 4,1
4 losses in 17' - 3 were Q1 (all Zags), 1 Q2
4 losses in 18' - 2 Q2 and 2 Q3 (so 2 bad losses)
Their resume doesn't match up to other 7-8 seeds this year. They are 10-11 seed material
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 22, 2018, 11:07:05 AM
10 seed vs. 7 Florida
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
(http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
I don't even worry where he has KState. It's just hard to take Joey seriously,
Florida St --
19-8
8-7 in ACC
Non Con SOS 321
Conf SOS 30
Q1 Record 6-4
Q2 Record 1-4
VTech --
20-8
9-6 ACC
Non Con SOS 335
Conf SOS 9
Q1 Record 5-6
Q2 Record 4-1
Tech has 1 loss in Q3.
Both beat NC/Clem at home. Tech won at Virginia.
Today - he has Fsu is a 6 seed, VT a 10 seed
Post by: ChiComCat on February 22, 2018, 11:13:04 AM
Man, why did we have to lose to Tulsa. 3-7 doesn't look great for T-1, but it that 6-0 T-2 looks pretty sexy.I probably should worry more about OU than I am. They look like absolute dogshit right now.
I feel like a 9 seed is pretty high right now, but if we beat OU (longshot, IMO given they will be in desperation mode at home) we probably will end up a 10 or better.
Yea, they've been in desperation mode for a couple of weeks now.
Post by: wetwillie on February 22, 2018, 11:18:48 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 22, 2018, 12:09:55 PM
PP where would we play our game location wise according to your algorithm and modeling
Nova & Xavier will get Pittsburgh Pod
Virginia & Duke will get Charlotte Pod
Michigan St & Purdue will get Detroit Pod
Auburn will get Nashville.
Ku will get Wichita
UNC is the best 3 seed and they very likely get Nashville
It's very hard to project right now, but being in the 7-10 seed range, playing in Pittsburgh, Detroit, Charlotte, or Nashville is extremely likely. Very low odds we play in the any of the other 4 cities
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 22, 2018, 01:39:40 PM
What an interesting resume for Oklahoma State. I feel like it's pretty tough to ignore despite their RPI of 100+
Feels v 14/15 heupzcatz. Seemed like they year we slayed as many giants as we lost head scratchers
Post by: ChiComCat on February 22, 2018, 02:53:52 PM
PP where would we play our game location wise according to your algorithm and modeling
Nova & Xavier will get Pittsburgh Pod
Virginia & Duke will get Charlotte Pod
Michigan St & Purdue will get Detroit Pod
Auburn will get Nashville.
Ku will get Wichita
UNC is the best 3 seed and they very likely get Nashville
It's very hard to project right now, but being in the 7-10 seed range, playing in Pittsburgh, Detroit, Charlotte, or Nashville is extremely likely. Very low odds we play in the any of the other 4 cities
If WSU somehow gets to a 3 seed, KSU could play as the 11 in Wichita. I can't see that happening though.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 22, 2018, 04:31:51 PM
hopefully we can drop a couple more to get back on that sexy 10 line. 8/9 is the worst
No difference
Post by: mocat on February 22, 2018, 05:03:01 PM
I would like to avoid uva and the handsome guy, T-Y V-Mhopefully we can drop a couple more to get back on that sexy 10 line. 8/9 is the worst
No difference
Post by: MakeItRain on February 22, 2018, 07:11:32 PM
I would like to avoid uva and the handsome guy, T-Y V-Mhopefully we can drop a couple more to get back on that sexy 10 line. 8/9 is the worst
No difference
They're good, no doubt but both have some assy losses. The handsome guy has one significantly worse than Tulsa.
Also Tony Bennett is handsomer than Jay, sorry SD.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 22, 2018, 07:21:21 PM
who is on the 7 line in that bracket matrix fan
Here's what I have.
Butler
Saint Mary's College
Texas A&M
Florida State
I took bracketmatrix projections from last night and tweaked it a little bit this time so some of those teams moved around a little bit.
Those teams all suck ass, so would take a #10 in that scenario
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 22, 2018, 09:18:06 PM
PP where would we play our game location wise according to your algorithm and modeling
Nova & Xavier will get Pittsburgh Pod
Virginia & Duke will get Charlotte Pod
Michigan St & Purdue will get Detroit Pod
Auburn will get Nashville.
Ku will get Wichita
UNC is the best 3 seed and they very likely get Nashville
It's very hard to project right now, but being in the 7-10 seed range, playing in Pittsburgh, Detroit, Charlotte, or Nashville is extremely likely. Very low odds we play in the any of the other 4 cities
If WSU somehow gets to a 3 seed, KSU could play as the 11 in Wichita. I can't see that happening though.
Wichita is a top 4 seed and likely be in Dallas. Obviously they can't play on their own home court.
Cincy is a 3 now, could very well be in Wichita.
There is a chance Cincy finishes strong and gets a 2. Then KState has an outside shot to be in the 7/10 with them.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 22, 2018, 09:49:50 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 22, 2018, 09:52:37 PM
PP where would we play our game location wise according to your algorithm and modeling
Nova & Xavier will get Pittsburgh Pod
Virginia & Duke will get Charlotte Pod
Michigan St & Purdue will get Detroit Pod
Auburn will get Nashville.
Ku will get Wichita
UNC is the best 3 seed and they very likely get Nashville
It's very hard to project right now, but being in the 7-10 seed range, playing in Pittsburgh, Detroit, Charlotte, or Nashville is extremely likely. Very low odds we play in the any of the other 4 cities
If WSU somehow gets to a 3 seed, KSU could play as the 11 in Wichita. I can't see that happening though.
Wichita is a top 4 seed and likely be in Dallas. Obviously they can't play on their own home court.
Cincy is a 3 now, could very well be in Wichita.
There is a chance Cincy finishes strong and gets a 2. Then KState has an outside shot to be in the 7/10 with them.
Intrust Bank Arena is not their home court. The only way they can't play there is if they're the host. I don't know who's hosting that site, it's either them or ironically the MVC, as that arrangement would have been made before they left. The Big 12 could host there but I'm 99% sure the Big 12 is hosting the Dallas site.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 22, 2018, 10:00:10 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2018, 11:22:57 PM
wait! What's this about? What's oscar's track record? You're making me concerned. Elaborate.hopefully we can drop a couple more to get back on that sexy 10 line. 8/9 is the worst
Why? Does it matter? Are you looking at the next round against a #1 seed?
oscar hasn't won a 1st round game yet, no worries........ :shakesfist:
Post by: kso_FAN on February 23, 2018, 11:09:36 AM
(https://image.ibb.co/hcmAVx/Bracket_Comparison.png)
When I look at our tier and road wins, I can't help but think we could be seeded a line or two higher when the committee really looks at the records.
Post by: wetwillie on February 23, 2018, 11:11:18 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 23, 2018, 11:16:13 AM
Dang TCU moved up to the 7 line, that is absurd.
It is crazy. 7 tier 1/2 wins and 3 road wins. We have 9 and 6.
The bracketologists love them though.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 23, 2018, 11:19:54 AM
Updated again, this time I stayed true to the updated Bracket Matrix projections.
(https://image.ibb.co/hcmAVx/Bracket_Comparison.png)
When I look at our tier and road wins, I can't help but think we could be seeded a line or two higher when the committee really looks at the records.
We'll end up with a rpi in the 40s possibly in the high 30s with a couple of wins in Kansas City. I think we'll be no lower than 10.
Post by: DQ12 on February 23, 2018, 11:20:45 AM
@TCU Tier 1
@Baylor Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2
Plus the Big 12 tournament. Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.
Post by: kslim on February 23, 2018, 11:23:22 AM
So our next two games will likely be:i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up
@TCU Tier 1
@Baylor Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2
Plus the Big 12 tournament. Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.
Post by: DQ12 on February 23, 2018, 11:25:53 AM
Fixed**So our next two games will likely be:i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up
@OU Tier 1
@TCU Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2
Plus the Big 12 tournament. Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.
No way OU drops to Tier 2.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 23, 2018, 11:31:48 AM
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Kansas State (20-8, 9-6 Big 12)
(BPI: 45 | SOS: 44 | SOR: 21 | RPI: 54)
The game the Wildcats are about to play at Oklahoma represents a fork in the road for two teams traveling in different directions. K-State has won three in a row and the Sooners represent a Quadrant 1 test despite their current struggles.
As an inhabitant of Joe Lunardi's list of "last four byes," Kansas State is in the field but not by a huge margin. A win in Norman would provide a little breathing space, though a victory at TCU in the following game would furnish even more.
Also worth noting regarding lunardi, he's usually trash at seeding the lower seeded at larges until late championship week.
Post by: kslim on February 23, 2018, 11:33:04 AM
lol, no way? are you not paying attention to them?Fixed**So our next two games will likely be:i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up
@OU Tier 1
@TCU Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2
Plus the Big 12 tournament. Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.
No way OU drops to Tier 2.
Post by: 'taterblast on February 23, 2018, 11:33:21 AM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 23, 2018, 11:37:22 AM
Palm has us as a 9 vs 8 Creighton
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
That would be fun.
Post by: catastrophe on February 23, 2018, 11:48:15 AM
Today's bubble watch, we're still in the work left to do category. I thought we'd be in the "should be in category." I think we're a lock though because we'd still be .500 in the #1 conference with an rpi in the low 50s at worst.QuoteKansas State (20-8, 9-6 Big 12)
(BPI: 45 | SOS: 44 | SOR: 21 | RPI: 54)
The game the Wildcats are about to play at Oklahoma represents a fork in the road for two teams traveling in different directions. K-State has won three in a row and the Sooners represent a Quadrant 1 test despite their current struggles.
As an inhabitant of Joe Lunardi's list of "last four byes," Kansas State is in the field but not by a huge margin. A win in Norman would provide a little breathing space, though a victory at TCU in the following game would furnish even more.
Also worth noting regarding lunardi, he's usually trash at seeding the lower seeded at larges until late championship week.
As someone who has been used to living on the bubble the last few years, I am definitely more comfortable with our position than ever before. If we beat OU on the road, I cannot imagine a scenario where KSU misses the field. My only concern is losing out the season AND not winning a game in the Big 12 Tournament. Even then I think we have a decent chance to make the field (but if we don't, it could still be a mixed blessing since oscar's seat would definitely be hot going into next year).
This TCU thing also continues to perplex me.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 23, 2018, 11:53:15 AM
lol, no way? are you not paying attention to them?Fixed**So our next two games will likely be:i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up
@OU Tier 1
@TCU Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2
Plus the Big 12 tournament. Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.
No way OU drops to Tier 2.
Since its a road game, OU would have to drop over 40 spots in the RPI to become a tier 2 game. Some may call this a flaw in the tier system, but its what they are using.
Post by: kslim on February 23, 2018, 11:55:08 AM
OU can and most likely will lose out. thats where i was going with that statementlol, no way? are you not paying attention to them?Fixed**So our next two games will likely be:i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up
@OU Tier 1
@TCU Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2
Plus the Big 12 tournament. Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.
No way OU drops to Tier 2.
Since its a road game, OU would have to drop over 40 spots in the RPI to become a tier 2 game. Some may call this a flaw in the tier system, but its what they are using.
Post by: kslim on February 23, 2018, 11:56:07 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 23, 2018, 11:59:07 AM
i just dont see how you can count that as a "quality win" anymore
Beating a top 75 team on the road is considered tier 1. I get why some people don't like it, but that's the system now.
Post by: DQ12 on February 23, 2018, 12:00:56 PM
i just dont see how you can count that as a "quality win" anymorePlaying at a team with an RPI of 1-75 qualifies as a tier 1 win.
OU's RPI right now is 32. They won't drop 43 spots in two weeks. It's 100% a tier 1 game.
Post by: kslim on February 23, 2018, 12:05:23 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 23, 2018, 12:11:42 PM
so by that account if tulsa wins a couple of games they will most likely be a tier 1 loss
It will be tier 2 if they move up to the top 75. The game in Wichita counts as a home game since K-State handled ticket sales.
Post by: kslim on February 23, 2018, 12:14:14 PM
so if they are in the top 75 and you beat them its a tier 1 win but if you lose its a tier 2 loss?so by that account if tulsa wins a couple of games they will most likely be a tier 1 loss
It will be tier 2 if they move up to the top 75. The game in Wichita counts as a home game since K-State handled ticket sales.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 23, 2018, 12:20:05 PM
so if they are in the top 75 and you beat them its a tier 1 win but if you lose its a tier 2 loss?so by that account if tulsa wins a couple of games they will most likely be a tier 1 loss
It will be tier 2 if they move up to the top 75. The game in Wichita counts as a home game since K-State handled ticket sales.
It varies from home, neutral, and road.
RPI Group 1: Home (1-30) Neutral (1-50) Away (1-75)
RPI Group 2: Home (31-75) Neutral (51-100) Away (76-135)
RPI Group 3: Home (76-160) Neutral (101-200) Away (136-240)
RPI Group 4: Home (161-351) Neutral (201-351) Away (241-351)
Post by: kslim on February 23, 2018, 12:26:23 PM
Post by: mocat on February 23, 2018, 01:15:46 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 23, 2018, 01:25:28 PM
it's like the first semester at the new middle school and kslim missed the first week of geometry class and now is trying to tell professor FAN what a rhombus is
:lol:
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 23, 2018, 01:47:12 PM
it's like the first semester at the new middle school and kslim missed the first week of geometry class and now is trying to tell professor FAN what a rhombus is
:lol:
audibly laughed. Great post mocat
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 23, 2018, 01:50:38 PM
Dang TCU moved up to the 7 line, that is absurd.
It is crazy. 7 tier 1/2 wins and 3 road wins. We have 9 and 6.
The bracketologists love them though.
Here are the Q1/Q2 wins for comparison--
Ksu Q1=
Home - 20
Road - 53,58
Tcu Q1=
Home - 27
Road - 58
Nuetral - 13,26
Ksu Q2=
Home - 32,52,68
Road - 93.108,111
Tcu Q2=
Home - 53
Road - 93,111
1) So both teams have 5 good wins away from home, but 2 of 5 are Nuetral for Tcu
2) KState has 2 more Q1/Q2 wins. KState currently 2 game lead on Tcu in B12. If both of those are the same at seasons end, I don't understand how Tcu is ahead of us. Th difference in the non con SOS is significant, but not enough to these 2 advantages KState has
Post by: kslim on February 23, 2018, 01:52:31 PM
it's like the first semester at the new middle school and kslim missed the first week of geometry class and now is trying to tell professor FAN what a rhombus isouch, deserved it but still OUCH
Post by: kso_FAN on February 23, 2018, 01:53:22 PM
it's like the first semester at the new middle school and kslim missed the first week of geometry class and now is trying to tell professor FAN what a rhombus isouch, deserved it but still OUCH
:cheers:
Post by: sys on February 23, 2018, 02:30:53 PM
Post by: I_have_purplewood on February 24, 2018, 11:37:45 AM
who is on the 7 line in that bracket matrix fan
Here's what I have.
Butler
Saint Mary's College
Texas A&M
Florida State
I took bracketmatrix projections from last night and tweaked it a little bit this time so some of those teams moved around a little bit.
This is what I'm having a hard time with. A&M will most likely finish under .500 in SEC but have several tier 1 wins (many tier 1 losses) and have nice SOS but they're only a 1 point favorite at Vandy today. St. Mary's lost to Washington St. for gods sake. I think the eye test should count for something?
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 25, 2018, 09:10:02 PM
5 seeds - Ohio St, Kentucky, Rhode Island, Gonzaga
6 seeds - Michigan, Houston, Nevada, Florida
* Zags could be a 6 with that weak overall SOS
* Florida has 8/3 Q1-Q2 wins. 6 road/neutral Q1 wins
7 seeds- Arkansas TCU Seton Hall Butler
8 seeds- VTech OU Creighton Texas A&M
9 seeds - Mizzou, NC St, Ariz St, KState
* There is not much separation between these 12 teams.
* Tcu is #26, Cats are 36. But if we win Tuesday, I would have us ahead of them. That's how close it is despite 10 spots.
10 seeds - FSU, Alabama, Providence, Miami
11 seeds - St Bony, St Mary's, USC, Texas, Syracuse, Baylor
Post by: kso_FAN on February 26, 2018, 06:52:14 AM
Post by: DQ12 on February 26, 2018, 08:20:22 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 26, 2018, 08:54:28 AM
Our SOS dropped after playing OU again?
Yes, slightly. Probably has to do with a lot of the other games as much as anything with the RPI mechanics. Every other metric has us in at least the mid 40s.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 26, 2018, 12:26:08 PM
Florida St still gets more love. They project out to a 8 seed on average by BracketMatrix, while Ksu/VTech are 10 seeds. (Lunardi has FSU 7, Ksu/Tech 10)
Record/ Conference=
Ksu 20-9 9-7
VT 20-9 9-7
FSU 19-9 8-8
NonCon SOS/ Overall SOS
Ksu 323 76
VT 325 75
FSU 317 77
Q1 & Q2 Record=
Ksu 3-8/ 6-0
VT 5-5/3-3
FSU 5-5/2-2
Road/Neutral wins vs Q1/Q2 =
Ksu 5 road
VT 4 Road, 1 Neutral
FSU 3 road
Losses vs Q3 =
Ksu 1
VT 1
FSU 2
VTech has the most impressive Q1 wins (at Virginia, UNC, Clemson). That's why I think they are ahead of KState. Fsu has the worst Conference record, the fewest Quality wins away from home, and most Q3 losses.
Post by: sys on February 26, 2018, 12:48:58 PM
Post by: catastrophe on February 26, 2018, 12:53:36 PM
Post by: cat97 on February 26, 2018, 01:13:27 PM
We look to be in pretty good shape but need one more win to seal a bid and two or three will give us a chance at a higher seed.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 26, 2018, 02:35:11 PM
All of our losses (except Tulsa) are Q1 losses. VT had 3, FSU had 2 losses in the Q2 Tier. That's an advantage for us, but I don't think it's a major advantage.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 26, 2018, 07:11:08 PM
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 26, 2018, 08:18:03 PM
Tulsa counts as a home game, but I think they could still end up as a Q2 by the end of the season.
How the hell is that a home game?
Post by: kso_FAN on February 26, 2018, 08:23:53 PM
Tulsa counts as a home game, but I think they could still end up as a Q2 by the end of the season.
How the hell is that a home game?
If the school handles the ticket sales, its a "home game" for that school.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 26, 2018, 08:26:59 PM
Post by: catastrophe on February 26, 2018, 08:36:27 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 26, 2018, 08:38:32 PM
It will probably mean fewer destination “home” games, but should encourage more home-home scheduling with decent schools.
I doubt it. Its easier to get a lot of these games done if you do the neutral home game. Its the nature of scheduling, teams don't do many true home and home series anymore and I don't think it will change.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 26, 2018, 08:59:36 PM
Tulsa 74 RPI
Yes on paper 1 equals Q2 loss, 1 is Q3 loss. The committee isnt gonna treat this game much differently with either scenario. If Tulsa had an RPI of 116, then it would be more harmful. It's not on the Q2-Q3 border.
OU RPI is 31 on ESPN.
Home win over RPI 31 / Home win over RPI 30 .... Little difference ( Q1 vs Q2 win)
Home win over RPI 30 / Home win over RPI 5 .... Bigger difference (same Q1 Tier)
Committee will just see our wins. They will know how good they are.
Home W = 19,31,52,70,97
Road W = 52,62,97,112,118
* Best 5 from each
Post by: MakeItRain on February 26, 2018, 10:30:21 PM
It will probably mean fewer destination “home” games, but should encourage more home-home scheduling with decent schools.
That isn't a new rule
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 27, 2018, 10:28:26 AM
Quote
Bubble Watch:
Should be in
Quote
Kansas State (20-9, 9-7 Big 12)
(BPI: 50 | SOS: 46 | SOR: 30 | RPI: 60)
The Wildcats would likely have seven or even eight at-large teams taken after them in the bracket if the field was announce today. So yes, the loss at Oklahoma was a missed opportunity, but no, it doesn't detract from the fact that oscar Weber's guys are in a good place.
Certainly, the Big 12 gives its members plenty of chances to improve their seed, and perhaps K-State can do just that with remaining games at TCU and at home against Baylor. A win in either contest would earn Kansas State an above-.500 finish in the nation's strongest conference.
Post by: Trim on February 27, 2018, 10:41:49 AM
Tulsa counts as a home game, but I think they could still end up as a Q2 by the end of the season.
How the hell is that a home game?
If the school handles the ticket sales, its a "home game" for that school.
Yep.
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/946804352647393280
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2018, 11:25:43 AM
Post by: catastrophe on February 27, 2018, 10:08:35 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 28, 2018, 12:08:50 AM
Ok, so what has to happen now for the Cats to lock up a non-first four bid?
Beat Baylor. I'd be extremely shocked if that win doesn't guarantee it.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2018, 09:08:49 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Post by: catastrophe on February 28, 2018, 09:20:10 AM
Post by: KanSt43 on February 28, 2018, 09:21:55 AM
Last night didn't even effect us. Hi Marcus!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
In fact, we went from "last 4 byes" to not even on the that list at all. "Safely" in?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2018, 09:27:37 AM
Post by: mocat on February 28, 2018, 10:01:20 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2018, 10:17:58 AM
Post by: CatsNShocks on February 28, 2018, 11:23:56 AM
Last night didn't even effect us. Hi Marcus!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
oscar is going to crap his pants if this happens.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 01, 2018, 01:20:33 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 01, 2018, 10:41:10 PM
Barry would be up to the challenge of guarding Foster. Yes, that Foster who is still in search of NCAA Tourney win #1
Post by: DOD Take 2 on March 01, 2018, 11:25:17 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2018, 12:08:31 AM
Creighton isn't that good. They are 1-6 on road in Q1/Q2 games.actually they are pretty good
Barry would be up to the challenge of guarding Foster. Yes, that Foster who is still in search of NCAA Tourney win #1
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2018, 08:01:59 AM
Post by: wetwillie on March 02, 2018, 08:19:20 AM
Post by: kslim on March 02, 2018, 09:37:53 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on March 02, 2018, 09:51:58 AM
Post by: Joker on March 02, 2018, 10:05:30 AM
Play-in game vs Nebraska with the winner playing Creighton. So much on the line in that scenario.
Huskers beat oscar for their first ever Tourney win. Then Foster stomps the Huskers and carries Creighton to a Natty and is also named tournament MVP.
Post by: kslim on March 02, 2018, 10:06:13 AM
Play-in game vs Nebraska with the winner playing Creighton. So much on the line in that scenario.that would be a ton of fun
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2018, 10:34:58 AM
man i dont know that would put 8 big twelve teams in if it stuck
I think one of Texas, Baylor, or us drops out, but at this point their resume's are all better than the rest IMHO.
Post by: catastrophe on March 02, 2018, 11:16:01 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2018, 12:29:09 PM
If Baylor loses, they still are in the mix for the games in Dayton. With a win Wednesday & Thursday loss in KC, they still have a shot.
A Texas win & Baylor loss (both 8-10) would give Texas a slight edge because of the Q1/Q2 wins. They would have 6/2 to Baylor's 4/3
Post by: meow meow on March 02, 2018, 12:39:39 PM
Play-in game vs Nebraska with the winner playing Creighton. So much on the line in that scenario.
Huskers beat oscar for their first ever Tourney win. Then Foster stomps the Huskers and carries Creighton to a Natty and is also named tournament MVP.
first ever tourney win to make it to the opening round. they join k-state tucknation as the only fans in the country to count a first four win as a tournament victory
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2018, 12:52:55 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2018, 12:58:13 PM
#33-37 - Creighton, ASU, Butler, FSU, OU
#38-42- Kstate, St Bony, USC, Bama, St Mary's
Beat Baylor and I'd be shocked if we fell to #41-#42 much less a Dayton game
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2018, 01:02:50 PM
As of now, IMO here are the last 10 teams in that are not in Dayton...
#33-37 - Creighton, ASU, Butler, FSU, OU
#38-42- Kstate, St Bony, USC, Bama, St Mary's
Beat Baylor and I'd be shocked if we fell to #41-#42 much less a Dayton game
I'm thinking if we beat Baylor, we're likely to move up to a 10.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2018, 01:36:15 PM
As of now, IMO here are the last 10 teams in that are not in Dayton...
#33-37 - Creighton, ASU, Butler, FSU, OU
#38-42- Kstate, St Bony, USC, Bama, St Mary's
Beat Baylor and I'd be shocked if we fell to #41-#42 much less a Dayton game
I'm thinking if we beat Baylor, we're likely to move up to a 10.
I think we are close where we view Ksu at this moment.
A win and we are a 10 (I actually have us as a 10 right now). There is even a chance we could sneak to #36 (last 9 seed)...but with the KC game.... would probably have us as a 9 (win over Tcu) or a 10 (loss to Tcu).
Post by: BackPayne on March 02, 2018, 04:02:32 PM
Post by: kslim on March 02, 2018, 05:05:37 PM
Post by: joaks01 on March 02, 2018, 06:52:11 PM
What seed when we win the Big12 Tournament Trophy?
You’d have to think 6 seed, no?
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2018, 08:41:45 PM
What seed when we win the Big12 Tournament Trophy?
You’d have to think 6 seed, no?
Maybe a 6, probably a 7.
Post by: The Big Train on March 02, 2018, 08:50:04 PM
Post by: BackPayne on March 02, 2018, 09:03:43 PM
Jesus I understand being #1GoCatsFan and stuff but get ahold of yourselves. Winning the Big 12 tournament? :lol:
:ksu:
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 02, 2018, 09:05:22 PM
Jesus I understand being #1GoCatsFan and stuff but get ahold of yourselves. Winning the Big 12 tournament? :lol:
Sounds like exactly the kind of thing oscar would do. Get a 6 see then get absolutely obliterated by the 11 that came out of Dayton
Post by: The Big Train on March 02, 2018, 09:09:04 PM
Jesus I understand being #1GoCatsFan and stuff but get ahold of yourselves. Winning the Big 12 tournament? :lol:
Sounds like exactly the kind of thing oscar would do. Get a 6 see then get absolutely obliterated by the 11 that came out of Dayton
I consider that a VERY successful year. Lock oscar up for another 10 years.
