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A name with much more weight than a spot on a wish list has emerged in South Carolina's coaching search.
Kansas State's Frank Martin has been confirmed as a candidate with "heavy" interest in USC, according to a source close to the situation. Martin just finished his fifth season with the Wildcats in his fourth NCAA tournament - Martin has never missed a postseason as a head coach (five years, all at K-State), although his second season was an NIT berth.
Kansas State was eliminated from this year's NCAA tournament in the second round by Syracuse, after senior Jamar Samuels was declared ineligible less than 24 hours before the game. The Orange, missing their own suspended player in Fab Melo, beat Kansas State 75-59.
Martin is a hot name in coaching, having followed Bob Huggins from Cincinnati to Kansas State and taking over when Huggins resigned to take the spot at his alma mater, West Virginia. As renowned for his fiery demeanor on the sideline as his coaching ability and recruiting prowess, Martin would be a definite big name that could automatically restore a lot of hope and enthusiasm in USC basketball.
Martin's last contract extension bumped him to $1.55 million annually, which is right in the range of what USC athletic director Eric Hyman is thought to be considering for the next coach. Hyman didn't quote an exact figure at the press conference announcing Darrin Horn's firing, just saying he would pay "market value," but after paying Horn $1.1 million per year and watching that figure drop lower and lower on the scale of SEC coaches' pay, Hyman can easily go more. He has a reserve fund of over $12 million to draw from, $2.4 million of which can help cover Horn's buyout.
Hyman attended USC's women's basketball game in West Lafayette, Ind., on Saturday but was not there for the Gamecocks' advancement to the Sweet 16 on Monday. He previously said that he would have no comment on the coaching search until it was completed.
No matter who USC hires, the new coach will have quite a task facing him with the Gamecocks' basketball team. USC has some pieces, but not a lot of ready-made basketball talent, especially as the saga of oscar Ellington continues to mount.
Martin, though, brings a reputation of getting the most out of his players. An intimidating presence who is constantly in his players' faces on the sideline, Martin has won ever since he took over. Despite the fact that he really only had one season at K-State with his players (most were recruited by Huggins), the Wildcats finished 22-10 and 10-8 in the Big 12 in 2012.
Martin was thought to be a natural for the Miami job when it opened last year, as he grew up in Miami as the son of Cuban immigrants. He won three straight high school state championships in that city and then got into college coaching, at Northeastern.
But the job went to Jim Larranaga instead, and Martin said that he planned to be at Kansas State for a long time. It sounded then as if he was putting on a façade to mask his disappointment, and now he has at least let it be known that he is interested in USC.
Martin is a winner, but has drawn criticism for his in-your-face style with his players. He gets results, but his K-State teams have had a lot of attrition, both coming and going. Martin has had several players transfer in and out of his program.
At USC, at least early on, that could be a boon. While everyone likes to see stability, the Gamecocks had a lot of attrition under Horn and frankly, need players. There may not be many to get at this date, but perhaps Martin could bring in a recruiting connection.
Glenn Elrod contributed to this story
http://southcarolina.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1345208
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Martin, though, brings a reputation of getting the most out of his players.
slap in the face to all of the talent we have, imho. This is the perception...then, that means everyone thinks you can't recruit.
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My reaction also.
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Martin, though, brings a reputation of getting the most out of his players.
slap in the face to all of the talent we have, imho. This is the perception...then, that means everyone thinks you can't recruit.
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Eddie Fogler-Failed at South Carolina
Dave Odom-Failed at South Carolina
They built a sparkling new arena.
Darrin Horn-Failed at South Carolina
Anybody see a trend here?
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Eddie Fogler-Failed at South Carolina
Dave Odom-Failed at South Carolina
They built a sparkling new arena.
Darrin Horn-Failed at South Carolina
Anybody see a trend here?
people fail at south carolina?
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Frank Martin would do very well at South Carolina.
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Eddie Fogler-Failed at South Carolina
Dave Odom-Failed at South Carolina
They built a sparkling new arena.
Darrin Horn-Failed at South Carolina
Anybody see a trend here?
An opportunity that keeps growing?
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Growing Opportunity to fail at South Carolina . . .
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What is SC's fan support for bball? I would imagine not great.
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The Frank Martin to South Carolina rumors are really heating up. According to sources, Martin may have already been in contact with USC officials. South Carolina native Gregg Marshall was believed to be the #1 target, but he may have priced himself out of the game. Marshall reportedly wants a 7-year $2.5 million deal.
http://hoopdirt.com/blog/a17a9159/daily-dirt-ii-3-19-12/ (http://hoopdirt.com/blog/a17a9159/daily-dirt-ii-3-19-12/)
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Meh. He's probably just trying to max out his renegotiation. If not, and he actually goes, I vote we go get someone who recruits shooters.
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The Frank Martin to South Carolina rumors are really heating up. According to sources, Martin may have already been in contact with USC officials. South Carolina native Gregg Marshall was believed to be the #1 target, but he may have priced himself out of the game. Marshall reportedly wants a 7-year $2.5 million deal.
http://hoopdirt.com/blog/a17a9159/daily-dirt-ii-3-19-12/ (http://hoopdirt.com/blog/a17a9159/daily-dirt-ii-3-19-12/)
:lol:
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Chickenaggie huh.
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I vote we go get someone who recruits shooters.
i could get behind this. #teamfrank, though.
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I vote we go get someone who recruits shooters.
i could get behind this. #teamfrank, though.
Can Underwood recruit shooters? :dunno:
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i'm intrigued by underwood. i kind of like him.
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They don't call him Underhood for nothing. The man can relate to the inner-city.
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Frank's agent doing work.
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FYJC
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i'm intrigued by underwood. i kind of like him.
i would turn :lynchmob: instantly.
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I've already got a gamecock cup and beer koozie. Weird liquor laws there, at least there were in the midst of our 2003 Big 12 Championship run.
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If Frank goes to South Carolina, John Currie has to be the biggest bad person ever
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the backlash to currie would be fun to watch.
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Frank is not going to USC. It is a sports wasteland. It makes Texas Tech look inviting.
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i'm gonna go buy one of those "male genitals" hats and feel frat-ish and cool.
it's funny because it's short for their mascot, the gamecock.
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Frank is not going to USC. It is a sports wasteland. It makes Texas Tech look inviting.
:dubious:
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COCKPAK
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COCKPAK
goECOCK.com
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Didn't USC win the national title in baseball a couple of years ago?
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yeah they've won two CWS in a row. they've also beat the #1 team in football and basketball in the last couple of years. kentucky and alabama i think. could be wrong.
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yeah they've won two CWS in a row. they've also beat the #1 team in football and basketball in the last couple of years. kentucky and alabama i think. could be wrong.
they're basically us but with more racism.
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I could see Frank leaving. Frank wouldn't want to leave the new coach with empty cupboards (doesn't seem to be his style). New coach will have a brand new BBPF, an experienced team with pretty much everybody returning, and a program at its highest level in years.
The only way I see Frank staying is if ADJC pulls out the checkbook (or ADJC bails). Frank had a great season after losing the programs top scorer in history, and made it to the 2nd round of the tournament.
We all know Frank and ADJC don't get along...but I don't think Frank and Undy get along very well either. Just my $.02.
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I could see Frank leaving. Frank wouldn't want to leave the new coach with empty cupboards (doesn't seem to be his style). New coach will have a brand new BBPF, an experienced team with pretty much everybody returning, and a program at its highest level in years.
The only way I see Frank staying is if ADJC pulls out the checkbook (or ADJC bails). Frank had a great season after losing the programs top scorer in history, and made it to the 2nd round of the tournament.
We all know Frank and ADJC don't get along...but I don't think Frank and Undy get along very well either. Just my $.02.
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but I don't think Frank and Undy get along very well either. Just my $.02.
What on earth?
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South Carolina? Pretty weak, Katz.
:zzz:
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No SC is more like Missouri . . . they should really accomplish more in athletics than what they have done since joining the SEC.
It is really perplexing how they have not been better in basketball given the urban setting of their campus, new arena and overall demographics.
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No SC is more like Missouri . . . they should really accomplish more in athletics than what they have done since joining the SEC.
It is really perplexing how they have not been better in basketball given the urban setting of their campus, new arena and overall demographics.
Their fans give even less of a crap about basketball than Longhorn fans, it'd be hard to imagine them ever giving a damn even if they were winning national titles in the sport.
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The list starts and ENDS with Underwood.
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Like huggs, I don't think frank is going to get along great with about any admin imo. Just a surly, stubborn SOB kinda thing.
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yeah they've won two CWS in a row. they've also beat the #1 team in football and basketball in the last couple of years. kentucky and alabama i think. could be wrong.
they're basically us but with more racism.
And no sustained success.
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do they still make you buy airplane bottles at the bar?
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No SC is more like Missouri . . . they should really accomplish more in athletics than what they have done since joining the SEC.
It is really perplexing how they have not been better in basketball given the urban setting of their campus, new arena and overall demographics.
Their fans give even less of a crap about basketball than Longhorn fans, it'd be hard to imagine them ever giving a damn even if they were winning national titles in the sport.
They average over 10K a game and they pretty much suck, they've only been in the NCAA tourney 8 times in their history, including only 1 time in the last 12 seasons. If K-State had that same track record Bramlage would be empty.
It's a risky deal if Frank takes the job, but if they toss a couple of million his way, I suspect he will probably consider it. It will be easier for him to mine Florida from South Carolina.
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male genitals BLOCKED!
Martin's in a hurry to get away from Currie, but if he
leaves, K-State AD threatens to reveal dirty 'secrets'
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Pictured above, two men that hate each other. Martin hates Currie because he's a snake-oil salesman.
Currie hates Martin because he likes to bend rules and not play everything "by-the-book."
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J rake. Don't ever stop.
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crock blocked . . . :lol:
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If Frank goes to SC, he either really wanted to get away from Currie, or Currie wouldn't budge on a contract negotiation.
I agree with the sentiment that his agent is trying to establish market value. Of course, it's probably not a bad place to live, either, and he may get better pull with Florida players.
Anyway, I'm sort of at level :blank: with this one.
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I'll be more concerned when the Illinois rumors start heating up
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Uconn anyone, maybe with a side of Alabama if Illinois snags Anthony grant.
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I could see Frank leaving. Frank wouldn't want to leave the new coach with empty cupboards (doesn't seem to be his style). New coach will have a brand new BBPF, an experienced team with pretty much everybody returning, and a program at its highest level in years.
The only way I see Frank staying is if ADJC pulls out the checkbook (or ADJC bails). Frank had a great season after losing the programs top scorer in history, and made it to the 2nd round of the tournament.
We all know Frank and ADJC don't get along...but I don't think Frank and Undy get along very well either. Just my $.02.
Come on man, it's only late March stop depressing me.
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bottom line....In Columbia, a player could have money wired to a piggly wiggly without some local Johnny be good hick calling the AD!
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I would be pretty sad if Frank left. :frown:
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Someone give me the odds on where Frank coaches in 2012-2013
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Jeff Goodman @GoodmanCBS
According to multiple sources, there has been no contact between South Carolina and Frank Martin. Martin has been out recruiting last 2 days
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why are people such retards when it comes to contact between coaches and AD's?
(not you ww)
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I've always told myself that I would support whatever team Frank goes to when he leaves, but I just couldn't support South Carolina. Didn't their football team still run out onto the field under the confederate flag up until just a few years ago?
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The Frank Martin to South Carolina rumors are really heating up. According to sources, Martin may have already been in contact with USC officials. South Carolina native Gregg Marshall was believed to be the #1 target, but he may have priced himself out of the game. Marshall reportedly wants a 7-year $2.5 million deal.
http://hoopdirt.com/blog/a17a9159/daily-dirt-ii-3-19-12/ (http://hoopdirt.com/blog/a17a9159/daily-dirt-ii-3-19-12/)
I find it 100% believable that Marshall thinks he's worth that much.
LOL at Frank building this program only to start over again at a dead end SEC program. Do executives quit Coca Cola to work at Faygo?
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The Frank Martin to South Carolina rumors are really heating up. According to sources, Martin may have already been in contact with USC officials. South Carolina native Gregg Marshall was believed to be the #1 target, but he may have priced himself out of the game. Marshall reportedly wants a 7-year $2.5 million deal.
http://hoopdirt.com/blog/a17a9159/daily-dirt-ii-3-19-12/ (http://hoopdirt.com/blog/a17a9159/daily-dirt-ii-3-19-12/)
I find it 100% believable that Marshall thinks he's worth that much.
LOL at Frank building this program only to start over again at a dead end SEC program. Do executives quit Coca Cola to work at Faygo?
:lol:
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LOL at Frank building this program only to start over again at a dead end SEC program. Do executives quit Coca Cola to work at Faygo?
This was a really good analogy.
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I'll be more concerned when the Illinois rumors start heating up
They won't, because they'll get Shaka.
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I'll be more concerned when the Illinois rumors start heating up
They won't, because they'll get Shaka.
@JonRothstein: Sources confirm that unless something drastic changes in the next 24 hours, Shaka Smart will stay at VCU.
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j rake :thumbsup:
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I'll be more concerned when the Illinois rumors start heating up
They won't, because they'll get Shaka.
@JonRothstein: Sources confirm that unless something drastic changes in the next 24 hours, Shaka Smart will stay at VCU.
:runaway:
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:lol:
J Rake :thumbs:
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Columbia, SC is a terrible place to live.
Frank is going nowhere.
Illinois is not going to get a power conference coach. I don't see Grant going there either (if the Smart rumors of staying at VCU are true).
Chris Collins to Illinois is my prediction.
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I'll be more concerned when the Illinois rumors start heating up
They won't, because they'll get Shaka.
@JonRothstein: Sources confirm that unless something drastic changes in the next 24 hours, Shaka Smart will stay at VCU.
Why the heck does Shaka like being so small timey?
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I'll be more concerned when the Illinois rumors start heating up
They won't, because they'll get Shaka.
@JonRothstein: Sources confirm that unless something drastic changes in the next 24 hours, Shaka Smart will stay at VCU.
Why the heck does Shaka like being so small timey?
Because he knows he can do better.
Illinois is a decent job and obviously a step up from VCU but Shaka/Stevens are not going to leave until the perfect job comes along.
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Shaka is obvs waiting for the KSU job to open up, respected collegues.
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lol
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knockout blow. j rake wins.
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:frown: Damnit, Rake. I'd been sitting on this because I thought it might be too soon...
MANHATTAN, KS -- Citing extensive minor and major violations occurring before and during his tenure as Kansas State University Athletic Director, John Currie today announced via e-mail that he had concluded his department had exhibited a continuous lack of institutional control while on probation that he was retroactively self-imposing dating back to 2005. As a result, Currie announced K-State would be self-imposing the so-called "death penalty" on its football and men's basketball programs, effective immediately. Under this sanction, neither program will compete in the 2013-2014 or 2014-2015 seasons.
The death penalty is recognized as the most severe penalty the NCAA can impose, involving season cancellation, loss of scholarships, and recruiting restrictions, and it has not been levied against a major school program since SMU in 1987 and 1988.
"It is our hope that by taking this decisive action, the NCAA will not impose more drastic sanctions," Currie's e-mail said. However, it is unclear what could constitute "more drastic sanctions," and attempts to contact Currie for clarification were not successful. He was reportedly seen leaving the athletic administrative offices of the University of Oklahoma earlier today. Former OU athletic director Joe Castiglione left that school 3 weeks ago to succeed the retiring Deloss Dodds at the University of Texas.
Unnamed sources in the Kansas State athletic department confirmed that the bulk of the violations were reported by an unidentified college basketball reporter with ESPN.com and an unidentified Portland-area KU athletics supporter.
The reaction of K-State fans at a local Dillons store was sorrowful but accepting. John Tuck, 58, said he would miss attending K-State football and basketball games, but would find plenty of enjoyment over the next couple of seasons in "rooting on the 'lady Cats' and whoever is playing KU." According to Tuck, "the important thing is making sure we're erring on the side of the harshest punishments under the strictest possible interpretation of even the most ambiguous or minor NCAA regulations at all times. It's nice to win, but not if you do it like all those teams that have been winning championships recently."
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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:frown: Damnit, Rake. I'd been sitting on this because I thought it might be too soon...
never, ever sit on a story. :nono:
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:frown: Damnit, Rake. I'd been sitting on this because I thought it might be too soon...
never, ever sit on a story. :nono:
That's why you're the journo and I'm not.
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Illinois is not interested in Frank
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Why the heck does Shaka like being so small timey?
Because he doesn't make small timey money. His base salary this year was $1.2MM. He makes 80% what HCFM and oscar Weber each made this past season with about 10% of the expectations and pressure. Leaves him pleanty of time to watch documentaries on big cats while still making over $1MM.
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Jeff Goodman @GoodmanCBS
According to multiple sources, there has been no contact between South Carolina and Frank Martin. Martin has been out recruiting last 2 days
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanCBS
Martin's agent, on the other hand, has been in talks with SC over a contract that Frank can bludgeon Currie with for a $400K raise at K-State.
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rake & slimz
:lol: :thumbs:
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Frank deserves a raise. I hope he gets it.
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Plz change thread title to PAY FRANK 2012
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South Carolina has a bball team?
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Plz change thread title to PAY FRANK 2012
We should start a "social media experiment" to make awareness to Pay Frank. It seemed to work for this Kony fellow.
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Listen, if Frank wants to spend every spring begging to get out of manhattan, let's show him the door now while we have a top-20 caliber team returning with which to recruit a replacement who wants to be here
Listen, if Currie can't keep him happy, let's show Currie the door now before we lose Frank
Listen, Currie should give Frank a big raise before other teams come calling, not emulate Weiser/Wefald who screwed the pooch by waiting to offer Huggs a reasonable bump until after WVU showed up
Listen, Currie should tell Frank that the next time he has his contacts associate his name with another opening, whether for leverage or because he wants out, he is gone
(couldn't decide) :dunno:
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Huggs leaving had nothing to do with the money.
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I'm at juco nationals. Take everything with a grain of salt, but the coaching grapevine/rumor mill says that Martin is interested in entertaining potential offers and both South Carolina and Illinois have been mentioned with him.
Doesn't mean anything, but college coaches are talking. This place is the biggest rumor mill on the planet, though, and several things people say are just regurgitated and changed thoughts. Kind of like a big game of telephone with job rumors.
Makes for entertaining conversations though.
not surprising, but disappointing. hope we can last till currie leaves.
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Frank being mentioned with pretty much any and every available bcs job is something that we will have to deal with until he takes something he finds more attractive. I'm sure it will happen, it's just a matter of when. I hate it, but that's reality. The Bill Snyders of the world are few and far between.
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Frank being mentioned with pretty much any and every available bcs job is something that we will have to deal with until he takes something he finds more attractive. I'm sure it will happen, it's just a matter of when. I hate it, but that's reality. The Bill Snyders of the world are few and far between.
if synder could get away from currie, he would too. but he's too old.
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Frank being mentioned with pretty much any and every available bcs job is something that we will have to deal with until he takes something he finds more attractive. I'm sure it will happen, it's just a matter of when. I hate it, but that's reality. The Bill Snyders of the world are few and far between.
if synder could get away from currie, he would too. but he's too old.
:lol: :thumbs:
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I really like Frank. Losing him would feel like a punch square in the balls.
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I'm at juco nationals. Take everything with a grain of salt, but the coaching grapevine/rumor mill says that Martin is interested in entertaining potential offers and both South Carolina and Illinois have been mentioned with him.
Doesn't mean anything, but college coaches are talking. This place is the biggest rumor mill on the planet, though, and several things people say are just regurgitated and changed thoughts. Kind of like a big game of telephone with job rumors.
Makes for entertaining conversations though.
not surprising, but disappointing. hope we can last till currie leaves.
who is that?
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Oh wow, this thread. Slimz story :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: J-rake headline champ.
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Post of the week / month / year / decade... whatever
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I'm at juco nationals. Take everything with a grain of salt, but the coaching grapevine/rumor mill says that Martin is interested in entertaining potential offers and both South Carolina and Illinois have been mentioned with him.
Doesn't mean anything, but college coaches are talking. This place is the biggest rumor mill on the planet, though, and several things people say are just regurgitated and changed thoughts. Kind of like a big game of telephone with job rumors.
Makes for entertaining conversations though.
not surprising, but disappointing. hope we can last till currie leaves.
who is that?
first bossi, then me.
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Frank is way to EMAW
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Would it be possible to put "grant of rights" language into his contract extension? Something like if he goes to another school, any money he or the school makes from BBall goes to K-State first then goes to Frank Martin? If the Big 12 did it why not K-State :ksu:
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Why the eff would he leave KSU for South Carolina though ?? Just because it's closer to the Florida pipeline ?? It's not football, I'd think you'd have an easier time getting those kids to KSU despite the distance than getting them to commit to play hoops for 4 years at SEC east South Carolina..
Plus, they're :opcat: as all get out down here..
He's obviously just trying to get a raise, which I mean, give it to him..
Illinois is not a real player in this, they need someone to recruit Chicago not Miami, there's a 100% chance their next HC is :eye:
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Why the eff would he leave KSU for South Carolina though ?? Just because it's closer to the Florida pipeline ?? It's not football, I'd think you'd have an easier time getting those kids to KSU despite the distance than getting them to commit to play hoops for 4 years at SEC east South Carolina..
Plus, they're :opcat: as all get out down here..
He's obviously just trying to get a raise, which I mean, give it to him..
Illinois is not a real player in this, they need someone to recruit Chicago not Miami, there's a 100% chance their next HC is :eye:
In case you didn't know, our athletic director is kind of a douchebag.
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Why the eff would he leave KSU for South Carolina though ?? Just because it's closer to the Florida pipeline ?? It's not football, I'd think you'd have an easier time getting those kids to KSU despite the distance than getting them to commit to play hoops for 4 years at SEC east South Carolina..
Plus, they're :opcat: as all get out down here..
He's obviously just trying to get a raise, which I mean, give it to him..
Illinois is not a real player in this, they need someone to recruit Chicago not Miami, there's a 100% chance their next HC is :eye:
In case you didn't know, our athletic director is kind of a douchebag.
Currie seems to be lacking a few qualities that would qualify him as a douchebag.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=douchebag (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=douchebag)
asswhole? Maybe
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there's a 100% chance their next HC is :eye:
wut
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there's a 100% chance their next HC is :eye:
wut
BILL WALKER IS THEIR NEXT HEAD COACH!?!?!?!?1?!?!? :runaway:
That is one hell of a scoop MiG!
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Norlander/Goodman/Parrish on cbs college hoops podcast today, starting around 33 and a half:
- Nothing with cocks yet, may change in future
- Frank will talk to AD soon, try to get on the same page
- He should be more in demand
- He wins
- No better, more open, more honest guy in college hoops
- He's real, came from nowhere, not supposed to be here, very aware of it still
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Anyone know anything about a Frank presser at noon today? If Frank was leaving I would think Currie would be holding the press conference.
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Anyone know anything about a Frank presser at noon today? If Frank was leaving I would think Currie would be holding the press conference.
what on earth
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Anyone know anything about a Frank presser at noon today? If Frank was leaving I would think Currie would be holding the press conference.
I wanted to know the same thing.
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Anyone know anything about a Frank presser at noon today? If Frank was leaving I would think Currie would be holding the press conference.
I wanted to know the same thing.
is 810 carrying the presser?
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Anyone know anything about a Frank presser at noon today? If Frank was leaving I would think Currie would be holding the press conference.
:dunno:
Frank and Figgs in Hutch today.
Wabash Valley(Wiggins) playing right now. If I hear anything more, I'll let you know.
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:horrorsurprise: :runaway: (ftp://:horrorsurprise: :runaway:)
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What's going on? I can't listen to 810.
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Anyone know anything about a Frank presser at noon today? If Frank was leaving I would think Currie would be holding the press conference.
I wanted to know the same thing.
False Alarm? Talked with some newsy types, they weren't invited. Doubt it happened.
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What's going on? I can't listen to 810.
I wish I wasn't listening. . .
:runaway:
:bawl:
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OMG, you guys have got to turn on 810 RIGHT NOW!
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Soren is live at the Low T Center.
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LOL
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I'm at juco nationals. Take everything with a grain of salt, but the coaching grapevine/rumor mill says that Martin is interested in entertaining potential offers and both South Carolina and Illinois have been mentioned with him.
Doesn't mean anything, but college coaches are talking. This place is the biggest rumor mill on the planet, though, and several things people say are just regurgitated and changed thoughts. Kind of like a big game of telephone with job rumors.
Makes for entertaining conversations though.
FWIW, Brad Underwood was there all afternoon yesterday while all these coaches were supposedly talking. Frank and Figs there today.
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I'm at juco nationals. Take everything with a grain of salt, but the coaching grapevine/rumor mill says that Martin is interested in entertaining potential offers and both South Carolina and Illinois have been mentioned with him.
Doesn't mean anything, but college coaches are talking. This place is the biggest rumor mill on the planet, though, and several things people say are just regurgitated and changed thoughts. Kind of like a big game of telephone with job rumors.
Makes for entertaining conversations though.
FWIW, Brad Underwood was there all afternoon yesterday while all these coaches were supposedly talking. Frank and Figs there today.
I can only imagine the great rumors Brad was spreading.
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Soren is live at the Low T Center.
Free screenings for $50!!!
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Why the eff would he leave KSU for South Carolina though ?? Just because it's closer to the Florida pipeline ?? It's not football, I'd think you'd have an easier time getting those kids to KSU despite the distance than getting them to commit to play hoops for 4 years at SEC east South Carolina..
Plus, they're :opcat: as all get out down here..
He's obviously just trying to get a raise, which I mean, give it to him..
Illinois is not a real player in this, they need someone to recruit Chicago not Miami, there's a 100% chance their next HC is :eye:
Frank is Cuban is that close enough for them?
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Plz change thread title to PAY FRANK 2012
We should start a "social media experiment" to make awareness to Pay Frank. It seemed to work for this Kony fellow.
I'm in. Will $200 bucks help with his groceries? :fatty:
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thought this would be the place to post this, Smart says no to Illinois
http://espn.go.com/chicago/ncb/story/_/id/7718478/vcu-coach-shaka-smart-reportedly-turns-illinois
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Norlander/Goodman/Parrish on cbs college hoops podcast today, starting around 33 and a half:
- Nothing with cocks yet, may change in future
- Frank will talk to AD soon, try to get on the same page
- He should be more in demand
- He wins
- No better, more open, more honest guy in college hoops
- He's real, came from nowhere, not supposed to be here, very aware of it still
Good to hear Parrish and his coaching contacts confirm my talking point about Chicago not being a recruiting advantage for Illinois. If I cared enough I'd go back to that thread and shove it into all of the fat faces who disagreed with me.
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Norlander/Goodman/Parrish on cbs college hoops podcast today, starting around 33 and a half:
- Nothing with cocks yet, may change in future
- Frank will talk to AD soon, try to get on the same page
- He should be more in demand
- He wins
- No better, more open, more honest guy in college hoops
- He's real, came from nowhere, not supposed to be here, very aware of it still
Good to hear Parrish and his coaching contacts confirm my talking point about Chicago not being a recruiting advantage for Illinois. If I cared enough I'd go back to that thread and shove it into all of the fat faces who disagreed with me.
PI Seth Davis on twitter.
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South Carolina's coaching search is heating.
A source close to the situation told GamecockCentral.com that Kansas State coach Frank Martin has had contact with USC officials about taking over for fired coach Darrin Horn. The source said that "the ball is in (Eric) Hyman's court," in his ability to get Martin to take over at USC and that Martin is more than willing to come to Columbia.
Repeated calls to Kansas State athletic director John Currie and to Martin's agent have not been returned. Martin was reported to be in Hutchinson, Kan., on Wednesday for the National Junior College Athletic Association Division I basketball championships by Rivals.com's Eric Bossi.
Another target for USC, Wichita State's Gregg Marshall, is also at the championships, according to Bossi.
GamecockCentral.com first reported on Monday that Martin had leaped onto USC's radar. Hyman has not spoken publicly on the search since the announcement of Horn's firing on March 13, and the K-State brass plus Martin's agent, Richard Katz, have yet to return messages seeking clarification if Hyman has asked for permission to speak to Martin.
Martin will be heading to New York shortly after agreeing to be a CBS studio analyst for this weekend's batch of NCAA tournament games. Martin will join Greg Gumbel, Charles Barkley, Greg Anthony and Kenny Smith as an in-studio host on Saturday and Sunday as the field for the Final Four is decided.
If Martin was hired at USC, it would bring instant name recognition to a program that is seeking excitement and enthusiasm in a program that grew stagnant under Horn. The intense, dark-eyed coach is a natural for drawing TV cameras, adopting a drill-sergeant mentality on the sideline. He's also a winner, having taken Kansas State to four NCAA tournaments in five years, including a second-round appearance this year before bowing out with a 22-11 final record.
Martin has a good situation at Kansas State, making $1.55 million per year and only losing two seniors from this year's team. One of the seniors, Jamar Samuels, was declared ineligible less than a day before the Wildcats' final game due to accepting an impermissible benefit. Martin, discussing the end of Samuels' career, had to stop several times to compose himself.
The benefit was later discovered to be $200 sent to Samuels from his former AAU coach, and Martin was not implicated in any way. "Jamar, in my opinion, has done nothing wrong," Martin said last weekend. "But the school has to protect its integrity. I wasn't part of the decision."
Still, the Wildcats are set up for a strong team next season. Martin has two commitments in 7-foot, 245-pound center Robert Upshaw of Fresno, Calif., and 6-10 center Laimonas Chatkevicius of Lithuania by way of South Kent, Conn.
USC paid Horn $1.1 million. Hyman has said that he will pay "market value" for a new coach, and that is thought to be from $1.5-1.8 million. The athletic department has a reserve fund of over $12 million that can help defray the cost of Horn's buyout ($2.4 million) and a new coach's contract.
TIDBITS
Another source told GamecockCentral.com on Wednesday that Bobby Lutz was picking up steam in relation to USC's coaching search. Lutz, an assistant at NC State who is preparing for a Sweet 16 matchup with Kansas, has natural connections with the Carolinas after growing up in North Carolina and serving from 1995-2010 as an assistant and then head coach at Charlotte.
On the other hand, Tommy Amaker's name may be falling off the radar for USC. While Harvard officials have not confirmed or denied the approaching of Amaker to ask for permission to speak to USC, Amaker may not want to leave his present position due to his family. Amaker's wife teaches at Harvard Medical School.
I want to apologize now to Underdog Wildcat...I have not read the prior 6 pages of this thread closely. If you have already posted this info, i throw myself at your feet and beg forgiveness.
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Say your goodbye's. :frown:
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I still won't allow myself to believe that he is actually considering leaving...just won't do it. Anyone have any new info?
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How pissed would a USC fan be if they ended up with Lutz after reading that?
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I hate this so much. :curse:
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I cannot imagine life without Frank. And I will not try.
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Currie's career is vanishing rumor by rumor. Last Friday, he was an AD with job security and upside. This upcoming Friday, he'll be copying his resume at
Kinko's Hale and hoping for an interview with MCC.
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As far as I'm concerned, Currie's ONLY job is to keep Frank here and happy.
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Guys, we need to make some sacrifices. And for my part I'm more than willing to sacrifice Kim Carnes to get Frank to stay.
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Why the eff would he leave KSU for South Carolina though ?? Just because it's closer to the Florida pipeline ?? It's not football, I'd think you'd have an easier time getting those kids to KSU despite the distance than getting them to commit to play hoops for 4 years at SEC east South Carolina..
Plus, they're :opcat: as all get out down here..
He's obviously just trying to get a raise, which I mean, give it to him..
Illinois is not a real player in this, they need someone to recruit Chicago not Miami, there's a 100% chance their next HC is :eye:
Frank is Cuban is that close enough for them?
Nah man, Illinois wants someone who can keep the top Chicago PSL kids home for once..
They are going to hire a black dude, it seems silly but I guarantee it's what they do.. The only chance Frank Martin would get the job is if he could pull together and All-Star recruiting staff of Chicago AAU coaches as his assistants..
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As far as I'm concerned, Currie's ONLY job is to keep Frank here and happy.
+100 ... if Frank leaves, Currie should be lit on fire by the first major donor that can afford a gallon of gas.
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Currie's career is vanishing rumor by rumor. Last Friday, he was an AD with job security and upside. This upcoming Friday, he'll be copying his resume at Kinko's Hale and hoping for an interview with MCC.
I mean seriously, can you even imagine this Athletic Director losing the best, most beloved coach we've had at our school in 30 years to South effing Carolina?
I'm starting to imagine it.
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Currie's career is vanishing rumor by rumor. Last Friday, he was an AD with job security and upside. This upcoming Friday, he'll be copying his resume at Kinko's Hale and hoping for an interview with MCC.
I mean seriously, can you even imagine this Athletic Director losing the best, most beloved coach we've had at our school in 30 years to South effing Carolina?
I'm starting to imagine it.
well, for one, he's most certainly not the most beloved coach, not even close.
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I still don't know whether or not to be worried.
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Currie's career is vanishing rumor by rumor. Last Friday, he was an AD with job security and upside. This upcoming Friday, he'll be copying his resume at Kinko's Hale and hoping for an interview with MCC.
I mean seriously, can you even imagine this Athletic Director losing the best, most beloved coach we've had at our school in 30 years to South effing Carolina?
I'm starting to imagine it.
well, for one, he's most certainly not the most beloved coach, not even close.
Not counting Hartman, he is just as beloved as Lon ever was.
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I still don't know whether or not to be worried.
I'm worried :frown:
Hope it's just posturing by Frank though, but deep down I feel like it's not.
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Currie's career is vanishing rumor by rumor. Last Friday, he was an AD with job security and upside. This upcoming Friday, he'll be copying his resume at Kinko's Hale and hoping for an interview with MCC.
I mean seriously, can you even imagine this Athletic Director losing the best, most beloved coach we've had at our school in 30 years to South effing Carolina?
I'm starting to imagine it.
well, for one, he's most certainly not the most beloved coach, not even close.
Not counting Hartman, he is just as beloved as Lon ever was.
LHC Bill Snyder is the most beloved coach. Frank is beloved by a small subset of k-state fans.
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I still don't know whether or not to be worried.
I'm worried :frown:
Hope it's just posturing by Frank though, but deep down I feel like it's not.
yep
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Currie, just quit so that good people can be happy.
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Currie's career is vanishing rumor by rumor. Last Friday, he was an AD with job security and upside. This upcoming Friday, he'll be copying his resume at Kinko's Hale and hoping for an interview with MCC.
I mean seriously, can you even imagine this Athletic Director losing the best, most beloved coach we've had at our school in 30 years to South effing Carolina?
I'm starting to imagine it.
well, for one, he's most certainly not the most beloved coach, not even close.
Not counting Hartman, he is just as beloved as Lon ever was.
LHC LHC Bill Snyder is the most beloved coach. Frank is beloved by a small subset of k-state fans.
Basketball. Should have clarified.
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I don't think our AD gives much of a crap about basketball.
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Currie's career is vanishing rumor by rumor. Last Friday, he was an AD with job security and upside. This upcoming Friday, he'll be copying his resume at Kinko's Hale and hoping for an interview with MCC.
I mean seriously, can you even imagine this Athletic Director losing the best, most beloved coach we've had at our school in 30 years to South effing Carolina?
I'm starting to imagine it.
well, for one, he's most certainly not the most beloved coach, not even close.
Not counting Hartman, he is just as beloved as Lon ever was.
LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder is the most beloved coach. Frank is beloved by a small subset of k-state fans.
By small subset you mean everyone under the age of 25 who had only known failure their entire lives relating to K-State basketball right?
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I still don't know whether or not to be worried.
Agreed. I've been on the "this whole South Carolina thing is a ruse to get Frank paid" train, but the rumors continuing to come out of SC worry me. And maybe the Jamar mess was enough for Frank to say "eff this, I'm mobile."
Plus, last I heard SC hadn't even picked up the phone to call Gregg Marshall, the alleged #1 guy on their list at the beginning of the search. That makes me think they've been in serious contract flirtations with Frank.
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I don't think our AD gives much of a crap about basketball.
Do you think our AD cares about its bottom line?
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count me in as officially worried.
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I don't think our AD gives much of a crap about basketball.
Do you think our AD cares about its bottom line?
i think it knows football is the single most important thing to the bottom line. i think they would pay less for a coach if they could, even if it meant not winning as much as we do now. i think they can do the math and realize that k-state basketball isn't going to generate much more revenue than it does now. attendance is stagnant and students and young alumni don't donate enough.
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I don't think our AD gives much of a crap about basketball.
Do you think our AD cares about its bottom line?
i think it knows football is the single most important thing to the bottom line. i think they would pay less for a coach if they could, even if it meant not winning as much as we do now. i think they can do the math and realize that k-state basketball isn't going to generate much more revenue than it does now. attendance is stagnant and students and young alumni don't donate enough.
They can also look at the revenues before Huggs and realize they can be a lot smaller. Of course football is most important, but you don't just ignore a $7.5 million revenue stream. (IIRC, our revenue was around $2.5 million during the Wooly years - dax would probably remember better.)
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I don't think our AD gives much of a crap about basketball.
Do you think our AD cares about its bottom line?
i think it knows football is the single most important thing to the bottom line. i think they would pay less for a coach if they could, even if it meant not winning as much as we do now. i think they can do the math and realize that k-state basketball isn't going to generate much more revenue than it does now. attendance is stagnant and students and young alumni don't donate enough.
They can also look at the revenues before Huggs and realize they can be a lot smaller. Of course football is most important, but you don't just ignore a $7.5 million revenue stream. (IIRC, our revenue was around $2.5 million during the Wooly years - dax would probably remember better.)
Basketball revenue at the end of the 05-06 school year (Wooly's last year) was $3.5 million. Expenses were about $2.9 million.
Basketball revenue at the end of the 06-07 school year (Huggie's year) was $5.3 million. Expenses were about $4 million.
Basketball revenue at the end of last school year was $7.5 million. Expenses were about $5 million.
That's an increase in annual profit of about $1 million, for those keeping score at home.
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still meh.
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:zzz:
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$1 million makes up about 10 percent of the total profit our athletic department brings in annually. That seems significant to me, especially when you are building a basketball practice facility and making major renovations to a football stadium. You lose Frank and you easily lose that million, probably more.
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Our profit was 25mil. So, no, 1mil is not 10%
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#notworried
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I'm so tired of worrying about this crap every year. Yeah, Frank is great blah blah blah. We need to pay him whatever he wants blah blah blah.
I like that we win our 20 games and go to the tourney.
But a few things to consider...
Frank Martin was a rough ridin' nobody before K-State. And he'd still be a nobody today were it not for this school.
Martin's recruiting has sucked. Very much so. We've never sniffed a conference title. We crap our pants in every BigXii tourney, save 09-10. We crap our pants in every NCAA tourney, save 09-10.
But yeah, we get our 20 wins and advance to the round of 32 every year.
And for that.. Martin gets to hold this school hostage every rough ridin' off season. If the rumors are true and he's floating his name around, the dude can go eff himself.
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I'm so tired of worrying about this crap every year. Yeah, Frank is great blah blah blah. We need to pay him whatever he wants blah blah blah.
I like that we win our 20 games and go to the tourney.
But a few things to consider...
Frank Martin was a rough ridin' nobody before K-State. And he'd still be a nobody today were it not for this school.
Martin's recruiting has sucked. Very much so. We've never sniffed a conference title. We crap our pants in every BigXii tourney, save 09-10. We crap our pants in every NCAA tourney, save 09-10.
But yeah, we get our 20 wins and advance to the round of 32 every year.
And for that.. Martin gets to hold this school hostage every rough ridin' off season. If the rumors are true and he's floating his name around, the dude can go eff himself.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
#teamfrank
Martin isn't holding anyone hostage, he's getting his. I don't blame him. He is going nowhere, save for a raise at KSU I'd say.
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Our profit was 25mil. So, no, 1mil is not 10%
I should have clarified. I am referring to profit generated by athletic events only (ticket sales, radio and tv contracts, etc). That would exclude contributions, which make up the other 14 million that is included in your 25 million figure. I probably should have included contributions seeing as they will also take a dive if currie let's frank walk out the door.
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#notworried
I'd like to use this as an opportunity for KSU fans to remind John Currie that he's more expendable than a coach.
As far as I'm concerned, we can replace him with Dax and be just fine.
(Love ya, Dax)
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I'm so tired of worrying about this crap every year. Yeah, Frank is great blah blah blah. We need to pay him whatever he wants blah blah blah.
I like that we win our 20 games and go to the tourney.
But a few things to consider...
Frank Martin was a rough ridin' nobody before K-State. And he'd still be a nobody today were it not for this school.
Martin's recruiting has sucked. Very much so. We've never sniffed a conference title. We crap our pants in every BigXii tourney, save 09-10. We crap our pants in every NCAA tourney, save 09-10.
But yeah, we get our 20 wins and advance to the round of 32 every year.
And for that.. Martin gets to hold this school hostage every rough ridin' off season. If the rumors are true and he's floating his name around, the dude can go eff himself.
Belvis post
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I don't think our AD gives much of a crap about basketball.
Do you think our AD cares about its bottom line?
i think it knows football is the single most important thing to the bottom line. i think they would pay less for a coach if they could, even if it meant not winning as much as we do now. i think they can do the math and realize that k-state basketball isn't going to generate much more revenue than it does now. attendance is stagnant and students and young alumni don't donate enough.
They can also look at the revenues before Huggs and realize they can be a lot smaller. Of course football is most important, but you don't just ignore a $7.5 million revenue stream. (IIRC, our revenue was around $2.5 million during the Wooly years - dax would probably remember better.)
Basketball revenue at the end of the 05-06 school year (Wooly's last year) was $3.5 million. Expenses were about $2.9 million.
Basketball revenue at the end of the 06-07 school year (Huggie's year) was $5.3 million. Expenses were about $4 million.
Basketball revenue at the end of last school year was $7.5 million. Expenses were about $5 million.
That's an increase in annual profit of about $1 million, for those keeping score at home.
Where did those numbers come from? I would have expected a much larger increase in revenue from Huggins to current state. There has been premium seating added on the floor and the loge boxes, the attendance is higher, the ticket prices are higher, the apparel sales are up, the television revenues are up, we've added the KC/ICT games, the ad revenue is up, the tournament revenue actually exists, and the conference in making more money.
There is room for further revenue growth. At some point Bramlage will be overhauled which will certainly add more premium seating, the media rights for all tiers will increase, including the overlooked Learfield deal, everything I mentioned outside of the atendance revenue should continue to improve as the basketball program continues to do well.
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Martin's recruiting has sucked. Very much so. We've never sniffed a conference title. We crap our pants in every BigXii tourney, save 09-10. We crap our pants in every NCAA tourney, save 09-10.
We usually play to our seed, that's not "shitting our pants." Martin's recruiting does not suck, it is average to above average. Also, you rough ridin' dumbass, it's either we keep Martin or we get a piece of crap mid-major coach. That's what Kansas State does.
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Martin's recruiting has sucked. Very much so. We've never sniffed a conference title. We crap our pants in every BigXii tourney, save 09-10. We crap our pants in every NCAA tourney, save 09-10.
We usually play to our seed, that's not "shitting our pants." Martin's recruiting does not suck, it is average to above average. Also, you rough ridin' dumbass, it's either we keep Martin or we get a piece of crap mid-major coach. That's what Kansas State does.
:zip: don't do it mittons
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#notworried
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I'm so tired of worrying about this crap every year. Yeah, Frank is great blah blah blah. We need to pay him whatever he wants blah blah blah.
I like that we win our 20 games and go to the tourney.
But a few things to consider...
Frank Martin was a rough ridin' nobody before K-State. And he'd still be a nobody today were it not for this school.
Martin's recruiting has sucked. Very much so. We've never sniffed a conference title. We crap our pants in every BigXii tourney, save 09-10. We crap our pants in every NCAA tourney, save 09-10.
But yeah, we get our 20 wins and advance to the round of 32 every year.
And for that.. Martin gets to hold this school hostage every rough ridin' off season. If the rumors are true and he's floating his name around, the dude can go eff himself.
Are you fisting me? Like really? Would you rather have someone else? Count me as part of the group that wants to go to the second round of the NCAA tourny 80% of the time.
And as far as USCe goes? No way. Not worried in the least. Much more worried about Illinois.
Frank isn't going to start over at a parallel coaching job, and South Carolina is only parallel when being generous.
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I'm so tired of worrying about this crap every year. Yeah, Frank is great blah blah blah. We need to pay him whatever he wants blah blah blah.
I like that we win our 20 games and go to the tourney.
But a few things to consider...
Frank Martin was a rough ridin' nobody before K-State. And he'd still be a nobody today were it not for this school.
Martin's recruiting has sucked. Very much so. We've never sniffed a conference title. We crap our pants in every BigXii tourney, save 09-10. We crap our pants in every NCAA tourney, save 09-10.
But yeah, we get our 20 wins and advance to the round of 32 every year.
And for that.. Martin gets to hold this school hostage every rough ridin' off season. If the rumors are true and he's floating his name around, the dude can go eff himself.
Are you fisting me? Like really? Would you rather have someone else? Count me as part of the group that wants to go to the second round of the NCAA tourny 80% of the time.
And as far as USCe goes? No way. Not worried in the least. Much more worried about Illinois.
Frank isn't going to start over at a parallel coaching job, and South Carolina is only parallel when being generous.
:confused:
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I'm still trying to figure out why he would leave KSU for USC. I know he might be mad at Currie but USC is an enormous step down.
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I don't think our AD gives much of a crap about basketball.
Do you think our AD cares about its bottom line?
i think it knows football is the single most important thing to the bottom line. i think they would pay less for a coach if they could, even if it meant not winning as much as we do now. i think they can do the math and realize that k-state basketball isn't going to generate much more revenue than it does now. attendance is stagnant and students and young alumni don't donate enough.
They can also look at the revenues before Huggs and realize they can be a lot smaller. Of course football is most important, but you don't just ignore a $7.5 million revenue stream. (IIRC, our revenue was around $2.5 million during the Wooly years - dax would probably remember better.)
Basketball revenue at the end of the 05-06 school year (Wooly's last year) was $3.5 million. Expenses were about $2.9 million.
Basketball revenue at the end of the 06-07 school year (Huggie's year) was $5.3 million. Expenses were about $4 million.
Basketball revenue at the end of last school year was $7.5 million. Expenses were about $5 million.
That's an increase in annual profit of about $1 million, for those keeping score at home.
Where did those numbers come from? I would have expected a much larger increase in revenue from Huggins to current state. There has been premium seating added on the floor and the loge boxes, the attendance is higher, the ticket prices are higher, the apparel sales are up, the television revenues are up, we've added the KC/ICT games, the ad revenue is up, the tournament revenue actually exists, and the conference in making more money.
There is room for further revenue growth. At some point Bramlage will be overhauled which will certainly add more premium seating, the media rights for all tiers will increase, including the overlooked Learfield deal, everything I mentioned outside of the atendance revenue should continue to improve as the basketball program continues to do well.
K-State's financial report on k-statesports.com. I came across them the other day when I was trying to dig up Deb Patterson's contract. The women's team, by the way, isn't even close to breaking even.
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never would have guessed the women's team wasn't even close to breaking even.
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I would imagine this will play out about like this week's episode of The Good Wife.
Recap: Alicia (Frank) must once again face off against Louis Canning in court, but her recent financial situations cause her to think about his (Michael J. Fox aka South Carolina's) tempting job offer and leaving the firm.
Alicia's boss (BelvisNoland) reprimands her for requesting a raise when the firm gave her the chance to practice law in the first place.
Contentious partners' meeting concludes when potentially anorexic boss (Schulz) announces that Alicia (Frank) will get the raise no matter what everyone else wants.
Louis Canning (SoCarolina) tells Alicia (Frank) he feels used since his offer allowed Alicia (Frank) to leverage a better deal from her current firm (KSUCats).
I call it: The Good Coach
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what in the...
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SC before Cotton bowl: LOL man you guys are hilarious for trolling the crap out of those dumbass pigaggies. LOL great stuff, you guys win the internets.
SC now: Hey remember how we we laughed a lot at your pigaggy bait? Well, we want your bball coach now. Fair's fair. Kthxbai.
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frank and currie might not get along, but currie just built a $17m practice facility solely on the donations from people happy with frank's accomplishments.
i don't buy that he's actively working against frank. sorry, but it doesn't add up.
if currie really is developing his resume to move on to bigger and better things (which you should expect he would be doing), there's nothing better that he can do than hitch his ride to one of the most popular coaches in the game, not run him off.
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Would I rather have another coach? No.
Unless that coach was named K, Izzo, Self, Calipari, etc.
Would I rather have a coach who didn't crap on this fanbase? Yes. (IMO, that's exactly what he's doing when he refuses to squelch the rumors).
Martin is in that 2nd (maybe 3rd) tier of coaches and I'm fine with that. But, 2nd tier is 2nd tier. Let's call it what it is. Martin wants to play hardball and threaten to leave every offseason - win a damn Championship and he's golden. Otherwise, show some f'n respect and focus on recruiting better players than Nino and Doc. If he had a player who threatened to transfer every time he didn't get enough mpg, Martin would cut his ass in a heartbeat. He could very easily "get his" and negotiate his contract without openly threatening to walk off the job.
He makes our program look like a stepping stone when he floats his name out there for crap jobs like Miami and SoCa. How does that look to recruits? How does it look in the media? Martin wins 20 games and finishes outside the top#25 - and then looks at other jobs; demotions?? Welp, guess that's the ceiling of success at KSU. :dunno: What're we gonna do? Gotta go where the sunshine's brighter. A place like rough ridin' SoCa. You've got to be kidding me.
I haven't heard a single other BigXII coach's name being floated around for any jobs. Haven't heard anybody talking about the Mayor, Drew, Barnes, or any other NCAA qualifier. Only names I've heard are mid-major over achievers. Coaches who are looking for that promotion to launch their career. Oh yeah, and Frank Martin. That coach at poor KSU who's obviously looking for a better job. Because the K-State job blows. and we'll never sustain success. Perception is reality.
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Belvis would rather have a coach who's name isn't mentioned as a hot item every offseason.
:dubious:
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Would I rather have a coach who didn't crap on this fanbase? Yes. (IMO, that's exactly what he's doing when he refuses to squelch the rumors).
Does this still apply if it's not a rumor?
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I haven't heard a single other BigXII coach's name being floated around for any jobs. Haven't heard anybody talking about the Mayor, Drew, Barnes, or any other NCAA qualifier. Only names I've heard are mid-major over achievers. Coaches who are looking for that promotion to launch their career. Oh yeah, and Frank Martin. That coach at poor KSU who's obviously looking for a better job. Because the K-State job blows. and we'll never sustain success. Perception is reality.
If you don't like your boss, your job usually blows no matter where you are or what you're doing.
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Belvis would rather have a coach who's name isn't mentioned as a hot item every offseason.
I'd rather have a coach who wants to be at K-State and isn't "heavily interested" in another job.
"Kansas State's Frank Martin has been confirmed as a candidate with 'heavy' interest in USC, according to a source close to the situation."
Don't be a moron.
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Belvis would rather have a coach who's name isn't mentioned as a hot item every offseason.
I'd rather have a coach who wants to be at K-State and isn't "heavily interested" in another job.
"Kansas State's Frank Martin has been confirmed as a candidate with 'heavy' interest in USC, according to a source close to the situation."
Don't be a moron.
People generally have heavy interest in other jobs if they're being underpaid compared to what they would make somewhere else.
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Belvis would rather have a coach who's name isn't mentioned as a hot item every offseason.
I'd rather have a coach who wants to be at K-State and isn't "heavily interested" in another job.
"Kansas State's Frank Martin has been confirmed as a candidate with 'heavy' interest in USC, according to a source close to the situation."
Don't be a moron.
Why doesn't that make sense to you? He hates his boss, his boss hates him. He wasn't hired by his boss. He's got a BCS school that would kiss his ass and maybe give him free reign to build his own program, which he rightly or wrongly is confident he can do.
He's going to have heavy interest in every D-1 coaching job that exists given the status quo.
EDIT: Plus, the money like Panj just said.
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Belvis would rather have a coach who's name isn't mentioned as a hot item every offseason.
I'd rather have a coach who wants to be at K-State and isn't "heavily interested" in another job.
"Kansas State's Frank Martin has been confirmed as a candidate with 'heavy' interest in USC, according to a source close to the situation."
Don't be a moron.
don't take job hunting/contract negotiating so personal.
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If you don't like your boss, your job usually blows no matter where you are or what you're doing.
Usually. Of course, "DI basketball coach with 1.5mil base salary w/ $17 mil practice facility being built for you" is probably one of those exceptions.
But Currie is mean, so yeah, I completely understand why Frank wants out. I mean, John has made it extremely difficult for Frank to succeed here.
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I haven't heard a single other BigXII coach's name being floated around for any jobs. Haven't heard anybody talking about the Mayor, Drew, Barnes, or any other NCAA qualifier. Only names I've heard are mid-major over achievers. Coaches who are looking for that promotion to launch their career. Oh yeah, and Frank Martin. That coach at poor KSU who's obviously looking for a better job. Because the K-State job blows. and we'll never sustain success. Perception is reality.
Let's see...
Texas - Rick Barnes. Texas, yeah.
Oklahoma - Lon Kruger. 1st year from a mid major
Texas A&M - Billy Kennedy. 1st year from a mid major, has the shakes
Texas Tech - Billy G. Great year he had this year.
Baylor - Scott Drew. Great in-game coach and well respected obviously. Oh, and btw... (https://twitter.com/#!/Sapakoff/status/182489473899171840)
Missouri - Frank Haith. Was lucky to get the Mizz job, choked in ncaa.
Kansas - Bill Self. Next.
Iowa State - The Mayor. 2nd year. can he bring in high school talent?
Oklahoma State - Travis Ford. LOL
Kansas State - Frank Martin - 5 straight 20 win seasons, best ksu coach in last 20 years.
Yeah, i have no idea why Frank is the only ones name being floated out there.
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If you don't like your boss, your job usually blows no matter where you are or what you're doing.
Usually. Of course, "DI basketball coach with 1.5mil base salary w/ $17 mil practice facility being built for you" is probably one of those exceptions.
But Currie is mean, so yeah, I completely understand why Frank wants out. I mean, John has made it extremely difficult for Frank to succeed here.
Well, until he becomes "D1 basketball coach with a 2+ base salary and a boss he gets along with. Then he becomes that exception.
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He's got a BCS school that would kiss his ass and maybe give him free reign to build his own program, which he rightly or wrongly is confident he can do.
Frank currently has free reign to build his own program. He's got the resources. Anybody arguing that Currie is hampering his ability to win games is delusional.
$$$ is important too. No doubt. But it seems like you don't often hear other major BCS coaches actively campaigning for crap jobs as a negotiating tool in contract discussions. Why is that? This is the 3rd time for Martin?
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A coach that really wants to be at K-State is Jim Wooldridge or someone like him. Hoping for a lifer here is silly. JMHO.
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He's got a BCS school that would kiss his ass and maybe give him free reign to build his own program, which he rightly or wrongly is confident he can do.
Frank currently has free reign to build his own program. He's got the resources. Anybody arguing that Currie is hampering his ability to win games is delusional.
$$$ is important too. No doubt. But it seems like you don't often hear other major BCS coaches actively campaigning for crap jobs as a negotiating tool in contract discussions. Why is that? This is the 3rd time for Martin?
Aside from his Miami comment last year, when has Frank ever actively campaigned for any job besides KSU? Show me something beyond a blog post.
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A coach that really wants to be at K-State is Jim Wooldridge or someone like him. Hoping for a lifer here is silly. JMHO.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this
If they match his salary or pay more he's gone for sure. all you currieites are to blame.
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Well, until he becomes "D1 basketball coach with a 2+ base salary and a boss he gets along with. Then he becomes that exception.
Ahh, I see. The Frank saga will conclude itself when John starts being nicer and Frank makes 2mil+.
Until then, Frank is living out his worst nightmare here in Manhattan. Completely understand. Life must be tough for Frank.
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Selfishly, I really want Frank to stick around long enough to have it all come together one more time like 09-10, with experienced guards, athletic big men, a Lu-type foul machine, a Jamar/Dom type wing, and make it to the Final Four. I just don't know if we will have a 1-2 guard combo like Denis/Jake any time in the near future.
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A coach that really wants to be at K-State is Jim Wooldridge or someone like him. Hoping for a lifer here is silly. JMHO.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this
If they match his salary or pay more he's gone for sure. all you currieites are to blame.
Why? Is SoCa a demotion or am I just completely naiive. I thought that Martin/Huggins had put K-State basketball back onto the map. I guess not.
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A coach that really wants to be at K-State is Jim Wooldridge or someone like him. Hoping for a lifer here is silly. JMHO.
this makes me really blue :embarrassed: :frown: :cry: :bawl:
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Frank currently has free reign to build his own program. He's got the resources. Anybody arguing that Currie is hampering his ability to win games is delusional.
Do you think it may be that it's not about winning games and more personal? Again, you may be awesome at your job, but if you don't like your boss and he's paying you 20% less than you'd get somewhere else, what do you think you're going to do? Nothing? You won't even consider polishing up your resume?
$$$ is important too. No doubt. But it seems like you don't often hear other major BCS coaches actively campaigning for crap jobs as a negotiating tool in contract discussions. Why is that? This is the 3rd time for Martin?
This happens all of the time. Mike Anderson got how many extensions at Mizzou before he got his dream job at Arkansas?
Look, in all forms of work, people will go out and interview if they're unhappy. If the relationship can be salvaged, they will go back to their current employer with the new offer and say, "Can you match or exceed this?" If yes, they stay. If no, they go.
You're kind of building a straw man argument for how good he has it here with all of these superficial things. What influences whether or not someone stays at a job, be it as a basketball coach or an accountant, is whether or not they like the people they work with, and the most important relationship, by far, is the one they have with their supervisor. If that relationship is bad, it doesn't matter how good you may think they have it.
This is People Management 101.
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Seriously, if we pay competitive $$$, why should we not expect to retain Martin forever*? And I do believe 1.5mil in 2010 and 1.8-2mil in 2012-2013 is quite competitive.
*exception - teams with NCAA championships in the last 2 decades.
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http://www2.indystar.com/NCAA_financial_reports/revenue_stat/show_school_comparison
prolly won't have to deal with 4 ad's in 5 years either.
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Well, until he becomes "D1 basketball coach with a 2+ base salary and a boss he gets along with. Then he becomes that exception.
Ahh, I see. The Frank saga will conclude itself when John starts being nicer and Frank makes 2mil+.
Until then, Frank is living out his worst nightmare here in Manhattan. Completely understand. Life must be tough for Frank.
It's alarmingly clear that you do not and have not managed people in your life.
It doesn't matter if you make 35k or 1.5mil, if you feel you're being disrespected and undervalued, you will look for a situation where you don't feel that way.
People who make comments about, "Oh, no. That poor millionaire basketball coach has it so rough," are incredibly naive. It's not about the money. It's about feeling that you're being disrespected and undervalued.
Until you sit in a room with someone and try to negotiate salary, you will not understand this point. It's usually not about the money at all. It's about feeling valued.
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Frank currently has free reign to build his own program. He's got the resources. Anybody arguing that Currie is hampering his ability to win games is delusional.
Do you think it may be that it's not about winning games and more personal? Again, you may be awesome at your job, but if you don't like your boss and he's paying you 20% less than you'd get somewhere else, what do you think you're going to do? Nothing? You won't even consider polishing up your resume?
$$$ is important too. No doubt. But it seems like you don't often hear other major BCS coaches actively campaigning for crap jobs as a negotiating tool in contract discussions. Why is that? This is the 3rd time for Martin?
This happens all of the time. Mike Anderson got how many extensions at Mizzou before he got his dream job at Arkansas?
Look, in all forms of work, people will go out and interview if they're unhappy. If the relationship can be salvaged, they will go back to their current employer with the new offer and say, "Can you match or exceed this?" If yes, they stay. If no, they go.
You're kind of building a straw man argument for how good he has it here with all of these superficial things. What influences whether or not someone stays at a job, be it as a basketball coach or an accountant, is whether or not they like the people they work with, and the most important relationship, by far, is the one they have with their supervisor. If that relationship is bad, it doesn't matter how good you may think they have it.
This is People Management 101.
If I respected my employer (employer being KSU, not Currie), I'd approach my raise in a more tactful way than Martin. I wouldn't express "heavy interest" in another job for the purpose of getting more money with my current employer. Martin's going to get his raise. We all know it. It's just bullshit that this fanbase, that's been nothing but loyal to MArtin, has to deal with his off-season drama every year.
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Frank currently has free reign to build his own program. He's got the resources. Anybody arguing that Currie is hampering his ability to win games is delusional.
I might have used the wrong terminology. I mean being the CEO of basketball with no Currie taking notes on how many fucks Frank says during a game or doing anything that Frank rightly or wrongly categorizes as some dorkstore meddling with his operation. Basically being able to do whatever he wants other than actually murdering Merriewether on the sideline at Mizzou (even that maybe should be OK).
Panj is doing a good job making the points I'm making without the snark.
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Seriously, if we pay competitive $$$, why should we not expect to retain Martin forever*? And I do believe 1.5mil in 2010 and 1.8-2mil in 2012-2013 is quite competitive.
*exception - teams with NCAA championships in the last 2 decades.
What we pay is a competitive salary for an average coach in a BCS conference. Frank Martin is a good coach in a BCS conference.
Also, your value is what someone else is willing to pay. Not what you currently make.
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Frank currently has free reign to build his own program. He's got the resources. Anybody arguing that Currie is hampering his ability to win games is delusional.
Do you think it may be that it's not about winning games and more personal? Again, you may be awesome at your job, but if you don't like your boss and he's paying you 20% less than you'd get somewhere else, what do you think you're going to do? Nothing? You won't even consider polishing up your resume?
$$$ is important too. No doubt. But it seems like you don't often hear other major BCS coaches actively campaigning for crap jobs as a negotiating tool in contract discussions. Why is that? This is the 3rd time for Martin?
This happens all of the time. Mike Anderson got how many extensions at Mizzou before he got his dream job at Arkansas?
Look, in all forms of work, people will go out and interview if they're unhappy. If the relationship can be salvaged, they will go back to their current employer with the new offer and say, "Can you match or exceed this?" If yes, they stay. If no, they go.
You're kind of building a straw man argument for how good he has it here with all of these superficial things. What influences whether or not someone stays at a job, be it as a basketball coach or an accountant, is whether or not they like the people they work with, and the most important relationship, by far, is the one they have with their supervisor. If that relationship is bad, it doesn't matter how good you may think they have it.
