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Re: The Official Bracketology Thread
« Reply #950 on: March 10, 2014, 04:34:09 PM »
Thought they did pods and region didn't matter for the Ro64 and Ro32?

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« Reply #951 on: March 10, 2014, 05:07:55 PM »
Some team will have to go out west and be the 2 seed with 1 seed Ariz.    None of the possible 2 seeds are on the west half of the US, so the weakest 2 is likely the one that gets shipped out there.    They could send KU out west as the 2, but I think a better shot it is someone else

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« Reply #952 on: March 10, 2014, 05:15:28 PM »

Some team will have to go out west and be the 2 seed with 1 seed Ariz.    None of the possible 2 seeds are on the west half of the US, so the weakest 2 is likely the one that gets shipped out there.    They could send KU out west as the 2, but I think a better shot it is someone else

Still has no effect on if they play in StL.

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« Reply #953 on: March 10, 2014, 05:21:24 PM »
Thought they did pods and region didn't matter for the Ro64 and Ro32?

Correct, all three Kansas schools could be in StL with two of them in the same region or they could be there with all 3 being in the same region and that doesn't even need to be the Midwest. WSU will be the 1 in the Midwest, we hope that K-State is the 8 or 9 there too. Wouldn't be odd if KU it's the 2 there as well. I gotta think that one of the first four teams will get sent to StL as well to play the 7 if KU gets sent there as a 2 or anyone else in StL as a 2 like Michigan or Wisconsin. Milwaukee is also a pod site so I'd assume the Big 10 teams would get sent there. WSU and or KU might also end up in San Antonio.

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« Reply #954 on: March 10, 2014, 05:31:57 PM »
would be a boon for wsu to play in stl after being there this week.

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« Reply #955 on: March 10, 2014, 05:42:56 PM »
Is KU completely ruled out from getting the last 1 seed? Especially if they beat OSU, ISU/K-State & OU/Texas to win the Big 12 tournament?

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« Reply #956 on: March 10, 2014, 07:49:39 PM »
Is KU completely ruled out from getting the last 1 seed? Especially if they beat OSU, ISU/K-State & OU/Texas to win the Big 12 tournament?

no, but should be.

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« Reply #957 on: March 10, 2014, 08:20:40 PM »
Conference tourneys are basically meaningless unless you beat someone WAY better than you, or lose to someone way worse than you. So, KU is going to have to hope and pray that the other 1 seed candidates lose to some shitty team in their first game.
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« Reply #958 on: March 10, 2014, 08:35:57 PM »
we aren't going to play wichita state

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« Reply #959 on: March 10, 2014, 08:48:18 PM »
Is KU completely ruled out from getting the last 1 seed? Especially if they beat OSU, ISU/K-State & OU/Texas to win the Big 12 tournament?

If Wisc or Mich win the Big 10 tourney... I think they are in good shape to get last 1.   Villanova is also in good shape to get it. 

KU has a shot at it, but not a great one.  Same with Duke (if they won ACC and beat Cuse and Virg doing so).   


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« Reply #960 on: March 10, 2014, 08:58:30 PM »
Will the committee punish KU with a 3 seed for Embiid being out the first weekend?

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« Reply #961 on: March 10, 2014, 09:44:21 PM »


I also have those same 4 teams as my 7 seeds.  If we could beat Isu, is it possible that we could get onto the 7 seed line?  Sure it is possible but what other teams on the 7 seed and 8 seed line do also will have an impact. 