Post by: Spracne on March 03, 2018, 12:45:37 AM
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Post by: Powercat Posse on March 03, 2018, 05:14:30 PM
Q1/Q2 records-
Texas 6-10/2-3
Baylor 4-11/3-2
OSU 5-11/4-2
Sos-
Texas 18
Baylor 17
OSU 63
Q1/Q2 wins (road/neutral)-
Texas 3 road (4-7 overall road Record)
Baylor 1 road 1 neutral (2-9)
Ok St 3 road 1 neutral (3-7)
Post by: sys on March 03, 2018, 05:33:35 PM
Post by: catastrophe on March 03, 2018, 05:40:17 PM
Just a crazy resume. I am surprised they haven't been more in the conversation.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 03, 2018, 07:01:11 PM
i don't see how you could make any legitimate argument for baylor over the cows. these goddamn bracketologists better wake the eff up.
Ya. If you compare the good wins, no doubt Osu has edge.
They both beat Ku/Tech at home
Both have a Q1 neutral win (Creighton/FSU)
Osu won at Ku/WV
Baylor won at Ok St
Plus Osu has 4-3 edge on Q2 wins
I think that outweighs the OOC schedule edge
113 and 282 respectively
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 03, 2018, 11:36:51 PM
As of now, IMO here are the last 10 teams in that are not in Dayton...
#33-37 - Creighton, ASU, Butler, FSU, OU
#38-42- Kstate, St Bony, USC, Bama, St Mary's
Update =
Butler & Creighton had Q1 losses
ASU had Q3 loss. USC q2 loss
Bama Q1 loss
#33-37... OU FSU Creighton Kstate StBony
#38-42... Butler ASU USC St Mary's Bama
Cats #36 (last 9 seed)
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 04, 2018, 12:03:36 AM
Creighton
20-10 10-8
3-8/4-2 (Q1-Q2)
Sos 45
Road/Neutral Q1/Q2 wins - 2
Ksu
21-10 10-8
3-7/6-3 (Q1-Q2)
Sos 76
Road/Neutral Q1/Q2 wins - 5
The Q1 wins (RPI)
CU - 2 Nova ,28 SHall ,38Ucla (neutral)
Ksu - 20 Tcu, 50 at Texas, 59 at Baylor
Post by: bucket on March 04, 2018, 01:07:25 AM
Play-in game vs Nebraska with the winner playing Creighton. So much on the line in that scenario.
I would love a oscar vs Marcus Foster showdown. Assuming the cats beat Nebraska
:love:
Post by: catastrophe on March 04, 2018, 07:27:19 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on March 04, 2018, 07:44:43 AM
Play in game is off the table now. As are Nebraska’s hopes of dancing I think.
The crazy thing is that if I was a Nubb fan, I would much rather be in Dayton than a 10 seed in the tournament.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2018, 09:01:36 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2018, 09:27:08 AM
This Tier thing is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than just looking at rpi and rpi wins. A fine combo of laziness and anachronism.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2018, 09:39:37 AM
Losing to a tier 3 should negate one tier 1 and one tier 2 game, imo.
This Tier thing is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than just looking at rpi and rpi wins. A fine combo of laziness and anachronism.
If you are going to use the RPI, the tier system makes more sense to me. Its based on the same thing, but factoring in location of games seems logical to me.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 04, 2018, 09:56:30 AM
Losing to a tier 3 should negate one tier 1 and one tier 2 game, imo.
This Tier thing is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than just looking at rpi and rpi wins. A fine combo of laziness and anachronism.
If you are going to use the RPI, the tier system makes more sense to me. Its based on the same thing, but factoring in location of games seems logical to me.
My problem with the tier thing would be that it waters down really good wins. A win at home against TCU shouldn't be anywhere near a win @Virginia. I guess you have to draw the line somewhere in trying to simplify the process but I feel like road/neutral top 15 wins should be a tier of their own.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2018, 10:03:09 AM
Rpi = anacronistic
Develop an actual non-stupid computer model (bpi for starters) if you need a tool to crutch on.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2018, 10:37:12 AM
Trying to simplify = lazy
Rpi = anacronistic
Develop an actual non-stupid computer model (bpi for starters) if you need a tool to crutch on.
The good thing is RPI is really only used to factor in the tiers. And to me, simply putting wins in categories of vs 1-50, 51-100, etc. is more lazy than accounting for where games are played like the tier systems do now.
My problem with the tier thing would be that it waters down really good wins. A win at home against TCU shouldn't be anywhere near a win @Virginia. I guess you have to draw the line somewhere in trying to simplify the process but I feel like road/neutral top 15 wins should be a tier of their own.
True, but the old system the top group was 1-50. I think when the committee looks at the individual team sheets, they do account for those that have really good wins like you are saying. In fact, I'd say that's why we are a 10 seed right now instead of an 8, because they look at our resume and see our lack of one of those really good wins. If we swap a road win at Baylor with a home win vs KU, I bet we are an 8 seed in any bracketology right now.
Post by: michigancat on March 04, 2018, 10:46:22 AM
The good thing is RPI is really only used to factor in the tiers.
Except isn't the performance against tiers is a primary tool used to rank/seed teams? So RPI is obviously still one of the most important stats for ranking teams, even if it's not used directly.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2018, 10:54:53 AM
The good thing is RPI is really only used to factor in the tiers.
Except isn't the performance against tiers is a primary tool used to rank/seed teams? So RPI is obviously still one of the most important stats for ranking teams, even if it's not used directly.
True. Indirectly its a primary tool. I do think if you made the tiers from another metric that they wouldn't look that much different.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 04, 2018, 11:13:41 AM
My problem with the tier thing would be that it waters down really good wins. A win at home against TCU shouldn't be anywhere near a win @Virginia. I guess you have to draw the line somewhere in trying to simplify the process but I feel like road/neutral top 15 wins should be a tier of their own.
True, but the old system the top group was 1-50. I think when the committee looks at the individual team sheets, they do account for those that have really good wins like you are saying. In fact, I'd say that's why we are a 10 seed right now instead of an 8, because they look at our resume and see our lack of one of those really good wins. If we swap a road win at Baylor with a home win vs KU, I bet we are an 8 seed in any bracketology right now.
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Absolutely. The wins in the Q1 are looped into one category, but the committee will look at each team and those wins.
Arizona St and Us both have 3 Q1 wins, but they won at Ku, Xavier on neutral court and at Utah. Much better than our 3 wins.
I kind of touched on this a bit earlier. If OU (36 RPI) had an RPI of 30 or 31, they don't downgrade our win vs them from a Q1 win vs a Q2 win. It will show up on a grid or spreadsheet as either a Q1 or Q2 win.... But the committee will just see Win over OU and get us Value for that.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 04, 2018, 11:48:29 AM
St Mary's road wins by Tier:
Q1-1
Q2-1
Q3-3
Q4-5
Road wins vs Q1/Q2 is actually a strength for us. We have 5. Here is a look at the good road wins for teams in FAN's 8-10 seeds above =
Team - Q1/Q2 wins
Mizzou 2/3
Arkansas 1/2
Creighton 0/1
VTech 3/0
Butler 1/0
FSU 3/0
Nc St 2/0
OU 2/0
KState 2/3
Asu 2/0
SM 1/1
St Bony 2/1
So if both teams have 4/5 on Q1/Q2 wins overall. Team A has 5 road Q1-Q2 wins. Team B only has 1. It's gonna be an advantage for Team A. It shows you can get Q1-Q2 wins on the road and not on your own home court
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2018, 12:44:28 PM
Also, valuing November wins in parity with February wins is a large step in the wrong direction.
Post by: sys on March 04, 2018, 01:10:40 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 04, 2018, 01:25:43 PM
osu not being on that list is a complete joke and travesty.
kso_FAN should probably take Nebraska and Penn State off as they have no chance to play themselves in at this point. They both also have worse resumes than OSU, the committee values those quality wins.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 04, 2018, 01:31:19 PM
osu not being on that list is a complete joke and travesty.
kso_FAN should probably take Nebraska and Penn State off as they have no chance to play themselves in at this point. They both also have worse resumes than OSU, the committee values those quality wins.
Yeah, probably should add Ok St & Syracuse and get the Big Ten duo off the grid
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2018, 01:49:15 PM
osu not being on that list is a complete joke and travesty.
kso_FAN should probably take Nebraska and Penn State off as they have no chance to play themselves in at this point. They both also have worse resumes than OSU, the committee values those quality wins.
:lol:
I pondered that, but I went off of updated RPI, kp, and SOR from today. I take bracketmatrix and then tweak it based on the numbers I factor in. I see the case for OSU and wanted to bump them up, but there are too many variables that hurt them right now. Its almost a too little, too late scenario for them at the moment.
And again, the RPI as a team ranking system is really dumb. The RPI as a system to group teams is decent and using any other metric to group teams will get a similar result for tier games.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2018, 02:12:52 PM
Post by: sys on March 04, 2018, 02:28:04 PM
there are too many variables that hurt them right now.
like what? they have 0 tier 3 losses, their tiers 1 and 2 records are comparable to teams considered safely in. the only thing i can see that people are using against them is a poor non con sos, which is simply ridiculous. they played good teams and beat good teams, if they did so more in january and february than november and december that should be a point in their favor, if anything.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2018, 02:29:42 PM
there are too many variables that hurt them right now.
like what? they have 0 tier 3 losses, their tiers 1 and 2 records are comparable to teams considered safely in. the only thing i can see that people are using against them is a poor non con sos, which is simply ridiculous. they played good teams and beat good teams, if they did so more in january and february than november and december that should be a point in their favor, if anything.
True. I know RPI is supposed to be meaningless, but you look at that RPI in the 80s and it kind of jumps out at you. Of course, you also look at the number of quality wins and wonder how the RPI can still be in the 80s.
Post by: sys on March 04, 2018, 02:43:39 PM
Post by: mocat on March 04, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2018, 04:41:52 PM
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Post by: Powercat Posse on March 04, 2018, 09:37:19 PM
I think the conference gets in 9 now. Teams are crumbling
I think we have 7 in right now. If Texas can beat Isu, I think they can avoid being in the Dayton games.
Q1 wins over Bama/Butler plus 5 good wins in B12 (Tech, WV, Tcu, at OU, OU). An SOS of 17 also helps.
If Baylor or Osu don't win their 1st game in KC, I think the chances of making it are pretty low
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 04, 2018, 10:32:21 PM
I think the conference gets in 9 now. Teams are crumbling
I think we have 7 in right now. If Texas can beat Isu, I think they can avoid being in the Dayton games.
Q1 wins over Bama/Butler plus 5 good wins in B12 (Tech, WV, Tcu, at OU, OU). An SOS of 17 also helps.
If Baylor or Osu don't win their 1st game in KC, I think the chances of making it are pretty low
Didn't ESPN's BPI have Baylor as 99% chance to get in if they beat the cats Saturday but if they lost it dropped to like 83%? Seems like a long way to fall from 83% chance of getting in. That same metric also had the cats dropping to 42% chance of they had lost to Baylor so, take that fwiw.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 04, 2018, 10:49:51 PM
Still pretty surprised 12% of them did not have us in. Almost as surprising was St Mary's still ahead of us by the concensus. St Mary's (who I currently have in Dayton) might be out if they at least don't beat 81 RPI Byu tommorrow in WCC semis. 28-4 teams normally don't get left out if their RPI is Top 50. But the 182 SOS and 3 Q1/Q2 wins just stick out.
2016 St Mary's team went 26-5. Had RPI in top 40 with 140 SOS. Also 3 Q1-Q2 wins. They didn't make it. I want to see Big 12 get an 8th team, so I hope Byu can knock off St Mary's
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2018, 11:11:50 PM
Post by: Justwin on March 04, 2018, 11:50:48 PM
What's our highest seed in the matrix?
8 seed.
Post by: 'taterblast on March 05, 2018, 08:38:53 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2018, 08:49:30 AM
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2018, 09:40:17 AM
(https://image.ibb.co/fbXSa7/Bracket_Comparison.png)
Post by: manpow5 on March 05, 2018, 09:55:08 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2018, 10:04:07 AM
how is Missouri an 8 seed? I mean seriously
11 combined tier 1/2 wins is really solid, decent on the road, strong metrics.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 05, 2018, 12:29:49 PM
2) Texas Baylor and the Cows 8-10 with 13 overall loses. Like I mentioned I feel Texas is in the best shape. Any of these 3 teams would have benefited from having 1 more win (so just 12 losses). Ok St had a 1 point loss at Arkansas in a game they led late. They also let Roach make a driving layup with 1 second left in that 65-64 Texas win. Had Osu won either one of those, they would have a 6th Q1 win and their RPI would be in 70-72 range, not 86-88.
Lunardi has Bears in (and not in a Dayton game). I think they need to beat WV or they are likely OUT.
Post by: cfbandyman on March 05, 2018, 12:44:04 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2018, 01:02:42 PM
1) Asu, Usc, Ucla all 21-10 or 20-10. Asu has the fewest Q1/Q2 wins of the 3 teams, but do have the monster wins at Ku and Xavier on a neutral court. Asu with a Q3 loss, USC Q4 loss, Ucla 2 Q3 losses. So similar in their overall resumes
2) Texas Baylor and the Cows 8-10 with 13 overall loses. Like I mentioned I feel Texas is in the best shape. Any of these 3 teams would have benefited from having 1 more win (so just 12 losses). Ok St had a 1 point loss at Arkansas in a game they led late. They also let Roach make a driving layup with 1 second left in that 65-64 Texas win. Had Osu won either one of those, they would have a 6th Q1 win and their RPI would be in 70-72 range, not 86-88.
Lunardi has Bears in (and not in a Dayton game). I think they need to beat WV or they are likely OUT.
Just compare OSU and UT. Their resume's are nearly the same except for the number of Q3/Q4 games, which is what is killing OSU's RPI.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 05, 2018, 02:43:02 PM
1) Asu, Usc, Ucla all 21-10 or 20-10. Asu has the fewest Q1/Q2 wins of the 3 teams, but do have the monster wins at Ku and Xavier on a neutral court. Asu with a Q3 loss, USC Q4 loss, Ucla 2 Q3 losses. So similar in their overall resumes
2) Texas Baylor and the Cows 8-10 with 13 overall loses. Like I mentioned I feel Texas is in the best shape. Any of these 3 teams would have benefited from having 1 more win (so just 12 losses). Ok St had a 1 point loss at Arkansas in a game they led late. They also let Roach make a driving layup with 1 second left in that 65-64 Texas win. Had Osu won either one of those, they would have a 6th Q1 win and their RPI would be in 70-72 range, not 86-88.
Lunardi has Bears in (and not in a Dayton game). I think they need to beat WV or they are likely OUT.
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Just compare OSU and UT. Their resume's are nearly the same except for the number of Q3/Q4 games, which is what is killing OSU's RPI.
For sure. Amazing that it results in 40 spots in the RPI.
Seton Hall #27 (.6013 rating)
Texas # 48 (.5761)
Osu #88 (.5515)
The RPI rating difference is slightly more between 27 & 48, than 48 & 88. That's unfortunate for Osu, but it is what it is.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 05, 2018, 08:10:44 PM
This tier thing is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Post by: pissclams on March 06, 2018, 12:09:15 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 06, 2018, 12:29:41 AM
I don't understand why Mich State isn't a unanimous #1 seed. I really don't get how KU is ahead of them.
This tier thing is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Can't just look at the 4 losses. Yes Sparty having only 3 & 5 on Q1-Q2 wins is a big reason. They also have a 82 SOS
Nova Virginia Xavier Ku Duke all have a top 15 SOS and between 13-18 Q1-Q2 wins
it looks like st. mary’s is going to lose this semifinal to byu by double digits. no way they should be in the tournament if this plays out.
Yep. I think St Mary's is looking like at the NIT
Post by: pissclams on March 06, 2018, 12:51:11 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2018, 06:48:18 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2018, 07:00:32 AM
TCU - 6 seed lock. 3-8 quad 1, 6-2 quad 2, 3-7 on the road. 12-0 vs tiers 3/4. 1-5 vs the top 3 in the Big 12.
KSU - 10 seedish. 3-7 quad 1, 6-3 quad 2. 6-5 on the road. 12-0 vs tiers 3/4. 0-6 vs the top 3 in the Big 12.
But a 40 spot difference in the RPI and 4 seed lines between these 2 teams.
Post by: renocat on March 06, 2018, 07:06:03 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2018, 07:16:53 AM
Fan, in these lesser known conferences, are there any league tournament upsets that are skewing the predicted bracket. I see some predictions leaving out KSU. How many B12 tourny games should we win. Is a 10 seed bad?
I'd say a 10 seed is better than an 8/9, but you want to be as highly seeded as possible.
There could be upsets in 1 or 2 leagues that steal a bid. For example, Middle Tennessee could get an at large if someone else wins their conference tournament. I'm honestly not that worried after really looking at the teams around us an below us. Our wins and road record are better than most. I don't believe OOC SOS will be that high of a factor to knock us out, especially when you see that we've played the same number or more Tier 1/2 games as anyone else in the 8-11 seed range.
Post by: felix rex on March 06, 2018, 07:43:44 AM
Fan, in these lesser known conferences, are there any league tournament upsets that are skewing the predicted bracket. I see some predictions leaving out KSU. How many B12 tourny games should we win. Is a 10 seed bad?
I'd say a 10 seed is better than an 8/9, but you want to be as highly seeded as possible.
There could be upsets in 1 or 2 leagues that steal a bid. For example, Middle Tennessee could get an at large if someone else wins their conference tournament. I'm honestly not that worried after really looking at the teams around us an below us. Our wins and road record are better than most. I don't believe OOC SOS will be that high of a factor to knock us out, especially when you see that we've played the same number or more Tier 1/2 games as anyone else in the 8-11 seed range.
Another reason to feel confident is that there is no track record of us getting screwed so we shouldn't even worry about it I don't know why I'm bringing it up 20/10/4 169/170 #RIPHuggs
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2018, 07:49:47 AM
Another reason to feel confident is that there is no track record of us getting screwed so we shouldn't even worry about it I don't know why I'm bringing it up 20/10/4 169/170 #RIPHuggs
Tech deserved it over us. Our resume just wasn't that good.
KSU 2007 quality wins:
@ 25 UT
Neutral 39 USC
@ 63 Mizzou
58 OU
63 Mizzou
Neutral 71 Tech
82 NU
Tech 2007 quality wins:
@ 7 aTm
5 KU
7 aTm
@ 42 Arkansas
@ 57 KSU
58 OU
74 OSU
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2018, 08:41:45 AM
I don't understand why Mich State isn't a unanimous #1 seed. I really don't get how KU is ahead of them.
This tier thing is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Can't just look at the 4 losses. Yes Sparty having only 3 & 5 on Q1-Q2 wins is a big reason. They also have a 82 SOS
Nova Virginia Xavier Ku Duke all have a top 15 SOS and between 13-18 Q1-Q2 wins
So what? MSU is clearly better than KU and Xavier. They played a solid ooc and steamrolled the big 10.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2018, 08:46:10 AM
Post by: sys on March 06, 2018, 09:43:34 AM
St Mary's best wins are Gonzaga, New Mexico State, and BYU. Losses to Washington State and Georgia in the OOC. They should be out.
anyone that loses to washington state and georgia has no place in the tourney. move the cows up a spot.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 06, 2018, 11:29:35 AM
Back to our fun comparison with Jaime's TCU Horned Frogs....
TCU - 6 seed lock. 3-8 quad 1, 6-2 quad 2, 3-7 on the road. 12-0 vs tiers 3/4. 1-5 vs the top 3 in the Big 12.
KSU - 10 seedish. 3-7 quad 1, 6-3 quad 2. 6-5 on the road. 12-0 vs tiers 3/4. 0-6 vs the top 3 in the Big 12.
But a 40 spot difference in the RPI and 4 seed lines between these 2 teams.
The Matrix has always liked Tcu for whatever reason. There should not be 4 seeds difference between us and them.
First, Tcu doesn't project out to be a 6 seed IMO. More like a 7 seed. aTm and Miami are just 2 of the teams that are behind Tcu that should not be.
Kstate should grade out as a 9 seed. Butler for sure and probably Creighton should be below us. St Mary's and St Bony are also ahead of us right now on the Bracket Matrix concensus
So Tcu should be overall #25-26 (they are #23 on Matrix). Kstate should be #35 (#39 on Matrix)
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 06, 2018, 11:37:23 AM
Butler & Creighton both 3/4
Butler has 1 Q3 loss. Other 2 teams don't.
Butler & Creighton only have 1 road win vs the 2 Tiers that count. Kstate has 5 vs the Q1-Q2
Sos - Butler 26 CU 45 Ksu 77. So Butler has the Strongest SOS but they also have 12 losses. Ksu and Cu have 10.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2018, 11:42:41 AM
Kstate has 3/6 on the Q1-Q2 wins.
Butler & Creighton both 3/4
Butler has 1 Q3 loss. Other 2 teams don't.
Butler & Creighton only have 1 road win vs the 2 Tiers that count. Kstate has 5 vs the Q1-Q2
Sos - Butler 26 CU 45 Ksu 77. So Butler has the Strongest SOS but they also have 12 losses. Ksu and Cu have 10.
Yeah, well Mich State is 3/8 on Q1/Q2 (per you), yet they are a #2.....
Counting tier wins is a stupid and lazy way to do this.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 06, 2018, 12:06:32 PM
Sorry, I can't make you happy FSD. I actually have them as a 3 seed (#10 overall). I do think they are a top 4-5 team on eye test, but seeding isn't about eye tests.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 06, 2018, 12:37:42 PM
Ark-
24-9
14-7 counting SEC tourney
3/7 on Q1-Q2 wins
Sos 46
1 Q3 & 1 Q4 loss
SC-
21-10
12-7 counting SEC tourney
3/5 on Q1-Q2
Sos 42
1 Q3 loss
Frank got overall #26 (7 seed). Arkansas got #31 (8 seed). I would have thought they would been switched.
We didn't use this Q1-Q2 -Q3-Q4 stuff last year, but I bet committee way of figuring out things was similar to the way it is this year
Post by: mocat on March 06, 2018, 12:44:00 PM
Back to our fun comparison with Jaime's TCU Horned Frogs....
TCU - 6 seed lock. 3-8 quad 1, 6-2 quad 2, 3-7 on the road. 12-0 vs tiers 3/4. 1-5 vs the top 3 in the Big 12.
KSU - 10 seedish. 3-7 quad 1, 6-3 quad 2. 6-5 on the road. 12-0 vs tiers 3/4. 0-6 vs the top 3 in the Big 12.
But a 40 spot difference in the RPI and 4 seed lines between these 2 teams.
the 40 spot difference in RPI has nothing to do with quad/tier/away records. TCU has 12 top 100 wins, KSU has 9. TCU's SOS is #7, KSU's is #77.
however, based on the quad/tier/away records, there is no way they should be 4 seeds better. those are VERY similar resumes, as far as the seeding procedure is concerned.
the committee must factor NCSOS stronger than we all think (TCU 42, KSU 326)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2018, 12:57:19 PM
Counting tier wins is a stupid and lazy way to do this.
That may be, but when I look at it I try to use the same criteria as the committee to see where we are compared to the field. Doesn't matter if I like it or not.
the 40 spot difference in RPI has nothing to do with quad/tier/away records. TCU has 12 top 100 wins, KSU has 9. TCU's SOS is #7, KSU's is #77.
however, based on the quad/tier/away records, there is no way they should be 4 seeds better. those are VERY similar resumes, as far as the seeding procedure is concerned.
the committee must factor NCSOS stronger than we all think (TCU 42, KSU 326)
Yes they are, and that is the criteria the committee is talking about.
As to point 2, we don't know that for sure, but we do know that the bracketologists do.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2018, 01:06:57 PM
Actually Sparty is 3/5 on Q1-Q2 (8 total)
Sorry, I can't make you happy FSD. I actually have them as a 3 seed (#10 overall). I do think they are a top 4-5 team on eye test, but seeding isn't about eye tests.
Check your eyes, bro.
Post by: Joker on March 06, 2018, 01:38:44 PM
Counting tier wins is a stupid and lazy way to do this.
That may be, but when I look at it I try to use the same criteria as the committee to see where we are compared to the field. Doesn't matter if I like it or not.the 40 spot difference in RPI has nothing to do with quad/tier/away records. TCU has 12 top 100 wins, KSU has 9. TCU's SOS is #7, KSU's is #77.
however, based on the quad/tier/away records, there is no way they should be 4 seeds better. those are VERY similar resumes, as far as the seeding procedure is concerned.
the committee must factor NCSOS stronger than we all think (TCU 42, KSU 326)
Yes they are, and that is the criteria the committee is talking about.
As to point 2, we don't know that for sure, but we do know that the bracketologists do.
Yeah, it's no coincidence that Gene has highlighted the non con as a needed improvement going forward.
Post by: pissclams on March 06, 2018, 02:36:52 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2018, 05:04:01 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 06, 2018, 08:17:56 PM
Another reason to feel confident is that there is no track record of us getting screwed so we shouldn't even worry about it I don't know why I'm bringing it up 20/10/4 169/170 #RIPHuggs
Tech deserved it over us. Our resume just wasn't that good.
KSU 2007 quality wins:
@ 25 UT
Neutral 39 USC
@ 63 Mizzou
58 OU
63 Mizzou
Neutral 71 Tech
82 NU
Tech 2007 quality wins:
@ 7 aTm
5 KU
7 aTm
@ 42 Arkansas
@ 57 KSU
58 OU
74 OSU
Why settle for last at-large when first (to get left out) is available?
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 06, 2018, 09:11:38 PM
10 teams below. 8 spots still not 100% secured IMO. Group A teams are in better shape.
Group A-
Texas
Arizona St
USC
Ucla
Group B-
Marquette
Alabama
Providence
Baylor
Syracuse
Ok St
St Mary's and Louisville are 2 teams I thought have been over seeded for several weeks by the Bracket Matrix. Neither are in group B. Louisville winning their 8/9 matchup won't be enough. I feel they need to also beat Virginia.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 07, 2018, 09:22:45 AM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-selection-committee-leader-explains-why-even-easy-wins-matter/
Post by: sys on March 07, 2018, 09:28:53 AM
Post by: catastrophe on March 07, 2018, 10:36:40 AM
I certainly feel like K-State is a lock for a bye with some his feelings about rewarding teams who win the games they’re supposed to.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 07, 2018, 10:42:21 AM
It’s a fair critique, but I think if he had the chance to clarify he’d say he doesn’t mean that discounts their win, but that he just doesn’t view it equally with a win against the same team if they held a comfortable lead the entire game for example.
I certainly feel like K-State is a lock for a bye with some his feelings about rewarding teams who win the games they’re supposed to.
Yeah, most of what he said fairs well for K-State. We lack the big win vs a top 20 team (obviously) that he mentioned, but everything else was good for us considering our resume. For example, they would sort of discount our worst loss to Tulsa based on an unusually poor 3PT shooting night.