This is People Management 101.
If I respected my employer (employer being KSU, not Currie), I'd approach my raise in a more tactful way than Martin. I wouldn't express "heavy interest" in another job for the purpose of getting more money with my current employer. Martin's going to get his raise. We all know it. It's just bullshit that this fanbase, that's been nothing but loyal to MArtin, has to deal with his off-season drama every year.
why do you trust an unnamed blogger on a website so much that Frank is "heavily interested"?
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If I respected my employer (employer being KSU, not Currie), I'd approach my raise in a more tactful way than Martin. I wouldn't express "heavy interest" in another job for the purpose of getting more money with my current employer. Martin's going to get his raise. We all know it. It's just bullshit that this fanbase, that's been nothing but loyal to MArtin, has to deal with his off-season drama every year.
No, you assume he will. His boss may not be willing to give him a raise unless someone comes at him with a better offer.
You are assuming Currie will do the right thing. Do not make that assumption when the manager/employee have a strained relationship.
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don't take job hunting/contract negotiating so personal.
Hard to not take something you're emotionally invested in personally, even if it not a logical approach to life.
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It's alarmingly clear that you do not and have not managed people in your life.
It doesn't matter if you make 35k or 1.5mil, if you feel you're being disrespected and undervalued, you will look for a situation where you don't feel that way.
People who make comments about, "Oh, no. That poor millionaire basketball coach has it so rough," are incredibly naive. It's not about the money. It's about feeling that you're being disrespected and undervalued.
Until you sit in a room with someone and try to negotiate salary, you will not understand this point. It's usually not about the money at all. It's about feeling valued.
It's alarmingly clear that you have no idea how much respect and value this University clearly serves to Martin on a silver platter. He produces top-half basketball teams. He is paid top-half money. He needs better recruiting tools? We privately finance a $20mil practice facility so that he can teach his 2-guard how to make a 3 pointer. We parade him around the state to sold out crowds of adoring fans every single year. We buy tickets. We donate money.
If Frank doesn't feel valued, that's his problem. I don't feel sorry for him. Now, if Currie is unwilling to ever increase his 2010 salary figure, I guess you may have an argument. But we all know that isn't going to happen. salary increases are inevitable.
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no matter what happens, we should all be glad that Currie did the right thing with jamar the right way. We Are K-State!
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why do you trust an unnamed blogger on a website so much that Frank is "heavily interested"?
That unnamed blogger on a website is the very reason this thread exists.
He may be unnamed, but his "credible source" has everybody on this board fearful of Martin's departure, whether you admit it or not.
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No, you assume he will. His boss may not be willing to give him a raise unless someone comes at him with a better offer.
You are assuming Currie will do the right thing. Do not make that assumption when the manager/employee have a strained relationship.
And you assume he won't. Currie may be willing to give him a raise even if nobody else comes at him with a better offer. See 2010.
You are assuming Currie will do the wrong thing. Do not make that assumption when the manager/employee may not have a strained relationship.
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why do you trust an unnamed blogger on a website so much that Frank is "heavily interested"?
That unnamed blogger on a website is the very reason this thread exists.
He may be unnamed, but his "credible source" has everybody on this board fearful of Martin's departure, whether you admit it or not.
did you even SEE my hashtag?
#notworried (fwiw)
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#teambelvis
The reason his name gets floated for South Carolina and DePaul and Miami is because that is the highest level of school that would actually be interested in him. It's obvious he wants to be floated with Illinois, but no one pays any attention because no one thinks Illinois would want him.
I'm fine with Frank not being a lifer, and want him to be paid more, but the way he and Katz treat negotiations is pretty obnoxious.
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why do you trust an unnamed blogger on a website so much that Frank is "heavily interested"?
That unnamed blogger on a website is the very reason this thread exists.
He may be unnamed, but his "credible source" has everybody on this board fearful of Martin's departure, whether you admit it or not.
I'm not afraid. I don't believe Frank will leave for a crap job like USC. And I don't believe the relationship between Frank and Currie is as bad as many of you do.
Anyone can post whatever they want online. And Frank simply can't go around publicly denying every report. He'd be stupid to.
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no matter what happens, we should all be glad that Currie did the right thing with jamar the right way. We Are K-State!
I'm glad that Currie paid Frank. I'm glad Currie built a $20mil practice facility. I'm glad Currie is building a +$100mil press box. I'm glad Currie has AD revenue pouring in at a rate never realized at poor, little KSU before. I'm glad Currie emphasizes athletic dominance over our in-state rival.
I'm also cognizant that the very contrarians on this board pissing and moaning about Currie are the same people who were shitting their pants about Currie leaving us for Tennessee last year.
I think Frank will get his salary bump. We've got the money to afford it (thanks to Currie). If he refuses to do it, then my opinion of Currie will change. Maybe I'm blind, but I'm willing to give Currie the benefit of the doubt.
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I might have used the wrong terminology. I mean being the CEO of basketball with no Currie taking notes on how many fucks Frank says during a game or doing anything that Frank rightly or wrongly categorizes as some dorkstore meddling with his operation. Basically being able to do whatever he wants other than actually murdering Merriewether on the sideline at Mizzou (even that maybe should be OK).
what meddling has Currie done? Stopping by Frank's cube every hour asking about those TPS reports?
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I enjoy Belvis.
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I might have used the wrong terminology. I mean being the CEO of basketball with no Currie taking notes on how many fucks Frank says during a game or doing anything that Frank rightly or wrongly categorizes as some dorkstore meddling with his operation. Basically being able to do whatever he wants other than actually murdering Merriewether on the sideline at Mizzou (even that maybe should be OK).
what meddling has Currie done? Stopping by Frank's cube every hour asking about those TPS reports?
that Frank rightly or wrongly categorizes as some dorkstore meddling with his operation.
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I'm not afraid. I don't believe Frank will leave for a crap job like USC.
That's fine, but he still is taking a giant dump on KSU when he lets his name get out there like it has. Huggs at least went home to a somewhat better situation.
I might have used the wrong terminology. I mean being the CEO of basketball with no Currie taking notes on how many fucks Frank says during a game or doing anything that Frank rightly or wrongly categorizes as some dorkstore meddling with his operation. Basically being able to do whatever he wants other than actually murdering Merriewether on the sideline at Mizzou (even that maybe should be OK).
what meddling has Currie done? Stopping by Frank's cube every hour asking about those TPS reports?
that Frank rightly or wrongly categorizes as some dorkstore meddling with his operation.
frank's a dumbass and needs to...I don't know...act like a man?
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good sources indicate nothing to worry about
https://twitter.com/#!/goodforanother
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frank's a dumbass and needs to...I don't know...act like a man?
Yeah, there's lots of dumb personality-trait stuff that Frank does. I give him a pass on almost all of it because I'm a sellout for wins.
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frank's a dumbass and needs to...I don't know...act like a man?
Yeah, there's lots of dumb personality-trait stuff that Frank does. I give him a pass on almost all of it because I'm a sellout for wins.
I'm willing to give a pass for everything basketball related, but this isn't basketball related.*
*I guess it is, because the this annual bullshit will ultimately cost us wins if it keeps up (even if he stays).
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If I'm Frank, and I'm arguably the best basketball coach K-State has had, certainly the best in the modern era, and our athletic department made $25MM in profit last year, I want a rough ridin' raise. Period.
I could give a crap how he decides to go about it. There are approximately 1000 K-State fans even aware that Frank's name is being mentioned in connection with the South Carolina job.
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No, you assume he will. His boss may not be willing to give him a raise unless someone comes at him with a better offer.
You are assuming Currie will do the right thing. Do not make that assumption when the manager/employee have a strained relationship.
And you assume he won't. Currie may be willing to give him a raise even if nobody else comes at him with a better offer. See 2010.
You are assuming Currie will do the wrong thing. Do not make that assumption when the manager/employee may not have a strained relationship.
Frank was being paid, what, 700k in 2010 as the Big 12 Coach of the Year?
If we didn't give him a raise, we would have looked disgustingly cheap.
And we know that they do have a strained relationship. This isn't an assumption. It's out there in the open.
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frank's a dumbass and needs to...I don't know...act like a man?
Yeah, there's lots of dumb personality-trait stuff that Frank does. I give him a pass on almost all of it because I'm a sellout for wins.
I'm willing to give a pass for everything basketball related, but this isn't basketball related.*
*I guess it is, because the this annual bullshit will ultimately cost us wins if it keeps up (even if he stays).
Link please.
I feely admit I find this tactic annoying and boorish. But why do you find it so impossible to think that frank feels he has to fight for his right to party? Like trim this all comes back to the currie relationship for me because we absolutey know that it sucks. I begin and end every thought about frank's behavior with regards to currie with the fact that they don't get along in mind.
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Yeah, there's lots of dumb personality-trait stuff that Frank does. I give him a pass on almost all of it because I'm a sellout for wins.
I give him a pass too. But, this contract stuff makes our school look bad, and that pisses me off. I dunno, maybe I'm too thin skinned. But, I'm surrounded by KU douche nozzles in KC who are all like..
"Heard Martin's going to SC.. Why would he go there? SC sucks.. Welp, guess it's still a better job than KSU."
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Yeah, there's lots of dumb personality-trait stuff that Frank does. I give him a pass on almost all of it because I'm a sellout for wins.
I give him a pass too. But, this contract stuff makes our school look bad, and that pisses me off. I dunno, maybe I'm too thin skinned. But, I'm surrounded by KU douche nozzles in KC who are all like..
"Heard Martin's going to SC.. Why would he go there? SC sucks.. Welp, guess it's still a better job than KSU."
Choke them.
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There are approximately 1000 K-State fans even aware that Frank's name is being mentioned in connection with the South Carolina job.
Considering Petro mentioned it on his show the other day...
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Frank was being paid, what, 700k in 2010 as the Big 12 Coach of the Year?
If we didn't give him a raise, we would have looked disgustingly cheap.
And we did give him a raise. $1.5mil base + incentives. Remember, Frank was all crying about his childhood and how much he loved K-State?
I remember it. I watched the press conference.
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Link please.
If you have an example of something Currie is doing to piss off Frank that is basketball related, I'd love to see it. Belvis has listed plenty of things that Currie has done for him. I mean I guess you could consider the Jamar situation, but I would guess 95% of AD's would have acted the exact same way.
I feely admit I find this tactic annoying and boorish. But why do you find it so impossible to think that frank feels he has to fight for his right to party? Like trim this all comes back to the currie relationship for me because we absolutey know that it sucks. I begin and end every thought about frank's behavior with regards to currie with the fact that they don't get along in mind.
I don't really give a crap how Frank feels about Currie, he's acting like a dumbass when he does this crap. If he wants to screw Currie by going to South Carolina, he's a childish dumbass. If it's simple posturing so he can party hardy, Frank's still a childish dumbass who is making is current job look like crap.
Frank quite simply isn't good enough to be considered for a job that wouldn't make it seem like he's a dumbass for either taking or using for leverage. The best thing Frank can do for himself is get better so he can be considered for those jobs.
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this all comes back to the currie relationship for me because we absolutey know that it sucks.
We don't know this. That's the thing. Clearly Frank and Currie don't see eye to eye on all things. And I'm sure Currie does things that piss Frank off, and vice versa.
It's an employment relationship. their grown ass men in a cut-throat occupation. They don't have to be besties that send eachother Easter baskets and birthday cards.
Frank does the winning. Currie writes the checks. That's how this works. If Frank gets mad that Currie wants him to stop cursing, he should just look at his bank balance and shut his mouth.
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this all comes back to the currie relationship for me because we absolutey know that it sucks.
We don't know this. That's the thing. Clearly Frank and Currie don't see eye to eye on all things. And I'm sure Currie does things that piss Frank off, and vice versa.
It's an employment relationship. their grown ass men in a cut-throat occupation. They don't have to be besties that send eachother Easter baskets and birthday cards.
Frank does the winning. Currie writes the checks. That's how this works. If Frank gets mad that Currie wants him to stop cursing, he should just look at his bank balance and shut his mouth.
FWIW from what I was told, Frank cleaned up his act because he felt the fanbase was out of control, not because Currie told him to.
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when did Frank clean up his act? Did I completely miss something or was it after Frank clearly called Spradling a "rough ridin' coward" at the end of a win over a top 10 team?
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when did Frank clean up his act? Did I completely miss something or was it after Frank clearly called Spradling a "rough ridin' coward" at the end of a win over a top 10 team?
To be fair Will made the 2nd free throw.
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Link please.
If you have an example of something Currie is doing to piss off Frank that is basketball related, I'd love to see it. Belvis has listed plenty of things that Currie has done for him. I mean I guess you could consider the Jamar situation, but I would guess 95% of AD's would have acted the exact same way.
I feely admit I find this tactic annoying and boorish. But why do you find it so impossible to think that frank feels he has to fight for his right to party? Like trim this all comes back to the currie relationship for me because we absolutey know that it sucks. I begin and end every thought about frank's behavior with regards to currie with the fact that they don't get along in mind.
I don't really give a crap how Frank feels about Currie, he's acting like a dumbass when he does this crap. If he wants to screw Currie by going to South Carolina, he's a childish dumbass. If it's simple posturing so he can party hardy, Frank's still a childish dumbass who is making is current job look like crap.
Frank quite simply isn't good enough to be considered for a job that wouldn't make it seem like he's a dumbass for either taking or using for leverage. The best thing Frank can do for himself is get better so he can be considered for those jobs.
You asserted Frank Watch was going to start costing us games. So who are the comparables and how many games?
I can't believe you actually typed out this:
Frank quite simply isn't good enough to be considered for a job that wouldn't make it seem like he's a dumbass for either taking or using for leverage. The best thing Frank can do for himself is get better so he can be considered for those jobs.
And yet still think this is all about Frank.
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this all comes back to the currie relationship for me because we absolutey know that it sucks.
We don't know this. That's the thing. Clearly Frank and Currie don't see eye to eye on all things. And I'm sure Currie does things that piss Frank off, and vice versa.
It's an employment relationship. their grown ass men in a cut-throat occupation. They don't have to be besties that send eachother Easter baskets and birthday cards.
Frank does the winning. Currie writes the checks. That's how this works. If Frank gets mad that Currie wants him to stop cursing, he should just look at his bank balance and shut his mouth.
Yeah, the AD witch hunt at KU over coach-player relations certainly gives me a lot to look forward to if Currie decides to toe the line. I guess we'll be in prime position to bring in a Turner Gill type to get us on the path to rightousness.
And Currie may well write the checks, but he sure doesn't fill the bank account. He wants to pull rank of Frank? He needs to be reminded who he works for.
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yep most beloved :lol:
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Yeah, there's lots of dumb personality-trait stuff that Frank does. I give him a pass on almost all of it because I'm a sellout for wins.
I give him a pass too. But, this contract stuff makes our school look bad, and that pisses me off. I dunno, maybe I'm too thin skinned. But, I'm surrounded by KU douche nozzles in KC who are all like..
"Heard Martin's going to SC.. Why would he go there? SC sucks.. Welp, guess it's still a better job than KSU."
Choke them.
Sounds like the problem is being personally owned by retards rather than any actual KSU/Frank details
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yep most beloved :lol:
No kidding. I feel like I've got to defend Frank to even goEMAW.
:sdeek:
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when did Frank clean up his act? Did I completely miss something or was it after Frank clearly called Spradling a "rough ridin' coward" at the end of a win over a top 10 team?
To be fair, I would assume that his opinion of Sprads is cumulative, rather than specifically based off the win over a top 10 team.
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Yeah, the AD witch hunt at KU over coach-player relations certainly gives me a lot to look forward to if Currie decides to toe the line. I guess we'll be in prime position to bring in a Turner Gill type to get us on the path to rightousness.
And Currie may well write the checks, but he sure doesn't fill the bank account. He wants to pull rank of Frank? He needs to be reminded who he works for.
what the eff are you talking about? serious question.
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You asserted Frank Watch was going to start costing us games. So who are the comparables and how many games?
Granted, I don't have comparables. Most coaches in Frank's position wouldn't be floating for jobs that are clearly worse situations. I think going through this every other year will hurt recruiting which would lead to fewer wins (approximately 2 conference games per year).
I can't believe you actually typed out this:
Frank quite simply isn't good enough to be considered for a job that wouldn't make it seem like he's a dumbass for either taking or using for leverage. The best thing Frank can do for himself is get better so he can be considered for those jobs.
And yet still think this is all about Frank.
When did I say it is all about Frank? My point stands even if Currie is 100% responsible for Frank's unhappyness. When you add up the things Belvis listed
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btw, based on Frank's on-the-court record (including recruiting) over the past 5 years, to what number should his salary be raised and why?
Throw out some numbers. what $$$ should make Frank happy?
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btw, based on Frank's on-the-court record (including recruiting) over the past 5 years, to what number should his salary be raised and why?
Throw out some numbers. what $$$ should make Frank happy?
make a list of all of the coaches that have made the tournament 4 out of the last five years. add their salaries together and then divide by the number of people on that list.
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This is a year old, but I'd say Frank should be pretty happy with $1.7 or 1.8, and that's probably about what he deserves.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2011-coaches-salary-database.htm
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I'll just drop this reminder in . . .
In a month Frank will be paid a $250K bonus just for being at K-State. (Also don't forget he was paid another $468K bonus just for signing his re-done contract a couple of years ago).
He's also going to get a $104K bonus for reaching the NCAA tourney, he's going to get a $25K bonus for for K-State's rising APR score, he might get another $50K bonus if men's basketball's GSR is higher than the student body.
Frank's total salary/bonus compensation (does not include the laundry list of fringe benefits like cars, clubs, travel, expense accounts) for this year . . . projected $1.679 million to $1.729 million.
Oh, don't forget basketball camps, probably pushes Frank near the $2 milllion mark.
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make a list of all of the coaches that have made the tournament 4 out of the last five years. add their salaries together and then divide by the number of people on that list.
Along the same lines of the "Frank is one of the best coaches in America" talking point...
Currie renegotiated Martin's contract two years ago which included annual increases of $100k, $250k 'bonus' this year for staying for the past two seasons and another $500k bonus if he stays until year 5 of that agreement. His team finished 3rd in the Big 12 the year he renegotiated, finished 4th last year and 5th this year.
But, yeah should be paid elite money like elite coaches becuase he's advanced to the 2nd round of the tourney a lot.
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No, you assume he will. His boss may not be willing to give him a raise unless someone comes at him with a better offer.
You are assuming Currie will do the right thing. Do not make that assumption when the manager/employee have a strained relationship.
And you assume he won't. Currie may be willing to give him a raise even if nobody else comes at him with a better offer. See 2010.
You are assuming Currie will do the wrong thing. Do not make that assumption when the manager/employee may not have a strained relationship.
frank actually did have an offer in 2010. maybe that's why he feels like he needs another. currie low balled the hell out of him before it.
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yeah, depaul offered frank a lot of money
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:jerk:
Currie and Frank will always have different personalities, and I think whether those differences cross the line into who has what authority when it comes to running the program, I don't think will be the deciding factor. I don't think Frank leaves KSU for power struggles that can be resolved internally (despite his admitted lack of ability to "be a man") and I don't think Frank leaves KSU because he doesn't have an AD that will go out with him and take some temperatures at Mustangs.
Main talking point that I just don't buy is that he's disrespecting the KSU fans by not squashing the rumors. We know, and he knows, that he is a tier 2 coach, but probably like a tier 3 or 4 recruiter. Whether or not you buy the "you can't recruit in Manhattan" line, he has been sitting for the last few years on a gradually decreasing talent level. For him to NOT consider other jobs/locations would be dumb.
A (probably better reasoned that it actually is) possible thought process for Frank:
"Hmmm SC is talking to me about their job"
"I do like it here in MHK, and these fans are stupid loyal to me, but boy oh boy as soon as this gets out it's going to blow up on the message boards, but I mean I don't really give much of a crap about those any way."
"Let's see... my only real recruiting pipeline for me personally is Miami/Florida, and I might have a better shot at getting those kids to come up to SC than MHK, plus once Rod leaves here... I'm nervous"
"Well... I don't honestly want to leave, but I should probably listen to those guys, and so I don't want to definitely squash those rumors, plus who knows maybe more monies for me?"
"But damn... those damn message boards and Sports talk radio shows... oh wait I DON'T CARE"
"Welp, I guess the only thing I can really do is stay quiet on this one"
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I'll just drop this reminder in . . .
In a month Frank will be paid a $250K bonus just for being at K-State. (Also don't forget he was paid another $468K bonus just for signing his re-done contract a couple of years ago).
He's also going to get a $104K bonus for reaching the NCAA tourney, he's going to get a $25K bonus for for K-State's rising APR score, he might get another $50K bonus if men's basketball's GSR is higher than the student body.
Frank's total salary/bonus compensation (does not include the laundry list of fringe benefits like cars, clubs, travel, expense accounts) for this year . . . projected $1.679 million to $1.729 million.
Check your source.
Just kidding, but in reality, over the past 24 months Currie has given Frank a nice contract and built him a $17 million basketball only training facility that is the best in the conference.
What more can he? I am firmly pro-Frank but after awhile it gets tough to figure out what exactly he wants...
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Not sure how much he should make. I think he deserves more if that is what he wants. He has done a hell of a lot for Cat Hoops. I mean, 4-5 years ago, would anyone have even considered us having a coach invited to sit on the desk for the tourney? Granted, I know that means we lost, but it is pretty badass having Frank there again.
I do agree that this sucks and that I wish he would just pick a number and let Currie give it a thumbs up for thumbs down so we don't have to do this every year.
#teamFrank
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yeah, depaul offered frank a lot of money
yep. they ended up getting this guy instead.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=5059657
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yeah, depaul offered frank a lot of money
Oregon offered him a hell of a lot of money that year, too.
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If I'm Frank, and I'm arguably the best basketball coach K-State has had, certainly the best in the modern era, and our athletic department made $25MM in profit last year, I want a rough ridin' raise. Period.
I could give a crap how he decides to go about it. There are approximately 1000 K-State fans even aware that Frank's name is being mentioned in connection with the South Carolina job.
^^This. The whole point of turning around our athletic department financially is so that you can pay PROVEN coaches well enough to keep them from having wandering eyes. KSU doesn't have a lot of advantages, and the best way to maximize the advantage that we do have, which is coaches that are doing a great job for the most part, is to use the resources that you have to keep them here. What the hell are we going to spend that 25 million on anyway if not coaches? A rough ridin' limestone wall. Eff that. Let's lock Frank up longterm.
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How would you consider Frank's peers in the coaching business?
I would say:
Kevin Stallings (1.7 million)
Mark Turgeon (2.5 million(!))
Leonard Hamilton (1.5 million)
John Beilein (1.7 million)
Bob Huggins (1.8 million)
Jamie Dixon (1.4 million)
Lorenzo Romar (1.3 million)
Matt Painter (2.3 million)
Mike Anderson (2.2 million)
So you could maybe get Frank to $2 million without it being much of a stretch.
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one of the reasons this stuff happens every year is that Katz is his agent. I just perused the client list for KMG and Frank is easily one his biggest sources of income.
When one of your best clients spent the first half of the NFL season substitute teaching you need every extra 100G Frank can come up with.
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make a list of all of the coaches that have made the tournament 4 out of the last five years. add their salaries together and then divide by the number of people on that list.
Along the same lines of the "Frank is one of the best coaches in America" talking point...
Currie renegotiated Martin's contract two years ago which included annual increases of $100k, $250k 'bonus' this year for staying for the past two seasons and another $500k bonus if he stays until year 5 of that agreement. His team finished 3rd in the Big 12 the year he renegotiated, finished 4th last year and 5th this year.
But, yeah should be paid elite money like elite coaches becuase he's advanced to the 2nd round of the tourney a lot.
do you have a problem paying him that money? because i think we pretty much know what we have with frank and if he leaves it will cost us about the same amount of money with a very very real chance that we end up with doc sadler 2.0. do you think our hire after he leaves will be better or do you just really, really want the athletic dept to make 23.7 million instead of just 23.2. help me out here because i can't for the life of me figure out what the hell you're doing w/ this talk.
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also, dalonte was on staff when franks last salary was worked out and he's not anymore. that alone frees up 300k.
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I think he deserves more if that is what he wants.
lol, you've just summarized the majority of the thread in one very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) sentence
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make a list of all of the coaches that have made the tournament 4 out of the last five years. add their salaries together and then divide by the number of people on that list.
Along the same lines of the "Frank is one of the best coaches in America" talking point...
Currie renegotiated Martin's contract two years ago which included annual increases of $100k, $250k 'bonus' this year for staying for the past two seasons and another $500k bonus if he stays until year 5 of that agreement. His team finished 3rd in the Big 12 the year he renegotiated, finished 4th last year and 5th this year.
But, yeah should be paid elite money like elite coaches becuase he's advanced to the 2nd round of the tourney a lot.
do you have a problem paying him that money? because i think we pretty much know what we have with frank and if he leaves it will cost us about the same amount of money with a very very real chance that we end up with doc sadler 2.0. do you think our hire after he leaves will be better or do you want the athletic dept to make 23.7 million instead of just 23.2. help me out here because i can't for the life of me figure out what the hell you're doing w/ this talk.
No joke, pay attention to the Nebrasketball coaching search. As much as we think we are light years better than NU it is a pretty similar job.
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make a list of all of the coaches that have made the tournament 4 out of the last five years. add their salaries together and then divide by the number of people on that list.
Along the same lines of the "Frank is one of the best coaches in America" talking point...
Currie renegotiated Martin's contract two years ago which included annual increases of $100k, $250k 'bonus' this year for staying for the past two seasons and another $500k bonus if he stays until year 5 of that agreement. His team finished 3rd in the Big 12 the year he renegotiated, finished 4th last year and 5th this year.
But, yeah should be paid elite money like elite coaches becuase he's advanced to the 2nd round of the tourney a lot.
do you have a problem paying him that money? because i think we pretty much know what we have with frank and if he leaves it will cost us about the same amount of money with a very very real chance that we end up with doc sadler 2.0. do you think our hire after he leaves will be better or do you want the athletic dept to make 23.7 million instead of just 23.2. help me out here because i can't for the life of me figure out what the hell you're doing w/ this talk.
No joke, pay attention to the Nebrasketball coaching search. As much as we think we are light years better than NU it is a pretty similar job.
heh, no not really
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make a list of all of the coaches that have made the tournament 4 out of the last five years. add their salaries together and then divide by the number of people on that list.
Along the same lines of the "Frank is one of the best coaches in America" talking point...
Currie renegotiated Martin's contract two years ago which included annual increases of $100k, $250k 'bonus' this year for staying for the past two seasons and another $500k bonus if he stays until year 5 of that agreement. His team finished 3rd in the Big 12 the year he renegotiated, finished 4th last year and 5th this year.
But, yeah should be paid elite money like elite coaches becuase he's advanced to the 2nd round of the tourney a lot.
do you have a problem paying him that money? because i think we pretty much know what we have with frank and if he leaves it will cost us about the same amount of money with a very very real chance that we end up with doc sadler 2.0. do you think our hire after he leaves will be better or do you want the athletic dept to make 23.7 million instead of just 23.2. help me out here because i can't for the life of me figure out what the hell you're doing w/ this talk.
You didn't factor in the buyout $$ for Doc Sadler 2.0 when he goes all SLTH on our asses :bang:
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make a list of all of the coaches that have made the tournament 4 out of the last five years. add their salaries together and then divide by the number of people on that list.
Along the same lines of the "Frank is one of the best coaches in America" talking point...
Currie renegotiated Martin's contract two years ago which included annual increases of $100k, $250k 'bonus' this year for staying for the past two seasons and another $500k bonus if he stays until year 5 of that agreement. His team finished 3rd in the Big 12 the year he renegotiated, finished 4th last year and 5th this year.
But, yeah should be paid elite money like elite coaches becuase he's advanced to the 2nd round of the tourney a lot.
do you have a problem paying him that money? because i think we pretty much know what we have with frank and if he leaves it will cost us about the same amount of money with a very very real chance that we end up with doc sadler 2.0. do you think our hire after he leaves will be better or do you want the athletic dept to make 23.7 million instead of just 23.2. help me out here because i can't for the life of me figure out what the hell you're doing w/ this talk.
No joke, pay attention to the Nebrasketball coaching search. As much as we think we are light years better than NU it is a pretty similar job.
heh, no not really
true, NU does not have a blue blood in the same state
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do you have a problem paying him that money? because i think we pretty much know what we have with frank and if he leaves it will cost us about the same amount of money with a very very real chance that we end up with doc sadler 2.0. do you think our hire after he leaves will be better or do you just really, really want the athletic dept to make 23.7 million instead of just 23.2. help me out here because i can't for the life of me figure out what the hell you're doing w/ this talk.
I don't have a problem paying him 10mil a year if that's what Currie wants to do. But, if Currie doesn't want to be a moron and pay him more than what's meritted, I don't have a problem with that either.
Ultimately, I think Frank should be making in the 1.5 - 2.2 range. Which is exactly where he's at. We're not rough ridin' him on his salary. We're not rough ridin' him on facilties. We're not rough ridin' him on resources. We're paying the assistants what Frank wants. If he's unhappy and wants to make a powerplay after taking 5th in the Conference, then he's a bitch. plain and simple.
That's what I'm doing w/ this talk. Not too hard to figure out.
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i feel bad for michigancat and belvis. how sad to have gone through their entire lives without knowing the sweet, exhilarating joy of irrational hatred for another human.
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FWIW from what I was told, Frank cleaned up his act because he felt the fanbase was out of control, not because Currie told him to.
martin issued a public statement swearing off swearing, and made a noted effort to tone down his in-game emotions (despite those emotions being the foremost feature of the kstate-martin brand) because he felt like his reputation as an angry, profane coach limited his job prospects.
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belvis just owned rick daris's facial region. omg. :lol:
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I believe Belvis,pissclams, and Rusty all said Currie built Frank a training facility. Anyone who thinks this should be ignored at best slapped in the mouth at worst. That take is either amazingly stupid or highly intellectually dishonest.
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I believe Belvis,pissclams, and Rusty all said Currie built Frank a training facility. Anyone who thinks this should be ignored at best slapped in the mouth at worst. That take is either amazingly stupid or highly intellectually dishonest.
jesus christ. In that case, Frank doesn't actually win games either you semantic-arguing dolt.
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belvis just owned rick daris's facial region. omg. :lol:
no he didn't. he's been complaining for pages about frank parading around for other job offers but didn't even know that frank had other offers back in 2010 when currie initially way way low balled him before he got them and then finally paid once frank once he had offers in hand. currie set the foundation for how frank apparently needs to negotiate with him. plus he said frank should be making anywhere from 1.5-2.2. i mean why not just say he should make somewhere from one dollar to eighty bajillion dollars. that's a stupid large ballpark and frank's also right at the bottom. good lord.
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I believe Belvis,pissclams, and Rusty all said Currie built Frank a training facility. Anyone who thinks this should be ignored at best slapped in the mouth at worst. That take is either amazingly stupid or highly intellectually dishonest.
Yeah, if it were any other coach asking for a practice facility, Currie would have told the coach to GTFO :chainsaw:
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I believe Belvis, pissclams, and Rusty all said Currie built Frank a training facility. Anyone who thinks this should be ignored at best slapped in the mouth at worst. That take is either amazingly stupid or highly intellectually dishonest.
yeah, i agree.
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I believe Belvis,pissclams, and Rusty all said Currie built Frank a training facility. Anyone who thinks this should be ignored at best slapped in the mouth at worst. That take is either amazingly stupid or highly intellectually dishonest.
jesus christ. In that case, Frank doesn't actually win games either you semantic-arguing dolt.
that basketball facility was fully funded by donations. donations that happened while frank was coach. during and right after our elite eight run. that thing isn't being built if wooly is still here. i could prob make a better argument that frank built the practice facility for currie then the other way around.
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I ain't even mad about this thread
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FWIW from what I was told, Frank cleaned up his act because he felt the fanbase was out of control, not because Currie told him to.
martin issued a public statement swearing off swearing, and made a noted effort to tone down his in-game emotions (despite those emotions being the foremost feature of the kstate-martin brand) because he felt like his reputation as an angry, profane coach limited his job prospects.
no, going back to well before that Frank was making an effort to be less animated and less profane, because of the reason I listed above. This according to a friend who works with the athletic dept. regularly. the letter came much later, and ratcheted up his efforts.
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I believe Belvis,pissclams, and Rusty all said Currie built Frank a training facility. Anyone who thinks this should be ignored at best slapped in the mouth at worst. That take is either amazingly stupid or highly intellectually dishonest.
jesus christ. In that case, Frank doesn't actually win games either you semantic-arguing dolt.
that basketball facility was fully funded by donations. donations that happened while frank was coach. during and right after our elite eight run. that thing isn't being built if wooly is still here. i could prob make a better argument that frank built the practice facility for currie then the other way around.
That makes sense - I wasn't thinking of it that way. sorry for calling you a dolt MiR. Please don't slap me in the mouth.
It seems to me Currie can't be held responsible for anything but pissing off Frank?
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I believe Belvis,pissclams, and Rusty all said Currie built Frank a training facility. Anyone who thinks this should be ignored at best slapped in the mouth at worst. That take is either amazingly stupid or highly intellectually dishonest.
I mean, Currie isn't literally out there building the tranining facility. If that's the part that confused you, I'll try to dumb it down next time I make a blanket statement. Haha, no, John isn't pouring concrete and putting up sheetrock.
But in terms of actively soliciting private funds from coast to coast with Laird Veatch and working hand in hand with architects, yeah, John was highly involved.
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Someone give me the odds on where Frank coaches in 2012-2013
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make a list of all of the coaches that have made the tournament 4 out of the last five years. add their salaries together and then divide by the number of people on that list.
Along the same lines of the "Frank is one of the best coaches in America" talking point...
Currie renegotiated Martin's contract two years ago which included annual increases of $100k, $250k 'bonus' this year for staying for the past two seasons and another $500k bonus if he stays until year 5 of that agreement. His team finished 3rd in the Big 12 the year he renegotiated, finished 4th last year and 5th this year.
But, yeah should be paid elite money like elite coaches becuase he's advanced to the 2nd round of the tourney a lot.
do you have a problem paying him that money? because i think we pretty much know what we have with frank and if he leaves it will cost us about the same amount of money with a very very real chance that we end up with doc sadler 2.0. do you think our hire after he leaves will be better or do you want the athletic dept to make 23.7 million instead of just 23.2. help me out here because i can't for the life of me figure out what the hell you're doing w/ this talk.
No joke, pay attention to the Nebrasketball coaching search. As much as we think we are light years better than NU it is a pretty similar job.
heh, no not really
true, NU does not have a blue blood in the same state
or a tournament win, or basketball fans
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I believe Belvis,pissclams, and Rusty all said Currie built Frank a training facility. Anyone who thinks this should be ignored at best slapped in the mouth at worst. That take is either amazingly stupid or highly intellectually dishonest.
i said that currie built a training facility paid for by donations made because of frank's accomplishments. do you need any further help?
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the talking points have changed some much i don't even know whose side i'm on.
#teamgoemaw
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no he didn't. he's been complaining for pages about frank parading around for other job offers but didn't even know that frank had other offers back in 2010 when currie initially way way low balled him before he got them and then finally paid once frank once he had offers in hand. currie set the foundation for how frank apparently needs to negotiate with him. plus he said frank should be making anywhere from 1.5-2.2. i mean why not just say he should make somewhere from one dollar to eighty bajillion dollars. that's a stupid large ballpark and frank's also right at the bottom. good lord.
Sorry, I forgot about that DePaul job offer that was never substantiated. eff me, there goes my whole argument. Pay the man what he wants - Depaul might have offered him a job 3 years ago.
Frank is making about 1.8 with mandatory bonuses - which doesn't even include incentives he gets from Nike, for instance. Imagine, if he won a Big XII title, his incentives would probably put him over 2mil. but yeah, the difference between 1.5 - 1.8 - 2.1mil is basically the same ratio as 1-80bajillion.
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Mods, can we mod this into 2 threads?
1. Actual news or rumors about coaching changes
2. Arguments about Frank, Currie, Training Facilities, salaries, and musings about the value of the head coaching job at Kansas State
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Mods, can we mod this into 2 threads?
1. Actual news or rumors about coaching changes
2. Arguments about Frank, Currie, Training Facilities, salaries, and musings about the value of the head coaching job at Kansas State
you can't have one without fully understanding the other
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Mods, can we mod this into 2 threads?
1. Actual news or rumors about coaching changes
2. Arguments about Frank, Currie, Training Facilities, salaries, and musings about the value of the head coaching job at Kansas State
you can't have one without fully understanding the other
Fair 'nuff
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no, going back to well before that Frank was making an effort to be less animated and less profane, because of the reason I listed above. This according to a friend who works with the athletic dept. regularly. the letter came much later, and ratcheted up his efforts.
Right. the AD really has very little to do with raising money. If there is success on the court/field, money will simply pour in.
What does an athletic director do, anyway? serious question. And why do schools pay these guys close to $1mil a year.
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I believe Belvis,pissclams, and Rusty all said Currie built Frank a training facility. Anyone who thinks this should be ignored at best slapped in the mouth at worst. That take is either amazingly stupid or highly intellectually dishonest.
I mean, Currie isn't literally out there building the tranining facility. If that's the part that confused you, I'll try to dumb it down next time I make a blanket statement. Haha, no, John isn't pouring concrete and putting up sheetrock.
But in terms of actively soliciting private funds from coast to coast with Laird Veatch and working hand in hand with architects, yeah, John was highly involved.
Dumbass, any decent AD would have built that facility. As sys pointed out the wins took care of the donations, if Currie didn't build the practice facility he would have been a worse AD than the three that proceeded him. Currie does not get credit for "doing that for Frank." You can't use that as one of the reasons Frank should be grateful to Currie. Don't runaway from your point because that is precisely why you mentioned it. It was dumb and dishonest.
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I believe Belvis,pissclams, and Rusty all said Currie built Frank a training facility. Anyone who thinks this should be ignored at best slapped in the mouth at worst. That take is either amazingly stupid or highly intellectually dishonest.
I mean, Currie isn't literally out there building the tranining facility. If that's the part that confused you, I'll try to dumb it down next time I make a blanket statement. Haha, no, John isn't pouring concrete and putting up sheetrock.
But in terms of actively soliciting private funds from coast to coast with Laird Veatch and working hand in hand with architects, yeah, John was highly involved.
Oh man, an AD overseeing something he's responsible for? John could beg emaw from coast to coast with 6 win confy seasons and build some rinky dink thing to put a smile on wooly 2.0 or he could hit the road off the back of an elite 8 and do what he did.
You are making it sound like Currie willed the practice facility into being with his Southern charm and business acumen. Whatever. Pay Frank 2.0, let the tards fall where they may.
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Someone give me the odds on where Frank coaches in 2012-2013
85% He stays, 15% someone woo's him away after Currie calls him a rough ridin' respect.
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guys, #notworried is a great place to be
you all should join me!
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Dumbass, any decent AD would have built that facility. As sys pointed out the wins took care of the donations, if Currie didn't build the practice facility he would have been a worse AD than the three that proceeded him. Currie does not get credit for "doing that for Frank." You can't use that as one of the reasons Frank should be grateful to Currie. Don't runaway from your point because that is precisely why you mentioned it. It was dumb and dishonest.
Currie gets credit, the same as Martin gets credit. Martin inhereted NBA talent and Huggins' DC Assault pipeline. So, I guess he doesn't get credit for turning them into 20 game winners. I mean, if he didn't take Huggins' compilation of players to the tournament...
I can buy that logic. Pretty stuipd. But, at least I see where you're coming from.
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Dumbass, any decent AD would have built that facility. As sys pointed out the wins took care of the donations, if Currie didn't build the practice facility he would have been a worse AD than the three that proceeded him. Currie does not get credit for "doing that for Frank." You can't use that as one of the reasons Frank should be grateful to Currie. Don't runaway from your point because that is precisely why you mentioned it. It was dumb and dishonest.
Currie gets credit, the same as Martin gets credit. Martin inhereted NBA talent and Huggins' DC Assault pipeline. So, I guess he doesn't get credit for turning them into 20 game winners. I mean, if he didn't take Huggins' compilation of players to the tournament...
I can buy that logic. Pretty stuipd. But, at least I see where you're coming from.
nope. wrong.
anything good happens = frank
anything bad happens = currie
you better recognize.
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Eddie Fogler is truly responsible for building the BTF.
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Oh man, an AD overseeing something he's responsible for? John could beg emaw from coast to coast with 6 win confy seasons and build some rinky dink thing to put a smile on wooly 2.0 or he could hit the road off the back of an elite 8 and do what he did.
You are making it sound like Currie willed the practice facility into being with his Southern charm and business acumen. Whatever. Pay Frank 2.0, let the tards fall where they may.
This convo is about whether Frank wants out at KSU because Currie is a douche. We're talking about whether Currie is rough ridin' Frank.
The FACTS are that Frank is getting paid. his assistants are getting paid. he's getting the facilities that FRANK deserves and the fans want FRANK to have.
Bottom Line - why is Frank unhappy?
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no he didn't. he's been complaining for pages about frank parading around for other job offers but didn't even know that frank had other offers back in 2010 when currie initially way way low balled him before he got them and then finally paid once frank once he had offers in hand. currie set the foundation for how frank apparently needs to negotiate with him. plus he said frank should be making anywhere from 1.5-2.2. i mean why not just say he should make somewhere from one dollar to eighty bajillion dollars. that's a stupid large ballpark and frank's also right at the bottom. good lord.
Sorry, I forgot about that DePaul job offer that was never substantiated. eff me, there goes my whole argument. Pay the man what he wants - Depaul might have offered him a job 3 years ago.
Frank is making about 1.8 with mandatory bonuses
well, i'm not sure what kind of proof you want that he had one, but he did. and yeah it does kill your argument that currie will give him a raise without frank having an offer to go somewhere else. that's all frank knows. the only time he negotiated a conctract with currie, currie embarassinly low balled him and then finally agreed to a fair offer when frank went in contract in hand. you did try to make that argument. it was a couple of pages ago. go find it if you want. also it was 2 years ago, not 3. also, frank is not making 1.8 with mandatory bonuses. so there you go... three inaccuracies in your four sentence response above. good job jackass.
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Eddie Fogler is truly responsible for building the BTF.
is naismith never invented the game, there would be no need for a BTF. therefore, naismith is responsible for building the BTF.
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If we are going to say Frank gets paid 1.8ish after mandatory bonuses, we have to increase the comparable coaches #s to reflect the bonuses they get too. There isn't a coach in major college basketball that doesn't have those.
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guys, #notworried is a great place to be
you all should join me!
#notworried but it is entertaining :bwpopcorn:
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no, going back to well before that Frank was making an effort to be less animated and less profane, because of the reason I listed above. This according to a friend who works with the athletic dept. regularly. the letter came much later, and ratcheted up his efforts.
going back to well before martin has attempted to gain other employment? a lifelong struggle, you say,
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This convo is about whether Frank wants out at KSU because Currie is a douche. We're talking about whether Currie is rough ridin' Frank.
The FACTS are that Frank is getting paid. his assistants are getting paid. he's getting the facilities that FRANK deserves and the fans want FRANK to have.
Bottom Line - why is Frank unhappy?
you're right on target here, so i'm confused at why your other posts are so off target. this has little to nothing to do with money. it is entirely about martin and currie hating each other.
it shouldn't be phrased as martin being so unhappy though, it's a mutual antipathy. currie wants to work with martin no more than martin wants to work with currie.
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Dumbass, any decent AD would have built that facility. As sys pointed out the wins took care of the donations, if Currie didn't build the practice facility he would have been a worse AD than the three that proceeded him. Currie does not get credit for "doing that for Frank." You can't use that as one of the reasons Frank should be grateful to Currie. Don't runaway from your point because that is precisely why you mentioned it. It was dumb and dishonest.
Currie gets credit, the same as Martin gets credit. Martin inhereted NBA talent and Huggins' DC Assault pipeline. So, I guess he doesn't get credit for turning them into 20 game winners. I mean, if he didn't take Huggins' compilation of players to the tournament...
I can buy that logic. Pretty stuipd. But, at least I see where you're coming from.
nope. wrong.
anything good happens = frank
anything bad happens = currie
you better recognize.
You two are BITB at building strawmen. I don't believe I ever said Currie doesn't get credit for building the BTF. He gets plenty of credit, it just doesn't get to be used as a talking point for reasons why Frank should put up with Currie. Currie didn't build the BTF for Frank. If he built it for anyone it was himself. If he didn't no coach worth a damn would come here or stay here. Currie would have had the same legacy of the three ADs who proceeded him, what are they doing these days?
So yes, clap for John Currie for being the guy who pulled the switch on the BTF. However, you need to acknowledge that he certainly benefited in some way from being at the right place at the right time and he made a decision that 99% of anyone with an IQ over 75 would have made. He certainly made that correct decision and he should be credited but it shouldn't be brought up in the context that it was.
I look forward to the next strawman argument to defend this indefensible stance. Credit to rusty btw.
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Oh man, an AD overseeing something he's responsible for? John could beg emaw from coast to coast with 6 win confy seasons and build some rinky dink thing to put a smile on wooly 2.0 or he could hit the road off the back of an elite 8 and do what he did.
You are making it sound like Currie willed the practice facility into being with his Southern charm and business acumen. Whatever. Pay Frank 2.0, let the tards fall where they may.
This convo is about whether Frank wants out at KSU because Currie is a douche. We're talking about whether Currie is rough ridin' Frank.
The FACTS are that Frank is getting paid. his assistants are getting paid. he's getting the facilities that FRANK deserves and the fans want FRANK to have.
Bottom Line - why is Frank unhappy?
Did I say I know the answer to that question? Pretty sure I never have. But you're right about the question. The man that should be solving it is John Currie. So far the only thing I still know is Frank is unhappy. That's a John problem, not a Frank problem.
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Doug Davalos coaching the ksucats is going to be absurdly entertaining
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I want the band to stay together. That's all.
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He gets plenty of credit, it just doesn't get to be used as a talking point for reasons why Frank should put up with Currie.
i deleted all the other stuff you posted and want to focus on this.
yes it does.
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I want the band to stay together. That's all.
I wouldn't mind if they tried a new producer (AD) for the next album if that is what it takes to keep the lead singer (HCFM) happy.
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Oh man, an AD overseeing something he's responsible for? John could beg emaw from coast to coast with 6 win confy seasons and build some rinky dink thing to put a smile on wooly 2.0 or he could hit the road off the back of an elite 8 and do what he did.
You are making it sound like Currie willed the practice facility into being with his Southern charm and business acumen. Whatever. Pay Frank 2.0, let the tards fall where they may.
This convo is about whether Frank wants out at KSU because Currie is a douche. We're talking about whether Currie is rough ridin' Frank.
The FACTS are that Frank is getting paid. his assistants are getting paid. he's getting the facilities that FRANK deserves and the fans want FRANK to have.
Bottom Line - why is Frank unhappy?
Did I say I know the answer to that question? Pretty sure I never have. But you're right about the question. The man that should be solving it is John Currie. So far the only thing I still know is Frank is unhappy. That's a John problem, not a Frank problem.
I think Frank is a paranoid bad person and would hate any boss, so I would say Currie was a right place, right time guy w/ regards to the BTF and a wrong place/wrong guy with regards to having to deal with Frank's personality.
What's maddening is how mutually advantageous it would be for both Currie and Martin to act like adults and not "hate" each other. They can do great things together, and it's what's best for both of them! But no! We have a personality conflict, so we are going rough ridin' throw our careers down the drain to prove a point.
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well, i'm not sure what kind of proof you want that he had one, but he did. and yeah it goes kill your argument that currie will give him a raise without frank having an offer to go somewhere else. that's all frank knows. the only time he negotiated a conctract with currie, currie embarassinly low balled him and then finally agreed to a fair offer when frank went in contract in hand. you did try to make that argument. it was a couple of pages ago. go find it if you want. also it was 2 years ago, not 3. also, frank is not making 1.8 with mandatory bonuses. so there you go... three inaccuracies in your four sentence response above. good job jackass.
Tell me more about this DePaul job offer, about which you have no information. :popcorn: Also, tell me what Currie's original low ball offer was. What was Frank's agent's response? This super insidery tale of deceipt and lies will assuredly be rivetting.
The Contract extension was worked out during the 2009-2010 season. As reported, "the athletic director began contract discussions during the season and accelerated the talks as Martin reeled off victory after victory." so, yeah they were taling contract back in '09. do i get a point for that?
On the $$$. As reported "Currie said Martin would make an average of $1.55 million for the 2010-11 season through 2014-15, and also receive a signing bonus of $462,800, along with a "nationally competitive" incentives program that could add up to 32% of his base salary." So yeah, nice round 1.8mil isn't far off.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyXA2Jr3RT8
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the worst thing about frank potentially leaving would be angel leaving. god that would hurt. hurt right in the balls.
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well, i'm not sure what kind of proof you want that he had one, but he did. and yeah it goes kill your argument that currie will give him a raise without frank having an offer to go somewhere else. that's all frank knows. the only time he negotiated a conctract with currie, currie embarassinly low balled him and then finally agreed to a fair offer when frank went in contract in hand. you did try to make that argument. it was a couple of pages ago. go find it if you want. also it was 2 years ago, not 3. also, frank is not making 1.8 with mandatory bonuses. so there you go... three inaccuracies in your four sentence response above. good job jackass.
Tell me more about this DePaul job offer, about which you have no information. :popcorn: Also, tell me what Currie's original low ball offer was. What was Frank's agent's response? This super insidery tale of deceipt and lies will assuredly be rivetting.
The Contract extension was worked out during the 2009-2010 season. As reported, "the athletic director began contract discussions during the season and accelerated the talks as Martin reeled off victory after victory." so, yeah they were taling contract back in '09. do i get a point for that?
On the $$$. As reported "Currie said Martin would make an average of $1.55 million for the 2010-11 season through 2014-15, and also receive a signing bonus of $462,800, along with a "nationally competitive" incentives program that could add up to 32% of his base salary." So yeah, nice round 1.8mil isn't far off.
1) stop trying to big time me. you can't.
2) i guess when you emphatically stated that frank is making 1.8 what you really meant to say is that frank could be making close to 1.8 three years from now if he's still at kstate. gotcha. i'm currently typing this from a beach in the caribbean btw. dead serious. also btw, i'm not going to the caribbean until november or december.
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dax already pointed out that frank is making more than $1.8 this year
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyXA2Jr3RT8
3:33 is interesting.
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no, going back to well before that Frank was making an effort to be less animated and less profane, because of the reason I listed above. This according to a friend who works with the athletic dept. regularly. the letter came much later, and ratcheted up his efforts.
Right. the AD really has very little to do with raising money. If there is success on the court/field, money will simply pour in.
What does an athletic director do, anyway? serious question. And why do schools pay these guys close to $1mil a year.
This has now become the best post in this thread. Simply incredible.
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well, i'm not sure what kind of proof you want that he had one, but he did. and yeah it goes kill your argument that currie will give him a raise without frank having an offer to go somewhere else. that's all frank knows. the only time he negotiated a conctract with currie, currie embarassinly low balled him and then finally agreed to a fair offer when frank went in contract in hand. you did try to make that argument. it was a couple of pages ago. go find it if you want. also it was 2 years ago, not 3. also, frank is not making 1.8 with mandatory bonuses. so there you go... three inaccuracies in your four sentence response above. good job jackass.
Tell me more about this DePaul job offer, about which you have no information. :popcorn: Also, tell me what Currie's original low ball offer was. What was Frank's agent's response? This super insidery tale of deceipt and lies will assuredly be rivetting.
The Contract extension was worked out during the 2009-2010 season. As reported, "the athletic director began contract discussions during the season and accelerated the talks as Martin reeled off victory after victory." so, yeah they were taling contract back in '09. do i get a point for that?
On the $$$. As reported "Currie said Martin would make an average of $1.55 million for the 2010-11 season through 2014-15, and also receive a signing bonus of $462,800, along with a "nationally competitive" incentives program that could add up to 32% of his base salary." So yeah, nice round 1.8mil isn't far off.
1) stop trying to big time me. you can't.
2) i guess when you emphatically stated that frank is making 1.8 what you really meant to say is that frank could be making close to 1.8 three years from now if he's still at kstate. gotcha. i'm currently typing this from a beach in the caribbean btw. dead serious. also btw, i'm not going to the caribbean until november or december.
You're from the future :surprised:
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1) stop trying to big time me. you can't.
2) i guess when you emphatically stated that frank is making 1.8 what you really meant to say is that frank could be making close to 1.8 three years from now if he's still at kstate. gotcha. i'm currently typing this from a beach in the caribbean btw. dead serious. also btw, i'm not going to the caribbean until november or december.
I'm not trying to big time you. It's just happening.
re the 1.8. Dax post:
In a month Frank will be paid a $250K bonus just for being at K-State. (Also don't forget he was paid another $468K bonus just for signing his re-done contract a couple of years ago).
He's also going to get a $104K bonus for reaching the NCAA tourney, he's going to get a $25K bonus for for K-State's rising APR score, he might get another $50K bonus if men's basketball's GSR is higher than the student body.
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Oh man, an AD overseeing something he's responsible for? John could beg emaw from coast to coast with 6 win confy seasons and build some rinky dink thing to put a smile on wooly 2.0 or he could hit the road off the back of an elite 8 and do what he did.
You are making it sound like Currie willed the practice facility into being with his Southern charm and business acumen. Whatever. Pay Frank 2.0, let the tards fall where they may.
This convo is about whether Frank wants out at KSU because Currie is a douche. We're talking about whether Currie is rough ridin' Frank.
The FACTS are that Frank is getting paid. his assistants are getting paid. he's getting the facilities that FRANK deserves and the fans want FRANK to have.
Bottom Line - why is Frank unhappy?
Did I say I know the answer to that question? Pretty sure I never have. But you're right about the question. The man that should be solving it is John Currie. So far the only thing I still know is Frank is unhappy. That's a John problem, not a Frank problem.
I think Frank is a paranoid bad person and would hate any boss, so I would say Currie was a right place, right time guy w/ regards to the BTF and a wrong place/wrong guy with regards to having to deal with Frank's personality.
What's maddening is how mutually advantageous it would be for both Currie and Martin to act like adults and not "hate" each other. They can do great things together, and it's what's best for both of them! But no! We have a personality conflict, so we are going rough ridin' throw our careers down the drain to prove a point.
I know that we've seen Currie just a few feet from Frank scribbling notes and that's wrong. There is no circumstance where that is okay. Every AD evaluates their coaches, I can't recall it being done so publicly, that was wrong. We also know Currie continues to shadow Frank, he sat at the experts table near Frank on Saturday. I have been to Women's games and I've never seen Currie sitting near Deb's bench. I went to a game last year where I was about 4 rows closer to Deb than Currie was. Of course Frank knows this and of course it pisses him off, as it should.
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Oh man, an AD overseeing something he's responsible for? John could beg emaw from coast to coast with 6 win confy seasons and build some rinky dink thing to put a smile on wooly 2.0 or he could hit the road off the back of an elite 8 and do what he did.
You are making it sound like Currie willed the practice facility into being with his Southern charm and business acumen. Whatever. Pay Frank 2.0, let the tards fall where they may.
This convo is about whether Frank wants out at KSU because Currie is a douche. We're talking about whether Currie is rough ridin' Frank.
The FACTS are that Frank is getting paid. his assistants are getting paid. he's getting the facilities that FRANK deserves and the fans want FRANK to have.
Bottom Line - why is Frank unhappy?
Did I say I know the answer to that question? Pretty sure I never have. But you're right about the question. The man that should be solving it is John Currie. So far the only thing I still know is Frank is unhappy. That's a John problem, not a Frank problem.
I think Frank is a paranoid bad person and would hate any boss, so I would say Currie was a right place, right time guy w/ regards to the BTF and a wrong place/wrong guy with regards to having to deal with Frank's personality.
What's maddening is how mutually advantageous it would be for both Currie and Martin to act like adults and not "hate" each other. They can do great things together, and it's what's best for both of them! But no! We have a personality conflict, so we are going rough ridin' throw our careers down the drain to prove a point.
I know that we've seen Currie just a few feet from Frank scribbling notes and that's wrong. There is no circumstance where that is okay. Every AD evaluates their coaches, I can't recall it being done so publicly, that was wrong. We also know Currie continues to shadow Frank, he sat at the experts table near Frank on Saturday. I have been to Women's games and I've never seen Currie sitting near Deb's bench. I went to a game last year where I was about 4 rows closer to Deb than Currie was. Of course Frank knows this and of course it pisses him off, as it should.
Maybe Currie has a guy, and he is trying to run Frank off :dunno:
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I know that we've seen Currie just a few feet from Frank scribbling notes and that's wrong. There is no circumstance where that is okay. Every AD evaluates their coaches, I can't recall it being done so publicly, that was wrong. We also know Currie continues to shadow Frank, he sat at the experts table near Frank on Saturday. I have been to Women's games and I've never seen Currie sitting near Deb's bench. I went to a game last year where I was about 4 rows closer to Deb than Currie was. Of course Frank knows this and of course it pisses him off, as it should.
I can't tell if this post is serious.
ADs sit at the scorers table - and it's not because the coach is in time out. It's because they run the f'n place.
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1) stop trying to big time me. you can't.
2) i guess when you emphatically stated that frank is making 1.8 what you really meant to say is that frank could be making close to 1.8 three years from now if he's still at kstate. gotcha. i'm currently typing this from a beach in the caribbean btw. dead serious. also btw, i'm not going to the caribbean until november or december.
I'm not trying to big time you. It's just happening.
re the 1.8. Dax post:
In a month Frank will be paid a $250K bonus just for being at K-State. (Also don't forget he was paid another $468K bonus just for signing his re-done contract a couple of years ago).
He's also going to get a $104K bonus for reaching the NCAA tourney, he's going to get a $25K bonus for for K-State's rising APR score, he might get another $50K bonus if men's basketball's GSR is higher than the student body.
If we are going to say Frank gets paid 1.8ish after mandatory bonuses, we have to increase the comparable coaches #s to reflect the bonuses they get too. There isn't a coach in major college basketball that doesn't have those.
Yeah, he gets bonuses. So does everyone else. Include that in everyone else's salary and suddenly 1.5-2.2 isn't the appropriate range, it's more like 2.0-2.7.
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the worst thing about frank potentially leaving would be angel leaving. god that would hurt. hurt right in the balls.
I would still proudly wear my #teamangel shirt
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1) stop trying to big time me. you can't.
2) i guess when you emphatically stated that frank is making 1.8 what you really meant to say is that frank could be making close to 1.8 three years from now if he's still at kstate. gotcha. i'm currently typing this from a beach in the caribbean btw. dead serious. also btw, i'm not going to the caribbean until november or december.
I'm not trying to big time you. It's just happening.
re the 1.8. Dax post:
In a month Frank will be paid a $250K bonus just for being at K-State. (Also don't forget he was paid another $468K bonus just for signing his re-done contract a couple of years ago).
He's also going to get a $104K bonus for reaching the NCAA tourney, he's going to get a $25K bonus for for K-State's rising APR score, he might get another $50K bonus if men's basketball's GSR is higher than the student body.
you are still are wrong. you just changed the conversation. before we were talking about yearly salary and mandatory bonuses and now we aren't. now we're apparently talking about gsr bonuses and a 468k bonus from signing the contract two years ago. your numbers have been wrong throughout.
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I know that we've seen Currie just a few feet from Frank scribbling notes and that's wrong. There is no circumstance where that is okay. Every AD evaluates their coaches, I can't recall it being done so publicly, that was wrong. We also know Currie continues to shadow Frank, he sat at the experts table near Frank on Saturday. I have been to Women's games and I've never seen Currie sitting near Deb's bench. I went to a game last year where I was about 4 rows closer to Deb than Currie was. Of course Frank knows this and of course it pisses him off, as it should.
I can't tell if this post is serious.
ADs sit at the scorers table - and it's not because the coach is in time out. It's because they run the f'n place.
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Stop trying so rough ridin' hard to be contrarian. We all know Lew sat at the damn experts table, and as your photo illustrates he wearing goddamn head phones and not listening to and scribbling notes from/about the head coach. It is rare to see ADs sitting at the damn scorers table near the head coach. Even if you didn't believe that I just told you right there in that post you quoted that Currie does NOT watch women's games from the scorers table.
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I cannot believe I allowed myself to get sucked into Belvis' vortex. eff me.
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DeLoss Dodds sits at the scorers table.
And I would love to see Currie's notes. would be hilarious if he was just drawing dicks all game.
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They're not my numbers. period. Dax posted them. I take them as accurate.
Base = 1.5. mandatory bonus = $250K. Total = 1.75mil + performance based incentives.
rounded up to 1.8. sorry.
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Stop trying so rough ridin' hard to be contrarian. We all know Lew sat at the damn experts table, and as your photo illustrates he wearing goddamn head phones and not listening to and scribbling notes from/about the head coach. It is rare to see ADs sitting at the damn scorers table near the head coach. Even if you didn't believe that I just told you right there in that post you quoted that Currie does NOT watch women's games from the scorers table.
You're the dumb eff who thinks Currie sits at the scorers table to keep an eye on Martin. I'd be tempted to buy into the conspiracy, but for the fact that ADs routinely sit at the scorer's table.
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I also love how MiR has come out as a KSU Women's basketball superfan. So cute.
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This thread makes me feel stupid and uninformed :(
Some people on here are very good at debating their side.
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I also love how MiR has come out as a KSU Women's basketball superfan. So cute.
I've been out about it in many other threads. I watched the second half of the Princeton/KSU game on Trim's laptop during the first half on Syracuse/KSU.
Also lol at Belvis continuing to reply to my posts on Currie at the scorers table but refusing to acknowledge that Currie doesn't sit there during women's games.
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I also love how MiR has come out as a KSU Women's basketball superfan. So cute.
I've been out about it in many other threads. I watched the second half of the Princeton/KSU game on Trim's laptop during the first half on Syracuse/KSU.
Yeah, I've been noticing it a lot more. This just felt like a nice place to comment. It's just nice that you aren't all about hip hop, thug tattoos, and mean muggin'.
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DeLoss Dodds sits at the scorers table.
And I would love to see Currie's notes. would be hilarious if he was just drawing dicks all game.
Can't tell if this whole line of thinking is a joke or not, but in case it isn't ... Currie only sits at the scorer's table on road trips, and and he isn't taking notes. He likes to keep track of +/- during the game, see who is playing well or whatever. Carry on.