Little bit about the 8 seeds = 
1.  I acutally think ArizSt is a 9 seed.  They have lost 4 of 6 (2 of those losses to non tourney teams).  They went 10-8 like us, have similar rpi and sos as us.  They have only 4 top 50 wins.   4 road wins but only 2 of those are teams 150 rpi or better.
2.  Iowa finished 9-9 in the Big 10 , and lost 5 of last 6 games.   They had 5 top 50 wins.  They had 4 road wins (2 vs top 100, 2 in the top 150).  They don't have a bad loss.    They went 4-8 vs top 50 Big Ten teams while Ksu went 5-7 vs top 50 Big 12 teams.  Their SOS and rpi are a little better than Ksu.
3. Oregon won 7 straight game to get to 10-8 in Pac 12.  They got 3 of their 4 top 50 wins on this streak including beating top 5 team AZ.  They had a very solid non con going 12-0 with a win over 1 top 50 team and 4 wins over top 100 teams.  And that is why their rpi and sos are both in the top 30

9 seeds--
1. I actually have Baylor as an 8 seed instead of ArizSt.   Won 7 of 8 to get to 9-9 in Big 12.  Like us, they also had 5 top 50 wins vs Big 12 teams.  Our wins are better but they swept us.   Good non con that included 10-1 mark with 3 top 50 wins.  SOS is 10th.
2. Zags went 15-3 and 25-6 overall.   Best wins are BYU and Ark, so not a lot to show there. 2 of their conf losses were to teams above 150 rpi.   They have a nice record, their SOS is only 106.... so they look like a typical 9/10 seed.   
3. I have SMU as a 10 seed (and have Ok st as my last 9 seed).   SMU went 23-8.  4 of those wins are top 50, but their 5th best win is vs rpi 124.   So it shows in their 130 overall SOS and 301 non con SOS.    They went 4-4 vs Lvile,Cincy,Conn,Memphis.... the other 4 teams in their conf that will be in the tourney.   
4. I acutally had GW as the worst 8 seed (had Iowa as the best 9).  They went 11-5 in A10.   Went 2-4 vs top 50 teams in the A10.  Beat Creighton in the non con giving them 3 top 50 wins for the season.   Their SOS is only 93.   They appear to be a typical 8/9 seed, but I think they would have to win the A10 tourney to get up to a 7 seed. 
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Re: The Official Bracketology Thread
« Reply #962 on: March 10, 2014, 10:20:16 PM »
wouldn't play in st Louis as a 7 seed, because likely KU and WSU will be there for the second/third rounds and we cant play KU in our second game.
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Re: The Official Bracketology Thread
« Reply #963 on: March 10, 2014, 11:19:04 PM »
Conference tourneys are basically meaningless unless you beat someone WAY better than you, or lose to someone way worse than you. So, KU is going to have to hope and pray that the other 1 seed candidates lose to some shitty team in their first game.

Conference tournaments aren't really supposed to bolster your resume and the committee hasn't ever treated as such. October-February should and does carry more weight than 3 days in an NBA gym or NFL stadium. That being said I love championship week.

KU is a 2, there isn't anything they can do about it. They're closer to a 3 than a 1. There are too many teams that are fighting for that fourth 1 seed and you really can't expect all of them to lose to teams like Maryland, Clemson, Minnesota, Indiana, and Seton Hall. The committee won't punish a team, for losing in the conference tournament semis and they shouldn't.

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Re: The Official Bracketology Thread
« Reply #964 on: March 10, 2014, 11:25:31 PM »
Conference tourneys are basically meaningless unless you beat someone WAY better than you, or lose to someone way worse than you. So, KU is going to have to hope and pray that the other 1 seed candidates lose to some shitty team in their first game.


KU is a 2, there isn't anything they can do about it. They're closer to a 3 than a 1. There are too many teams that are fighting for that fourth 1 seed and you really can't expect all of them to lose to teams like Maryland, Clemson, Minnesota, Indiana, and Seton Hall. The committee won't punish a team, for losing in the conference tournament semis and they shouldn't.

And, it may actually matter what the committee thinks about Joel's status.  Bill had better be telling anyone who will listen that Joel will be back.

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Re: The Official Bracketology Thread
« Reply #965 on: March 11, 2014, 12:49:29 AM »
Conference tourneys are basically meaningless unless you beat someone WAY better than you, or lose to someone way worse than you. So, KU is going to have to hope and pray that the other 1 seed candidates lose to some shitty team in their first game.