Post by: sys on March 07, 2018, 10:55:37 AM
he just doesn’t view it equally with a win against the same team if they held a comfortable lead the entire game for example.
it should be viewed equally. the achievement is the same. as i've argued before, i don't think it is justifiable to for reviewers to try to judge the quality of team, only of a team's achievements.
Post by: catastrophe on March 07, 2018, 11:21:01 AM
Post by: sys on March 07, 2018, 12:19:55 PM
Post by: HELLHAMMER on March 07, 2018, 12:20:15 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 07, 2018, 01:25:40 PM
KState is always going to be underseeded. Hell, the Cats could go 25-5 and win the league next year then get a #2 seed. It's partially because no one will take Weber seriously because he sounds like Marge Simpson when talking.
Another person trying to put some of the fault on Weber, when he has nothing to do with it.
For the most part, Ksu has got seeded where I thought they would. Last year, 2014, 2010, 2012 were exactly where I thought. Beasley's year I thought we deserved better than a 11. Pullen's senior year I thought we would get a 6 and got a 5. McGruder's senior year, I thought we had a shot at a 3, but got a 4
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 07, 2018, 02:55:05 PM
i like most of his thinking, but not his emphasis on subjective, almost aesthetic judgements and modifiers of a team's achievements. certainly they should not over-emphasize a single game, but the idea of almost discounting a team's best win because they hit a lot of threes or whatever is simply inappropriate.
Agreed. Although something like injuries should be accounted for, e.g., beating Notre Dame in Nov (like MSU did) when they were awesome should be a tier1 compared to beating the shell of notre dame in Jan (tier 2 or 3).
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 07, 2018, 02:56:16 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on March 07, 2018, 03:21:22 PM
those seeds were about selling ticketsKState is always going to be underseeded. Hell, the Cats could go 25-5 and win the league next year then get a #2 seed. It's partially because no one will take Weber seriously because he sounds like Marge Simpson when talking.
Another person trying to put some of the fault on Weber, when he has nothing to do with it.
For the most part, Ksu has got seeded where I thought they would. Last year, 2014, 2010, 2012 were exactly where I thought. Beasley's year I thought we deserved better than a 11. Pullen's senior year I thought we would get a 6 and got a 5. McGruder's senior year, I thought we had a shot at a 3, but got a 4
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 07, 2018, 03:42:46 PM
Matrix had them #34 #35 (and Cats #38)
I had them 1 and 2 spots ahead of us
Beat Tcu and I think it's almost a given we are in 8 vs 9 game at worst
Post by: cfbandyman on March 07, 2018, 03:48:21 PM
FSU lost. NC st Lost.
Matrix had them #34 #35 (and Cats #38)
I had them 1 and 2 spots ahead of us
Beat Tcu and I think it's almost a given we are in 8 vs 9 game at worst
I'd rather be a 10, or win a bunch and get to a 7. I don't want anything with a 8/9 game.
Post by: KITNfury on March 07, 2018, 03:50:57 PM
This is why I barely care about our seed right now. A 7 vs a 10 seed? Meh, theoretically we play an easier opponent as a 7, but really we all know it's more about matchups than seed when we're talking about those seeds. And yes, would rather be a 10 than an 8 or 9. With 6 out of reach, it's hard to care too much.FSU lost. NC st Lost.
Matrix had them #34 #35 (and Cats #38)
I had them 1 and 2 spots ahead of us
Beat Tcu and I think it's almost a given we are in 8 vs 9 game at worst
I'd rather be a 10, or win a bunch and get to a 7. I don't want anything with a 8/9 game.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 07, 2018, 04:39:36 PM
What I really don't want to happen is for us to lose to TCU and end up being a 11 seed (#41-42). Now we'd still avoid the Dayton games (#43-46). I personally think a 10 seed (#37-40) is the worst we will do, but a 11 seed could happen.
Post by: AppleJack on March 07, 2018, 04:42:04 PM
Post by: 8manpick on March 07, 2018, 05:08:03 PM
ASU just lost to Colorado :dunno:Wasn't barely losing to them our best accomplishment in the non-con?
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 07, 2018, 05:17:05 PM
ASU just lost to Colorado :dunno:Wasn't barely losing to them our best accomplishment in the non-con?
They aren't the same team they we faced or beat Xavier & Ku. They are trending the wrong way (lost 5 of 6)
Post by: 8manpick on March 07, 2018, 05:21:34 PM
I mean, I know what you are saying, but they are as much the same team as anyone else is from the beginning to the end of a season. What is the representative sample size for a given team for a comparison to have any meaning?ASU just lost to Colorado :dunno:Wasn't barely losing to them our best accomplishment in the non-con?
They aren't the same team they we faced or beat Xavier & Ku. They are trending the wrong way (lost 5 of 6)
SOS, RPI, etc have decided that the sample size is the season. :dunno:
Post by: cfbandyman on March 07, 2018, 05:38:25 PM
This is why I barely care about our seed right now. A 7 vs a 10 seed? Meh, theoretically we play an easier opponent as a 7, but really we all know it's more about matchups than seed when we're talking about those seeds. And yes, would rather be a 10 than an 8 or 9. With 6 out of reach, it's hard to care too much.FSU lost. NC st Lost.
Matrix had them #34 #35 (and Cats #38)
I had them 1 and 2 spots ahead of us
Beat Tcu and I think it's almost a given we are in 8 vs 9 game at worst
I'd rather be a 10, or win a bunch and get to a 7. I don't want anything with a 8/9 game.
I think you're dancing around what I am getting at, but to me it's all about the 2nd round matchup vs the 2/15 seed than it is vs the 1 seed. I know 1's aren't infallible once you get to that second round, and it's also kinda lolers to think about the next matchup when oscar has a real hard time making it to the next round, but 2 seeds IMO are more vulnerable that 1's, and they do also seem to have a 15 upset a 2 ever other tourny or so, so you got a chance against a more beatable team, and then the potential of playing a 15 anyways. You never have that in the 8/9 slot. Plus, you got more of that shot of having a FF Kentucky-like team from that level in that game.
If you are going to be a lower seed, the 7/10, or if you can get to a 6, are the ideal. I dislike 8/9's.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 07, 2018, 06:04:19 PM
Recent history, last 8 years-
1 seed lost in 2nd Rd 6x
2 seed lost in 2nd Rd 10x
2 seed lost to 15 in 1st Rd 3x
So yes, 8/9 has been less ideal. So i see what your line of reasoning is. I don't want to see 1 seeds Nova or Virginia. At the same time Duke and Cincy as 2 seeds are not to my liking at all.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 07, 2018, 07:27:39 PM
those seeds were about selling ticketsKState is always going to be underseeded. Hell, the Cats could go 25-5 and win the league next year then get a #2 seed. It's partially because no one will take Weber seriously because he sounds like Marge Simpson when talking.
Another person trying to put some of the fault on Weber, when he has nothing to do with it.
For the most part, Ksu has got seeded where I thought they would. Last year, 2014, 2010, 2012 were exactly where I thought. Beasley's year I thought we deserved better than a 11. Pullen's senior year I thought we would get a 6 and got a 5. McGruder's senior year, I thought we had a shot at a 3, but got a 4
Curious conspiracy theory, Alex Jones. KU was at both of those pod sites.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2018, 07:44:12 PM
What a weird team. They were so hot in the non-con and then crap the bed in a bad P5 conference. Are they filled with FR? Maybe they didn't have the legs or something.I mean, I know what you are saying, but they are as much the same team as anyone else is from the beginning to the end of a season. What is the representative sample size for a given team for a comparison to have any meaning?ASU just lost to Colorado :dunno:Wasn't barely losing to them our best accomplishment in the non-con?
They aren't the same team they we faced or beat Xavier & Ku. They are trending the wrong way (lost 5 of 6)
SOS, RPI, etc have decided that the sample size is the season. :dunno:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 07, 2018, 07:46:09 PM
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Post by: KITNfury on March 07, 2018, 08:53:44 PM
I was 100% agreeing with your earlier post.This is why I barely care about our seed right now. A 7 vs a 10 seed? Meh, theoretically we play an easier opponent as a 7, but really we all know it's more about matchups than seed when we're talking about those seeds. And yes, would rather be a 10 than an 8 or 9. With 6 out of reach, it's hard to care too much.FSU lost. NC st Lost.
Matrix had them #34 #35 (and Cats #38)
I had them 1 and 2 spots ahead of us
Beat Tcu and I think it's almost a given we are in 8 vs 9 game at worst
I'd rather be a 10, or win a bunch and get to a 7. I don't want anything with a 8/9 game.
I think you're dancing around what I am getting at, but to me it's all about the 2nd round matchup vs the 2/15 seed than it is vs the 1 seed. I know 1's aren't infallible once you get to that second round, and it's also kinda lolers to think about the next matchup when oscar has a real hard time making it to the next round, but 2 seeds IMO are more vulnerable that 1's, and they do also seem to have a 15 upset a 2 ever other tourny or so, so you got a chance against a more beatable team, and then the potential of playing a 15 anyways. You never have that in the 8/9 slot. Plus, you got more of that shot of having a FF Kentucky-like team from that level in that game.
If you are going to be a lower seed, the 7/10, or if you can get to a 6, are the ideal. I dislike 8/9's.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 07, 2018, 09:07:43 PM
I would love to match their non-con wins vs other teams tho. 2 wins vs possible 1 seeds and us. Not sure who else they beat until they finally lost in conference.
They beat Xavier KState St John's on neutral court. Won at Ku. 12-0 non con. They went 3-10 in Q1/Q2 games vs P12 teams.
I give their Ku Xavier wins more weight than normal Q1 wins because they were away from home. So instead of 3/4 on Q1-Q2 wins, I really see it as 4/4.
Post by: AppleJack on March 07, 2018, 09:08:45 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 07, 2018, 09:53:16 PM
VT Ou NCSt and FSU all lost.
All Q2 losses, except Q1 for Noles.
These were #30,33,34,35 on the Matrix
Post by: catastrophe on March 08, 2018, 12:05:53 AM
I do, however, like that the Big 12 is trending to a 9 team berth and that the conference currently has 4 bubble teams, none of which are K-State.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2018, 08:53:59 AM
Post by: kslim on March 08, 2018, 09:08:29 AM
One thing to bear in mind regarding seeding is that with the Big 12 getting as many teams as we're going to get, with the tournament profiles so close, there's going to be some weird seeding. Some seed lines will deviate a couple of lines from where they're projected to make the field work with all of the bracketing rules in place.the fact that they are selecting the teams and then seeding them/building the bracket on sunday is going to be very strange.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 08, 2018, 09:29:45 AM
I'm kinda excited for that. Sounds kinda fun.One thing to bear in mind regarding seeding is that with the Big 12 getting as many teams as we're going to get, with the tournament profiles so close, there's going to be some weird seeding. Some seed lines will deviate a couple of lines from where they're projected to make the field work with all of the bracketing rules in place.the fact that they are selecting the teams and then seeding them/building the bracket on sunday is going to be very strange.
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2018, 09:30:57 AM
One thing to bear in mind regarding seeding is that with the Big 12 getting as many teams as we're going to get, with the tournament profiles so close, there's going to be some weird seeding. Some seed lines will deviate a couple of lines from where they're projected to make the field work with all of the bracketing rules in place.the fact that they are selecting the teams and then seeding them/building the bracket on sunday is going to be very strange.
wait they are going to announce the whole field first, and then later announce where each school is going to be seeded?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 08, 2018, 09:36:11 AM
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2018, 12:12:05 PM
For the sake of transparency, and mega ratings, the NCAA should live stream the selection committee's full deliberation process.
I would love all of that crap. I'd like for them to finally admit too that they look at bracketology's to make their job easier.
They definitely don't look at bracket projections. The process is pretty transparent and that's why it's relatively easy to project the field. They invite media to do a mock process within the year using.the actual metrics on the team sheets. Seeding would be the only thing remotely worth watching and that process takes three to four days, that would be pretty dry to watch on Facebook live or YouTube.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2018, 02:00:03 PM
Post by: Joker on March 08, 2018, 02:04:19 PM
For the sake of transparency, and mega ratings, the NCAA should live stream the selection committee's full deliberation process.I would love all of that crap. I'd like for them to finally admit too that they look at bracketology's to make their job easier.
They definitely don't look at bracket projections. The process is pretty transparent and that's why it's relatively easy to project the field. They invite media to do a mock process within the year using.the actual metrics on the team sheets. Seeding would be the only thing remotely worth watching and that process takes three to four days, that would be pretty dry to watch on Facebook live or YouTube.
I'm mostly looking for some reality TV drama and the aftermath when bubble teams hear why they didn't make it. Maybe it would just be a room full of boring people crunching numbers and politely agreeing with each other though.
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I enjoyed this. :D
Post by: kslim on March 08, 2018, 03:44:04 PM
Interesting that OU is considered possible a last 4 in, and OSU is considered a 1st 4 out. How is that even close to justifiable?osu is going to move up no matter what. its all dependent on who else loses today. ie notre dame, ucla, texas, marquette. i think louisville is out but thats just my opinion
Post by: meow meow on March 08, 2018, 03:54:22 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 08, 2018, 04:41:37 PM
Ou VT FSU NcSt Creighton Mizzou all lost
Seton Hall, Arkansas, Rhode Island haven't played yet .
7 seed is there for the taken if we beat KU
Post by: catastrophe on March 08, 2018, 05:44:46 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2018, 09:29:28 PM
I've decided I don't like the new selection show format since I really like the anticipation that builds when you go through the brackets. Like last year, I perked up every time they announced the 10-12 seeds. With the cats safely off the bubble it doesn't make much of a difference this year, but I still think it robs the event of a little excitement.
This is better for the actual teams, they shouldn't be sitting around for 90 minutes waiting to hear if their hearts have been broken or not. What they should do is release those at large names not alphabetically but in order of the s curve. That would keep the anticipation of who without the 90 minute wait.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2018, 09:35:05 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 09, 2018, 09:07:50 AM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 09, 2018, 09:10:10 AM
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Post by: meow meow on March 09, 2018, 09:15:21 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 09, 2018, 09:16:18 AM
an 8/9 vs mizzou would be funWe would eff those guys up so hard.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 09, 2018, 09:18:31 AM
an 8/9 vs mizzou would be fun
If I had to predict, this is what I would go with.
Post by: BostonPancake on March 09, 2018, 09:22:02 AM
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2018, 10:19:59 PM
^MTSU is going to take an at-large spot too
With one quadrant 1 win that happened the first day of the season? No.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 10, 2018, 01:42:49 AM
7 & 8 seeds (#25-32)
Arkansas - TCU - Nevada - Seton Hall
Mizzou - Rhode Island - VaTech - KState
9 & 10 seeds (#33-40)
St Bony - Providence - USC -Bama
Butler- NCSt - OU - FSU
11 seed & Last 4 (41-45)
Creighton
Ucla - Texas - Ariz St - Marquette
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 10, 2018, 08:07:21 AM
Post by: catastrophe on March 10, 2018, 09:12:25 AM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 10, 2018, 10:45:17 AM
Aren't you missing an 11 seed?
Yeah. Nevada lost and will now get an At-large bid(Mt West champ probably gets a 12 now). The 11 seed that I didn't put down would probably go to Loyola-Chicago who won the Mo-Valley.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 10, 2018, 07:23:31 PM
8 KState vs 9 St Bony
West region. In Detroit.
1 Xavier looming
Post by: The Big Train on March 10, 2018, 09:06:10 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 09:36:59 PM
Point me to the thread that it’s talked about. Nigel Johnson is playing significant minutes for the number 1 team in the country.
About 10 mpg since returning from suspension.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 10, 2018, 09:45:03 PM
UNC Duke and Cincy are all likely 2s and not easy teams. So Xavier or 2 seed Purdue I'm cool with.
Xavier can score the ball, but in their 18 BEast games they only outshot Opponents 54.4 to 54.2 eFG. They had a slim positive TO difference. One area they were good was FTR.... they made about 7 more FTs a game.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2018, 12:45:23 AM
#1-12
Virginia Nova Ku Xavier
UNC Duke Purdue Cincy
Tenn Sparty Mich WV
#13-24
Auburn Arizona WSU TTech
UK Clemson Zags OhioSt
Houston Fla aTm Miami
#25-36
Arkansas TCU Nevada RIU
Mizzou SHall VTech Kstate
Providence StBony Bama NCSt
#37-46
Butler USC OU FSU
Last 4 - Creighton/Ucla Texas/ASU
Loyola-Chicago, SDSU
* Davidson did upset RIU. Bubble spot lost. Sorry Marquette.
Post by: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 12:18:06 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2018, 12:23:35 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYBZi1PVMAAvHjf.jpg:large)
So anyone know how they’re going to announce the field tonight? By conference, alphabetically, or by actual seed order?
1st, the show is on TBS, not CBS at 5 PM (central) tonight.
2nd, they are going to announce all 68 teams in the field first, then brackets/seeding/regions.
Post by: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 12:30:02 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2018, 12:34:26 PM
I knew about the new two step thing, just curious how exactly they’re going to announce the field.
1-68 alphabetically.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2018, 01:03:47 PM
I knew about the new two step thing, just curious how exactly they’re going to announce the field.
1-68 alphabetically.
You sure? I thought they were only announcing the at larges alphabetically.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2018, 01:13:29 PM
I knew about the new two step thing, just curious how exactly they’re going to announce the field.
1-68 alphabetically.
You sure? I thought they were only announcing the at larges alphabetically.
Yes, at least that's how I'm reading this.
Quote
CBS Sports and Turner Sports announced on Tuesday a format tweak for the Selection Show, which will air Sunday, March 11, at 6 p.m. ET. The show will be broadcast with a live studio audience, and every team in the field -- all 68 -- will be revealed within the first 10 minutes of the start of the show.
After the 68 teams are known, the bracket matchups will be released over the course of 30 minutes.
"The Selection Show will begin with the announcement of all 68 tournament teams, followed by the release of the brackets and match-ups, with analysis, discussion, interviews and reactions from teams as they find out if they made the 'Dance,' along with their region, seeding and opponent," according to the press release from CBS Sports and Turner Sports. "Hosts Ernie Johnson and Greg Gumbel will be joined by analysts Clark Kellogg, Charles Barkley, Seth Davis and Kenny Smith in Atlanta. Selection Committee Chair oscar Rasmussen will also join Adam Zucker from CBS Studios in New York."
This means the revamped Selection Show will eventually provide two reveals. First, teams find out if they're in. Once all the schools who made it are known, then the show will peel back on the regions and unsheathe the brackets.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-selection-sunday-revamps-format-to-reveal-all-68-teams-before-bracket/
Post by: Pete on March 11, 2018, 01:15:53 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 01:17:48 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2018, 01:18:53 PM
Sounds fun to me. :dunno:
I will enjoy it as I have this season.
Post by: Pete on March 11, 2018, 01:21:22 PM
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Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
So, uh, we’re like for sure gonna make it right?
In spite of what Seth Davis says, yes.
This is from the chair of the NCAA committee:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYB1D8VVAAAZ_mk.jpg:large)
K-State is very safe given his criteria here and in this article about selection.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-chairman-defends-new-quadrant-system-for-building-bracket/
Post by: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 01:58:33 PM
Post by: Trim on March 11, 2018, 02:05:58 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2018, 02:12:03 PM
Atlantic 10
Field is now set
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2018, 02:33:06 PM
Stolen bid alert
Atlantic 10
Field is now set
Yep. SDSU and Davidson are unexpected entries to the Field. 2 bubble spots no longer there
I will be somewhat surprised if OU Creighton Texas Ucla don't make it. Ariz St wouldn't shock me at all if they don't make it.
Most people have Creighton in the 8 Vs 9 game. I just don't think they belong there. They ended with this....
20-11 overall
Q1 2-9 record
Q2 5-2 record
Q3/Q4 13-0 record
SOS 51
1-7 on road vs Q1/Q2
1-2 on neutral vs Q1/Q2
Post by: Pete on March 11, 2018, 02:43:11 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2018, 03:24:30 PM
Do they officially avoid conference matchups for the first two rounds or is that a myth?
First round yes. Its possible (not likely) for two conference teams to meet in the 2nd round now, but that's more for these bigger leagues in case they would get 10 teams or something in. The Big 12 will get 6-7, so I don't think it will be a factor.
Post by: Pete on March 11, 2018, 03:27:12 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 11, 2018, 03:29:12 PM
What about the likelihood of a an 8/9 and a 1 from the same conference?
Won't happen this year and I think the committee would go out of their way to avoid it. The most in from any league is likely 8 from the SEC and ACC.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2018, 04:14:32 PM
Now present day, Even if a conference has 8 or less teams, there is a chance two teams from the same conference could be in the same half of a region. Most times when this happens, it usually are 2 teams that are unlikely to meet up according to their seed. For example a 6 seed and a 10 seed. Both are in the lower half of a region, but those seeds would only meet in the Sweet 16. Odds are low that both a 6 and 10 seed win 2 games and matchup
Now last year, the Big 12 had 6 teams made it. They put 1 seed Ku and 5 seed Iowa St in the upper half in the same region (KC regional). This was a little surprising because a 1 and 5 could easily matchup in the Sweet 16
The only time 2 conference foes met in the Rd of 32 was when the Big East got 11 teams in (2011). 3 seed Syracuse and 11 seed Marquette played in the 2nd rd.
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Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2018, 05:18:09 PM
USC
Ok St
Baylor
Marquette
ND
Louisville
St Mary's
Middle Tennessee
Syracuse got in. Asu OU and Texas did too
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creighton, whom i have extensively scouted this season, is going to roll us
they beat no one away from their home court. St Johns and then Ucla on a neutral court
3-6 vs Seton Hall, Providence, Butler, Marquette
The Flush says bring it on
Post by: mocat on March 11, 2018, 05:47:07 PM
creighton, whom i have extensively scouted this season, is going to roll us
they beat no one away from their home court. St Johns and then Ucla on a neutral court
3-6 vs Seton Hall, Providence, Butler, Marquette
The Flush says bring it on
one :eye:
Post by: Trim on March 11, 2018, 05:50:11 PM
holy crap I have a work trip in Charlotte Friday
Give my best to Marcus.
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Post by: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 06:00:13 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 06:03:17 PM
creighton, whom i have extensively scouted this season, is going to roll us
they beat no one away from their home court. St Johns and then Ucla on a neutral court
3-6 vs Seton Hall, Providence, Butler, Marquette
The Flush says bring it on
now would be a good time for you to look at our road record
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2018, 06:05:04 PM
People losing their crap about Syracuse, AGAIN, but the most egregious thing Rasmussen said was that Notre Dame was the first team out? WTF? They lost to freaking Indiana and Ball State with Bonzie Colson in the damn lineup.
They were 3-3 vs Q1/Q2, and had 2 Q3 losses with a healthy Bonzie. That's why I didn't think they belonged. Without him, 4-8 vs Q1/Q2
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2018, 06:06:28 PM
I thought ND deserved it over Cuse personally. Also definitely fair to put Baylor on the other side of the cut line, but I feel that OSU had at least as good a claim as ASU and they weren’t even mentioned.
OSU's RPI is down to 88, the only way they were getting in is if they completely ignored the metric the last year it's exclusively going to be used.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2018, 06:14:43 PM
creighton, whom i have extensively scouted this season, is going to roll us
they beat no one away from their home court. St Johns and then Ucla on a neutral court
3-6 vs Seton Hall, Providence, Butler, Marquette
The Flush says bring it on
now would be a good time for you to look at our road record
We won at Baylor, Texas and OKSt. Beat Tcu on a neutral court. At Vandy was also a Q2 road win
Yes we went winless vs the Very top teams but We went 9-2 overall vs Tcu/OU/Texas/Baylor/OkSt.
Creighton did beat Nova once (props to them) but 1-4 overall vs top teams Nova Xavier and Gonzaga
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Post by: bucket on March 11, 2018, 06:31:27 PM
Intrust Bank Arena (Wichita, Kansas) -- Tickets
(1) Kansas Wildcats vs. (16) Pennsylvania Quakers
We're a one seed!
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2018, 06:32:44 PM
Final Projections--
#1-12
Virginia Nova Ku Xavier
UNC Duke Purdue Cincy
Tenn Sparty Mich WV
#13-24
Auburn Arizona WSU TTech
UK Clemson Zags OhioSt
Houston Fla aTm Miami
#25-36
Arkansas TCU Nevada RIU
Mizzou SHall VTech Kstate
Providence StBony Bama NCSt
#37-46
Butler USC OU FSU
Last 4 - Creighton/Ucla Texas/ASU
Loyola-Chicago, SDSU
* Davidson did upset RIU. Bubble spot lost. Sorry Marquette.
Creighton being a 8 surprised me (but not others)
St Bony getting a 11 when RIU was a 7 was little puzzling if you compare them
I'm glad St Mary's & Lousville weak resumes were left out
I got 35 of the 46 with correct seed.
I had USC in over The Cuse
Was off with Creighton, West Virginia and St Bony by more than 1 seed line.
Post by: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 06:39:31 PM
Post by: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 06:42:25 PM
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 11, 2018, 06:57:04 PM
Idea for the mods: can we add a bracketology tab on gE and see about getting some combo of PP and _fan’s predictos added to the bracket matrix?
:lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)
How long have you been posting here?
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 11, 2018, 06:57:32 PM
Sounds pretty good. I appreciated reading your predictos :thumbs:
Yes, nice job PP!
Post by: The Big Train on March 11, 2018, 07:08:39 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 11, 2018, 07:10:54 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2018, 07:19:45 PM
1-68 overall seeding
Cats were #34
Post by: CHONGS on March 11, 2018, 07:24:52 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2018, 07:47:44 PM
Post by: mocat on March 11, 2018, 09:39:50 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 11, 2018, 09:58:22 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2018, 10:10:40 PM
Top 2 teams in A10, RIU and St Bony. Don't understand the 14 spot difference here (28,42)
Rhode Island=
25-7, 15-3
2-6 vs Q1
4-0 vs Q2
19-1 vs Q3-Q4
SOS 59
Road 7-4
Wins away from home= 1 Q1, 1 Q2
Wins vs Tourney teams = 6
St Bony=
25-7, 14-4
3-4 vs Q1
6-0 vs Q2
16-3 vs Q3-Q4
SOS 89
Road 9-4
Wins away from home = 2 Q1, 3 Q2
Wins vs Tourney teams = 4
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2018, 10:42:50 PM
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/sports/colleges/basketball/march-madness-dancing-mascots/img/small-kansasState.gif)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 11, 2018, 11:31:38 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 11, 2018, 11:39:26 PM
Sounds pretty good. I appreciated reading your predictos :thumbs:
Yes, nice job PP!