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DeLoss Dodds sits at the scorers table.
And I would love to see Currie's notes. would be hilarious if he was just drawing dicks all game.
Can't tell if this whole line of thinking is a joke or not, but in case it isn't ...
The drawing dicks thing was a joke.
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DeLoss Dodds sits at the scorers table.
And I would love to see Currie's notes. would be hilarious if he was just drawing dicks all game.
Can't tell if this whole line of thinking is a joke or not, but in case it isn't ...
The drawing dicks thing was a joke.
Yes, I gathered. Meant more the line of thinking that Currie sits on scorers table and is creating a running performance review of FM during games.
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DeLoss Dodds sits at the scorers table.
And I would love to see Currie's notes. would be hilarious if he was just drawing dicks all game.
Can't tell if this whole line of thinking is a joke or not, but in case it isn't ... Currie only sits at the scorer's table on road trips, and and he isn't taking notes. He likes to keep track of +/- during the game, see who is playing well or whatever. Carry on.
Well that's worse than dicks? +/- :lol: what a herb, Jesus now I think even worse than him. Also why doesn't he want to keep women's stats? FREE DEB!!!
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DeLoss Dodds sits at the scorers table.
And I would love to see Currie's notes. would be hilarious if he was just drawing dicks all game.
Can't tell if this whole line of thinking is a joke or not, but in case it isn't ... Currie only sits at the scorer's table on road trips, and and he isn't taking notes. He likes to keep track of +/- during the game, see who is playing well or whatever. Carry on.
He should be putting these notes in his weekly email, imo
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My daughter took notes during the syracuse game. she wrote down the ksu score whenever it changed. she got bored when we got stuck to 11 for roughly 30 minutes of real time and played with some dolls or something.
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cc...just give us the down low on whats going on and put this all to rest.
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I would tweet interesting non-game related observations all game if I sat there. you would all love the crap out of it.
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They're not my numbers. period. Dax posted them. I take them as accurate.
that's your fault then. they are not. you've been wrong about 75% of the stuff you've posted. why not just call it a day. :dunno:
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I would tweet interesting non-game related observations all game if I sat there. you would all love the crap out of it.
Some schools give bloggers a press pass, apply for one, cc would hook you up. I mean there is a guy with a press pass tweeting about cheerleaders and commenting on the girth of sideline reporters, why not Steve Dave?
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I would tweet interesting non-game related observations all game if I sat there. you would all love the crap out of it.
Some schools give bloggers a press pass, apply for one, cc would hook you up. I mean there is a guy with a press pass tweeting about cheerleaders and commenting on the girth of sideline reporters, why not Steve Dave?
gopowercat has like the whole office down there some games. i've honestly thought that we should try to get one for _fan. he's the only one here that A. actually writes for the site and B. wouldn't do anything that would be even potentially embarassing.
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who would do something that would be MOST embarassing? I say either Pete or Trim. Both would be great.
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DeLoss Dodds sits at the scorers table.
And I would love to see Currie's notes. would be hilarious if he was just drawing dicks all game.
Can't tell if this whole line of thinking is a joke or not, but in case it isn't ...
The drawing dicks thing was a joke.
Yes, I gathered. Meant more the line of thinking that Currie sits on scorers table and is creating a running performance review of FM during games.
would you just post that there's nothing to worry about shut this thing down plz
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who would do something that would be MOST embarassing? I say either Pete or Trim. Both would be great.
I would look forward to that more than the actual games.
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who would do something that would be MOST embarassing? I say either Pete or Trim. Both would be great.
would be a great way for this site to go out in a blaze of glory when Frank walks
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Pete or Trim. Both would be great.
yeah. tough call though. i would be incredibly well mannered fwiw.
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Pete or Trim. Both would be great.
yeah. tough call though. i would be incredibly well mannered fwiw.
I would make friends with everyone around me and have them eating popcorn out of my hand within 20 minutes. Then I would just party all game.
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that's your fault then. they are not. you've been wrong about 75% of the stuff you've posted. why not just call it a day. :dunno:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa279%2Fmirak%2Fimplied-facepalm.jpg&hash=8157c57473fbf4e3de04cfcd48739b9585afc6c7)
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who would do something that would be MOST embarassing? I say either Pete or Trim. Both would be great.
:thumbs:
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I also love how MiR has come out as a KSU Women's basketball superfan. So cute.
I've been out about it in many other threads. I watched the second half of the Princeton/KSU game on Trim's laptop during the first half on Syracuse/KSU.
Yeah, I've been noticing it a lot more. This just felt like a nice place to comment. It's just nice that you aren't all about hip hop, thug tattoos, and mean muggin'.
:thumbs:
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Pay Frank 2.0, let the tards fall where they may.
I want this shirt. Pay Frank 2.0 on the front, let the tards fall where they may on the back.
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Bottom Line - why is Frank unhappy?
He and John Currie hate each other. Allegedly.
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Bottom Line - why is Frank unhappy?
He and John Currie hate each other. Allegedly.
Allegation corroborated by theory that currie sidles up to the coach and scribbles mean things about him. Which theory is not true.
But yeah, they probably despise eachother.
I'm sold. Next.
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GoPowercat's Tim Fitzgerald just joined team #notworried :gocho:
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Bottom Line - why is Frank unhappy?
He and John Currie hate each other. Allegedly.
Allegation corroborated by theory that currie sidles up to the coach and scribbles mean things about him. Which theory is not true.
But yeah, they probably despise eachother.
I'm sold. Next.
Go get a beer with your bros after work and talk KSU hoops.
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:bball: :drink:
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Bottom Line - why is Frank unhappy?
He and John Currie hate each other. Allegedly.
Currie is using his +/- stats to dictate to Frank how he should sub his lineup. Now I see where Rusty is going with this. Anyone see rusty and Currie in the same room :horrorsurprise:
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2012/03/15/southern-miss-64-kansas-state-70/plus_minus
The url says plus_minus. I'm sure you're not asking us to glean anything from plus minus, right?
No, let's stick to anecdotes and feelings in this thread.
If you're relegated to using the most useless stat in sports you've lost the argument. If anyone tried to use +/- to discredit one of your arguments you'd rightfully call them a moron. The fact that Will and Rodney had the same +/- and Jamar's was 10 points higher tells you all you need to know.
yes, it tells you that who you are on the court with matters a lot. Unfortunately, Martavious has to be on the floor with Martavious 100% of the time and that kind of skews his plus/minus in the wrong direction.
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Pretty sure I've seen Zenger sitting behind Bill Self on road trips. Think he's taking critical notes on the Massa? LOL.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi133.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq45%2Fkougar24%2FKState%2Fcurrie_peek_sm.gif&hash=e8a068e43360f8e9f16d331cb26e493c504f8a31)
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Captain Crap,
please PM me with details on how to square away my press pass. Let's do a test run for the upcoming Equestrian Big 12 championship at KSU.
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Love that emoticon. Also notice how cc pissed the flames out of this intense thread, now we're all like :cheers: when before I thought were going to have a Georgetown vs. Chinese Army basketball dudes situation.
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Captain Crap,
please PM me with details on how to square away my press pass. Let's do a test run for the upcoming Equestrian Big 12 championship at KSU.
eff you.
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Captain Crap,
please PM me with details on how to square away my press pass. Let's do a test run for the upcoming Equestrian Big 12 championship at KSU.
eff you.
You guys, you guys....
you know it's going to be Fanning anyway. Why do this?
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They're not my numbers. period. Dax posted them. I take them as accurate.
that's your fault then. they are not. you've been wrong about 75% of the stuff you've posted. why not just call it a day. :dunno:
What's not accurate?
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Captain Crap,
please PM me with details on how to square away my press pass. Let's do a test run for the upcoming Equestrian Big 12 championship at KSU.
eff you.
You guys, you guys....
you know it's going to be Fanning anyway. Why do this?
Yes, please! :thumbs:
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Love that emoticon. Also notice how cc pissed the flames out of this intense thread, now we're all like :cheers: when before I thought were going to have a Georgetown vs. Chinese Army basketball dudes situation.
Quote from: Pete on Today at 04:03:47 PM
Captain Crap,
please PM me with details on how to square away my press pass. Let's do a test run for the upcoming Equestrian Big 12 championship at KSU.
eff you.
Welp.
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Welp.
I'm Chinese Army basketball dudes in this analogy.
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I'm being serious here. It really surprises me you guys don't have atleast 1 press pass. When i was working at the student station, I filled out for these all the time. Kstate games, NCAA tourneys, bowl games, you name it. You guys deliver a lot more scoop than a lot of "Kstate media outlets". If you need help on this, let me know.
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Plus, the free media food. :thumbs:
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the media hospitality room in the OOD is pretty nice. free pop and dece snacks.
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They're not my numbers. period. Dax posted them. I take them as accurate.
that's your fault then. they are not. you've been wrong about 75% of the stuff you've posted. why not just call it a day. :dunno:
What's not accurate?
your numbers
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does angel follow frank? does currie release him?
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does angel follow frank? does currie release him?
I would expect yes to be the answer to both.
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does angel follow frank? does currie release him?
I would expect yes to be the answer to both.
no way we release him.
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Tucks would love him forever if he released Angel. Currie would probably tell everyone it was his decision.
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Spartanburg, SC --
One-time USC assistant Tubby Smith, who guided Kentucky to the 1998 national title, and Kansas State head coach Frank Martin are primary targets in USC's head basketball coaching search, according to the South Carolina News Network.
Smith currently coaches Minnesota and the Golden Gophers are headed to Tuesday night's semi-finals in the N.I.T. at New York's Madison Square Garden.
The network indicates that a look at Smith's contract at Minnesota indicates he is not obligated to pay a buy-out if he leaves the school.
The GamecockCentral.com website reports that the Gamecocks have already had contact with Martin, whose had a successful run with the Wildcats since taking over for Bob Huggins.
http://www2.wspa.com/sports/2012/mar/22/tubby-smith-frank-martin-reported-targets-usc-sear-ar-3462489/ (http://www2.wspa.com/sports/2012/mar/22/tubby-smith-frank-martin-reported-targets-usc-sear-ar-3462489/)
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http://www.mrsec.com/2012/03/dickerson-cooper-mentioned-in-connection-with-usc-hoops-gig/ (http://www.mrsec.com/2012/03/dickerson-cooper-mentioned-in-connection-with-usc-hoops-gig/)
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man, i would be so sad to lose ar-t. i can't even imagine.
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I have high hopes for Angel. It would kill me to see him looking all badass for another team.
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Can't see Angel going to a school that has the word "South" in it, and openly harbors racists, what with the whole green card episode.
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Frank will burn this program to the ground on the way out the door for what they did to Jamar.
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:rolleyes:
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Frank will burn this program to the ground on the way out the door for what they did to Jamar.
....and from the ashes will arise a glorious phoenix named tuck Underwood.
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I am getting the feeling the Usc beat writers and websites have good terrible sources.
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So if South Carolina has already contacted Frank, sounds like he already told them no if other names keep coming up
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They're not my numbers. period. Dax posted them. I take them as accurate.
that's your fault then. they are not. you've been wrong about 75% of the stuff you've posted. why not just call it a day. :dunno:
What's not accurate?
your numbers
What are the accurate numbers?
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Frank will burn this program to the ground on the way out the door for what they did to Jamar.
....and from the ashes will arise a glorious phoenix named tuck Underwood.
Beautiful.
So if South Carolina has already contacted Frank, sounds like he already told them no if other names keep coming up
Not a no. He's likely negotiating and using both sides for more cash.
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With the Frank to South Carolina rumblings really heating up, let's check out the 'Cocks by the numbers.
Like most dogshit SEC basketball programs that nobody South of the Mason Dixon could give a flying eff about, it's hard to find actual historical data, but I did! And they appear to be just as horrible as one might expect.
South Carolina Basketball
NCAA Tournament Appearances: 8 – Last Appearance 2004
Sweet 16 Appearances: 3
Elite 8 Appearances: 0
Final 4 Apperances: 0
National Title Game Appearances: 0
Conference Championships All Time: 5
All Americans: 1
All-Time Record: 1,287-1,128-1 (.532)
All time winning percentage in the SEC of (.406) 91-133 – 11th
K-State Basketball
NCAA Tournament Appearances All Time: 26 – Last Appearance 2011
Sweet 16 Appearances All Time: 16
Elite 8 Appearances All Time: 12
Final 4 Apperances All Time: 4
National Title Game Appearances All Time: 1
Conference Championships All Time: 17
All Americans: 11
All time record: 1,507-1,065 (.586)
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are people really worried about south carolina? really?
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the media hospitality room in the OOD is pretty nice. free pop and dece snacks.
sometimes even hibachi hut!
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are people really worried about south carolina? really?
the ol' ball coach
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are people really worried about south carolina? really?
still meh.
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are people really worried about south carolina? really?
Any port in a storm.
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Frank will burn this program to the ground on the way out the door for what they did to Jamar.
as it deserves.
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I'm dying at this interview Soren is having with this Rivals guy in South Carolina. :lol:
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I'm dying at this interview Soren is having with this Rivals guy in South Carolina. :lol:
i've not talked to anyone from the AD but i've heard from several sources that if SC offers, frank will accept. frank has not visited our campus yet.
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Franks in line for an extension...if hes' using USC for anything more than leverage he is an absolute moron. Greg Marshall turned down $2M per from the Nubbs to stay at WSU making $900k, he understands it's smart to be choosy, and patient. Frank will eventually take another job, but I can't imagine it won't be a top 15 program, or his beloved Miami. Those are the only 2 options that make sense.
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According to what I can find in his contract (http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/Frank%20Martin's%20contract%20(2010)_0.pdf) Frank made $1.56 million this year if he got all bonuses. However, I'm not certain on all bonuses, but that gives him the benefit of the doubt for all.
His base this year was $1.3 million.
The bonus for a 9-7 Big 12 record was 4%, I'm assuming he got the same for 10-8. That adds $52K.
The bonus for an Torn-a-ment birth was 8%. That's $104K.
The bonus for APR scores is $25K or $50K. I gave him the higher number.
The bonus for GSR is $50K. I gave it to him.
That leaves the questions...
Is Frank worth more?
What is the worth of selling out the arena every season?
What is the worth of the coach being the face of the program? (he was seleced by CBS for a reason)
What is the worth of continuing to finish above .500 in the league?
What is the worth of 4 of 5 NCAA seasons with first round wins in each?
This just doesn't seem hard to me. I like the escalating salary and I can see the caution in some people. I suppose at the end of the day to me it just make sense to give Frank a bit of a boost, even $300-400K, to stroke his ego.
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Getting kinda tired of Frank's act. Between the mass eye hernias and the yearly money grab it's hard to not be mad at him. I do find it interesting how the same people who claim battered women's syndrome in regards to Snyder are the same people who are openly declaring that we can't and won't ever do better than Frank. Meh.
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Getting kinda tired of Frank's act. Between the mass eye hernias and the yearly money grab it's hard to not be mad at him. I do find it interesting how the same people who claim battered women's syndrome in regards to Snyder are the same people who are openly declaring that we can't and won't ever do better than Frank. Meh.
what is better than frank?
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I'm not claiming--we can't, and we won't. Of course we're all tired of the act.
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According to what I can find in his contract (http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/Frank%20Martin's%20contract%20(2010)_0.pdf) Frank made $1.56 million this year if he got all bonuses. However, I'm not certain on all bonuses, but that gives him the benefit of the doubt for all.
His base this year was $1.3 million.
The bonus for a 9-7 Big 12 record was 4%, I'm assuming he got the same for 10-8. That adds $52K.
The bonus for an Torn-a-ment birth was 8%. That's $104K.
The bonus for APR scores is $25K or $50K. I gave him the higher number.
The bonus for GSR is $50K. I gave it to him.
That leaves the questions...
Is Frank worth more?
What is the worth of selling out the arena every season?
What is the worth of the coach being the face of the program? (he was seleced by CBS for a reason)
What is the worth of continuing to finish above .500 in the league?
What is the worth of 4 of 5 NCAA seasons with first round wins in each?
This just doesn't seem hard to me. I like the escalating salary and I can see the caution in some people. I suppose at the end of the day to me it just make sense to give Frank a bit of a boost, even $300-400K, to stroke his ego.
so this is a couple hundred thousand below what you said yesterday. as to whether or not he's worth it, that's not even a question. as to whether or not a few more hundred thousand would make a difference, i doubt it. seems like he's gone.
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that was dax that said that yesterday, leave _FAN the eff OUT OF THIS.
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so this is a couple hundred thousand below what you said yesterday. as to whether or not he's worth it, that's not even a question. as to whether or not a few more hundred thousand would make a difference, i doubt it. seems like he's gone.
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Of course we're all tired of the act.
We all are? That's news to me
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The flirting with a new job every year act gets tired.
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Getting kinda tired of Frank's act. Between the mass eye hernias and the yearly money grab it's hard to not be mad at him. I do find it interesting how the same people who claim battered women's syndrome in regards to Snyder are the same people who are openly declaring that we can't and won't ever do better than Frank. Meh.
what does yearly money grab mean?
frank got his first contract. three years later they negotiated his second contract and in this second contract there were contengencies that would require both sides to renogotiate again in two years. frank met those and they are now required per contract to re-enter negotiations.
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According to what I can find in his contract (http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/Frank%20Martin's%20contract%20(2010)_0.pdf) Frank made $1.56 million this year if he got all bonuses. However, I'm not certain on all bonuses, but that gives him the benefit of the doubt for all.
His base this year was $1.3 million.
The bonus for a 9-7 Big 12 record was 4%, I'm assuming he got the same for 10-8. That adds $52K.
The bonus for an Torn-a-ment birth was 8%. That's $104K.
The bonus for APR scores is $25K or $50K. I gave him the higher number.
The bonus for GSR is $50K. I gave it to him.
That leaves the questions...
Is Frank worth more?
What is the worth of selling out the arena every season?
What is the worth of the coach being the face of the program? (he was seleced by CBS for a reason)
What is the worth of continuing to finish above .500 in the league?
What is the worth of 4 of 5 NCAA seasons with first round wins in each?
This just doesn't seem hard to me. I like the escalating salary and I can see the caution in some people. I suppose at the end of the day to me it just make sense to give Frank a bit of a boost, even $300-400K, to stroke his ego.
I could see going to about $1.75 million. At this point, Frank is Bo Ryan-lite. They've both peaked at losing a Regional Final. They both usually win a game or two in the tourney and bow out (although Bo gets to the Sweet 16 a bit more on average, which makes him worth a bit more). Bo's won 3 conference titles and 2 conf tourneys in 11 years, and Frank hasn't won any, so there's more worth there. Bo went to $2.1 million after 10 years (all tourney) at his school, 3 confy titles, 2 tourney titles. I'm not sure Frank's justified in getting to $2 millions at this point without any trophies.
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so this is a couple hundred thousand below what you said yesterday. as to whether or not he's worth it, that's not even a question. as to whether or not a few more hundred thousand would make a difference, i doubt it. seems like he's gone.
:confused:
ha. saw the numbers and linked contract and just naturally assumed dax post. didn't even look to see who posted it.
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Not referring to an actual contract negotiations, I'm all for him getting solid pay. I'm just tired of him whoring himself all over every spring. Either he does it because he's genuinely interested in leaving or because he wants more leverage. Either way, it's getting old.
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According to what I can find in his contract (http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/Frank%20Martin's%20contract%20(2010)_0.pdf) Frank made $1.56 million this year if he got all bonuses. However, I'm not certain on all bonuses, but that gives him the benefit of the doubt for all.
His base this year was $1.3 million.
The bonus for a 9-7 Big 12 record was 4%, I'm assuming he got the same for 10-8. That adds $52K.
The bonus for an Torn-a-ment birth was 8%. That's $104K.
The bonus for APR scores is $25K or $50K. I gave him the higher number.
The bonus for GSR is $50K. I gave it to him.
That leaves the questions...
Is Frank worth more?
What is the worth of selling out the arena every season?
What is the worth of the coach being the face of the program? (he was seleced by CBS for a reason)
What is the worth of continuing to finish above .500 in the league?
What is the worth of 4 of 5 NCAA seasons with first round wins in each?
This just doesn't seem hard to me. I like the escalating salary and I can see the caution in some people. I suppose at the end of the day to me it just make sense to give Frank a bit of a boost, even $300-400K, to stroke his ego.
I could see going to about $1.75 million. At this point, Frank is Bo Ryan-lite. They've both peaked at losing a Regional Final. They both usually win a game or two in the tourney and bow out (although Bo gets to the Sweet 16 a bit more on average, which makes him worth a bit more). Bo's won 3 conference titles and 2 conf tourneys in 11 years, and Frank hasn't won any, so there's more worth there. Bo went to $2.1 million after 10 years (all tourney) at his school, 3 confy titles, 2 tourney titles. I'm not sure Frank's justified in getting to $2 millions at this point without any trophies.
it really surprises me how many people here care how much frank makes. the athletic dept made over twenty million dollars last year. why do you dumbasses give a crap if the best thing to happen to kstate basketball in the last thirty years makes a couple hundred thousand more per year?
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so this is a couple hundred thousand below what you said yesterday. as to whether or not he's worth it, that's not even a question. as to whether or not a few more hundred thousand would make a difference, i doubt it. seems like he's gone.
:confused:
ha. saw the numbers and linked contract and just naturally assumed dax post. didn't even look to see who posted it.
I figured if Frank's $$$ were going to be discussed, someone should actually look it up and run the numbers.
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someone list potential replacement candidates :D
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I didn't read everybody's post, but it appears some of you are missing my point about Frank being our coach for the entire contract year.
If Frank is the coach at K-State next month, on top of his regular salary and bonuses he gets another $250K contract fullfilment bonus.
I'd have to go back and look but I think a "contract year" in Frank's contract starts in April or May.
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According to what I can find in his contract (http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/Frank%20Martin's%20contract%20(2010)_0.pdf) Frank made $1.56 million this year if he got all bonuses. However, I'm not certain on all bonuses, but that gives him the benefit of the doubt for all.
His base this year was $1.3 million.
The bonus for a 9-7 Big 12 record was 4%, I'm assuming he got the same for 10-8. That adds $52K.
The bonus for an Torn-a-ment birth was 8%. That's $104K.
The bonus for APR scores is $25K or $50K. I gave him the higher number.
The bonus for GSR is $50K. I gave it to him.
That leaves the questions...
Is Frank worth more?
What is the worth of selling out the arena every season?
What is the worth of the coach being the face of the program? (he was seleced by CBS for a reason)
What is the worth of continuing to finish above .500 in the league?
What is the worth of 4 of 5 NCAA seasons with first round wins in each?
This just doesn't seem hard to me. I like the escalating salary and I can see the caution in some people. I suppose at the end of the day to me it just make sense to give Frank a bit of a boost, even $300-400K, to stroke his ego.
I could see going to about $1.75 million. At this point, Frank is Bo Ryan-lite. They've both peaked at losing a Regional Final. They both usually win a game or two in the tourney and bow out (although Bo gets to the Sweet 16 a bit more on average, which makes him worth a bit more). Bo's won 3 conference titles and 2 conf tourneys in 11 years, and Frank hasn't won any, so there's more worth there. Bo went to $2.1 million after 10 years (all tourney) at his school, 3 confy titles, 2 tourney titles. I'm not sure Frank's justified in getting to $2 millions at this point without any trophies.
it really surprises me how many people here care how much frank makes. the athletic dept made over twenty million dollars last year. why do you dumbasses give a crap if the best thing to happen to kstate basketball in the last thirty years makes a couple hundred thousand more per year?
Frank has proven enough to me, even with the attrition and somewhat weird recruiting, that he's worth 1.8-2.0 mill.
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it really surprises me how many people here care how much frank makes. the athletic dept made over twenty million dollars last year. why do you dumbasses give a crap if the best thing to happen to kstate basketball in the last thirty years makes a couple hundred thousand more per year?
This:
I figured if Frank's $$$ were going to be discussed, someone should actually look it up and run the numbers.
I don't really care if the AD wants to give him $2,000,000 or $5,000,000 to try to keep him. Since people were talking #'s, I thought I'd throw a comparison coach out there and evaluate where his results would land him. Obviously, there are other factors besides performance that come into play.
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I didn't read everybody's post, but it appears some of you are missing my point about Frank being our coach for the entire contract year.
If Frank is the coach at K-State next month, on top of his regular salary and bonuses he gets another $250K contract fullfilment bonus.
I'd have to go back and look but I think a "contract year" in Frank's contract starts in April or May.
True on the $250K.
I would guarantee that Frnk/Katz don't count bonuses and especially the retention bonus when comparing his numbers to other coaches. I bet they think of the $1.3 mil base. Granted, I'm sure the merits of this logic would bring more great debate.
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You can't just say "well the athletic dept made $20M so give Frank more"...at some point you draw a line and to draw that line you have to look at alternatives. Frank is clearly a good coach, is he $2M good? I don't know the answer, but it needs to be asked. Who else could we get if we start offering $2M per? Again, I don't know the answer. I love Frank, but I will admit this crap every year is already old and it likely doesn't stop anytime soon. It surely can't help recruiting. The Franking is also getting old. If Sprads leaves, I will be very disappointed. This is a kid who Frank loves and he clearly isn't "loved" in return...that's bothersome. Does this baggage come with every coach expecting $2M per?
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You can't just say "well the athletic dept made $20M so give Frank more"...at some point you draw a line and to draw that line you have to look at alternatives. Frank is clearly a good coach, is he $2M good? I don't know the answer, but it needs to be asked. Who else could we get if we start offering $2M per? Again, I don't know the answer. I love Frank, but I will admit this crap every year is already old and it likely doesn't stop anytime soon. It surely can't help recruiting. The Franking is also getting old. If Sprads leaves, I will be very disappointed. This is a kid who Frank loves and he clearly isn't "loved" in return...that's bothersome. Does this baggage come with every coach expecting $2M per?
The point to me is there is no guarantee on what $2 mil would bring to K-State, but it would seem to me that $2 mil would likely keep the guy we have. And that guy has already proven to be pretty darn good.
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You can't just say "well the athletic dept made $20M so give Frank more"...at some point you draw a line and to draw that line you have to look at alternatives. Frank is clearly a good coach, is he $2M good? I don't know the answer, but it needs to be asked. Who else could we get if we start offering $2M per? Again, I don't know the answer. I love Frank, but I will admit this crap every year is already old and it likely doesn't stop anytime soon. It surely can't help recruiting. The Franking is also getting old. If Sprads leaves, I will be very disappointed. This is a kid who Frank loves and he clearly isn't "loved" in return...that's bothersome. Does this baggage come with every coach expecting $2M per?
The point to me is there is no guarantee on what $2 mil would bring to K-State, but it would seem to me that $2 mil would likely keep the guy we have. And that guy has already proven to be pretty darn good.
I don't disagree. I would feel better if the $2M included some sort of very expensive out clause, so we (and future recruits) don't have to deal with this each year. Don't think for a second other coaches aren't using this against us in the recruiting battles. I'll be shocked if we land any recruit this spring that has quality alternatives.
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You can't just say "well the athletic dept made $20M so give Frank more"...at some point you draw a line and to draw that line you have to look at alternatives. Frank is clearly a good coach, is he $2M good? I don't know the answer, but it needs to be asked. Who else could we get if we start offering $2M per? Again, I don't know the answer. I love Frank, but I will admit this crap every year is already old and it likely doesn't stop anytime soon. It surely can't help recruiting. The Franking is also getting old. If Sprads leaves, I will be very disappointed. This is a kid who Frank loves and he clearly isn't "loved" in return...that's bothersome. Does this baggage come with every coach expecting $2M per?
in order to replace frank with a coach of similar ability, etc. what do you think we would have to pay and do you even think that we would be able to hire one away from their current school? because illinois just offered shaka 2.5 and got turned down. nebraska if offering really, really good money and is getting turned down left and right. this really doesn't seem that hard to me. if we're able to lure someone comparable away (strongly doubt we could) then we'll be paying much more than 1.55 average that frank will make over the lifetime of his current contract and if we can't then we're stuck hiring doc sadler 2.0 for 1.1. all that matters is what someone else thinks frank is worth and how much it would cost to replace him assuming you would even be able to. there is no situation that makes more sense then paying him more and trying to keep him.
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You can't just say "well the athletic dept made $20M so give Frank more"...at some point you draw a line and to draw that line you have to look at alternatives. Frank is clearly a good coach, is he $2M good? I don't know the answer, but it needs to be asked. Who else could we get if we start offering $2M per? Again, I don't know the answer. I love Frank, but I will admit this crap every year is already old and it likely doesn't stop anytime soon. It surely can't help recruiting. The Franking is also getting old. If Sprads leaves, I will be very disappointed. This is a kid who Frank loves and he clearly isn't "loved" in return...that's bothersome. Does this baggage come with every coach expecting $2M per?
The point to me is there is no guarantee on what $2 mil would bring to K-State, but it would seem to me that $2 mil would likely keep the guy we have. And that guy has already proven to be pretty darn good.
For the sake of comparison, what do you think 2M gets us on the open market if we go around trying to hire a coach. Honestly, I don't think we get someone with similar accomplishments to Frank to come here for it. Probably puts us at any mid-major outside of Shaka/Stevens. A few high majors looking to move/start over (Frank Haith types).
If Frank leaves, I bet Currie would go after oscar Weber.
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I'm convinced. Give him $2 million.
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in order to replace frank with a coach of similar ability, etc. what do you think we would have to pay and do you even think that we would be able to hire one away from their current school? because illinois just offered shaka 2.5 and got turned down. nebraska if offering really, really good money and is getting turned down left and right. this really doesn't seem that hard to me. if we're able to lure someone comparable away (strongly doubt we could) then we'll be paying much more than 1.55 average that frank will make over the lifetime of his current contract and if we can't then we're stuck hiring doc sadler 2.0 for 1.1. all that matters is what someone else thinks frank is worth and how much it would cost to replace him assuming you would even be able to. there is no situation that makes more sense then paying him more and trying to keep him.
This is Basic HR 101. It's massively cheaper to maintain the talent you already have as compared to hiring someone from the outside.
We extend Frank to $2 million a year (just guessing), and we don't have to worry about buyouts or anything like that.
On the open market, to get someone decent to jump, you'll probably have to offer at least that much, and you may have to pay some sort of buyout on top of that.
If I'm a penny pincher like Currie, the best case scenario, easily, is keeping him right where he is.
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Also I think Frank playing the game this year is different than last year. Last year it was about possibly going home to a fairly attractive job. I get that.
This year I think it's much more about disrespect. The whole Jamar thing aside, I think now Frank (and Katz) sees the $1.3 mil for this year with incentives as a bit of a slap in the face. Move the bar to 5 straight 20 win seasons with finishes above .500 in conference play, 4 NCAAs with first round wins, and really good graduation numbers and now an incentive laden contract is a bit harder on the ego. It's about guaranteed money now, the type of money other "name coaches" demand. A strained relationship with Currie only magnifies that, but I'm sure a less incentive laden contract for a guy that now knows he is the face of K-State basketball would mend that enough for him to stay.
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You can't just say "well the athletic dept made $20M so give Frank more"...at some point you draw a line and to draw that line you have to look at alternatives. Frank is clearly a good coach, is he $2M good? I don't know the answer, but it needs to be asked. Who else could we get if we start offering $2M per? Again, I don't know the answer. I love Frank, but I will admit this crap every year is already old and it likely doesn't stop anytime soon. It surely can't help recruiting. The Franking is also getting old. If Sprads leaves, I will be very disappointed. This is a kid who Frank loves and he clearly isn't "loved" in return...that's bothersome. Does this baggage come with every coach expecting $2M per?
The point to me is there is no guarantee on what $2 mil would bring to K-State, but it would seem to me that $2 mil would likely keep the guy we have. And that guy has already proven to be pretty darn good.
For the sake of comparison, what do you think 2M gets us on the open market if we go around trying to hire a coach. Honestly, I don't think we get someone with similar accomplishments to Frank to come here for it. Probably puts us at any mid-major outside of Shaka/Stevens. A few high majors looking to move/start over (Frank Haith types).
If Frank leaves, I bet Currie would go after oscar Weber.
I'd prefer we burn Bramlage to the ground before oscar Weber coaches there.
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Also I think Frank playing the game this year is different than last year. Last year it was about possibly going home to a fairly attractive job. I get that.
This year I think it's much more about disrespect. The whole Jamar thing aside, I think now Frank (and Katz) sees the $1.3 mil for this year with incentives as a bit of a slap in the face. Move the bar to 5 straight 20 win seasons with finishes above .500 in conference play, 4 NCAAs with first round wins, and really good graduation numbers and now an incentive laden contract is a bit harder on the ego. It's about guaranteed money now, the type of money other "name coaches" demand. A strained relationship with Currie only magnifies that, but I'm sure a less incentive laden contract for a guy that now knows he is the face of K-State basketball would mend that enough for him to stay.
As a fan, it's a slap in the face if they think we'd prefer they overpay some mid-major guy as opposed to the guy that's taken us to where we are today.
I mean some of the fans want that, but that's because they're stupid. Currie seems like he listens and cares what stupid people think too much.
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You can't just say "well the athletic dept made $20M so give Frank more"...at some point you draw a line and to draw that line you have to look at alternatives. Frank is clearly a good coach, is he $2M good? I don't know the answer, but it needs to be asked. Who else could we get if we start offering $2M per? Again, I don't know the answer. I love Frank, but I will admit this crap every year is already old and it likely doesn't stop anytime soon. It surely can't help recruiting. The Franking is also getting old. If Sprads leaves, I will be very disappointed. This is a kid who Frank loves and he clearly isn't "loved" in return...that's bothersome. Does this baggage come with every coach expecting $2M per?
The point to me is there is no guarantee on what $2 mil would bring to K-State, but it would seem to me that $2 mil would likely keep the guy we have. And that guy has already proven to be pretty darn good.
For the sake of comparison, what do you think 2M gets us on the open market if we go around trying to hire a coach. Honestly, I don't think we get someone with similar accomplishments to Frank to come here for it. Probably puts us at any mid-major outside of Shaka/Stevens. A few high majors looking to move/start over (Frank Haith types).
If Frank leaves, I bet Currie would go after oscar Weber.
I'd prefer we burn Bramlage to the ground before oscar Weber coaches there.
Me too, Panjandrum, me too. But can't you just see Currie rough ridin' doing it
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Frank should get a bump. My issues are his value and his tactics in getting that bump.
Frank should be paid like a Top-25 coach (which he is) and maybe a bit more because he brings some intangible exposure to the gig, I guess. CBS guest host is a good example. good face, personailty = exposure. On the flip side, who gives a crap about exposure it doesn't positively impact recruiting - which it apparently hasn't. He should be making 3rd/4th most money in Big XII, so let's bump to him to that.
Dude's tactics are bush league. Maybe it's his agent. His actively floating his name around for crap jobs to negotiate his current contract is crap. Contracts can be negotiated without undercutting your current program. Shaka Smart is a good example. Shaka turned down Illini amidst pending contract negotiations: "Shaka Smart said Thursday his decision to remain as Virginia Commonwealth's coach 'came down to the fact that I love it at VCU.'" And he's a better coach than Frank Martin.
Maybe Frank hates Currie and isn't negotiating. Maybe he's looking for a new job. Fine. Be pissed at Currie. But don't tarnish this program, this school, or this fanbase. We've given him everything he has. he was nobody before K-State and, if he leaves, I hope he's nobody after K-State. I hope he burns to the ground.
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Also I think Frank playing the game this year is different than last year. Last year it was about possibly going home to a fairly attractive job. I get that.
This year I think it's much more about disrespect. The whole Jamar thing aside, I think now Frank (and Katz) sees the $1.3 mil for this year with incentives as a bit of a slap in the face. Move the bar to 5 straight 20 win seasons with finishes above .500 in conference play, 4 NCAAs with first round wins, and really good graduation numbers and now an incentive laden contract is a bit harder on the ego. It's about guaranteed money now, the type of money other "name coaches" demand. A strained relationship with Currie only magnifies that, but I'm sure a less incentive laden contract for a guy that now knows he is the face of K-State basketball would mend that enough for him to stay.
As a fan, it's a slap in the face if they think we'd prefer they overpay some mid-major guy as opposed to the guy that's taken us to where we are today.
I mean some of the fans want that, but that's because they're stupid. Currie seems like he listens and cares what stupid people think too much.
Honestly, I don't know if we completely know what Currie thinks or who he listens to completely. Yeah, he has his part in the strained relationship with Frank and I don't doubt that the relationship has sone issues, but A TON of the speculation is based on incomplete information IMHO.
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can someone please leak to my boss that I am flirting with other employers
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#PayFrank2.0M
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can someone please leak to my boss that I am flirting with other employers
How many postseasons have to been to in the last half decade?
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#PayFrank2.0M
I'm guessing Frank would be good with #payfrank1.8Mguaranteed.
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You know what sucks worse than Frank being pursued for job openings and Frankings?
Having a coach that nobody wants and not having D1 quality kids to run off. Jesus Christ people.
Also it seems to me the people that expect unconditional loyalty from Frank are the same ones that wanted to run him off in January.
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Frank should get a bump. My issues are his value and his tactics in getting that bump.
Frank should be paid like a Top-25 coach (which he is) and maybe a bit more because he brings some intangible exposure to the gig, I guess. CBS guest host is a good example. good face, personailty = exposure. On the flip side, who gives a crap about exposure it doesn't positively impact recruiting - which it apparently hasn't. He should be making 3rd/4th most money in Big XII, so let's bump to him to that.
Dude's tactics are bush league. Maybe it's his agent. His actively floating his name around for crap jobs to negotiate his current contract is crap. Contracts can be negotiated without undercutting your current program. Shaka Smart is a good example. Shaka turned down Illini amidst pending contract negotiations: "Shaka Smart said Thursday his decision to remain as Virginia Commonwealth's coach 'came down to the fact that I love it at VCU.'" And he's a better coach than Frank Martin.
Maybe Frank hates Currie and isn't negotiating. Maybe he's looking for a new job. Fine. Be pissed at Currie. But don't tarnish this program, this school, or this fanbase. We've given him everything he has. he was nobody before K-State and, if he leaves, I hope he's nobody after K-State. I hope he burns to the ground.
1) i don't think his name is actively floating around to negotiate his current contract. i really think he might leave.
2) those last few sentences seem a little overly righteous if you ask me. he certainly wasn't a nobody when he got to kstate. you seem to think he owes you something. sad. i hope you really enjoyed that elite 8 run.
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You know what sucks worse than Frank being pursued for job openings and Frankings?
Having a coach that nobody wants and not having D1 quality kids to run off. Jesus Christ people.
Also it seems to me the people that expect unconditional loyalty from Frank are the same ones that wanted to run him off in January.
You know what is the best?
Having a coach that wants to be K-State's coach even when other programs might want him. jesus christ.
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You know what sucks worse than Frank being pursued for job openings and Frankings?
Having a coach that nobody wants and not having D1 quality kids to run off. Jesus Christ people.
Also it seems to me the people that expect unconditional loyalty from Frank are the same ones that wanted to run him off in January.
You know what is the best?
Having a coach that wants to be K-State's coach even when other programs might want him. jesus christ.
Fairly compensating a coach will increase the likelihood of that becoming the case.
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can someone please leak to my boss that I am flirting with other employers
How many postseasons have to been to in the last half decade?
26
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this isn't an issue of frank shopping around b/c he wants a raise. right or wrong, he's mad and wants to quit.
i think currie needs to start putting fingers into the dam, because it's about to break.
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You know what sucks worse than Frank being pursued for job openings and Frankings?
Having a coach that nobody wants and not having D1 quality kids to run off. Jesus Christ people.
Also it seems to me the people that expect unconditional loyalty from Frank are the same ones that wanted to run him off in January.
You know what is the best?
Having a coach that wants to be K-State's coach even when other programs might want him. jesus christ.
Sounds like you're on #TeamUnderwood then
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You know what is the best?
Having a coach that wants to be K-State's coach even when other programs might want him. jesus christ.
Yeah, but how realistic is this?
I mean we once had a guy who was from just down the road and now has his number retired at K-State and he left at one of the first chances he had to get out of here.
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You know what sucks worse than Frank being pursued for job openings and Frankings?
Having a coach that nobody wants and not having D1 quality kids to run off. Jesus Christ people.
Also it seems to me the people that expect unconditional loyalty from Frank are the same ones that wanted to run him off in January.
:thumbs:
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2) those last few sentences seem a little overly righteous if you ask me. he certainly wasn't a nobody when he got to kstate. you seem to think he owes you something. sad. i hope you really enjoyed that elite 8 run.
Frank Martin was absolutely, unequivocally nobody when he got to K-State.
i don't think he owes me, personally, anything. I think he owes this school and program a lot. Whether he stays or leaves, whether he tells Currie to go eff himself, I think Martin owes the fans and the university respect.
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this is a kid who Frank loves
:dubious:
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startings of a good meltdown here...
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this isn't an issue of frank shopping around b/c he wants a raise. right or wrong, he's mad and wants to quit.
i think currie needs to start putting fingers into the dam, because it's about to break.
Correct imo on the issue. Currie should be oil-checking the crap out of this dam.
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2) those last few sentences seem a little overly righteous if you ask me. he certainly wasn't a nobody when he got to kstate. you seem to think he owes you something. sad. i hope you really enjoyed that elite 8 run.
Frank Martin was absolutely, unequivocally nobody when he got to K-State.
i don't think he owes me, personally, anything. I think he owes this school and program a lot. Whether he stays or leaves, whether he tells Currie to go eff himself, I think Martin owes the fans and the university respect.
I agree with this. He was sleeping on a couch on some guy's basement when he came here. KSU gave him the stage to make himself. He does owe us the courtesy of not burning us publicly in any way. He's not Huggy - Huggy didn't owe us jack.
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Fairly compensating a coach will increase the likelihood of that becoming the case.
He is fairly compensated. he could be compensated more. no question. but, he's a top 35 program making top 25 money. Frank's compensation shouldn't cause him to walk off the job.
If Frank were coaching ball tonight instead of recruiting a JuCo tourney, maybe this convo would be different.
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this isn't an issue of frank shopping around b/c he wants a raise. right or wrong, he's mad and wants to quit.
i think currie needs to start putting fingers into the dam, because it's about to break.
Correct imo on the issue. Currie should be oil-checking the crap out of this dam.
Currie could still fix it IMO. Guaranteed money in a contract, whether that is Frank's intent, can do a lot to fix a damn.
Not that I necessarily think this has a high probability of happening.
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Its a job. He doesn't owe us crap. I'm not still at the same job that gave me my first gig in management, and I'd be willing to bet you all aren't at your first jobs out of loyalty either. I know for a lot of us, there is a lot of emotion involved, and I'm sure some is on Frank's part as well. But at the end of the day, it's a job and he is an employee.
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2) those last few sentences seem a little overly righteous if you ask me. he certainly wasn't a nobody when he got to kstate. you seem to think he owes you something. sad. i hope you really enjoyed that elite 8 run.
Frank Martin was absolutely, unequivocally nobody when he got to K-State.
i don't think he owes me, personally, anything. I think he owes this school and program a lot. Whether he stays or leaves, whether he tells Currie to go eff himself, I think Martin owes the fans and the university respect.
I disagree with the premise that a coach who has done what frank has done in the last 5 yrs still owes anything to the uni that gave him his start if the uni isn't compensating at fair market value. I mean, how long can you ride some implied loyalty for giving someone a job? Answer: not long if that person is really good at what they do.
Also, just because Frank wasn't an HC doesn't mean he was dogshit and that those at KSU taught him how to coach or anything. New people get hired all the time for positions they haven't held before. It's the way the entire world works.
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Yeah, but how realistic is this?
I mean we once had a guy who was from just down the road and now has his number retired at K-State and he left at one of the first chances he had to get out of here.
If paid top-25 money, I think it should be realistic. Guess I'm just naiive.
Not saying he should be locked into his K for life. He should be bumped. I just don't think this job sucks. I don't think 1.8 sucks. If Martin disagrees, maybe he should move on. If Currie won't budge, maybe he should move on.
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Fairly compensating a coach will increase the likelihood of that becoming the case.
He is fairly compensated. he could be compensated more. no question. but, he's a top 35 program making top 25 money. Frank's compensation shouldn't cause him to walk off the job.
If Frank were coaching ball tonight instead of recruiting a JuCo tourney, maybe this convo would be different.
I agree with whoevs said it above: what would we have to pay someone to come in who is currently at Frank's level or above? That is the value that you need to keep in mind.
I mean, Shaka just turned down Beem's dream job for $750,000 more per year than Frank makes at a job Beems wouildn't take in a million years.
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You know what sucks worse than Frank being pursued for job openings and Frankings?
Having a coach that nobody wants and not having D1 quality kids to run off. Jesus Christ people.
Also it seems to me the people that expect unconditional loyalty from Frank are the same ones that wanted to run him off in January.
:thumbs:
I honestly wouldn't care if Illinois wanted him and he was seriously considering it. If Calhoun retires and UConn calls, it wouldn't bother me a bit. But flirting with the SEC equivalent of Texas Tech is just dickish and rude.
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Its a job. He doesn't owe us crap. I'm not still at the same job that gave me my first gig in management, and I'd be willing to bet you all aren't at your first jobs out of loyalty either. I know for a lot of us, there is a lot of emotion involved, and I'm sure some is on Frank's part as well. But at the end of the day, it's a job and he is an employee.
But you didn't walk across the street to the Starbucks and tell people how much you hated working at XYZ Company either to try to get a raise. That's all he owes us IMHO - discretion.
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Yeah, but how realistic is this?
I mean we once had a guy who was from just down the road and now has his number retired at K-State and he left at one of the first chances he had to get out of here.
If paid top-25 money, I think it should be realistic. Guess I'm just naiive.
Not saying he should be locked into his K for life. He should be bumped. I just don't think this job sucks. I don't think 1.8 sucks. If Martin disagrees, maybe he should move on. If Currie won't budge, maybe he should move on.
He isn't paid top 25 money.
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Its a job. He doesn't owe us crap. I'm not still at the same job that gave me my first gig in management, and I'd be willing to bet you all aren't at your first jobs out of loyalty either. I know for a lot of us, there is a lot of emotion involved, and I'm sure some is on Frank's part as well. But at the end of the day, it's a job and he is an employee.
He's a college coach. he's not an accountant or mailman. Jobs like his are the reason boards like this exist. He's in the business of making passionate fans happy. It's in his job description. Selling tix.
Nobody gives a crap about people like us.
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Yeah, but how realistic is this?
I mean we once had a guy who was from just down the road and now has his number retired at K-State and he left at one of the first chances he had to get out of here.
If paid top-25 money, I think it should be realistic. Guess I'm just naiive.
Not saying he should be locked into his K for life. He should be bumped. I just don't think this job sucks. I don't think 1.8 sucks. If Martin disagrees, maybe he should move on. If Currie won't budge, maybe he should move on.
He isn't paid top 25 money.
Gotta be close....
http://www.therichest.org/sports/highest-paid-college-basketball-coaches/ Top 10 goes to $2mil
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Re: Martin and agent "floating" his name out there and other "dick" stuff.
If Martin is floating his name out there, why is he using some podunk dixiefried blogger, and Fitz equivalent rivals guy? He has Goodman in his backpocket, and Goodman has only mentioned things to squash the rumors.
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According to this, Frank was 24th as of his last contract.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2011-coaches-salary-database.htm
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Its a job. He doesn't owe us crap. I'm not still at the same job that gave me my first gig in management, and I'd be willing to bet you all aren't at your first jobs out of loyalty either. I know for a lot of us, there is a lot of emotion involved, and I'm sure some is on Frank's part as well. But at the end of the day, it's a job and he is an employee.
He's a college coach. he's not an accountant or mailman. Jobs like his are the reason boards like this exist. He's in the business of making passionate fans happy. It's in his job description. Selling tix.
Nobody gives a crap about people like us.
This all is no reason why he should feel obligated to stay at a job if he feels he would be happier somewhere else. Any expectation for him to do so out of some sense of "owing us" is just stupid. That would be stupid for any job, regardless of being a coach/mailman/accountant/etc.
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According to this, Frank was 24th as of his last contract.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2011-coaches-salary-database.htm
That was only for coaches/teams who made the tourney last year
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For me the number is $1.75 million a year, toss in bonuses he'll make nearly $2 million a year.
Anything beyond needs to come with painting another Final Four year up on the wall or least some trophies a little more elite than some nameless mid-season tourney in Hawaii.
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According to this, Frank was 24th as of his last contract.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2011-coaches-salary-database.htm
That was only for coaches/teams who made the tourney last year
Ah, good catch. IMHO still a reasonable comparison source though. Doubt very many high paid coaches missed the tourney.
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Yeah, but how realistic is this?
I mean we once had a guy who was from just down the road and now has his number retired at K-State and he left at one of the first chances he had to get out of here.
If paid top-25 money, I think it should be realistic. Guess I'm just naiive.
Not saying he should be locked into his K for life. He should be bumped. I just don't think this job sucks. I don't think 1.8 sucks. If Martin disagrees, maybe he should move on. If Currie won't budge, maybe he should move on.
He isn't paid top 25 money.
Gotta be close....
http://www.therichest.org/sports/highest-paid-college-basketball-coaches/ Top 10 goes to $2mil
Frank is 24th on this list, and I know Buzz Williams and Matt Painter got new deals that put them past Frank. It is also only NCAA coaches, so it doesn't consider guys like Anthony Grant and Travis Ford that make over $2million.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2011-coaches-salary-database.htm
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For me the number is $1.75 million a year, toss in bonuses he'll make nearly $2 million a year.
Anything beyond needs to come with painting another Final Four year up on the wall or least some trophies a little more elite than some nameless mid-season tourney in Hawaii.
To me that seemed like a fair number until I considered who KSU would land for that on an open market. The candidates in that price range or lower are going to be complete dogshit.
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Yeah, but how realistic is this?
I mean we once had a guy who was from just down the road and now has his number retired at K-State and he left at one of the first chances he had to get out of here.
If paid top-25 money, I think it should be realistic. Guess I'm just naiive.
Not saying he should be locked into his K for life. He should be bumped. I just don't think this job sucks. I don't think 1.8 sucks. If Martin disagrees, maybe he should move on. If Currie won't budge, maybe he should move on.
god damnit. if you quote that incorrect 1.8 number one more rough ridin' time i am going to drive to where you work and let the air out of your tires.
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Some schools are just dumb . . . Travis Ford isn't worth over $2 million a year.
$145,833 a month for Frank sounds about right, plus car allowance, clubs, travel, expense account, nice bonus structure . . .pretty sweet gig, without tremendously high expectations.
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Some schools are just dumb . . . Travis Ford isn't worth over $2 million a year.
$145,833 a month for Frank sounds about right, plus car allowance, clubs, travel, expense account, nice bonus structure . . .pretty sweet gig, without tremendously high expectations.
every coach gets those perks and bonuses - you keep acting like those are Frank Martin exclusives. Seriously, you need to think about who KSU would get for 1.8 on the open market.
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I don't think Frank's happy here anymore. He's seemed sad ever since Dalonte left. Maybe they were best friends. :frown:
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For me the number is $1.75 million a year, toss in bonuses he'll make nearly $2 million a year.
Anything beyond needs to come with painting another Final Four year up on the wall or least some trophies a little more elite than some nameless mid-season tourney in Hawaii.
To me that seemed like a fair number until I considered who KSU would land for that on an open market. The candidates in that price range or lower are going to be complete dogshit.
that's where i'm at.
i wonder what the value of our BPF would be in a coaching search.
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The latest from a buddy of mine who works in the South Carolina athletic department
third party talks have begun with Martin.. According to people on our end, if offered the position Frank will be our next coach
:actuallygettingnervousnow:
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maybe Frank doesn't want to play bff Huggy twice a year?
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The latest from a buddy of mine who works in the South Carolina athletic department
third party talks have begun with Martin.. According to people on our end, if offered the position Frank will be our next coach
:actuallygettingnervousnow:
if true, Katz is an even bigger moron. Who tells someone you'd accept the job before details are finalized?
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I do think it bruises Frank's ego that Travis Ford makes more than him. I do think he ultimately would like to be paid a guaranteed salary that pays him commensurately with top 3-4 in this league and I would agree that he serves it. 1.8 to 2 million seems fair.
At the end of the day, I really don't believe money is the driver this time around.
Floating his name out there for a dogshit school like South Carolin is about getting back at somebody. Let's call it what it is. To me, this is about a serious, deep seated personal conflict and his feeling that he has been wronged and disrespected. Frank is an emotionally driven individual. We see this crap on the sidelines every week. You don't just turn that off like a light switch. It is who he is. Like a lot of things with Frank, he takes things extremely personally. Whether it's rational or not, he's got a serious vendetta against his boss and the compliance department and it played out very publicly in the past week and it is only going to to fester if something doesn't change drastically.
Ultimately, will he cut off his nose to spite his face? I don't know.
When people close to the situation I know are saying the stuff they are saying right now, there's reason for concern.
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I don't think Frank's happy here anymore. He's seemed sad ever since Dalonte left. Maybe they were best friends. :frown:
I think Kathouse waitresses were Dalonte's best friends (not joking)
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The latest from a buddy of mine who works in the South Carolina athletic department
third party talks have begun with Martin.. According to people on our end, if offered the position Frank will be our next coach
:actuallygettingnervousnow:
does your buddy also listen to petro's show? b/c that's what the dude from some rivals SC site said at 10:00 am.
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IMO you flirt with SC as a power play against Curry (whether for financial or structural concessions). It isn't Miami or Uconn so you must ask why? The only answer is Curry.
Now if we are talking about resume building running your successful MBB coach with no contingency doesn't look good.
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I bet Brad Underwood could land Shemi
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oscar Weber is going to look great in purple
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oscar Weber is going to look great in purple
WOULD TAKE
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oscar Weber is going to look great in purple
can't wait until he hosts Frank Martin's funeral
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I'm going to stick with guaranteed money as a key here for Frank and Katz. When you look at $1.3 mil it looks pretty small timey. And when you have to add a bunch of incentives it sounds like a guy who hasn't proven he can coach. I'm sure Frank takes offense to both, seriously.
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I don't think money has crap to do with it anymore.......psyche, it so does.
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oscar Weber Pearl is going to look great in purple
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I'm going to stick with guaranteed money as a key here for Frank and Katz. When you look at $1.3 mil it looks pretty small timey. And when you have to add a bunch of incentives it sounds like a guy who hasn't proven he can coach. I'm sure Frank takes offense to both, seriously.
EVERYONE gets incentives like Frank got. $2.0 OR BUST
I don't think money has crap to do with it anymore.......psyche, it so does.
no, but it can help. money = respect
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oscar Weber Pearl is going to look great in purple
Honestly, if Currie and Frank's mutual face hate made frank leave, but it turned out that JC and oscar Pearl were really good drinking buddies and JC brought Pearl in.....I would get over it pretty quickly.
Love me some Frank, but am a big Pearl fan too.
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I don't think money has crap to do with it anymore.......psyche, it so does.
Again, I'm not saying Currie will do it, but the one bridge he can "unburn is with money". He can come to Frank and say "look, I've done some stupid things, you've done some stupid things. I'm willing to concede and fix mine, how about we sit down and bump your guaranteed money up the ball park of other college coaches with a 5 year track record like yours."
Maybe it wouldn't be enough, but it wouldn't hurt.
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Frank takes offense to everything. My god Frank just get over it.
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oscar Weber Pearl is going to look great in purple
Honestly, if Currie and Frank's mutual face hate made frank leave, but it turned out that JC and oscar Pearl were really good drinking buddies and JC brought Pearl in.....I would get over it pretty quickly.
Love me some Frank, but am a big Pearl fan too.
I think he still has 2 years left on his show clause.
Frank takes offense to everything. My god Frank just get over it.
qft
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If you told me we were trading Frank for oscar Pearl this very second AND Angel was staying I would take that trade. Take it right right to the bank....swoosh.
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If you told me we were trading Frank for oscar Pearl this very second AND Angel was staying I would take that trade. Take it right right to the bank....swoosh.
For sure.
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What is the Pearl situation like? How much time on his show cause? What about Sampson? People in KS love denim shirts.
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I'm going to stick with guaranteed money as a key here for Frank and Katz. When you look at $1.3 mil it looks pretty small timey. And when you have to add a bunch of incentives it sounds like a guy who hasn't proven he can coach. I'm sure Frank takes offense to both, seriously.
EVERYONE gets incentives like Frank got. $2.0 OR BUST
I don't think money has crap to do with it anymore.......psyche, it so does.
no, but it can help. money = respect
i'm with sd. if i'm currie and i'm not kidding in the slightest then i go to frank right now and ask him what his frustrations are and how could i as an athletic director do a better job in trying to help him. i'd ask for input and insight and let him know that i, like him am new to the job that i have. i'd tell him that i'm learning as i go just as he is. mistakes were made blah, blah blah. then i'd let him vent. then get to the contract stuff. unless it's beyond that in which case we're screwed.
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I don't know. Pearl is on with Goodman on the College Sports station of siriusxm and he is fantastic. better than leach was on the football season one.
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guys,
currie couldn't figure out a way around the jamar situation. you honest to god think that he is going to be the first one to give pearl another shot? jesus christ. :flush:
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i'm with sd. if i'm currie and i'm not kidding in the slightest then i go to frank right now and ask him what his frustrations are and how could i as an athletic director do a better job in trying to help him. i'd ask for input and insight and let him know that i, like him am new to the job that i have. i'd tell him that i'm learning as i go just as he is. mistakes were made blah, blah blah. then i'd let him vent. then get to the contract stuff. unless it's beyond that in which case we're screwed.
Agree with all that, just seems reasonable for both sides.
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I wonder if Frank has ever considered crushing Currie like a dove?
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I'm going to stick with guaranteed money as a key here for Frank and Katz. When you look at $1.3 mil it looks pretty small timey. And when you have to add a bunch of incentives it sounds like a guy who hasn't proven he can coach. I'm sure Frank takes offense to both, seriously.
EVERYONE gets incentives like Frank got. $2.0 OR BUST
I don't think money has crap to do with it anymore.......psyche, it so does.
no, but it can help. money = respect
i'm with sd. if i'm currie and i'm not kidding in the slightest then i go to frank right now and ask him what his frustrations are and how could i as an athletic director do a better job in trying to help him. i'd ask for input and insight and let him know that i, like him am new to the job that i have. i'd tell him that i'm learning as i go just as he is. mistakes were made blah, blah blah. then i'd let him vent. then get to the contract stuff. unless it's beyond that in which case we're screwed.
Well yeah. That's what I would do too, because I am a grown up. But he can't do everything you said and not offer a fat raise.
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I'd just fire his ass and hire someone else. nobody wants frank so we are going to have to pull the trigger ourselves.
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Bump to $1.75 and then have a built in increase every year, $1.75, $1.9, $2.05.
But I am with Wabash, this really isn't about the money.
And yeah, I think the excitement of K-State and oscar Pearl in front of the NCAA telling them that oscar has learned his listen and will never ever ever ever ever do anything bad again would make for some fantastic BBS'ing.
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still #teamfrank
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I'm going to stick with guaranteed money as a key here for Frank and Katz. When you look at $1.3 mil it looks pretty small timey. And when you have to add a bunch of incentives it sounds like a guy who hasn't proven he can coach. I'm sure Frank takes offense to both, seriously.
EVERYONE gets incentives like Frank got. $2.0 OR BUST
I don't think money has crap to do with it anymore.......psyche, it so does.
no, but it can help. money = respect
i'm with sd. if i'm currie and i'm not kidding in the slightest then i go to frank right now and ask him what his frustrations are and how could i as an athletic director do a better job in trying to help him. i'd ask for input and insight and let him know that i, like him am new to the job that i have. i'd tell him that i'm learning as i go just as he is. mistakes were made blah, blah blah. then i'd let him vent. then get to the contract stuff. unless it's beyond that in which case we're screwed.
Well yeah. That's what I would do too, because I am a grown up. But he can't do everything you said and not offer a fat raise.
yes but i don't think the contract renogotiations are able to start until april 1st per contract or whatever. something has to be done now. and something has to be done before the contract renogotiations happen assuming we even get there.
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What is the Pearl situation like? How much time on his show cause? What about Sampson? People in KS love denim shirts.
Sampson? lol, no. I think Sampson has a year or 2 left on his show cause as well. When did he get whacked from Indiana, back in 2008? Besides, purple denim.....just can't get into that.
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Contract renegotiations can start whenever they want as long as both parties are on board with doing such.
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Pffft. There's no way in hell Currie touches Pearl (or Sampson) with a 10-foot pole. After watching the Jamar situation unfold, why would anyone even throw these names out there? Stop getting yourselves excited, people, unless you think Currie's on his way out the door right after Frank.
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Pffft. There's no way in hell Currie touches Pearl (or Sampson) with a 10-foot pole. After watching the Jamar situation unfold, why would anyone even throw these names out there? Stop getting yourselves excited, people, unless you think Currie's on his way out the door right after Frank.
This is where the fire currie bus starts getting warmed up. The last thing we need is a self righteous ethical guy running the show. Not saying this is the case, but it would easily prove itself out under a fire then hire scenario given the right timing.
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Currie's on his way out the door right after Frank.
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Yes, I think Currie would take Pearl.
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Yes, I think Currie would take Pearl.
How does this play out after the last week? Specifically, how does he sell it to the tucks who think Jamar got off easy?
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yes but i don't think the contract renogotiations are able to start until april 1st per contract or whatever. something has to be done now. and something has to be done before the contract renogotiations happen assuming we even get there.
Yeah, this is part of the contract. Frank met one of the conditions for this to happen by finishing tied for 3rd last season.
The negotiation period is April 1st through May 31st.
If an agreement for a "modification, extension, or revised agreement" is not met, Frank's buyout becomes $500K until May of 2014.
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I disagree with the premise that a coach who has done what frank has done in the last 5 yrs still owes anything to the uni that gave him his start if the uni isn't compensating at fair market value.
Frank demanded money. We paid him 1.5. he cried. he finished 4th, 5th in Conference - 1st round conference tourney losses - 2nd round NCAA tourney losses - poor recruiting.
Let's pay the eff out him. He's "earned" it since 2010.
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Yes, I think Currie would take Pearl.
How does this play out after the last week? Specifically, how does he sell it to the tucks who think Jamar got off easy?
The Jamar situation shows the NCAA that Pearl would be working alongside a very vigilant compliance staff. This shows tucks that Currie won't let Pearl get away with the crap he pulled at Tennessee. It's actually the perfect setup for Pearl to return to coaching.