KU is a 2, there isn't anything they can do about it. They're closer to a 3 than a 1. There are too many teams that are fighting for that fourth 1 seed and you really can't expect all of them to lose to teams like Maryland, Clemson, Minnesota, Indiana, and Seton Hall. The committee won't punish a team, for losing in the conference tournament semis and they shouldn't.

And, it may actually matter what the committee thinks about Joel's status.  Bill had better be telling anyone who will listen that Joel will be back.

completely agree

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Re: The Official Bracketology Thread
« Reply #966 on: March 11, 2014, 01:05:29 AM »
St. Louis doesn't need K-State.

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Re: The Official Bracketology Thread
« Reply #967 on: March 11, 2014, 10:32:24 AM »
http://www.bloguin.com/runthefloor/2014-articles/march/5-teams-with-the-most-to-gain-this-week.html

5 - KANSAS STATE WILDCATS

Plenty of teams in college basketball soar at home but then crash on the road. There's perhaps no better example than Kansas State, which is "Popeye-just-ate-his-spinach" powerful in Bramlage Coliseum (named "The Octagon of Doom") but "Superman-in-the-presence-of-Kryptonite" impotent in Big 12 road games.

Kansas State is somewhere in the vicinity of a 9 seed (give or take a seed line) at the moment. The Wildcats are safely in the field, and what's more is that a lot of critics (this one included; one must admit when one is wrong in this business...) were skeptical of this team's ability to get to the NCAA tournament, given oscar Weber's tenure at Illinois, in which he inherited really good players, won at a high level, and then couldn't sustain that level of success with his own recruiting classes. On Dec. 20, Kansas State was an NIT team, but Weber -- to his great credit -- developed a team that was strong enough to beat almost all of the Big 12's best competitors at home. That was more than enough to get the Cats into the field.

Now, Kansas State arrives at the Big 12 Tournament. These aren't home games, true enough, but they're not pure road games, either. Plenty of KSU fans will be on hand for this event, and with the Wildcats landing in Kansas's half of the bracket, there's a great chance to reach the final, given the health problems plaguing KU big man Joel Embiid. If Kansas State can get hot on a neutral court and win the Big 12 Tournament, it could rise to a 6 seed. At the very least, the team could get out of the 8-9 game and land at a 7, thereby avoiding a No. 1 seed in the round of 32. That's definitely something to play for.

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Re: The Official Bracketology Thread
« Reply #968 on: March 11, 2014, 10:39:21 AM »
St. Louis doesn't need K-State.
Ok. Who's saying that?

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« Reply #969 on: March 11, 2014, 11:19:36 AM »
http://www.bloguin.com/runthefloor/2014-articles/march/5-teams-with-the-most-to-gain-this-week.html

5 - KANSAS STATE WILDCATS

Plenty of teams in college basketball soar at home but then crash on the road. There's perhaps no better example than Kansas State, which is "Popeye-just-ate-his-spinach" powerful in Bramlage Coliseum (named "The Octagon of Doom") but "Superman-in-the-presence-of-Kryptonite" impotent in Big 12 road games.

Kansas State is somewhere in the vicinity of a 9 seed (give or take a seed line) at the moment. The Wildcats are safely in the field, and what's more is that a lot of critics (this one included; one must admit when one is wrong in this business...) were skeptical of this team's ability to get to the NCAA tournament, given oscar Weber's tenure at Illinois, in which he inherited really good players, won at a high level, and then couldn't sustain that level of success with his own recruiting classes. On Dec. 20, Kansas State was an NIT team, but Weber -- to his great credit -- developed a team that was strong enough to beat almost all of the Big 12's best competitors at home. That was more than enough to get the Cats into the field.

Now, Kansas State arrives at the Big 12 Tournament. These aren't home games, true enough, but they're not pure road games, either. Plenty of KSU fans will be on hand for this event, and with the Wildcats landing in Kansas's half of the bracket, there's a great chance to reach the final, given the health problems plaguing KU big man Joel Embiid. If Kansas State can get hot on a neutral court and win the Big 12 Tournament, it could rise to a 6 seed. At the very least, the team could get out of the 8-9 game and land at a 7, thereby avoiding a No. 1 seed in the round of 32. That's definitely something to play for.