Thanks guys. I enjoy doing it. I was able to get 36 of the 46 teams within 0-2 spots of their "overall seed" so I felt like I did somewhat good. But Creighton, St Bony and WV I missed the boat I guess.
At least KState got in the 8 vs 9 game like many thought ( just wish Xavier was our 1 seed)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 12, 2018, 12:07:08 AM
Sounds pretty good. I appreciated reading your predictos :thumbs:
Yes, nice job PP!
Thanks guys. I enjoy doing it. I was able to get 36 of the 46 teams within 0-2 spots of their "overall seed" so I felt like I did somewhat good. But Creighton, St Bony and WV I missed the boat I guess.
At least KState got in the 8 vs 9 game like many thought ( just wish Xavier was our 1 seed)
PP I think the only difference in Xavier or UVA is we'd lose by 8-10 against Xavier and 15-20 against UVA
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2018, 12:16:15 AM
23-11, 14-7 in all vs P12
34 RPI
39 SOS
4-6 vs Q1
5-4 vs Q2
14-1 vs Q3-Q4
They won vs Middle Tennessee, Vandy and a bunch of middle of the pack Pac-12 teams. 0-5 vs Arizona, Ucla, Asu (also lost to OU and Texas AM).
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2018, 12:31:47 AM
Sounds pretty good. I appreciated reading your predictos :thumbs:
Yes, nice job PP!
Thanks guys. I enjoy doing it. I was able to get 36 of the 46 teams within 0-2 spots of their "overall seed" so I felt like I did somewhat good. But Creighton, St Bony and WV I missed the boat I guess.
At least KState got in the 8 vs 9 game like many thought ( just wish Xavier was our 1 seed)
PP I think the only difference in Xavier or UVA is we'd lose by 8-10 against Xavier and 15-20 against UVA
It won't be easy to beat either, but never know. Louisville and Notre Dame, 2 teams not in the Tourney... 1 had Virginia beat and had a meltdown late, the other was down 2 with under a minute (both in last 11 days).
Xavier last 6 games included getting drilled at home by Nova, a narrow 3 pt win at 195 RPI DePaul and a loss to Providence in B.E. Tourney
Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2018, 07:05:40 AM
Not that anyone cares about the NIT but if they seed the way they normally do, bubble darling Oklahoma State, may not even get a home game with their atrocious RPI.
Oh man, I talked to a friend that is a Nebraska fan and he was ticked about their 5 seed (and no home game) in the NIT.
I don't do the whole field like PP, but I missed on USC and St. Mary's plus I didn't have Syracuse in the field.
Post by: catastrophe on March 12, 2018, 07:09:18 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/sports/colleges/basketball/march-madness-dancing-mascots/?utm_term=.0a4eea8d9148
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/sports/colleges/basketball/march-madness-dancing-mascots/img/small-kansasState.gif)
Purdue is hands down the best.
Post by: MadCat on March 12, 2018, 10:08:37 AM
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/sports/colleges/basketball/march-madness-dancing-mascots/img/small-oklahoma.gif) WILDCATS!
Post by: Steffy08 on March 12, 2018, 10:18:16 AM
Although the KSU/Foster game is juicy, the committee could have easily put Mizzou in the same bracket as KU and also had A&M and UT play in the first round.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 12, 2018, 10:27:33 AM
I guess we have to take the NCAA at their word when they say they don't orchestrate match-ups.
Although the KSU/Foster game is juicy, the committee could have easily put Mizzou in the same bracket as KU and also had A&M and UT play in the first round.
I think Mizzou was pretty destined for the 4th #1 seed with Porter returning.
Post by: mocat on March 12, 2018, 10:58:17 AM
Post by: mocat on March 12, 2018, 11:03:42 AM
Post by: wetwillie on March 12, 2018, 12:16:29 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2018, 12:37:54 PM
South Carolina appears to have not made the field this year. How sad.
Wow, they didn't even make the NIT field.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2018, 01:25:47 PM
that Kentucky Arizona matchup is so hot, wow. 2 blue blood conf tourney champs in the 2nd round
Just an unreal Rd of 32 matchup.
I guess we have to take the NCAA at their word when they say they don't orchestrate match-ups.
Although the KSU/Foster game is juicy, the committee could have easily put Mizzou in the same bracket as KU and also had A&M and UT play in the first round.
How bout Wichita St playing Marshall. Interesting side plot there too
Post by: Steffy08 on March 12, 2018, 01:36:00 PM
that Kentucky Arizona matchup is so hot, wow. 2 blue blood conf tourney champs in the 2nd round
Just an unreal Rd of 32 matchup.I guess we have to take the NCAA at their word when they say they don't orchestrate match-ups.
Although the KSU/Foster game is juicy, the committee could have easily put Mizzou in the same bracket as KU and also had A&M and UT play in the first round.
How bout Wichita St playing Marshall. Interesting side plot there too
The only thing I've got is that WSU's head coach's name is Marshall. What am I missing? :dunno:
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 12, 2018, 01:36:44 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 12, 2018, 01:56:24 PM
that Kentucky Arizona matchup is so hot, wow. 2 blue blood conf tourney champs in the 2nd round
Just an unreal Rd of 32 matchup.I guess we have to take the NCAA at their word when they say they don't orchestrate match-ups.
Although the KSU/Foster game is juicy, the committee could have easily put Mizzou in the same bracket as KU and also had A&M and UT play in the first round.
How bout Wichita St playing Marshall. Interesting side plot there too
The only thing I've got is that WSU's head coach's name is Marshall. What am I missing? :dunno:
Omg. That's why I shouldn't post when I only slept 4 hours last night. Greg coached at Winthrop before coaching at Wsu. Yep, I'm stupid this morning
Post by: michigancat on March 12, 2018, 02:46:42 PM
Both had football teams in disastrous plane crashes.that Kentucky Arizona matchup is so hot, wow. 2 blue blood conf tourney champs in the 2nd round
Just an unreal Rd of 32 matchup.I guess we have to take the NCAA at their word when they say they don't orchestrate match-ups.
Although the KSU/Foster game is juicy, the committee could have easily put Mizzou in the same bracket as KU and also had A&M and UT play in the first round.
How bout Wichita St playing Marshall. Interesting side plot there too
The only thing I've got is that WSU's head coach's name is Marshall. What am I missing? :dunno:
Omg. That's why I shouldn't post when I only slept 4 hours last night. Greg coached at Winthrop before coaching at Wsu. Yep, I'm stupid this morning
Post by: DQ12 on March 12, 2018, 03:12:05 PM
Post by: hjfklmor on March 13, 2018, 11:25:35 AM
Willie "Strong Bad" the Wildcat
Post by: DQ12 on March 13, 2018, 11:36:51 AM
Post by: hjfklmor on March 13, 2018, 11:54:53 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on March 13, 2018, 12:23:09 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on March 13, 2018, 12:27:47 PM
Listened to ESPN radio a bit the other day and they said 97% of the money was on KSU, by far the biggest edge in the tournament.
bullshit
Post by: mocat on March 13, 2018, 01:02:18 PM
Listened to ESPN radio a bit the other day and they said 97% of the money was on KSU, by far the biggest edge in the tournament.
lol
Post by: ChiComCat on March 13, 2018, 01:35:17 PM
Listened to ESPN radio a bit the other day and they said 97% of the money was on KSU, by far the biggest edge in the tournament.
bullshit
I may have been unclear but it was 97% of the money in the KSU/Creighton matchup. Still seemed crazy tho.
Post by: Trim on March 13, 2018, 01:44:38 PM
Post by: catastrophe on March 13, 2018, 01:57:45 PM
Post by: MadCat on March 14, 2018, 09:27:55 AM
Damn, my middle school memory failed me. Well played, Dlew.
"The Yellow Dart" outed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNCRwxwMhjg
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 16, 2018, 07:57:06 PM
creighton, whom i have extensively scouted this season, is going to roll us
they beat no one away from their home court. St Johns and then Ucla on a neutral court
3-6 vs Seton Hall, Providence, Butler, Marquette
The Flush says bring it on
Lol.
I said more than once Barry would be up to the challenge on Foster.
Barry made him his little BITCH
Post by: mocat on March 19, 2018, 09:52:52 AM
I don't think it's crazy to think a school like K-State could have a couple sweet sixteen appearances each decade. Until we stopped trying to win at basketball for like two decades that would have been a conservative expectation. Basketball landscape has changed, so it's not as easy for us to have that rate of success, but it's not like some kind of pipe dream or something to expect a couple short runs every ten years..I wonder how many schools have multiple sweet 16s over the last 10 years
i'm glad you asked. 35 different schools have multiple sweet 16 appearances in the last 10 years (2008-2017).
here is the list:
7 Kansas, Michigan State, North Carolina, Wisconsin
6 Arizona, Duke, Kentucky, Louisville, Xavier
5 Florida, Syracuse
4 Baylor, Gonzaga, Ohio State, UCLA, West Virginia
3 Butler, UConn, Indiana, Marquette, Michigan, Oklahoma, Oregon, Purdue, Tennessee, Villanova
2 Iowa State, Memphis, Miami (FL), NC State, Notre Dame, San Diego State, Stanford, Virginia, Wichita State
24 other schools have made the sweet 16 exactly once in that span:
BYU
Cincinnati
Cornell
Davidson
Dayton
Florida State
Florida-GC
Kansas State
La Salle
Maryland
Missouri
Northern Iowa
Ohio
Pittsburgh
Richmond
South Carolina
St. Mary's
Texas
Texas A&M
Utah
VCU
Washington
Washington State
Western Kentucky
UPDATED LIST!!!!
36 schools have made at least 2 sweet 16s in the past 10 years (2009-2018):
7 Duke, Kansas, Kentucky
6 Arizona, Michigan State, North Carolina, Syracuse, Wisconsin
5 Florida, Gonzaga, Louisville, Xavier
4 Baylor, Michigan, Ohio State, Purdue, West Virginia
3 Butler, UConn, Indiana, Marquette, Oklahoma, Oregon, UCLA, Villanova
2 Florida State, Iowa State, Kansas State, Miami (FL), NC State, Notre Dame, San Diego State, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Virginia, Wichita State
Florida State, Kansas State, and Texas A&M joined the multiple sweet 16 club
Memphis and Stanford dropped out
23 schools have made the sweet 16 exactly once in that span:
BYU
Cincinnati
Clemson '18
Cornell
Dayton
Florida-GC
La Salle
Loyola-Chicago '18
Maryland
Memphis
Missouri
Nevada '18
Northern Iowa
Ohio
Pittsburgh
Richmond
South Carolina
St. Mary's
Stanford
Texas Tech '18
Utah
VCU
Washington
new additions to the trash tier (no sweet 16s in the past 10 years):
Davidson
Texas
Washington State
Western Kentucky
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2018, 09:56:22 AM
Post by: mocat on March 19, 2018, 10:20:49 AM
10 years (1999-2008): 10 NCAA tournaments, 16 wins, 5 sweet 16s, 3 elite 8s, 1 final 4
10 years (2009-2018): 7 NCAA tournaments, 3 wins, 0 sweet 16s, 0 elite 8s, 0 final 4s
Post by: Skipper44 on March 19, 2018, 03:15:06 PM
Post by: mocat on April 02, 2018, 09:08:20 AM
POWERCAT POSSE STYLE NERD POST ALERT
i went ahead and did elite 8 appearances also for the same 10 year period (2008-2017)
of the 35 teams who made the sweet 16 multiple times, 28 made it to the elite 8 at least once:
6 Kentucky, North Carolina
5 Florida, Kansas, Louisville
4 Michigan State
3 Arizona, Duke, Syracuse, UConn
2 Baylor, Butler, Gonzaga, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Villanova, Wisconsin, Xavier
1 Marquette, Memphis, Tennessee, UCLA, Virginia, West Virginia, Wichita State
the other 7 schools were skunked
0 for 3: Indiana, Purdue
0 for 2: Iowa State, Miami (FL), NC State, San Diego State, Stanford
6 schools turned their only sweet 16 appearance into an elite 8 appearance:
Davidson '08
Texas '08
Missouri '09
Pittsburgh '09
Kansas State '10
Dayton '14
2 schools turned their only sweet 16 appearance into a final four run:
VCU '11
South Carolina '17
UPDATED!
of the 36 schools who have made multiple sweet 16s in the past decade (2009-2018), 28 have made the elite 8 at least once:
6: Kentucky
5: Florida, Kansas, North Carolina
4: Duke, Louisville, Michigan State
3: Arizona, Michigan, Syracuse, UConn, Villanova
2: Baylor, Butler, Gonzaga, Kansas State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Wisconsin
1: Florida State, Marquette, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, Wichita State, Xavier
the other 8 schools were skunked:
0 for 4: Purdue
0 for 3: Indiana, UCLA
0 for 2: Iowa State, Miami, NC State, San Diego State, Texas A&M
4 schools turned their only sweet 16 appearance into an elite 8 appearance:
Missouri '09
Pittsburgh '09
Dayton '14
Texas Tech '18
3 schools turned their only sweet 16 appearance into a final 4 run:
VCU '11
South Carolina '17
Loyola-Chicago '18
Post by: mocat on April 02, 2018, 11:44:28 AM
final fours (2008-2017)
4 Kentucky, North Carolina
3 Michigan State, UConn
2 Butler, Duke, Kansas, Louisville, Syracuse, Villanova, Wisconsin
1 Florida, Gonzaga, Memphis, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, UCLA, VCU, West Virginia, Wichita State
if you want to use a 10 year span of tournament results to judge a program, maybe we can come up with some tiers
A++ tier (3+ final fours) 4 schools
A+ tier (2+ final fours) 11 schools
A tier (2+ elite eights) 21 schools
B+ tier (1+ final four) 23 schools
B tier (1+ elite eight) 36 schools
B- tier (2+ sweet sixteens) 35 schools
C tier (1+ sweet sixteen) 59 schools
Trash tier (no sweet sixteens) no idea how many, probably a crap ton like 292 or something
the Trash tier could probably be split up into schools that have made the tournament at least X number of times, and schools that have not, but that's more work and it doesn't matter
UPDATED!
final fours (2009-2018)
4: Kentucky
3: Michigan State, North Carolina, UConn, Villanova
2: Butler, Duke, Kansas, Louisville, Michigan, Syracuse, Wisconsin
1: Florida, Gonzaga, Loyola-Chicago, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, VCU, West Virginia, Wichita State
21 schools have multiple elite 8 appearances, and 4 of those have been skunked trying to get to the final 4:
0 for 3: Arizona
0 for 2: Baylor, Kansas State, Notre Dame
TIERS FOR YEARS (09-18)
A++ tier (3+ final fours) 5 schools
A+ tier (2+ final fours) 12 schools
A tier (2+ elite eights) 21 schools
B+ tier (1+ final four) 22 schools
B tier (1+ elite eight) 35 schools
B- tier (2+ sweet sixteens) 36 schools
C tier (1+ sweet sixteen) 59 schools
Trash tier (no sweet sixteens) 292 schools
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 02, 2018, 12:49:49 PM
Post by: mocat on April 02, 2018, 01:12:08 PM
Villanova is now A++ tier (will need to make final four again in 2019 to keep status)
Michigan is now A+ tier (guaranteed to keep status until 2023 tournament)
Kansas State is now A tier (guaranteed to keep status until 2020 tournament)
Post by: mocat on April 02, 2018, 02:26:42 PM
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Post by: mocat on April 02, 2018, 02:30:36 PM
ADVANTAGE: MICHIGAN
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 02, 2018, 05:10:33 PM
Post by: The Big Train on April 02, 2018, 09:26:54 PM
ADVANTAGE: MICHIGAN
YIKES
Post by: mocat on April 03, 2018, 08:38:33 AM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 03, 2018, 08:41:09 AM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/2018-19-college-basketball-rankings-way-too-early-projection-has-kansas-and-duke-at-the-top/
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 03, 2018, 08:44:17 AM
Post by: mocat on April 03, 2018, 08:47:32 AM
sidenote: according to kenpom, 2018 villanova was the highest rated champion since 2008 kansas
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 03, 2018, 09:03:26 AM
Post by: kslim on April 03, 2018, 11:39:47 AM
Post by: BostonPancake on April 06, 2018, 05:19:02 PM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 02, 2018, 01:24:27 PM
Post by: KITNfury on November 02, 2018, 01:49:21 PM
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-11-01/andy-katz-filled-out-preseason-ncaa-tournament-bracket-letsWould take, but we aren't going to be a 3 seed.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 02, 2018, 01:51:27 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 02, 2018, 05:26:34 PM
Why not? :frown:
because we will be at least a 2 bud. :emawkid:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 02, 2018, 07:43:16 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 11, 2019, 11:38:22 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-will-committee-give-duke-or-kentucky-the-last-no-1-seed/ar-BBUCEmG?li=BBnb4R7
Lunardi has us both as #4 with KU in DC and us in Lousiville
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Post by: pissclams on March 11, 2019, 12:36:45 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 12, 2019, 02:52:22 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on March 12, 2019, 07:25:31 AM
Post by: BostonPancake on March 14, 2019, 11:32:09 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 15, 2019, 08:42:37 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on February 15, 2022, 09:40:25 AM
Quote
Next Four Out
Kansas State
:shakesfist:
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 15, 2022, 09:44:20 AM
Post by: wetwillie on February 15, 2022, 10:26:29 AM
Post by: KSNimrod on February 15, 2022, 11:56:54 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 15, 2022, 12:00:37 PM
Are Oklahoma and Iowa State really regarded as better than the Cats this year? What am I missing? I thought we had an advantage in Quad 1 wins or what not? But I'm also a basketball moron so...
Both had much better non-con results than us.
Post by: dean_ksu on February 15, 2022, 12:13:00 PM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)QuoteNext Four Out
Kansas State
:shakesfist:
A win on Saturday and we are likely showing up in the bracketology next week! This team is climbing up the ladder and getting ready for a Final Four run!
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 15, 2022, 01:43:25 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 15, 2022, 03:38:30 PM
Are Oklahoma and Iowa State really regarded as better than the Cats this year? What am I missing? I thought we had an advantage in Quad 1 wins or what not? But I'm also a basketball moron so...
Both had much better non-con results than us.
They performed better against weaker opponents. Not all quad 1s are created equal.
Post by: WildcatNation on February 15, 2022, 04:57:27 PM
Are Oklahoma and Iowa State really regarded as better than the Cats this year? What am I missing? I thought we had an advantage in Quad 1 wins or what not? But I'm also a basketball moron so...
Both had much better non-con results than us.
The non-con overall doesn't really matter though does it? The only ones that matter are the wins in Q1/Q2 and the losses you have in Q4 and SoS, (which the Cats are better in both). No way does OU/ISU have really any better of resume than the Cats.
Post by: CHONGS on February 15, 2022, 06:23:42 PM
They have better kenpom ranking.Are Oklahoma and Iowa State really regarded as better than the Cats this year? What am I missing? I thought we had an advantage in Quad 1 wins or what not? But I'm also a basketball moron so...
Both had much better non-con results than us.
The non-con overall doesn't really matter though does it? The only ones that matter are the wins in Q1/Q2 and the losses you have in Q4 and SoS, (which the Cats are better in both). No way does OU/ISU have really any better of resume than the Cats.
Post by: stunted on February 15, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
Post by: BostonPancake on February 15, 2022, 09:21:27 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 16, 2022, 04:03:07 AM
We don't even show up in Jerry Palm's bracket.
The entire big 12 will be an interesting case study as to what the committee values this year. Our computer numbers are shitty, especially the net, but we're going to end up with a bunch of quad 1 wins. In the past the committee has placed value on the ability to win games against tournament teams.
Post by: stunted on February 16, 2022, 04:39:06 AM
In the past the committee has placed value on the ability to win games against tournament teams.
if we become "the exception" for these kind of things again, i will be very angry
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 16, 2022, 08:29:41 AM
Post by: stunted on February 16, 2022, 11:57:48 AM
Post by: DQ12 on February 16, 2022, 12:09:09 PM
Failing that, we'll probably be left out and wouldn't really have much of an argument.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 16, 2022, 12:12:35 PM
In the past the committee has placed value on the ability to win games against tournament teams.
if we become "the exception" for these kind of things again, i will be very angry
There is no scenario, if K-State gets left out of the tournament, that we would be considered an exception. Iowa State, WVU, and K-State have just lost too many games.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 16, 2022, 02:10:45 PM
Do you honestly think we don’t at 9-9?
at 9-9 i do think we are in, but i also wouldn't think we got screwed if we got left out. As of today we are 5-9 in Q1 games and 1-2 in Q2 games. If we finish 9-9 then mostly likely that means we finish 6-11 in Q1 games and 3-2 in Q2 games. To our credit, iowa st is the only other team that has played 14 Q1 games, but i don't think a team should be rewarded just because they played the most Q1 games if they are only winning 1 in 3 of those games. To me that is the resume of a team that is achieving extreme levels of mediocrity and i don't see how a team that mediocre can argue that they should be a lock for the tourney.
Post by: wetwillie on February 16, 2022, 02:18:44 PM
Post by: stunted on February 16, 2022, 02:31:21 PM
i also think what the team is like now should be a lot more heavily weighted than the beginning when we were figuring crap out, had covid, etc. i don't know how much they factor that in, but it's very logical, and if they stupidly don't factor that in and you want to take that side, then :dunno:
Post by: bigtisme on February 16, 2022, 03:12:11 PM
I get the 0-4 stretch we played without any players or coaches might factor into things, but 17-14 could easily be on the wrong side of the bubble.
Post by: ChiComCat on February 16, 2022, 04:35:40 PM
it's not winning 20+ games, going 10-6 and 9-7 and making the NIT levels of screwed, but it's definitely a solid 6.5 on the screwed scale.
i also think what the team is like now should be a lot more heavily weighted than the beginning when we were figuring crap out, had covid, etc. i don't know how much they factor that in, but it's very logical, and if they stupidly don't factor that in and you want to take that side, then :dunno:
I don't know how easily they can factor Covid in for all 80 or so teams they consider. Maybe K-State's is glaring enough that it factors in or maybe they look closer at the teams on the bubble than they do worrying about a team going from a 6 to a 5 seed, but it seems pretty challenging to try and decide what games to discredit for everyone.
Post by: catastrophe on February 16, 2022, 07:40:08 PM
It’s been touched on, but I definitely think that COVID protocols should push the committee to place significantly more emphasis on quality wins as opposed to “bad” losses. I’m not exactly sure of KSU’s situation but just as a hypothetical it seems unfair to effectively credit a team for “avoiding” a loss by having too many players out due to COVID vs. a team that played and lost a game extremely undermanned.In the past the committee has placed value on the ability to win games against tournament teams.
if we become "the exception" for these kind of things again, i will be very angry
There is no scenario, if K-State gets left out of the tournament, that we would be considered an exception. Iowa State, WVU, and K-State have just lost too many games.
Post by: CHONGS on February 16, 2022, 07:41:06 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 16, 2022, 10:02:21 PM
It’s been touched on, but I definitely think that COVID protocols should push the committee to place significantly more emphasis on quality wins as opposed to “bad” losses. I’m not exactly sure of KSU’s situation but just as a hypothetical it seems unfair to effectively credit a team for “avoiding” a loss by having too many players out due to COVID vs. a team that played and lost a game extremely undermanned.In the past the committee has placed value on the ability to win games against tournament teams.
if we become "the exception" for these kind of things again, i will be very angry
There is no scenario, if K-State gets left out of the tournament, that we would be considered an exception. Iowa State, WVU, and K-State have just lost too many games.
This seemingly wasn't a factor last year, it certainly won't this year. I also don't think COVID had a huge effect on the early to mid season results. The game I can think of where we had the most issues Oklahoma had three or four guys out too, including the Grove brothers. It was really just three games and who knows if we would have won any of them.
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on December 21, 2022, 08:54:22 AM
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-projecting-2023-march-madness-men-field
Post by: nicname on December 22, 2022, 01:01:57 AM
https://www.colleyrankings.com/hcurrank.html
Post by: 'taterblast on January 06, 2023, 08:32:57 AM
https://www.fanduel.com/theduel/posts/bracket-breakdown-jan-6th-01gp3hw3kvh2
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Top 16 Seeds
1: Kansas, Purdue, UConn, Arizona
2: Houston, UCLA, Alabama, Tennessee
3: Gonzaga, Arkansas, Virginia, TCU
4: Xavier, Wisconsin, Miami, Kansas State
Post by: wetwillie on January 06, 2023, 08:40:13 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 06, 2023, 08:49:00 AM
:surprised: :surprised:
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-projecting-2023-march-madness-men-field
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ALBANY
4 Kansas St.
13 Utah Valley
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2023, 09:00:10 AM
Post by: wetwillie on January 06, 2023, 09:53:49 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 06, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
If we go 10-8 in conference and beat UF for the final non con game we will be 22-9 with a crap ton of Q1 wins. I don’t think a 4-6 seed is out of the question and winning 8/16 big 12 games isn’t either.
Yeah, we're exceeding expectations but at this point that is pretty realistic, and I think with the Big 12's strength having a 6 seed is fairly obtainable.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 06, 2023, 11:08:53 AM
:surprised: :surprised:
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-projecting-2023-march-madness-men-fieldQuoteALBANY
4 Kansas St.
13 Utah Valley
Lunardi is consistently frustrating with how he completely disregards pods. If we're a four seed, we'll either be in Des Moines or Denver. If this trend of KU, K-State, and flood aggie continues, this is another reason to cheer hard against flood aggie.
Post by: Winters on January 06, 2023, 12:49:13 PM
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Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2023, 01:59:54 PM
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Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2023, 02:02:45 PM
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 06, 2023, 02:10:16 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 06, 2023, 02:14:42 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 06, 2023, 03:42:24 PM
I was like oh cool a regional in NYC!!! I should go and so I went to ticketmaster and :sdeek:
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If you want to go, you'll be able to get face value tickets when they go on sale. Don't ever buy regional and final four tickets from a reseller months before the event.
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2023, 03:47:35 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 06, 2023, 03:56:07 PM
Post by: mocat on January 06, 2023, 05:49:13 PM
Those prices in shitty Albany too. :Yuck:
Albany is p cool imo
Post by: catastrophe on January 06, 2023, 05:57:40 PM
It's amazing how quickly we have gone from very underrated to somewhat overrated.My feeling exactly
Post by: MakeItRain on January 06, 2023, 06:05:31 PM
yepIt's amazing how quickly we have gone from very underrated to somewhat overrated.My feeling exactly
Post by: pissclams on January 06, 2023, 08:19:14 PM
based on what we have done, we’re easily a four seed and maybe even a 3. so not overrated and possibly underrated. thank you for listening and GO CATS!