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I disagree with the premise that a coach who has done what frank has done in the last 5 yrs still owes anything to the uni that gave him his start if the uni isn't compensating at fair market value.
Frank demanded money. We paid him 1.5. he cried. he finished 4th, 5th in Conference - 1st round conference tourney losses - 2nd round NCAA tourney losses - poor recruiting.
Let's pay the eff out him. He's "earned" it since 2010.
Lesser coaches would not come here for the same money and Frank could get more elsewhere. That should concern you more than anything frank has not accomplished in the last two years.
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I disagree with the premise that a coach who has done what frank has done in the last 5 yrs still owes anything to the uni that gave him his start if the uni isn't compensating at fair market value.
Frank demanded money. We paid him 1.5. he cried. he finished 4th, 5th in Conference - 1st round conference tourney losses - 2nd round NCAA tourney losses - poor recruiting.
Let's pay the eff out him. He's "earned" it since 2010.
You aren't good at this Belvis.
#TeamFrank
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Yes, I think Currie would take Pearl.
How does this play out after the last week? Specifically, how does he sell it to the tucks who think Jamar got off easy?
The Jamar situation shows the NCAA that Pearl would be working alongside a very vigilant compliance staff. This shows tucks that Currie won't let Pearl get away with the crap he pulled at Tennessee. It's actually the perfect setup for Pearl to return to coaching.
fantastic point rus :thumbs:
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I disagree with the premise that a coach who has done what frank has done in the last 5 yrs still owes anything to the uni that gave him his start if the uni isn't compensating at fair market value.
Frank demanded money. We paid him 1.5. he cried. he finished 4th, 5th in Conference - 1st round conference tourney losses - 2nd round NCAA tourney losses - poor recruiting.
Let's pay the eff out him. He's "earned" it since 2010.
Guaranteed money matters at this point. Its nice to throw around the numbers that Frank makes after incentives, but that will not be what Katz/Frank use as comparisons when they get to the negotiation table.
Also, I read some more of the contract and Frank's buyout right now is $1 Mil. It drops to half of that after April 15th.
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Yes, I think Currie would take Pearl.
How does this play out after the last week? Specifically, how does he sell it to the tucks who think Jamar got off easy?
The Jamar situation shows the NCAA that Pearl would be working alongside a very vigilant compliance staff. This shows tucks that Currie won't let Pearl get away with the crap he pulled at Tennessee. It's actually the perfect setup for Pearl to return to coaching.
Okay, sounds good to me. I retract my statement about no chance of Pearl with Currie.
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chances Currie is a genius that has set this entire thing up to get Pearl and then commence cheating our fucks off and winning games like pew pew pew everywhere we look? 60%?
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I disagree with the premise that a coach who has done what frank has done in the last 5 yrs still owes anything to the uni that gave him his start if the uni isn't compensating at fair market value.
Frank demanded money. We paid him 1.5. he cried. he finished 4th, 5th in Conference - 1st round conference tourney losses - 2nd round NCAA tourney losses - poor recruiting.
Let's pay the eff out him. He's "earned" it since 2010.
Guaranteed money matters at this point. Its nice to throw around the numbers that Frank makes after incentives, but that will not be what Katz/Frank use as comparisons when they get to the negotiation table.
Also, I read some more of the contract and Frank's buyout right now is $1 Mil. It drops to half of that after April 15th.
Going to be a long 3 weeks :frown:
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I disagree with the premise that a coach who has done what frank has done in the last 5 yrs still owes anything to the uni that gave him his start if the uni isn't compensating at fair market value.
Frank demanded money. We paid him 1.5. he cried. he finished 4th, 5th in Conference - 1st round conference tourney losses - 2nd round NCAA tourney losses - poor recruiting.
Let's pay the eff out him. He's "earned" it since 2010.
Guaranteed money matters at this point. Its nice to throw around the numbers that Frank makes after incentives, but that will not be what Katz/Frank use as comparisons when they get to the negotiation table.
Also, I read some more of the contract and Frank's buyout right now is $1 Mil. It drops to half of that after April 15th.
so if currie can run frank off before april 15th he makes an extra 1.0 for the athletic dept. good to know.
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so if currie can run frank off before april 15th he makes an extra 1.0 for the athletic dept. good to know.
An extra $500K. But yeah.
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Guaranteed money matters at this point. Its nice to throw around the numbers that Frank makes after incentives, but that will not be what Katz/Frank use as comparisons when they get to the negotiation table.
Also, I read some more of the contract and Frank's buyout right now is $1 Mil. It drops to half of that after April 15th.
Money has nothing to do with this.
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#teampearl
just imagine the nonsense....he would probably slap deb on the ass and call her "old girl" and stuff. :lol:
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The latest from a buddy of mine who works in the South Carolina athletic department
third party talks have begun with Martin.. According to people on our end, if offered the position Frank will be our next coach
:actuallygettingnervousnow:
does your buddy also listen to petro's show? b/c that's what the dude from some rivals SC site said at 10:00 am.
The dude from the rivals SC site must have talked to my buddy
:gocho:
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Frank's not going to quit without a job somewhere else. Add to that the fact that nobody wants Frank and you have a serious prediciment for our old buddy John Currie. Do you fire him? You have to consider it don't you?
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SD do that "pew, pew" thing again!
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March 23rd, 2012 10:48 AM? Posted By: John Pennington ? Permalink ? Tags: South Carolina
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Though the folks in Kansas don’t seem to be taking this one too seriously, people in the Palmetto State are still saying Kansas State’s Frank Martin might just wind up coaching in Columbia next season.
Three days ago, GamecockCentral.com — the Rivals site covering Carolina — reported that K-State’s coach had “heavy” interest in the job vacated by Darrin Horn’s ouster. The Kansas City media shrugged it off.
Wednesday, the same site reported that there had been contact between Martin and AD Eric Hyman and that “Martin is more than willing to come to Columbia.”
Today, there’s more speculation that Martin — who’ll be helping to cover the NCAA Tournament for CBS this weekend — could be high on Hyman’s list of candidates. This writer says “Frank Martin apparently is a possibility.”
Meanwhile WSPA-TV in Spartanburg reports that Martin and Minnesota’s Tubby Smith “are primary targets in USC’s head basketball coaching search, according to the South Carolina News Network.”
If Carolina lands Martin, you can color us surprised. Martin is coaching in a basketball hotbed right now and making more than $1.5 million per season. That deal runs through 2014-15, but he’s also in line — through contract stipulations — for an extension.
South Carolina’s job has been a Bermuda Triangle for coaches. The SEC is about to become a 14-team league (read: harder to win) while the Big 12 has now become a 10-team conference (read: easier to win). At Kansas State, there’s the shadow of Kansas to live under. At Carolina, Kentucky and Florida are the big dogs.
Add it up and it would probably take a hefty bag of cash — maybe even a Hefty Bag of cash — to lure Martin to Columbia. That or Martin could be hacked off enough at his current school’s decision to suspend a key player for an NCAA tourney game that he’s willing to bolt for any school making an offer. We think that’s doubtful, but we don’t claim to know what goes on behind closed doors in Manhattan, Kansas.
Taking everything into consideration, we’re not saying Martin to Carolina couldn’t happen, but if it does you’ll know that USC’s Hyman will have done some seriously heavy lifting.
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Anyone who thinks that "money has nothing to do with this" is wrong. Money has to do with everything, especially college coaching. I'd be willing to bet that a nice pay raise would soothe Frank's Red Ass quite nicely.
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March 23rd, 2012 10:48 AM? Posted By: John Pennington ? Permalink ? Tags: South Carolina
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Though the folks in Kansas don’t seem to be taking this one too seriously, people in the Palmetto State are still saying Kansas State’s Frank Martin might just wind up coaching in Columbia next season.
Three days ago, GamecockCentral.com — the Rivals site covering Carolina — reported that K-State’s coach had “heavy” interest in the job vacated by Darrin Horn’s ouster. The Kansas City media shrugged it off.
Wednesday, the same site reported that there had been contact between Martin and AD Eric Hyman and that “Martin is more than willing to come to Columbia.”
Today, there’s more speculation that Martin — who’ll be helping to cover the NCAA Tournament for CBS this weekend — could be high on Hyman’s list of candidates. This writer says “Frank Martin apparently is a possibility.”
Meanwhile WSPA-TV in Spartanburg reports that Martin and Minnesota’s Tubby Smith “are primary targets in USC’s head basketball coaching search, according to the South Carolina News Network.”
If Carolina lands Martin, you can color us surprised. Martin is coaching in a basketball hotbed right now and making more than $1.5 million per season. That deal runs through 2014-15, but he’s also in line — through contract stipulations — for an extension.
South Carolina’s job has been a Bermuda Triangle for coaches. The SEC is about to become a 14-team league (read: harder to win) while the Big 12 has now become a 10-team conference (read: easier to win). At Kansas State, there’s the shadow of Kansas to live under. At Carolina, Kentucky and Florida are the big dogs.
Add it up and it would probably take a hefty bag of cash — maybe even a Hefty Bag of cash — to lure Martin to Columbia. That or Martin could be hacked off enough at his current school’s decision to suspend a key player for an NCAA tourney game that he’s willing to bolt for any school making an offer. We think that’s doubtful, but we don’t claim to know what goes on behind closed doors in Manhattan, Kansas.
Taking everything into consideration, we’re not saying Martin to Carolina couldn’t happen, but if it does you’ll know that USC’s Hyman will have done some seriously heavy lifting.
It's Frank!
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South Carolina’s job has been a Bermuda Triangle for coaches. The SEC is about to become a 14-team league (read: harder to win) while the Big 12 has now become a 10-team conference (read: easier to win). At Kansas State, there’s the shadow of Kansas to live under. At Carolina, Kentucky and Florida are the big dogs.
:lol:
texas tech could win the sec
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quick thought re:frank money.
dalonte was paid a lot at the beginning and that no doubt had an effect on how much we could/would pay frank. dalonte kept making the same amount of money when/after frank got his new contract. the fact that he isn't here anymore automatically frees up 300k guaranteed money for frank. add another 300k, apologize for not knowing everything about your job and stress that you want to help and not hurt and then lets call it a day.
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#stillnotworried
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Frank deserves to be firmly in the top 4 paid big 12 coaches.
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quick thought re:frank money.
nobody else wants him, why should we pay him any more than we already do. during round one of the contract renegotiations Currie should slide a xerox'd photo of his ass across the table to Frank and ask him what his counter demand is.
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Frank's not going to quit without a job somewhere else. Add to that the fact that nobody wants Frank and you have a serious prediciment for our old buddy John Currie. Do you fire him? You have to consider it don't you?
John is best buds with the NCAA, so he would know whether or not Pearl can get reinstated. If the NCAA says yes, Currie tells Frank to not let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya and have fun in the Topeka of the south (if they want you, lmao).
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blah, blah, blah, money, money, blah, contract, bonus, money, blah.
jfc, you dumbasses, this has absolutely nothing to do with money. it doesn't even have anything to do with samuels. this is purely about blind hatred. nothing more, nothing less.
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quick thought re:frank money.
nobody else wants him, why should we pay him any more than we already do. during round one of the contract renegotiations Currie should slide a xerox'd photo of his ass across the table to Frank and ask him what his counter demand is.
If I were Currie, I'd slide him a picture of oscar Pearl in some board shorts partying like an Ace.
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blah, blah, blah, money, money, blah, contract, bonus, money, blah.
jfc, you dumbasses, this has absolutely nothing to do with money. it doesn't even have anything to do with samuels. this is purely about blind hatred. nothing more, nothing less.
If money wasn't a factor, Frank would have left a long time ago.
Dumbass.
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quick thought re:frank money.
nobody else wants him, why should we pay him any more than we already do. during round one of the contract renegotiations Currie should slide a xerox'd photo of his ass across the table to Frank and ask him what his counter demand is.
If I were Currie, I'd slide him a picture of oscar Pearl in some board shorts partying like an Ace.
Can you imagine a party with oscar and bsac? My God.
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If Martin were offered 1.8-2mil and left to take 1.8-2mil at SoCa...
are people #teamCurrie or #Frank?
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Scene:
-A redass Frank and Katz sit alone in a conference room at a table. The meeting time came and went 16 minutes ago. Suddenly the door flys open and a drunk John Currie stumbles in laughing.
Currie: Sorry I'm late guys, lunch ran a bit drunkIMEANlong.
-Frank stands up in a rage but before the first word comes out of his mouth a hand grabs the door that is closing and oscar Pearl wobbles in and takes a seat next to John Currie. Frank is dumbfounded and stands there like a rough ridin' idiot with his finger still pointed at Currie.
Currie: You guys know oscar, right? He's agreed to act as an advisor in our contract talks. I hope you don't mind.
-Currie and oscar high five and laugh as the scene star wipes to black
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quick thought re:frank money.
nobody else wants him, why should we pay him any more than we already do. during round one of the contract renegotiations Currie should slide a xerox'd photo of his ass across the table to Frank and ask him what his counter demand is.
If I were Currie, I'd slide him a picture of oscar Pearl in some board shorts partying like an Ace.
Can you imagine a party with oscar and bsac? My God.
BSAC has personally told me he'd let BP drive "Closing Argument" any time, no matter how many beers he had drank.
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Scene:
-A redass Frank and Katz sit alone in a conference room at a table. The meeting time came and went 16 minutes ago. Suddenly the door flys open and a drunk John Currie stumbles in laughing.
Currie: Sorry I'm late guys, lunch ran a bit drunkIMEANlong.
-Frank stands up in a rage but before the first word comes out of his mouth a hand grabs the door that is closing and oscar Pearl wobbles in and takes a seat next to John Currie. Frank is dumbfounded and stands there like a rough ridin' idiot with his finger still pointed at Currie.
Currie: You guys know oscar, right? He's agreed to act as an advisor in our contract talks. I hope you don't mind.
-Currie and oscar high five and laugh as the scene fades to black
You need to include that both oscar and Currie have sunglasses with croakies.
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Scene:
-A redass Frank and Katz sit alone in a conference room at a table. The meeting time came and went 16 minutes ago. Suddenly the door flys open and a drunk John Currie stumbles in laughing.
Currie: Sorry I'm late guys, lunch ran a bit drunkIMEANlong.
-Frank stands up in a rage but before the first word comes out of his mouth a hand grabs the door that is closing and oscar Pearl wobbles in and takes a seat next to John Currie. Frank is dumbfounded and stands there like a rough ridin' idiot with his finger still pointed at Currie.
Currie: You guys know oscar, right? He's agreed to act as an advisor in our contract talks. I hope you don't mind.
-Currie and oscar high five and laugh as the scene star wipes to black
:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
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Scene:
-A redass Frank and Katz sit alone in a conference room at a table. The meeting time came and went 16 minutes ago. Suddenly the door flys open and a drunk John Currie stumbles in laughing.
Currie: Sorry I'm late guys, lunch ran a bit drunkIMEANlong.
-Frank stands up in a rage but before the first word comes out of his mouth a hand grabs the door that is closing and oscar Pearl wobbles in and takes a seat next to John Currie. Frank is dumbfounded and stands there like a rough ridin' idiot with his finger still pointed at Currie.
Currie: You guys know oscar, right? He's agreed to act as an advisor in our contract talks. I hope you don't mind.
-Currie and oscar high five and laugh as the scene star wipes to black
maybe in the next scene you could have currie and pearl double-teaming erin andrews while frank watches and cries
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Scene:
-A redass Frank and Katz sit alone in a conference room at a table. The meeting time came and went 16 minutes ago. Suddenly the door flys open and a drunk John Currie stumbles in laughing.
Currie: Sorry I'm late guys, lunch ran a bit drunkIMEANlong.
-Frank stands up in a rage but before the first word comes out of his mouth a hand grabs the door that is closing and oscar Pearl wobbles in and takes a seat next to John Currie. Frank is dumbfounded and stands there like a rough ridin' idiot with his finger still pointed at Currie.
Currie: You guys know oscar, right? He's agreed to act as an advisor in our contract talks. I hope you don't mind.
-Currie and oscar high five and laugh as the scene fades to black
You need to include that both oscar and Currie have sunglasses with croakies.
and def zinc oxide noses
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Am I looking at this right? Frank leaves before April 15, he'd owe $1 million buyout, lose a $250,000 retention payment, and give up any claim to another retention payment (up to $200,000 as of now). Doesn't seem like he will be going anywhere... right away anyways. That is unless, his will to leave it bigger than the money... or USC will put up the dough.
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/college/mensbasketball/big12/2010-03-07-kansas-state-martin-contract.pdf
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does anyone know if pearl recruits players who can make basketball shots
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Scene:
-A redass Frank and Katz sit alone in a conference room at a table. The meeting time came and went 16 minutes ago. Suddenly the door flys open and a drunk John Currie stumbles in laughing.
Currie: Sorry I'm late guys, lunch ran a bit drunkIMEANlong.
-Frank stands up in a rage but before the first word comes out of his mouth a hand grabs the door that is closing and oscar Pearl wobbles in and takes a seat next to John Currie. Frank is dumbfounded and stands there like a rough ridin' idiot with his finger still pointed at Currie.
Currie: You guys know oscar, right? He's agreed to act as an advisor in our contract talks. I hope you don't mind.
-Currie and oscar high five and laugh as the scene star wipes to black
omg :thumbs: :lol:
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does anyone know if pearl recruits players who can make basketball shots
tucks would hate the players he recruits, but oh man
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can they make basketball shots like crazy
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omg
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:love:
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Am I looking at this right? Frank leaves before April 15, he'd owe $1 million buyout, lose a $250,000 retention payment, and give up any claim to another retention payment (up to $200,000 as of now). Doesn't seem like he will be going anywhere... right away anyways. That is unless, his will to leave it bigger than the money... or USC will put up the dough.
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/college/mensbasketball/big12/2010-03-07-kansas-state-martin-contract.pdf
Yes, all of that is true.
I suppose you could look at SC's $2.4 Mil buyout of Darren Horn 1 of 2 ways.
a) They have plenty of money to spend, so Frank's $1.0 Mil buyout and even the $250K are no big deal.
b) They will be looking for an up and comer that they can pay decent, but may not have a lot of extra cash laying around to spend on more buy-outs.
Horn's was making $1.2 Mil at SC.
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does anyone know if pearl recruits players who can make basketball shots
tucks would hate the players he recruits, but oh man
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can they make basketball shots like crazy
my god, and just imagine if they weren't required to wear adidas :love:
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does anyone know if pearl recruits players who can make basketball shots
tucks would hate the players he recruits, but oh man
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can they make basketball shots like crazy
I could get into that
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does anyone know if pearl recruits players who can make basketball shots
tucks would hate the players he recruits, but oh man
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can they make basketball shots like crazy
what would tucks say about him being president/ceo of the jewish coaches association?
http://jewishcoaches.com/index.php/membership/
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Frank seems very much like a fam guy. Fam guys move for two reasons:
1. money
2. money and location/proximity to fam
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Maybe Frank can go teach math somewhere. God knows nobody else is going to let his basketball circus come to town.
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Am I looking at this right? Frank leaves before April 15, he'd owe $1 million buyout, lose a $250,000 retention payment, and give up any claim to another retention payment (up to $200,000 as of now). Doesn't seem like he will be going anywhere... right away anyways. That is unless, his will to leave it bigger than the money... or USC will put up the dough.
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/college/mensbasketball/big12/2010-03-07-kansas-state-martin-contract.pdf
Yes, all of that is true.
I suppose you could look at SC's $2.4 Mil buyout of Darren Horn 1 of 2 ways.
a) They have plenty of money to spend, so Frank's $1.0 Mil buyout and even the $250K are no big deal.
b) They will be looking for an up and comer that they can pay decent, but may not have a lot of extra cash laying around to spend on more buy-outs.
Horn's was making $1.2 Mil at SC.
In the article from the SC news station I linked a few pages back made sure to mention that Tubby didn't have a buyout.
I know that SC shouldn't have a money issue, but they may be unwilling to part with $3.4 million in the buyout of an old coach and the hiring of a new one, while paying the new one more guaranteed money.
Just a thought.
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Frank seems very much like a fam guy. Fam guys move for two reasons:
1. money
2. money and location/proximity to fam
We're his family now, CNS.
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Guys, relax.
@kstate_pres retweet: "Happy Birthday @FrankMartinKSU! Thanks for another great basketball season! Go #Kstate!"
@John_Currie retweet: "Happy Birthday to @FrankMartinKSU. Wishing him a great day from Wildcat Nation!"
Sounds like everybody's getting along just fine. Although, they are "re"tweets. not just tweets. FWIW.
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Is he gone yet or what? :popcorn:
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not gonna lie guise, always been a bit jealous of these hats. Now i get to wear one! :emawkid:
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We definitely have the battered wife snydrome
OMG is frank going to leave us for Oregon/Depaul? crap He's going to leave, eff him, he never liked us anyways, such an bad person, I'm over him, what else is out there? O he didnt leave and led us to the tourney again? I LOVE FRANK!
OMG is frank going to leave us for Miami? crap He's going to leave, eff him, he never liked us anyways, such an bad person, I'm over him, what else is out there? O he didnt leave and led us to the tourney again? I LOVE FRANK!
OMG is frank going to leave us for South Carolina? crap He's going to leave, eff him, he never liked us anyways, such an bad person, I'm over him, what else is out there? O he didnt leave and led us to the tourney again? I LOVE FRANK!
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So what are our official Frank seasons? We have:
-Franuary where he sucks ass all over the court
-Frankruary where he dominates on the court and we all party
-Frarch where he exactly meet expectations
-Frapril where he's a whiny bitch and everyone used to freak out but now we're, like, get over it Frank you rough ridin' idiot. Nobody wants to hire you anyway. You are stuck with us and vice versa. Go sign some decent recruits and quit running off our mediocre players. Or just hit the road. Nobody really gives a eff anymore. It's basically football season anyway and we have bigger fish to fry.
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We definitely have the battered wife snydrome
OMG is frank going to leave us for Oregon/Depaul? crap He's going to leave, eff him, he never liked us anyways, such an bad person, I'm over him, what else is out there? O he didnt leave and led us to the tourney again? I LOVE FRANK!
OMG is frank going to leave us for Miami? crap He's going to leave, eff him, he never liked us anyways, such an bad person, I'm over him, what else is out there? O he didnt leave and led us to the tourney again? I LOVE FRANK!
OMG is frank going to leave us for South Carolina? crap He's going to leave, eff him, he never liked us anyways, such an bad person, I'm over him, what else is out there? O he didnt leave and led us to the tourney again? I LOVE FRANK!
THIS TIME I MEAN IT!! :curse:
unless he comes back. :pray:
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Oregon/DePaul: Worry level 2
Miami: Worry level 9
South Carolina: Worry level 4
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Frank had no for time North Carolina State last year but South Carolina interests him?
Not worried. Much better jobs will come his way soon.
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Oregon/DePaul: Worry level 2
Miami: Worry level 9
South Carolina: Worry level 4
Depaul was the only one that even considered him. Let him prance around in front of the pretty girls and even the mediocre girls. They won't touch him.
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Much better jobs will come his way soon.
lol :flush:
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Oregon/DePaul: Worry level 2
Miami: Worry level 9
South Carolina: Worry level 4
Illinois: Worry level 10
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does anyone know if pearl recruits players who can make basketball shots
tucks would hate the players he recruits, but oh man
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can they make basketball shots like crazy
Look how long and beautiful they are. We could still call ourselves the dobermans!
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Oregon/DePaul: Worry level 2
Miami: Worry level 9
South Carolina: Worry level 4
Illinois: Worry level 10
Illinois isn't interested
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Oregon/DePaul: Worry level 2
Miami: Worry level 9
South Carolina: Worry level 4
0
10
0. 9.5 (after talking to Wabash)
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Maybe Frank can go teach math somewhere. God knows nobody else is going to let his basketball circus come to town.
Yeah, I always thought Frank would be here a long time because:
A) He built himself a situation that is better than about two thirds of BCS jobs
B) He won't ever be considered for a job in the top third for a variety of reasons.
But I never considered him whoring himself out for a bottom third job and being mushed. So I guess I have more reasons he will never leave.
:lol:
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Oregon/DePaul: Worry level 2
Miami: Worry level 9
South Carolina: Worry level 4
Illinois: Worry level 10
Honestly, I don't think a Big Ten school will hire Frank. They are too image conscious.
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Oregon/DePaul: Worry level 2
Miami: Worry level 9
South Carolina: Worry level 4
Illinois: Worry level 10
Honestly, I don't think a Big Ten school will hire Frank. They are too image conscious.
cough-BobKnight-cough
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cough-BobKnight-cough
The image of Knight's program was squeeky clean, he just had a massive ego and let it get out of control.
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Bob Knight was also one of the most succesful coaches in NCAA before his act got out of hand. If Frank wins a few NCs here and wins like 900 games, you really think we'd give a eff if he kicked his son or threw a ref out a window?
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Oregon/DePaul: Worry level 2
Miami: Worry level 9
South Carolina: Worry level 4
Illinois: Worry level 10
Honestly, I don't think a Big Ten school will hire Frank. They are too image conscious.
Pretty sure I saw Tom Izzo very clearly and explicitly yell "What the eff?" at an official on national TV last night.
Pretty sure I saw Badger Bo make outrageous faces up and down the court all night on national TV last night.
Pretty sure I saw Thad Ugly Matta look extraordinarily ugly up and down the court all night on national TV last night.
What kind of image are they too conscious of? :dunno:
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cough-BobKnight-cough
The image of Knight's program was squeeky clean, he just had a massive ego and let it get out of control.
The Big Ten learned from the Knight/Sampson combo at Indiana, and they all hired some variation of Tubby Smith.
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Bob Knight was also one of the most succesful coaches in NCAA before his act got out of hand. If Frank wins a few NCs here and wins like 900 games, you really think we'd give a eff if he kicked his son or threw a ref out a window?
I wouldn't care if he did that now.
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Oregon/DePaul: Worry level 2
Miami: Worry level 9
South Carolina: Worry level 4
Illinois: Worry level 10
Honestly, I don't think a Big Ten school will hire Frank. They are too image conscious.
Pretty sure I saw Tom Izzo very clearly and explicitly yell "What the eff?" at an official on national TV last night.
Pretty sure I saw Badger Bo make outrageous faces up and down the court all night on national TV last night.
Pretty sure I saw Thad Ugly Matta look extraordinarily ugly up and down the court all night on national TV last night.
What kind of image are they too conscious of? :dunno:
Frank is known for his anger. Those other guys aren't. They are probably just as angry, but Frank's reputation is that he's a different flavor of Bob Knight.
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Who gives a crap about Bob Knight. Let's focus on mocking Frank and daydreaming about boating with BSAC and oscar.
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0. 9.5 (after talking to Wabash)
:lol:
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Who gives a crap about Bob Knight. Let's focus on mocking Frank and daydreaming about boating with BSAC and oscar.
Is there any way oscar can hire Eustachy as an assistant? My god, just imagine the ragers those 2 could sling together. JUST IMAGINE!
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Who gives a crap about Bob Knight. Let's focus on mocking Frank and daydreaming about boating with BSAC and oscar.
I could see oscar having a totally sweet BBQ at his new Manhattan place. Everybody would be there boozing it up by his pool. Nobody taking pictures/talking about the high profile recruits hanging around.
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So what are our official Frank seasons? We have:
-Franuary where he sucks ass all over the court
-Frankruary where he dominates on the court and we all party
-Frarch where he exactly meet expectations
-Frapril where he's a whiny bitch and everyone used to freak out but now we're, like, get over it Frank you rough ridin' idiot. Nobody wants to hire you anyway. You are stuck with us and vice versa. Go sign some decent recruits and quit running off our mediocre players. Or just hit the road. Nobody really gives a eff anymore. It's basically football season anyway and we have bigger fish to fry.
Is the first season Frankember where we play horrible games with mid majors(that we win), an important part of the BIOQ process?
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cough-BobKnight-cough
The image of Knight's program was squeeky clean, he just had a massive ego and let it get out of control.
That and Knight was hired by a Big 10 school 41 freaking years ago. LOL at Blackcats using that as an example.
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what would tucks say about him being president/ceo of the jewish coaches association?
http://jewishcoaches.com/index.php/membership/
Oh, Chodo, you know. You know.
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Oregon/DePaul: Worry level 2
Miami: Worry level 9
South Carolina: Worry level 4
Illinois: Worry level 10
Brad Stevens.
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what would tucks say about him being president/ceo of the jewish coaches association?
http://jewishcoaches.com/index.php/membership/
Oh, Chodo, you know. You know.
:sdeek:
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what would tucks say about him being president/ceo of the jewish coaches association?
http://jewishcoaches.com/index.php/membership/
Oh, Chodo, you know. You know.
:sdeek:
:horrorsurprise:
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cough-BobKnight-cough
The image of Knight's program was squeeky clean, he just had a massive ego and let it get out of control.
That and Knight was hired by a Big 10 school 41 freaking years ago. LOL at Blackcats using that as an example.
Both are known for anger. IU got rid of Knight for the same reason Ill wouldn't hire Frank.
/rough ridin' mental midgets
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cough-BobKnight-cough
The image of Knight's program was squeeky clean, he just had a massive ego and let it get out of control.
That and Knight was hired by a Big 10 school 41 freaking years ago. LOL at Blackcats using that as an example.
Both are known for anger. IU got rid of Knight for the same reason Ill wouldn't hire Frank.
/rough ridin' mental midgets
Frank hasn't choked anyone. Knight was known for actually being the monster off the court as well. Frank isn't.
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cough-BobKnight-cough
The image of Knight's program was squeeky clean, he just had a massive ego and let it get out of control.
That and Knight was hired by a Big 10 school 41 freaking years ago. LOL at Blackcats using that as an example.
Both are known for anger. IU got rid of Knight for the same reason Ill wouldn't hire Frank.
/rough ridin' mental midgets
Frank hasn't choked anyone. Knight was known for actually being the monster off the court as well. Frank isn't.
He did slap a kid. Granted it was only a regional broadcast...but they only had home video for Knight...except for the chair incident..
:dunno:
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what would tucks say about him being president/ceo of the jewish coaches association?
http://jewishcoaches.com/index.php/membership/
Oh, Chodo, you know. You know.
:sdeek:
:horrorsurprise:
:shakesfist:
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cough-BobKnight-cough
The image of Knight's program was squeeky clean, he just had a massive ego and let it get out of control.
That and Knight was hired by a Big 10 school 41 freaking years ago. LOL at Blackcats using that as an example.
Both are known for anger. IU got rid of Knight for the same reason Ill wouldn't hire Frank.
/rough ridin' mental midgets
Bob Knight tried to beat a student up, not a student-athlete but a student. Also that was 12 years ago. 12! I don't know anything about you as a person but I've gleaned from your last two posts that I'm significantly smarter than you. Don't respond, its a trap.
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cough-BobKnight-cough
The image of Knight's program was squeeky clean, he just had a massive ego and let it get out of control.
That and Knight was hired by a Big 10 school 41 freaking years ago. LOL at Blackcats using that as an example.
Both are known for anger. IU got rid of Knight for the same reason Ill wouldn't hire Frank.
/rough ridin' mental midgets
Frank hasn't choked anyone. Knight was known for actually being the monster off the court as well. Frank isn't.
He did slap a kid. Granted it was only a regional broadcast...but they only had home video for Knight...except for the chair incident..
:dunno:
There were reports of Knight assaulting kids, not players, but kids. The last one was when the kid addressed him as "Hey Knight" rather than "coach" or "Sir", which I guess was a pet peeve of his.
Frank poked a player in the chest. Knight full on punched a player in practice and two handed choked another, iirc.
Comparing the two's demeanor is very superficial at best. Frank's seems to be a character he plays. Knight's seemed to be just who he was.
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So, I'm confused, we've got one faction that's totally saying he will leave and one saying he's going to stay because no one will hire him.
I'm just going to go monitor the Will Spradling thread
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So, I'm confused, we've got one faction that's totally saying he will leave and one saying he's going to stay because no one will hire him.
I'm just going to go monitor the Will Spradling thread
I think both factions agree that Frank will leave if he can find somebody who wants him, though.
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So, I'm confused, we've got one faction that's totally saying he will leave and one saying he's going to stay because no one will hire him.
I'm just going to go monitor the Will Spradling thread
if you're monitoring one thread you are basically monitoring both
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I want Frank to stay and think he's a good coach.
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I want Frank to stay and think he's a good coach.
Well, lucky for you he has not other options.
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I want Frank to stay and think he's a good coach.
Well, lucky for you he has not other options.
I think you're lying, not only to me, but yourself. And lying to yourself is the pathway to despair.
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So, I'm confused, we've got one faction that's totally saying he will leave and one saying he's going to stay because no one will hire him.
I'm just going to go monitor the Will Spradling thread
I think both factions agree that Frank will leave if he can find somebody who wants him, though.
Well, if he really has interest in South Carolina, yes, there ain't no mountain high enough, and ain't no valley low enough to keep him from getting away from Currie.
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Oh Frank wants out, don't get me wrong. But so does everyone who is currently working at McDonalds. Tough crap Frank and McDonalds employees.
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So, I'm confused, we've got one faction that's totally saying he will leave and one saying he's going to stay because no one will hire him.
I'm just going to go monitor the Will Spradling thread
I think both factions agree that Frank will leave if he can find somebody who wants him, though.
Meh.
I think this is overplayed. I think it's clear Frank likes attention and getting his name out there. He and Katz are willing to do a lot to get negotiating leverage. IMHO the timing of all this (before April 1st, during the Sweet 16/Elite 8) accomplishes both. I'm not doubting the Currie stuff, but I can't believe anger with Currie is his ONLY angle. He is going to set up things better for himself, whether he's at K-State or not. Frank and Katz are too smart to make this just about Currie. Many K-State fans might think he's being overly shrewd, but none of what is going on is haphazard or not well thought out. Frank will be better off for himself (or at least he will think he is) whether he's at K-State next year or not.
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do you guys think frank set up the jamar thing to force currie's hand and then feign anger in order to get extra leverage for his contract renegotiation? I think chances are about 90%.
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do you guys think frank set up the jamar thing to force currie's hand and then feign anger in order to get extra leverage for his contract renegotiation? I think chances are about 90%.
That would be impressive.
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do you guys think frank set up the jamar thing to force currie's hand and then feign anger in order to get extra leverage for his contract renegotiation? I think chances are about 90%.
My God.
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Still think it would have been way cooler if Jamar was just chillin on the bench, Billy style. :bwpopcorn:
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Also, is it possible that Frank's "whoring himself out" every year is almostly entirely created in the minds of goEMAW'rs? I mean, there's only a tiny amount of smoke but dax and co are dead set on it being a bonfire.
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Also, is it possible that Frank's "whoring himself out" every year is almostly entirely created in the minds of goEMAW'rs? I mean, there's only a tiny amount of smoke but dax and co are dead set on it being a bonfire.
no, there is much more than smoke...
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Saw this posted on another site.
Just was on TheBigSpur.com and some guy posted that someone from USC confirmed that Frank Martin was in SC this week for an interview and that the AD offered Martin the job. They went on to say that Martin has accepted and it will be announced on Monday or Tuesday.
This was the first time I have been on that site, so I have no idea if it is a somewhat reputable site, or if it is like goEMAW.com. I really hope that FM doesn't think USC is seriously even a halfway decent job. Personally, if he takes the job, I think he would be taking multiple steps down, and I think it would show that Martin really isn't a man of as much character as we originally thought.
Obviously, my views are based solely on Martin accepting the job. I really hope this is not the case though.
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Saw this posted on another site.
Just was on TheBigSpur.com and some guy posted that someone from USC confirmed that Frank Martin was in SC this week for an interview and that the AD offered Martin the job. They went on to say that Martin has accepted and it will be announced on Monday or Tuesday.
This was the first time I have been on that site, so I have no idea if it is a somewhat reputable site, or if it is like goEMAW.com. I really hope that FM doesn't think USC is seriously even a halfway decent job. Personally, if he takes the job, I think he would be taking multiple steps down, and I think it would show that Martin really isn't a man of as much character as we originally thought.
Obviously, my views are based solely on Martin accepting the job. I really hope this is not the case though.
what in the
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press conference on Monday!
:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
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Saw this posted on another site.
Just was on TheBigSpur.com and some guy posted that someone from USC confirmed that Frank Martin was in SC this week for an interview and that the AD offered Martin the job. They went on to say that Martin has accepted and it will be announced on Monday or Tuesday.
This was the first time I have been on that site, so I have no idea if it is a somewhat reputable site, or if it is like goEMAW.com. I really hope that FM doesn't think USC is seriously even a halfway decent job. Personally, if he takes the job, I think he would be taking multiple steps down, and I think it would show that Martin really isn't a man of as much character as we originally thought.
Obviously, my views are based solely on Martin accepting the job. I really hope this is not the case though.
what in the
eff him, ban him, =Mods=?
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Saw this posted on another site.
Just was on TheBigSpur.com and some guy posted that someone from USC confirmed that Frank Martin was in SC this week for an interview and that the AD offered Martin the job. They went on to say that Martin has accepted and it will be announced on Monday or Tuesday.
This was the first time I have been on that site, so I have no idea if it is a somewhat reputable site, or if it is like goEMAW.com. I really hope that FM doesn't think USC is seriously even a halfway decent job. Personally, if he takes the job, I think he would be taking multiple steps down, and I think it would show that Martin really isn't a man of as much character as we originally thought.
Obviously, my views are based solely on Martin accepting the job. I really hope this is not the case though.
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Tbaird can suck a dick
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dudes, I have lived in SC, and believe me, that is the most :opcat: bunch of bubba's I've ever seen..I remember a bar there called the Kountry Klub Konnection ....They don't like interracial marriages, Cubans, or anything that isn't white as grits...that place would make Lowrents seem like Disney World, and Masa Self more like Santa!
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Saw this posted on another site.
Just was on TheBigSpur.com and some guy posted that someone from USC confirmed that Frank Martin was in SC this week for an interview and that the AD offered Martin the job. They went on to say that Martin has accepted and it will be announced on Monday or Tuesday.
This was the first time I have been on that site, so I have no idea if it is a somewhat reputable site, or if it is like goEMAW.com. I really hope that FM doesn't think USC is seriously even a halfway decent job. Personally, if he takes the job, I think he would be taking multiple steps down, and I think it would show that Martin really isn't a man of as much character as we originally thought.
Obviously, my views are based solely on Martin accepting the job. I really hope this is not the case though.
If this is the case news will pick up quickly via twitter in the next few days.
I will be very disappointed in both Currie AND Frank if he leaves for South Carolina basketball.
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Saw this posted on another site.
Just was on TheBigSpur.com and some guy posted that someone from USC confirmed that Frank Martin was in SC this week for an interview and that the AD offered Martin the job. They went on to say that Martin has accepted and it will be announced on Monday or Tuesday.
This was the first time I have been on that site, so I have no idea if it is a somewhat reputable site, or if it is like goEMAW.com. I really hope that FM doesn't think USC is seriously even a halfway decent job. Personally, if he takes the job, I think he would be taking multiple steps down, and I think it would show that Martin really isn't a man of as much character as we originally thought.
Obviously, my views are based solely on Martin accepting the job. I really hope this is not the case though.
If this is the case news will pick up quickly via twitter in the next few days.
I will be very disappointed in both Currie AND Frank if he leaves for South Carolina basketball.
I don't know how I'll go to work.
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welp, rusty and pissclams got what they wanted. grats I guess.
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Frank told Goodman not till Monday.
Jeff Goodman ? @GoodmanCBS Close
To the news outlet reporting that Frank Martin newser tomorrow in south carolina, it'll be tough since he is working for CBS tomorrow.
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KSN NEWS just reported it...press conference tomorrow
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Kstate basketball :flush:
Frank's career :flush:
Me :bang: :bawl: :drink: :barf:
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Frank was not in South Carolina this week. He was recruiting. And if he had interviewed him it would've been at a neutral site, not in Columbia. He's not having a presses tomorrow as he'll be on CBS.
#notworried
#retardedsoutherners
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Pearl can't coach for another year, right? What do we do until then? WHAT DO WE DO UNTIL THEN!?!?! :runaway:
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I'll just laugh at the absurdity of it all. I mean, come on. It would be so K-State. What else are you going to do? If this sort of thing really clinically depressed you and you've been a K-State fan for long, then you would have :goodbyecruelworld: long, long ago.
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May as well hoist the white flag above the OOD. The sky is falling in Manhattan.
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coaching search bbs'ing :love:
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http://www.ksn.com/news/local/story/Frank-Martin-to-leave-K-State-for-USC/9c-OC_DrYUGRTWPfx8lq9A.cspx
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eff both Frank and John...both can eat sheet and die of aids..
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Is it safe to say that if Frank leaves this has to be put solely at the feet of Currie. Sorry if a repost - figured this board would be all over it.
A tragic, terrible day if its true. Frank is a golden calf for the BigXII. God I hate the SEC.
That is all.
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the tweet referenced in the KSN report has been deleted. FWIW.
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eff both Frank and John...both can eat sheet and die of aids..
yeah i'll be mad at Curry but eff frank martin more if true, what a sell-out. just bc he's a little upset at john... get real frank.... This University gave you the chance and made you who you are. eff!
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Currie won't be blamed for this.
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Guess John boy will get his big moment in the spotlight.....He is going to eff this up, Welcome home Wooley or skankabitch! :bang:
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I swear we just got off the "looking for a head coach" boat last week. Damn I hate this boat.
Can someone else name off other programs that are our fellow passengers, aside from Illinois?
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welp.
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John's going to tick the next box on the resume: Job hire.
Unfortunately for us, John is going to hire a horrible rough ridin' coach.
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Currie won't be blamed for this.
I will blame both Frank and Currie.
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From what I've gathered working the phones, anyone saying Frank Martin to South Carolina is a done deal is really jumping the gun.
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I'll blame Frank for being a whiny b*tch
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From what I've gathered working the phones, anyone saying Frank Martin to South Carolina is a done deal is really jumping the gun.
I don't like the tone of this post.
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people are seriously worried about south carolina? good grief people.
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Hey, remember that time there was a Tweet about Frank Martin going to South Carolina, a bunch of press ran with it and it disappeared?
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Well, maybe we're about to know how TCU fans felt... :dunno:
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Working the phones!
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You never know what you had until it's gone.......kind of.
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RIP
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They are getting Patterson'd.
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Well, maybe we're about to know how TCU fans felt... :dunno:
Would love to feel like TCU fans felt.
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Currie won't be blamed for this.
The hell you say
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IT'S MARTIN!!!
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They are getting Patterson'd.
would LOVE to see that happen.
but this is so us. It's KSU sports and bad things happen....
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Katz is a master.
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:drink:
From what I've gathered working the phones, anyone saying Frank Martin to South Carolina is a done deal is really jumping the gun.
Kellis is probably master mind behind this whole rough ridin' abortion!
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:drink:From what I've gathered working the phones, anyone saying Frank Martin to South Carolina is a done deal is really jumping the gun.
Kellis is probably master mind behind this whole rough ridin' abortion!
Kellis couldn't master mind making a taco bell run
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This is all so very depressing, no matter how it turns out.
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Frank's agent, Richard Katz, says Frank HAS NOT accepted the a job at South Carolina.
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What's funny is Frank has turned down better jobs than South Carolina.
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This is all so very depressing, no matter how it turns out.
That was reply #666 on this thread :runaway:
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oooh wow so relieved!
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I'm glad I was on the board for those 10 minutes.
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I don't believe anything Katz says at this stage, for what it's worth.
That's actually a very vague statement that says nothing at all really.
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this feels like painter to mizzou, dont buy it.
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What's funny is Frank has turned down better jobs than South Carolina.
yup
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Ok, now he's gone.
If they are going to interview, he's already accepted.
eff you, Frank. You ungrateful mother rough rider.
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Unsubstantiated rumor from a 3rd or 4th party 'source' (sorry if it is old, I'm in Vegas & not in the loop)...Spradling, Southwell, Nino & Angel will be transferring if Frank IS the KSU coach next year.
All make sense w/ the exception of Angel, I assumed he & Frank were tied @ the hip.
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Unsubstantiated rumor from a 3rd or 4th party 'source' (sorry if it is old, I'm in Vegas & not in the loop)...Spradling, Southwell, Nino & Angel will be transferring if Frank IS the KSU coach next year.
All make sense w/ the exception of Angel, I assumed he & Frank were tied @ the hip.
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RE: Frank Martin to SC. Frank just texted me, "I'm watching Jersey Boys with my wife... I have not talked to anyone."
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So, if we hire Pearl, do we face sanctions for a year, or is there something more severe than that?
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RE: Frank Martin to SC. Frank just texted me, "I'm watching Jersey Boys with my wife... I have not talked to anyone."
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That's what Katz is for
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Unsubstantiated rumor from a 3rd or 4th party 'source' (sorry if it is old, I'm in Vegas & not in the loop)...Spradling, Southwell, Nino & Angel will be transferring if Frank IS the KSU coach next year.
All make sense w/ the exception of Angel, I assumed he & Frank were tied @ the hip.
actually that would probably justify a raise with exception of angel...
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So, if we hire Pearl, do we face sanctions for a year, or is there something more severe than that?
I think he's banned from coaching for another two years. But it can be appealed somehow
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Being a ksu fan is hard.
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Being a ksu fan is hard.
It's so damn Stressful!!!
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Being a ksu fan is hard.
I think it's pretty good overall. Our fans like to feel inferior for some stupid reason, though.
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Burn it.
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So, if we hire Pearl, do we face sanctions for a year, or is there something more severe than that?
I think he's banned from coaching for another two years. But it can be appealed somehow
A school could hire him, but they would have to go before the NCAA infractions committee and potentially face sanctions. I'm just not sure what those sanctions would be or how long they would last. Still I'd rather just take Pearl and whatever sanctions come with him than whatever schmo Currie would likely hire instead.
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Guys, we aren't going to hire Pearl if Frank leaves, but it is a fun thought.
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dax's dream of jank coaching the cats just might come true!
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Guys, we aren't going to hire Pearl if Frank leaves, but it is a fun thought.
What crappy midmajor up-n-comer will we land?
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Guys, we aren't going to hire Pearl if Frank leaves, but it is a fun thought.
What crappy midmajor up-n-comer will we land?
oscar weber.
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Guys, we aren't going to hire Pearl if Frank leaves, but it is a fun thought.
What crappy midmajor up-n-comer will we land?
Chris Lowery.
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Guys, we aren't going to hire Pearl if Frank leaves, but it is a fun thought.
Yes we are
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RE: Frank Martin to SC. Frank just texted me, "I'm watching Jersey Boys with my wife... I have not talked to anyone."
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That's what Katz is for
Don't you guys hate how we have to deal with Frank watching Jersey Boys EVERY offseason!!!
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Guys, we aren't going to hire Pearl if Frank leaves, but it is a fun thought.
What crappy midmajor up-n-comer will we land?
Stan Heath?
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Guys, we aren't going to hire Pearl if Frank leaves, but it is a fun thought.
Yes we are
Lightning strikes twice!
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SOUTH CAROLINA?!
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Guys, we aren't going to hire Pearl if Frank leaves, but it is a fun thought.
What crappy midmajor up-n-comer will we land?
Gregg Marshall?
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i almost positive they will have to have k-state ties so narrow down your fields people.
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dax's dream of jank coaching the cats just might come true!
DO NOT WANT THAT DIRTBAG DOUCHE HOLE...NOTHING EMAW ABOUT HIM!
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Guys, we aren't going to hire Pearl if Frank leaves, but it is a fun thought.
What crappy midmajor up-n-comer will we land?
Gregg Marshall?
Of course we could do the awesome thing & hire Doc Sadler
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Guys, we aren't going to hire Pearl if Frank leaves, but it is a fun thought.
What crappy midmajor up-n-comer will we land?
Gregg Marshall?
One of only 3 legit "mid-major" coaches out there. Brad Stevens and Shaka are the other two. Frankly, no pun intended, Gregg Marshall would be a fantastic hire.
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So, here's what's happening.
An offer has been extended via third party to Katz. It's been accepted in principle.
Frank and his agent are covering themselves and saying they haven't talked to anyone.
The South Carolina AD will now formally ask for permission now to follow procedural protocol.
We will give permission. He will technically interview. He's gone.
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CURRIE STARTS TO WORRY!
Source: K-State AD begs Martin to stay, saying 'If you
leave, the sharks will circle — and I can't swim!'
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currie will come out of this golden, his propaganda people have been doing amazing work
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So, here's what's happening.
An offer has been extended via third party to Katz. It's been accepted in principle.
Frank and his agent are covering themselves and saying they haven't talked to anyone.
The South Carolina AD will now formally ask for permission now to follow procedural protocol.
We will give permission. He will technically interview. He's gone.
Why do they need to cover themselves by saying they haven't talked to anyone?
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We should be like Auburn and just not have a basketball team.
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So, here's what's happening.
An offer has been extended via third party to Katz. It's been accepted in principle.
Frank and his agent are covering themselves and saying they haven't talked to anyone.
The South Carolina AD will now formally ask for permission now to follow procedural protocol.
We will give permission. He will technically interview. He's gone.
If Frank was predictable, yeah...
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So, here's what's happening.
An offer has been extended via third party to Katz. It's been accepted in principle.
Frank and his agent are covering themselves and saying they haven't talked to anyone.
The South Carolina AD will now formally ask for permission now to follow procedural protocol.
We will give permission. He will technically interview. He's gone.
Why do they need to cover themselves by saying they haven't talked to anyone?
If the deal falls apart, they will have burnt their bridges back to K-State.
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Very confident Underwood would be the one replacing frank.
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Frank..Your family will need a body gaurd just to shop at the Piggley Wiggley...you have NO clue!
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Frank..Your family will need a body gaurd just to shop at the Piggley Wiggley...you have know clue!
know he definitely doesn't.
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Very confident Underwood would be the one replacing frank.
I'd more confident it would be Jank over Undy if we're talking former K-Staters. I'm doubtful Currie would hire from this staff.
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I don't think Currie will hire a former K-Stater. There just aren't any good options out there.
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Frank..Your family will need a body gaurd just to shop at the Piggley Wiggley...you have know clue!
know he definitely doesn't.
Shut up jrake. What do you no?
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Frank..Your family will need a body gaurd just to shop at the Piggley Wiggley...you have know clue!
know he definitely doesn't.
Shut up jrake. What do you no?
knot much, that is for sure.
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Very confident Underwood would be the one replacing frank.
+1
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So, here's what's happening.
An offer has been extended via third party to Katz. It's been accepted in principle.
Frank and his agent are covering themselves and saying they haven't talked to anyone.
The South Carolina AD will now formally ask for permission now to follow procedural protocol.
We will give permission. He will technically interview. He's gone.
Why do they need to cover themselves by saying they haven't talked to anyone?
So they don't get sued by K-State for tortious interference because they damaged a contracural relationship.
This is just now about following the procedural steps.
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would be hilarious if frank bombed the interview that was just a formality. If anyone can pull something off like that, it's Frank.
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Frank Martin coach watch, Vegas style (keep in mind, i'd be thrilled to see him leave):
Will he leave for a new job this offseason?
Yes +375
No -500
Will he leave for South Carolina?
Yes +750
No -1000
just my opinion :sdeek:
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Very confident Underwood would be the one replacing frank.
I'd more confident it would be Jank over Undy if we're talking former K-Staters. I'm doubtful Currie would hire from this staff.
We have a full team returning with a lot of potential. We'll see guys like angel transfer and Upshaw decommit if they don't keep someone in house (underwood). Everyone knows Undy made the offensive change last year to give us a chance to make the tournament.
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Very confident Underwood would be the one replacing frank.
I'd more confident it would be Jank over Undy if we're talking former K-Staters. I'm doubtful Currie would hire from this staff.
We have a full team returning with a lot of potential. We'll see guys like angel transfer and Joshua's decommit if they don't keep someone in house (underwood). Everyone knows Undy made the offensive change last year to give us a chance to make the tournament.
I don't see anyone important staying for Underwood.
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this was literally my fortune tonight
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Very confident Underwood would be the one replacing frank.
Seriously Underwood does not sound like a legit basketball name. More like a brand name for boxers or briefs but not basketball. Uncle Brad would be a good coach for K-State but would have to change the name. Coach Underwood?
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eff both Frank and John...both can eat sheet and die of aids..
yeah i'll be mad at Curry but eff frank martin more if true, what a sell-out. just bc he's a little upset at john... get real frank.... This University gave you the chance and made you who you are. eff!
People. Please stop using the "we made you what you are talking point.".
1. It's not true.
2. It makes you sound small timey and dumb at the same time.
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Where is Fanning during all of this. it's scoop time!
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Frank..Your family will need a body gaurd just to shop at the Piggley Wiggley...you have NO clue!
I wonder if South Carolina knows that Franks wife is african american with a bigger mouth than his? I know the fans probably don't. Could be dangerous indeed.
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Frank..Your family will need a body gaurd just to shop at the Piggley Wiggley...you have NO clue!
I wonder if South Carolina knows that Franks wife is african american with a bigger mouth than his? I know the fans probably don't. Could be dangerous indeed.
Good ones you guys. Keep it up.
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Frank..Your family will need a body gaurd just to shop at the Piggley Wiggley...you have NO clue!
I wonder if South Carolina knows that Franks wife is african american with a bigger mouth than his? I know the fans probably don't. Could be dangerous indeed.
Good ones you guys. Keep it up.
Frank probably doesn't even know that
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If he wasn't leaving, he could simply "remove his name from consideration". Currie isn't giving him a raise, we all know that so he isn't playing south Carolina state against us.
Currie better have a Frank Haith up his sleeve or the fanbase will turn on him so fast it will make his nose bleed.
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If he wasn't leaving, he could simply "remove his name from consideration". Currie isn't giving him a raise, we all know that so he isn't playing south Carolina state against us.
Currie better have a Frank Haith up his sleeve or the fanbase will turn on him so fast it will make his nose bleed.
I have turned :chainsaw:
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:drool: gtfo frank
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If he wasn't leaving, he could simply "remove his name from consideration". Currie isn't giving him a raise, we all know that so he isn't playing south Carolina state against us.
Currie better have a Frank Haith up his sleeve or the fanbase will turn on him so fast it will make his nose bleed.
Yes, we love his fiscal responsibility, but fiscal responsibility minus wins = nose bleeds.
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Guys, we aren't going to hire Pearl if Frank leaves, but it is a fun thought.
What crappy midmajor up-n-comer will we land?
Gregg Marshall?
One of only 3 legit "mid-major" coaches out there. Brad Stevens and Shaka are the other two. Frankly, no pun intended, Gregg Marshall would be a fantastic hire.
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Guys, we aren't going to hire Pearl if Frank leaves, but it is a fun thought.
What crappy midmajor up-n-comer will we land?
Gregg Marshall?
One of only 3 legit "mid-major" coaches out there. Brad Stevens and Shaka are the other two. Frankly, no pun intended, Gregg Marshall would be a fantastic hire.
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If they did hire Marshall living in this town would be epic. The butthurt by the WSU fans would make Beems blush.
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marshall demands more from the job in the area where he spent 9+ years than our coach does. LMAO
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The contract requires K-State to pay Martin the lesser of $4 million or his remaining base salary if he is dismissed without cause over the lifetime of the contract.
Martin would owe Kansas State $2 million if he leaves his position following this season. This amount thereafter decreases to $1 million through April 15, 2012, $750,000 through May 14, 2013 and $500,000 through May 14, 2014.
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Marshall is not going to come to kstate.
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Guys, we aren't going to hire Pearl if Frank leaves, but it is a fun thought.
What crappy midmajor up-n-comer will we land?
Gregg Marshall?
One of only 3 legit "mid-major" coaches out there. Brad Stevens and Shaka are the other two. Frankly, no pun intended, Gregg Marshall would be a fantastic hire.
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If they did hire Marshall living in this town would be epic. The butthurt by the WSU fans and MakeItRain would make Beems blush.
FYP, don't want that MFer anywhere near KSU, thankfully it won't be an issue
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Frank Martin is trying to get a deal finalized to become South Carolina's next basketball coach, but the deal is not complete as of Friday night, a source close to Martin told GamecockCentral.com on Friday evening.
"I would say it's about 90 percent done," the source said, after GamecockCentral.com first reported on Friday that Martin had interviewed for the job on Monday. "But as for being a done deal, no, it's not."
The source said that Martin was trying to get the deal complete by Friday night because he is due in New York on Saturday. Martin will help with TV analysis of the NCAA tournament on Saturday and Sunday.
Martin has expressed heavy interest in replacing fired coach Darrin Horn, after five winning seasons at Kansas State. The Wildcats exited the NCAA tournament after winning their first-round game.
Athletic director Eric Hyman was not available for comment and previously said that he will not discuss the search until it's over. A USC spokesperson said that no press conference has been announced for the weekend or afterward.
Hyman was at Friday's baseball game. He did not comment on the search. He will attend USC's women's basketball game on Saturday in Fresno, Calif.
The Sporting News reported that USC has requested permission with Kansas State to speak to Martin. Kansas State athletic director John Currie nor Martin's agent, Richard Katz, have replied to repeated phone calls since Monday from GamecockCentral.com requesting the same information.
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Lol, hyman.
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latest was the letter that implied the NCAA had suspended Jamar when it was actually Currie who did so and then then they asked the NCAA to reinstate him[/b]. I will update as I hear more.
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And the Frank Martin hits the fan while my phone is off. I have a call out to him but he texted to say he's watching Jersey Boys on Broadway. Nothing is done but we've now had multiple people tell us that his relationship with Currieis fractured beyond belief and the latest was the letter that implied the NCAA had suspended Jamar when it was actually Currie who did so and then then they asked the NCAA to reinstate him. I will update as I hear more.
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And the Frank Martin hits the fan while my phone is off. I have a call out to him but he texted to say he's watching Jersey Boys on Broadway. Nothing is done but we've now had multiple people tell us that his relationship with Currieis fractured beyond belief and the [b)
1. Explains Fitz being #teamfrank
2. If true :nono: cc
3. If true this tarnishes The Animal as well
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looks like frank is a goner, damn
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latest was the letter that implied the NCAA had suspended Jamar when it was actually Currie who did so and then then they asked the NCAA to reinstate him[/b]. I will update as I hear more.
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And the Frank Martin hits the fan while my phone is off. I have a call out to him but he texted to say he's watching Jersey Boys on Broadway. Nothing is done but we've now had multiple people tell us that his relationship with Currieis fractured beyond belief and the [b)
1. Explains Fitz being #teamfrank
2. If true :nono: cc
3. If true this tarnishes The Animal as well
If Currie lied like that Frank could have probably had him fired.
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Marshall is not going to come to kstate.
Sure he would. We've become a stepping stone to truly elite jobs, South carolina, West Virginia, UC Riverside.
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latest was the letter that implied the NCAA had suspended Jamar when it was actually Currie who did so and then then they asked the NCAA to reinstate him[/b]. I will update as I hear more.
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And the Frank Martin hits the fan while my phone is off. I have a call out to him but he texted to say he's watching Jersey Boys on Broadway. Nothing is done but we've now had multiple people tell us that his relationship with Currieis fractured beyond belief and the latest was the letter that implied the NCAA had suspended Jamar when it was actually Currie who did so and then then they asked the NCAA to reinstate him. I will update as I hear more.
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And the Frank Martin hits the fan while my phone is off. I have a call out to him but he texted to say he's watching Jersey Boys on Broadway. Nothing is done but we've now had multiple people tell us that his relationship with Currieis fractured beyond belief and the [b)
1. Explains Fitz being #teamfrank
2. If true :nono: cc
3. If true this tarnishes The Animal as well
If Currie lied like that Frank could have probably had him fired.
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My god...THAT'S DOUG DAVALOS' MUSIC!
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If he wasn't leaving, he could simply "remove his name from consideration". Currie isn't giving him a raise, we all know that so he isn't playing south Carolina state against us.
Currie better have a Frank Haith up his sleeve or the fanbase will turn on him so fast it will make his nose bleed.
Yes, we love his fiscal responsibility, but fiscal responsibility minus wins = nose bleeds.
I'm pretty sure its University of South Carolina rather than South Carolina St
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Can't wait for the AD propaganda on here next week.
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Can't wait for the AD propaganda on here next week.
:flush:
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It did sound in the letter like the NCAA suspended Jamar...if that's not true, i have a real problem with ADJC. I've been a big supporter, but that would piss me off as well if I was Frank.
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Can't wait for the AD propaganda on here next week.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. :ksu:
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Grats guys
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If the letter thing happened, then Frank has gotta leave. That said, seems likely that Currie pulled the one thing that he knew would force frank's hand.
Pearl is going to look amazing in Purple.
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Can't wait for the AD propaganda on here next week.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. :ksu:
Sending CC over to clean up his mess with spin control.
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i really want to stay positive and have a hard time believing Frank would leave for SC...what a crap program. But I can just see him all red assed about the Jamar deal, sitting at home "watching tv" knowing full well it's a done deal, he's totally in control, holding the big, fat, double dildo he's fixin to shove up Curries ass.
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We are rough ridin' small time.
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If the letter thing happened, then Frank has gotta leave. That said, seems likely that Currie pulled the one thing that he knew would force frank's hand.
Pearl is going to look amazing in Purple.
letter?
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Frank is seriously going to South Carolina over semantics in a letter to a fanbase? Seriously?
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No apparently currie is forcing him out because he doesn't want southwell to transfer or some crap
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If the letter thing happened, then Frank has gotta leave. That said, seems likely that Currie pulled the one thing that he knew would force frank's hand.
Pearl is going to look amazing in Purple.
letter?
The Fitz post.
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People need to understand. If we get rid of Currie, there will be a major tuck push to make LHC Bill Snyder the next AD. Think about it.
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:sdeek:
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Frank is leaving his wife for the 5/10 one night stand at the bar.
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If the letter thing happened, then Frank has gotta leave. That said, seems likely that Currie pulled the one thing that he knew would force frank's hand.
Pearl is going to look amazing in Purple.
letter?
The Fitz post.
can't read it from phone. do you copy/paste pming it?
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Same problem. Also the letter from Currie happened Wed, but Frank interviewed Mon. :dunno:
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The show clause thing isn't that bad. Currie and oscar will slay this infractions committee or whatever.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/6889041/oscar-pearl-ex-tennessee-volunteers-coach-receive-show-cause-penalty
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I love Frank and he has done great for us, but I do love them coaching searches.
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Same problem. Also the letter from Currie happened Wed, but Frank interviewed Mon. :dunno:
Frank is going to interview on Monday. He hasn't interviewed yet.