Too bad we're not even going to get past ISU.

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« Reply #970 on: March 11, 2014, 11:37:29 AM »
http://www.bloguin.com/runthefloor/2014-articles/march/5-teams-with-the-most-to-gain-this-week.html

5 - KANSAS STATE WILDCATS

Plenty of teams in college basketball soar at home but then crash on the road. There's perhaps no better example than Kansas State, which is "Popeye-just-ate-his-spinach" powerful in Bramlage Coliseum (named "The Octagon of Doom") but "Superman-in-the-presence-of-Kryptonite" impotent in Big 12 road games.

Kansas State is somewhere in the vicinity of a 9 seed (give or take a seed line) at the moment. The Wildcats are safely in the field, and what's more is that a lot of critics (this one included; one must admit when one is wrong in this business...) were skeptical of this team's ability to get to the NCAA tournament, given oscar Weber's tenure at Illinois, in which he inherited really good players, won at a high level, and then couldn't sustain that level of success with his own recruiting classes. On Dec. 20, Kansas State was an NIT team, but Weber -- to his great credit -- developed a team that was strong enough to beat almost all of the Big 12's best competitors at home. That was more than enough to get the Cats into the field.

Now, Kansas State arrives at the Big 12 Tournament. These aren't home games, true enough, but they're not pure road games, either. Plenty of KSU fans will be on hand for this event, and with the Wildcats landing in Kansas's half of the bracket, there's a great chance to reach the final, given the health problems plaguing KU big man Joel Embiid. If Kansas State can get hot on a neutral court and win the Big 12 Tournament, it could rise to a 6 seed. At the very least, the team could get out of the 8-9 game and land at a 7, thereby avoiding a No. 1 seed in the round of 32. That's definitely something to play for.

Too bad we're not even going to get past ISU.

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« Reply #971 on: March 11, 2014, 11:41:36 AM »
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« Reply #973 on: March 13, 2014, 03:26:45 PM »
http://www.bloguin.com/runthefloor/2014-articles/march/5-teams-with-the-most-to-gain-this-week.html

5 - KANSAS STATE WILDCATS

Plenty of teams in college basketball soar at home but then crash on the road. There's perhaps no better example than Kansas State, which is "Popeye-just-ate-his-spinach" powerful in Bramlage Coliseum (named "The Octagon of Doom") but "Superman-in-the-presence-of-Kryptonite" impotent in Big 12 road games.

Kansas State is somewhere in the vicinity of a 9 seed (give or take a seed line) at the moment. The Wildcats are safely in the field, and what's more is that a lot of critics (this one included; one must admit when one is wrong in this business...) were skeptical of this team's ability to get to the NCAA tournament, given oscar Weber's tenure at Illinois, in which he inherited really good players, won at a high level, and then couldn't sustain that level of success with his own recruiting classes. On Dec. 20, Kansas State was an NIT team, but Weber -- to his great credit -- developed a team that was strong enough to beat almost all of the Big 12's best competitors at home. That was more than enough to get the Cats into the field.

Now, Kansas State arrives at the Big 12 Tournament. These aren't home games, true enough, but they're not pure road games, either. Plenty of KSU fans will be on hand for this event, and with the Wildcats landing in Kansas's half of the bracket, there's a great chance to reach the final, given the health problems plaguing KU big man Joel Embiid. If Kansas State can get hot on a neutral court and win the Big 12 Tournament, it could rise to a 6 seed. At the very least, the team could get out of the 8-9 game and land at a 7, thereby avoiding a No. 1 seed in the round of 32. That's definitely something to play for.

Too bad we're not even going to get past ISU.

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« Reply #974 on: March 13, 2014, 03:52:54 PM »
Oh hi.  The luchando naranja y azul pans are going to be on that motherfucking bubble if they win four more in a row!  So suck it all you haters who didn't believe because I know who you are and I won't forget.  #bubblepoppin

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