Post by: Houstoncat93 on January 07, 2023, 08:28:03 AM
they have to seed us on what we’ve done, not what we should be doing or what we’re going to do or anything else. it’s a snapshot in time, not suggesting we’re going to end the season as a four.
based on what we have done, we’re easily a four seed and maybe even a 3. so not overrated and possibly underrated. thank you for listening and GO CATS!
Pretty hard to argue we are close to a 3 seed when we are 17 in the Net and 3 - 1 in Quad 1 games. We are also 29th in KenPom. We look like a 4 - 5 seed right now. We are getting a lot of credit for a game in which had 100+ put up on us.
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2023, 09:51:02 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2023, 09:59:54 AM
i was more arguing that we weren’t overseeded
I don't think we're overseeded either, I think we are overated. People think our current form is sustainable, I don't, not even close. I think we'll spend most of the season on the bubble.
Post by: Houstoncat93 on January 07, 2023, 11:03:11 AM
i was more arguing that we weren’t overseeded
I don't think we're overseeded either, I think we are overated. People think our current form is sustainable, I don't, not even close. I think we'll spend most of the season on the bubble.
Palm at CBS has us as a 3 seed right now which is too high. Lunardi and the host of others seem more reasonable at 4 - 6 seeds.
I have a hard time seeing us dropping to the bubble given the strength of the Big 12. Even if we start going .500 each week for the rest of the season that will give us enough quality wins to stay above the bubble. We would need to go on a 4ish game-losing streak to drop to bubble.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 07, 2023, 11:04:10 AM
i was more arguing that we weren’t overseeded
I don't think we're overseeded either, I think we are overated. People think our current form is sustainable, I don't, not even close. I think we'll spend most of the season on the bubble.
I’m walking that fine line of “letting myself be excited for how the team is doing” and “remembering that any reasonable person 10 months ago would be over the moon if Tang’s first team would even be in the discussion for making the tournament”
The only problem with letting myself be excited is that it will lead to me having expectations
Post by: Houstoncat93 on January 07, 2023, 11:48:21 AM
-Top 6 in the league
-9 seed
-First-round win
I would like to amend this prediction:
-Top 6 in the league
-7 seed
-Sweet 16 appearance
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2023, 08:20:46 PM
i was more arguing that we weren’t overseeded
I don't think we're overseeded either, I think we are overated. People think our current form is sustainable, I don't, not even close. I think we'll spend most of the season on the bubble.
So all is this, bin it. I believe, if we're overrated go ahead and count me with those overrating this team. We're Big 12 title contenders. This might be the best team we've seen at K-State, certainly the best the last 35 years. Holy crap
Post by: catastrophe on January 07, 2023, 08:31:38 PM
We very well might have some WTF drops, but this team has shown enough to believe they can be competitive in every single game.
Post by: cfbandyman on January 07, 2023, 08:34:05 PM
-Top 6 in the league
-9 seed
-First-round win
I would like to amend this prediction:
-Top 6 in the league
-7 seed
-Sweet 16 appearance
I think top 4 in league and a 5 seed is where we'll be
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2023, 09:13:52 PM
i was more arguing that we weren’t overseeded
I don't think we're overseeded either, I think we are overated. People think our current form is sustainable, I don't, not even close. I think we'll spend most of the season on the bubble.
So all is this, bin it. I believe, if we're overrated go ahead and count me with those overrating this team. We're Big 12 title contenders. This might be the best team we've seen at K-State, certainly the best the last 35 years. Holy crap
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Post by: Houstoncat93 on January 07, 2023, 09:22:49 PM
-Top 6 in the league
-9 seed
-First-round win
I would like to amend this prediction:
-Top 6 in the league
-7 seed
-Sweet 16 appearance
I think top 4 in league and a 5 seed is where we'll be
I think we are going to have a struggle period coming up as we go from the hunter to the hunted. We will lose a few in that stretch that will keep our seeding lower than the quality of the team.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2023, 10:06:00 PM
i was more arguing that we weren’t overseeded
I don't think we're overseeded either, I think we are overated. People think our current form is sustainable, I don't, not even close. I think we'll spend most of the season on the bubble.
So all is this, bin it. I believe, if we're overrated go ahead and count me with those overrating this team. We're Big 12 title contenders. This might be the best team we've seen at K-State, certainly the best the last 35 years. Holy crap
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Right!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2023, 10:09:19 PM
Hard to disagree after we’ve done it this consistently. I mean, beating a super desperate Baylor at home to me is worth more than pantsing a Beard-less Texas team.
We very well might have some WTF drops, but this team has shown enough to believe they can be competitive in every single game.
There won't be any WTF drops because outside of Florida, there are no bad teams left. I think OSU is the worst team in the conference and they should have had KU at least in overtime, at the pissbarn. We'll definitely drop some games, but I'm calling it now that we'll be the only team to win at Texas and at Baylor.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 07, 2023, 10:14:19 PM
Hard to disagree after we’ve done it this consistently. I mean, beating a super desperate Baylor at home to me is worth more than pantsing a Beard-less Texas team.
We very well might have some WTF drops, but this team has shown enough to believe they can be competitive in every single game.
There won't be any WTF drops because outside of Florida, there are no bad teams left. I think OSU is the worst team in the conference and they should have had KU at least in overtime, at the pissbarn. We'll definitely drop some games, but I'm calling it now that we'll be the only team to win at Texas and at Baylor.
By this time in March I really hope you are telling us all so
Post by: BostonPancake on January 07, 2023, 10:22:23 PM
Hard to disagree after we’ve done it this consistently. I mean, beating a super desperate Baylor at home to me is worth more than pantsing a Beard-less Texas team.
We very well might have some WTF drops, but this team has shown enough to believe they can be competitive in every single game.
There won't be any WTF drops because outside of Florida, there are no bad teams left. I think OSU is the worst team in the conference and they should have had KU at least in overtime, at the pissbarn. We'll definitely drop some games, but I'm calling it now that we'll be the only team to win at Texas and at Baylor.
Not trying to be an asshat but TCU has already won at Baylor.
Post by: catastrophe on January 07, 2023, 10:26:21 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2023, 10:39:32 PM
Hard to disagree after we’ve done it this consistently. I mean, beating a super desperate Baylor at home to me is worth more than pantsing a Beard-less Texas team.
We very well might have some WTF drops, but this team has shown enough to believe they can be competitive in every single game.
There won't be any WTF drops because outside of Florida, there are no bad teams left. I think OSU is the worst team in the conference and they should have had KU at least in overtime, at the pissbarn. We'll definitely drop some games, but I'm calling it now that we'll be the only team to win at Texas and at Baylor.
Not trying to be an asshat but TCU has already won at Baylor.
I know
Post by: BostonPancake on January 12, 2023, 05:04:02 PM
Hard to disagree after we’ve done it this consistently. I mean, beating a super desperate Baylor at home to me is worth more than pantsing a Beard-less Texas team.
We very well might have some WTF drops, but this team has shown enough to believe they can be competitive in every single game.
There won't be any WTF drops because outside of Florida, there are no bad teams left. I think OSU is the worst team in the conference and they should have had KU at least in overtime, at the pissbarn. We'll definitely drop some games, but I'm calling it now that we'll be the only team to win at Texas and at Baylor.
Not trying to be an asshat but TCU has already won at Baylor.
I know
Ah, my bad....you meant we will be the only team to win at both places.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 12, 2023, 09:50:07 PM
Hard to disagree after we’ve done it this consistently. I mean, beating a super desperate Baylor at home to me is worth more than pantsing a Beard-less Texas team.
We very well might have some WTF drops, but this team has shown enough to believe they can be competitive in every single game.
There won't be any WTF drops because outside of Florida, there are no bad teams left. I think OSU is the worst team in the conference and they should have had KU at least in overtime, at the pissbarn. We'll definitely drop some games, but I'm calling it now that we'll be the only team to win at Texas and at Baylor.
Not trying to be an asshat but TCU has already won at Baylor.
I know
Ah, my bad....you meant we will be the only team to win at both places.
:thumbs:
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2023, 08:37:23 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2023, 08:43:31 PM
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Post by: pissclams on January 21, 2023, 08:47:51 PM
Post by: mocat on January 21, 2023, 08:50:07 PM
Post by: catastrophe on January 21, 2023, 09:22:30 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 21, 2023, 09:33:37 PM
That's crazy, we haven't beaten the crap out of anybody with a pulse all year
Wins a win, losing to TCU by 12 is at this point our worst loss, else it's Butler.
We had legit 4 seed chops before this week, now we are legit 2 or 1 seed level. Don't fool yourself.
If we win the next 3 games you wouldn't keep this team from being a top 2 seed, ever.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2023, 10:10:39 PM
That's crazy, we haven't beaten the crap out of anybody with a pulse all yearFirst of all this is not at all accurate. Second, if we hadn't beat the crap out of Texas, on their home court, margin of victory has literally never been a metric for seeding.
Post by: mocat on January 21, 2023, 10:38:10 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2023, 11:31:04 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 22, 2023, 12:13:01 AM
Post by: KITNfury on January 22, 2023, 06:38:53 AM
Post by: mocat on January 22, 2023, 09:54:53 AM
I've heard Jerry Palm say the winner of the Big 12 is getting a #1 seed, we're leading the Big 12 so I don't know if it's much more to it than that.
I suppose so.
Kenpom is projecting a 4 way tie for 1st at 11-7, lol. That would be bananas
Post by: catastrophe on January 22, 2023, 12:50:33 PM
Post by: Pete on January 22, 2023, 01:09:14 PM
Not sure I can accepted anything else now that I've tasted a 1 seed.
Ugh, I know!
Post by: mocat on January 22, 2023, 01:26:57 PM
Would the Big 12 really dish out 4 trophies in that scenario?All four 1 seeds would be from the b12 according to Jerry Palm
Post by: wetwillie on January 22, 2023, 01:31:17 PM
Post by: Pete on January 22, 2023, 01:33:50 PM
I’ve always said Jerry Palm is the premier bracketologist in all the land
Yes, Lundardi is just the Autism spectrum kid with a brilliant idea and an obsession.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 22, 2023, 05:14:08 PM
I've heard Jerry Palm say the winner of the Big 12 is getting a #1 seed, we're leading the Big 12 so I don't know if it's much more to it than that.
I suppose so.
Kenpom is projecting a 4 way tie for 1st at 11-7, lol. That would be bananas
Yeah, pretty safe bet that K-State isn't finishing 5-6. His algo's got K-State, OU, OSU, West Virginia all finishing the conference season 5-6 :lol:
Post by: mocat on January 22, 2023, 06:38:01 PM
Almost all b12 games will be close and could go either wayI've heard Jerry Palm say the winner of the Big 12 is getting a #1 seed, we're leading the Big 12 so I don't know if it's much more to it than that.
I suppose so.
Kenpom is projecting a 4 way tie for 1st at 11-7, lol. That would be bananas
Yeah, pretty safe bet that K-State isn't finishing 5-6. His algo's got K-State, OU, OSU, West Virginia all finishing the conference season 5-6
Post by: wetwillie on January 22, 2023, 07:17:35 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 22, 2023, 08:36:51 PM
TO rate is what probably scares me most. Hopefully we can clean that up. If we don’t I could see us losing quite a few down the stretch.
It and oboarding I think are our worst traits. Both fixable but yeah will cause us to lose some games.
Also, and the TCU game proved this, the game goes well when Nowell and Johnson have good games. Poor games from them and we can't challenge. Hopefully more Tomlin/Sills/Ish can help provide valuable buckets if they have off games
Post by: MakeItRain on January 22, 2023, 10:42:12 PM
Almost all b12 games will be close and could go either wayI've heard Jerry Palm say the winner of the Big 12 is getting a #1 seed, we're leading the Big 12 so I don't know if it's much more to it than that.
I suppose so.
Kenpom is projecting a 4 way tie for 1st at 11-7, lol. That would be bananas
Yeah, pretty safe bet that K-State isn't finishing 5-6. His algo's got K-State, OU, OSU, West Virginia all finishing the conference season 5-6
Right, and like every other year when the Big 12, or any other conference is good, the best teams win most of those "go either way" games, not lose half of them..
Post by: Pete on January 23, 2023, 08:17:55 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 03, 2023, 09:32:41 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on February 03, 2023, 09:38:20 PM
Post by: 8manpick on February 21, 2023, 10:28:56 AM
:bracketmouse:
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 21, 2023, 11:22:56 AM
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2023-march-madness-men-field-predictionsdream bracket
:bracketmouse:
Post by: wetwillie on February 21, 2023, 12:10:55 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on February 21, 2023, 12:48:08 PM
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2023-march-madness-men-field-predictions
:bracketmouse:
Crazy that if you have Des Moines as a 1 seed you gotta go to Vegas, but a 3 seed gets KC. Not complaining just odd, especially since the West 2 seed is in Sacramento
If we win 2 more games and don’t get the 3 seed in the Midwest bracket we literally burn down the NCAA HQ
Agreed, but I think we need 3 wins, (BAY, OU, and 1 road or Big 12 tourny win) to feel secure about it
Post by: wetwillie on February 21, 2023, 01:15:46 PM
Post by: Spracne on February 21, 2023, 01:24:34 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 21, 2023, 01:34:11 PM
Post by: Spracne on February 21, 2023, 01:52:46 PM
You have as many final 4’s in my lifetime as I have fingers, just let us have this one.
Well when you put it that way, I guess I'm fine with it.
Post by: konofo on February 21, 2023, 02:25:53 PM
Hey they gonna keep KU outta KC?Could be better to be the 5th/6th overall than 3rd/4th.
I suggest losing a few games real quick.
kono
Post by: kim carnes on February 21, 2023, 03:08:31 PM
If we win 2 more games and don’t get the 3 seed in the Midwest bracket we literally burn down the NCAA HQ
We have absolutely no business being a 3 seed
Post by: wetwillie on February 21, 2023, 03:11:33 PM
If we win 2 more games and don’t get the 3 seed in the Midwest bracket we literally burn down the NCAA HQ
We have absolutely no business being a 3 seed
If we win 2 more league games we absolutely do
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 21, 2023, 08:17:12 PM
If we win 2 more games and don’t get the 3 seed in the Midwest bracket we literally burn down the NCAA HQ
We have absolutely no business being a 3 seed
Why settle for a 3 seed when a 2 seed is available
Post by: cfbandyman on February 21, 2023, 08:55:34 PM
If we win 2 more games and don’t get the 3 seed in the Midwest bracket we literally burn down the NCAA HQ
We have absolutely no business being a 3 seed
Why settle for a 3 seed when a 2 seed is available
We're right there, why not
Post by: ben ji on February 22, 2023, 07:12:05 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on February 24, 2023, 12:56:20 PM
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2023-march-madness-men-field-predictions
Makes me wonder if (big if) winning out (so winning the next 3 games and 3 games in KC) would be enough to be a 1 seed.
Post by: konofo on February 24, 2023, 02:47:44 PM
Lunardi moved us to the 2 line:If KU wins the regular season outright, I don't see any scenario where they move off the 1, unless there are mitigating factors, like a key injury. If Texas edges them out, and we beat Kansas and Texas on consecutive days in KC, I'd like our odds a lot better.
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2023-march-madness-men-field-predictions
Makes me wonder if (big if) winning out (so winning the next 3 games and 3 games in KC) would be enough to be a 1 seed.
I don't think Alabama/Houston/Purdue are going to move down without an epic collapse (don't hold your breath), and we may even need help from Cinderellas out west to pass both Arizona and UCLA.
kono
Post by: wetwillie on February 24, 2023, 02:51:22 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 24, 2023, 02:56:52 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 24, 2023, 04:32:22 PM
If we win out, I think we get a 1 seed. Basically no chance we win out, though.
If we win out we'd definitely get a 1 seed, because we'd set or tie KU with a record for most quad 1 wins.
Post by: Pete on February 24, 2023, 06:16:11 PM
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Post by: cfbandyman on February 25, 2023, 03:20:12 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 25, 2023, 03:59:27 PM
I very, very much enjoy debating about being a 1 seed or a 2 seed.It’s a very good feeling
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Post by: Pete on February 27, 2023, 07:26:06 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 27, 2023, 08:31:36 AM
It's looking like we are a very solid bet to be a 2 seed. When they announce the brackets, I'll be looking for two things. First, that we are not in Purdue's bracket. Second, that we are not in KU's bracket. I would MUCH rather play Houston or Alabama if we made it to the elite 8.Thoughts on how many games we need to win in Kansas City to wrap up a 2 seed?
Post by: Pete on February 27, 2023, 08:40:35 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on February 27, 2023, 08:41:53 AM
It's looking like we are a very solid bet to be a 2 seed. When they announce the brackets, I'll be looking for two things. First, that we are not in Purdue's bracket. Second, that we are not in KU's bracket. I would MUCH rather play Houston or Alabama if we made it to the elite 8.Thoughts on how many games we need to win in Kansas City to wrap up a 2 seed?
Assuming we win at least 1 of the final two regular season? 1 game IMO.
I think this is how I think it breaks down (not all scenarios but enough)
Reg season 0-2, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 1-1, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 0-1: 3 seed (maybe 2, probably good enough but I can see us being punished a bit)
Reg season 1-1, KC 1 to 3 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 1 to 2 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 3-0: 1 seed (yes, think we would/could)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 27, 2023, 09:03:38 AM
Guys, this is really exciting. I think this team could to some real damage in the March Madness.It's looking like we are a very solid bet to be a 2 seed. When they announce the brackets, I'll be looking for two things. First, that we are not in Purdue's bracket. Second, that we are not in KU's bracket. I would MUCH rather play Houston or Alabama if we made it to the elite 8.Thoughts on how many games we need to win in Kansas City to wrap up a 2 seed?
Assuming we win at least 1 of the final two regular season? 1 game IMO.
I think this is how I think it breaks down (not all scenarios but enough)
Reg season 0-2, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 1-1, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 0-1: 3 seed (maybe 2, probably good enough but I can see us being punished a bit)
Reg season 1-1, KC 1 to 3 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 1 to 2 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 3-0: 1 seed (yes, think we would/could)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2023, 09:40:06 AM
It's looking like we are a very solid bet to be a 2 seed. When they announce the brackets, I'll be looking for two things. First, that we are not in Purdue's bracket. Second, that we are not in KU's bracket. I would MUCH rather play Houston or Alabama if we made it to the elite 8.Thoughts on how many games we need to win in Kansas City to wrap up a 2 seed?
We're firmly there now, so to stay there I think we just have to avoid ending the season on a losing streak.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 27, 2023, 10:22:53 AM
Post by: wetwillie on February 27, 2023, 10:23:41 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 27, 2023, 10:27:56 AM
I’ve never been to an NCAA tournament game, what’s the pro move on when to buy tickets if we end up somewhere like Denver or Des Moines? My understanding is the schools allotment is hilariously small and will be snatched up by only the biggest of donors.
You should just but tickets to both of those places now and if we don't go there, sell them.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 27, 2023, 10:39:37 AM
I think I would really enjoy the Cats winning the Big XII tournament! That would be so cool!
hey CF3 i have an idea why don't you GTFOOH with your controversial takes for cryin out loud
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 27, 2023, 10:42:07 AM
It's looking like we are a very solid bet to be a 2 seed. When they announce the brackets, I'll be looking for two things. First, that we are not in Purdue's bracket. Second, that we are not in KU's bracket. I would MUCH rather play Houston or Alabama if we made it to the elite 8.Thoughts on how many games we need to win in Kansas City to wrap up a 2 seed?
Assuming we win at least 1 of the final two regular season? 1 game IMO.
I think this is how I think it breaks down (not all scenarios but enough)
Reg season 0-2, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 1-1, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 0-1: 3 seed (maybe 2, probably good enough but I can see us being punished a bit)
Reg season 1-1, KC 1 to 3 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 1 to 2 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 3-0: 1 seed (yes, think we would/could)
I think beating OU unofficially officially shuts the door on sliding to a four seed. After that its pretty complex with jockeying for position with UT and BU. I am not sure how Zaga comes into play.
Post by: Pete on February 27, 2023, 10:48:33 AM
I’ve never been to an NCAA tournament game, what’s the pro move on when to buy tickets if we end up somewhere like Denver or Des Moines? My understanding is the schools allotment is hilariously small and will be snatched up by only the biggest of donors.
First round games are super easy to get right outside the area on the day of the game, UNLESS you are playing a school with a huge following in their own backyard (e.g. KU in KC, Kentucky in Cincy etc.).
I have been to two Sweet Sixteen/Elite 8 games and we bought scalper tix outside before the game, but paid more than face. Neither was hard to get.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2023, 10:53:07 AM
I’ve never been to an NCAA tournament game, what’s the pro move on when to buy tickets if we end up somewhere like Denver or Des Moines? My understanding is the schools allotment is hilariously small and will be snatched up by only the biggest of donors.
This is kinda false, the school allotments are small only because they release a good amount of tickets for everyone, also don't take CF3s advise, sorry bud. Most of the tickets, to all sites, aren't on sell yet. All tickets on sale now are just a small amount of tickets, really just for resale and to rip people off. The NCAA and the venues don't disclose when they actually release the tickets but I've been to the K-State KU Oklahoma City and KC pods along with going to two different Sweet 16/elite 8 sites and I've always paid face value from ticketmaster, not resold tickets. When we lost to Loyola in the elite 8 those final four tickets were there to get too but we couldn't finish the job.
I always buy my round 1 and 2 tickets the night of the selection show, but this year I've been checking ticketmaster every day waiting to see exactly when the tickets will be released.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2023, 10:55:07 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 27, 2023, 11:00:30 AM
Post by: wetwillie on February 27, 2023, 11:02:44 AM
I’ve never been to an NCAA tournament game, what’s the pro move on when to buy tickets if we end up somewhere like Denver or Des Moines? My understanding is the schools allotment is hilariously small and will be snatched up by only the biggest of donors.
This is kinda false, the school allotments are small only because they release a good amount of tickets for everyone, also don't take CF3s advise, sorry bud. Most of the tickets, to all sites, aren't on sell yet. All tickets on sale now are just a small amount of tickets, really just for resale and to rip people off. The NCAA and the venues don't disclose when they actually release the tickets but I've been to the K-State KU Oklahoma City and KC pods along with going to two different Sweet 16/elite 8 sites and I've always paid face value from ticketmaster, not resold tickets. When we lost to Loyola in the elite 8 those final four tickets were there to get too but we couldn't finish the job.
I always buy my round 1 and 2 tickets the night of the selection show, but this year I've been checking ticketmaster every day waiting to see exactly when the tickets will be released.
Thanks, I’ll start keeping an eye on Ticketmaster. Did I understand correctly that it’s a low probability of actually getting the tickets through the ksu ticket office?
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2023, 11:04:42 AM
I’ve never been to an NCAA tournament game, what’s the pro move on when to buy tickets if we end up somewhere like Denver or Des Moines? My understanding is the schools allotment is hilariously small and will be snatched up by only the biggest of donors.
This is kinda false, the school allotments are small only because they release a good amount of tickets for everyone, also don't take CF3s advise, sorry bud. Most of the tickets, to all sites, aren't on sell yet. All tickets on sale now are just a small amount of tickets, really just for resale and to rip people off. The NCAA and the venues don't disclose when they actually release the tickets but I've been to the K-State KU Oklahoma City and KC pods along with going to two different Sweet 16/elite 8 sites and I've always paid face value from ticketmaster, not resold tickets. When we lost to Loyola in the elite 8 those final four tickets were there to get too but we couldn't finish the job.
I always buy my round 1 and 2 tickets the night of the selection show, but this year I've been checking ticketmaster every day waiting to see exactly when the tickets will be released.
Thanks, I’ll start keeping an eye on Ticketmaster. Did I understand correctly that it’s a low probability of actually getting the tickets through the ksu ticket office?
Yeah, don't bother. Not unless you got a lot of Ahearn Points and did the post season ticket request.
Post by: cfbandyman on February 27, 2023, 11:06:34 AM
I’ve never been to an NCAA tournament game, what’s the pro move on when to buy tickets if we end up somewhere like Denver or Des Moines? My understanding is the schools allotment is hilariously small and will be snatched up by only the biggest of donors.
This is kinda false, the school allotments are small only because they release a good amount of tickets for everyone, also don't take CF3s advise, sorry bud. Most of the tickets, to all sites, aren't on sell yet. All tickets on sale now are just a small amount of tickets, really just for resale and to rip people off. The NCAA and the venues don't disclose when they actually release the tickets but I've been to the K-State KU Oklahoma City and KC pods along with going to two different Sweet 16/elite 8 sites and I've always paid face value from ticketmaster, not resold tickets. When we lost to Loyola in the elite 8 those final four tickets were there to get too but we couldn't finish the job.
I always buy my round 1 and 2 tickets the night of the selection show, but this year I've been checking ticketmaster every day waiting to see exactly when the tickets will be released.
Thanks, I’ll start keeping an eye on Ticketmaster. Did I understand correctly that it’s a low probability of actually getting the tickets through the ksu ticket office?
Yeah, don't bother. Not unless you got a lot of Ahearn Points and did the post season ticket request.
Yup, correct, I got mine in KC from like 2014 or w/e it was online from ticketmaster/NCAA site and it was easy enough.
Also, for all who do go, prepare for a ton of NCAA propaganda during the timeouts and between games.
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2023, 11:07:26 AM
i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
I don't know what Ticketmaster has to do with this.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2023, 11:07:49 AM
i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
How ticketmaster handles NCAA tournament tickets hasn't changed a single bit in the last 20 years. The NCAA aren't interested in playing the same games that concert promoters are. To their credit, the NCAA does a great job of getting tickets in the hands of fans.
Post by: cfbandyman on February 27, 2023, 11:09:31 AM
It's looking like we are a very solid bet to be a 2 seed. When they announce the brackets, I'll be looking for two things. First, that we are not in Purdue's bracket. Second, that we are not in KU's bracket. I would MUCH rather play Houston or Alabama if we made it to the elite 8.Thoughts on how many games we need to win in Kansas City to wrap up a 2 seed?
Assuming we win at least 1 of the final two regular season? 1 game IMO.
I think this is how I think it breaks down (not all scenarios but enough)
Reg season 0-2, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 1-1, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 0-1: 3 seed (maybe 2, probably good enough but I can see us being punished a bit)
Reg season 1-1, KC 1 to 3 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 1 to 2 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 3-0: 1 seed (yes, think we would/could)
I think beating OU unofficially officially shuts the door on sliding to a four seed. After that its pretty complex with jockeying for position with UT and BU. I am not sure how Zaga comes into play.
In general agree, but really any win (OU, @WV, KC) does that. I think sliding to 4 is a lot though if we end 0-3.