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Same problem. Also the letter from Currie happened Wed, but Frank interviewed Mon. :dunno:
Frank is going to interview on Monday. He hasn't interviewed yet.
Sorry, mildly drunk already and it won't get better from here. Did we ever get a price per letter for the Fire Snyder banner? How much to add /Currie?
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This is my issue with the letter:
After working throughout Friday night and Saturday morning, and consulting with the NCAA staff, it was determined that a violation had occurred, thus rendering Jamar ineligible to compete. During the first half we learned that Jamar would not be reinstated.
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Frank,
Thanks so much for everything you've done for our program, it means the world. Good luck at South Carolina.
Signed,
K-state fans
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People need to understand. If we get rid of Currie, there will be a major tuck push to make LHC Bill Snyder the next AD. Think about it.
then I will go extra tuck and demand bill coaches until he's 85
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Frank,
Thanks so much for everything you've done for our program, it means the world. Good luck at South Carolina.
Signed,
K-state fans
Hopefully, we can one day schedule a Salina/Charleston series with South Carolina and Frank can be present for a ceremony celebrating Underwood's 50th victory in a few years.
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has The Tweet shown up here yet?
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People need to understand. If we get rid of Currie, there will be a major tuck push to make LHC LHC Bill Snyder the next AD. Think about it.
a) This is not 1975.
b) We are not Nebraska.
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has The Tweet shown up here yet?
yes! :ksu:
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has The Tweet shown up here yet?
The random SC player saying Frank Martin is his coach?
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People need to understand. If we get rid of Currie, there will be a major tuck push to make LHC LHC Bill Snyder the next AD. Think about it.
a) This is not 1975.
b) We are not Nebraska.
I agree. The animal would have to turn in his sideburns if he hired LHC Bill Snyder as athletic director.
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has The Tweet shown up here yet?
The random SC player saying Frank Martin is his coach?
HE'S FROM MIAMI
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We suspended jamar, asked ncaa if he could play, they said no?
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has The Tweet shown up here yet?
The random SC player saying Frank Martin is his coach?
HE'S FROM MIAMI
:sdeek:
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Get lost Frank. Welcome Coach Pearl. Sorry _FAN but Mich is right about this one. Also do you guys think Pearl has rounded up a grcoat during his year off? I mean I know he's not allowed to have any contact with potential recruits and stuff but he does like to cheat so I bet he has a mysgrcoat just waiting to sign on with whatever school he ends up at. :drool:
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Frank,
Thanks so much for everything you've done for our program, it means the world. Good luck at South Carolina.
Signed,
K-state fans
Hopefully, we can one day schedule a Salina/Charleston series with South Carolina and Frank can be present for a ceremony celebrating Underwood's 50th victory in a few years.
Why the freak would we schedule South Carolina? It would hurt our RPI. Carolina sucks. Frank being there isn't going to make it any better. Truth be told, he got a gigantic boost to start his career with Beasley and Pullen and Sutton, etc via Delonte Hill. That scenario is a once in a lifetime. Carolina? Yeah, he's going to suck there. Sad but true, he'll disappear deep in the ACC. Frank's anger issues would destroy his career if he leaves because of a letter from Currie.
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Same problem. Also the letter from Currie happened Wed, but Frank interviewed Mon. :dunno:
Frank is going to interview on Monday. He hasn't interviewed yet.
Martin’s denial contradicts a report by the Gamecocks’ Rivals.com website that said Martin interviewed for the position earlier this week.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/23/3509687/report-south-carolina-asks-to.html#storylink=cpy
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Currie has always acted as if he could bring in someone better than Frank but the truth is he couldn't come close and that has been the splinter in his ass from day 1.
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Get lost Frank. Welcome Coach Pearl. Sorry _FAN but Mich is right about this one. Also do you guys think Pearl has rounded up a grcoat during his year off? I mean I know he's not allowed to have any contact with potential recruits and stuff but he does like to cheat so I bet he has a mysgrcoat just waiting to sign on with whatever school he ends up at. :drool:
Look, I'm not going to go against Mich calling his shot. I've learned my lesson.
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Do I still get my bobblehead?
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People need to understand. If we get rid of Currie, there will be a major tuck push to make LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder the next AD. Think about it.
a) This is not 1975.
b) We are not Nebraska.
Please, I heard tucks saying OB should be AD during his non-retirement.
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Curries little cute email on Wednesday was to prepare us for what he knows is coming.
Currie trying to dull the pitchforks and drench the torches.
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Frank will succeed at South Carolina if he gets enough time. He would succeed anywhere.
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Frank will succeed at South Carolina if he gets enough time. He would succeed anywhere.
I agree
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Frank will succeed at South Carolina if he gets enough time. He would succeed anywhere.
he needs at least 3 years at SC. They won 10 games last year. Think TTech '12 with a little more size...
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Frank will succeed at South Carolina if he gets enough time. He would succeed anywhere.
I agree
Trouble is, he won't get enough time, or Beasley, or Pullen, or Delonte.
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Frank will succeed at South Carolina if he gets enough time. He would succeed anywhere.
I agree
Probably, but they won't love him like we loved him.
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Frank will succeed at South Carolina if he gets enough time. He would succeed anywhere.
I agree
Probably, but they won't love him like we loved him.
lol. NO ONE will.
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Do I still get my bobblehead?
Oh eff, forgot about this.
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Frank will succeed at South Carolina if he gets enough time. He would succeed anywhere.
I agree
Probably, but they won't love him like we loved him.
I agree
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oscar pearl = serendipity
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I don't think he's going you guys. He wouldn't do that to us.
I mean, he just can't, right?
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oscar pearl = serendipity
it really is
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And LOL at Frank. (https://twitter.com/#!/RonAiken/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitpic.com%2F7hewhr)
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I don't think I have the energy for a crusade like I did w/ huggs, though. Hopefully someone will step up.
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Pearl would be an upgrade. It would be awesome. I just don't see the same AD who didn't play Jamar hiring oscar Pearl before his show cause expires.
If I were AD, I would have already had Martin's office cleaned out and I'd be shopping with oscar for purple suits, though.
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i forgot, who made the huggins for ksu web page? yosh?
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Why is no one calling for a rough ridin' RALLY?!!! Where the eff is ropinfeet?
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And LOL at Frank. (https://twitter.com/#!/RonAiken/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitpic.com%2F7hewhr)
Frank is a born loser, that is why he is going to USC. good riddance
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sprads is gone soooooooooooooooooo
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Pearl would be an upgrade. It would be awesome. I just don't see the same AD who didn't play Jamar hiring oscar Pearl before his show cause expires.
If I were AD, I would have already had Martin's office cleaned out and I'd be shopping with oscar for purple suits, though.
An AD that didn't play Jamar over $200 would be perfect for Pearl's return. The NCAA would love that crap. And we all know Currie loves the crap out of pearl since he hired him once already.
i forgot, who made the huggins for ksu web page? yosh?
pbadke?
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And LOL at Frank. (https://twitter.com/#!/RonAiken/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitpic.com%2F7hewhr)
Frank is a born loser, that is why he is going to USC. good riddance
In just 5 years, that arena will be so rowdy that they will nickname it the male genitals Pit and all the players will do the tunnel strut.
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Oh man, my huggins meltdown was just ridic. Not feeling it right now though.
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thats right, badke
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has The Tweet shown up here yet?
The random SC player saying Frank Martin is his coach?
link?
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has The Tweet shown up here yet?
The random SC player saying Frank Martin is his coach?
link?
https://twitter.com/#!/44tyrone/status/183361469470097408
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I was just a lurker during Huggs. I am going to melt down pretty good when this is official. :frown:
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I don't think I have the energy for a crusade like I did w/ huggs, though. Hopefully someone will step up.
If called upon, I'm confident we'll fulfill our civic duty, as we always have:
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Oh man, my huggins meltdown was just ridic. Not feeling it right now though.
i accidentally punched a hole in my wall junior year, :embarrassed:
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Pearl would be an upgrade. It would be awesome. I just don't see the same AD who didn't play Jamar hiring oscar Pearl before his show cause expires.
If I were AD, I would have already had Martin's office cleaned out and I'd be shopping with oscar for purple suits, though.
An AD that didn't play Jamar over $200 would be perfect for Pearl's return. The NCAA would love that crap. And we all know Currie loves the crap out of pearl since he hired him once already.
Oh man. Posts like this are going to make it that much harder when I have to google the candidate that we actually end up hiring.
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I hope we get Pearl. Good people deserve good things.
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I was just a lurker during Huggs. I am going to melt down pretty good when this is official. :frown:
I melted down SO rough ridin' BAD for Huggs. Probably worse than when we hired Snyder. Somewhat embarrassing, but thankfully any record of those moments are sitting in a dusty East Valley garage or something.
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I had a basketball I caught at a pep rally signed by huggs and the entire 2006-2007 team. I gave it away in anger when he left. Kinda wish I hadn't
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I was just a lurker during Huggs. I am going to melt down pretty good when this is official. :frown:
I melted down SO rough ridin' BAD for Huggs. Probably worse than when we hired Snyder. Somewhat embarrassing, but thankfully any record of those moments are sitting in a dusty East Valley garage or something.
Those were tough days...
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Pearl would be an upgrade. It would be awesome. I just don't see the same AD who didn't play Jamar hiring oscar Pearl before his show cause expires.
If I were AD, I would have already had Martin's office cleaned out and I'd be shopping with oscar for purple suits, though.
An AD that didn't play Jamar over $200 would be perfect for Pearl's return. The NCAA would love that crap. And we all know Currie loves the crap out of pearl since he hired him once already.
Oh man. Posts like this are going to make it that much harder when I have to google the candidate that we actually end up hiring.
tell your friends. spread this talking point. make it happen. IN THE END, EMAW WILL ALWAYS WIN
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I'm not going to be pissed when this is official. Just embarrassed. We can't retain a coach to save our (basketball program's) life.
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I was just a lurker during Huggs. I am going to melt down pretty good when this is official. :frown:
I melted down SO rough ridin' BAD for Huggs. Probably worse than when we hired Snyder. Somewhat embarrassing, but thankfully any record of those moments are sitting in a dusty East Valley garage or something.
Those were tough days...
I remember spotting the plane that was picking him up on flightaware. :sdeek:
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I was just a lurker during Huggs. I am going to melt down pretty good when this is official. :frown:
I melted down SO rough ridin' BAD for Huggs. Probably worse than when we hired Snyder. Somewhat embarrassing, but thankfully any record of those moments are sitting in a dusty East Valley garage or something.
Those were tough days...
I don't have it in me to meltdown for Frank. Probably just give up and focus on pro sports
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Remember when Frank went to Miami guys?
Me neither.
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I'm not going to be pissed when this is official. Just embarrassed. We can't retain a coach to save our (basketball program's) life.
LHC Bill Snyder loves us so much that he still wanted to come back after we all but fired him.
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the only reason I melted down about Huggs was because I thought we were going to lose Beasley also, otherwise I wouldn't have cared.
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i don't want him to leave :cry:
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I had a basketball I caught at a pep rally signed by huggs and the entire 2006-2007 team. I gave it away in anger when he left. Kinda wish I hadn't
I have a signed Frank cat bball on display. Should I keep it? I would like to bounce it off Curries's face. If I could do that, I would def keep it.
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I'm not going to be pissed when this is official. Just embarrassed. We can't retain a coach to save our (basketball program's) life.
LHC Bill Snyder loves us so much that he still wanted to come back after we all but fired him.
I qualified my statement with "basketball".
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was easy to survive huggs because of beas/walker. thats obvious. i think this is surviveable with some of the talent we have, plus the practice facility and fan support. i would definitely be disapointed, but i'd be willing to climb on board with the next hire rather quickly if its decent. Biggest issue would be currie...don't trust that guy. even though he's been pretty solid up till now.
summary...feeling meh and will just enjoy watching it all play out.
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I won't be melting down until we hire a shitty replacement. If we somehow end up with oscar Pearl, I say give Currie a raise.
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I was just a lurker during Huggs. I am going to melt down pretty good when this is official. :frown:
I melted down SO rough ridin' BAD for Huggs. Probably worse than when we hired Snyder. Somewhat embarrassing, but thankfully any record of those moments are sitting in a dusty East Valley garage or something.
Those were tough days...
I remember spotting the plane that was picking him up on flightaware. :sdeek:
Speaking of flightaware, someone needs to be on that 24/7 to keep track of frank and so we can keep up on the coaching search
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I had a basketball I caught at a pep rally signed by huggs and the entire 2006-2007 team. I gave it away in anger when he left. Kinda wish I hadn't
I have a signed Frank cat bball on display. Should I keep it? I would like to bounce it off Curries's face. If I could do that, I would def keep it.
Keep it
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All season long I thought Frank seemed emotionally disconnected. He acted like he didn't give a crap. I told myself it was because he was gone after this season. Seems I was right.
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I just want a coach willing to bend/break rules to win games and recruit 5'ers.
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Remember when Frank went to Miami guys?
Me neither.
That would have been easier.
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I remember spotting the plane that was picking him up on flightaware. :sdeek:
Honestly, Frank leaving will be nothing compared to Huggs. Frank leaving is more laughing and crying at the same time.
South Carolina and their 1 NCAA tournament since 2000 and that season they nearly filled their arena to 2/3 capacity. Never been to an Elite 8.
I mean, I don't even...
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was easy to survive huggs because of beas/walker. thats obvious. i think this is surviveable with some of the talent we have, plus the practice facility and fan support. i would definitely be disapointed, but i'd be willing to climb on board with the next hire rather quickly if its decent. Biggest issue would be currie...don't trust that guy. even though he's been pretty solid up till now.
summary...feeling meh and will just enjoy watching it all play out.
Do you really think Rod, Gip, and our current commits will stay. Lol
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was easy to survive huggs because of beas/walker. thats obvious. i think this is surviveable with some of the talent we have, plus the practice facility and fan support. i would definitely be disapointed, but i'd be willing to climb on board with the next hire rather quickly if its decent. Biggest issue would be currie...don't trust that guy. even though he's been pretty solid up till now.
summary...feeling meh and will just enjoy watching it all play out.
all will be gone
rod will leave
angel will leave
jo will leave
gip wlll leave
practice facility will dry up and currie will divert the funds to football
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I was just a lurker during Huggs. I am going to melt down pretty good when this is official. :frown:
I melted down SO rough ridin' BAD for Huggs. Probably worse than when we hired Snyder. Somewhat embarrassing, but thankfully any record of those moments are sitting in a dusty East Valley garage or something.
Those were tough days...
I remember spotting the plane that was picking him up on flightaware. :sdeek:
Speaking of flightaware, someone needs to be on that 24/7 to keep track of frank and so we can keep up on the coaching search
he will interview in atlanta and is flying commercial on cbs's dime, I'm sure. then he will come back to manhattan to pack his bags and say hi to his old pal oscar pearl who is getting fitted for a purple suit at Perfect Stitches.
hth
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I remember spotting the plane that was picking him up on flightaware. :sdeek:
Honestly, Frank leaving will be nothing compared to Huggs. Frank leaving is more laughing and crying at the same time.
South Carolina and their 1 NCAA tournament since 2000 and that season they nearly filled their arena to 2/3 capacity. Never been to an Elite 8.
I mean, I don't even...
We're getting dumped for a fat chick.
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I won't be melting down until we hire a shitty replacement.
this
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I remember spotting the plane that was picking him up on flightaware. :sdeek:
Honestly, Frank leaving will be nothing compared to Huggs. Frank leaving is more laughing and crying at the same time.
South Carolina and their 1 NCAA tournament since 2000 and that season they nearly filled their arena to 2/3 capacity. Never been to an Elite 8.
I mean, I don't even...
We're getting dumped for a fat chick.
Honestly, that is disrespectful to fat chicks.
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was easy to survive huggs because of beas/walker. thats obvious. i think this is surviveable with some of the talent we have, plus the practice facility and fan support. i would definitely be disapointed, but i'd be willing to climb on board with the next hire rather quickly if its decent. Biggest issue would be currie...don't trust that guy. even though he's been pretty solid up till now.
summary...feeling meh and will just enjoy watching it all play out.
Do you really think Rod, Gip, and our current commits will stay. Lol
Rod isn't going to sit out a year to play one. Gip might stay, depending on who we hire.
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was easy to survive huggs because of beas/walker. thats obvious. i think this is surviveable with some of the talent we have, plus the practice facility and fan support. i would definitely be disapointed, but i'd be willing to climb on board with the next hire rather quickly if its decent. Biggest issue would be currie...don't trust that guy. even though he's been pretty solid up till now.
summary...feeling meh and will just enjoy watching it all play out.
all will be gone
rod will leave
angel will leave
jo will leave
gip wlll leave
practice facility will dry up and currie will divert the funds to football
depends on the hire then. perhaps i am being a little too stupidly optimistic.
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I was just a lurker during Huggs. I am going to melt down pretty good when this is official. :frown:
I melted down SO rough ridin' BAD for Huggs. Probably worse than when we hired Snyder. Somewhat embarrassing, but thankfully any record of those moments are sitting in a dusty East Valley garage or something.
Those were tough days...
I remember spotting the plane that was picking him up on flightaware. :sdeek:
Speaking of flightaware, someone needs to be on that 24/7 to keep track of frank and so we can keep up on the coaching search
he will interview in atlanta and is flying commercial on cbs's dime, I'm sure. then he will come back to manhattan to pack his bags and say hi to his old pal oscar pearl who is getting fitted for a purple suit at Perfect Stitches.
hth
:thumbs:
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I remember spotting the plane that was picking him up on flightaware. :sdeek:
Honestly, Frank leaving will be nothing compared to Huggs. Frank leaving is more laughing and crying at the same time.
South Carolina and their 1 NCAA tournament since 2000 and that season they nearly filled their arena to 2/3 capacity. Never been to an Elite 8.
I mean, I don't even...
yeah, I always said I would worry if WVU came open.
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Whew, I knew we were melting down over nothing...
Dave Lewis ? @davelewislive
Here's an idea: Patience. Too much unfounded speculation. What will happen will happen and believe only CREDIBLE SOURCES.
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was easy to survive huggs because of beas/walker. thats obvious. i think this is surviveable with some of the talent we have, plus the practice facility and fan support. i would definitely be disapointed, but i'd be willing to climb on board with the next hire rather quickly if its decent. Biggest issue would be currie...don't trust that guy. even though he's been pretty solid up till now.
summary...feeling meh and will just enjoy watching it all play out.
Do you really think Rod, Gip, and our current commits will stay. Lol
Rod isn't going to sit out a year to play one. Gip might stay, depending on who we hire.
hint: yes he will
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I don't think I have the energy for a crusade like I did w/ huggs, though. Hopefully someone will step up.
I got this!
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I remember spotting the plane that was picking him up on flightaware. :sdeek:
Honestly, Frank leaving will be nothing compared to Huggs. Frank leaving is more laughing and crying at the same time.
South Carolina and their 1 NCAA tournament since 2000 and that season they nearly filled their arena to 2/3 capacity. Never been to an Elite 8.
I mean, I don't even...
We're getting dumped for a fat chick.
Honestly, that is disrespectful to fat chicks.
Fat chick from South Carolina, who is poorer, meaner, and a terrible cook
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Why is this happening? And why does it seem like nobody cares? This rough ridin' sucks! Everything was going so well. eff! I'm going to cry.
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was easy to survive huggs because of beas/walker. thats obvious. i think this is surviveable with some of the talent we have, plus the practice facility and fan support. i would definitely be disapointed, but i'd be willing to climb on board with the next hire rather quickly if its decent. Biggest issue would be currie...don't trust that guy. even though he's been pretty solid up till now.
summary...feeling meh and will just enjoy watching it all play out.
Do you really think Rod, Gip, and our current commits will stay. Lol
Rod isn't going to sit out a year to play one. Gip might stay, depending on who we hire.
Yes he will. HOME.
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realistically though, how likely is it all our good players leave? i doubt the practice facility gets canceled at this point.
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was easy to survive huggs because of beas/walker. thats obvious. i think this is surviveable with some of the talent we have, plus the practice facility and fan support. i would definitely be disapointed, but i'd be willing to climb on board with the next hire rather quickly if its decent. Biggest issue would be currie...don't trust that guy. even though he's been pretty solid up till now.
summary...feeling meh and will just enjoy watching it all play out.
all will be gone
rod will leave
angel will leave
jo will leave
gip wlll leave
practice facility will dry up and currie will divert the funds to football
any player that leaves because of frank is a loser. A LOSER!
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I don't really care whose fault this is. I care that after 5 seasons of hearing Frank Martin talk about how he's not coaching, but teaching boys to become young men, how in the real world if you mess up you get fired and how tough life is and all of his math teacher, poor Cuban immigrant horseshit... he's going to tuck his tail and run to an inferior program when things get a little tough. Everyone has disagreements with management but if you like the company, you stay.
Frank Martin. Huge pussy. Massive hypocrite.
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was easy to survive huggs because of beas/walker. thats obvious. i think this is surviveable with some of the talent we have, plus the practice facility and fan support. i would definitely be disapointed, but i'd be willing to climb on board with the next hire rather quickly if its decent. Biggest issue would be currie...don't trust that guy. even though he's been pretty solid up till now.
summary...feeling meh and will just enjoy watching it all play out.
Do you really think Rod, Gip, and our current commits will stay. Lol
Rod isn't going to sit out a year to play one. Gip might stay, depending on who we hire.
Sorry meant Angel
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I don't really care whose fault this is. I care that after 5 seasons of hearing Frank Martin talk about how he's not coaching, but teaching boys to become young men, how in the real world if you mess up you get fired and how tough life is and all of his math teacher, poor Cuban immigrant horseshit... he's going to tuck his tail and run to an inferior program when things get a little tough. Everyone has disagreements with management but if you like the company, you stay.
Frank Martin. Huge pussy. Massive hypocrite.
You told me he was staying
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realistically though, how likely is it all our good players leave? i doubt the practice facility gets canceled at this point.
None of our current players is here for a practice facility.
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realistically though, how likely is it all our good players leave? i doubt the practice facility gets canceled at this point.
That's what they said about the foundations foundation/meat goat grazing yard.
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I don't really care whose fault this is. I care that after 5 seasons of hearing Frank Martin talk about how he's not coaching, but teaching boys to become young men, how in the real world if you mess up you get fired and how tough life is and all of his math teacher, poor Cuban immigrant horseshit... he's going to tuck his tail and run to an inferior program when things get a little tough. Everyone has disagreements with management but if you like the company, you stay.
Frank Martin. Huge pussy. Massive hypocrite.
If he leaves, this is pretty much the line I'm going to take.
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Lol
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I don't really care whose fault this is. I care that after 5 seasons of hearing Frank Martin talk about how he's not coaching, but teaching boys to become young men, how in the real world if you mess up you get fired and how tough life is and all of his math teacher, poor Cuban immigrant horseshit... he's going to tuck his tail and run to an inferior program when things get a little tough. Everyone has disagreements with management but if you like the company, you stay.
Frank Martin. Huge pussy. Massive hypocrite.
If he leaves, this is pretty much the line I'm going to take.
I took this stance earlier this week. I will take it no matter what happens.
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I don't really care whose fault this is. I care that after 5 seasons of hearing Frank Martin talk about how he's not coaching, but teaching boys to become young men, how in the real world if you mess up you get fired and how tough life is and all of his math teacher, poor Cuban immigrant horseshit... he's going to tuck his tail and run to an inferior program when things get a little tough. Everyone has disagreements with management but if you like the company, you stay.
Frank Martin. Huge pussy. Massive hypocrite.
If he leaves, this is pretty much the line I'm going to take.
Its going to be hard not to got there at least a little bit.
I can't get over, this is South Carolina basketball we're talking about here.
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I don't really care whose fault this is. I care that after 5 seasons of hearing Frank Martin talk about how he's not coaching, but teaching boys to become young men, how in the real world if you mess up you get fired and how tough life is and all of his math teacher, poor Cuban immigrant horseshit... he's going to tuck his tail and run to an inferior program when things get a little tough. Everyone has disagreements with management but if you like the company, you stay.
Frank Martin. Huge pussy. Massive hypocrite.
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You told me he was staying
Just getting my viewpoint out there preemptively
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I hope he announces it to the world tomorrow on tv
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I don't really care whose fault this is. I care that after 5 seasons of hearing Frank Martin talk about how he's not coaching, but teaching boys to become young men, how in the real world if you mess up you get fired and how tough life is and all of his math teacher, poor Cuban immigrant horseshit... he's going to tuck his tail and run to an inferior program when things get a little tough. Everyone has disagreements with management but if you like the company, you stay.
Frank Martin. Huge pussy. Massive hypocrite.
If he leaves, this is pretty much the line I'm going to take.
I took this stance earlier this week. I will take it no matter what happens.
You have really grown alot over the past week.
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I can't get over, this is South Carolina basketball we're talking about here.
This is why I think all of this is largely complete bullshit and am not melting down. Nervous? I guess so. Melting down about some shitty SEC team? Not really.
I mean, at this point, we're a "good" basketball program paying him good money. South Carolina isn't even mediocre.
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If we end up with Pearl, Currie would have managed to collect a $2 million buyout and upgrade his bball coach. That would be pretty damn impressive.
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I don't really care whose fault this is. I care that after 5 seasons of hearing Frank Martin talk about how he's not coaching, but teaching boys to become young men, how in the real world if you mess up you get fired and how tough life is and all of his math teacher, poor Cuban immigrant horseshit... he's going to tuck his tail and run to an inferior program when things get a little tough. Everyone has disagreements with management but if you like the company, you stay.
Frank Martin. Huge pussy. Massive hypocrite.
If he leaves, this is pretty much the line I'm going to take.
I took this stance earlier this week. I will take it no matter what happens.
You have really grown alot over the past week.
I still want him to be our coach, even if he's a hypocrite with no balls.
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can someone shadow Animal and make sure he doesn't make Olive Garden reservations.
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I still want him to be our coach, even if he's a hypocrite with no balls.
Yeah.
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I don't really care whose fault this is. I care that after 5 seasons of hearing Frank Martin talk about how he's not coaching, but teaching boys to become young men, how in the real world if you mess up you get fired and how tough life is and all of his math teacher, poor Cuban immigrant horseshit... he's going to tuck his tail and run to an inferior program when things get a little tough. Everyone has disagreements with management but if you like the company, you stay.
Frank Martin. Huge pussy. Massive hypocrite.
If he leaves, this is pretty much the line I'm going to take.
I took this stance earlier this week. I will take it no matter what happens.
Me too. It's the only line to take. He always drives into the ground about being loyal. Frank take your "loyalty" and :jerk:
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realistically though, how likely is it all our good players leave? i doubt the practice facility gets canceled at this point.
None of our current players is here for a practice facility.
i wasn't saying they were. unless you meant we still got good players without it? i wasn't trying to connect the two. just saying its unlikely there will be a mass exodus no matter who we hire. and i was under the impression the funding for the practice facility was taken care of since its already being built.
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Took me like 3 hours to get the Doom sign centered on DSF's collar on that shitty website. Will OOD be the same without Frank? DSF will be so upset, he loves looking all badass.
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i wasn't saying they were. unless you meant we still got good players without it? i wasn't trying to connect the two. just saying its unlikely there will be a mass exodus no matter who we hire. and i was under the impression the funding for the practice facility was taken care of since its already being built.
Got it. Yeah, the practice facility is a done deal, but I think we'll lose lots of players if Frank leaves, and mostly good ones.
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South Carolina won the NIT twice in a row
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I don't really care whose fault this is. I care that after 5 seasons of hearing Frank Martin talk about how he's not coaching, but teaching boys to become young men, how in the real world if you mess up you get fired and how tough life is and all of his math teacher, poor Cuban immigrant horseshit... he's going to tuck his tail and run to an inferior program when things get a little tough. Everyone has disagreements with management but if you like the company, you stay.
Frank Martin. Huge pussy. Massive hypocrite.
If he leaves, this is pretty much the line I'm going to take.
I took this stance earlier this week. I will take it no matter what happens.
You have really grown alot over the past week.
I still want him to be our coach, even if he's a hypocrite with no balls.
I will agree with this as well.
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I don't really care whose fault this is. I care that after 5 seasons of hearing Frank Martin talk about how he's not coaching, but teaching boys to become young men, how in the real world if you mess up you get fired and how tough life is and all of his math teacher, poor Cuban immigrant horseshit... he's going to tuck his tail and run to an inferior program when things get a little tough. Everyone has disagreements with management but if you like the company, you stay.
Frank Martin. Huge pussy. Massive hypocrite.
If he leaves, this is pretty much the line I'm going to take.
I took this stance earlier this week. I will take it no matter what happens.
You have really grown alot over the past week.
I still want him to be our coach, even if he's a hypocrite with no balls.
I will agree with this as well.
+1
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where is captain crap in all of this? someone send up the CC signal.
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where is captain crap in all of this? someone send up the CC signal.
manning the phones? :ohno:
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i wasn't saying they were. unless you meant we still got good players without it? i wasn't trying to connect the two. just saying its unlikely there will be a mass exodus no matter who we hire. and i was under the impression the funding for the practice facility was taken care of since its already being built.
Got it. Yeah, the practice facility is a done deal, but I think we'll lose lots of players if Frank leaves, and mostly good ones.
hope not. currie should be immediately fired if he hires a coach so pathetic he can't retain any of the talent.
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i'd love to see frank leave, just because i love ksu fan meltdowns, but the same guy who cleared the way for frank to take over as head coach will ultimately be the same guy who convinces him to stay. huggins is coming to the B12 and wants to coach against his buddy frank every year (mostly to beat him).
i say no way does frank leave.
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where is captain crap in all of this? someone send up the CC signal.
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All season long I thought Frank seemed emotionally disconnected. He acted like he didn't give a crap. I told myself it was because he was gone after this season. Seems I was right.
i thought this in several games too. but i thought he just looked tired more than anything. maybe it was more.
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i'd love to see frank leave, just because i love ksu fan meltdowns, but the same guy who cleared the way for frank to take over as head coach will ultimately be the same guy who convinces him to stay. huggins is coming to the B12 and wants to coach against his buddy frank every year (mostly to beat him).
i say no way does frank leave.
:)
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South Carolina won the NIT twice in a row
love these kind of posts from saul. love them.
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Shawn Meyer just tweeted "Don't worry"
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All season long I thought Frank seemed emotionally disconnected. He acted like he didn't give a crap. I told myself it was because he was gone after this season. Seems I was right.
i thought this in several games too. but i thought he just looked tired more than anything. maybe it was more.
freshman point guard, JO situation, likely more that we don't know about. i have a feeling he's really struggled with the players this year, which is understandable with how different our highs and lows were.
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Shawn Meyer just tweeted "Don't worry"
In that case. :party:
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:lol:
Shawn Meyer just tweeted "Don't worry"
:bawl:
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i wasn't saying they were. unless you meant we still got good players without it? i wasn't trying to connect the two. just saying its unlikely there will be a mass exodus no matter who we hire. and i was under the impression the funding for the practice facility was taken care of since its already being built.
Got it. Yeah, the practice facility is a done deal, but I think we'll lose lots of players if Frank leaves, and mostly good ones.
hope not. currie should be immediately fired if he hires a coach so pathetic he can't retain any of the talent.
I will put very little stock into which players the next coach keeps around. This is much different than when Frank replaced Huggins.
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If we end up with Pearl, Currie would have managed to collect a $2 million buyout and upgrade his bball coach. That would be pretty damn impressive.
I think you're giving JC a bit too much credit to plan something out like that.
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Shawn Meyer just tweeted "Don't worry"
who?
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Shawn Meyer just tweeted "Don't worry"
who?
:lol:
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Shawn Meyer just tweeted "Don't worry"
crap, he's gotta be thrilled.
He may start next year.
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Official LSOC position: We don't want a coach dumb enough to leave KSU for South Carolina.
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All you guys who think there will be a mass exodus of players are batshit crazy. There's a reason why that never happens when a coach leaves a school. The only players that would be granted a release is some combination, but not all five, of the three freshmen and two signees.
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@jeff_burkhart: If Frank leaves, #KState nation will need to take a hard look at itself in the mirror
Can someone explain what this means? If Frank leaves, I need to look in the mirror?
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Official LSOC position: We don't want a coach dumb enough to leave KSU for South Carolina.
I think this is a solid position.
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Official LSOC position: We don't want a coach dumb enough to leave KSU for South Carolina.
This.
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@jeff_burkhart: If Frank leaves, #KState nation will need to take a hard look at itself in the mirror
Can someone explain what this means? If Frank leaves, I need to look in the mirror?
I don't think he knows what he's talking about.
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All you guys who think there will be a mass exodus of players are batshit crazy. There's a reason why that never happens when a coach leaves a school. The only players that would be granted a release is some combination, but not all five, of the three freshmen and two signees.
Point is good players (plural) would likely leave.
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Official LSOC position: We don't want a coach dumb enough to leave KSU for South Carolina.
I would let Forrest Gump coach this team if he took them to the tournament every year.
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@jeff_burkhart: If Frank leaves, #KState nation will need to take a hard look at itself in the mirror
Can someone explain what this means? If Frank leaves, I need to look in the mirror?
Is our next coach in the mirror?
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@jeff_burkhart: If Frank leaves, #KState nation will need to take a hard look at itself in the mirror
Can someone explain what this means? If Frank leaves, I need to look in the mirror?
that certainly seems to be what he's saying.
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i just hope this thread turns out like the "cigars" thread and on page 700 we find out we're actually in better shape than where we started.
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@THEChrisHarper: Wisdom for the day: don't believe rumors, go to the source. If you don't know something 100% don't repeat it
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i just hope this thread turns out like the "cigars" thread and on page 700 we find out we're actually in better shape than where we started.
We got a lot of heartache to make to 700
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Figger is ready.
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Official LSOC position: We don't want a coach dumb enough to leave KSU for South Carolina.
I would let Forrest Gump coach this team if he took them to the tournament every year.
. Ha. Exactly
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Official LSOC position: We don't want a coach dumb enough to leave KSU for South Carolina.
I would let Forrest Gump coach this team if he took them to the tournament every year.
You didn't read my post, so don't quote it.
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I'm just sad and defeated. We are kstate. We were the whole time. At least we'll always have jake and denis.
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Twitter is to the sports world as what birth control was to the 60's. I love it so much.
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@THEChrisHarper: Wisdom for the day: don't believe rumors, go to the source. If you don't know something 100% don't repeat it
Damn Chris. You're right. :embarrassed:
He's so wise.
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If it wasn't for Michael Beasley(and Dalonte Hill), Frank Martin would be an assistant coach for West Virginia right now.
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I won't really feel any of this until our next coach actually pronounces tournament correctly.
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This seems pretty close to "don't worry"...
@darrenkent_42: Unreal game tonight for Kevin Love with his 51points 14 rebounds
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This seems pretty close to "don't worry"...
@darrenkent_42: Unreal game tonight for Kevin Love with his 51points 14 rebounds
lol
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This seems pretty close to "don't worry"...
@darrenkent_42: Unreal game tonight for Kevin Love with his 51points 14 rebounds
Kent is the next head coach with Shawn Meyer starting. :frown:
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@jeff_burkhart: If Frank leaves, #KState nation will need to take a hard look at itself in the mirror
Can someone explain what this means? If Frank leaves, I need to look in the mirror?
1. Who the hell is Jeff Burkhart?
2. If Frank leaves I don't think the transfer situation will be as bad as you think. We will be selective with releases as to not wreck the program and screw up the APR. More often in these cases is the players will play for the new guy for a year and then leave after that if the player/coach relationship isn't good.
Whoever gets this team will have enough good pieces that they will be expected to make the tournament.
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@jeff_burkhart: If Frank leaves, #KState nation will need to take a hard look at itself in the mirror
Can someone explain what this means? If Frank leaves, I need to look in the mirror?
1. Who the hell is Jeff Burkhart?
2. If Frank leaves I don't think the transfer situation will be as bad as you think. We will be selective with releases as to not wreck the program and screw up the APR. More often in these cases is the players will play for the new guy for a year and then leave after that if the player/coach relationship isn't good.
Whoever gets this team will have enough good pieces that they will be expected to make the tournament.
I'm not sure those expectations are realistic. Our roster is built for Frank's system. We really need a "right fit" hire to have a lot of success year one.
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@DS4ms: Wait Frank Martin left? Lol
:dubious:
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@DS4ms: Wait Frank Martin left? Lol
:dubious:
:love:
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@jeff_burkhart: If Frank leaves, #KState nation will need to take a hard look at itself in the mirror
Can someone explain what this means? If Frank leaves, I need to look in the mirror?
1. Who the hell is Jeff Burkhart?
2. If Frank leaves I don't think the transfer situation will be as bad as you think. We will be selective with releases as to not wreck the program and screw up the APR. More often in these cases is the players will play for the new guy for a year and then leave after that if the player/coach relationship isn't good.
Whoever gets this team will have enough good pieces that they will be expected to make the tournament.
Are you giving up on the "stay Frank" stance?
I, myself not speaking on behalf of the goEMAW Board, will be pretty pissed at Frank. I have a "Pay Frank" t-shirt sitting right in front of me as I type this and put my rough ridin' money where my mouth is. If he leaves for USC I will no longer be a fan of Frank because his "loyalty" bullshit will be proven to be just that....bullshit.
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@jeff_burkhart: If Frank leaves, #KState nation will need to take a hard look at itself in the mirror
Can someone explain what this means? If Frank leaves, I need to look in the mirror?
1. Who the hell is Jeff Burkhart?
2. If Frank leaves I don't think the transfer situation will be as bad as you think. We will be selective with releases as to not wreck the program and screw up the APR. More often in these cases is the players will play for the new guy for a year and then leave after that if the player/coach relationship isn't good.
Whoever gets this team will have enough good pieces that they will be expected to make the tournament.
I'm not sure those expectations are realistic. Our roster is built for Frank's system. We really need a "right fit" hire to have a lot of success year one.
The two best returning players will be preseason 1st team all conference, and would start for every team in the conference. There are no "system" players in basketball.
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@jeff_burkhart: If Frank leaves, #KState nation will need to take a hard look at itself in the mirror
Can someone explain what this means? If Frank leaves, I need to look in the mirror?
1. Who the hell is Jeff Burkhart?
2. If Frank leaves I don't think the transfer situation will be as bad as you think. We will be selective with releases as to not wreck the program and screw up the APR. More often in these cases is the players will play for the new guy for a year and then leave after that if the player/coach relationship isn't good.
Whoever gets this team will have enough good pieces that they will be expected to make the tournament.
Are you giving up on the "stay Frank" stance?
I, myself not speaking on behalf of the goEMAW Board, will be pretty pissed at Frank. I have a "Pay Frank" t-shirt sitting right in front of me as I type this and put my rough ridin' money where my mouth is. If he leaves for USC I will no longer be a fan of Frank because his "loyalty" bullshit will be proven to be just that....bullshit.
Yep.
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Any one beginning to think that someone in the AD is just pulling a prank on our entire fan base?
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You guys. People are going to go back to only caring about football. :frown:
Basketball School! :angry:
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Any one beginning to think that someone in the AD is just pulling a prank on our entire fan base?
Would be way more elaborate than the goEMAW April Fool's day prank of 2010.
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If Frank leaves, K-State needs to hire Chris Mack.
Would be an upgrade. :surprised:
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If Frank leaves, K-State needs to hire Chris Mack.
Would be an upgrade. :surprised:
:lol:
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@DS4ms: Wait Frank Martin left? Lol
:dubious:
:love:
Oh man
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@jeff_burkhart: If Frank leaves, #KState nation will need to take a hard look at itself in the mirror
Can someone explain what this means? If Frank leaves, I need to look in the mirror?
1. Who the hell is Jeff Burkhart?
2. If Frank leaves I don't think the transfer situation will be as bad as you think. We will be selective with releases as to not wreck the program and screw up the APR. More often in these cases is the players will play for the new guy for a year and then leave after that if the player/coach relationship isn't good.
Whoever gets this team will have enough good pieces that they will be expected to make the tournament.
Are you giving up on the "stay Frank" stance?
I, myself not speaking on behalf of the goEMAW Board, will be pretty pissed at Frank. I have a "Pay Frank" t-shirt sitting right in front of me as I type this and put my rough ridin' money where my mouth is. If he leaves for USC I will no longer be a fan of Frank because his "loyalty" bullshit will be proven to be just that....bullshit.
lol, no, never, just tired of putting qualifiers on every sentence.
I'm hesitant of addressing the people killing Frank for lack of loyalty because I can't tell if serious in most cases but:
Loyalty doesn't mean you are going to stay at a job for one place forever. We all consider ourselves loyal, I'm sure most of us have had or will have more than one job, or best friend, or neighborhood, or significant other or whatever. Loyalty doesn't mean you have to sacrifice happiness, or security, or anything else out of loyalty. Generally doing something out of loyalty only is a terrible idea. This is all common sense and most of you realize this and that's why I'm fairly certain this loyalty talking point is just "message boardin."
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If Frank leaves, K-State needs to hire Chris Mack.
Would be an upgrade. :surprised:
:lol:
you laughing with me or at me?
mack attack is great. :frown:
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@jeff_burkhart: If Frank leaves, #KState nation will need to take a hard look at itself in the mirror
Can someone explain what this means? If Frank leaves, I need to look in the mirror?
1. Who the hell is Jeff Burkhart?
2. If Frank leaves I don't think the transfer situation will be as bad as you think. We will be selective with releases as to not wreck the program and screw up the APR. More often in these cases is the players will play for the new guy for a year and then leave after that if the player/coach relationship isn't good.
Whoever gets this team will have enough good pieces that they will be expected to make the tournament.
Are you giving up on the "stay Frank" stance?
I, myself not speaking on behalf of the goEMAW Board, will be pretty pissed at Frank. I have a "Pay Frank" t-shirt sitting right in front of me as I type this and put my rough ridin' money where my mouth is. If he leaves for USC I will no longer be a fan of Frank because his "loyalty" bullshit will be proven to be just that....bullshit.
lol, no, never, just tired of putting qualifiers on every sentence.
I'm hesitant of addressing the people killing Frank for lack of loyalty because I can't tell if serious in most cases but:
Loyalty doesn't mean you are going to stay at a job for one place forever. We all consider ourselves loyal, I'm sure most of us have had or will have more than one job, or best friend, or neighborhood, or significant other or whatever. Loyalty doesn't mean you have to sacrifice happiness, or security, or anything else out of loyalty. Generally doing something out of loyalty only is a terrible idea. This is all common sense and most of you realize this and that's why I'm fairly certain this loyalty talking point is just "message boardin."
the sad truth is Frank can't crush Currie like a Dove, the Animal won't/can't have it happen. His options other than leaving are slim
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If Frank leaves, K-State needs to hire Chris Mack.
Would be an upgrade. :surprised:
:lol:
you laughing with me or at me?
mack attack is great. :frown:
chris mack is too good for us. :frown:
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jj barea had a triple double 2nite
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chris mack is too good for us. :frown:
oh, phew. thought you hated him.
it seemed impossible, but thank goodness you don't.
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jj barea had a triple double 2nite
Durante and Westbrook both had 40+
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jj barea had a triple double 2nite
LOL
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South Carolina had a law on the books that wouldn't have allowed Frank to marry as recent as 1998. LMFAO if Frank actually moves there.
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@jeff_burkhart: If Frank leaves, #KState nation will need to take a hard look at itself in the mirror
Can someone explain what this means? If Frank leaves, I need to look in the mirror?
1. Who the hell is Jeff Burkhart?
2. If Frank leaves I don't think the transfer situation will be as bad as you think. We will be selective with releases as to not wreck the program and screw up the APR. More often in these cases is the players will play for the new guy for a year and then leave after that if the player/coach relationship isn't good.
Whoever gets this team will have enough good pieces that they will be expected to make the tournament.
Are you giving up on the "stay Frank" stance?
I, myself not speaking on behalf of the goEMAW Board, will be pretty pissed at Frank. I have a "Pay Frank" t-shirt sitting right in front of me as I type this and put my rough ridin' money where my mouth is. If he leaves for USC I will no longer be a fan of Frank because his "loyalty" bullshit will be proven to be just that....bullshit.
lol, no, never, just tired of putting qualifiers on every sentence.
I'm hesitant of addressing the people killing Frank for lack of loyalty because I can't tell if serious in most cases but:
Loyalty doesn't mean you are going to stay at a job for one place forever. We all consider ourselves loyal, I'm sure most of us have had or will have more than one job, or best friend, or neighborhood, or significant other or whatever. Loyalty doesn't mean you have to sacrifice happiness, or security, or anything else out of loyalty. Generally doing something out of loyalty only is a terrible idea. This is all common sense and most of you realize this and that's why I'm fairly certain this loyalty talking point is just "message boardin."
Staying at KSU versus SCU isn't a sacrifice in any respect. KSU is a better job, with equal pay, better talent, better fan support, better facilities, better future prospects, his recruits and his stamp. The "intangibles" aren't even close to equal.
This board, and myself, spent considerable time, effort and $$ in making sure Frank got a raise to be compensated at the level he deserved. Were we the main reason? Probably not but we put ourselves out there and definitely put our money where our mouths were. To leave for a demotion because he has a bitch with 1 guy isn't loyalty.
I wouldn't take a demotion or even a lateral from my job to spite 1 boss I hate. Especially if I told my employees all about loyalty.
That's just mean/ignorant.
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MIR, you're rebuttal? :users:
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eff. I skip out on this thread for 1 day and all this crap goes down. Its like confy armageddon all over again, my heart just can't take all these swirling rumors. Please Frank, don't leave us. If you do I will hate you forever, just like Huggins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f66b0VIGA1w
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I think frank is being more of a "be a man" hypocrite than a "be loyal" hypocrite. He's acting like a rough ridin' child.
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I think frank is being more of a "be a man" hypocrite than a "be loyal" hypocrite. He's acting like a rough ridin' child.
You always win me over in the end.
However, Currie needs to be smart enough to realize, "Losing basketball coach to South Carolina," will look horrible on his resume.
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I think frank is being more of a "be a man" hypocrite than a "be loyal" hypocrite. He's acting like a rough ridin' child.
I agree. In Frank's crybaby mind, he probably thinks he is being loyal to Jamar right now.
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I think frank is being more of a "be a man" hypocrite than a "be loyal" hypocrite. He's acting like a rough ridin' child.
Yeah he hasn't talked about loyalty nearly as much as he's given us speech after speech about what it is to be a man and how he teaches that. Right now he's basically Nick Russell or Ron Anderson and Currie is Frank.
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I think frank is being more of a "be a man" hypocrite than a "be loyal" hypocrite. He's acting like a rough ridin' child.
I could find at least 3 "I am all about loyalty" quotes from Frank from this season alone if I weren't so damn lazy. I know he preached it a lot this year.
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If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.
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If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.
Frank making an irrational decision based on pure emotion?
Surely, you jest.
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MIR, you're rebuttal? :users:
Don't really have a rebuttal, I don't know what that man is going through at work, nor do I know what his tolerance threshold is. I don't feel like watching lots of basketball and reading message boards qualifies me to know whether the man is a coward, hypocrite, pussy, etc. that's what message boards are for I guess and that's okay I suppose.
I'm sure we've all made decisions in our lives that people could externally second guess, it really doesn't mean anything. If he does leave I'll be grateful for the 5 years we had and hope the next 5 will be better. I won't even be mad at Currie unless it is confirmed that he's a liar like Fitz is hinting at.
also if you put your signature between (http://) we will actually be able to see it.
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I think frank is being more of a "be a man" hypocrite than a "be loyal" hypocrite. He's acting like a rough ridin' child.
This for sure
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If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.
The 18-40 year old fanbase of KSU galvanized behind him and supported him regardless. We went, we got loud, we invented the OOD and FTB (well, one guy did but still) and we pressured Currie to make sure he got paid. we also pushed for the practice facility. To take a lateral (at best) move because he has a beef with his boss means he is a dick. straight up dick. It means what we did is worth jack crap in his eyes. I would take it as a personal insult.
I don't care of Currie is to blame for making poor Frank mad. GET. OVER. IT.
Don't run away to SC because I can guarantee, it will be the last stop on the coaching "ladder"
No one will touch him after this unless he takes SC to a FF. Which wont happen.
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MIR, you're rebuttal? :users:
Don't really have a rebuttal, I don't know what that man is going through at work, nor do I know what his tolerance threshold is. I don't feel like watching lots of basketball and reading message boards qualifies me to know whether the man is a coward, hypocrite, pussy, etc. that's what message boards are for I guess and that's okay I suppose.
I'm sure we've all made decisions in our lives that people could externally second guess, it really doesn't mean anything. If he does leave I'll be grateful for the 5 years we had and hope the next 5 will be better. I won't even be mad at Currie unless it is confirmed that he's a liar like Fitz is hinting at.
also if you put your signature between (http://) we will actually be able to see it.
I guess I'd be mad at Currie because of how badly the relationship deteriorated. If Frank just hated him from Day 1 for no rational reason, okay, I'm not mad at Currie, but I doubt that was the case.
Any AD that loses a basketball coach to what is universally considered a lesser job obviously screwed something up pretty badly. And you can't really get away with that in either of the two major sports because of the overall impact it can have on your department.
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Honest question: If Frank takes the SC job, should Katz be fired?
I mean, really, what agent would okay that move?
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Honest question: If Frank takes the SC job, should Katz be fired?
If it's what Frank really wants, who is Katz to say no?
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Obviously I'm a new poster so I don't know all of this insidery info, but why would Frank hate Currie? Currie handed him his extension that made him cry and has brought in a ton of money from the alums to help build the BTF. Why does Frank hate Currie?
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I hope we don't have a repeat of the post Huggins leaving presser
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Honest question: If Frank takes the SC job, should Katz be fired?
I mean, really, what agent would okay that move?
Where does a coach go from South Carolina of they don't go to multiple E8's and at least one final four? Nowhere. Ever.
Evereverever. Am I wrong? What am I misreading here?
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If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.
The 18-40 year old fanbase of KSU galvanized behind him and supported him regardless. We went, we got loud, we invented the OOD and FTB (well, one guy did but still) and we pressured Currie to make sure he got paid. we also pushed for the practice facility. To take a lateral (at best) move because he has a beef with his boss means he is a dick. straight up dick. It means what we did is worth jack crap in his eyes. I would take it as a personal insult.
I don't care of Currie is to blame for making poor Frank mad. GET. OVER. IT.
Don't run away to SC because I can guarantee, it will be the last stop on the coaching "ladder"
No one will touch him after this unless he takes SC to a FF. Which wont happen.
We didn't do that stuff for Frank, we did it for us. If BTK was a good basketball coach after what we went through the previous 15 years we would have done the same things.
Those of you mad about the fact that this is USC, would you still be mad if they paid him $2 mil before bonuses?
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Honest question: If Frank takes the SC job, should Katz be fired?
I mean, really, what agent would okay that move?
:confused: is that a joke?
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currie will come out of this golden, his propaganda people have been doing amazing work
from what i heard tonight currie is already planting negative stories on Frank
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If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.
The 18-40 year old fanbase of KSU galvanized behind him and supported him regardless. We went, we got loud, we invented the OOD and FTB (well, one guy did but still) and we pressured Currie to make sure he got paid. we also pushed for the practice facility. To take a lateral (at best) move because he has a beef with his boss means he is a dick. straight up dick. It means what we did is worth jack crap in his eyes. I would take it as a personal insult.
I don't care of Currie is to blame for making poor Frank mad. GET. OVER. IT.
Don't run away to SC because I can guarantee, it will be the last stop on the coaching "ladder"
No one will touch him after this unless he takes SC to a FF. Which wont happen.
We didn't do that stuff for Frank, we did it for us. If BTK was a good basketball coach after what we went through the previous 15 years we would have done the same things.
Those of you mad about the fact that this is USC, would you still be mad if they paid him $2 mil before bonuses?
If Frank didn't even wait on his mandatory contract renegotiation with us after April 1, yes.
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Honest question: If Frank takes the SC job, should Katz be fired?
If it's what Frank really wants, who is Katz to say no?
A good realtor would tell you not to buy a garbage house to just make some commission because they realize that they may get repeat business from you later if they did a good job.
Limestone is right; if Martin takes that job, he better go deep in the tournament multiple times or else he's a lifer there.
And if Frank gets upset with our attendance here, he'll be beside himself there.
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Even though we didn't get many 5/4 star recruits, I liked getting all the mentions, it made me feel important.
I just can't get excited about the mysterywestafricanthatgrewupplayingvolleyballbuthasalotofrawability and the Quentin Buchanans of the world :cry:
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Honest question: If Frank takes the SC job, should Katz be fired?
I mean, really, what agent would okay that move?
:confused: is that a joke?
From what I've seen out there, SC's offer would be lateral in terms of pay.
And, I'm half joking. But, yes, I think someone needs to get into Frank's ear and say, "Dude...what are you doing? Don't go home with the first chick that lets you buy her a drink." If not Katz, then it needs to be someone else.
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If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.
The 18-40 year old fanbase of KSU galvanized behind him and supported him regardless. We went, we got loud, we invented the OOD and FTB (well, one guy did but still) and we pressured Currie to make sure he got paid. we also pushed for the practice facility. To take a lateral (at best) move because he has a beef with his boss means he is a dick. straight up dick. It means what we did is worth jack crap in his eyes. I would take it as a personal insult.
I don't care of Currie is to blame for making poor Frank mad. GET. OVER. IT.
Don't run away to SC because I can guarantee, it will be the last stop on the coaching "ladder"
No one will touch him after this unless he takes SC to a FF. Which wont happen.
We didn't do that stuff for Frank, we did it for us. If BTK was a good basketball coach after what we went through the previous 15 years we would have done the same things.
Those of you mad about the fact that this is USC, would you still be mad if they paid him $2 mil before bonuses?
Of course we did it for us, and having a program we wanted. How does that change crap? we showed the kind of support that there will never be at SC. It benefited Frank to the tune of 6 figures that none of us (besides Beems) make every year.
If Frank left for a better program, or more money, I'd reconsider. But he isn't. You and I both know SC isn't paying Frank 2 mill.
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currie will come out of this golden, his propaganda people have been doing amazing work
from what i heard tonight currie is already planting negative stories on Frank
Examples?
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If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.
The 18-40 year old fanbase of KSU galvanized behind him and supported him regardless. We went, we got loud, we invented the OOD and FTB (well, one guy did but still) and we pressured Currie to make sure he got paid. we also pushed for the practice facility. To take a lateral (at best) move because he has a beef with his boss means he is a dick. straight up dick. It means what we did is worth jack crap in his eyes. I would take it as a personal insult.
I don't care of Currie is to blame for making poor Frank mad. GET. OVER. IT.
Don't run away to SC because I can guarantee, it will be the last stop on the coaching "ladder"
No one will touch him after this unless he takes SC to a FF. Which wont happen.
We didn't do that stuff for Frank, we did it for us. If BTK was a good basketball coach after what we went through the previous 15 years we would have done the same things.
Those of you mad about the fact that this is USC, would you still be mad if they paid him $2 mil before bonuses?
If Frank didn't even wait on his mandatory contract renegotiation with us after April 1, yes.
There is no language in the contract preventing an offer/negotiation before next Sunday. Besides if he is dead set on leaving what good with a negotiation do if it didn't start with Currie handing in a resignation letter?
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Even though we didn't get many 5/4 star recruits, I liked getting all the mentions, it made me feel important.
I just can't get excited about the mysterywestafricanthatgrewupplayingvolleyballbuthasalotofrawability and the Quentin Buchanans of the world :cry:
Currie may have mumped this up to whatever degree but I don't think he's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) enough to go hire Wooly 2.0. JMO.
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If Martin can get South Carolina to a couple tourney's and maybe a sweet 16 he'd have his pick of KSU or slightly higher tier jobs.. It still doesn't make any sense to take a big step down like he is, to me that says your AD rough ridin' sucks.. Currie is getting off easy IMO, I'd be rioting in front of his house, kidnap his dog or something..
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Would love a neg story example. TIA
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If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.
The 18-40 year old fanbase of KSU galvanized behind him and supported him regardless. We went, we got loud, we invented the OOD and FTB (well, one guy did but still) and we pressured Currie to make sure he got paid. we also pushed for the practice facility. To take a lateral (at best) move because he has a beef with his boss means he is a dick. straight up dick. It means what we did is worth jack crap in his eyes. I would take it as a personal insult.
I don't care of Currie is to blame for making poor Frank mad. GET. OVER. IT.
Don't run away to SC because I can guarantee, it will be the last stop on the coaching "ladder"
No one will touch him after this unless he takes SC to a FF. Which wont happen.
We didn't do that stuff for Frank, we did it for us. If BTK was a good basketball coach after what we went through the previous 15 years we would have done the same things.
Those of you mad about the fact that this is USC, would you still be mad if they paid him $2 mil before bonuses?
Of course we did it for us, and having a program we wanted. How does that change crap? we showed the kind of support that there will never be at SC. It benefited Frank to the tune of 6 figures that none of us (besides Beems) make every year.
If Frank left for a better program, or more money, I'd reconsider. But he isn't. You and I both know SC isn't paying Frank 2 mill.
Limestone, you know full well that if he wins at USC they will support him. Everything we think about USC was us before Huggins came to town. We both sat through plenty of conference games with 5000 of our closest friends.
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If Martin can get South Carolina to a couple tourney's and maybe a sweet 16 he'd have his pick of KSU or slightly higher tier jobs.. It still doesn't make any sense to take a big step down like he is, to me that says your AD rough ridin' sucks.. Currie is getting off easy IMO, I'd be rioting in front of his house, kidnap his dog or something..
LOL. Currie's dog would crap on your floor and declare your flat screen ineligible.
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Even though we didn't get many 5/4 star recruits, I liked getting all the mentions, it made me feel important.
I just can't get excited about the mysterywestafricanthatgrewupplayingvolleyballbuthasalotofrawability and the Quentin Buchanans of the world :cry:
Currie may have mumped this up to whatever degree but I don't think he's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) enough to go hire Wooly 2.0. JMO.
'Cept that we might not be swimming in better options
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If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.
The 18-40 year old fanbase of KSU galvanized behind him and supported him regardless. We went, we got loud, we invented the OOD and FTB (well, one guy did but still) and we pressured Currie to make sure he got paid. we also pushed for the practice facility. To take a lateral (at best) move because he has a beef with his boss means he is a dick. straight up dick. It means what we did is worth jack crap in his eyes. I would take it as a personal insult.
I don't care of Currie is to blame for making poor Frank mad. GET. OVER. IT.
Don't run away to SC because I can guarantee, it will be the last stop on the coaching "ladder"
No one will touch him after this unless he takes SC to a FF. Which wont happen.
We didn't do that stuff for Frank, we did it for us. If BTK was a good basketball coach after what we went through the previous 15 years we would have done the same things.
Those of you mad about the fact that this is USC, would you still be mad if they paid him $2 mil before bonuses?
yes, would still be mad up to probably 2.5 million before bonuses, after that I could probably reason myself into thinking Frank left for more money
If Frank left for a better program, or more money, I'd reconsider. But he isn't. You and I both know SC isn't paying Frank 2 mill.
This
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Even though we didn't get many 5/4 star recruits, I liked getting all the mentions, it made me feel important.
I just can't get excited about the mysterywestafricanthatgrewupplayingvolleyballbuthasalotofrawability and the Quentin Buchanans of the world :cry:
Currie may have mumped this up to whatever degree but I don't think he's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) enough to go hire Wooly 2.0. JMO.
'Cept that we might not be swimming in better options
yeah. he doesn't get to just go to the coach store and buy a new coach. plus I'm just so sure that another coach would just love to come work for a guy that the previous coach hated so much that he left to take a lesser job just to get away from the guy. Jesus guys.
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currie will come out of this golden, his propaganda people have been doing amazing work
from what i heard tonight currie is already planting negative stories on Frank
Examples?
the story that there is this weird animation of him being pimpish and dancing and smiling like a goddam jerk, for starters:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn590%2Fchunkles22%2Femotes%2Fmaker-of-men.gif&hash=e541a2e799208c91bd1b51d0d92351974dd4717b)
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If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.
The 18-40 year old fanbase of KSU galvanized behind him and supported him regardless. We went, we got loud, we invented the OOD and FTB (well, one guy did but still) and we pressured Currie to make sure he got paid. we also pushed for the practice facility. To take a lateral (at best) move because he has a beef with his boss means he is a dick. straight up dick. It means what we did is worth jack crap in his eyes. I would take it as a personal insult.
I don't care of Currie is to blame for making poor Frank mad. GET. OVER. IT.
Don't run away to SC because I can guarantee, it will be the last stop on the coaching "ladder"
No one will touch him after this unless he takes SC to a FF. Which wont happen.
We didn't do that stuff for Frank, we did it for us. If BTK was a good basketball coach after what we went through the previous 15 years we would have done the same things.
Those of you mad about the fact that this is USC, would you still be mad if they paid him $2 mil before bonuses?
Of course we did it for us, and having a program we wanted. How does that change crap? we showed the kind of support that there will never be at SC. It benefited Frank to the tune of 6 figures that none of us (besides Beems) make every year.
If Frank left for a better program, or more money, I'd reconsider. But he isn't. You and I both know SC isn't paying Frank 2 mill.
Limestone, you know full well that if he wins at USC they will support him. Everything we think about USC was us before Huggins came to town. We both sat through plenty of conference games with 5000 of our closest friends.
You can't compare the 2 jobs at current levels. There have been plenty of comparisons between the 2 programs in this thread.
If he leaves it is for spite over one guy. ONE GUY.
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Yeah, we will be fighting for coach scraps with Dr. Tom.
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God my avatar has been spot on for the last 2 weeks :gocho:
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Oh cool, ku gets to play UNC down a man and we get to look for a new coach. Seems fair.
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If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.
The 18-40 year old fanbase of KSU galvanized behind him and supported him regardless. We went, we got loud, we invented the OOD and FTB (well, one guy did but still) and we pressured Currie to make sure he got paid. we also pushed for the practice facility. To take a lateral (at best) move because he has a beef with his boss means he is a dick. straight up dick. It means what we did is worth jack crap in his eyes. I would take it as a personal insult.
I don't care of Currie is to blame for making poor Frank mad. GET. OVER. IT.
Don't run away to SC because I can guarantee, it will be the last stop on the coaching "ladder"
No one will touch him after this unless he takes SC to a FF. Which wont happen.
We didn't do that stuff for Frank, we did it for us. If BTK was a good basketball coach after what we went through the previous 15 years we would have done the same things.
Those of you mad about the fact that this is USC, would you still be mad if they paid him $2 mil before bonuses?
Of course we did it for us, and having a program we wanted. How does that change crap? we showed the kind of support that there will never be at SC. It benefited Frank to the tune of 6 figures that none of us (besides Beems) make every year.
If Frank left for a better program, or more money, I'd reconsider. But he isn't. You and I both know SC isn't paying Frank 2 mill.
I don't think they'll be able to after paying $3.4 million in buyouts to Horn and KSU.
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It really sickens me what these two fools have done to our program and school. Pettiness, spite and greed. And we're the victims.
Currie and Frank are absolutely despicable. Both of them, equally.
This a great school, proud basketball program, and tremendously loyal fans and good people that deserve far better than either of these two rough ridin' assholes.
All the support and energy and hard earned financial investment we've all poured in. To see this. It's truly disgusting.
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It really sickens me what these two fools have done to our program and school. Pettiness, spite and greed. And we're the victims.
Currie and Frank are absolutely despicable. Both of them, equally.
This a great school, proud basketball program, and tremendously loyal fans and good people that deserve far better than either of these two rough ridin' assholes.
All the support and energy and hard earned financial investment we've all poured in. To see this. It's truly disgusting.
As I said to GFA in another thread, I think it's fair to be disgusted with everyone in this mess.
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It really sickens me what these two fools have done to our program and school. Pettiness, spite and greed. And we're the victims.
Currie and Frank are absolutely despicable. Both of them, equally.
This a great school, proud basketball program, and tremendously loyal fans and good people that deserve far better than either of these two rough ridin' assholes.
All the support and energy and hard earned financial investment we've all poured in. To see this. It's truly disgusting.
Yep. We always have those moments where we are reminded that KSU basketball is more important to us as fans than it is to the people involved, and it stings.
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lol who the eff is this guy?
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The reality of this situation is even though we all think Currie and Frank are doing this in the name of "career advancement" they are both killing their chances at that big time job they both are now convinced they deserve.
If Frank goes to USC, he has to get to at least to 1 final 4 (and a few E8s) and has to win the confy if he wants to advance. and it will never happen there. It just won't because it NEVER HAS.
and Currie ran off his most successful basketball coach who left for South Carolina. A downgrade. He is a horrible AD because he ran off his best men's basketball coach.
They are both stuck together for now unless one of them is dumb enough to go lateral, which is a death sentence in the business.
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lol who the eff is this guy?
twitter sock
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I can't find Anya's twitter. Does she have a twitter?
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2.5 is way too much, currie is a huge dumbass
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lol who the eff is this guy?
Ready to out my source. It's my ass hole. #lies #rumors #bullshit
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The reality of this situation is even though we all think Currie and Frank are doing this in the name of "career advancement" they are both killing their chances at that big time job they both are now convinced they deserve.
If Frank goes to USC, he has to get to at least to 1 final 4 (and a few E8s) and has to win the confy if he wants to advance. and it will never happen there. It just won't because it NEVER HAS.
and Currie ran off his most successful basketball coach who left for South Carolina. A downgrade. He is a horrible AD because he ran off his best men's basketball coach.
They are both stuck together for now unless one of them is dumb enough to go lateral, which is a death sentence in the business.
Yeah I feel like they are a dark, 21st century O. Henry story.
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It really sickens me what these two fools have done to our program and school. Pettiness, spite and greed. And we're the victims.
Currie and Frank are absolutely despicable. Both of them, equally.
This a great school, proud basketball program, and tremendously loyal fans and good people that deserve far better than either of these two rough ridin' assholes.
All the support and energy and hard earned financial investment we've all poured in. To see this. It's truly disgusting.
Kidding right? All Frank has done for the school and the program is make it as relevant as it ever has been. How do you not realize that all of this butthurt is BECAUSE of what Frank has done for the school and program?
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Source indicating Kansas State's Martin to ink 10-yr $25 million deal with KSU. KSUAD Currie pressured by donors to act swiftly. # KStateMBB
lol who the eff is this guy?
Katz, playing both sides. He is the best
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People blaming frank for anything are hayseeds that have a complex about people moving on trip better themselves
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http://m.cjonline.com/sports/2012-03-23/kevin-haskin-so-carolina-job-may-intrigue-martin (http://m.cjonline.com/sports/2012-03-23/kevin-haskin-so-carolina-job-may-intrigue-martin)
Haskins doing my light lifting.
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People blaming frank for anything are hayseeds that have a complex about people moving on trip better themselves
There is no way I can read that sentence to make it make sense.
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@NCAASportsGuy: Source: Officiating crew for #kubball #ncstate game left cocaine residue & evidence of murdered prostitute in St. Louis hotel suite. #NCAA
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# KStateMBB coach Frank Martin declines interview with So Carolina. Source says Martin "feels KSU is on verge of becoming elite program".
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Official announcement pending re: Martin KSU contract. Martin's travel to NY is on KSU dime, agreement in principal in place. # KStateMBB
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Source indicating Kansas State's Martin to ink 10-yr $25 million deal with KSU. KSUAD Currie pressured by donors to act swiftly. # KStateMBB
lol who the eff is this guy?
$25 mil over 10 years? love it if true, just like the contract Buzz has at Marquette :thumbs:
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http://m.cjonline.com/sports/2012-03-23/kevin-haskin-so-carolina-job-may-intrigue-martin (http://m.cjonline.com/sports/2012-03-23/kevin-haskin-so-carolina-job-may-intrigue-martin)
Haskins doing my light lifting.
Even "light lifting" doesn't mean "laziest piece of crap printed about the subject"
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I just can't fathom Frank leaving a program like K-State for South Carolina. I really hope the long-term contract rumor with K-State is true. I love having Frank here in the Big 12 and in the state of Kansas. TSC, my friends.
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http://m.cjonline.com/sports/2012-03-23/kevin-haskin-so-carolina-job-may-intrigue-martin (http://m.cjonline.com/sports/2012-03-23/kevin-haskin-so-carolina-job-may-intrigue-martin)
Haskins doing my light lifting.
Even "light lifting" doesn't mean "laziest piece of crap printed about the subject"
lol
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I am on the verge of tears. Are we that cursed? Wtf?
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I am on the verge of tears. Are we that cursed? Wtf?
Yes.
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i swear, it is amazing how little insight into the human mind most of you people seem to have. do any of you really think that making 2.0 million vs 1.5 million has more impact on your daily happiness than working for someone who, at the very least, likes you enough to hire you vs someone you detest and who detests you?
i'll never judge someone for leaving a job due to a hateful relationship. or even a mildly uncomfortable one. and i find the idea that excess money is more important than your relationships with coworkers to be laughable in it's idiocy.
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i swear, it is amazing how little insight into the human mind most of you people seem to have. do any of you really think that making 2.0 million vs 1.5 million has more impact on your daily happiness than working for someone who, at the very least, likes you enough to hire you vs someone you detest and who detests you?
i'll never judge someone for leaving a job due to a hateful relationship. or even a mildly uncomfortable one. and i find the idea that excess money is more important than your relationships with coworkers to be laughable in it's idiocy.
depends how much taxes you pay I think.
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"Never fear, Bosco is here."
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Money in this case is a symbolic display of commitment and respect. But, I agree, the most important thing in terms of true happiness in any work environment are the relationships with those around you.
I guess the thing I can't reconcile, is that no matter how strong his dislike for Currie may be, he's almost universally loved and supported by this collective fan base. AD's come and go. He has all the support in the world from those that truly matter. And I wish he would take that into account.
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is this real life?
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i swear, it is amazing how little insight into the human mind most of you people seem to have. do any of you really think that making 2.0 million vs 1.5 million has more impact on your daily happiness than working for someone who, at the very least, likes you enough to hire you vs someone you detest and who detests you?
i'll never judge someone for leaving a job due to a hateful relationship. or even a mildly uncomfortable one. and i find the idea that excess money is more important than your relationships with coworkers to be laughable in it's idiocy.
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:thumbs:I am on the verge of tears. Are we that cursed? Wtf?
Yes.
I feel lost. This is depressing. We enjoy success. I can't deal with basketball pre huggins again
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is this real life?
No, it's just a bad dream. Go back to sleep. Tomorrow when you wake up, Kenny Kadji will be in a Wildcats uniform... :ksu:
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WTF is going on? Is Frank gone or what?
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WTF is going on? Is Frank gone or what?
:confused:
In a way, we all are.
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http://www.dixiefriedsports.com/Frank_Martin_Watch.html
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WTF is going on? Is Frank gone or what?
:confused:
Frank died and USC is paying his estate like 3 million a year to pull a "Weekend at Bernie's" with his corpse.
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http://www.dixiefriedsports.com/Frank_Martin_Watch.html
it would be nice if goEMAW's work wasn't routinely stolen by the media
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http://www.dixiefriedsports.com/Frank_Martin_Watch.html
That is just awful presentation. Site looks like it was designed by a fourth grader.
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http://www.dixiefriedsports.com/Frank_Martin_Watch.html
Interesting that Groce's name has come up somehow in their search.
I guess at this point, once Frank is gone, my preference is A) find some way to get Pearl, or B) maybe approach Groce. He apparently makes 300k now after incentives.
Groce does have a pretty good resume, though. Kind of Anthony Grant-ish at VCU:
Coaching Experience:
Ohio University (Head coach, 2008-Present)
Ohio State University (Associate head coach, 2006-08)
Ohio State University (Assistant coach, 2004-06)
Xavier University (Assistant coach, 2001-04)
Butler University (Assistant coach, 2000-01)
NC State University (Assistant coach, 1996-00)
Taylor University (Assistant coach, 1993-96)
NBA DRAFT PICKS COACHED BY JOHN GROCE
Greg Oden (First overall, Portland Trailblazers, 2007)
Evan Turner (Second overall, Philadelphia 76ers, 2010)
Mike Conley Jr. (Fourth overall, Memphis Grizzlies, 2007)
David West (18th overall, New Orleans Hornets, 2003)
Daequan Cook (21st overall, Miami Heat, 2007)
Kosta Koufas (23rd overall, Utah Jazz, 2008)
Lionel Chalmers (33rd overall, Los Angeles Clippers, 2004)
David Young (41st overall, Seattle SuperSonics, 2004)
Romain Sato (52nd overall, San Antonio Spurs, 2004)
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I truly, truly hate this time of year.
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It really sickens me what these two fools have done to our program and school. Pettiness, spite and greed. And we're the victims.
Currie and Frank are absolutely despicable. Both of them, equally.
This a great school, proud basketball program, and tremendously loyal fans and good people that deserve far better than either of these two rough ridin' assholes.
All the support and energy and hard earned financial investment we've all poured in. To see this. It's truly disgusting.
Kidding right? All Frank has done for the school and the program is make it as relevant as it ever has been. How do you not realize that all of this butthurt is BECAUSE of what Frank has done for the school and program?
I'm talking about this event occurring right now. At this moment in time he's being an irrational, vindictive mothereffer. What is transpiring right now is Frank trying to embarrass Currie. This has nothing to do with the past. All that's great with what he has built over the course of the last five years for this school and this program, he would be a complete dumbfuck to kick tom the curb, simply to run off to basketball purgatory in South Carolina so he can act out his vendetta to get back at his boss. IF he does that, he's every bit of a loathsome, selfish bad person as Currie.
That's not being butthurt, that's the truth.
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rough ridin' crap. Let ksu basketball be alright. All I care about. If that is with frank,wonderful if not then eff frank and I hope and pray we can still be good. My only concern. I am on my knees praying for this
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It really sickens me what these two fools have done to our program and school. Pettiness, spite and greed. And we're the victims.
Currie and Frank are absolutely despicable. Both of them, equally.
This a great school, proud basketball program, and tremendously loyal fans and good people that deserve far better than either of these two rough ridin' assholes.
All the support and energy and hard earned financial investment we've all poured in. To see this. It's truly disgusting.
Kidding right? All Frank has done for the school and the program is make it as relevant as it ever has been. How do you not realize that all of this butthurt is BECAUSE of what Frank has done for the school and program?
I'm talking about this event occurring right now. At this moment in time he's being an irrational, vindictive mothereffer. What is transpiring right now is Frank trying to embarrass Currie. This has nothing to do with the past. All that's great with what he has built over the course of the last five years for this school and this program, he would be a complete dumbfuck to kick tom the curb, simply to run off to basketball purgatory in South Carolina so he can act out his vendetta to get back at his boss. IF he does that, he's every bit of a loathsome, selfish bad person as Currie.
That's not being butthurt, that's the truth.
Lots of negative assumptions. Just to embarrass Currie? Really? Isn't it easier to think he's pissed and wants to move on? He's going to start over again to embarrass someone?
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Frank throwing a hissy fit by up and leaving is pathetic. If he does up and leave and this all turns out to be true then eff frank. Grow Up bad person
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http://www.dixiefriedsports.com/Frank_Martin_Watch.html
Received word from someone strong on the KSU side of things that Martin's breaking point with KSU AD Currie could have been the letter he sent Wednesday 3/21(see above). In the letter Currie says the NCAA suspended Jamar Samuels, but it was Currie who did so. An already poor relationship could have been fractured more by this letter, the KSU individual states.
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Frank might be mad, but he's not going anywhere. Don't get too worried bros.
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Lots of negative assumptions. Just to embarrass Currie? Really? Isn't it easier to think he's pissed and wants to move on? He's going to start over again to embarrass someone?
Easier to be pissed at what?
The terrazzo is too nice in his new Taj Mahal practice facility? The fans love him too much? The program is on too good a footing? The returning team next here has too good of a shot at a league title?
You don't willingly leave a program like K-State for basketball purgatory in South Carolina because you just want to "move on".
IF this happens, this is about one thing. His hatred for Currie. I know enough about this situation talking to people much closer to the program than me to say this declaratively.
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are people really worried about south carolina? really?
this is what I can't understand. if he actually went there, the situation here must have been so toxic, that it has to be good for all parties included.
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are people really worried about south carolina? really?
this is what I can't understand. if he actually went there, the situation here must have been so toxic, that it has to be good for all parties included.
Except for the party that is EMAW since every potential coach in america will wonder why in the world anyone would leave KSU for South Carolina
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i swear, it is amazing how little insight into the human mind most of you people seem to have. do any of you really think that making 2.0 million vs 1.5 million has more impact on your daily happiness than working for someone who, at the very least, likes you enough to hire you vs someone you detest and who detests you?
i'll never judge someone for leaving a job due to a hateful relationship. or even a mildly uncomfortable one. and i find the idea that excess money is more important than your relationships with coworkers to be laughable in it's idiocy.
:thumbs:
This is the perfect example of someone who has no insight in to the human mind. $500k could make David Duke befriend Jesse Jackson, and both of them have plenty of money.
Sometimes I wonder if Sys is actually a woman.
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This is currie's fault you dumbass hayseeds
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If South Carolina begin formal talks with Martin, it won’t be the first time Martin has been involved in another coaching search. Sources said Martin turned down offers from DePaul and Oregon following K-State’s run to the Elite Eight in 2010. Sources said both schools offered as much as $2 million per year.
Last season, he was linked to openings at UNLV and Miami. He did little to end speculation about him accepting those jobs, but never appeared to be a serious candidate.
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2012/03/23/2268400/south-carolina-asks-to-speak-with.html#storylink=cpy
All of those jobs are so much better than SC, it just makes me wonder wtf Frank is thinking.
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Frank leaves...Currie will forever be viewed as the bad guy. Forever.
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Frank leaves...Currie will forever be viewed as the bad guy. Forever.
I haven't made up my mind on that yet. When I do, that will be the official stance.
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Frank leaves...Currie will forever be viewed as the bad guy. Forever.
I haven't made up my mind on that yet. When I do, that will be the official stance.
Its not about your take. That will be the general consensus. When in reality they are both to blame for being shortsighted and petty.
and in the end, your average fan gets to go back to begging to get off the NIT bubble. We thought this year was rough? Imagine getting blown out @Baylor, @ MU, and losing a squeaker at home vs. Ostate....because that is the future. Alot of SLTH's out there looking to tag a pseudo-elite program like Kstate for a $1 million/year contract they know they don't deserve.
Spring game in 5 weeks.
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Frank leaves...Currie will forever be viewed as the bad guy. Forever.
I imagine we'll view him a lot like St. Louis fans view Don Dinkinger, except that we'll never win multiple World Series and be really happy about being good.
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Frank leaves...Currie will forever be viewed as the bad guy. Forever.
depends on who he hires, winning fixes everything
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Frank leaves...Currie will forever be viewed as the bad guy. Forever.
depends on who he hires, winning fixes everything
LMAO at him hiring a coach that will replicate the last 5 years. don't be ignorant.
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currie needs to say, "look, frank. enough with the bullshit. don't insult my intelligence. if you want a raise, come talk to me. but i'm not going to give you more money just because you put on this stupid charade at the end of every year."
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currie needs to say, "look, frank. enough with the bullshit. don't insult my intelligence. if you want a raise, come talk to me. but i'm not going to give you more money just because you put on this stupid charade at the end of every year."
Do you think he's already done this? I'd love to know. Then Frank's, like, "I'M SERIOUSLY GOING TO DO IT THIS TIME!" and Currie's, like, "OK, good luck" and then Frank's, like, "I'M NOT EVEN rough ridin' WITH YOU, I'M GONE!" and then "OK, you already said that".....
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So did Currie lie? When I first read his letter, I thought the NCAA was responsible for JamSam's suspension.
Quote:
After working throughout Friday night and Saturday morning, and consulting with the NCAA staff, it was determined that a violation had occurred, thus rendering Jamar ineligible to compete. During the first half we learned that Jamar would not be reinstated. We would have continued the reinstatement effort had we won the game and proceeded to the next round.
This certainly implies it was the NCAA that suspended him -- but wait, "it was determined" does not necessarily mean "the NCAA determined." However, if it was KSU and not NCAA that suspended him, what the heck does "we learned he would not be reinstated" mean?
If NCAA suspended him, we were stuck
If Currie or compliance suspended him, they can just explain they were doing what they determined to be in KSU's best interests
BUT if AD office suspended him, then followed up by issuing a statement saying the NCAA suspended him....or even worse, gave some legalese "I didn't have sexual relations with that woman" statement purposefully designed to mislead people....surely we will be in the market for a new AD regardless of what happens with Frank
That's all pretty obvious, isn't it?
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what in that is a lie? do you know what a lie is?
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Frank might be mad, but he's not going anywhere. Don't get too worried bros.
All I know is that manutz is not worried and that's good enough for me. I'm officially on the not worried list...
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Currie suspended him before the ncaa had time to rule on it. the ncaa can't do anything in a week.
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Hey K-State. LET'S DO THIS!
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Frank leaves...Currie will forever be viewed as the bad guy. Forever.
depends on who he hires, winning fixes everything
you're probably correct but this hire will define his career. Currie is an ambitious guy, he has to of been preparing for this for a long time. He might have a home run hire in him :pray:
LMAO at him hiring a coach that will replicate the last 5 years. don't be ignorant.
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Currie suspended him before the ncaa had time to rule on it. the ncaa can't do anything in a week.
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Hey K-State. LET'S DO THIS!
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So the last time I checked the boards yesterday evening there were like 26 pages in this thread. Anything relevant actually happen, or just a bunch of mindless speculation? Cliffs?
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So the last time I checked the boards yesterday evening there were like 26 pages in this thread. Anything relevant actually happen, or just a bunch of mindless speculation? Cliffs?
:flush:
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If all this nicey nice with the ncaa results in goodwill towards getting pearl out of ncaa hell a year early, it's somehow a good move all told. Pearl's ceiling is higher imo.
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So the last time I checked the boards yesterday evening there were like 26 pages in this thread. Anything relevant actually happen, or just a bunch of mindless speculation? Cliffs?
Frank got hired at USC. Flying to LA today for the presser.
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So the last time I checked the boards yesterday evening there were like 26 pages in this thread. Anything relevant actually happen, or just a bunch of mindless speculation? Cliffs?
If you can't BBS on nights like conference Armageddon or Frank to USC, you have to check your priorities
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So the last time I checked the boards yesterday evening there were like 26 pages in this thread. Anything relevant actually happen, or just a bunch of mindless speculation? Cliffs?
:flush:
God damnit i'm sorry! Was too busy getting pak'd and TSCing to read the boards. eff.
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currie needs to say, "look, frank. enough with the bullshit. don't insult my intelligence. if you want a raise, come talk to me. but i'm not going to give you more money just because you put on this stupid charade at the end of every year."
Do you think he's already done this? I'd love to know. Then Frank's, like, "I'M SERIOUSLY GOING TO DO IT THIS TIME!" and Currie's, like, "OK, good luck" and then Frank's, like, "I'M NOT EVEN rough ridin' WITH YOU, I'M GONE!" and then "OK, you already said that".....
"do what you need to do. you know where to find me if you want to talk."
("do what you need to do" is probably my best power move.)
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No way Currie could ever find a coach who could replace Frank. I mean, have you ever looked at Frank's resume? Dude is clearly the best we can do so we better hope that Currie caves into his demands this time. (And next spring and the spring after that and the spring after that...)
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No way Currie could ever find a coach who could replace Frank. I mean, have you ever looked at Frank's resume? Dude is clearly the best we can do so we better hope that Currie caves into his demands this time. (And next spring and the spring after that and the spring after that...)
Agreed. The $23M we made this year should be able to cover his escalating salary for at least 6 more years.
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currie needs to say, "look, frank. enough with the bullshit. don't insult my intelligence. if you want a raise, come talk to me. but i'm not going to give you more money just because you put on this stupid charade at the end of every year."
Do you think he's already done this? I'd love to know. Then Frank's, like, "I'M SERIOUSLY GOING TO DO IT THIS TIME!" and Currie's, like, "OK, good luck" and then Frank's, like, "I'M NOT EVEN rough ridin' WITH YOU, I'M GONE!" and then "OK, you already said that".....
"do what you need to do. you know where to find me if you want to talk."
("do what you need to do" is probably my best power move.)
yes, that is a very good one
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6 years ago who had even heard of frank?
5 years ago who thought he was head coach material (other than to save beasley)?
can catch lightning in a bottle again?
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If all this nicey nice with the ncaa results in goodwill towards getting pearl out of ncaa hell a year early, it's somehow a good move all told. Pearl's ceiling is higher imo.
Their major college coaching accomplishments are nearly identical and Pearl had the luxury of coaching against UK when they sucked and the SEC was never as good as the Big 12 was at its worst. That being said I like Pearl, but there is no evidence that he is a better coach than Frank Martin.
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If all this nicey nice with the ncaa results in goodwill towards getting pearl out of ncaa hell a year early, it's somehow a good move all told. Pearl's ceiling is higher imo.
Their major college coaching accomplishments are nearly identical and Pearl had the luxury of coaching against UK when they sucked and the SEC was never as good as the Big 12 was at its worst. That being said I like Pearl, but there is no evidence that he is a better coach than Frank Martin.
But Pearl is under a bigger shadow. I'd stick w/ Frank between the two.
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i swear, it is amazing how little insight into the human mind most of you people seem to have. do any of you really think that making 2.0 million vs 1.5 million has more impact on your daily happiness than working for someone who, at the very least, likes you enough to hire you vs someone you detest and who detests you?
i'll never judge someone for leaving a job due to a hateful relationship. or even a mildly uncomfortable one. and i find the idea that excess money is more important than your relationships with coworkers to be laughable in it's idiocy.
sys, if we're ever living in the same place, we're forging a degree and employment history for you that qualifies you to run the office. Hell, maybe even to be on BSAC's counsel of attorneys.
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IF this happens, this is about one thing. His hatred for Currie.
Yes. I don't like Currie either.
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i swear, it is amazing how little insight into the human mind most of you people seem to have. do any of you really think that making 2.0 million vs 1.5 million has more impact on your daily happiness than working for someone who, at the very least, likes you enough to hire you vs someone you detest and who detests you?
i'll never judge someone for leaving a job due to a hateful relationship. or even a mildly uncomfortable one. and i find the idea that excess money is more important than your relationships with coworkers to be laughable in it's idiocy.
It's not just the money, it's the fact that Frank has built up a shitload of goodwill with the fans and has built a program set up to sustain that goodwill for a long, long time. Also, unless he looks at South Carolina as a destination job, he's probably adding a few years to his next shot at some of the best jobs in the country.
Another Elite Eight run or two at KSU, which is very feasible in the next 2-3 years if he can keep the roster somewhat together, could make it so a program the level of Illinois doesn't mush him next time their jobs come up.
And jesus christ, Currie isn't Lumberg. If you hate him, just don't talk to him. Go win big, then take a job that is truly better in a year or two.
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Currie isn't Lumberg.
I enjoyed that
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From yesterday afternoon, :lol:
http://sportstalkgolive.com/index.php/2012/03/23/sportstalk-rewind-3-23-12-kc-stars-kent-babb-talks-martin-audio/
SportsTalk learned Friday that the next South Carolina head basketball coach will be Kansas State’s Frank Martin. Kent Babb, a reporter for the Kansas City Star who covers the Wildcats, talked with us on SportsTalk about Martin.
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From yesterday afternoon, :lol:
http://sportstalkgolive.com/index.php/2012/03/23/sportstalk-rewind-3-23-12-kc-stars-kent-babb-talks-martin-audio/
SportsTalk learned Friday that the next South Carolina head basketball coach will be Kansas State’s Frank Martin. Kent Babb, a reporter for the Kansas City Star who covers the Wildcats, talked with us on SportsTalk about Martin.
wow, how stupid is Babb. :lol:
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Michigancat seems to be the most on target poster in this fiasco. If Currie can't keep Frank from this suicidal move then he is a complete incompetent at his primary function and Frank is an irrational idiot.
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From yesterday afternoon, :lol:
http://sportstalkgolive.com/index.php/2012/03/23/sportstalk-rewind-3-23-12-kc-stars-kent-babb-talks-martin-audio/
SportsTalk learned Friday that the next South Carolina head basketball coach will be Kansas State’s Frank Martin. Kent Babb, a reporter for the Kansas City Star who covers the Wildcats, talked with us on SportsTalk about Martin.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=10771.0
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oh man, I love it when the SC radio guys try to figure out his timeline while reading his wikipedia page.
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I am now very worried. I think he's gone. :bawl: (ftp://:bawl:)
I hate you Currie. :angry: :shakesfist: (ftp://:angry: :shakesfist:)
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Why do I hate Frank more than Currie right now? I'm just feeling emotional I think.
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Why do I hate Frank more than Currie right now? I'm just feeling emotional I think.
Because you loved him more to begin with
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Why do I hate Frank more than Currie right now? I'm just feeling emotional I think.
If Frank leaves, you should hate both equally.
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From yesterday afternoon, :lol:
http://sportstalkgolive.com/index.php/2012/03/23/sportstalk-rewind-3-23-12-kc-stars-kent-babb-talks-martin-audio/
SportsTalk learned Friday that the next South Carolina head basketball coach will be Kansas State’s Frank Martin. Kent Babb, a reporter for the Kansas City Star who covers the Wildcats, talked with us on SportsTalk about Martin.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=10771.0
Yep. I remember twitter fighting with him after Kellis' JakeCriedGate.
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oh man, I love it when the SC radio guys try to figure out his timeline while reading his wikipedia page.
So, uh, I guess he had this job before getting his degree? Maybe a military stint? Anyway.
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If all this nicey nice with the ncaa results in goodwill towards getting pearl out of ncaa hell a year early, it's somehow a good move all told. Pearl's ceiling is higher imo.
Their major college coaching accomplishments are nearly identical and Pearl had the luxury of coaching against UK when they sucked and the SEC was never as good as the Big 12 was at its worst. That being said I like Pearl, but there is no evidence that he is a better coach than Frank Martin.
Tennessee was the UK of the SEC when Pearl was there bad conference or not. Not saying he's a better coach than Frankfurter either, but there wouldn't be a drop off. I'm not expecting us to overtake KU ever in terms of conference domination, but at least he'd give us a more immediate shot.
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If all this nicey nice with the ncaa results in goodwill towards getting pearl out of ncaa hell a year early, it's somehow a good move all told. Pearl's ceiling is higher imo.
Their major college coaching accomplishments are nearly identical and Pearl had the luxury of coaching against UK when they sucked and the SEC was never as good as the Big 12 was at its worst. That being said I like Pearl, but there is no evidence that he is a better coach than Frank Martin.
Tennessee was the UK of the SEC when Pearl was there bad conference or not. Not saying he's a better coach than Frankfurter either, but there wouldn't be a drop off. I'm not expecting us to overtake KU ever in terms of conference domination, but at least he'd give us a more immediate shot.
Can he defeat a triangle and 2 defense?
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GET IT THROUGH YOUR rough ridin' SKULLS, oscar PEARL IS NOT GOING TO EVER BE OUR rough ridin' BASKETBALL COACH!!!
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GET IT THROUGH YOUR rough ridin' SKULLS, oscar PEARL IS NOT GOING TO EVER BE OUR rough ridin' BASKETBALL COACH!!!
This doesnt make any sense.
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GET IT THROUGH YOUR rough ridin' SKULLS, BOB HUGGINS IS NOT GOING TO EVER BE OUR rough ridin' BASKETBALL COACH!!!
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GET IT THROUGH YOUR rough ridin' SKULLS, oscar PEARL IS NOT GOING TO EVER BE OUR rough ridin' BASKETBALL COACH!!!
Yep. Or as my high school girlfriend would say, "yeppers."
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GET IT THROUGH YOUR rough ridin' SKULLS, oscar PEARL IS NOT GOING TO EVER BE OUR rough ridin' BASKETBALL COACH!!!
Yep. Or as my high school girlfriend would say, "yeppers."
Let me beat you all to the punch... I don't date girls that are in high school. :fatty:
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GET IT THROUGH YOUR rough ridin' SKULLS, oscar PEARL IS NOT GOING TO EVER BE OUR rough ridin' BASKETBALL COACH!!!
This guy knows what he is talking about.
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for you dumb fucks.....John currie will never hire oscar Pearl......Don't do this yourselves
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for you dumb fucks.....John currie will never hire oscar Pearl......Don't do this yourselves
are we talking about the same john currie?
Currie's the main reason oscar Pearl is the basketball coach.
http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/71711-john-currie-kansas-state.html
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Anyone suspending a Senior in the NCAA Tourney for 200 bucks is not gonna hire a cool coach
Checklist for next coach when Currie hires
A) White
B) Religious
C) Midwestern
D) 2 Star recruiter
E) Boring
Welcome to Manhattan Scott Sutton
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Anyone suspending a Senior in the NCAA Tourney for 200 bucks is not gonna hire a cool coach
HE ALREADY HAS YOU DUMBFUCK
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Anyone suspending a Senior in the NCAA Tourney for 200 bucks is not gonna hire a cool coach
HE ALREADY HAS YOU DUMBFUCK
:lol:
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michigancat really going after the Ellster with that one
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Anyone suspending a Senior in the NCAA Tourney for 200 bucks is not gonna hire a cool coach
HE ALREADY HAS YOU DUMBFUCK
:bawl:
Ellster, is tough, old, bald and friends with Jack Harry
Got the big time connections
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Anyone suspending a Senior in the NCAA Tourney for 200 bucks is not gonna hire a cool coach
Checklist for next coach when Currie hires
A) White
B) Religious
C) Midwestern
D) 2 Star recruiter
E) Boring
Welcome to Manhattan Scott Sutton
Everything Currie has done to this point, the Pullen/Kelly crap, the Jamar stuff, not extending him again, etc. are all justifiable ways he can use to run Martin out of town.
I don't believe for one second that Currie would do what he's done to Frank to Pearl.
Or, as michigan has already stated, he was basically running the basketball ship when Pearl was ignoring the NCAA while he was at UT.
Also, I think michigan was the one that theorized that all of this hyper-compliance props up a case for Pearl to get reinstated before his show cause is up.
I honestly felt like Currie has always been biding his time until he could get Pearl in here somehow. I just figured we'd have to wait until Frank made another nice run or two and got a better job. I didn't anticipate him committing career suicide before the show cause was up.
But, now that we're on an accelerated timeline...giddy up.
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Oh man . . . Oh man oh man.
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If all this nicey nice with the ncaa results in goodwill towards getting pearl out of ncaa hell a year early, it's somehow a good move all told. Pearl's ceiling is higher imo.
Their major college coaching accomplishments are nearly identical and Pearl had the luxury of coaching against UK when they sucked and the SEC was never as good as the Big 12 was at its worst. That being said I like Pearl, but there is no evidence that he is a better coach than Frank Martin.
Tennessee was the UK of the SEC when Pearl was there bad conference or not.
Uh, he won 1 conference championship and had 1 elite 8 in six years. He'd get run at UK for that.
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Can't Currie get assigned to running KSU-Olathe or something? How long is Animal and Bosco's business lunch at OG gonna last?
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Michigancat seems to be the most on target poster in this fiasco. If Currie can't keep Frank from this suicidal move then he is a complete incompetent at his primary function and Frank is an irrational idiot.
Equal opportunity hating, there's enough to go around for everyone here
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Not saying Frank isn't capable of being an irrational idiot, but he wins the basketball games, so I want him
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How much of a boss would Bosco be as an AD?
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How much of a boss would Bosco be as an AD?
THE rough ridin' boss.
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How much of a boss would Bosco be as an AD?
THE rough ridin' boss.
Csourk raised an interesting point on FB chat shortly ago.
Is Quinn Snyder ready to make his triumphant return to College BB?
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I'm just going to throw this name out there and I want you to just say the first thing that comes to your mind:
Paul Westhead.
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How much of a boss would Bosco be as an AD?
THE rough ridin' boss.
Csourk raised an interesting point on FB chat shortly ago.
Is Quinn Snyder ready to make his triumphant return to College BB?
I called for him the other thread about potential coaches. Would love.
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I'm just going to throw this name out there and I want you to just say the first thing that comes to your mind:
Paul Westhead.
a silver streak on the side of his hair mostly dark hair. Not sure why.
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I'm just going to throw this name out there and I want you to just say the first thing that comes to your mind:
Paul Westhead.
a silver streak on the side of his hair mostly dark hair. Not sure why.
Sounds like a maybe from ole iron oxide over there!
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How much of a boss would Bosco be as an AD?
:thumbs:
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I'm just going to throw this name out there and I want you to just say the first thing that comes to your mind:
Paul Westhead.
Paul Westhead
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Pat Bosco? More like Pat Bossco.
yeah, it took me a while.
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Pat Bosco? More like Pat Bossco.
Jamie Vaughn? More like Jamie Gone.
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I'm just going to throw this name out there and I want you to just say the first thing that comes to your mind:
Paul Westhead.
120 ppg
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Is he alive?
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Pat Bosco? More like Pat Bossco.
Jamie Vaughn? More like Jamie Gone.
Rumblings that he hates KSU
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Pat Bosco? More like Pat Bossco.
Jamie Vaughn? More like Jamie Gone.
:thumbs:
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Pat Bosco? More like Pat Bossco.
Jamie Vaughn? More like Jamie Gone.
Rumblings that he hates KSU
He's better cut out for Gordon Biersch middle management.
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sbnation
Update
Frank Martin To South Carolina Rumors: Could Jamar Samuels' Suspension Play A Part?
Somewhere in the mix of rumors and reports is the truth about a link between Kansas State men’s basketball head coach Frank Martin and the South Carolina Gamecocks athletic department. Martin explains that he’s spoken with no one about any new job, so it’s likely the interest in one-sided at this point. But it’s clear that Martin is a wanted man.
This happens year after year after making K-State into a solid, stable program that wins 22-plus games and advances at least one or two rounds into the tournament. For a man playing second fiddle under the looming shadow of Bill Self’s top ranked program in Lawrence, Martin has done a fine job. It’s the reason that South Carolina has reportedly come calling — likely with a lot of money in tow.
That said there’s no good reason on the surface why Martin would want to leave for the Gamecocks. They won 10 games last season and would require Martin to learn an entirely new region of the country. You can’t put a price on contacts in the game of recruiting and Martin would be starting from scratch. That said, everyone has their price .
But what if there was something underneath the surface for Martin — an emotion pitting him against his employer. Kellis Robinett of the Kansas City Star mentions this possibility when it comes to the school’s treatment of Jamar Samuels in the tournament:
Martin is scheduled to begin negotiations on a new K-State contract on April 1 with athletic director John Currie, but a source close to the basketball program said Martin was "very upset" with Currie’s decision to hold senior Jamar Samuels out of last week’s NCAA Tournament game against Syracuse, which K-State lost.
Samuels, sources said, was wired $200 by his former AAU coach. Currie said he found out about the possible NCAA violation between the Wildcats’ first and second NCAA Tournament games and made the decision to suspend Samuels.
Martin was very emotional after the game and the press conference was broadcasted everywhere for one reason — the touching authenticity of a coach who truly feels for his players. It’s clear he cares for Samuels, and it’s possible to read between the lines that he believed Samuels was treated unfairly. Enough to leave his job? That seems a bit dramatic yet it’s impossible to know all of the variables that might be at play.
That said, for now these are just rumors and this is not the first time or the first year that Martin has been included in them. He was mentioned for the Illinois opening and he’ll continue to be included in others. It comes with the program — a winning one — that he’s established at K-State.
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great scoop sbnation
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great scoop sbnation
you guys, do you think frank might be thinking of leaving because of a strained relationship with currie?
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great scoop sbnation
you guys, do you think might be thinking of leaving because of a strained relationship with currie?
I never thought of that before
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great scoop sbnation
you guys, do you think might be thinking of leaving because of a strained relationship with currie?
:surprised:
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Jamar wouldn't want Frank to leave. Stay for Jamar, Frank.
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Frank is killing it on CBS right now
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Well, the combofan experience was fun while it lasted. Lock up and turn the light out in this forum before you head over to the Old Ballsoleum.
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Frank is killing it on CBS right now
yes, this is FANTASTIC television. :thumbs:
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Frank is killing it on CBS right now
Wearing a purple tie. :dunno:
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He's gorgeous. This is just going to make it that much harder when he crushes our hearts :embarrassed:
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not wearing the K-State pin or Ft. Rileyo pin for his flair.
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How should we feel about him denying the USC stuff without really denying it? I'm still worried :frown:
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How should we feel about him denying the USC stuff without really denying it? I'm still worried :frown:
what else was he going to say? that he hates money or hates ksu? really his only two other options.
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He handled it fantastically. He's staying.
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Frank Martin talks about South Carolina, Jamar Samuels on CBS
Kansas State basketball coach Frank Martin touched on two very interesting topics less than a minute into his time as a studio analyst for CBS today. Here is a full transcript of what Martin had to say on his potential interest in South Carolina and his thoughts on Jamar Samuels missing his final game because of a reported $200 wire transfer from his former AAU coach.
Everyone is talking about you heading to South Carolina. Would you like to put that to rest right now?
In the age of social media that we live in right now, it’s crazy. I was scheduled to be at a press conference today in South Carolina and I was sitting watching a show in New York City last night. And obviously I’m sitting here with you guys today, so it’s … The stuff that gets out these days, I look at it as a compliment that we’re doing our job the right way at Kansas State that these sort of things get out.
Where are you going after the show today?
That’s my wife’s decision.
Sticking with the controversial theme here, let’s talk about Jamar Samuels and the suspension he served against Syracuse.
What’s happened is, you guys know having played college basketball, that rule book started about this big and it’s about this big right now. There are so many things our there. There are a lot of rules that don’t understand the culture of these kids and where they come from. Jamar walked into an unfortunate situation, because like I’ve told everybody, he didn’t ask an agent for money. He didn’t ask a booster for money. He didn’t take advantage of being a student-athlete, because he asked someone he met after he got into an NCAA institution for money. He asked a person who has been a father figure in his life since he was about 12 years of age. What is he supposed to do? I understand there are rules and you’ve got to protect institutions and you’ve got to keep amateur athletes amateur, I get all that and I’m all for doing things the right way. That’s why after the game I said he didn’t do anything wrong. When they put me in my grave that’s still going to be my opinion.
Not knowing all the ramifications I thought it was too severe a penalty … but suspending him was a school decision was it not?
It has to start with your school, once it gets on our school’s plate our administrators have to take action. You can’t act as if you don’t know. That becomes a problem. Our school did what it had to do. If I can add something here, I coached 16 years in the same inner city in Miami that I grew up in. Do you know how much money I sent to kids that played for me in high school when they were in college because I knew where they came from? I knew they didn’t have a father figure? I’m not going to tell you who they were, but I sent them a lot of money over the years to make sure they could take their girlfriend out to the movies, make sure they could wash their clothes and do all the things that scholarship money don’t cover. They don’t have an option. It’s not like they can work while they’re in college. They can’t find ways to make money. When there is no money at home, who is going to help these guys?
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He handled it fantastically.
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How should we feel about him denying the USC stuff without really denying it? I'm still worried :frown:
He didn't come close to denying it, he was closer to confirming it than denying it. The only thing we can take from that was remotely positive was he gave the appearance that he thought Currie's hands were tied with Jamar.
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How should we feel about him denying the USC stuff without really denying it? I'm still worried :frown:
what else was he going to say? that he hates money or hates ksu? really his only two other options.
You're totally right. Less worried. Thanks :emawkid:
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A purple-wearing guy who takes his family to jersey boys? I will love him forever. :love:
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He has mentioned KSU 3 times and referred to KSU as "we"
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A purple-wearing guy who takes his family to jersey boys? I will love him forever. :love:
I can find a way to round up hate for him....but it's going to be tough.
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How should we feel about him denying the USC stuff without really denying it? I'm still worried :frown:
He didn't come close to denying it, he was closer to confirming it than denying it. The only thing we can take from that was remotely positive was he gave the appearance that he thought Currie's hands were tied with Jamar.
No way. He handled it fantastically and he's staying. No way he does all that if he's leaving.
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How should we feel about him denying the USC stuff without really denying it? I'm still worried :frown:
He didn't come close to denying it, he was closer to confirming it than denying it. The only thing we can take from that was remotely positive was he gave the appearance that he thought Currie's hands were tied with Jamar.
No way. He handled it fantastically and he's staying. No way he does all that if he's leaving.
Katz has the easiest job on earth. Throw your client on national TV and watch him orchestrate with just a few words to have some people totally convinced he's staying and some totally convinced he's going. :driving:
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How should we feel about him denying the USC stuff without really denying it? I'm still worried :frown:
He didn't come close to denying it, he was closer to confirming it than denying it. The only thing we can take from that was remotely positive was he gave the appearance that he thought Currie's hands were tied with Jamar.
No way. He handled it fantastically and he's staying. No way he does all that if he's leaving.
does all what? act like he's a good employee that understands that a university has to do what it has to do? you don't know if he's saying that as a shout out to kstate or a "hey i'm a very understanding easy to work with guy" for possible future employers.
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exactly rd. what else was he going to say? it was the least relevant interview/statement ever. outside of the small chance he says something crazy/self-detrimental there was nothing that was going to be said that I couldn't have scripted. Now, psych pros could maybe have read something from it that someone like me couldn't but outside of that it was a waste of my time (other than me enjoying the crap out of watching him say it)
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Think I know who the townie snitch is. Obvious in hindsight.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.babble.com%2FCS%2Fblogs%2Fpoliticalnanny%2Fjesus.jpg&hash=0a6c6cedda4d6af8df17f758bafdb983da97dbca)
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From the USCjr message board:
I AM using common sense. You have to be pretty naive if you thought Martin seemed even remotely interested in SC by the comments he just made on national TV audience. I expect him to say he is 99% close to a deal with us like everyone here has been saying. What's funny is he called the social media clowns out by name. Our goose just got cooked. We are screwed once again.
I thought he was pretty cut and dry. He had the opportunity to make us look good and he did just the opposite.
i sincerely hope i'm wrong but i didn't get the vibe that he was leaving kstate & heading to carolina.
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I hope he and Chuck go out for beers later and Chuck is all, Carolina is so gay dude.
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I hope he and Chuck go out for beers later and Chuck is all, Carolina is so gay dude.
I laugh at your posts a lot lately :thumbs:
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Don't do this too me Frank :frown: Don't you leave me now. I will melt down so hard.
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I hope he and Chuck go out for beers later and Chuck is all, Carolina is so gay dude.
I laugh at your posts a lot lately :thumbs:
Thanks dude :thumbs:
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sys, if we're ever living in the same place, we're forging a degree and employment history for you that qualifies you to run the office. Hell, maybe even to be on BSAC's counsel of attorneys.
i do a lot better via text than via voice, unfortunately.
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sys, if we're ever living in the same place, we're forging a degree and employment history for you that qualifies you to run the office. Hell, maybe even to be on BSAC's counsel of attorneys.
i do a lot better via text than via voice, unfortunately.
I think getting paid some consulting fees to be the terrifying email voice has some potential.
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Is it bad that I just watched Chicago's "If You Leave Me Now" video on Youtube?
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Is it bad that I just watched Chicago's "If You Leave Me Now" video on Youtube?
"look away" would've been a much better choice imo. with lyrics version below...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkHmo8Pb0Po
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Fwiw, he sounded far, far less interested talking about usc than he did last year talking about Miami. He wasn't all "its a great job...blah, blah.". :dunno:
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Fwiw, he sounded far, far less interested talking about usc than he did last year talking about Miami. He wasn't all "its a great job...blah, blah.". :dunno:
I guess it is nice to have previous Frank job searches to look back on.
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Fwiw, he sounded far, far less interested talking about usc than he did last year talking about Miami. He wasn't all "its a great job...blah, blah.". :dunno:
Yes, but he doesn't have to seduce South Carolina. They have the flower petals tossed about, candles lit, John Legend playing, all with their sexy overalls on. Frank was the one trying to seduce Miami.
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I guess it is nice to have previous Frank job searches to look back on.
man, what a great comment. and from _fan, at that.
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South Carolina doesn't want him. Nobody does. He's stuck with us.
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South Carolina doesn't want him. Nobody does. He's stuck with us.
we're so lucky :love:
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WTF is with that post on gopo from Weibert? :curse:
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it hurts that he doesn't love us. why won't you love us Frank? why :embarrassed:
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WTF is with that post on gopo from Weibert? :curse:
he doesn't know crap
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WTF is with that post on gopo from Weibert? :curse:
he doesn't know crap
Thanks, goEMAW is clearly the more insidery source for Kansas State Athletics.
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WTF is with that post on gopo from Weibert? :curse:
he doesn't know crap
Thanks, goEMAW is clearly the more insidery source for Kansas State Athletics.
agree w/ sd.
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WTF is their problem? Oh, Martin isn't loyal like he used to be, he's not as cuddly with the administrators. Who the eff cares, he wins. Just win. Sheesh, can their shirts get tucked in anymore than they already are?
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WTF is their problem? Oh, Martin isn't loyal like he used to be, he's not as cuddly with the administrators. Who the eff cares, he wins. Just win. Sheesh, can their shirts get tucked in anymore than they already are?
Maybe its the administrators that won't cuddle with him...
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I hope he and Chuck go out for beers later and Chuck is all, Carolina is so gay dude.
I laugh at your posts a lot lately :thumbs:
you should hang out on TMB more if you want more gfa posts
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I hope he and Chuck go out for beers later and Chuck is all, Carolina is so gay dude.
I laugh at your posts a lot lately :thumbs:
you should hang out on TMB more if you want more gfa posts
I get there from time to time
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KSU Cats fans will not be happy with the outcome
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WTF is with that post on gopo from Weibert? :curse:
Summarize pls.
TIA
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KSU Cats fans will not be happy with the outcome
I'm not sure what to make of this.
If he leaves for SC, he is a rough ridin' moron and I will be very happy that he is gone.
If he stays, I love him and my support for him has never wavered.
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If he leaves for South Carolina, I'll assume that JC and this Jamie Vaughn eff are absolutely worse than I thought
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I would do anything for love but I won't do that :cry:
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Saying that you are glad he is gone because he was stupid for leaving is the worst talking point.
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Saying that you are glad he is gone because he was stupid for leaving is the worst talking point.
I'm not sure why that would be the case. I can think of many scenario's where him leaving (especially a step laterally or sideways) speaks volumes about him as a person, coach and hypocrite.
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Saying that you are glad he is gone because he was stupid for leaving is the worst talking point.
I'm not sure why that would be the case. I can think of many scenario's where him leaving (especially a step laterally or sideways) speaks volumes about him as a person, coach and hypocrite.
Its dumb because you're basing whether you want him based on if you can have him. I think that move would speak more to the poison that Jamie Vaughn had spread throughout our Athletics Department
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Saying that you are glad he is gone because he was stupid for leaving is the worst talking point.
I'm not sure why that would be the case. I can think of many scenario's where him leaving (especially a step laterally or sideways) speaks volumes about him as a person, coach and hypocrite.
Its dumb because you're basing whether you want him based on if you can have him. I think that move would speak more to the poison that Jamie Vaughn had spread throughout our Athletics Department
Vaughn is a real bastard.
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Saying that you are glad he is gone because he was stupid for leaving is the worst talking point.
I'm not sure why that would be the case. I can think of many scenario's where him leaving (especially a step laterally or sideways) speaks volumes about him as a person, coach and hypocrite.
Its dumb because you're basing whether you want him based on if you can have him. I think that move would speak more to the poison that Jamie Vaughn had spread throughout our Athletics Department
again, i don't understand this argument. I'm basing whether I want him or not on the decision that he will or won't make.
If I'm dating a girl that has a decision to make about whether to cheat on me or not, if she doesn't, I love her sooooo much....if she does, she can rough ridin' rot in hell. Get it? To go further, if she cheats on me with Brad Pitt, I may high five her and accept this as something that could not be avoided...hell I may actually RESPECT that decision...if she cheats on me with the fat rough ridin' bartender with a greasy mustache and half a mouthful of teeth, I'll happily tell her to go eff herself.
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Saying that you are glad he is gone because he was stupid for leaving is the worst talking point.
I'm not sure why that would be the case. I can think of many scenario's where him leaving (especially a step laterally or sideways) speaks volumes about him as a person, coach and hypocrite.
Its dumb because you're basing whether you want him based on if you can have him. I think that move would speak more to the poison that Jamie Vaughn had spread throughout our Athletics Department
Vaughn is a real bastard.
Fire Vaughn airplane banner?!
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WTF is with that post on gopo from Weibert? :curse:
Summarize pls.
TIA
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WTF is with that post on gopo from Weibert? :curse:
Summarize pls.
TIA
Martin treats everyone like crap, tried to attack Currie in Pitt, has changed for the worse. They think success has gotten to his head. I think that's pretty much it.
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WTF is with that post on gopo from Weibert? :curse:
Summarize pls.
TIA
Martin treats everyone like crap, tried to attack Currie in Pitt, has changed for the worse. They think success has gotten to his head. I think that's pretty much it.
I am fine with all of that if it is true. I mean, I would love to have a coach who refuses to let anyone bigtime him. That is a coach that won't let himself fail because he can't give others ammo.
honestly, if a coach isn't trying to fight his AD every so often, he prob just doesn't want to win bad enough. Doc never fought anyone.....
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again, i don't understand this argument. I'm basing whether I want him or not on the decision that he will or won't make.
If I'm dating a girl that has a decision to make about whether to cheat on me or not, if she doesn't, I love her sooooo much....if she does, she can rough ridin' rot in hell. Get it? To go further, if she cheats on me with Brad Pitt, I may high five her and accept this as something that could not be avoided...hell I may actually RESPECT that decision...if she cheats on me with the fat rough ridin' bartender with a greasy mustache and half a mouthful of teeth, I'll happily tell her to go eff herself.
lol this is so true
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WTF is with that post on gopo from Weibert? :curse:
Summarize pls.
TIA
Martin treats everyone like crap, tried to attack Currie in Pitt, has changed for the worse. They think success has gotten to his head. I think that's pretty much it.
If this bullshit is what the athletic department is trying to sell, then Frank just deserves better
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WTF is with that post on gopo from Weibert? :curse:
Summarize pls.
TIA
Martin treats everyone like crap, tried to attack Currie in Pitt, has changed for the worse. They think success has gotten to his head. I think that's pretty much it.
didn't someone say on here last night/ maybe fitz that currie is spreading negative press out there about frank in alumni circles.
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The Propaganda Games have begun!
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Sure thing, Vaughn.
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What in eff is going on
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Saying that you are glad he is gone because he was stupid for leaving is the worst talking point.
I'm not sure why that would be the case. I can think of many scenario's where him leaving (especially a step laterally or sideways) speaks volumes about him as a person, coach and hypocrite.
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Its dumb because you're basing whether you want him based on if you can have him. I think that move would speak more to the poison that Jamie Vaughn had spread throughout our Athletics Department
Vaughn is a real bastard.
It's not Vaughn. I understand it makes sense. But it's not Vaughn. Look no further than Casey Scott. The seeds of discontent about Frank were sewn by Casey Scott. And John Currie isn't as much to blame for the situation as people would believe. John is dealing with the problems Casey created. Casey is an egotistical man who wants his way--and hasn't gotten his way when he locked horns with Frank. Frank has won those battles, and Casey deals with a bruised ego.
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casey scott, gmafb. as likely cns casey as casey scott.
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What in eff is going on
The athletic dept is turning on eachother. It means we're close...
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casey scott, gmafb. as likely cns casey as casey scott.
I hate guys with 2 first names.
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casey scott, gmafb. as likely cns casey as casey scott.
I hate guys with 2 first names.
My thought as well, which means Jamie Vaughn can get the eff out too
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I have no idea who casey scott is but I'd be willing to listen to anyone that wants to tell me why I should hate him. PMs also accepted for stuff that can't be posted here (this goes for non casey guy info too)
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FWIW, you can blame Casey Scott for the issues with Curt last year. And, any information you got to read from a journalist (Kellis) had to have been leaked by him. Had to.
Sounds like somebody has a bone to pick with casey scott, but it isn't Frank.
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first prove casey scott exists, then we'll worry about whether or not to blame him. i just don't want these jackasses not buying tickets or holding our entire athletic department hostage because they want to have their cake and eat it too.
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Casey "Tim Weiser's little Internet Spy" Scott
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I'm ok saying Casey Scott is an bad person but if Currie is running an administration where Casey Scott is allowed to so much as look Frank in the eyes, its a Currie problem. And no idea what all that bad person Vaughn is responsible for but am positive there is blood on his hands
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:lol:
I need Currie, Vaughn and Scott to all report to goEMAW's Wichita office tomorrow morning for a debriefing.
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first prove casey scott exists, then we'll worry about whether or not to blame him. i just don't want these jackasses not buying tickets or holding our entire athletic department hostage because they want to have their cake and eat it too.
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I would do anything, ANYTHING, to have Bob Krause back at the helm firing people and hiring people and running crap like a rough ridin' boss like pew pew pew everyone gets some
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If this is even remotely true . . .
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casey scott, gmafb. as likely cns casey as casey scott.
I hate guys with 2 first names.
frank
martin
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casey scott does exist and currie just promoted him two months ago. he sounds like he's sorta in charge of wrangling martin to do whatever currie wants martin to do or something like that.
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Jan. 23, 2012
Casey Scott has been promoted to Senior Associate Athletics Director for Operations and Event Management... while serving as the Senior Staff administrator for the sports of baseball, men’s basketball, and men’s and women’s golf.
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I would do anything, ANYTHING, to have Bob Krause back at the helm firing people and hiring people and running crap like a rough ridin' boss like pew pew pew everyone gets some
I was just thinking about this today . . . and while it is very hard to get past the secret Prince contract, I feel certain that if Bob Krause were the AD anybody going to the NCAA with something like $200 buck from an AAU wouldn't be heard from again.
Family of departed KSU Staffer: Do you know where _______ is Mr. Kruase?
BK: Who?
Family: My husband _________
BK: Never heard of him.
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casey scott, gmafb. as likely cns casey as casey scott.
I hate guys with 2 first names.
frank
martin
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exception that proves the rule
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casey scott does exist and currie just promoted him two months ago. he sounds like he's sorta in charge of wrangling martin to do whatever currie wants martin to do or something like that.
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Jan. 23, 2012
Casey Scott has been promoted to Senior Associate Athletics Director for Operations and Event Management... while serving as the Senior Staff administrator for the sports of baseball, men’s basketball, and men’s and women’s golf.
yeah, that's weibart on GPC. good call sys.
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Broiler def seemed on board with goEMAW at MOAP2.5.
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casey scott, gmafb. as likely cns casey as casey scott.
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yeah, that's weibart on GPC. good call sys.
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ATTN: ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT STAFFERS
Like in any other crime, the first one to turn on the others and confess all sins to goEMAW will be saved.
PM me.
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yeah, that's weibart on GPC. good call sys.
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either on purpose or randomly you nailed it
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labcat usu has good info...anyone care to share what he posted on gpc?
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ATTN: ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT STAFFERS
Like in any other crime, the first one to turn on the others and confess all sins to goEMAW will be saved.
PM me.
Trim can protect you and your identity
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yeah, that's weibart on GPC. good call sys.
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Weibart's last name is Webber, iirc. He used it on his blog when his daughter had cancer a couple years ago.
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I feel like Casey Scott deserves a forum to defend himself.
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yeah, that's weibart on GPC. good call sys.
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Weibart's last name is Webber, iirc. He used it on his blog when his daughter had cancer a couple years ago.
I have no rough ridin' clue who he is obviously
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I feel like Casey Scott deserves a forum to defend himself.
Barring any new information, he is on my crap list
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Soon Frank will have his new office and be in his own little world . . . plenty of space between all the dicks.
Somebody's got to ShaggyBevoMSPaint this thing.
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I feel like Casey Scott deserves a forum to defend himself.
Barring any new information, he is on my crap list
if you work for this athletic department you work for me. if you deny every freedom of information request that is sent your way you get your performance review on my rough ridin' terms.
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I feel like Casey Scott deserves a forum to defend himself.
Barring any new information, he is on my crap list
They're all guilty. Which one wants a deal?
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ATTN: ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT STAFFERS
Like in any other crime, the first one to turn on the others and confess all sins to goEMAW will be saved.
PM me.
THIS
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labcat usu has good info...anyone care to share what he posted on gpc?
my guess is that he said snyder also doesn't care for currie which is also not new information. carrie along.
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to me, it's like martin's thing about the fish. when an a.d. stinks, it stinks first in the head. or most in the head.
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although, thinking about it, that really doesn't even make sense.
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:lol:
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Cut the head off the snake?
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Honestly, is there a single poster on here that I want to punch in the face that doesn't think we would be better of right now with Bob Krause/The Animal combo? I mean, it's not like Bosco is going anywhere.
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Casey "Tim Weiser's little Internet Spy" Scott
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someone itk named him as the ad dirty work guy
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casey scott, gmafb. as likely cns casey as casey scott.
I hate guys with 2 first names.
frank
martin
:horrorsurprise:
Steve dave :horrorsurprise:
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Honestly, is there a single poster on here that I want to punch in the face that doesn't think we would be better of right now with Bob Krause/The Animal combo? I mean, it's not like Bosco is going anywhere.
Especially now that we have some conference stability. It would let him focus on what he does best, think about winning at all costs.
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I would refer to them as "Kranimal."
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I would refer to them as "Kranimal."
they are the perfect combo. he had no chance with rough ridin' loser senile eff wefald at the helm. rudderless scotch fueled ship. with the animal directing traffic it's rough ridin' boss moves left and right and in front and behind and everywhere.
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I would refer to them as "Kranimal."
they are the perfect combo. he had no chance with rough ridin' loser senile eff wefald at the helm. rudderless scotch fueled ship. with the animal directing traffic it's rough ridin' boss moves left and right and in front and behind and everywhere.
GO DIRECT THAT TRAFFIC, ANIMAL!
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I wish I was even itk enough to know who the itk posters are, you know?
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holy eff :thumbs:
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i've been a while so i need cliffs. I don't want to muddle through this thread and i apologize in advance...
So Currie and Frank's relationship is mumped up real bad, which may or may not be Currie's fault. Now he has GPC posters spreading stories to others and alumni? What are the percentages Frank leaves now? 75%?
tia. go cats.
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I told you idiots about Currie....I will lead this lynch mob Reply
Wonder what that idiot is doing right now while frank is lookin good on national television repping k state....
This guy is that dork that was always joining every organization he could To make his resume look amazing but only cared about himself....
Anyone who likes him because they think he "keeps it clean" has probably never seen a female naked....
If this goes down I will take a day off work (can't wait to hear your cliche "you work at mcdonalds" jokes) and protest at the union to fire John "anti social" currie....I am serious. I will keep you updated on that babes....
This guy walked in and got the keys to 2 nice rides....a old caddie (bill) and a decked out jag with an attitude (frank).....how do you not mess that up and look good....all you have to do is let people do what they do...k state is not a sexy job...we got lucky. This reminds me of me in college when a girl made a horrible decision (me)...you need to just roll with it babes...
Oh hold on frank is on tv again..........ok sorry...
All I am saying is join me....I don't care that I was right....let's get over that....all I am saying is chose....the guy on tv or the dweeb with the astonishing resume......
Go state baby!
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I told you idiots about Currie....I will lead this lynch mob Reply
Wonder what that idiot is doing right now while frank is lookin good on national television repping k state....
This guy is that dork that was always joining every organization he could To make his resume look amazing but only cared about himself....
Anyone who likes him because they think he "keeps it clean" has probably never seen a female naked....
If this goes down I will take a day off work (can't wait to hear your cliche "you work at mcdonalds" jokes) and protest at the union to fire John "anti social" currie....I am serious. I will keep you updated on that babes....
This guy walked in and got the keys to 2 nice rides....a old caddie (bill) and a decked out jag with an attitude (frank).....how do you not mess that up and look good....all you have to do is let people do what they do...k state is not a sexy job...we got lucky. This reminds me of me in college when a girl made a horrible decision (me)...you need to just roll with it babes...
Oh hold on frank is on tv again..........ok sorry...
All I am saying is join me....I don't care that I was right....let's get over that....all I am saying is chose....the guy on tv or the dweeb with the astonishing resume......
Go state baby!
wow, get that guy to post here.
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I told you idiots about Currie....I will lead this lynch mob Reply
Wonder what that idiot is doing right now while frank is lookin good on national television repping k state....
This guy is that dork that was always joining every organization he could To make his resume look amazing but only cared about himself....
Anyone who likes him because they think he "keeps it clean" has probably never seen a female naked....
If this goes down I will take a day off work (can't wait to hear your cliche "you work at mcdonalds" jokes) and protest at the union to fire John "anti social" currie....I am serious. I will keep you updated on that babes....
This guy walked in and got the keys to 2 nice rides....a old caddie (bill) and a decked out jag with an attitude (frank).....how do you not mess that up and look good....all you have to do is let people do what they do...k state is not a sexy job...we got lucky. This reminds me of me in college when a girl made a horrible decision (me)...you need to just roll with it babes...