I think we're going to be a 2 or a 3 unless we win out, and a 2 is very ahievable given we're there right now, and the win @OSU realistically pushed to solidly into it
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 27, 2023, 11:12:14 AM
i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
How ticketmaster handles NCAA tournament tickets hasn't changed a single bit in the last 20 years. The NCAA aren't interested in playing the same games that concert promoters are. To their credit, the NCAA does a great job of getting tickets in the hands of fans.
well see that's good to know. As someone who hasn't had any reason to worry about going to an NCAA game the last few years I'm sure you can understand why one might be concerned that their ticketmaster experience for NCAA tickets might be similar to their ticketmaster experience for concert tickets.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 27, 2023, 11:14:52 AM
I easily got tickets to Charlotte against Creighton through KSU. Different team, different times.i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
I don't know what Ticketmaster has to do with this.
Oh, well, ticketmaster would be where you would get your NCAA tournament tickets and ticketmaster is also where you pretty much have no choice but to get your concert venue tickets and ticketmaster is ticketmaster so maybe you could understand why someone might be confused that ticketmaster doesn't handle their business the same for NCAA tournament games as they do for concerts...does that maybe help you better understand what i was getting at?
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2023, 11:18:53 AM
I easily got tickets to Charlotte against Creighton through KSU. Different team, different times.i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
I don't know what Ticketmaster has to do with this.
Oh, well, ticketmaster would be where you would get your NCAA tournament tickets and ticketmaster is also where you pretty much have no choice but to get your concert venue tickets and ticketmaster is ticketmaster so maybe you could understand why someone might be confused that ticketmaster doesn't handle their business the same for NCAA tournament games as they do for concerts...does that maybe help you better understand what i was getting at?
yes it does. But honestly I don't see the issue with like Taylor Swift as much of a Ticketmaster issue as it is a supply and demand issue. but I didn't get too worked up about it.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 27, 2023, 11:29:47 AM
I easily got tickets to Charlotte against Creighton through KSU. Different team, different times.i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
I don't know what Ticketmaster has to do with this.
Oh, well, ticketmaster would be where you would get your NCAA tournament tickets and ticketmaster is also where you pretty much have no choice but to get your concert venue tickets and ticketmaster is ticketmaster so maybe you could understand why someone might be confused that ticketmaster doesn't handle their business the same for NCAA tournament games as they do for concerts...does that maybe help you better understand what i was getting at?
yes it does. But honestly I don't see the issue with like Taylor Swift as much of a Ticketmaster issue as it is a supply and demand issue. but I didn't get too worked up about it.
I'm not sure what supply and demand has to do with it...unless you are suggesting that $10,000 is a legit fair market value for a Taylor Swift concert ticket that the free market will bear (without ticketmaster holding its thumb on the scales)? Its a moot point because as MIR pointed out, none of that matters when an entity as powerful as the NCAA steps in and tells ticketmaster they will not be playing any stupid games with their variable market demand algo. No other such agency exists with that kind of ability (or willingness) to tell ticketmaster/livenation to not be dicks. And yes that includes the artists themselves, see: Pearl Jam, et al.
The issue here is that i did not realize that the NCAA, specifically, had laid down the law on ticketmaster. full stop. if i had known that, i wouldn't have made my comment in the first place.
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2023, 11:32:14 AM
I easily got tickets to Charlotte against Creighton through KSU. Different team, different times.i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
I don't know what Ticketmaster has to do with this.
Oh, well, ticketmaster would be where you would get your NCAA tournament tickets and ticketmaster is also where you pretty much have no choice but to get your concert venue tickets and ticketmaster is ticketmaster so maybe you could understand why someone might be confused that ticketmaster doesn't handle their business the same for NCAA tournament games as they do for concerts...does that maybe help you better understand what i was getting at?
yes it does. But honestly I don't see the issue with like Taylor Swift as much of a Ticketmaster issue as it is a supply and demand issue. but I didn't get too worked up about it.
I'm not sure what supply and demand has to do with it...unless you are suggesting that $10,000 is a legit fair market value for a Taylor Swift concert ticket that the free market will bear (without ticketmaster holding its thumb on the scales)?
yes I do think it is a legit fair market value for some Taylor Swift tickets in some markets
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 27, 2023, 11:37:42 AM
I easily got tickets to Charlotte against Creighton through KSU. Different team, different times.i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
I don't know what Ticketmaster has to do with this.
Oh, well, ticketmaster would be where you would get your NCAA tournament tickets and ticketmaster is also where you pretty much have no choice but to get your concert venue tickets and ticketmaster is ticketmaster so maybe you could understand why someone might be confused that ticketmaster doesn't handle their business the same for NCAA tournament games as they do for concerts...does that maybe help you better understand what i was getting at?
yes it does. But honestly I don't see the issue with like Taylor Swift as much of a Ticketmaster issue as it is a supply and demand issue. but I didn't get too worked up about it.
I'm not sure what supply and demand has to do with it...unless you are suggesting that $10,000 is a legit fair market value for a Taylor Swift concert ticket that the free market will bear (without ticketmaster holding its thumb on the scales)?
yes I do think it is a legit fair market value for some Taylor Swift tickets in some markets
well, alright then. With that bit of context, I now fully understand your bemusement over my original statement WRT ticketmaster.
Post by: Skipper44 on February 27, 2023, 01:33:06 PM
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Post by: kstater on February 27, 2023, 04:18:52 PM
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Post by: Pete on February 27, 2023, 05:20:53 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/bracketology-purdue-slips-after-loss-to-indiana-holds-on-to-final-no-1-seed-in-ncaa-tournament-projection/
Post by: Pete on March 06, 2023, 08:12:18 AM
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2023-march-madness-men-field-predictions
Post by: wetwillie on March 06, 2023, 08:22:17 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 06, 2023, 10:49:29 AM
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Post by: Pete on March 06, 2023, 10:59:54 AM
Post by: mocat on March 06, 2023, 11:23:28 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 06, 2023, 11:27:31 AM
Absolute NCAA tournament nightmare fuel for K-State, shits actually hilarious
(https://i.ibb.co/vqX56hn/Screenshot-20230306-101258.png)
thanks i hate it
Post by: star seed 7 on March 06, 2023, 01:20:54 PM
Post by: Pete on March 06, 2023, 01:54:30 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/bracketology-houston-purdue-rally-for-wins-to-remain-no-1-seeds-entering-conference-tournaments/
Post by: cfbandyman on March 06, 2023, 02:39:16 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 06, 2023, 02:49:32 PM
Post by: Justwin on March 06, 2023, 03:01:32 PM
I truly don't understand how Baylor continues to be ranked above us and getting projected as a 2 seed. Their loss on Saturday was arguably the worst in loss in the conference this season. They're scuffling a bit right now.
Baylor's non-conference schedule was a fair bit better than ours.
Post by: wetwillie on March 06, 2023, 03:05:04 PM
I truly don't understand how Baylor continues to be ranked above us and getting projected as a 2 seed. Their loss on Saturday was arguably the worst in loss in the conference this season. They're scuffling a bit right now.
Have two more quad 1 wins and are perfect against quad 2
Post by: MakeItRain on March 06, 2023, 03:09:44 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 06, 2023, 03:13:09 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 06, 2023, 03:54:38 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on March 06, 2023, 04:20:03 PM
Both fair points, neither speak to what kind of basketball team they are, right now.
Or even H2H, oh well, not going to be too upset about that quirk of things, it's not too egregious
Post by: mocat on March 06, 2023, 04:49:42 PM
I truly don't understand how Baylor continues to be ranked above us and getting projected as a 2 seed. Their loss on Saturday was arguably the worst in loss in the conference this season. They're scuffling a bit right now.
baylor's noncon was top 3rd, ours was bottom 3rd. if they look like crap in the p66 and we play to seed, i'd imagine we'll switch seeds for the ncaa torny
Post by: wetwillie on March 06, 2023, 06:28:14 PM
I truly don't understand how Baylor continues to be ranked above us and getting projected as a 2 seed. Their loss on Saturday was arguably the worst in loss in the conference this season. They're scuffling a bit right now.
baylor's noncon was top 3rd, ours was bottom 3rd. if they look like crap in the p66 and we play to seed, i'd imagine we'll switch seeds for the ncaa torny
Where does snowbrag basketball edition have us seeded for the dance?
Post by: mocat on March 06, 2023, 08:25:18 PM
Post by: catastrophe on March 07, 2023, 12:41:18 AM
Post by: KITNfury on March 07, 2023, 04:54:03 AM
2 just seems so much cooler than 3. I really want that 2 spot.Me too dude
Post by: cfbandyman on March 07, 2023, 08:57:51 AM
2 just seems so much cooler than 3. I really want that 2 spot.Me too dude
I think we will if we win at least 1 tourny game, if we win 2 we are a lock IMO
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 07, 2023, 09:05:29 AM
Post by: deputy dawg on March 07, 2023, 11:05:40 AM
I truly don't understand how Baylor continues to be ranked above us and getting projected as a 2 seed. Their loss on Saturday was arguably the worst in loss in the conference this season. They're scuffling a bit right now.
baylor's noncon was top 3rd, ours was bottom 3rd. if they look like crap in the p66 and we play to seed, i'd imagine we'll switch seeds for the ncaa torny
"Torny" :D
Post by: Pete on March 07, 2023, 08:28:09 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 11, 2023, 04:31:26 PM
About 24 hrs until we see the brackets. The very best part of the sports year is about to begin. This is the sports equivalent of biting into the cap of a juicy ribeye steak.
Post by: wetwillie on March 11, 2023, 04:32:31 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 11, 2023, 04:37:03 PM
The YouTube weather dudes are saying it's setting up to potentially dump 2 feet over parts of NY
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 11, 2023, 05:26:38 PM
There's a pretty solid chance there's going to death storm 2023 in NY next Wed-Thur-Fri.
The YouTube weather dudes are saying it's setting up to potentially dump 2 feet over parts of NY
we play amaze during death storms.
Post by: Pete on March 11, 2023, 06:08:06 PM
There's a pretty solid chance there's going to death storm 2023 in NY next Wed-Thur-Fri.
The YouTube weather dudes are saying it's setting up to potentially dump 2 feet over parts of NY
we play amaze during death storms.
Only two things to do in Albany in a snow storm. Win basketball games and give blowjobs to tow truck drivers. And brother, my car just got towed to the Albany MVP Arena parking lot.
Post by: michigancat on March 11, 2023, 06:37:53 PM
You guys think Rusty says it like an east coaster now? Twornament.You know what other surprising east coast accent thing I've observed? Pronouncing "forward" as "foe-ward"
Post by: wetwillie on March 11, 2023, 06:48:00 PM
Post by: mocat on March 11, 2023, 07:32:05 PM
4 seed in Albany
That's the dream
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 11, 2023, 09:30:50 PM
Rusty and BAC licking their chops right now
Albany is practically Canada
Post by: Spracne on March 11, 2023, 09:32:39 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 11, 2023, 09:49:27 PM
https://twitter.com/coachreem4ever/status/1634762855831461889?s=46&t=mePkKn6StVV98h2WF84F2g
Post by: Spracne on March 11, 2023, 09:51:41 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 12, 2023, 06:46:00 AM
Rusty and BAC licking their chops right now
Albany is practically Canada
Yea it’s like 27 bus transfers from Queens
Post by: michigancat on March 12, 2023, 07:30:02 AM
Post by: michigancat on March 12, 2023, 08:06:56 AM
In theory I can do a subway to Grand Central to Albany but for some reason the Albany arena is a 30 minute walk from the train station so I will probably driveAlso tickets are $90-130 one way :sdeek:
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 12, 2023, 08:23:28 AM
When are the actual brackets being announced? Not the pre-game show, but the actual brackets?5pm Central Time
Post by: mocat on March 12, 2023, 04:56:26 PM
In theory I can do a subway to Grand Central to Albany but for some reason the Albany arena is a 30 minute walk from the train station so I will probably driveAlso tickets are $90-130 one way :sdeek:
America
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 12, 2023, 05:03:41 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 12, 2023, 05:09:50 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 12, 2023, 05:11:49 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 12, 2023, 05:12:01 PM
UHHHHHHHHHHKU snubbed of the overall #1 :frown:
Doesn't matter. We'll get the #1 in the Midwest, which is what does matter.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 12, 2023, 05:13:08 PM
UHHHHHHHHHHKU snubbed of the overall #1 :frown:
Doesn't matter. We'll get the #1 in the Midwest, which is what does matter.
ouch
Post by: williamthewildcat on March 12, 2023, 05:13:34 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 12, 2023, 05:16:53 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 12, 2023, 05:17:45 PM
NoooooooooooooAt least Texas is in the Midwest
Post by: williamthewildcat on March 12, 2023, 05:27:24 PM
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Post by: konofo on March 12, 2023, 05:33:19 PM
kono
Post by: williamthewildcat on March 12, 2023, 05:33:44 PM
Post by: konofo on March 12, 2023, 05:33:55 PM
kono
Post by: michigancat on March 12, 2023, 05:34:07 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on March 12, 2023, 05:34:25 PM
Post by: konofo on March 12, 2023, 05:35:12 PM
kono
Post by: cfbandyman on March 12, 2023, 05:35:28 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 12, 2023, 05:35:36 PM
MSG!!!!!
This is how I envisioned myself reacting when the cats got the 3 seed in the Midwest a few weeks ago. Congrats.
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 12, 2023, 05:38:05 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 12, 2023, 05:40:03 PM
Sure, Kentucky, why not.
kono
Don't sleep on the Friars.
Post by: catastrophe on March 12, 2023, 05:40:09 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 12, 2023, 06:00:37 PM
If you're thinking about going, I suggest flying into RDU or CLT and renting a car.
Post by: CHONGS on March 12, 2023, 07:05:15 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on March 12, 2023, 07:30:13 PM
Post by: konofo on March 12, 2023, 07:36:53 PM
Dream scenario for me at leastNot so much for me, looks like I'll be enjoying this one on a JetBlue flight back from spring break.
kono
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 12, 2023, 08:05:26 PM
Glad to see that they have gone back to calling the first round games first round games instead of calling the "First Four" games first round games. That drove me nuts.
I would prefer if they called them 0th round games
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 12, 2023, 09:14:04 PM
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Post by: sys on March 12, 2023, 10:20:04 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 12, 2023, 10:20:54 PM
Post by: Pete on March 12, 2023, 10:55:00 PM
i feel like osu should have made the cut.Both Palm and Lunardi agree with you. And so do I.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 13, 2023, 09:42:22 AM
If it was Gene on the committee and not Jamie Pollard they would haveAgree
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 13, 2023, 09:42:56 AM
I just don’t want the game during dinner on Friday
Would prefer an afternoon tip but whatev
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 13, 2023, 09:54:17 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 13, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
It's kinda late.. I almost feel asleep at the T-Mobile center during our beloved cats game.
same. Is it just a thing that KSU fans are young and party like 4rock stars/super models? jfc man I need my shut eye
Post by: CHONGS on March 13, 2023, 06:23:30 PM
does anyone have a printable bracket with first round tip off times included?
Post by: Pete on March 13, 2023, 06:25:47 PM
HEY
does anyone have a printable bracket with first round tip off times included?
Sounds like someone is in charge of decorating the break room.
Post by: catastrophe on March 13, 2023, 07:15:03 PM
Post by: ben ji on March 13, 2023, 09:01:22 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 13, 2023, 10:02:43 PM
if not, does anyone have elite bracket advice to offer for free?
Post by: catastrophe on March 13, 2023, 10:15:54 PM
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=2023+printable+bracket+with+tip+off+times+includedIt ain’t in the top 5 results of that search bud
Post by: MakeItRain on March 13, 2023, 11:14:17 PM
HEY
does anyone have a printable bracket with first round tip off times included?
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/mml-official-bracket/2023-03-12/2023-ncaa-printable-bracket-schedule-march-madness
Best I've seen, maybe you can print the bracket and put the schedule underneath, or write the times in? Most sites, other than the gambling sites, are just linking to the NCAA brackets. I didn't see a gambling site that even had the days, at least the NCAA bracket has that.
Post by: tdaver on March 13, 2023, 11:32:13 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 14, 2023, 01:04:10 PM
Post by: catastrophe on March 14, 2023, 01:13:37 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 14, 2023, 04:02:18 PM
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/boscoes-boys/id1361339892?i=1000604107169
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 14, 2023, 08:03:46 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 15, 2023, 11:55:27 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cp0RXU_u4eH/
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 15, 2023, 11:56:45 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 15, 2023, 12:02:05 PM
Post by: Cire on March 15, 2023, 12:55:14 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2023, 09:17:15 AM
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 16, 2023, 09:26:15 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2023, 09:29:54 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on March 16, 2023, 09:32:18 AM
Houston - is Houston
Kansas - we all know they normally choke
Purdue - not sold on them at all
This seems like a year where the final four may not have a single #1 in it
Post by: KSNimrod on March 16, 2023, 09:57:44 AM
Don't think this has been posted yet
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
Did I miss the magic password somewhere?
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 16, 2023, 10:01:40 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 16, 2023, 10:03:40 AM
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2023, 10:22:53 AM
Post by: Trim on March 16, 2023, 10:24:59 AM
In the immortal words of beems - I will be watching basketball all day froggot"
Merry christmas to all who celebrate.
Post by: schreds21 on March 16, 2023, 10:35:40 AM
Don't think this has been posted yetThanks MIR! Been trying to find this!
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 16, 2023, 10:37:34 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 16, 2023, 10:53:09 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2023, 11:00:49 AM
Got mine in there but hooooooly crap I don’t have a feel for it at all. Which probably means I’ll win
It's wide open, this year, boss. Alabama seems to be the best team but, for a million reasons, no one wants to pick them.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 16, 2023, 11:03:16 AM
I picked Bama... I hate them so much but I picked em.Got mine in there but hooooooly crap I don’t have a feel for it at all. Which probably means I’ll win
It's wide open, this year, boss. Alabama seems to be the best team but, for a million reasons, no one wants to pick them.
Post by: OK_Cat on March 16, 2023, 11:05:24 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 16, 2023, 11:17:00 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2023, 01:13:48 PM
I picked Houston but i don’t really watch non-Big XII games until the tourney so i know nothing about anything
Their best player got hurt in the AAC semifinal, he didn't play in the championship game and they got absolutely murdered by Memphis. No one knows whether or not he's playing in the tournament which means he probably isn't. That being said, I have them losing to UT in the elite 8.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2023, 01:52:09 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 16, 2023, 01:53:04 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 16, 2023, 01:53:09 PM
Great shot
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 16, 2023, 01:53:25 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2023, 01:55:57 PM
Post by: MadCat on March 16, 2023, 01:58:45 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 16, 2023, 02:49:22 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2023, 02:53:59 PM
Good pick, MIR!
Saved me from an 0-3 start
Post by: stunted on March 16, 2023, 03:26:35 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 16, 2023, 05:47:16 PM
Post by: TaqMan on March 16, 2023, 07:18:41 PM
Post by: schreds21 on March 16, 2023, 10:17:19 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2023, 10:21:05 PM
Also has buzz always been such a nerdy vest dweeb or did he just start and I never noticed?
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 16, 2023, 10:29:24 PM
Does Houston recruit well? I haven't paid attention to non-ksu basketball in yearsI would assume Houston doesn’t have a bunch of 1-2 stars.
Also has buzz always been such a nerdy vest dweeb or did he just start and I never noticed?
I think you maybe have been more focused on :Rusty: to notice.
Post by: mocat on March 16, 2023, 10:58:51 PM
https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1636506759434063873?s=20
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2023, 11:07:47 PM
Does Houston recruit well? I haven't paid attention to non-ksu basketball in years
Also has buzz always been such a nerdy vest dweeb or did he just start and I never noticed?
Yes and yes.
Houston are generally top 30 in recruiting under Kelvin. That being said their two best players, Shead and Sasser are both 3 stars and Sasser was recruited in the only class in the last five that wasn't in the top 30. His team is crazy old, he's done a good job holding onto and developing his guys.
Buzz wore those vests all the way back to Marquette, just not as frequently
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/10/01/PMJS/ba6d09e4-ede7-4349-9aae-0cf3f2306ece-MJS_mumen11_spt_sieu_16_mumen11.jpg?width=660&height=567&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 16, 2023, 11:09:15 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2023, 11:10:37 PM
Cool
https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1636506759434063873?s=20
More soccer connections
https://twitter.com/M_Henderson98/status/1636551470610022400
Post by: Pete on March 17, 2023, 07:28:46 AM
Quote
The loss dropped Virginia's record against double-digit seeds to just 3-4 over its last seven opportunities, a stretch which includes the program's historic 2018 loss to No. 16 seed UMBC and marked the fourth time in Virginia's last five NCAA Tournament appearances that it has lost to a No. 13 seed or worse.
...and totally forgot that they won it all in 2019. I'm sure their fans are bummed, and it sucks that people like me only remember the losses, but that title 2019 is pretty great.
Post by: stunted on March 17, 2023, 08:50:07 AM
So I was talking to a friend last night about how "Virginia lost AGAIN early in the tournament"...QuoteThe loss dropped Virginia's record against double-digit seeds to just 3-4 over its last seven opportunities, a stretch which includes the program's historic 2018 loss to No. 16 seed UMBC and marked the fourth time in Virginia's last five NCAA Tournament appearances that it has lost to a No. 13 seed or worse.
...and totally forgot that they won it all in 2019. I'm sure their fans are bummed, and it sucks that people like me only remember the losses, but that title 2019 is pretty great.
Kind of like it’s ok to have some bad seasons when you have a coach that can win big 12s and go to an elite 8, but I guess we’re just making up excuses as we go
Post by: schreds21 on March 17, 2023, 08:52:31 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 17, 2023, 09:20:15 AM
Having a bad tournament result is not a bad season. Not even being invited to ANY postseason tournaments is a bad season.
you say that like it happened several years in a row or something
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2023, 10:21:46 AM
Post by: schreds21 on March 17, 2023, 11:22:14 AM
It's possibleHaving a bad tournament result is not a bad season. Not even being invited to ANY postseason tournaments is a bad season.
you say that like it happened several years in a row or something
Post by: MakeItRain on March 17, 2023, 11:40:36 AM
I suppose there might be a handful of coaches that “choke” in the tourney with regular appearances at the 4 seed or above but I doubt it’s very many. If you show up to the dance with a good seed consistently you will make a deep run.
That shits gonna happen when there's limited possessions, they leave inferior competition in the game.
I don't know how anyone could forget their championship, it was one of the best championship games of all time. Kind of a tech choke job.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 17, 2023, 01:38:44 PM
Post by: mocat on March 17, 2023, 02:03:44 PM
- ranked #298 out of 363 schools in kenpom
- have only played 1 game vs a top 100 opponent all year long (#77 pittsburgh in november).
- have played 35 games, and only 7 of those were vs teams in the top 300 (went 1-6)
- again is named "Fairleigh Dickinson"
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2023, 02:49:52 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 17, 2023, 03:03:51 PM
I normally TSC but eff ISU, I hope they lose by 30
How do you have 2 points almost half way through the first half? Embarrassing
Post by: Cire on March 17, 2023, 03:04:18 PM
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 17, 2023, 03:06:15 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2023, 03:06:57 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 17, 2023, 03:22:58 PM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on March 17, 2023, 03:38:13 PM
some fun facts about Purdue's first round opponent, which is something called "Fairleigh Dickinson":
- ranked #298 out of 363 schools in kenpom
- have only played 1 game vs a top 100 opponent all year long (#77 pittsburgh in november).
- have played 35 games, and only 7 of those were vs teams in the top 300 (went 1-6)
- again is named "Fairleigh Dickinson"
I - any many old EMAWs - had a similar experience in 2001 when Wooly's second team beat FD 88-45 (I vaguely remembered that it was a beatdown, but didn't realize it was that bad).
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 17, 2023, 04:38:55 PM
ISU might lead at halftime.Clones are putrid.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 17, 2023, 04:39:41 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 17, 2023, 04:43:04 PM
Post by: sys on March 17, 2023, 04:44:21 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 17, 2023, 05:33:55 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 17, 2023, 05:39:55 PM
That mold aggie game is kind of our nightmare scenario right? Can't buy a bucket and we melt. Hope it doesn't happen
I can't imagine us being that incompetent at scoring. Could see us giving up 40 points off turnovers, but we will run the floor and score points.
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2023, 05:40:52 PM
That mold aggie game is kind of our nightmare scenario right? Can't buy a bucket and we melt. Hope it doesn't happen
Our nightmare is KJ picking up two early fouls. Can’t envision losing unless he’s sitting on the bench.
Post by: mocat on March 17, 2023, 06:26:31 PM
Post by: KITNfury on March 17, 2023, 06:33:53 PM
That mold aggie game is kind of our nightmare scenario right? Can't buy a bucket and we melt. Hope it doesn't happenThat's every team's nightmare. Ridiculously ice freaking cold shooting.
Post by: CHONGS on March 17, 2023, 06:41:40 PM
Post by: mocat on March 17, 2023, 06:49:11 PM
some fun facts about Purdue's first round opponent, which is something called "Fairleigh Dickinson":
- ranked #298 out of 363 schools in kenpom
- have only played 1 game vs a top 100 opponent all year long (#77 pittsburgh in november).
- have played 35 games, and only 7 of those were vs teams in the top 300 (went 1-6)
- again is named "Fairleigh Dickinson"
Purdoop or whatever is losing to by far the worst team in the torny
Post by: Spracne on March 17, 2023, 06:49:45 PM
Does providence have a good big? If not go Providence
Do not, under any circumstances, sleep on the Friars.
Post by: mocat on March 17, 2023, 06:51:25 PM
Does providence have a good big? If not go Providence
Do not, under any circumstances, sleep on the Friars.
Whatever, Tuck
Post by: Spracne on March 17, 2023, 06:53:42 PM
Does providence have a good big? If not go Providence
Do not, under any circumstances, sleep on the Friars.
Whatever, Tuck
Ok, but do so at your own risk. Mwahahahaha.
Post by: sys on March 17, 2023, 07:11:04 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2023, 07:11:35 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 17, 2023, 07:31:53 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2023, 07:44:56 PM
Post by: KITNfury on March 17, 2023, 07:45:41 PM
that purdue big is rough ridin' big.Yea I don't really watch non cat bball games and I was like WTF when started watching this one. rough ridin' Goliath
Post by: mocat on March 17, 2023, 07:47:34 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 17, 2023, 07:49:42 PM
Post by: sys on March 17, 2023, 07:54:14 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2023, 08:07:34 PM
Post by: sys on March 17, 2023, 08:08:29 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 17, 2023, 08:10:36 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 17, 2023, 08:14:20 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 17, 2023, 08:16:21 PM
Post by: CHONGS on March 17, 2023, 08:18:08 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2023, 08:20:28 PM
Prior to the end of the Purdue game, there were only 24 perfect brackets remaining. After the Purdue game that dropped to…22. I suspect shenanigansThat's an lol stat, sounds made up
Post by: star seed 7 on March 17, 2023, 08:22:13 PM
You do NOT want to be a one seed in kstate's bracket.