Oh hold on frank is on tv again..........ok sorry...
All I am saying is join me....I don't care that I was right....let's get over that....all I am saying is chose....the guy on tv or the dweeb with the astonishing resume......
Go state baby!
The most important thing I learned from that post is that I definitely need to use "babes" more in everyday conversation.
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i've been a while so i need cliffs. I don't want to muddle through this thread and i apologize in advance...
So Currie and Frank's relationship is mumped up real bad, which may or may not be Currie's fault. Now he has GPC posters spreading stories to others and alumni? What are the percentages Frank leaves now? 75%?
tia. go cats.
Yep. It's a full out public war now. I half expect 2-3 mods to get directly PM'd by ITK types before Monday. They'll ALL be chirping.
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i've been a while so i need cliffs. I don't want to muddle through this thread and i apologize in advance...
So Currie and Frank's relationship is mumped up real bad, which may or may not be Currie's fault. Now he has GPC posters spreading stories to others and alumni? What are the percentages Frank leaves now? 75%?
tia. go cats.
Yep. It's a full out public war now. I half expect 2-3 mods to get directly PM'd by ITK types before Monday. They'll ALL be chirping.
which leads me to a good question... in the multiple years that we've had this place up and running, has anyone ever even remotely seen me out a source? answer- you haven't. why? i would never ever do it.
if anybody wants to provide information but does not want to be outed then just private message it to me. if you are a guest, you will have to sign up and then click on the "my messages" icon towards the top.
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Yep. It's a full out public war now. I half expect 2-3 mods to get directly PM'd by ITK types before Monday. They'll ALL be chirping.
Newspapers can't afford to fight the FOIA battles.
goEMAW? :kstategrad:
As Daris just posted, somebody's going to be very protected when this all goes down if they make the right decision.
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I hate that the mods get all this super secret info and never share it. Can't wait till Daris kicks the bucket and I get to take his place.
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Deleted posts :cheese:
redacted posts :cheese:
your ip's have been logged!
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WillieWatanabe would like to be included on pm circles. tia.
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your ip's have been logged!
haha, we don't know about computers
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your ip's have been logged!
haha, we don't know about computers
Saul kind if does. bad thing is that he's been been playing pacman or goldeneye or something all day.
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I think that I would be the most trust worthy to tell info to IMHO. I am barely on this board's radar in fact.
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everyone who has posted on this thread will receive a virus. if your flash or adobe reader is out of date, it will be an even nastier virus. just a heads up
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everyone who has posted on this thread will receive a virus. if your flash or adobe reader is out of date, it will be an even nastier virus. just a heads up
:lol:
yeah if you are using windows maybe....
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everyone who has posted on this thread will receive a virus. if your flash or adobe reader is out of date, it will be an even nastier virus. just a heads up
Thank God I didn't post in this thread.
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This year's Propaganda Games is going to be the best ever.
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I hate that the mods get all this super secret info and never share it. Can't wait till Daris kicks the bucket and I get to take his place.
This. Except Daris not kicking the bucket...:eartodoortryingtohearshit: :dunno:
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Not really sure what's up with "nohighfives" but I love the screen name. :gocho:
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:bwpopcorn: :popcorn:
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Not really sure what's up with "nohighfives" but I love the screen name. :gocho:
omg, what if it's Sprads?
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Hey Basketball Hoops Fans!
This has been a most fun season so far, with championships and glory in sight for all good teams! Put it in the hoop, put in in! Go KANSAS STATE SPORTS TEAM go! I know when me and my best friends are chilling and shooting the hoops in the basketball pitch we also develop a big hunger. Oh yes, big hunger in the stomach to big tasting foods! Food for slam dunking and sky hooping the ball into the net! We prefer to drip on our yummy treats Frank's Red Hot (http://www.franksredhot.com/). Oh yes the spicy flavor makes us better dribblers and jammers. Our favorite food which is the best deal to eat is FRANK'S® REDHOT® BUFFALO CHICKEN DIP (http://www.franksredhot.com/recipes/franks-redhot-buffalo-chicken-dip-RE1242). This best on breads or chips. It always gets the most three point shots at my parties will all of my WILDCAT friends.
Franks! I put that on everything!
GO TEAM! GO WILDCATS of KANSAS SPORTS TEAMS! Win the game and triumph over the weak! GO GO GO!
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Not really sure what's up with "nohighfives" but I love the screen name. :gocho:
omg, what if it's Sprads?
eff. I thought it was someone who liked the crap out of my power move.
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NOT NOW number_one_KSU, not now.
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Sold.
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Hey Basketball Hoops Fans!
This has been a most fun season so far, with championships and glory in sight for all good teams! Put it in the hoop, put in in! Go KANSAS STATE SPORTS TEAM go! I know when me and my best friends are chilling and shooting the hoops in the basketball pitch we also develop a big hunger. Oh yes, big hunger in the stomach to big tasting foods! Food for slam dunking and sky hooping the ball into the net! We prefer to drip on our yummy treats Frank's Red Hot (http://www.franksredhot.com/). Oh yes the spicy flavor makes us better dribblers and jammers. Our favorite food which is the best deal to eat is FRANK'S® REDHOT® BUFFALO CHICKEN DIP (http://www.franksredhot.com/recipes/franks-redhot-buffalo-chicken-dip-RE1242). This best on breads or chips. It always gets the most three point shots at my parties will all of my WILDCAT friends.
Franks! I put that on everything!
GO TEAM! GO WILDCATS of KANSAS SPORTS TEAMS! Win the game and triumph over the weak! GO GO GO!
OMFG! :lol: X 1,000
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Why do you think that Frank had to stop cursing?
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Hey Basketball Hoops Fans!
This has been a most fun season so far, with championships and glory in sight for all good teams! Put it in the hoop, put in in! Go KANSAS STATE SPORTS TEAM go! I know when me and my best friends are chilling and shooting the hoops in the basketball pitch we also develop a big hunger. Oh yes, big hunger in the stomach to big tasting foods! Food for slam dunking and sky hooping the ball into the net! We prefer to drip on our yummy treats Frank's Red Hot (http://www.franksredhot.com/). Oh yes the spicy flavor makes us better dribblers and jammers. Our favorite food which is the best deal to eat is FRANK'S® REDHOT® BUFFALO CHICKEN DIP (http://www.franksredhot.com/recipes/franks-redhot-buffalo-chicken-dip-RE1242). This best on breads or chips. It always gets the most three point shots at my parties will all of my WILDCAT friends.
Franks! I put that on everything!
GO TEAM! GO WILDCATS of KANSAS SPORTS TEAMS! Win the game and triumph over the weak! GO GO GO!
Hungry all of the sudden.
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Mastermind behind it all?
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Why do you think that Frank had to stop cursing?
Oh, man. Pete. :frown:
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:curse: leave her out of this
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:curse: leave her out of this
She's not in this. She is this.
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NOT NOW number_one_KSU, not now.
I literally lol'd at this.
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I just bought 10 cases of Franks Red Hot. I'm not sure why.
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This isn't over until someone gets a Cabella's gift card.
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Fitz is on our side, and I can't believe it. Well I should, no matter how much of an eff up he is he still likes successful athletic teams.
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Hey Basketball Hoops Fans!
This has been a most fun season so far, with championships and glory in sight for all good teams! Put it in the hoop, put in in! Go KANSAS STATE SPORTS TEAM go! I know when me and my best friends are chilling and shooting the hoops in the basketball pitch we also develop a big hunger. Oh yes, big hunger in the stomach to big tasting foods! Food for slam dunking and sky hooping the ball into the net! We prefer to drip on our yummy treats Frank's Red Hot (http://www.franksredhot.com/). Oh yes the spicy flavor makes us better dribblers and jammers. Our favorite food which is the best deal to eat is FRANK'S® REDHOT® BUFFALO CHICKEN DIP (http://www.franksredhot.com/recipes/franks-redhot-buffalo-chicken-dip-RE1242). This best on breads or chips. It always gets the most three point shots at my parties will all of my WILDCAT friends.
Franks! I put that on everything!
GO TEAM! GO WILDCATS of KANSAS SPORTS TEAMS! Win the game and triumph over the weak! GO GO GO!
The word.
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Fitz is on our side, and I can't believe it. Well I should, no matter how much of an eff up he is he still likes successful athletic teams.
Fitz seems unbelievably pissed, and is spilling everything. Is this stuff about friction with Old Ballz and Fitz stating that Currie blocked Leavitt new? I don't know if Fitz' anger is mostly about the open records blocks or the EMAW in him not wanting to see Frank leaving. Either way he knows the best way to get the tucks to turn is to talk about Currie pissing off Synder.
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or the EMAW in him not wanting to see Frank leaving.
LOL, no. It's about himself. It always is.
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Fitz is on our side, and I can't believe it. Well I should, no matter how much of an eff up he is he still likes successful athletic teams.
Fitz seems unbelievably pissed, and is spilling everything. Is this stuff about friction with Old Ballz and Fitz stating that Currie blocked Leavitt new? I don't know if Fitz' anger is mostly about the open records blocks or the EMAW in him not wanting to see Frank leaving. Either way he knows the best way to get the tucks to turn is to talk about Currie pissing off Synder.
You think Gopowercat does open records requests? LOL, ok. This is about Fitz not getting scoops Currie probably restricting their access to some info and also not just casually leaking stuff like previous regimes.
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or the EMAW in him not wanting to see Frank leaving.
LOL, no. It's about himself. It always is.
We need all the foot soldiers in the war against Currie we can get, whatever the reason.
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Fitz is on our side, and I can't believe it. Well I should, no matter how much of an eff up he is he still likes successful athletic teams.
Fitz seems unbelievably pissed, and is spilling everything. Is this stuff about friction with Old Ballz and Fitz stating that Currie blocked Leavitt new? I don't know if Fitz' anger is mostly about the open records blocks or the EMAW in him not wanting to see Frank leaving. Either way he knows the best way to get the tucks to turn is to talk about Currie pissing off Synder.
You think Gopowercat does open records requests? LOL, ok. This is about Fitz not getting scoops Currie probably restricting their access to some info and also not just casually leaking stuff like previous regimes.
of course not, I didn't say that either, but he is clearly pissed about the open records blocks, he's made multiple references to it the last 24 hours
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It's moments like these that provide me with tremendous self confidence.
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Fitz is on our side, and I can't believe it. Well I should, no matter how much of an eff up he is he still likes successful athletic teams.
Fitz seems unbelievably pissed, and is spilling everything. Is this stuff about friction with Old Ballz and Fitz stating that Currie blocked Leavitt new? I don't know if Fitz' anger is mostly about the open records blocks or the EMAW in him not wanting to see Frank leaving. Either way he knows the best way to get the tucks to turn is to talk about Currie pissing off Synder.
You think Gopowercat does open records requests? LOL, ok. This is about Fitz not getting scoops Currie probably restricting their access to some info and also not just casually leaking stuff like previous regimes.
of course not, I didn't say that either, but he is clearly pissed about the open records blocks, he's made multiple references to it the last 24 hours
Fitz is grasping for anything he can say out loud to bad mouth Currie. I would bet it has more to do with Fitz angry because this AD office is not run by Wefald/Krause.
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Do you guys know what's going on here? I mean, do you really rough ridin' know what's going on?
We are on the cusp of a rough ridin' legendary athletic department melt down. LEGENDARY.
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Yup, and it's all Currie's fault.
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Do you guys know what's going on here? I mean, do you really rough ridin' know what's going on?
We are on the cusp of a rough ridin' legendary athletic department melt down. LEGENDARY.
:users:
CC has been very absent.....
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Do you guys know what's going on here? I mean, do you really rough ridin' know what's going on?
We are on the cusp of a rough ridin' legendary athletic department melt down. LEGENDARY.
:users:
By God, if any school is going to have an open revolt against its own athletics department, it may as well be ours.
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Currie will squash this like an insect
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are we gambling or are we rough ridin' gambling?
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I just read through some emails with some of the information on GPC.
If Fitz is telling people that Snyder and Currie don't have a good relationship, Currie is toast.
People can say what they want about Fitz, but he controls a very large mob.
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yeah, the frank propaganda machine is in full force right now. this should be the strongest indicator that frank is staying for anyone paying attention from the outside with no horse in the race.
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and the bill v. currie stuff has been going around forever. bill is a control freak who doesn't want any meddling but ultimately he isn't going to get worked up with stuff like this. he probably does hate currie but his point of reference is the wefald regime where he was the compliance. the fact that his name is NOW getting drug into this is a fantastic indicator that frank is staying or at least working against currie for some reason (the only reason conceivably being to get a new/better contract). But, frank is rough ridin' weird, maybe he's just burning this rough rider down on his way out. if he goes out that's how he will leave it.
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I want Currie run off the team.
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Hmm, should I be upset if currie gets run out of town?
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and the bill v. currie stuff has been going around forever.
yeah. and I don't have a prob with it? weird? maybe.
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I want Currie run off the team.
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and the bill v. currie stuff has been going around forever.
But not out in the open with someone "inside" saying specifically that it's "not good".
If Fitz is going on his board saying that, now it's common knowledge to thousands. Obviously, it's going around via email because, hey, I got the email.
If the Currie vs. Frank thing is the Pacific theater in WW2, the Enola Fitz just dropped one Hiroshima.
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and the bill v. currie stuff has been going around forever.
yeah. and I don't have a prob with it? weird? maybe.
I think we have known about it for a long time and we didn't care because we want someone to have a problem with Snyder for numerous reasons.
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and the bill v. currie stuff has been going around forever.
But not out in the open with someone "inside" saying specifically that it's "not good".
If Fitz is going on his board saying that, now it's common knowledge to thousands. Obviously, it's going around via email because, hey, I got the email.
If the Currie vs. Frank thing is the Pacific theater in WW2, the Enola Fitz just dropped one Hiroshima.
who the eff are you talking about that's "inside"? Fitz?
to repeat:
bill is a control freak who doesn't want any meddling but ultimately he isn't going to get worked up with stuff like this. he probably does hate currie but his point of reference is the wefald regime where he was the compliance. the fact that his name is NOW getting drug into this is a fantastic indicator that frank is staying or at least working against currie for some reason (the only reason conceivably being to get a new/better contract). But, frank is rough ridin' weird, maybe he's just burning this rough rider down on his way out. if he goes out that's how he will leave it.
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Trim's "i dont like currie" is paying dividends this week.
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Trim's "i dont like currie" is paying dividends this week.
:gocho:
Dax jumped all over me when I first said it.
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I just want somebody running the show that just wants to go get everyone's money. . . just walk into living rooms and tell people to start handing over blank checks, sell all of your $hit and dream of limestone spires to the sky.
I don't want some stinkin Compliance Wonk!!
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Why would bill v. currie now be coming to light to the masses? who decided now was a beneficial time to bring this up? who can gain from it?
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I just want somebody running the show that just wants to go get everyone's money. . . just walk into living rooms and tell people to start handing over blank checks, sell all of your $hit and dream of limestone spires to the sky.
I don't want some stinkin Compliance Wonk!!
:ksu:
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Trim's "i dont like currie" is paying dividends this week.
:gocho:
Dax jumped all over me when I first said it.
I did too
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Trim's "i dont like currie" is paying dividends this week.
:gocho:
Dax jumped all over me when I first said it.
I did too
Not as much as you did about the FIRE PRINCE shirt.
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no regrets
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do you guys think LHC Bill Snyder picked right now to let the public know that he didn't like currie very much? I wonder who would gain from this getting spread around?
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I'm a bit of a utopian . . . I wanted to believe it was just the new young AD pissin on a few bushes letting every one know he was kind of in charge.
I just want nice things.
I don't want rough ridin' Ronnie Resume . . . the resume builds itself.
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Firing the AD because the basketball coach is pissed at him and the football coach hates is pretty rough ridin' cool.
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Trim's "i dont like currie" is paying dividends this week.
:gocho:
Dax jumped all over me when I first said it.
I did too
Not as much as you did about the FIRE PRINCE shirt.
Ten win football season, 3rd straight NCAA tourney, practice facility and west side expansion. 2nd most profitable dept in the league. Currie is looking like the best AD weve ever had. And Trim sticks to his guns. Man oh man.
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Firing the AD because the basketball coach is pissed at him and the football coach hates is pretty rough ridin' cool.
It will be glorious. I'd like to have a Soul Train tunnel dance at the MHK termy for a John Currie perp walk out of town.
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fitz prolly thinks that with currie gone the next AD will be a townie that will give him access.
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do you guys think LHC Bill Snyder picked right now to let the public know that he didn't like currie very much? I wonder who would gain from this getting spread around?
I think that's exactly what is happening.
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fitz prolly thinks that with currie gone the next AD will be a townie that will give him access.
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Ten win football season, 3rd straight NCAA tourney, practice facility and west side expansion.
I like these things.
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fitz prolly thinks that with currie gone the next AD will be a townie that will give him access.
before we team up with fitz we must remember that fitz does whats best for fitz, not EMAW
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I want Bill, Frank and John to all stay. :frown: Am i the only one? Is it too late to want this?
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Frank will burn this place to the ground. Prepare yourselves.
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Ten win football season, 3rd straight NCAA tourney, practice facility and west side expansion.
I like these things.
wasnt implying that you didnt. Sorry for any confusion
I want Bill, Frank and John to all stay. :frown: Am i the only one? Is it too late to want this?
In a perfect world....
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Frank will burn this place to the ground. Prepare yourselves.
Good. I'll light the match./
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Frank will burn this place to the ground. Prepare yourselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edC6_9LC-Nc&t=42m18s
Fire Currie. The certificate and gift card presentation to the Animal come May will be glorious.
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and the bill v. currie stuff has been going around forever.
But not out in the open with someone "inside" saying specifically that it's "not good".
If Fitz is going on his board saying that, now it's common knowledge to thousands. Obviously, it's going around via email because, hey, I got the email.
If the Currie vs. Frank thing is the Pacific theater in WW2, the Enola Fitz just dropped one Hiroshima.
who the eff are you talking about that's "inside"? Fitz?
to repeat:
bill is a control freak who doesn't want any meddling but ultimately he isn't going to get worked up with stuff like this. he probably does hate currie but his point of reference is the wefald regime where he was the compliance. the fact that his name is NOW getting drug into this is a fantastic indicator that frank is staying or at least working against currie for some reason (the only reason conceivably being to get a new/better contract). But, frank is rough ridin' weird, maybe he's just burning this rough rider down on his way out. if he goes out that's how he will leave it.
I agree with you on all points. I should have gone into further detail on the "inside" part because I hoped the quotation marks would have done that heavy lifting for me.
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ok, understood
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and the bill v. currie stuff has been going around forever.
But not out in the open with someone "inside" saying specifically that it's "not good".
If Fitz is going on his board saying that, now it's common knowledge to thousands. Obviously, it's going around via email because, hey, I got the email.
If the Currie vs. Frank thing is the Pacific theater in WW2, the Enola Fitz just dropped one Hiroshima.
who the eff are you talking about that's "inside"? Fitz?
to repeat:
bill is a control freak who doesn't want any meddling but ultimately he isn't going to get worked up with stuff like this. he probably does hate currie but his point of reference is the wefald regime where he was the compliance. the fact that his name is NOW getting drug into this is a fantastic indicator that frank is staying or at least working against currie for some reason (the only reason conceivably being to get a new/better contract). But, frank is rough ridin' weird, maybe he's just burning this rough rider down on his way out. if he goes out that's how he will leave it.
I'm not understanding what Frank burning the mumped down has to do with Fitz talking about a rift between Currie and Snyder? I'm fairly sure that Frank doesn't give two shits about what Fitz posts on his message board.
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I'm a bit of a utopian . . . I wanted to believe it was just the new young AD pissin on a few bushes letting every one know he was kind of in charge.
I just want nice things.
i still kind of think this and actually like currie in some ways. kill me. so be it. oh well.
the one thing that has always worried me and you can read through my 7k posts is his treatment of frank. it was just wrong from the beginning and he should've taken the time to know better. the other came up last year with curt and then again with jamar. if we loose frank then...
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I'm not understanding what Frank burning the mumped down has to do with Fitz talking about a rift between Currie and Snyder? I'm fairly sure that Frank doesn't give two shits about what Fitz posts on his message board.
Not related.
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Has Fitz mentioned Currie blocking Leavitt before today? What an ass.
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Has Fitz mentioned Currie blocking Leavitt before today? What an ass.
I hadn't seen it here or there that's why I asked, then again I only read like three threads on the football board.
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and the bill v. currie stuff has been going around forever.
But not out in the open with someone "inside" saying specifically that it's "not good".
If Fitz is going on his board saying that, now it's common knowledge to thousands. Obviously, it's going around via email because, hey, I got the email.
If the Currie vs. Frank thing is the Pacific theater in WW2, the Enola Fitz just dropped one Hiroshima.
who the eff are you talking about that's "inside"? Fitz?
to repeat:
bill is a control freak who doesn't want any meddling but ultimately he isn't going to get worked up with stuff like this. he probably does hate currie but his point of reference is the wefald regime where he was the compliance. the fact that his name is NOW getting drug into this is a fantastic indicator that frank is staying or at least working against currie for some reason (the only reason conceivably being to get a new/better contract). But, frank is rough ridin' weird, maybe he's just burning this rough rider down on his way out. if he goes out that's how he will leave it.
I'm not understanding what Frank burning the mumped down has to do with Fitz talking about a rift between Currie and Snyder? I'm fairly sure that Frank doesn't give two shits about what Fitz posts on his message board.
IMO, this means Fitz is actively campaigning against Currie, and he doesn't care at this point what Currie does to him. You don't tell your thousands of subscribers that there is a rift between Currie and Snyder unless you want them to pick a side, especially with his particular clientele.
You want to get fans to revolt against our AD? Tell them that Snyder doesn't like him. He'll be wearing that Scarlet A until the day he leaves.
I find it interesting that Manbeck openly criticizes the KSU AD the same day. It's like everyone that's upset with Currie just decided to come out firing on a day where Frank looked fantastic on CBS.
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and the bill v. currie stuff has been going around forever.
But not out in the open with someone "inside" saying specifically that it's "not good".
If Fitz is going on his board saying that, now it's common knowledge to thousands. Obviously, it's going around via email because, hey, I got the email.
If the Currie vs. Frank thing is the Pacific theater in WW2, the Enola Fitz just dropped one Hiroshima.
who the eff are you talking about that's "inside"? Fitz?
to repeat:
bill is a control freak who doesn't want any meddling but ultimately he isn't going to get worked up with stuff like this. he probably does hate currie but his point of reference is the wefald regime where he was the compliance. the fact that his name is NOW getting drug into this is a fantastic indicator that frank is staying or at least working against currie for some reason (the only reason conceivably being to get a new/better contract). But, frank is rough ridin' weird, maybe he's just burning this rough rider down on his way out. if he goes out that's how he will leave it.
I'm not understanding what Frank burning the mumped down has to do with Fitz talking about a rift between Currie and Snyder? I'm fairly sure that Frank doesn't give two shits about what Fitz posts on his message board.
IMO, this means Fitz is actively campaigning against Currie, and he doesn't care at this point what Currie does to him. You don't tell your thousands of subscribers that there is a rift between Currie and Snyder unless you want them to pick a side, especially with his particular clientele.
You want to get fans to revolt against our AD? Tell them that Snyder doesn't like him. He'll be wearing that Scarlet A until the day he leaves.
I find it interesting that Manbeck openly criticizes the KSU AD the same day. It's like everyone that's upset with Currie just decided to come out firing on a day where Frank looked fantastic on CBS.
Did you read my question or just quote the wrong post? Trim had the right answer, I didn't ask why Fitz is mad, its common sense.
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We're gonna need a bigger boat.
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if we all rush currie at the same time, we can take that big rough rider out.
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if we all rush currie at the same time, we can take that big rough rider out.
:excited:
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Did you read my question or just quote the wrong post? Trim had the right answer, I didn't ask why Fitz is mad, its common sense.
I tend to expand my thoughts on a subject based on the quotes in that stream. I don't always respond directly to the question.
I don't think Frank is burning it down. I don't think he's working with Fitz. I think a group of people, Fitz being one of them, is trying to leverage the situation in favor of Frank. The best way to do that is to tell people that Snyder and Currie don't get along either because, really, that's the relationship most of them care about.
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Fitz has chosen his side of the battle. He's kinda like the French in WW2. He knows that Snyder is the one that butters his bread. All of the power, in his little universe, is based on the football side of the equation. Basketball is a nice side job but football powers his money stream. As to whether or not to side with Fitz on this, it goes to an old saying. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Just my 2 cents.
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Fitz has had tons of time to bring up the snyder v. currie stuff and it's been known for a long time. why now?
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can't wait until we get rid of Currie and then Snyder and Frank start fighting. Because then it would REALLY be like WW2 w/ Currie being Hitler and Frank being Stalin and Snyder being America.
OK, thanks for the help getting rid of Hitler, Stalin. now I'm going to plant a story about cussing out Whitney or something.
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Fitz has had tons of time to bring up the snyder v. currie stuff and it's been known for a long time. why now?
It's been brought up before.
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Fitz has had tons of time to bring up the snyder v. currie stuff and it's been known for a long time. why now?
Well, it does get posters to post and raise more money. Now would be the perfect time, what with the apparent rift in the department.
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can't wait until we get rid of Currie and then Snyder and Frank start fighting. Because then it would REALLY be like WW2 w/ Currie being Hitler and Frank being Stalin and Snyder being America.
OK, thanks for the help getting rid of Hitler, Stalin. now I'm going to plant a story about cussing out Whitney or something.
that's ridiculous, rusty. snyder and martin and everyone but currie is more like however many states and commonwealths the united states had at the end of ww2 plus maybe great britain. and currie is hitler and germany and once kstate killed him, they all got along great and had like 70 years where they were the dominant country, plus maybe great britain.
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Bosses and employees not being all lovey dovey? Looks like we've got quite a scandal on our hands. Good job, BFFs goEMAW + Fitz. :zzz:
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Fitz has had tons of time to bring up the snyder v. currie stuff and it's been known for a long time. why now?
Well, it does get posters to post and raise more money. Now would be the perfect time, what with the apparent rift in the department.
Good point. Cat pig skin game doesnt start for 5 monthsb but crap is going down with the AD. Why not poor gasoline on the fire and try and drum up some new members?
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Bosses and employees not being all lovey dovey? Looks like we've got quite a scandal on our hands. Good job, BFFs goEMAW + Fitz. :zzz:
Your analogy falls down when you factor in that we pay money to watch these employees and their product. If those employees move on, like so many unhappy employees do, then there will be very different consequences for Currie than the manager at hometowncompany Inc who had it in for the Accounts Receivable team lead.
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Fitz has had tons of time to bring up the snyder v. currie stuff and it's been known for a long time. why now?
as ksudeuce said. It's been brought up before, namely when the Leavitt stuff went down.
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Fitz has had tons of time to bring up the snyder v. currie stuff and it's been known for a long time. why now?
as ksudeuce said. It's been brought up before, namely when the Leavitt stuff went down.
well, good. I missed fitz raising crap about it then. good for him.
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Fitz has had tons of time to bring up the snyder v. currie stuff and it's been known for a long time. why now?
as ksudeuce said. It's been brought up before, namely when the Leavitt stuff went down.
well, good. I missed fitz raising crap about it then. good for him.
I think Fitz is a fat piece of crap, but if he gets all the powertards into a frenzy, and that ends up contributing in some way to keeping Frank...well, he'll still be fat...and, he'll still be a piece of crap...but, I'll be less :shakesfist: toward him and more :dubious: toward him.
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I just fell off of my bed laughing
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So, Panjandrum, or anyone else ITK. What exactly did Snyder say about Currie or what is his beef with him? If Bill has a problem with Currie shouldn't Currie be gone by now? I like the idea of our coaches teaming up against the AD. :combofan:
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Frank will burn this place to the ground. Prepare yourselves.
Good. I'll light the match./
who's bringing the hot dogs and marshmallows?
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So, Panjandrum, or anyone else ITK. What exactly did Snyder say about Currie or what is his beef with him? If Bill has a problem with Currie shouldn't Currie be gone by now? I like the idea of our coaches teaming up against the AD. :combofan:
Who's going to fire Currie?
He was hand picked by Schulz and he's not going to fire him.
Bottom line, if you guys are waiting on The Animal to fix this, it ain't happenin, babes.
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:horrorsurprise:
What in eff is going on
Black flag ops are afoot. Double check badges at the main entrance.
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Fitz has had tons of time to bring up the snyder v. currie stuff and it's been known for a long time. why now?
Well, it does get posters to post and raise more money. Now would be the perfect time, what with the apparent rift in the department.
Good point. Cat pig skin game doesnt start for 5 monthsb but crap is going down with the AD. Why not poor gasoline on the fire and try and drum up some new members?
That and as everyone knows, Fitz is pretty terrible at his job. So there's that too.
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Bottom line, if you guys are waiting on The Animal to fix this, it ain't happenin, babes.
He knows Olive Garden gift cards aren't automatic.
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if we all rush currie at the same time, we can take that big rough rider out.
Yes, but we'll lose Ike. We can't lose Ike.
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So when Currie gets run out of town, we get to keep Frank, which is good.
The unintended fallout will be the future townie AD won't have the pull to prevent Sean Snyder Head Coach.
crap.
Should make for some incredible BBSing though as Sean burns the football program to the ground.
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So when Currie gets run out of town, we get to keep Frank, which is good.
The unintended fallout will be the future townie AD won't have the pull to prevent Sean Snyder Head Coach.
crap.
Should make for some incredible BBSing though as Sean burns the football program to the ground.
Will take.
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Fitz has had tons of time to bring up the snyder v. currie stuff and it's been known for a long time. why now?
Well, it does get posters to post and raise more money. Now would be the perfect time, what with the apparent rift in the department.
Good point. Cat pig skin game doesnt start for 5 monthsb but crap is going down with the AD. Why not poor gasoline on the fire and try and drum up some new members?
That and as everyone knows, Fitz is pretty terrible at his job. So there's that too.
God you people sound like the sissies who whinned about the Americans training Muslims to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.
It's not about why or what it means for later. If you can't take what Fitz has given you and convert the other half of the fan base against John Currie you have failed.
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BP
assistant football told a good friend of mine that "Frank Martin may soon be our Basketball Coach"! Coach Spurrier even mention Coach Martin in one
of their football meetings.
My other sources say that Coach Martin in "looking" @ U Illinois.
NO idea if FM is a finalist.
Illinois is a MUCH better job than K-State.....
#1 - State has PLAYERS
#2 - some of those PLAYERS actually want to play @ UI
Kansas/Kansas City kids don't seem to want to play in Manhattan,
yet GOOD players come there from N.Y., FL., CA., etc
K-State be careful, Coach Altman was "ran off" ... anyone remember the next 12 years? [I am trying to forget them] ?
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God you people sound like the sissies who whinned about the Americans training Muslims to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.
what the eff is this crap?
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BP
assistant football told a good friend of mine that "Frank Martin may soon be our Basketball Coach"! Coach Spurrier even mention Coach Martin in one
of their football meetings.
My other sources say that Coach Martin in "looking" @ U Illinois.
NO idea if FM is a finalist.
Illinois is a MUCH better job than K-State.....
#1 - State has PLAYERS
#2 - some of those PLAYERS actually want to play @ UI
Kansas/Kansas City kids don't seem to want to play in Manhattan,
yet GOOD players come there from N.Y., FL., CA., etc
K-State be careful, Coach Altman was "ran off" ... anyone remember the next 12 years? [I am trying to forget them] ?
Every rumor I read now sounds like some mutated version of the original Rivals-reported rumor.
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That post appears to have been written by an actual Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Good Lord, please tell me that guy didn't actually attend KSU. (or college in general.)
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That post appears to have been written by an actual Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Good Lord, please tell me that guy didn't actually attend KSU. (or college in general.)
are you new to ballplayers posts?
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Can't be too new as I recognized who "BP" was. Guess I just never noticed how atrocious his grammar was before.
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God you people sound like the sissies who whinned about the Americans training Muslims to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.
what the eff is this crap?
His general point was solid, the delivery left a lot to be desired
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Can't be too new as I recognized who "BP" was. Guess I just never noticed how atrocious his grammar was before.
hell, that one's even better than most. he'll usually throw a lot more random punctuation at you.
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That post appears to have been written by an actual Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Good Lord, please tell me that guy didn't actually attend KSU. (or college in general.) Guess I just never noticed how atrocious his grammar was before.
His "post" was fine. You are the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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That post appears to have been written by an actual Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Good Lord, please tell me that guy didn't actually attend KSU. (or college in general.) Guess I just never noticed how atrocious his grammar was before.
His "post" was fine. You are the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
:sdeek:
Yeah, it was "fine" if you love awful grammar, and content that is inane, irrelevant bullshit.
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so who was/is it? My post decoder ring is missing.
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love Stacie. When is Energy going to make an honest woman out of you?
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This is "V for Vendetta". Currie is the fat guy in power. nohighfives is "V".
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Not sure where to put this. Got it in a PM from a sports reporter that works for one of the AM stations because he didn't want to piss off the wrong people (his words) so he will go unnamed.
ref KSU:
"Toxic environment. People that hold the money at K-State want everything handled the way it was in the 50's. Puts ADs/Coaches in a tough spot."
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Not sure where to put this. Got it in a PM from a sports reporter that works for one of the AM stations because he didn't want to piss off the wrong people (his words) so he will go unnamed.
ref KSU:
"Toxic environment. People that hold the money at K-State want everything handled the way it was in the 50's. Puts ADs/Coaches in a tough spot."
LMAO if donors get added to this clusterfuck. L. M. A. O.
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Not sure where to put this. Got it in a PM from a sports reporter that works for one of the AM stations because he didn't want to piss off the wrong people (his words) so he will go unnamed.
ref KSU:
"Toxic environment. People that hold the money at K-State want everything handled the way it was in the 50's. Puts ADs/Coaches in a tough spot."
So... :opcat:
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the 50s were 60 years ago. people need to update their references.
does everyone realize that ww2 is almost equidistant between the civil war and today? it's amazing.
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It's not like the big money guys were big money guys in the 50's. How in the hell would they even know how things were handled back then?
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the 50s were 60 years ago. people need to update their references.
does everyone realize that ww2 is almost equidistant between the civil war and today? it's amazing.
I did not realize that. very crazy.
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the 50s were 60 years ago. people need to update their references.
does everyone realize that ww2 is almost equidistant between the civil war and today? it's amazing.
:thumbs:
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the 50s were 60 years ago. people need to update their references.
does everyone realize that ww2 is almost equidistant between the civil war and today? it's amazing.
:thumbs:
well. i think we all learned something today. I'll see you guys tomorrow.
/thread
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Not much info there but I'd figure I'd share.
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Not much info there but I'd figure I'd share.
yeah, appreciate it jaa
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I rcvd an email from Kirk Schulz about the HCFM situation
Nothing earth shaking but might provide a small bit of insight. I am not comfortable posting his email but I can share some of the key points. I do not have any close ties to Kirk. I had sent him a brief email expressing some of my concerns about the situation and he responded. His key points: 1) Kirk has complete confidence in the way Currie is handling this.
i've never used the name "the animal" myself, as so far as i can recall.
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Nothing earth shaking but might provide a small bit of insight. I am not comfortable posting his email but I can share some of the key points. I do not have any close ties to Kirk. I had sent him a brief email expressing some of my concerns about the situation and he responded. His key points: 1) Kirk has complete confidence in the way Currie is handling this. 2) Do NOT believe the majority of what is bing posted/reported on message boards and talk radio because most of it is wrong. 3) KSU Is doing everything possible to retain Frank. 4) If Frank leaves, our continued support will be even more important.
The Animal doing work.
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Obviously wasn't alive for the 50s, but I would assume there were teams cheating their asses off then as well. Or doing things "by the book" back then was a lot easier because the book was much smaller.
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Mark Emmert, president of the NCAA, commented on the JamSam mess during halftime of Baylor-Kentucky.
Basic message was that the NCAA puts forth 60 million dollars a year for travel expenses/misc. expenses for students, and schools have an opportunity to supply per diem. The situation should never have occurred because jamar should have had other resources available to him. He also said he would like to simplify the rule book, expects it to shrink in size considerably.
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Mark Emmert, president of the NCAA, commented on the JamSam mess during halftime of Baylor-Kentucky.
Basic message was that the NCAA puts forth 60 million dollars a year for travel expenses/misc. expenses for students, and schools have an opportunity to supply per diem. The situation should never have occurred because jamar should have had other resources available to him. He also said he would like to simplify the rule book, expects it to shrink in size considerably.
Also called jamar's actions an "obvious violation." Not sure if this belongs in this thread, but whatever.
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Mark Emmert, president of the NCAA, commented on the JamSam mess during halftime of Baylor-Kentucky.
Basic message was that the NCAA puts forth 60 million dollars a year for travel expenses/misc. expenses for students, and schools have an opportunity to supply per diem. The situation should never have occurred because jamar should have had other resources available to him. He also said he would like to simplify the rule book, expects it to shrink in size considerably.
he said No reason why (Jamar Samuels) should be turning somewhere else for finical support.
came off as an incredible silver spork douche bag.
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silver spook
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silver spook
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This situation is bringing out the worst in everyone.
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Mark Emmert, president of the NCAA, commented on the JamSam mess during halftime of Baylor-Kentucky.
Basic message was that the NCAA puts forth 60 million dollars a year for travel expenses/misc. expenses for students, and schools have an opportunity to supply per diem. The situation should never have occurred because jamar should have had other resources available to him. He also said he would like to simplify the rule book, expects it to shrink in size considerably.
Sounds like Emmert actually has no idea what the eff actually happened. Sounds like he heard the Curtis quote about Jamar needing some money for food and decided to use it as a cop-out and completely changed what happened. "O, he made a comment about Jamar needing money for food, I'll put out a quote making it sound like he meant Jamar needed money for food on the trip to Pitt even though the transaction occurred before Jamar even left for Pitt. That way, rather than talk about the actual issue I'll make it look like KSU didn't give Jamar money for food on the trip to Pitt." Nothing but a bullshit quote to make Jamar look greedy. eff that guy.
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The Animal.
in my personal experience with him, he's been nothing more than a politically-"correct", duplicitous bureaucrat, spewing meaningless responses that evade the questions. pretty much par for the course.
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The Animal.
in my personal experience with him, he's been nothing more than a politically-"correct", duplicitous bureaucrat, spewing meaningless responses that evade the questions. pretty much par for the course.
I give credit to anyone that can make a blazer work.
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Mark Emmert, president of the NCAA, commented on the JamSam mess during halftime of Baylor-Kentucky.
Basic message was that the NCAA puts forth 60 million dollars a year for travel expenses/misc. expenses for students, and schools have an opportunity to supply per diem. The situation should never have occurred because jamar should have had other resources available to him. He also said he would like to simplify the rule book, expects it to shrink in size considerably.
Sounds like Emmert actually has no idea what the eff actually happened. Sounds like he heard the Curtis quote about Jamar needing some money for food and decided to use it as a cop-out and completely changed what happened. "O, he made a comment about Jamar needing money for food, I'll put out a quote making it sound like he meant Jamar needed money for food on the trip to Pitt even though the transaction occurred before Jamar even left for Pitt. That way, rather than talk about the actual issue I'll make it look like KSU didn't give Jamar money for food on the trip to Pitt." Nothing but a bullshit quote to make Jamar look greedy. eff that guy.
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I hope some of frank anger leaves Currie and is redirected at this Mark Emmert guy. :pray:
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I wish I could post a clip of the whole interview with the NCAA president about the Jamar situation. What he basically said was the situation should have never happened, it was an obvious violation with no question about it, and if Currie had ignored it, the NCAA would have thrown the book at us.
But Frank would have tried to hide it and cover it up. No thanks Frank. Give me Currie any day of the week.
Some of you all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Currie did exactly the right thing, which takes courage and integrity, especially when one is being pressured by a slime ball like Frank.
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where is that from seven?
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I wish I could post a clip of the whole interview with the NCAA president about the Jamar situation. What he basically said was the situation should have never happened, it was an obvious violation with no question about it, and if Currie had ignored it, the NCAA would have thrown the book at us.
But Frank would have tried to hide it and cover it up. No thanks Frank. Give me Currie any day of the week.
Some of you all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Currie did exactly the right thing, which takes courage and integrity, especially when one is being pressured by a slime ball like Frank.
WHO IN THE eff? Address, please.
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Gotta be the Scout board
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yeah, kstatefans.
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Some of our fans need to be shot.
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Some of our fans need to be shot.
this
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I don't think covering up the Jamar situation would have been a good idea. The third party kind of throws a wrench in things.
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I don't think covering up the Jamar situation would have been a good idea. The third party kind of throws a wrench in things.
yeah
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I don't think covering up the Jamar situation would have been a good idea. The third party kind of throws a wrench in things.
I think it would've been possible to bullshit it for a day and then say something after 'cuse
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I don't think covering up the Jamar situation would have been a good idea. The third party kind of throws a wrench in things.
yeah
This might have been another "just ask me" moments like w/ the Miami job. He didn't really want that job, he just wanted them to want him. And Frank probably knows Jamar should have sat, but he wanted Currie to include him in that decision.
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I don't think covering up the Jamar situation would have been a good idea. The third party kind of throws a wrench in things.
yeah
This might have been another "just ask me" moments like w/ the Miami job. He didn't really want that job, he just wanted them to want him. And Frank probably knows Jamar should have sat, but he wanted Currie to include him in that decision.
agreed. Currie (or anyone) could go a long way with Frank by making him make the decision instead of telling him the decision.
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I don't think covering up the Jamar situation would have been a good idea. The third party kind of throws a wrench in things.
yeah
This might have been another "just ask me" moments like w/ the Miami job. He didn't really want that job, he just wanted them to want him. And Frank probably knows Jamar should have sat, but he wanted Currie to include him in that decision.
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I don't think covering up the Jamar situation would have been a good idea. The third party kind of throws a wrench in things.
I think it would've been possible to bullshit it for a day and then say something after 'cuse
If Currie, Frank, and Jamar were the only ones that knew about it, you are absolutely right. But I would guess there is some sort of log of when violations are reported from third parties to ensure prompt action is taken by the school. And when the third party is involved, who knows who they told? You think this guy would hesitate to call the NCAA at the same time? On top of that, you have Malone taking ownership of the cash to everyone in the world. But the main thing is the third party makes a situation like this so much harder to manage than just an internal discovery.
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has U. Illinois offerring Coach Drew their H.C. job
this time of the year, I get more calls about "jobs" than players...???
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captured the interview with president ncaa douche - i'll put it up on youtube asap
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claf ... I get this ZOO every March-May ...
... I have a Players Service - NOT - a Coaching Search Service
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maybe he needs a coaching search service
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Will isn't leaving. Frank isn't leaving. Enjoy your day fellas.
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Will isn't leaving. Frank isn't leaving. Enjoy your day fellas.
i'm enjoying the crap out of my day already. will take though.
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NO LAPEL PIN!!!!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zDKwXKpzSI8#t=123s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zDKwXKpzSI8#t=123s)
video of ncaa ceo - ksu related stuff begins around 2:03
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Ran to the store and seen a good old . His wife is real tight with a wife of a man that works for KSU athletics. There all pissed off to no end. The rumors have disrupted the Athletic departments and fan base(donors) so much that its doing harm to the university.
I asked him to be specific and he said the other wife said they know exactly what "organization " is behind the rumors. She said keeping an eye on them.
The jest I got was the KSU wife had chose her words carefully talking about it.
But one thing she made clear KSU is pissed at the false crap there having to deal with.
Jim Sicard
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NO LAPEL PIN!!!!!!
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Welcome to 24hrs ago
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Ran to the store and seen a good old . His wife is real tight with a wife of a man that works for KSU athletics. There all pissed off to no end. The rumors have disrupted the Athletic departments and fan base(donors) so much that its doing harm to the university.
I asked him to be specific and he said the other wife said they know exactly what "organization " is behind the rumors. She said keeping an eye on them.
The jest I got was the KSU wife had chose her words carefully talking about it.
But one thing she made clear KSU is pissed at the false crap there having to deal with.
Jim Sicard
yeah, the AD hates the crap out of GPC
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Ran to the store and seen a good old . His wife is real tight with a wife of a man that works for KSU athletics. There all pissed off to no end. The rumors have disrupted the Athletic departments and fan base(donors) so much that its doing harm to the university.
I asked him to be specific and he said the other wife said they know exactly what "organization " is behind the rumors. She said keeping an eye on them.
The jest I got was the KSU wife had chose her words carefully talking about it.
But one thing she made clear KSU is pissed at the false crap there having to deal with.
Jim Sicard
jesus christ that was impossible to read.
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Ran to the store and seen a good old . His wife is real tight with a wife of a man that works for KSU athletics. There all pissed off to no end. The rumors have disrupted the Athletic departments and fan base(donors) so much that its doing harm to the university.
I asked him to be specific and he said the other wife said they know exactly what "organization " is behind the rumors. She said keeping an eye on them.
The jest I got was the KSU wife had chose her words carefully talking about it.
But one thing she made clear KSU is pissed at the false crap there having to deal with.
Jim Sicard
Sounds like we need people to speak up and set the record straight
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Ran to the store and seen a good old . His wife is real tight with a wife of a man that works for KSU athletics. There all pissed off to no end. The rumors have disrupted the Athletic departments and fan base(donors) so much that its doing harm to the university.
I asked him to be specific and he said the other wife said they know exactly what "organization " is behind the rumors. She said keeping an eye on them.
The jest I got was the KSU wife had chose her words carefully talking about it.
But one thing she made clear KSU is pissed at the false crap there having to deal with.
Jim Sicard
yeah, the AD hates the crap out of GPC
Fitz hates the eff out of the AD and would do anything to sabotage what they are trying to do. Currie probably wouldn't give Fitz any insidery info and now he's just killing K-State.
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Was his name Gale?!
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Ran to the store and seen a good old . His wife is real tight with a wife of a man that works for KSU athletics. There all pissed off to no end. The rumors have disrupted the Athletic departments and fan base(donors) so much that its doing harm to the university.
I asked him to be specific and he said the other wife said they know exactly what "organization " is behind the rumors. She said keeping an eye on them.
The jest I got was the KSU wife had chose her words carefully talking about it.
But one thing she made clear KSU is pissed at the false crap there having to deal with.
Jim Sicard
yeah, the AD hates the crap out of GPC
Yep, pretty obvious. Wow, have to hand it to Fitz for risking so, so much.
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Tim Fitzgerald couldn't care less who he crosses. He eats pieces of crap like John Currie for breakfast.
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Tim Fitzgerald couldn't care less who he crosses. He eats pieces of crap like John Currie for breakfast.
When he came back from that eye hernia, something was different. This isn't the same old Tim Fitzgerald.
HE DOES NOT GIVE A eff!
If I were John Currie, I'd be calling RemaxCat and scheduling an appointment to get that rough ridin' house on the MLS, stat.
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Currie made a powerful enemy.
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Frank better enjoy this CBS gig, if he goes to SC he doesn't stand a pray at getting back into that studio for a couple years at the minimum
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Boardwalk Empire is the worst thing that ever happened to Fitz. He is about to squash himself. He kept referring to himself as Nucky. Little does he know that he is really Jimmy.
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Really though, this whole ordeal has been great. Endless entertainment. Can't wait to see what happens next!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zDKwXKpzSI8#t=123s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zDKwXKpzSI8#t=123s)
video of ncaa ceo - ksu related stuff begins around 2:03
T-Y, Tobias. I didn't get to watch this live. goEMAW's Wichita Strut'rs 'n cut'rs were hooping and spending money like no tomorrow all day.
So, players can ask this Emmert guy for money whenever they need some?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zDKwXKpzSI8#t=123s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zDKwXKpzSI8#t=123s)
video of ncaa ceo - ksu related stuff begins around 2:03
T-Y, Tobias. I didn't get to watch this live. goEMAW's Wichita Strut'rs 'n cut'rs were hooping and spending money like no tomorrow all day.
So, players can ask this Emmert guy for money whenever they need some?
No, but he sure as hell can make money off them
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zDKwXKpzSI8#t=123s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zDKwXKpzSI8#t=123s)
video of ncaa ceo - ksu related stuff begins around 2:03
T-Y, Tobias. I didn't get to watch this live. goEMAW's Wichita Strut'rs 'n cut'rs were hooping and spending money like no tomorrow all day.
So, players can ask this Emmert guy for money whenever they need some?
looks like someone has been watching pete thread titles and taking notes.
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There is a group of big donors wanting a meeting with the pres. tomorrow. Either currie is gone or their money is gone. Doesn't sound good for kstate. Source A.
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There is a group of big donors wanting a meeting with the pres. tomorrow. Either currie is gone or their money is gone. Doesn't sound good for kstate. Source A.
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Who's the new walk-on? Is his dad rich?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zDKwXKpzSI8#t=123s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zDKwXKpzSI8#t=123s)
video of ncaa ceo - ksu related stuff begins around 2:03
T-Y, Tobias. I didn't get to watch this live. goEMAW's Wichita Strut'rs 'n cut'rs were hooping and spending money like no tomorrow all day.
So, players can ask this Emmert guy for money whenever they need some?
looks like someone has been watching pete thread titles and taking notes.
he's absolutely bitb at it :eye:
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Source A!!!!!
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Hope thats true. You eff with EMAW, you flirt with career suicide.
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There is a group of big donors wanting a meeting with the pres. tomorrow. Either currie is gone or their money is gone. Doesn't sound good for kstate. Source A.
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There is a group of big donors wanting a meeting with the pres. tomorrow. Either currie is gone or their money is gone. Doesn't sound good for kstate. Source A.
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sounds like the Fitz is about to hit the fan...
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I don't even know what to believe anymore :runaway:
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do not care this is combo season folks. soak it up
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anyone feel like copy/pasting Cassidy's article re: Frank/Currie?
PM if necessary.
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anyone feel like copy/pasting Cassidy's article re: Frank/Currie?
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Currie better make nice or Frank will leave and make sure everyone knows it was Currie's fault
Cass complained about not getting return calls from Currie, someone from Frank's corner replied "welcome to frank's world"
Cass and Frank are not bff's. Anyone know this back story?
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anyone feel like copy/pasting Cassidy's article re: Frank/Currie?
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Here is my man Rob's article about the latest. He really does a great job for us...
March 25, 2012
Robert Cassidy, commentary
GoPowercat.com Senior Writer
Talk about it in Wabash Station
It's rarely the initial explosion that gets you. It's the radiation. It's the fallout.
If Frank Martin begrudgingly stomps away from Kansas State for South Carolina, a place where basketball comes sometime following the afterthought, the message sent by the move would only be the start, a warning shot aimed at Wildcat director of athletics John Currie and his administration.
This is Martin we're talking about. Don't expect him to go quietly, if he goes. His bus to the airport will have trouble moving because of the bodies stacked underneath it.
GoPowercat.com
Athletics director John Currie has changed K-State athletic finances for the better, but will he keep basketball coach Frank Martin at the school?
This is Martin, a man who still can't discuss the situation that led to his removal as coach at Miami Senior High School 14 years ago without becoming agitated. The events that led to his mentor Bob Huggins' firing at Cincinnati? Don't even get him started.
That's to say there's not a drop of water under any of his bridges.
And the bridge that links him to Currie's leadership at K-State will be hit with a flamethrower should he feel it can no longer exist. No one will bother to fiddle while it burns. Martin is truly the Michael Jordan of grudge holding. Not only is he great, he makes everyone around him better.
"It's not about money anymore," one source close to Martin said on Saturday, emphasizing this was about the Martin's relationship with Currie. "I don't know if he'll go (to South Carolina)."
But where and when he goes are unimportant in the larger scope. How he goes will mean much more.
Martin remains the basketball coach at Kansas State, but it's already begun. After complaining via text that I couldn't get Currie to return a phone call on Saturday night, a response from a different member of Martin's camp appeared immediately.
"Welcome to Frank's world," the message said. A relationship that has always been somewhat fractured is in the process of crumbling.
The words will only become louder and less guarded if Martin actually packs up his office. He prides himself on speaking his mind. The trait is a breath of fresh air until he feels you've wronged him. Then, it can suffocate you.
Truth be told, my personal relationship with Martin isn't what it once was. These days, I'm usually one of his least favorite people in the interview room.
He tells people how he feels about me. I tell people how I feel about him. We're not each other's biggest fans. So be it. As two men with jobs to do, we find ways to make it work.
Currie better find a way to the same, and do so immediately.
Associated Press
Frank Martin's relationship with his athletics director is fractured, but can it be fixed or will he leave K-State?
If he doesn't, word on Martin's distaste for Currie and the Wildcat administration will spread in basketball circles like news of the previous night's escapades in a fraternity house. Details will emerge. Dirty laundry will be tossed everywhere. That's the larger danger, and Currie better realize it.
Have fun finding a suitable replacement when the coach everyone views as one of the most honest men in the profession is occasionally taking aim at your face for the next 10 years. That hiring process ought to be a cinch.
Martin is a wonderful basketball coach. He's notched more than 20 victories in each of his five seasons in Manhattan. He wins NCAA Tournament games. He attracts national attention, recruits high-caliber athletes and his teams appear on national TV. This isn't about John Currie or anyone's feelings. This is about Kansas State, and it's time for Currie to take note.
Martin's colorful, often profane style may cut against Currie's vision of what a coach should be, but it leads to success and attention for the program. That all adds up to revenue. Lots of it.
See, that's the other thing about my own strained relationship with Martin: I respect him greatly despite our clash of styles. It's not my job to keep him in Manhattan. But if it were, I wouldn't let personal feelings complicate things. He sells Currie's tickets. He gives him bullet points for successful fundraising presentations. He wins over fans and makes his boss' job exponentially easier.
The unfinished basketball training facility that now sits in front of Bramlage Coliseum might be Currie's fundraising baby, but it's Martin's doing. It's time that Currie do something in return:
Change.
It's that simple. Change. Or at least pretend to. Then do what you do best: Sell it.
Get on the phone and schedule a meeting. Give Martin more money. But, more importantly, make sure your coach knows things will be different. No more micro managing. No more asking him to write letters to fans about swearing. No more snap decisions to suspend his players without Martin's input.
Make promises. Make concessions. Let him have control. Then, have a press conference, announce a contract extension and deny that a rift ever existed. Make the media and your fans look dumb as you and your smiling coach lob compliments at each other from behind a podium.
Nobody will mind the ruse. Really, they won't.
Winning is the only thing that makes people happy, and Martin does just that. Don't beg, just change. Because hiring a new basketball coach is only good for an athletic director if that coach is an upgrade. And best wishes on finding one that will be viewed as more successful than Martin by K-State fans or the national media.
Just remember, the decline of a major program on your watch isn't so good for the old resume.
It's in Currie's nature to pay so much attention to details that he becomes a nit-picking annoyance to his coaches. It's not difficult to see the larger picture, though. And that, now more than ever, is needed to save his relationship with Martin.
Is it kissing up? Maybe. But it's necessary. It sure beats the mushroom cloud that will appear should an angry Martin board a plane for South Carolina.
Nobody wants to deal with that, especially not John Currie.
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Thanks creepy cat... it's a good article
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Thanks creepy cat... it's a good article
I know we're supposed to hate gpc and stuff, but I find myself enjoying many of Rob's tweets/stories.
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Thanks creepy cat... it's a good article
I know we're supposed to hate gpc and stuff, but I find myself enjoying many of Rob's tweets/stories.
I think the mods support Rob.
I do, at least.
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Thanks creepy cat... it's a good article
I know we're supposed to hate gpc and stuff, but I find myself enjoying many of Rob's tweets/stories.
I think the mods support Rob.
I do, at least.
yeah, rob is great. way too good for GPC.
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Thanks creepy cat... it's a good article
wow. it's not good. it's great.
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You guys are stupid for liking Cassidy. That was truly horrible. "I got a text. 'Welcome to Frank's world,' it said. I don't have to tell you what that means. FRANK IS ON THE VERGE OF MICHAEL JORDAN GRUDGE BOMBING THE eff OUT OF EVERYONE IN THE PATH OF HIS BUS TO THE AIRPORT UNTIL THEY ARE rough ridin' DEAD AS eff!"
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Thanks creepy cat... it's a good article
I know we're supposed to hate gpc and stuff, but I find myself enjoying many of Rob's tweets/stories.
goEMAW.com has ALWAYS been pro-Cassidy. Always.
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You guys are stupid for liking Cassidy. That was truly horrible. "I got a text. 'Welcome to Frank's world,' it said. I don't have to tell you what that means. FRANK IS ON THE VERGE OF MICHAEL JORDAN GRUDGE BOMBING THE eff OUT OF EVERYONE IN THE PATH OF HIS BUS TO THE AIRPORT UNTIL THEY ARE rough ridin' DEAD AS eff!"
I dont understand your opinion because your review of that article made it sound absolutely awesome.
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You guys are stupid for liking Cassidy.
why?
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Cassidy is right. It usually is the radiation that gets you.
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meh. Pete, daris, kk, etc. said what cassidy said far more eloquently and like a week ago.
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meh. Pete, daris, kk, etc. said what cassidy said far more eloquently and like a week ago.
Manbeck said the same thing in the Mercury in townie paper reporting style.
Go make us a friggin sandwich cassidy.
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meh. Pete, daris, kk, etc. said what cassidy said far more eloquently and like a week ago.
Manbeck said the same thing in the Mercury in townie paper reporting style.
Go make us a friggin sandwich cassidy.
Yeah, that would have been nice to read if I was a subscriber. Give me a friggin break, merc.
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meh. Pete, daris, kk, etc. said what cassidy said far more eloquently and like a week ago.
Manbeck said the same thing in the Mercury in townie paper reporting style.
Go make us a friggin sandwich cassidy.
yes. 100% with what kk said. that does not discount either though. they both deserve credit, as do the people that employ them for allowing it i think.
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meh. Pete, daris, kk, etc. said what cassidy said far more eloquently and like a week ago.
Manbeck said the same thing in the Mercury in townie paper reporting style.
Go make us a friggin sandwich cassidy.
yes. 100% with what kk said. that does not discount either though. they both deserve credit, as do the people that employ them for allowing it i think.
It does take going out on a limb a bit to jab at the AD like that when you're already not on good terms. So, I'll give them credit for that.
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That's a good point Panjandrum. I guess I do feel a little more liberated on goEMAW.com to call people out under my screen name than I otherwise might as an intrepid reporter covering the Kansas State sports beat.
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Yes, good job of getting played by Frank's people, small timey reporters.
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Yes, good job of getting played by Frank's people, small timey reporters.
Do you want to do more gagksu posts? Now seems like a good time.
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Yes, good job of getting played by Frank's people, small timey reporters.
Do you want to do more gagksu posts? Now seems like a good time.
when doesn't?
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Seems like it would save us a ton of trouble if the mods just pinned this thread and dropped the 2012 part of the name. :dunno:
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Seems like it would save us a ton of trouble if the mods just pinned this thread and dropped the 2012 part of the name. :dunno:
and deleted all of your posts.
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Cassidy's media buddies are sure jerking it to his column. Haven't seen an ass kissing like that since Kent Babb revealed that Curtis Malone didn't like Frank.
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old gchats/emails ... :lol:
5/18/09 - day currie was hired
me: FIREJONCURRIE.COM is available!
friend: buy it now
friend: (except it's JoHn Currie)
me: FIREJOHNCURRIE.COM is available!
1/19/10 - hate begins
Me: The more I hear about John Currie ... the less I think of him.
1/22/10 - theory
I think Schulz brought Currie in to fill the athletic department with genuine people with high integrity to make up for the eff of a mess Krause and his cronies (including Snyds) left. And Frank might fit that description, but he's also animated; he cusses; ESPN puts its cameras on him, not because he's smiling, but because he's ranting and raving and cursing and spitting. He's also dark-skinned, not a Midwestern and, at the end of the day, many K-State fans will never, ever be able to relate to him.
So right now he's winning games, and fans like that. But Schulz truly believes (and he's told Currie to believe the same thing, if he doesn't already) that K-Staters would rather have good people they can relate to rather than wins. And, you know what, he's probably right.
Currie is going to make things miserable for Frank, because the administration doesn't want him around. If he weren't winning, it would be easy. I think they truly hope this team collapses this year, or Frank gets an opportunity to move up at season's end.
They certainly don't want to throw money they don't have on a guy who is not "K-State".
1/22/10 - don't like currie
friend: ok, correct me if I'm wrong here:
Currie is weird, right?
just odd
kind of nerdy
me: yeah - i dont like him.
10/15/10 - love schulz, hate currie
me: i really like schulz.
currie can [NSFW!]
but i like schulz
10/17/10 - friend wants deb fired
friend: Do college basketball programs usually have to share their practice facilities with the women's team? Seems like if Deb is getting an equal share of one of the nicest facilities in the nation, she should have to produce more than she has. There should be no excuse. If she can't bring in better recruits, win in the NCAA tourney and sell more tickets to games, then she should be done. I don't really care if K-State has a good women's program, but maybe this would give Currie some leverage to fire Deb. That would be a positive in my opinion.
me: what about title ix?
friend: oh yeah
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Rake, I started to think you and I might be the same person and it's a weird Tyler Durden thing until the Deb part. My women's hoops fan friend would never want Deb fired.
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Rake, I started to think you and I might be the same person and it's a weird Tyler Durden thing until the Deb part. My women's hoops fan friend would never want Deb fired.
Look at Trim, just wishing he could take credit for all of Rake's 'shopped headlines. :lol:
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But, but, but... Currie is hoarding cash and raising funds for facility upgrades! He's awesome!
:flush:
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But, but, but... Currie is hoarding cash and raising funds for facility upgrades! He's awesome!
:flush:
wtf?
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But, but, but... Currie is hoarding cash and raising funds for facility upgrades! He's awesome!
:flush:
wtf?
See "Just for you, 'Pad" thread. TIA.
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But, but, but... Currie is hoarding cash and raising funds for facility upgrades! He's awesome!
:flush:
I don't find the timing of this post appropriate. :shakesfist:
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3. South Carolina would like Kansas State’s Frank Martin. But if Martin is seriously interested in leaving Kansas State (he has publicly said he hasn’t talked to anyone), he should look at Mississippi State, which is a better basketball job than South Carolina. There is plenty of talent in the state, more recent success in the sport, and a more passionate fan base for hoops.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/56501/3-point-shot-smu-eyes-buzz-williams
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title of that blog post
SMU eyes Buzz Williams
BWAHAHAHAHA!
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anyone feel like copy/pasting Cassidy's article re: Frank/Currie?