Said this irl to 'clams
Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2023, 08:31:36 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 17, 2023, 08:31:49 PM
https://twitter.com/John_Fanta/status/1636898519276748801?s=20
Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2023, 08:35:14 PM
LOLsome fun facts about Purdue's first round opponent, which is something called "Fairleigh Dickinson":
- ranked #298 out of 363 schools in kenpom
- have only played 1 game vs a top 100 opponent all year long (#77 pittsburgh in november).
- have played 35 games, and only 7 of those were vs teams in the top 300 (went 1-6)
- again is named "Fairleigh Dickinson"
Purdoop or whatever is losing to by far the worst team in the torny
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1636903770616483840?t=1zt0F2OfdxsRoMZjEW-FPQ&s=19
Post by: schreds21 on March 17, 2023, 08:39:15 PM
some fun facts about Purdue's first round opponent, which is something called "Fairleigh Dickinson":Apparently none of that crap matters in The Big Dance
- ranked #298 out of 363 schools in kenpom
- have only played 1 game vs a top 100 opponent all year long (#77 pittsburgh in november).
- have played 35 games, and only 7 of those were vs teams in the top 300 (went 1-6)
- again is named "Fairleigh Dickinson"
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 17, 2023, 08:50:49 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 17, 2023, 08:55:20 PM
https://twitter.com/LawdCroatiko/status/1636900355819597825?s=20
Post by: tdaver on March 17, 2023, 09:57:43 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 17, 2023, 11:00:56 PM
some fun facts about Purdue's first round opponent, which is something called "Fairleigh Dickinson":
- ranked #298 out of 363 schools in kenpom
- have only played 1 game vs a top 100 opponent all year long (#77 pittsburgh in november).
- have played 35 games, and only 7 of those were vs teams in the top 300 (went 1-6)
- again is named "Fairleigh Dickinson"
2-6 :gocho:
Post by: mocat on March 17, 2023, 11:07:03 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2023, 11:10:35 PM
Post by: stunted on March 17, 2023, 11:21:15 PM
Post by: kstater on March 17, 2023, 11:25:16 PM
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Post by: mocat on March 17, 2023, 11:26:08 PM
Post by: sys on March 17, 2023, 11:26:31 PM
Post by: stunted on March 17, 2023, 11:27:36 PM
Easy flight to Denver. Greensboro? Not so much
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there was like 50x more people there
Post by: star seed 7 on March 17, 2023, 11:27:49 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2023, 11:29:13 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2023, 11:30:36 PM
why is there so many more fans at the tcu game than our game? tcu doesn't even care about basketball. and probably neither does asu.Time zones
Post by: CHONGS on March 17, 2023, 11:31:14 PM
Post by: mocat on March 17, 2023, 11:36:50 PM
Just tell him what he wants to hear and maybe he'll move on to something else.I'm not 100% sure what the angle is this time
Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2023, 11:42:00 PM
TCU has better fansJust tell him what he wants to hear and maybe he'll move on to something else.I'm not 100% sure what the angle is this time
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2023, 12:19:00 AM
Easy flight to Denver. Greensboro? Not so much
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there was like 50x more people there
Because Kentucky fans bought like 10,000 tickets to our session and our game started at 10:00PM local time, obviously they didn't want to stay and watch.
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2023, 09:03:41 AM
#275 Fairleigh Dickinson (16)
#22 Florida Atlantic (9)
#16 Duke (5)
#6 Tennessee (4)
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#24 Kentucky (6)
#23 Kansas State (3)
#28 Michigan State (7)
#10 Marquette (2)
kenpom predictos:
Duke 61
Tennessee 64
Kansas State 74
Kentucky 73
Michigan State 70
Marquette 73
Fairleigh Dickinson 67
Florida Atlantic 86
Post by: pissclams on March 18, 2023, 09:09:11 AM
advanced stats lol, but I guess the only stat that matters is the one in the w/l column
go back to geometry class, nerds lmao
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2023, 09:29:05 AM
after the first round, here are the remains of the East w/ kenpom ranks:
#288 Fairleigh Dickinson (16)
#22 Florida Atlantic (9)
#16 Duke (5)
#6 Tennessee (4)
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#24 Kentucky (6)
#23 Kansas State (3)
#28 Michigan State (7)
#10 Marquette (2)
kenpom predictos:
Duke 61
Tennessee 64
Kansas State 74
Kentucky 73
Michigan State 70
Marquette 73
Fairleigh Dickinson 67
Florida Atlantic 86
I was certain you mocat math’s FAU until I laid eyes on kenpom.com :sdeek:
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2023, 09:49:34 AM
#22 Florida Atlantic (9)
I was certain you mocat math’s FAU until I laid eyes on kenpom.com :sdeek:
32-3 is pretty impressive even in a 1-bid league
Post by: Pete on March 18, 2023, 10:14:20 AM
this tournament provides even more proof of exactly how big of a fraud that “ken pom” and his disciples like “ksu_FAN” are
advanced stats lol, but I guess the only stat that matters is the one in the w/l column
go back to geometry class, nerds lmao
Don't think I've ever seen a computer dive for a loose ball.
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2023, 10:18:31 AM
Post by: pissclams on March 18, 2023, 10:42:32 AM
this tournament provides even more proof of exactly how big of a fraud that “ken pom” and his disciples like “ksu_FAN” are
advanced stats lol, but I guess the only stat that matters is the one in the w/l column
go back to geometry class, nerds lmao
Don't think I've ever seen a computer dive for a loose ball.
lol nailed it.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 18, 2023, 12:32:55 PM
after the first round, here are the remains of the East w/ kenpom ranks:
#275 Fairleigh Dickinson (16)
#22 Florida Atlantic (9)
#16 Duke (5)
#6 Tennessee (4)
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#24 Kentucky (6)
#23 Kansas State (3)
#28 Michigan State (7)
#10 Marquette (2)
kenpom predictos:
Duke 61
Tennessee 64
Kansas State 74
Kentucky 73
Michigan State 70
Marquette 73
Fairleigh Dickinson 67
Florida Atlantic 86
tHe bENgaLs aRe AhEAd of tHe cHIefs iN SnoWBraG
Post by: Spracne on March 18, 2023, 12:56:20 PM
after the first round, here are the remains of the East w/ kenpom ranks:
#288 Fairleigh Dickinson (16)
#22 Florida Atlantic (9)
#16 Duke (5)
#6 Tennessee (4)
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#24 Kentucky (6)
#23 Kansas State (3)
#28 Michigan State (7)
#10 Marquette (2)
kenpom predictos:
Duke 61
Tennessee 64
Kansas State 74
Kentucky 73
Michigan State 70
Marquette 73
Fairleigh Dickinson 67
Florida Atlantic 86
I was certain you mocat math’s FAU until I laid eyes on kenpom.com :sdeek:
wetwillie, you might be a psycho. What kind of guy casually makes one meaningless change in a statistical post like this, and that change has nothing to do with what you were posting about? You changed FDU's KP rank from an already lol 275 to 288. Why? It's eating me up inside, and I'm a little creeped out.
Original, unaltered post below:
after the first round, here are the remains of the East w/ kenpom ranks:
#275 Fairleigh Dickinson (16)
#22 Florida Atlantic (9)
#16 Duke (5)
#6 Tennessee (4)
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#24 Kentucky (6)
#23 Kansas State (3)
#28 Michigan State (7)
#10 Marquette (2)
kenpom predictos:
Duke 61
Tennessee 64
Kansas State 74
Kentucky 73
Michigan State 70
Marquette 73
Fairleigh Dickinson 67
Florida Atlantic 86
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2023, 01:00:08 PM
We are two wins away from cRusty getting to watch the Cats play Duke in MSG to go to the final four. That right there gives me the goose pimples.
eff Duke.
Post by: Spracne on March 18, 2023, 01:00:30 PM
this tournament provides even more proof of exactly how big of a fraud that “ken pom” and his disciples like “ksu_FAN” are
advanced stats lol, but I guess the only stat that matters is the one in the w/l column
go back to geometry class, nerds lmao
Don't think I've ever seen a computer dive for a loose ball.
:D
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2023, 04:04:07 PM
We are two wins away from cRusty getting to watch the Cats play Duke in MSG to go to the final four. That right there gives me the goose pimples.
eff Duke.
Dreams over, time to sell the tickets.
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 18, 2023, 04:07:23 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2023, 04:10:00 PM
I expect this means tickets will be much cheaper so I ain't mad!!!We are two wins away from cRusty getting to watch the Cats play Duke in MSG to go to the final four. That right there gives me the goose pimples.
eff Duke.
Dreams over, time to sell the tickets.
Post by: sys on March 18, 2023, 06:18:25 PM
Post by: sys on March 18, 2023, 06:23:28 PM
Post by: sys on March 18, 2023, 06:26:14 PM
also neat that missouri is losing like a dog.
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 18, 2023, 06:38:31 PM
Arkansas seems like a hot team right now…:surprised:
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 18, 2023, 06:45:26 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 18, 2023, 06:46:28 PM
Post by: CHONGS on March 18, 2023, 06:48:12 PM
Post by: sys on March 18, 2023, 06:49:23 PM
For all the big 12 dick sucking that happened this season, there's a very high chance not a single team makes it past this weekend
the sec is looking pretty strong, but fortunately we have the big 12-sec challenge to fall back on.
Post by: CHONGS on March 18, 2023, 06:52:56 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 18, 2023, 06:53:50 PM
https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/1637240234222972930?s=46&t=mePkKn6StVV98h2WF84F2g
Post by: sys on March 18, 2023, 06:54:22 PM
With Mizzou on the way out, we're the last big 8 team left
:surprised:
Post by: sys on March 18, 2023, 07:00:08 PM
Post by: Pete on March 18, 2023, 07:52:41 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 18, 2023, 08:21:08 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2023, 08:22:52 PM
Did I really just see Willie Nelson use “On The Road Again” to promote CapitalOne’s credit cards???There is a good chance that you just saw one
Post by: Pete on March 18, 2023, 08:44:42 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 18, 2023, 08:52:41 PM
Post by: CHONGS on March 18, 2023, 08:59:34 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2023, 09:06:22 PM
Post by: Trim on March 18, 2023, 09:07:48 PM
There are players from both teams in this Texas game wearing one blue left shoe. What does that mean?
Which feet?
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 18, 2023, 09:08:17 PM
Post by: Pete on March 18, 2023, 09:18:01 PM
There are players from both teams in this Texas game wearing one blue left shoe. What does that mean?
Which feet?
Don't know their names. But, there are two guys who each have a blue shoe on their left foot, and an orange shoe on their right foot.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 18, 2023, 09:31:06 PM
Did I really just see Willie Nelson use “On The Road Again” to promote CapitalOne’s credit cards???
Willie will do anything for a paycheck these days.
Post by: Trim on March 18, 2023, 09:37:48 PM
There are players from both teams in this Texas game wearing one blue left shoe. What does that mean?
Which feet?
Don't know their names. But, there are two guys who each have a blue shoe on their left foot, and an orange shoe on their right foot.
Alright, well we know they didn't swap with each other then.
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2023, 09:41:49 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 18, 2023, 10:09:26 PM
Did I really just see Willie Nelson use “On The Road Again” to promote CapitalOne’s credit cards???
What is CapitalOne's marketing budget? They always have celebs in their commercials.
Post by: Pete on March 18, 2023, 10:24:00 PM
There are players from both teams in this Texas game wearing one blue left shoe. What does that mean?
Which feet?
Don't know their names. But, there are two guys who each have a blue shoe on their left foot, and an orange shoe on their right foot.
Alright, well we know they didn't swap with each other then.
That's what made it so spooky. A god damn secret society right in front of our eyes!
Post by: star seed 7 on March 18, 2023, 10:27:29 PM
Post by: Tobias on March 18, 2023, 10:29:43 PM
It's like the switch controllers
that was exactly what i was thinking
Post by: Pete on March 18, 2023, 10:30:34 PM
It's like the switch controllers
that was exactly what i was thinking
is that a gay thing?
Post by: Tobias on March 18, 2023, 10:31:26 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 18, 2023, 10:31:49 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 18, 2023, 10:33:04 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2023, 11:05:01 PM
For all the big 12 dick sucking that happened this season, there's a very high chance not a single team makes it past this weekend
It was factually correct that the Big 12 had the best Kenpom rating of all time, should that have just been ignored because of the possibility that Iowa State would get their crap rocked by a first four team?
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 18, 2023, 11:43:19 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2023, 12:10:42 AM
Seems like all the pre-dance obsession with seeding was just nonsense because of remarkable parity. Actual results suggest you can throw a net over the top 30 or more teams. So many games are coming down to which team can make free throws or a late 3. It like a PGA golf tournament where the winner could be any one of 20-30 golfers, tho a select few are more consistent, as opposed to tennis where the top seeds always seem to win majors unless injored.
We've known since January that there haven't been a dominant, well outside of the top two seeds, who have breezed through their first two games. If anything a lot of people owe three committee a whole lot of apologies. The 1 seeds were right and in the right order, Duke wasn't better than the 5 they got, and Pitt earned their spot in the tournament.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 19, 2023, 08:52:41 AM
Marketing budget is probably north of eleventy billion. Their March Madness commercials with Chuck, Spike Lee and Samuel L Jackson are clever and hilarious. The rest of their marketing is tedious and awful eg the guy in the “Capital One Cafe.”Did I really just see Willie Nelson use “On The Road Again” to promote CapitalOne’s credit cards???
What is CapitalOne's marketing budget? They always have celebs in their commercials.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2023, 10:47:47 AM
Marketing budget is probably north of eleventy billion. Their March Madness commercials with Chuck, Spike Lee and Samuel L Jackson are clever and hilarious. The rest of their marketing is tedious and awful eg the guy in the “Capital One Cafe.”Did I really just see Willie Nelson use “On The Road Again” to promote CapitalOne’s credit cards???
What is CapitalOne's marketing budget? They always have celebs in their commercials.
That Taylor Swift commercial :love:
Post by: sys on March 19, 2023, 04:27:15 PM
i kinda think we need them both. 3 of 16 wouldn't be that impressive for the supposed best conference in america.
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2023, 04:37:45 PM
does the big 12 need both baylor and tcu to advance in order to claim a successful first weekend or would one of the two be enough?
i kinda think we need them both. 3 of 16 wouldn't be that impressive for the supposed best conference in america.
Yea 4 would solidify it
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2023, 04:40:11 PM
Post by: sys on March 19, 2023, 04:41:38 PM
Post by: CHONGS on March 19, 2023, 04:54:21 PM
can't count on isu, obviously. but ku really let us down. they have that weird thing with their coach though, so i guess we can't be mad.Yeah that should really count as 1/2 a team.
Post by: pissclams on March 19, 2023, 05:06:42 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2023, 05:45:48 PM
the big 12 was the best conference this season, there was no “supposed” about it. that doesn’t mean that other teams aren’t good too.
Bingo. I don't give a flying eff who else advances, we did, and history will reflect that the Big 12 conference was the best conference this season, regardless. The only thing left to wonder about is if the Big 12 will have a team in the fourth straight Duval four and/or win a third straight national championship.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 19, 2023, 05:53:23 PM
can't count on isu, obviously. but ku really let us down. they have that weird thing with their coach though, so i guess we can't be mad.Yeah that should really count as 1/2 a team.
It was bad season management on the part of coach self. Like sir, you’ve been at this for many years, you know it’s a marathon not a sprint, and you decided to keep the pedal to the metal to win the confy, but ran outta gas when it mattered most.
Post by: CHONGS on March 19, 2023, 06:28:20 PM
Post by: CHONGS on March 19, 2023, 06:35:13 PM
Let's start the old washed up coach burial tour.Keep it rolling
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2023, 06:38:29 PM
Post by: sys on March 19, 2023, 07:32:49 PM
the big 12 was the best conference this season, there was no “supposed” about it. that doesn’t mean that other teams aren’t good too.
Bingo. I don't give a flying eff who else advances, we did, and history will reflect that the Big 12 conference was the best conference this season, regardless. The only thing left to wonder about is if the Big 12 will have a team in the fourth straight Duval four and/or win a third straight national championship.
admirable sentiments to be sure, but i don't think anyone but kenpom and ksufan and maybe a few other advanced stats nerds are going to care about who beat coppin state by more in december. the world according to the casual fan about town is going to go by tournament results, and unless baylor can get this turned around quick, it's going to be iffy for the big 12.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2023, 07:40:00 PM
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2023, 07:40:56 PM
Wow, you called it.Let's start the old washed up coach burial tour.Keep it rolling
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2023, 07:51:44 PM
3 teams is 30% of the conference. That's good enough. Saying we weren't really the best because we couldn't get 40% of our conference into the sweet 16 is just ridiculous.
We need some help from the horny toads to even get 3, Baylor got smoked.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2023, 07:57:48 PM
3 teams is 30% of the conference. That's good enough. Saying we weren't really the best because we couldn't get 40% of our conference into the sweet 16 is just ridiculous.
We need some help from the horny toads to even get 3, Baylor got smoked.
Yeah, 2 would be disappointing. 3 would be a lot better than anyone else did.
Post by: pissclams on March 19, 2023, 08:02:24 PM
how does any of this have anything to do with you questioning the strength of the b12? also, i’m curious if you think that the best team always wins in the tournamentthe big 12 was the best conference this season, there was no “supposed” about it. that doesn’t mean that other teams aren’t good too.
Bingo. I don't give a flying eff who else advances, we did, and history will reflect that the Big 12 conference was the best conference this season, regardless. The only thing left to wonder about is if the Big 12 will have a team in the fourth straight Duval four and/or win a third straight national championship.
admirable sentiments to be sure, but i don't think anyone but kenpom and ksufan and maybe a few other advanced stats nerds are going to care about who beat coppin state by more in december. the world according to the casual fan about town is going to go by tournament results, and unless baylor can get this turned around quick, it's going to be iffy for the big 12.
Post by: CHONGS on March 19, 2023, 08:13:32 PM
SEC got in three.3 teams is 30% of the conference. That's good enough. Saying we weren't really the best because we couldn't get 40% of our conference into the sweet 16 is just ridiculous.
We need some help from the horny toads to even get 3, Baylor got smoked.
Yeah, 2 would be disappointing. 3 would be a lot better than anyone else did.
Post by: sys on March 19, 2023, 08:15:29 PM
Yeah, 2 would be disappointing. 3 would be a lot better than anyone else did.
the sec already has three. and the big ten can still get three.
Post by: sys on March 19, 2023, 08:19:12 PM
how does any of this have anything to do with you questioning the strength of the b12? also, i’m curious if you think that the best team always wins in the tournament
i believed baylor was going to stage a dramatic comeback until the very end. but they didn't.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2023, 08:25:12 PM
The SEC has 14 schools.SEC got in three.3 teams is 30% of the conference. That's good enough. Saying we weren't really the best because we couldn't get 40% of our conference into the sweet 16 is just ridiculous.
We need some help from the horny toads to even get 3, Baylor got smoked.
Yeah, 2 would be disappointing. 3 would be a lot better than anyone else did.
Post by: kstater on March 19, 2023, 08:31:50 PM
I suspect we'll be underdogs again next week. Crazy. But let em.Wearing white both (potential) games next week. Don't care what Vegas says, pretty bad ass considering expectations going in to the year.
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Post by: sys on March 19, 2023, 08:32:03 PM
Post by: catastrophe on March 19, 2023, 08:40:20 PM
the big 12 was the best conference this season, there was no “supposed” about it. that doesn’t mean that other teams aren’t good too.
Bingo. I don't give a flying eff who else advances, we did, and history will reflect that the Big 12 conference was the best conference this season, regardless. The only thing left to wonder about is if the Big 12 will have a team in the fourth straight Duval four and/or win a third straight national championship.
admirable sentiments to be sure, but i don't think anyone but kenpom and ksufan and maybe a few other advanced stats nerds are going to care about who beat coppin state by more in december. the world according to the casual fan about town is going to go by tournament results, and unless baylor can get this turned around quick, it's going to be iffy for the big 12.
This is the NCAA tournament, not a 4 team playoff. Public sentiment barely factors in. Joe Six Pack might not care about advanced stats but the committee does, and they will have more impact on seeding than the AP poll.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2023, 08:57:24 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2023, 09:01:37 PM
Post by: mocat on March 19, 2023, 09:03:28 PM
FAU is rated higher in kenpom than we are
They're about to be 33-3
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2023, 09:04:49 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 19, 2023, 09:10:20 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2023, 09:17:34 PM
FAU is rated higher in kenpom than we are
I'm very well aware. Have you seen them play? Did you watch these two tournament games? Go look at that kenpom and check the their wins. Their best wins are a two point win against Florida and two wins against North Texas. They are ultimate computer trickers. Tennessee is going to beat them, I'm just hoping they can hang around and make it a 40 minute game.
Post by: Gooch on March 19, 2023, 09:25:24 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2023, 09:26:38 PM
Post by: catastrophe on March 19, 2023, 09:28:39 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2023, 09:28:40 PM
Post by: mocat on March 19, 2023, 09:34:22 PM
I think the warmup pants might be the most interesting thing about Indiana. (The entire state)
lol
Post by: CHONGS on March 19, 2023, 09:34:54 PM
I think the warmup pants might be the most interesting thing about Indiana. (The entire state)It's competing head to head with comically large fried pork cutlet sandwiches.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 19, 2023, 09:37:00 PM
I do
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2023, 09:39:51 PM
Do you guys remember when Texas Technical wore that style warm up paints when Robert Night coached them?
I do
Yep, red and black, they looked dumber than these and really cheap.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2023, 10:24:10 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/zft8C3v/Screenshot-20230319-220849.png)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 19, 2023, 10:31:09 PM
Fanatics have lost their goddamned mind. $85 for a sweet 16 shirt, lol
(https://i.ibb.co/zft8C3v/Screenshot-20230319-220849.png)
When you’ve been crawling in the desert for days you’d happily spend all your dollars for a glass of water
Post by: sys on March 19, 2023, 10:43:34 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 19, 2023, 10:49:07 PM
Post by: sys on March 19, 2023, 11:08:55 PM
Post by: chum1 on March 19, 2023, 11:56:42 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2023, 12:24:41 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 20, 2023, 01:05:14 AM
How could Baylor do this to us
They were not a tournament team after George's injury, a shell of themselves. The team we saw tonight is exactly the same team that lost back to back games to Iowa State by a billion points.
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2023, 08:25:20 AM
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2023, 08:37:01 AM
How could Baylor do this to us
They were not a tournament team after George's injury, a shell of themselves. The team we saw tonight is exactly the same team that lost back to back games to Iowa State by a billion points.
Losing to McNeck is never acceptable. Even oscar beat him.
Post by: zackole1 on March 20, 2023, 09:57:56 AM
I can't believe Indiana still wears those ridiculous warmup pants.
Lucky for Miami "Spinkles" was out with splinters....
Post by: Brock Landers on March 20, 2023, 10:31:57 AM
Post by: mocat on March 22, 2023, 09:35:10 AM
wins (21)
#11 marquette
#23 maryland
#26 kentucky
#30 indiana
#36 penn state
#39 rutgers
#40 iowa
#41 oregon
#42 michigan
#43 usc
#50 ohio state x2
#57 villanova
#59 wisconsin
#94 nebraska x2
#156 portland
#174 brown
#210 buffalo
#211 northern arizona
#272 oakland
losses (12)
#2 alabama
#7 gonzaga
#8 purdue x2
#30 indiana
#34 illinois
#38 northwestern
#39 rutgers
#40 iowa
#42 michigan
#50 ohio state
#165 notre dame
#21 Kansas State opponents
wins (25)
#5 texas
#9 kansas
#16 baylor x2
#19 west virginia
#25 tcu
#26 kentucky
#31 iowa state
#46 oklahoma state x2
#52 oklahoma
#60 nevada
#61 texas tech
#73 florida
#94 nebraska
#99 wichita state
#113 montana state
#145 lsu
#169 radford
#193 abilene christian
#247 ut rio grande valley
#255 rhode island
#268 california
#314 umkc
#339 incarnate word
losses (9)
#5 texas
#9 kansas
#19 west virginia
#25 tcu x2
#31 iowa state
#52 oklahoma
#61 texas tech
#122 butler
Post by: mocat on March 22, 2023, 09:36:55 AM
- KSU's only L's that were not away games were vs Texas in Manhattan, and vs TCU in KC. just avoid bringing that lackluster energy and this will be a W
Post by: Spracne on March 22, 2023, 11:36:06 AM
- that's right, sunday was Michigan State's first top 20 win all season.
- KSU's only L's that were not away games were vs Texas in Manhattan, and vs TCU in KC. just avoid bringing that lackluster energy and this will be a W
Correct. Y'all should dog walk them. Kinda lucked out to draw them in the S16. Savor this moment. Savor it!
Post by: KITNfury on March 22, 2023, 11:47:25 AM
Had pretty favorable brackets to the FF the last couple times we made it to the 2nd weekend. :(- that's right, sunday was Michigan State's first top 20 win all season.
- KSU's only L's that were not away games were vs Texas in Manhattan, and vs TCU in KC. just avoid bringing that lackluster energy and this will be a W
Correct. Y'all should dog walk them. Kinda lucked out to draw them in the S16. Savor this moment. Savor it!
Post by: Spracne on March 22, 2023, 12:20:14 PM
Had pretty favorable brackets to the FF the last couple times we made it to the 2nd weekend. :(- that's right, sunday was Michigan State's first top 20 win all season.
- KSU's only L's that were not away games were vs Texas in Manhattan, and vs TCU in KC. just avoid bringing that lackluster energy and this will be a W
Correct. Y'all should dog walk them. Kinda lucked out to draw them in the S16. Savor this moment. Savor it!
This clowder is different, tho
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 22, 2023, 12:43:33 PM
We are getting over the hump this time. There will be no KITN with these Cats!Had pretty favorable brackets to the FF the last couple times we made it to the 2nd weekend. :(- that's right, sunday was Michigan State's first top 20 win all season.
- KSU's only L's that were not away games were vs Texas in Manhattan, and vs TCU in KC. just avoid bringing that lackluster energy and this will be a W
Correct. Y'all should dog walk them. Kinda lucked out to draw them in the S16. Savor this moment. Savor it!
Post by: Skipper44 on March 22, 2023, 12:47:17 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 22, 2023, 01:15:27 PM
#24 Michigan State opponents
wins (21)
#11 marquette
#23 maryland
#26 kentucky
#30 indiana
#36 penn state
#39 rutgers
#40 iowa
#41 oregon
#42 michigan
#43 usc
#50 ohio state x2
#57 villanova
#59 wisconsin
#94 nebraska x2
#156 portland
#174 brown
#210 buffalo
#211 northern arizona
#272 oakland
losses (12)
#2 alabama
#7 gonzaga
#8 purdue x2
#30 indiana
#34 illinois
#38 northwestern
#39 rutgers
#40 iowa
#42 michigan
#50 ohio state
#165 notre dame
#21 Kansas State opponents
wins (25)
#5 texas
#9 kansas
#16 baylor x2
#19 west virginia
#25 tcu
#26 kentucky
#31 iowa state
#46 oklahoma state x2
#52 oklahoma
#60 nevada
#61 texas tech
#73 florida
#94 nebraska
#99 wichita state
#113 montana state
#145 lsu
#169 radford
#193 abilene christian
#247 ut rio grande valley
#255 rhode island
#268 california
#314 umkc
#339 incarnate word
losses (9)
#5 texas
#9 kansas
#19 west virginia
#25 tcu x2
#31 iowa state
#52 oklahoma
#61 texas tech
#122 butler
I wonder when was the last time no team swept us in conference? Gotta be a long time ago I reckon
Post by: MakeItRain on March 22, 2023, 01:34:18 PM
#24 Michigan State opponents
wins (21)
#11 marquette
#23 maryland
#26 kentucky
#30 indiana
#36 penn state
#39 rutgers
#40 iowa
#41 oregon
#42 michigan
#43 usc
#50 ohio state x2
#57 villanova
#59 wisconsin
#94 nebraska x2
#156 portland
#174 brown
#210 buffalo
#211 northern arizona
#272 oakland
losses (12)
#2 alabama
#7 gonzaga
#8 purdue x2
#30 indiana
#34 illinois
#38 northwestern
#39 rutgers
#40 iowa
#42 michigan
#50 ohio state
#165 notre dame
#21 Kansas State opponents
wins (25)
#5 texas
#9 kansas
#16 baylor x2
#19 west virginia
#25 tcu
#26 kentucky
#31 iowa state
#46 oklahoma state x2
#52 oklahoma
#60 nevada
#61 texas tech
#73 florida
#94 nebraska
#99 wichita state
#113 montana state
#145 lsu
#169 radford
#193 abilene christian
#247 ut rio grande valley
#255 rhode island
#268 california
#314 umkc
#339 incarnate word
losses (9)
#5 texas
#9 kansas
#19 west virginia
#25 tcu x2
#31 iowa state
#52 oklahoma
#61 texas tech
#122 butler
I wonder when was the last time no team swept us in conference? Gotta be a long time ago I reckon
2018. But before that it would have been sometime during the Big 8. KU swept us in '13 and we didn't play a true round robin under Frank.
Post by: Pete on March 22, 2023, 02:58:23 PM
I am swishing this one around in my mouth as I type this.- that's right, sunday was Michigan State's first top 20 win all season.
- KSU's only L's that were not away games were vs Texas in Manhattan, and vs TCU in KC. just avoid bringing that lackluster energy and this will be a W
Correct. Y'all should dog walk them. Kinda lucked out to draw them in the S16. Savor this moment. Savor it!
Post by: mocat on March 22, 2023, 02:59:29 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on March 22, 2023, 05:01:23 PM
FDU's coach looks like an alternate universe version of Steve-O where Steve-O never did drugs and wrecked his body but instead got into coaching basketball.
He really does look like Steve o. Knew he looked familiar, but couldn't place it. Still looks like he did a lot of drugs or maybe years of heavy drinking imo. If you told me he used to be homeless, I would immediately believe you.
Post by: Mr Bread on March 22, 2023, 05:02:43 PM
Post by: Pete on March 22, 2023, 05:20:01 PM
Also this sparty team is not good. You guys are going to butt eff them on national TV. Go cats. :emawkid:
Whew, very good to hear. My dentist said this exact same thing to me this morning, but it's good to hear this again. Very affirming.
Post by: KITNfury on March 22, 2023, 06:44:40 PM
Also this sparty team is not good. You guys are going to butt eff them on national TV. Go cats. :emawkid:Thank God, I only want to watch a butt rough ridin' with the entire country. Who's looking away when the brown foam starts to form? Not me. Not anybody. Go cats
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2023, 06:52:54 PM
Post by: KITNfury on March 22, 2023, 06:56:50 PM
... but eff.... a little in my mouth
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 22, 2023, 07:19:26 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2023, 09:43:01 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 23, 2023, 09:11:03 AM
W
W
Post by: CHONGS on March 23, 2023, 04:02:34 PM
Post by: sys on March 23, 2023, 08:53:08 PM
Post by: Gooch on March 23, 2023, 08:57:49 PM
Post by: puniraptor on March 23, 2023, 09:01:13 PM
Post by: sys on March 23, 2023, 09:01:22 PM
I would like to order the FAU. We will get maybe 3 rebounds against Tennessee.
i don't care for how musclely tenn looks.
Post by: TaqMan on March 23, 2023, 09:02:14 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 23, 2023, 09:02:53 PM
I would like to order the FAU. We will get maybe 3 rebounds against Tennessee.
i don't care for how musclely tenn looks.
Tenn whipped the crap out of us. They are big, which was a problem for our lineup. If you're not hitting shots, you're gonna have a bad time.
Post by: catastrophe on March 23, 2023, 09:03:46 PM
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 23, 2023, 09:23:22 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on March 23, 2023, 09:32:45 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/7fnefu.jpg)That’s a real beaut that I hope makes it onto a game day sign.
Post by: Gooch on March 23, 2023, 09:47:21 PM
Post by: sys on March 23, 2023, 10:08:18 PM
Post by: Cire on March 23, 2023, 10:09:00 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on March 23, 2023, 10:14:22 PM
also lol at the ref calling that out on florida a few possessions back on the trap.Refs seem to be in it for the storyline, but I approve.
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Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2023, 10:46:05 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on March 23, 2023, 10:46:51 PM
They are scaryBrad then Porter, now Dusty :ohno:
Post by: cfbandyman on March 23, 2023, 10:47:14 PM
9 seed is the only thing standing between us and the only final four appearance of all of our lifetimes?
We have to do it, this is it
Post by: sys on March 23, 2023, 10:48:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ol4rbYPYQc&t=27s
Post by: mocat on March 23, 2023, 10:52:33 PM
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Post by: sys on March 23, 2023, 10:59:16 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 23, 2023, 11:05:36 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2023, 11:06:39 PM
are they scary? yes, owls are super scary. go cats, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ol4rbYPYQc&t=27s
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Post by: catastrophe on March 23, 2023, 11:08:01 PM
I think you mean the FIRST FF of our lifetimes.9 seed is the only thing standing between us and the only final four appearance of all of our lifetimes?
We have to do it, this is it
Post by: puniraptor on March 23, 2023, 11:11:23 PM
Post by: mocat on March 23, 2023, 11:17:42 PM
Man, at like the halfway point in the 2nd half is was like wow ucla is going to embarrass the zags and then zags just like nah
oh man
Post by: konofo on March 23, 2023, 11:17:58 PM
kono
Post by: mocat on March 23, 2023, 11:19:48 PM
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Post by: konofo on March 23, 2023, 11:20:33 PM
kono
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 23, 2023, 11:21:10 PM
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Post by: Mr Bread on March 24, 2023, 06:16:56 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on March 24, 2023, 08:03:12 AM
Kenpom? More like getfuckedpom. :emawkid:
Post by: pissclams on March 24, 2023, 08:24:43 AM
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Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2023, 08:22:03 PM
Post by: kstater on March 24, 2023, 08:22:27 PM
One of these teams will play in the NC game:
San Diego State
Creighton
Princeton
Florida Atlantic
Kansas State
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2023, 08:24:27 PM
Could we be the only Power 5 school in the Elite 8???? Wild
Miami is in the ACC but I understand making that mistake given the ACC is ass and so is Miami
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2023, 08:29:38 PM
Oh yeah lolCould we be the only Power 5 school in the Elite 8???? Wild
Miami is in the ACC but I understand making that mistake given the ACC is ass and so is Miami
Post by: kim carnes on March 24, 2023, 09:12:28 PM
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Post by: cfbandyman on March 24, 2023, 09:22:45 PM
let's get texas bounced too. can't tsc a school that doesn't care about conference.
I'd love that to happen, doubtful
Then and Uconn out and it' sthe best shot you'll ever get
Post by: sys on March 24, 2023, 09:58:01 PM
Post by: catastrophe on March 24, 2023, 09:59:57 PM
the late games today aren't that fun, actually.Give it time
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2023, 10:52:41 PM
the late games today aren't that fun, actually.
Yeah terrible overall.
I think UT is who I'd want to play the most out of the teams 9n the other side of the bracket
Post by: nicname on March 24, 2023, 11:14:08 PM
UT is so rough ridin' good
Crazy we should have beaten them twice. The ood Texas game is still most frustrating to me this season
Post by: Mr Bread on March 25, 2023, 06:29:58 AM
UConn really playing like they're as good as kenpom thinks they are. Beat the absolute piss out of the mussbus. Played their entire rough ridin' bench for the third straight game. Keep an eye on that.
Damn, they aren't just the highest rated kenpom team left, they actually moved up to number one overall after the sweet sixteen. My basketball feelings are being heavily corroborated by science. If they win a 4th goddamned nc under a third coach in 25 years, eff all of that. Gross. That would be a terrible ending to this tournament.
Post by: KITNfury on March 25, 2023, 08:34:21 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on March 25, 2023, 10:48:59 AM
UConn really playing like they're as good as kenpom thinks they are. Beat the absolute piss out of the mussbus. Played their entire rough ridin' bench for the third straight game. Keep an eye on that.
Damn, they aren't just the highest rated kenpom team left, they actually moved up to number one overall after the sweet sixteen. My basketball feelings are being heavily corroborated by science. If they win a 4th goddamned nc under a third coach in 25 years, eff all of that. Gross. That would be a terrible ending to this tournament.
I forgot Calhoun won a third nc. I was pretty bruced out by that point tbf. Jesus Christ though possibly 5 in 25 years over three different coaches? After they tried to be a big boy state university and got left completely out in the cold. Shows how much could be possible at most power five schools.
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 25, 2023, 11:23:56 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on March 25, 2023, 11:25:32 AM
I really want the Cats to win today.
Yes, losing the elite 8 is one of the most gut punching losses, especially for us in the last few tries, I want over that hump
Post by: catastrophe on March 25, 2023, 11:33:01 AM
This time I’m expecting it.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 25, 2023, 11:43:10 AM
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Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2023, 12:24:20 PM
UConn really playing like they're as good as kenpom thinks they are. Beat the absolute piss out of the mussbus. Played their entire rough ridin' bench for the third straight game. Keep an eye on that.
Damn, they aren't just the highest rated kenpom team left, they actually moved up to number one overall after the sweet sixteen. My basketball feelings are being heavily corroborated by science. If they win a 4th goddamned nc under a third coach in 25 years, eff all of that. Gross. That would be a terrible ending to this tournament.
I forgot Calhoun won a third nc. I was pretty bruced out by that point tbf. Jesus Christ though possibly 5 in 25 years over three different coaches? After they tried to be a big boy state university and got left completely out in the cold. Shows how much could be possible at most power five schools.
For some dumb reason I always pictured Storrs, CT as being like right outside of NYC but it's about as isolated as you can get between Boston and DC which seems like it would be a disadvantage in the Big East
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2023, 01:05:59 PM
UConn really playing like they're as good as kenpom thinks they are. Beat the absolute piss out of the mussbus. Played their entire rough ridin' bench for the third straight game. Keep an eye on that.
Damn, they aren't just the highest rated kenpom team left, they actually moved up to number one overall after the sweet sixteen. My basketball feelings are being heavily corroborated by science. If they win a 4th goddamned nc under a third coach in 25 years, eff all of that. Gross. That would be a terrible ending to this tournament.
I forgot Calhoun won a third nc. I was pretty bruced out by that point tbf. Jesus Christ though possibly 5 in 25 years over three different coaches? After they tried to be a big boy state university and got left completely out in the cold. Shows how much could be possible at most power five schools.
For some dumb reason I always pictured Storrs, CT as being like right outside of NYC but it's about as isolated as you can get between Boston and DC which seems like it would be a disadvantage in the Big East
A terrible place to get to, even from Hartford. When I moved to Boston, I was shocked they play so many games 40 minutes away from campus.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 25, 2023, 01:48:22 PM
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Post by: mocat on March 25, 2023, 10:00:18 PM
Jesus Christ, UCONN is dogwalking the Zags.
bulldog walking them
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2023, 01:12:27 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on March 26, 2023, 07:18:24 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on March 26, 2023, 08:28:07 AM
UCONN bout to get another ship. They're obliterating anything that gets in their way.
Yeah, just hand it to them already
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 26, 2023, 11:48:51 AM
If Izzo is “Mister March” UCONN should be known as “The University of March”. They have peaked in March under several different coaches.UCONN bout to get another ship. They're obliterating anything that gets in their way.
Yeah, just hand it to them already
Post by: pissclams on March 26, 2023, 01:03:09 PM
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Post by: Pete on March 26, 2023, 06:59:38 PM
What a great victory for Pack, Stunted and oscar.Pack would have never ever played this year for oscar. Pack was leaving to get paid, no matter what.
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 26, 2023, 07:04:54 PM
What a great victory for Pack, Stunted and oscar.Pretty damning for Oscar. He had Nowell, Pack and Smith and finished dead last in the league. It's true that's the only talent he had on the floor, but whose fault was that?
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2023, 07:06:31 PM
What a great victory for Pack, Stunted and oscar.Pretty damning for Oscar. He had Nowell, Pack and Smith and finished dead last in the league. It's true that's the only talent he had on the floor, but whose fault was that?
It’s one of life’s great mysteries. Probably Bill Self
Post by: kim carnes on March 26, 2023, 07:41:41 PM
Could we be the only Power 5 school in the Elite 8???? Wild
Miami is in the ACC but I understand making that mistake given the ACC is ass and so is Miami
You know your stuff 🥴
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 01, 2023, 05:52:06 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 01, 2023, 06:50:37 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 01, 2023, 07:33:21 PM
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Post by: KITNfury on April 01, 2023, 08:06:47 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 01, 2023, 10:12:44 PM
UCONN has put on an insane display of dominance this tourney.UCONN is good. I’m enjoying Jackson’s dunking.
Post by: kim carnes on April 01, 2023, 10:13:48 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 01, 2023, 11:26:20 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2023, 05:43:13 AM
You're all rough ridin' psycho
Looks like someone couldn’t handle staring at the brown froth
Post by: MakeItRain on April 02, 2023, 09:07:22 AM
Uconn is going to be an interesting case study. They've lost 8 goddamned games but look at this stat.
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22.5 — UConn's average margin of victory in the NCAA tournament. The record is 23.75 by 1967 UCLA, which was led by Lew Alcindor and blew out four foes: 109-60 vs. Wyoming, 80-64 vs. Pacific, 73-58 vs. Houston, 79-64 vs. DaytonAn 8 loss team, that didn't have key injuries during those losses, can't be considered one of the most dominant teams of all time, right?
I also think that Dan Hurley isn't going to be around UConn long enough to win a lot of championships. His style seems to be one that wears thin on everyone around him.
Post by: pissclams on April 02, 2023, 05:07:51 PM
terrible officiating in this national championship game, hate to see it.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 02, 2023, 07:13:03 PM
kim mulkey, what a coach. i don’t care for her but she is just great at everything she does.incredible record of success.
terrible officiating in this national championship game, hate to see it.
Post by: pissclams on April 02, 2023, 07:50:06 PM
two national championships as a player, four as a coach, a gold medal olympian, and high school valedictorian. just a really impressive person.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 02, 2023, 09:52:57 PM
Today's game was a real conundrum for me. I didn't want Iowa to win, I didn't want Mulkey to win, and I sure as hell didn't want anything good for LSU fans, but I love Bayou Barbie. :love:
Post by: cfbandyman on April 02, 2023, 10:03:48 PM
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two national championships as a player, four as a coach, a gold medal olympian, and high school valedictorian. just a really impressive person.
I say this with the most respect, that bitch knows how to win
Post by: cfbandyman on April 02, 2023, 10:06:31 PM
She's a trash human but a hell of a coach.
Today's game was a real conundrum for me. I didn't want Iowa to win, I didn't want Mulkey to win, and I sure as hell didn't want anything good for LSU fans, but I love Bayou Barbie. :love:
Angel is stunning, and a helluva baller.
Caitlin had an all timer of a tourny
Post by: Tobias on April 02, 2023, 10:35:19 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 02, 2023, 10:45:35 PM
i can understand though that the majority of people haven’t played a single second of competitive sport, don’t have any real idea what they’re upset about (it’s not the taunting), and are simply reading the headlines and faux outraging their balls off
just another day on twitter
Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2023, 10:51:24 PM
Post by: OB_Won on April 03, 2023, 01:53:17 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230403/4e84b81030efebeb77f77856a46914ef.jpg)She was also a 4 time state champion in high school. Just an incredible winning percentage her entire life.
two national championships as a player, four as a coach, a gold medal olympian, and high school valedictorian. just a really impressive person.
Post by: kim carnes on April 03, 2023, 09:06:49 PM
Being a UConn fan must be so goddamn incredible
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 03, 2023, 10:22:20 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 03, 2023, 10:29:58 PM
Post by: catastrophe on April 03, 2023, 10:41:07 PM
Just a crazy conversion rate, I get it's not over, but having 6 FF and on the cusp of your 5th Natty is insane and also something a certain institution in LFK is not at capable of despite their pleads to contrarySince the turn of the millennium, UConn basically has expected to get a natty every 4-5 years. Crazy.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 04, 2023, 08:50:54 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_tournament (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_tournament)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 04, 2023, 08:53:48 AM
Pretty crazy that two players (Pack, Nowell) from one of the worst Cat basketball teams of all time (21-22), ended up being Most Outstanding Player of their respective Regionals in the 22-23 TOR-na-ment:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_tournament (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_tournament)
yes, but i mean for the Cat basketball team in question i think its pretty obvious that the problem was the lousy fanbase (worst in the country).
Post by: star seed 7 on April 04, 2023, 09:04:38 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2023, 09:31:05 AM
Pretty crazy that two players (Pack, Nowell) from one of the worst Cat basketball teams of all time (21-22), ended up being Most Outstanding Player of their respective Regionals in the 22-23 TOR-na-ment:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_tournament (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_tournament)
Man, oscar Weber was such a sack of crap. I could have coached that team to the tournament.
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2023, 09:57:17 AM
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2023, 03:29:57 PM
Not to mention the schedule makers did us no favorsI have heard it said that scheduling is more important than recruiting.
Post by: Houstoncat93 on October 28, 2023, 07:40:17 AM
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the NIT will guarantee two teams (based on the NET rankings) from each of six conferences (Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and Southeastern). The top two teams in the NET rankings not qualifying for the NCAA men’s basketball tournament from each conference, regardless of won-loss record, will be selected. Additionally, the 12 teams automatically selected will be guaranteed the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT.
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In each NIT game, the free throw lane will be widened from 12 feet to 16 feet, consistent with the width used by the NBA and FIBA.
I wonder how long before we see the free throw lane widened for all games
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2023-10-27/nit-board-announces-changes-nit-and-use-experimental-rules
Post by: MakeItRain on October 28, 2023, 09:04:03 PM
Also if you're experimenting with rules, how in the hell are you not experimenting with quarters? American Men's college basketball is literally the only level and sanctioning body in the world that plays halves. Men's college basketball is completely mumped.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 14, 2024, 08:03:00 AM
Post by: catastrophe on March 14, 2024, 09:08:38 AM
But again that’s cause winning 3 consecutive against the best of the Big 12 is incredibly hard to do.
Post by: wetwillie on March 14, 2024, 09:15:15 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 14, 2024, 09:26:33 AM
Post by: catastrophe on March 14, 2024, 09:37:11 AM
No team in history with 5 Quad 1 wins and zero quad 3/4 losses has ever been left out of the tournament.Tang’s teams are nothing if not trailblazers. Already got the record for all time D-I overtime wins, why not break the NET while we’re at it?
Post by: deputy dawg on March 14, 2024, 09:49:00 AM
Post by: wetwillie on March 14, 2024, 10:03:08 AM
No team in history with 5 Quad 1 wins and zero quad 3/4 losses has ever been left out of the tournament.
What is the sample size?
Post by: catastrophe on March 14, 2024, 02:16:29 PM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on March 14, 2024, 03:02:10 PM
Of that group, only Clemson and Providence do NOT have a Q3 or Q4 loss.
I think it's 99.9% likely that we need to win tonight in order to get in and I'm not sure that makes us an automatic given that the computers hate us for some reason.
Post by: wetwillie on March 14, 2024, 03:06:22 PM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2024, 03:28:50 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 14, 2024, 03:59:21 PM
Maybe we will just win this stupid tournament and get in that way.
Yormark makes the call to let KSU win the tournament to get a 10th team in
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 15, 2024, 07:53:52 AM
Post by: pissclams on March 15, 2024, 11:34:32 AM
that doesn’t mean we can’t take a lot from the work these guys put in and find positives to take into next year.
Post by: wetwillie on March 15, 2024, 11:35:35 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 15, 2024, 11:42:37 AM
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Post by: Kid In the Hall on March 15, 2024, 12:13:37 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 15, 2024, 12:30:37 PM
I don't know when the last time K-State played in the NIT was, but I remember a home game against TCU in 1999 when Billy Tubbs brought Lee Nailon (formerly of Butler CC) to Bramlage and Nailon absolutely killed K-State in what was a relatively close game that we lost. That dude was a baller.
2007 for Huggy's only year and 2009 for Franks second year. I guess one nice thing about oscar was he was either good enough to dance or bad enough to miss the NIT entirely.
Post by: catastrophe on March 15, 2024, 02:16:33 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 15, 2024, 07:04:47 PM
Post by: schreds21 on March 16, 2024, 06:34:55 AM
I won't regale you with tales of seeing Ski go off in person. but i was there and so was another poster that I know of.:peek:
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 16, 2024, 12:55:24 PM
Post by: KST8FAN on March 16, 2024, 06:30:51 PM
I won't regale you with tales of seeing Ski go off in person. but i was there and so was another poster that I know of.I was there.
Tom
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 16, 2024, 06:59:53 PM
I won't regale you with tales of seeing Ski go off in person. but i was there and so was another poster that I know of.:peek:
make that 4.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 20, 2024, 10:21:27 AM
We are back, get your brackets in!Don't think this has been posted yetThanks MIR! Been trying to find this!
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
Password is: bazookajoe
Post by: Fldermaus on March 20, 2024, 10:48:48 AM
We are back, get your brackets in!Don't think this has been posted yetThanks MIR! Been trying to find this!
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
Password is: bazookajoe
That link took me to my bracket from last year. I found & added this year's, but this link might take you directly to the "goEMAW Bloggers" group:
https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8 (https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8)
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Post by: 'taterblast on March 06, 2025, 10:40:53 AM
time to get this mother rough rider warmed up, beating KU and Arizona is basically a certainty at this point, so we'll be sitting at 13-11 (7-6)
well crap
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 17, 2025, 10:00:30 AM
are we doing this bracket thingy again this year?We are back, get your brackets in!Don't think this has been posted yetThanks MIR! Been trying to find this!
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
Password is: bazookajoe
That link took me to my bracket from last year. I found & added this year's, but this link might take you directly to the "goEMAW Bloggers" group:
https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8 (https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 17, 2025, 10:29:32 AM
I don’t see why notare we doing this bracket thingy again this year?We are back, get your brackets in!Don't think this has been posted yetThanks MIR! Been trying to find this!
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
Password is: bazookajoe
That link took me to my bracket from last year. I found & added this year's, but this link might take you directly to the "goEMAW Bloggers" group:
https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8 (https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8)
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 18, 2025, 09:10:23 AM
Can you create a link for this year's pool, Greg?I don’t see why notare we doing this bracket thingy again this year?We are back, get your brackets in!Don't think this has been posted yetThanks MIR! Been trying to find this!
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
Password is: bazookajoe
That link took me to my bracket from last year. I found & added this year's, but this link might take you directly to the "goEMAW Bloggers" group:
https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8 (https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8)
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2025, 10:38:52 AM
Can you create a link for this year's pool, Greg?I don’t see why notare we doing this bracket thingy again this year?We are back, get your brackets in!Don't think this has been posted yetThanks MIR! Been trying to find this!
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
Password is: bazookajoe
That link took me to my bracket from last year. I found & added this year's, but this link might take you directly to the "goEMAW Bloggers" group:
https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8 (https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8)
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search goEMAW in the groups and it will come up, password is the same
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 18, 2025, 10:42:18 AM
thanksCan you create a link for this year's pool, Greg?I don’t see why notare we doing this bracket thingy again this year?We are back, get your brackets in!Don't think this has been posted yetThanks MIR! Been trying to find this!
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
Password is: bazookajoe
That link took me to my bracket from last year. I found & added this year's, but this link might take you directly to the "goEMAW Bloggers" group:
https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8 (https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8)
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search goEMAW in the groups and it will come up, password is the same
Post by: pissclams on March 19, 2025, 06:30:05 AM
Post by: nicname on March 20, 2025, 04:59:57 AM
thanksCan you create a link for this year's pool, Greg?I don’t see why notare we doing this bracket thingy again this year?We are back, get your brackets in!Don't think this has been posted yetThanks MIR! Been trying to find this!
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
Password is: bazookajoe
That link took me to my bracket from last year. I found & added this year's, but this link might take you directly to the "goEMAW Bloggers" group:
https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8 (https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=240&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8)
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search goEMAW in the groups and it will come up, password is the same
Won’t let me join!
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 20, 2025, 09:10:28 AM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 20, 2025, 10:20:09 AM
me either. :cry: (ftp://:cry:)https://fantasy.espn.com/tc/sharer?challengeId=257&from=espn&context=GROUP_INVITE&edition=espn-en&groupId=bb0eb12f-921e-3d91-9cf6-f650cd420a7c&joinKey=2748c81e-f6d4-375a-a822-f82011c592d8
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 20, 2025, 10:20:46 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 05, 2025, 11:56:46 AM