PM if necessary.
Currie better make nice or Frank will leave and make sure everyone knows it was Currie's fault
Cass complained about not getting return calls from Currie, someone from Frank's corner replied "welcome to frank's world"
Cass and Frank are not bff's. Anyone know this back story?
didn't get past the 2nd paragraph which is incomprehensible. Frank leaving would be "a warning shot aimed at Wildcat director of athletics John Currie and his administration."
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haven't there already been plenty of 'warning shots'
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Christ, some of you are hard to please. Your lives must be miserable.
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can someone summarize this thread for me in like one paragraph? tia.
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can someone summarize this thread for me in like one paragraph? tia.
eff
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can someone summarize this thread for me in like one paragraph? tia.
eff
LOL
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damn. now i'm going to have to read it.
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from espn:
3. South Carolina would like Kansas State’s Frank Martin. But if Martin is seriously interested in leaving Kansas State (he has publicly said he hasn’t talked to anyone), he should look at Mississippi State, which is a better basketball job than South Carolina. There is plenty of talent in the state, more recent success in the sport, and a more passionate fan base for hoops.
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from espn:
3. South Carolina would like Kansas State’s Frank Martin. But if Martin is seriously interested in leaving Kansas State (he has publicly said he hasn’t talked to anyone), he should look at Mississippi State, which is a better basketball job than South Carolina. There is plenty of talent in the state, more recent success in the sport, and a more passionate fan base for hoops.
you sure you didn't get that from luke?
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good article (also from Luke...sorry for posting article stuff, i just find it interesting, I'll stop):
http://www.lostlettermen.com/frank-martin-looks-ready-to-bolt-manhattan/
Let me tell you something about Martin: Where he came from in Miami, people don’t take kindly to snitches. And they certainly don’t like people going over their head and cutting them out of the decision process that affects their job. Whether Martin is right to feel this way is open to debate.
But Martin appears furious, as he is reportedly interested in the South Carolina job that, at best, would be a lateral move. Martin is no dummy, though. He knows how big a blow this could be to Currie, who is overseeing an incredibly successful time for K-State football and men’s basketball.
Martin leaving Kansas State altogether over this seems very rash, hard-headed and spiteful. In other words, it seems exactly like Frank Martin.
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God damn it Frank, if anyone understands that snitches get stitches it's us. Let's keep this in the family and handle this internally.
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from espn:
3. South Carolina would like Kansas State’s Frank Martin. But if Martin is seriously interested in leaving Kansas State (he has publicly said he hasn’t talked to anyone), he should look at Mississippi State, which is a better basketball job than South Carolina. There is plenty of talent in the state, more recent success in the sport, and a more passionate fan base for hoops.
you sure you didn't get that from luke?
:lol:
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Martin leaving Kansas State altogether over this seems very rash, hard-headed and spiteful. In other words, it seems exactly like Frank Martin.
:D
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ok, i read it and now i'm back. nothings happening... nothings happening... its over. a lot of people in the audience look pissed.
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http://www.lostlettermen.com/frank-martin-looks-ready-to-bolt-manhattan/
Martin leaving Kansas State altogether over this seems very rash, hard-headed and spiteful. In other words, it seems exactly like Frank Martin.
cassidy does a much better job of trashing martin, imo.
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Thanks creepy cat... it's a good article
I know we're supposed to hate gpc and stuff, but I find myself enjoying many of Rob's tweets/stories.
I think he absolutely killed it with that article. Well written 'ish right there. Color me impressed.
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Monday 3/26 Rumors(not coming from me at all) state Illinois wants to talk to Martin. If this is true, then it could delay things with Martin a little. If a program like Illinois wants to talk, you have to listen. Seems like John Groce is the popular name for the Illinois job, but I wouldn't blame them for looking at Martin. I married into an Ohio Bobcat Family(wife's uncle played for Ohio), but I have no idea what Groce would do.
Luke?
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USC is a pawn in a power play. Ill may be a legit EMAW concern if the behind the scenes are as bad as it sounds.
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Monday 3/26 Rumors(not coming from me at all) state Illinois wants to talk to Martin. If this is true, then it could delay things with Martin a little. If a program like Illinois wants to talk, you have to listen. Seems like John Groce is the popular name for the Illinois job, but I wouldn't blame them for looking at Martin. I married into an Ohio Bobcat Family(wife's uncle played for Ohio), but I have no idea what Groce would do.
Luke?
is that from that shitty south carolina geocities website?
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Illinois actually showing real interest in Martin would only confirm that Illinois is not that great of a job.
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frank's an bad person.
but he wins games, which is really all i care about.
i look at the pool of available coaches right now, and can't think of one that would likely be as successful here as martin has been the last five years.
because of the above two points, every effort needs to be made to keep him here. tons of money, getting rid of currie, whatever.
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Illinois actually showing real interest in Martin would only confirm that Illinois is not that great of a job.
Splitting hairs. The perception of the job by our fans is all that matters.
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Illinois actually showing real interest in Martin would only confirm that Illinois is not that great of a job.
It never was.
Alabama and Oklahoma were able to nab the hot VCU coaches back in the day. Illinois couldn't.
There you go.
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Is there a worse school than Ohio University?
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Is there a worse school than Ohio University?
If push came to shove, I feel pretty confident that we could lure Groce here with little to no problem.
Did you guys know he makes $250k (plus incentives)?
We could up his salary about six or seven times over without blinking.
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The University of South Carolina has announced that Frank Martin will be the next head basketball coach. When reached for comment, Coach Martin said "I'm excited for the opportunity. I've been working with cocks in the athletics department for years, so I expect it to be a smooth transition." Casey Scott had no comment.
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CollegeBB twitter:
K-State's Martin paid his former prep players es.pn/H4SHKw
Currie fistpumps
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CollegeBB twitter:
K-State's Martin paid his former prep players es.pn/H4SHKw
Currie fistpumps
We should all be fistpumping. The more attention this gets, the better for K-State.
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Originally Posted by Cocklover
GoGamecocks.com @gogamecocks
Close to a hoops coach?: USC Board of Trustees just announced a 10 am special meeting on Tuesday to discuss a "contractual matter"
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Jan. 23, 2012
MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State Athletics Director John Currie announced today staff promotions for four departmental administrators.
Casey Scott has been promoted to Senior Associate Athletics Director for Operations and Event Management, Laird Veatch to Senior Associate Athletics Director for Strategic Initiatives, Chad Weiberg to Senior Associate Athletics Director for Development and Mike Clark to Senior Director of Development.
“Casey, Chad, Laird and Mike are key members of our leadership team and are well-respected by all of our staff members,” Currie said. “While our overall athletics staff may be among the smallest in the Big 12 Conference, I believe they work as hard and with as much maximum purpose and efficiency as any staff in the entire country."
A 27-year veteran in the intercollegiate athletics profession, including the last 10 at K-State, Scott leads the Athletics Operations unit, and manages the department’s game management and special event operations. He also supervises the offices of athletics communications and Powercat Video, the sports medicine and strength and conditioning staffs, while serving as the Senior Staff administrator for the sports of baseball, men’s basketball, and men’s and women’s golf.
“Casey has provided our department tremendous leadership in many areas, much of it behind the scenes, as we continue towards our vision of a model intercollegiate athletics program,” added Currie. “I appreciate the perspective, values and experience he brings to the table each and every day.”
:lol:
http://www.kstatesports.com/genrel/012312aaa.html
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Whoever came up with the initial Matt Painter/Purdue/Mizzou comparison is really spot on.
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Originally Posted by Cocklover
GoGamecocks.com @gogamecocks
Close to a hoops coach?: USC Board of Trustees just announced a 10 am special meeting on Tuesday to discuss a "contractual matter"
Are there better bbs user names than what you get with South Carolina?
I would be Pete_loves_cocks_not_balls
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male genitals Gobbler with a Turkey avatar
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
Just got off the phone with Frank Martin's agent. When asked about South Carolina he tells me, "We have had conversations."
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Originally Posted by Cocklover
GoGamecocks.com @gogamecocks
Close to a hoops coach?: USC Board of Trustees just announced a 10 am special meeting on Tuesday to discuss a "contractual matter"
Are there better bbs user names than what you get with South Carolina?
I would be Pete_loves_cocks_not_balls
I'd leave mine the same.
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is this really going to happen? i didn't take it seriously until this contract thing.
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:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
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If John Currie, Jamie Vaughn and Casey Scott have an ounce of integrity between the 3 of them, their resignation letters are sitting in The Animal's inbox.
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#notworried
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
Just got off the phone with Frank Martin's agent. When asked about South Carolina he tells me, "We have had conversations."
AKA, tell Currie to ante up BITCHHES!!!!
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I guess it is now showtime for Currie.
He has been good at putting new drapes on the Department, now lets see if he can sell the house.
Now we find out how good of an AD Currie really is.
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Is there any way Currie retains Martin with no raise? I mean Frank can't possibly really want to go to South Carolina, can he?
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If John Currie, Jamie Vaughn and Casey Scott have an ounce of integrity between the 3 of them, their resignation letters are sitting in The Animal's inbox.
Who the eff is this Casey Scoot and why has he made it his mission to upset Frank?
Does Casey Scott even like KSU?
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So today has to be the day right? I'm not up for another week of speculation
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I really hate all of this. :blindfold:
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If John Currie, Jamie Vaughn and Casey Scott have an ounce of integrity between the 3 of them, their resignation letters are sitting in The Animal's inbox.
Who the eff is this Casey Scoot and why has he made it his mission to upset Frank?
Does Casey Scott even like KSU?
Zombie alert.
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If John Currie, Jamie Vaughn and Casey Scott have an ounce of integrity between the 3 of them, their resignation letters are sitting in The Animal's inbox.
Who the eff is this Casey Scoot and why has he made it his mission to upset Frank?
Does Casey Scott even like KSU?
I don't know that he dislikes KSU so much as he is a hateful racist
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I want to punch each and every one of you Flighttracker guys right now.
You should be monitoring every bird out of Manhattan (even though they are likely going from NYC).
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
Just got off the phone with Frank Martin's agent. When asked about South Carolina he tells me, "We have had conversations."
AKA, tell Currie to ante up BITCHHES!!!!
this is why fanning needs to take charge of goEMAW. he rough ridin' gets it. stop making this place gpc west.
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#FYBS.
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Is there any way Currie retains Martin with no raise? I mean Frank can't possibly really want to go to South Carolina, can he?
Possibly, with a public flogging of himself, Vaughn and Scott.
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I really hate all of this. :blindfold:
This.
:blindfold: :bang: :ohno:
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**Pulling the "pay frank" shirt out of the closet**
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#notworried
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So today has to be the day right? I'm not up for another week of speculation
:ohno:
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If John Currie, Jamie Vaughn and Casey Scott have an ounce of integrity between the 3 of them, their resignation letters are sitting in The Animal's inbox.
Who the eff is this Casey Scoot and why has he made it his mission to upset Frank?
Does Casey Scott even like KSU?
Zombie alert.
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Some of us EMAW's have been preparing properly for this.
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
Just got off the phone with Frank Martin's agent. When asked about South Carolina he tells me, "We have had conversations."
Game on.
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Hypothetical:
What if Currie saves K-State from harm by letting Frank go.
Of course this is a ll contegent on hiring the next John Wooden (cheating and all)
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Michael DeCourcy ? @tsnmike
South Carolina BOT will meet to consider contract offer to Frank Martin of Kansas State. Details to come on http://Sportingnews.com
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Is there any way Currie retains Martin with no raise? I mean Frank can't possibly really want to go to South Carolina, can he?
I was told once in business "if you are going to bluff your best deal to try to get them to be better you better be prepared to walk away when they don't call it. If you don't you will never be able to get better deals out of them again." In other words, if Martin is bluffing on SC and Currie calls it then Martin either has to walk away or the next time he has an "opportunity" he won't even get a sniff from us on it being believable.
I think Currie knows frank is hot headed enough to leave over it so he will give him a raise to stay. but if this turns into a either Frank stays or Currie stays my money is on Currie. Currie has raised a ton of money for the school and most of it is in football. Football makes us money, basketball doesn't make us the same amount. A bad basketball coach will bring down basketball. A bad AD can bring down the whole athletic department, like Krause tried to do. this is just IMHO
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Cole Manbeck ? @Cole_Manbeck
Prominent donors to K-State athletics have told me they're done giving money to K-State if Frank Martin is gone and John Currie remains
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Cole Manbeck ? @Cole_Manbeck
Prominent donors to K-State athletics have told me they're done giving money to K-State if Frank Martin is gone and John Currie remains
my god, this is fantastic.
maybe the greatest ksu bbs'ing day in the history of our program?
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Cole Manbeck ? @Cole_Manbeck
Prominent donors to K-State athletics have told me they're done giving money to K-State if Frank Martin is gone and John Currie remains
and boom goes the dynamite
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Cole Manbeck ? @Cole_Manbeck
Prominent donors to K-State athletics have told me they're done giving money to K-State if Frank Martin is gone and John Currie remains
:sdeek:
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Cole Manbeck ? @Cole_Manbeck
Prominent donors to K-State athletics have told me they're done giving money to K-State if Frank Martin is gone and John Currie remains
my god, this is fantastic.
maybe the greatest ksu bbs'ing day in the history of our program?
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Cole Manbeck ? @Cole_Manbeck
Prominent donors to K-State athletics have told me they're done giving money to K-State if Frank Martin is gone and John Currie remains
We have stupid people with money.
I am on the wait to see who Currie hires first, then withhold you money if you don't like the hire.
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meek:
As it was described to me, a deal with Frank Martin and South Carolina is very, very close. Not done. But close.
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What a bunch of bastards we have in our athletic department. This whole thing is so juvenile and stupid.
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What a bunch of bastards we have in our athletic department. This whole thing is so juvenile and stupid.
yeah, pretty much.
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Cole Manbeck ? @Cole_Manbeck
Prominent donors to K-State athletics have told me they're done giving money to K-State if Frank Martin is gone and John Currie remains
We have stupid people with money.
I am on the wait to see who Currie hires first, then withhold you money if you don't like the hire.
I'm sure the donors would all change their minds if we end up with Pearl.
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it seems like garth might be behind some of this, ya know? :love:
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it seems like garth might be behind some of this, ya know? :love:
RALLY!
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Cole Manbeck ? @Cole_Manbeck
Prominent donors to K-State athletics have told me they're done giving money to K-State if Frank Martin is gone and John Currie remains
We have stupid people with money.
I am on the wait to see who Currie hires first, then withhold you money if you don't like the hire.
I'm sure the donors would all change their minds if we end up with Pearl.
Pearl has too many stings right now. But a Pearl type with our super clean AD would be a good idea.
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What a bunch of bastards we have in our athletic department. This whole thing is so juvenile and stupid.
yeah, pretty much.
Of the dumb places and the dumb reasons to lose a good coach, leave it up to K-State to try to be the dumbest at both.
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#notworried
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#notworried
#shittingmypantsworried
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GoGamecocks.com ? @gogamecocks
Breaking: Sources - USC to hire Kansas State coach Frank Martin http://bit.ly/GQrd0w
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Oh man, I'm actually relieved.
No way this happens.
If it does,I'm saving my meltdown for Currie anger.
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#notworried
be worried. it's happening.
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GoGamecocks.com ? @gogamecocks
Breaking: Sources - USC to hire Kansas State coach Frank Martin http://bit.ly/GQrd0w
kind of stupid on Franks part. Better schools would have opened up. He went for the first girl to put on and guess what she has crabs, Frank
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I bet Frank is wishing he would have taken the job at Depaul right about now.
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He's going to regret it when they get all super racist on him. Currie is bad but south carolina is just racist
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Oh man, I'm actually relieved.
No way this happens.
If it does,I'm saving my meltdown for Currie anger.
I will wait till Currie makes his hire, then I will meltdown.
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Welp, about time to go to the liquor store. eff. eff eff eff.
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Don't break my heart, Frank :cry:
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is this seriously happening. effing south carolina.. really.. eff.
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I don't care I'm still going to be pissed at Frank Martin... :chainsaw: :chainsaw: :chainsaw: And he always talks about Loyalty...
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you can go eff yourself Frank.
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Don't do me like this Frank. Don't.
:holdingbackmeltdown:
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:goodbyecruelworld:
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everything comes from SC side right now. When it comes from ours. FFFFUUUUUU....
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Oh man, I'm actually relieved.
No way this happens.
If it does,I'm saving my meltdown for Currie anger.
I will wait till Currie makes his hire, then I will meltdown.
Hey guys, I just got punched in the balls but am going to wait until it happens a second time before I get worried.
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twitter is blowing up. This isn't looking good.
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you can go eff yourself Frank.
This needs to be directed at Currie.
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wait....does this mean Will stays? :curse:
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My meltdown meter is really getting wound up.
Saul, order more bandwidth.
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Jeff Goodman ? @GoodmanCBS
Frank Martin to South Carolina is NOT done yet. Could it happen today? Absolutely. However, nothing done yet
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i will cry frank. really hard. please don't do this :pray:
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you can go eff yourself Frank.
This needs to be directed at Currie.
Somewhat, but I'm more pissed at Frank than Currie right now.
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you can go eff yourself Frank.
Both deserve blame, but Frank is being a rough ridin' baby.
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"Hello, Olive Garden"
"Yes, I need a table for 2 for tonight. the name is Schulz"
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i will cry frank. really hard. please don't do this :pray:
Hopefully this is the biggest "scare KSU into paying Frank" we've ever seen. However I'm 'fraid it real.
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:zzz:
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#notworried
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:zzz:
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Frank just wants to go to the $EC so he can pay his players. makes since.
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Cole Manbeck ? @Cole_Manbeck
Prominent donors to K-State athletics have told me they're done giving money to K-State if Frank Martin is gone and John Currie remains
We have stupid people with money.
I am on the wait to see who Currie hires first, then withhold you money if you don't like the hire.
If you wait til then and the hire sucks, you're already mumped and stuck with it. By threatening now, you can accomplish something with it.
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#notworried
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http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/26/3514005/report-south-carolina-to-hire.html
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:bang:
http://trustees.sc.edu/agenda.html
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i will cry frank. really hard. please don't do this :pray:
Hopefully this is the biggest "scare KSU into paying Frank" we've ever seen. However I'm 'fraid it real.
guess who retweeted this: "and now I understand why KU fans dislike Roy Williams. Sorry if Frank leaves, I hope he fails at USC."
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If he goes to sc, he is a rough ridin' moron. he won't be successful there. he had a great head start with Beaz and Walker to build from....he won't have that at SC. they will hate his wife. they will hate him for marrying her. he will hate the place in a few years and he will be coaching a mid major in 5
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Cole Manbeck ? @Cole_Manbeck
Prominent donors to K-State athletics have told me they're done giving money to K-State if Frank Martin is gone and John Currie remains
We have stupid people with money.
I am on the wait to see who Currie hires first, then withhold you money if you don't like the hire.
If you wait til then and the hire sucks, you're already mumped and stuck with it. By threatening now, you can accomplish something with it.
So, we fire Currie after he hires the suck ass coach then fires his but for being stupid. I see no problems.
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If he goes to sc, he is a rough ridin' moron. he won't be successful there. he had a great head start with Beaz and Walker to build from....he won't have that at SC. they will hate his wife. they will hate him for marrying her. he will hate the place in a few years and he will be coaching a mid major in 5 K-State again after Currie leaves.
:crossfingers:
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Will be hilarious when Katz and Frank just go and don't even try to get a deal from KSU. The way is rough ridin' lit.
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If he goes to sc, he is a rough ridin' moron. he won't be successful there. he had a great head start with Beaz and Walker to build from....he won't have that at SC. they will hate his wife. they will hate him for marrying her. he will hate the place in a few years and he will be coaching a mid major in 5
Nope, he'll do pretty well b/c he's pretty good at being a basketball coach. We're going to suck pretty bad, though.
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If he goes to sc, he is a rough ridin' moron. he won't be successful there. he had a great head start with Beaz and Walker to build from....he won't have that at SC. they will hate his wife. they will hate him for marrying her. he will hate the place in a few years and he will be coaching a mid major in 5
He'll be fine. I really hope he fails, but he can do what he did at K-State at USC, easy peasy.
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http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/26/3514005/report-south-carolina-to-hire.html
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i will cry frank. really hard. please don't do this :pray:
Hopefully this is the biggest "scare KSU into paying Frank" we've ever seen. However I'm 'fraid it real.
guess who retweeted this: "and now I understand why KU fans dislike Roy Williams. Sorry if Frank leaves, I hope he fails at USC."
The difference here is that KU fired their AD to keep Roy happy. K-State is not that intelligent.
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I won't blame Frank or hate him if he leaves. I will not wish him success though.
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
Source close to Frank Martin just told me Martin has agreed in principle to become South Carolina's coach. Press conference tomorrow.
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parish:
Frank Martin is absolutely in play at South Carolina. But our sources tell us a deal isn't done yet. Story: cbsprt.co/H6Y0vP
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
Source close to Frank Martin just told me Martin has agreed in principle to become South Carolina's coach. Press conference tomorrow.
wow.
#worried
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wow. so this is how it ends huh? damn. :frown:
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I, for one, am looking forward to watching the bridge burning we were all promised.
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The thing that stings the most is SC seems like such an awful job.
That and we are probably going to suck at basketball for the foreseeable future.
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
Casey Scott just told me Martin has agreed in principle to become South Carolina's coach. Press conference tomorrow.
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I'll definitely hate and mock frank if he leaves. I love hating and mocking clowns. It's fun as crap.
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I won't blame Frank or hate him if he leaves. I will not wish him success though.
I will. With every fiber I have.
I loved him dearly, but don't think that love cannot mutate into venomous hatred. It can, and is.
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So does Frank have to end his marriage with Anya before they move there, or can their marriage be grandfathered in?
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g'bye angel. you were beautiful. :cry:
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I'll definitely hate and mock frank if he leaves. I love hating and mocking clowns. It's fun as crap.
Yeah, would be diff if it was UConn or something, but I am definitely here.
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We are good people, why is this happening :frown:
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I'll definitely hate and mock frank if he leaves. I love hating and mocking clowns. It's fun as crap.
The presser where he tries to explain why he left without sounding like a crybaby clown should be hilarious.
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It's been real, Frank.
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"Hello, Olive Garden"
"Yes, I need a table for 2 for tonight. the name is Schulz"
This isn't getting enough credit for being timely and hilarious.
Breadsticks! :excited:
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Awesome. Now, maybe Snyder will die and/or retire and we can go back to sucking at everything. It will be nice to not hagve any sports to give a eff about and interfere with my productivity.
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I'll definitely hate and mock frank if he leaves. I love hating and mocking clowns. It's fun as crap.
Yes. I already hate that math-teaching son of a bitch.
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I will hate everyone who got paid a ton of money by my school to do what is best for it then worked their hardest to burn it down.
That list includes everyone from Currie to Frank to Casey Scott to anyone else who gets in the radius of my hate scatter-gun.
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I'll definitely hate and mock frank if he leaves. I love hating and mocking clowns. It's fun as crap.
The presser where he tries to explain why he left without sounding like a crybaby clown should be hilarious.
this. cant wait actually.
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i don't really see him succeeding anywhere else. it's possible, but he had a head start here with huggins recruits. don't see him building a program.
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g'bye angel. you were beautiful. :cry:
one of the biggest losses IMHO :embarrassed:
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Dan Wolken just had a great tweet. :lol:
@DanWolken Eddie Fogler also took the South Carolina job because he hated his AD. Now he's a consultant
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What a croc of crap.
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Huggins recruits and the DCA connection. Maybe he'll go the "sign a crap load of transfers" route?
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"honesty" - check the pre-game on Saturday when he was clearly asked about the Carolina job
"loyalty" - SMH
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Sorry but Frank is a dumb ass for going to South Carolina.
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wait, you didn't photoshop that? sweet jesus.
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I am not sure how I will handle it if his elite mentions turn into commits :frown:
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Is South Carolina a better or worse job than Nebraska?
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eff frank. eff currie. eff rake for enjoying this. eff every rough ridin' body.
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g'bye angel. you were beautiful. :cry:
My loyalty to #teamangel will cross any barrier, including Angel playing on another team. But it is ironic that he goes from a place with a fanbase that waves Puerto Rican flags, to a fanbase who burns them.
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Is South Carolina a better or worse job than Nebraska?
better. but still a shitty job.
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We are witnessing the death of Martin's career and the maiming of our basketball program because of 3 to 5 indiviudals. How mumped up is that? I mean, literally, 50,000 people care about this program (give or take) yet less than a dozen are destroying it and their own career out of pure spite/bad person-ishness.
BTW, thanks for taking that $200 Jamar.
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Oh, shoot. Meek adds something I had forgotten ... :lol:
RT @austin_meek Fogler did the Huggins hire for K-State. RT @DanWolken Eddie Fogler took South Carolina job because he hated his AD. Now he's a consultant
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Is South Carolina a better or worse job than Nebraska?
no better, but it sounds like they may be willing to give a few more dimes to make it look like they care.
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g'bye angel. you were beautiful. :cry:
My loyalty to #teamangel will cross any barrier, including Angel playing on another team. But it is ironic that he goes from a place with a fanbase that waves Puerto Rican flags, to a fanbase who burns them.
he won't forget you. i can promise you that.
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well my work day is shot
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Is South Carolina a better or worse job than Nebraska?
So Car is every SEC job not named KY or Ark. Lots money, plenty of players in the area but no one cares. All these jobs are better than Nebraska as they only have the money.
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No fat lady yet.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18061237/sources-martin-in-talks-with-south-carolina-but-deal-isnt-done-yet (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18061237/sources-martin-in-talks-with-south-carolina-but-deal-isnt-done-yet)
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BTW, thanks for taking that $200 Jamar.
here's a scapegoat candidate i can get behind.
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g'bye angel. you were beautiful. :cry:
My loyalty to #teamangel will cross any barrier, including Angel playing on another team. But it is ironic that he goes from a place with a fanbase that waves Puerto Rican flags, to a fanbase who burns them.
I kind of get the picture that Angel doesn't really like Frank all that much. I think he will transfer, but I would be surprised if he follows Frank to South Carolina.
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Is South Carolina a better or worse job than Nebraska?
So Car is every SEC job not named KY or Ark. Lots money, plenty of players in the area but no one cares. All these jobs are better than Nebraska as they only have the money.
How is it different than Arky? How is Arky different from UF?
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Is South Carolina a better or worse job than Nebraska?
So Car is every SEC job not named KY or Ark. Lots money, plenty of players in the area but no one cares. All these jobs are better than Nebraska as they only have the money.
How is it different than Arky? How is Arky different from UF?
Arkansas has all the Walmart money.
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Is South Carolina a better or worse job than Nebraska?
So Car is every SEC job not named KY or Ark. Lots money, plenty of players in the area but no one cares. All these jobs are better than Nebraska as they only have the money.
How is it different than Arky? How is Arky different from UF?
UF isn't going to need a coach for a long time, so their job prestige is irrelevant
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Is this the wrong time to mention how much I liked this guy?
"We realized over the course of the last few years that we made a mistake. It is with extreme humility and excitement that we welcome - back - Kansas State's newest head coach, Jim Wooldridge."
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Arkansas's job prestige is jack crap.
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Hey retards none of us give a crap about your thoughts on Arky vs. Florida. Take it to the Pig Aggies thread or something
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Will be interesting to see if Frank now says the SEC is the best/most difficult basketball conference in the country.
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There's no such thing as loyalty in contract negotiations.
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Guys! What the eff is going on? :frown: :cry:
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/tournament/2012/story/_/id/7737800/kansas-state-wildcats-frank-martin-paid-former-prep-players
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There's no such thing as loyalty in contract negotiations.
Too bad this had nothing at all to do with Frank's contract.
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g'bye angel. you were beautiful. :cry:
My loyalty to #teamangel will cross any barrier, including Angel playing on another team. But it is ironic that he goes from a place with a fanbase that waves Puerto Rican flags, to a fanbase who burns them.
I kind of get the picture that Angel doesn't really like Frank all that much. I think he will transfer, but I would be surprised if he follows Frank to South Carolina.
Does Angel know about the #teamangel shirts? Seems like now would be a good time to start tweeting him lots of pictures of that and let him know how much EMAW loves him.
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/tournament/2012/story/_/id/7737800/kansas-state-wildcats-frank-martin-paid-former-prep-players
Currie fires the first shot.
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Its South Carolina. South Carolina.
And as for Angel watching, Peyton Silva is a JR at Louisville. Angel could sit out a year and then be the PG and Rick wanted him the first time around.
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welp, see you guys on the football board. :sdeek: (ftp://:sdeek:)
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WELCOME TO IRRELEVANCE
Frank Martin, preacher of loyalty, lover of honesty,
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welp, see you guys on the football board. :sdeek: (ftp://:sdeek:)
:lynchmob:
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/tournament/2012/story/_/id/7737800/kansas-state-wildcats-frank-martin-paid-former-prep-players
Currie fires the first shot.
Currie fired the shot, even though Frank said it on national tv?
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welp, see you guys on the football board. :sdeek: (ftp://:sdeek:)
:lynchmob:
:thumbs:
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Its South Carolina. South Carolina.
Gotta respect them being avid readers of goEMAW and knowing that they'd be getting the deal of a lifetime by seizing on Amateur Hour Live from Manhattan, KS.
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who is the dove and who is crushing said dove
I guess we won't know until everything is done
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According to Martin's friend and mentor Shakey Rodriguez, who coached Martin in high school and hired him to his first coaching job at Miami Senior High, the reasons behind his interest in South Carolina stem from a completely fractured relationship with Wildcat director of Athletics John Currie.
"He didn't like him from the beginning," Rodriguez said on Monday.
:lol:
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1347563
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who is the dove and who is crushing said dove
I guess we won't know until everything is done
We are the dove and Frank Martin is crushing us with all his might. Currie is just sitting in the corner laughing.
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who is the dove and who is crushing said dove
I guess we won't know until everything is done
Fans are the dove and Currie/Frank double team are stomping us
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Might have already been posted, but Katz now telling Frank "Don't be a respect", but no way in hell Frank takes the job at Miss St when Kennedy(and Sergio Rouco) is at Ole Miss.
The whole damn thing is just Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) all around. EFF.
3. South Carolina would like Kansas State’s Frank Martin. But if Martin is seriously interested in leaving Kansas State (he has publicly said he hasn’t talked to anyone), he should look at Mississippi State, which is a better basketball job than South Carolina. There is plenty of talent in the state, more recent success in the sport, and a more passionate fan base for hoops.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/56501/3-point-shot-smu-eyes-buzz-williams
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There are some similarities to ku crushed Dove.
Al Bohl got the new weight room built that Glen Mason asked for in 1991, and he hired Mark Mangino.
So . . . well, I don't know.
:dunno:
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Goodman/Cassidy saying "there's still a chance" just makes it worse.
Just get it over with Frank.
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Goodman/Cassidy saying "there's still a chance" just makes it worse.
Just get it over with Frank.
waiting for lunch meeting between animal and Currie maybe?
I should run to olive garden right now.
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eff this. eff Frank. eff Currie, eff Scott, eff Malone, eff Scott. This is bullshit.
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I choose to believe that this is a bloodless coup masterminded by the most brilliant and cunning tactician of our time. A man who is poised to not only restore the glory of Tex Winter's KSU program, but to take this program to even higher heights. :emawkid:
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maybe our next coach won't be an egotistical, crybaby who can't recruit. that'd be nice.
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Who does Currie have to hire that will make you hate him less?
(Pearl is out)
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There are some similarities to ku crushed Dove.
Al Bohl got the new weight room built that Glen Mason asked for in 1991, and he hired Mark Mangino.
So . . . well, I don't know.
:dunno:
So who is our basketball mangino?
Jankovich
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I'm going to meltdown so hard when this is official.
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Who does Currie have to hire that will make you hate him less?
(Pearl is out)
Jacob Pullen
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Who does Currie have to hire that will make you hate him less?
(Pearl is out)
Look at the "FIRE JOHN CURRIE" thread. Y-W
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Goodman/Cassidy saying "there's still a chance" just makes it worse.
Just get it over with Frank.
Goodman is as good as it gets with frank...so it has to mean something...right?? right?
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I'm going to meltdown so hard when this is official.
why wait
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Who does Currie have to hire that will make you hate him less?
(Pearl is out)
someone that people would think would never come. House hold name similar to Frank.
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maybe our next coach won't be an egotistical, crybaby who can't recruit. that'd be nice.
Maybe your next coach is going to be my fist.
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Who does Currie have to hire that will make you hate him less?
(Pearl is out)
Bill Self, John Calipari, Roy Williams, Tom Izzo, or Coach K.
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maybe our next coach won't be an egotistical, crybaby who can't recruit. that'd be nice.
:flush:
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rumblings...
Stay Calm.
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I choose to believe that this is a bloodless coup masterminded by the most brilliant and cunning tactician of our time. A man who is poised to not only restore the glory of Tex Winter's KSU program, but to take this program to even higher heights. :emawkid:
Nope, it was Bill. He will get the AD and Sean the HC and he could care rough ridin' less about BB.
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rumblings...
Stay Calm.
If you PM one of the mods and they confirm that it's okay to stay calm, I'll stay calm.
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really could use a CC post right about now :pray:
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rumblings...
Stay Calm.
Patzwald......is that you?
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I'm going to meltdown so hard when this is official.
why wait
I want to make it a doozy.
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hate put me in here.......love is gonna break me out. - The Hurricane
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rumblings...
Stay Calm.
pm. tia
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Crushed J Dove ? @crusheddove
I genuinely feel bad that Frank Martin is leaving K-State. Not sure why, like having the guy in the conference.
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rumblings...
Stay Calm.
I can't
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Even if by some miracle we end up keeping Frank, I will always hate him for this.
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damnit, i feel like i should be melting down more. can we get an official meltdown thread so i can feel more at home?
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really could use a CC post right about now :pray:
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Even if by some miracle we end up keeping Frank, I will always hate him for this.
No, denied. If he stays and it leads to an AD that lets the Jamars of the world play, then Frank is the man. Frank stays, he is cool with me.
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rumblings...
Stay Calm.
pm. tia
fwd pm to me. tia.
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What a combo!!!!
The Ole Ball Coach and the Ole Bawl Coach at the same school!!!
Martin's got the boots, and Steve the spurs!!!!
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I remember the last time K-State had a really good coach leave for a crappy SEC program. (Fla had 3 NCAA appearances in their history at the time)
I don't want to have a repeat of those 20 years of bad basketball...
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Even if by some miracle we end up keeping Frank, I will always hate him for this.
You're out of your element.
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Firing Currie is not even enough. He needs to be publicly humiliated. Anybody happen to have video/DNA evidence of him having sexual relations with a blood relative?
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Even if by some miracle we end up keeping Frank, I will always hate him for this.
No, denied. If he stays and it leads to an AD that lets the Jamars of the world play, then Frank is the man. Frank stays, he is cool with me.
I won't be stupid enough to want him fired, but the hate will never turn back into love.
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Anyone wanna get drunk with me and J-Dub tonight in KC?
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Sounds like Frank has been lying to recruits (if he is leaving)
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How are we doing in baseball this year? :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:)
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Even if by some miracle we end up keeping Frank, I will always hate him for this.
I wont.
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Sounds like Frank has been lying to recruits (if he is leaving)
"Recruiting" is EMAWnese for "lying"
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Everybody relax. We are hosting the Big XII Equestrian championships this weekend. Don't know why everybody is so hot and bothered about the state of the MBB program. I'm sure John will get someone good for us...
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Sounds like Frank has been lying to recruits (if he is leaving)
deets please
How are we doing in baseball this year? :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:)
not bad. come out to games. rough conference start because we are playing the best teams first. /too much unwanted info
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610 reporting he's on his way to SC with Anya and is getting a 750k raise.
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Anyone wanna get drunk with me and J-Dub tonight in KC?
Might be at Nick and Jake's depending on how this turns out. :bawl:
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610 reporting he's on his way to SC with Anya and is getting a 750k raise.
great. he can use money as the excuse...
Last year he held us up for ransom if we didn't promise to build the new practice facility...
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Anyone wanna get drunk with me and J-Dub tonight in KC?
:cheers:
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Good chance non of our recruits have signed LOI's for this class? Wonder if Currie knew about that.
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610 reporting he's on his way to SC with Anya and is getting a 750k raise.
great. he can use money as the excuse...
Last year he held us up for ransom if we didn't promise to build the new practice facility...
Where does that put him among coaches salaries, Top 15??
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So, Koppe just tweeted that Rob said Upshaw never LOI'ed.
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Koppe lied.
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610 reporting he's on his way to SC with Anya and is getting a 750k raise.
great. he can use money as the excuse...
Last year he held us up for ransom if we didn't promise to build the new practice facility...
Thank god for Frank on that, demanding KSU act like a big boy program. Can't wait for the next "just happy to be here" hire
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Koppe lied.
LOL @ Koppe being a "reliable source".
:jerk:
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Koppe lied.
LOL @ Koppe being a "reliable source".
:jerk:
Rob just said that he never tweeted it, then said he gave up because he was trying to post on Wabash first so they didn't flame him for tweeting it. So, it sounds real
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$10M/5yr offered
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$10M/5yr offered
from us or SC?
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Koppe lied.
LOL @ Koppe being a "reliable source".
:jerk:
Rob just said that he never tweeted it, then said he gave up because he was trying to post on Wabash first so they didn't flame him for tweeting it. So, it sounds real
i doubt he woulda stayed anyway, right?
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At least we will have nice facilities for our new SLTH :flush:
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Would be easier to take if it was some outlandish contract amt. The $2M/yr makes me hate Currie even more.
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$10M/5yr offered
from us or SC?
SC
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@GoodmanCBS Frank Martin has told his players he has accepted the South Carolina job per a player I know.
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@GoodmanCBS Frank Martin has told his players he has accepted the South Carolina job per a player I know.
Kansas State Basketball. We'll Be Ready.
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I will say this...the 2 people I've talked to in the Ath Dept said the situation is "salvageable."
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Of course it's not about the money. :flush:
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So is this it? Is this how it ends? No blindsided KITN's with a super secret $7 million buy-out clause?
:dunno:
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@GoodmanCBS Frank Martin has told his players he has accepted the South Carolina job per a player I know.
Kansas State Basketball. We'll Be Ready.
this made me smile
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I will say this...the 2 people I've talked to in the Ath Dept said the situation is "salvageable."
more details please. Seems like this situation is singed sealed and delivered with Frank on a plane.
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@GoodmanCBS Frank Martin has told his players he has accepted the South Carolina job per a player I know.
That would coincide with Big Gip's tweet.
But Frank is in NY, so he woulda done it over the phone? dick move.
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KSU player: No team meeting has been called as of yet.
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@GoodmanCBS Frank Martin has told his players he has accepted the South Carolina job per a player I know.
:nono:
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@GoodmanCBS Frank Martin has told his players he has accepted the South Carolina job per a player I know.
That would coincide with Big Gip's tweet.
But Frank is in NY, so he woulda done it over the phone? dick move.
Goodman never tweeted that.
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I will say this...the 2 people I've talked to in the Ath Dept said the situation is "salvageable."
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In the end, SEC always wins.
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Maybe our fans will finally boo Huggins this year.
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@GoodmanCBS Frank Martin has told his players he has accepted the South Carolina job per a player I know.
That would coincide with Big Gip's tweet.
But Frank is in NY, so he woulda done it over the phone? dick move.
Goodman never tweeted that.
yeah, someone tweeted it to him, i searched it first.
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I don't like Currie.
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@GoodmanCBS Frank Martin has told his players he has accepted the South Carolina job per a player I know.
:nono:
The reply made you smile first and then I get a wag of the finger?
@Ell....I know...I messed up my copy and paste.
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I choose to believe that this is a bloodless coup masterminded by the most brilliant and cunning tactician of our time. A man who is poised to not only restore the glory of Tex Winter's KSU program, but to take this program to even higher heights. :emawkid:
You been drinkin again?
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@GoodmanCBS Frank Martin has told his players he has accepted the South Carolina job per a player I know.
:nono:
The reply made you smile first and then I get a wag of the finger?
@Ell....I know...I messed up my copy and paste.
42's was funny, yours was misleading. not that hard. :nono:
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I don't like Currie.
:thumbs:
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Steve Curtis ? @CurtinChicago
@KStatesports Tell me how my ass taste. Sincerely, Frank Martin. Your AD + President ruined a good thing when they wouldn't let Samuels play
Gonna slaughter this guy if Frank doesn't go. :crossfingers:
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#teamTrim
#teamIdontlikecurrie
#teamsad
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KSU player: No team meeting has been called as of yet.
There won't be one. Loyalty. :lol:
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Just think, after Currie fucks this hire up, then fucks up the football hire after Snyder retires in a few, we'll get to relive the late 80w/early 90s all over again.
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Figger is going with Martin
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Let's just say in a perfect world for some reason Currie pulls out all the money to make his OWN hire and it was a big time coach, lets say someone like Buzz Williams from Marquette or someone to equal relevance, how many of you would be ok with it?
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Figger is going with Martin
what about Greenie!?!?!?!
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Figger is going with Martin
what about Greenie!?!?!?!
duh
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Remember during conference armageddon when all hope was lost? I really, really, REALLY hope this is just like that.
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$10M/5yr offered
Lol. The athletic department running $23 Million in the black.
If true, we are so Mickey Mouse it's comical.
Good luck, Currie.
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Figger is going with Martin
what about Greenie!?!?!?!
Everyone is staying except Figger
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i feel like curling up on the couch in my sweats eating chunky monkey ice cream and pounding a bottle of jack at the same time
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what about Te450K?
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smith1051 is dropping some dimes here. Would you say your source is at least A-?
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i feel like curling up on the couch in my sweats eating chunky monkey ice cream and pounding a bottle of jack at the same time
This is a pretty accurate description of how I feel as well.
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Figger is going with Martin
what about Greenie!?!?!?!
Everyone is staying except Figger
So that means Undy is our coach?
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i feel like curling up on the couch in my sweats eating chunky monkey ice cream and pounding a bottle of jack at the same time
:thumbs:
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Let's just say in a perfect world for some reason Currie pulls out all the money to make his OWN hire and it was a big time coach, lets say someone like Buzz Williams from Marquette or someone to equal relevance, how many of you would be ok with it?
I don't give who he rough ridin' hires. I will support the incoming coach, if he's not a mid-major assbag, but I still want Currie the eff out. Letting Frank go for whatevers behind door #1 is a bullshit way to run things.
eff this administration
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Robert Upshaw's mother says her son never signed a letter of intent, just an aid agreement. He's on the market. Sly move. @ryanmgreene
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why aren't people assaulting @kstate_pres?
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smith1051 is dropping some dimes here. Would you say your source is at least A-?
#team one/64th
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Thanks for sending K-State basketball back to Asbury days Currie and your band of rough ridin' cunts.
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why aren't people assaulting @kstate_pres?
Because you never know how an Animal will respond when his back's against the wall.
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You have got to be kidding me. RT @a_swarts My mom calls John Currie thinking she will get his VM, gets connected and talks to him.
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@austin_meek no joke. My MOM LOVES confrontation!
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Take what you want from that but thought it was an interesting tidbit.
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Currie tells her they are working hard to keep Frank but don't know if it will be enough. Then on cue my Mom starts bawling and such.
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My mom a KSU fan calls John Currie thinking she will get his VM, gets connected and talks to him. A 10 min convo about @frankmartinksu
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Sooo.. My Mim ( KState fan) call John Curri
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why aren't people assaulting @kstate_pres?
I know we are all used to Wefald, but @kstate_pres is not the AD. We should give Schulz time to fire Currie for this before we go after him.
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I choose to believe that this is a bloodless coup masterminded by the most brilliant and cunning tactician of our time. A man who is poised to not only restore the glory of Tex Winter's KSU program, but to take this program to even higher heights. :emawkid:
You been drinkin again?
Hell yes.
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@austin_meek no joke. My MOM LOVES confrontation!
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Take what you want from that but thought it was an interesting tidbit.
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Currie tells her they are working hard to keep Frank but don't know if it will be enough. Then on cue my Mom starts bawling and such.
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Sooo.. My Mim ( KState fan) call John Curri
my god that is awesome
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why aren't people assaulting @kstate_pres?
Why would you want to assault (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fmuppet%2Fimages%2F0%2F0d%2FAnimalS1.JPG&hash=fd949175e71d57d8b017e054b59f57f5b1048304) ?
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why aren't people assaulting @kstate_pres?
I know we are all used to Wefald, but @kstate_pres is not the AD. We should give Schulz time to fire Currie for this before we go after him.
Weefer stepped in to save a shitty coach. How the eff doesn't Shulzie step in last rough ridin' week. Unacceptable.
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why aren't people assaulting @kstate_pres?
I know we are all used to Wefald, but @kstate_pres is not the AD. We should give Schulz time to fire Currie for this before we go after him.
If Shulz and Currie go on TV and rough ridin' cry like Weefs and Weiser did with Huggs, I'll start calling for the Animal's head. Until then, he is ok in my book
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@austin_meek no joke. My MOM LOVES confrontation!
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Take what you want from that but thought it was an interesting tidbit.
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Currie tells her they are working hard to keep Frank but don't know if it will be enough. Then on cue my Mom starts bawling and such.
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If somebody gives me Currie's phone number, I'll make my MOAP2.5 voice mail for fanning seem like nothing.
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Shulzy doesn't give a crap about K-State. He just likes being the Mr. Prez. Same as Currie.
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why aren't people assaulting @kstate_pres?
I know we are all used to Wefald, but @kstate_pres is not the AD. We should give Schulz time to fire Currie for this before we go after him.
Weefer stepped in to save a shitty coach. How the eff doesn't Shulzie step in last rough ridin' week. Unacceptable.
He probably didn't step in because it's not his rough ridin' job. If Currie can't retain good coaches, he should be fired. Let's see what Schulz does now.
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Love how the media guys are telling stories about how their mom called Curie and had a convo, yet they haven't picked up the rough ridin' phone.
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Talking to Aaron Swarts's mom is way more important than, you know, like working on this. Way to prioritize John!
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:lol:
If somebody gives me Currie's phone number, I'll make my MOAP2.5 voice mail for fanning seem like nothing.
Why settle for a voice mail when a meeting at DU is available?
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I really don't want to believe this. And I think the only thing that would make it better is if I found out that he left Vanier on hold to answer it...
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Just popped up on espn crawler.
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What the eff? Media moms doing the jobs of sons? Nevermind AD failing to retain a successful coach; we're talking bout actively running one off?
We're rough ridin' locked in Bizzaro World.
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@DrKellyWelch lol ms welch you cant do that.
even in such shitty circumstance, the cats are still adorable.
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If somebody gives me Currie's phone number, I'll make my MOAP2.5 voice mail for fanning seem like nothing.
Why settle for a voice mail when a meeting at DU is available?
:love:
1) He's going to cancel the DU appearance.
2) It would be extremely difficult for me to be there.
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Swarts' mom is hot. Currie will hit it.
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@DrKellyWelch lol ms welch you cant do that.
even in such shitty circumstance, the cats are still adorable.
IT'S NOT A GOOD TIME EMAWBLAST
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Let's just say in a perfect world for some reason Currie pulls out all the money to make his OWN hire and it was a big time coach, lets say someone like Buzz Williams from Marquette or someone to equal relevance, how many of you would be ok with it?
I don't give who he rough ridin' hires. I will support the incoming coach, if he's not a mid-major assbag, but I still want Currie the eff out. Letting Frank go for whatevers behind door #1 is a bullshit way to run things.
eff this administration
eff JOHN CURRIE
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only at kansas state could we backwards trip and stumble into something so perfect only to find a way to just absolutely eff it up. just unbelievable really. everybody enjoy your 2012-2013 kansas state wildcats with new head basketball coach brad underwood. i honest to god think i'm done. i really just don't think i'll be able to continue with kansas state sports if this all goes down.
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TIME TO MOBILIZE
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7739256/kansas-state-wildcats-frank-martin-hired-south-carolina-gamecocks-reports-say (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7739256/kansas-state-wildcats-frank-martin-hired-south-carolina-gamecocks-reports-say)
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full on @kstate_pres mobilization. this is just beyond unacceptable.
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we have $23mil give Buzz 6mil over the next 5 :emawkid:
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Frank Martin to South Carolina? WTF? This is a sad, sad day for the Big 12 and Kansas sports. F*ck.
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I choose to believe that this is a bloodless coup masterminded by the most brilliant and cunning tactician of our time. A man who is poised to not only restore the glory of Tex Winter's KSU program, but to take this program to even higher heights. :emawkid:
You been drinkin again?
Hell yes.
That a boy :cheers:
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we have $23mil give Buzz 6mil over the next 5 :emawkid:
Yes let's underpay our proven coach til he leaves then overpay not our proven coach to send a message to our formerly underpaid proven coach
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Frank Martin to South Carolina? WTF? This is a sad, sad day for the Big 12 and Kansas sports. F*ck.
'grats beems. enjoy your permanent stay in AFH west
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7739256/kansas-state-wildcats-frank-martin-hired-south-carolina-gamecocks-reports-say (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7739256/kansas-state-wildcats-frank-martin-hired-south-carolina-gamecocks-reports-say)
Well eff me
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one word for it: embarrassing
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Get your asses out, sharpen up your pitchforks, and crap. Post a bunch of pics of said pitchfork rallies for those of us who can't be there. tia.
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Frank Martin to South Carolina? WTF? This is a sad, sad day for the Big 12 and Kansas sports. F*ck.
You have a Final Four to enjoy. Don't pay attention to that tire fire of a basketball program starting to the west of you.
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we have $23mil give Buzz 6mil over the next 5 :emawkid:
Yes let's underpay our proven coach til he leaves then overpay not our proven coach to send a message to our formerly underpaid proven coach
sounds logical, think of the fights between Buzz and Huggs :love:
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I told you this was a done deal. I rough ridin' told you.
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I wonder if A&M fans are going to want the signed Big Head back?
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Frank Martin to South Carolina? WTF? This is a sad, sad day for the Big 12 and Kansas sports. F*ck.
You have a Final Four to enjoy. Don't pay attention to that tire fire of a basketball program starting to the west of you.
Can't help it, Chi. I've been pretty TSC for a while now, and it was mainly because of Frank. This sucks.
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Frank Martin to South Carolina? WTF? This is a sad, sad day for the Big 12 and Kansas sports. F*ck.
You have a Final Four to enjoy. Don't pay attention to that tire fire of a basketball program starting to the west of you.
Agreed. Don't let us drag you down.
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Frank deserves at least a little credit for upstaging KU one last time.
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I can't wait to hear that fat face Currie blame this on money.
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Frank Martin to South Carolina? WTF? This is a sad, sad day for the Big 12 and Kansas sports. F*ck.
You have a Final Four to enjoy. Don't pay attention to that tire fire of a basketball program starting to the west of you.
Can't help it, Chi. I've been pretty TSC for a while now, and it was mainly because of Frank. This sucks.
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I mean, he was fun though. There is a slim (not really, but I have to believe) chance that we hire as good as a coach, but we will never hire as fun of one. Unless Pearl I guess :dunno: but I don't believe
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Frank Martin to South Carolina? WTF? This is a sad, sad day for the Big 12 and Kansas sports. F*ck.
You should go out with some Oregon friends and collectively make fun of Kansas State and Oregon State fans. You guys earned this one.
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can we start tweeting loyalty comments to @frank?
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I can't wait to hear that fat face Currie blame this on money.
He isn't that stupid. he will paint an implied picture of frank being dirty and their two philosophies on winning not aligning.
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frank is leaving our athletic dept with a big stain on it, no one is going to want to come into this environment.
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I mean, he was fun though. There is a slim (not really, but I have to believe) chance that we hire as good as a coach, but we will never hire as fun of one. Unless Pearl I guess :dunno: but I don't believe
Its hard to believe in the Pearl talk, but Mich was right about Huggs.
So if we don't get Pearl, I'm likely going to be just as upset with him as Currie and Frank right now.
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Frank deserves at least a little credit for upstaging KU one last time.
solid. I like this. I'm going go with this and not be so upset now. my tsc moratorium starts now.
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_33 can you post some adorable new video. please and tahnks
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It's "not about money. It's about respect."
Do not Stay Calm.
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Frank Martin to South Carolina? WTF? This is a sad, sad day for the Big 12 and Kansas sports. F*ck.
You should go out with some Oregon friends and collectively make fun of Kansas State and Oregon State fans. You guys earned this one.
You don't know me. That's not my style. I genuinely like Frank, and I'm genuinely saddened by this apparent news. I want Frank at K-State and in the Big 12.
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I told you this was a done deal. I rough ridin' told you.
Old people don't listen well.
I think everyone should go to BSFS and tailgate their asses off, kinda like a wake for the BBall program :drink:
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_33 can you post some adorable new video. please and tahnks
yeah, the huggy don't leave video isn't cutting it. :frown:
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It's "not about money. It's about respect."
Do not Stay Calm.
sounds like a dove crushing is our only hope
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only at kansas state could we backwards trip and stumble into something so perfect only to find a way to just absolutely eff it up. just unbelievable really. everybody enjoy your 2012-2013 kansas state wildcats with new head basketball coach brad underwood. i honest to god think i'm done. i really just don't think i'll be able to continue with kansas state sports if this all goes down.
Great post RD. I just said the exact same thing to my bro. We got lucky as eff and still couldn't just ride with it. What a joke of an admin. :chainsaw:
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It's "not about money. It's about respect."
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god damnit patzwald!
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It's "not about money. It's about respect."
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Well no crap.
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It's "not about money. It's about respect."
Do not Stay Calm.
Well no crap.
Well now I don't even know what to think.
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_33 I was thinking you could use wilson phillips as your inspiration and have frank martin literally breaking free from the chains
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eff Frank. South Carolina? Have fun in that shithole.
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I mean, he was fun though. There is a slim (not really, but I have to believe) chance that we hire as good as a coach, but we will never hire as fun of one. Unless Pearl I guess :dunno: but I don't believe
Its hard to believe in the Pearl talk, but Mich was right about Huggs.
So if we don't get Pearl, I'm likely going to be just as upset with him as Currie and Frank right now.
Huggs made a lot more sense, IMO. I didn't think it would happen either, but no NCAA issues, and the AD needed to take a different approach then hiring the next mid-major. I am not upset with Frank at all. I hope he loses at SC but thats it. I blame the whole thing on an inept department of selfish individuals putting themselves ahead of the jobs they should be doing and the program they should be supporting.
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The good news on top of Upshaw not signing his LOI, is that according to Upshaw's mom Frank told them not to....
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It's "not about money. It's about respect."
Do not Stay Calm.
is this a post from one week ago that just got bumped or are most of you guys really just coming around to this and figuring this thing out?
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I'm trying to decide how Fatty would be bbsing right now /wet blanket
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I'm trying to decide how Fatty would be bbsing right now /wet blanket
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in my opinion, you have to direct immediate anger at frank and hammer him with loyalty comments, "just like huggins," etc. then, once he's definitely gone (but after frank's presser), you bust out the pitch forks and go after currie with an intensity unknown to mankind.
also, if anyone thinks about attacking k-state prez, you're a clown. schulz is great and his family is awesome (especially the chunky kid with glasses, i think his name is andrew.)
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Welp. Back to 90's and early 00's in bball. And back to the 80's in football in a few years.
:cry: I'm crushed.
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It's "not about money. It's about respect."
Do not Stay Calm.
is this a post from one week ago that just got bumped or are most of you guys really just coming around to this and figuring this thing out?
Guise, it's not about whether we are just now figuring it out or if the jackasses in the AD are just now figuring it out. I'm just telling you all what they told me. It appears they thought they could buy their way out of the situation and were told otherwise. Don't shoot the messenger.
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in my opinion, you have to direct immediate anger at frank and hammer him with loyalty comments, "just like huggins," etc. then, once he's definitely gone (but after frank's presser), you bust out the pitch forks and go after currie with an intensity unknown to mankind.
also, if anyone thinks about attacking k-state prez, you're a clown. schulz is great and his family is awesome (especially the chunky kid with glasses, i think his name is andrew.)
people want schulz to fire currie or something. maybe they could would out some kind of deal where frank just reports to the animal and currie can have all of the other sports. idk. sounds reasonable.
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if Frank told Upshaw not to sign than this has obviously been brewing for a long time, him being a bitch I mean.
I think we should vent to Shultz, its his job to keep the AD in line. That is obviously not happening.
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in my opinion, you have to direct immediate anger at frank and hammer him with loyalty comments, "just like huggins," etc. then, once he's definitely gone (but after frank's presser), you bust out the pitch forks and go after currie with an intensity unknown to mankind.
This is the proper course of action, but I don't know if I have it in me.
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in my opinion, you have to direct immediate anger at frank and hammer him with loyalty comments, "just like huggins," etc. then, once he's definitely gone (but after frank's presser), you bust out the pitch forks and go after currie with an intensity unknown to mankind.
also, if anyone thinks about attacking k-state prez, you're a clown. schulz is great and his family is awesome (especially the chunky kid with glasses, i think his name is andrew.)
this is my stance
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Did we take it for granted? :frown:
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in my opinion, you have to direct immediate anger at frank and hammer him with loyalty comments, "just like huggins," etc. then, once he's definitely gone (but after frank's presser), you bust out the pitch forks and go after currie with an intensity unknown to mankind.
also, if anyone thinks about attacking k-state prez, you're a clown. schulz is great and his family is awesome (especially the chunky kid with glasses, i think his name is andrew.)
could you be any better of a poster?
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in my opinion, you have to direct immediate anger at frank and hammer him with loyalty comments, "just like huggins," etc. then, once he's definitely gone (but after frank's presser), you bust out the pitch forks and go after currie with an intensity unknown to mankind.
also, if anyone thinks about attacking k-state prez, you're a clown. schulz is great and his family is awesome (especially the chunky kid with glasses, i think his name is andrew.)
Yes. Send the angry at Frank, then Currie.
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Did we take it for granted? :frown:
Yep the Asbury/Wooly days. Can't wait to get back to them :bang:
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It's "not about money. It's about respect."
Do not Stay Calm.
is this a post from one week ago that just got bumped or are most of you guys really just coming around to this and figuring this thing out?
Guise, it's not about whether we are just now figuring it out or if the jackasses in the AD are just now figuring it out. I'm just telling you all what they told me. It appears they thought they could buy their way out of the situation and were told otherwise. Don't shoot the messenger.
well i could have told them a week ago that they couldn't and i have never spoken to either frank martin or john currie in my entire life. this can't be a surprise to them. it just can't. i mean it makes sense that it could though given the absolutely mind rough ridin' ineptitude of what has transpired over the past two weeks.
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in my opinion, you have to direct immediate anger at frank and hammer him with loyalty comments, "just like huggins," etc. then, once he's definitely gone (but after frank's presser), you bust out the pitch forks and go after currie with an intensity unknown to mankind.
also, if anyone thinks about attacking k-state prez, you're a clown. schulz is great and his family is awesome (especially the chunky kid with glasses, i think his name is andrew.)
this is my stance
I'm in.
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in my opinion, you have to direct immediate anger at frank and hammer him with loyalty comments, "just like huggins," etc. then, once he's definitely gone (but after frank's presser), you bust out the pitch forks and go after currie with an intensity unknown to mankind.
This is the proper course of action, but I don't know if I have it in me.
Exactly. I want to let loose a thousand anger bombs at Frank, but god damn I don't know if I have it in me.
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could you be any better of a poster?
of course. don't ever get complacent, boy.
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Heres to dollar night at the OOD :cheers:
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Frank, then Currie, then if that doesn't work, The Animal.
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The good news on top of Upshaw not signing his LOI, is that according to Upshaw's mom Frank told them not to....
Frank is dead to me.
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in my opinion, you have to direct immediate anger at frank and hammer him with loyalty comments, "just like huggins," etc. then, once he's definitely gone (but after frank's presser), you bust out the pitch forks and go after currie with an intensity unknown to mankind.
This is the proper course of action, but I don't know if I have it in me.
Exactly. I want to let loose a thousand anger bombs at Frank, but god damn I don't know if I have it in me.
imagine him upsetting kentucky and smiling about it.
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As soon as it's announced I'm going to react one of 2 ways.
Completely shut down and start following some random Big 10 team
or
Scream/cry/lay in my own feces and tweet super angry things at anyone ever involved with K-State athletics.
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remember when we all mocked the NU coaching hire like 3 days ago? :frown:
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in my opinion, you have to direct immediate anger at frank and hammer him with loyalty comments, "just like huggins," etc. then, once he's definitely gone (but after frank's presser), you bust out the pitch forks and go after currie with an intensity unknown to mankind.
This is the proper course of action, but I don't know if I have it in me.
Exactly. I want to let loose a thousand anger bombs at Frank, but god damn I don't know if I have it in me.
imagine him upsetting kentucky and smiling about it.
All that does is make me die inside. :bawl:
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for those who are planning on getting mad at schulz, you can try, but you won't be able to sustain your anger.
seriously, it's impossible. look at this family.
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At least Huggs left us his recruits. :chainsaw: @ Frank for not getting LOI from Upshaw.
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Why Frank? Why are you doing this? What did we do? Please.
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I'm rough ridin' pissed.
The only thing that is keeping me from the fetal position today is this slightly irrational thought...
Mizzou was basically in the exact same position 1 year ago today, and can anybody argue that they are not in a better position today? Granted Frank >>>> Mike Anderson, but it's the best I've got today
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It's "not about money. It's about respect."
Do not Stay Calm.
is this a post from one week ago that just got bumped or are most of you guys really just coming around to this and figuring this thing out?
Guise, it's not about whether we are just now figuring it out or if the jackasses in the AD are just now figuring it out. I'm just telling you all what they told me. It appears they thought they could buy their way out of the situation and were told otherwise. Don't shoot the messenger.
well i could have told them a week ago that they couldn't and i have never spoken to either frank martin or john currie in my entire life. this can't be a surprise to them. it just can't. i mean it makes sense that it could though given the absolutely mind rough ridin' ineptitude of what has transpired over the past two weeks.
I think all along they thought they could simply buy their way out of the situation. Turns out money isn't everything to everyone.
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I'm rough ridin' pissed.
The only thing that is keeping me from the fetal position today is this slightly irrational thought...
Mizzou was basically in the exact same position 1 year ago today, and can anybody argue that they are not in a better position today? Granted Frank >>>> Mike Anderson, but it's the best I've got today
yes, you can argue that.
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in my opinion, you have to direct immediate anger at frank and hammer him with loyalty comments, "just like huggins," etc. then, once he's definitely gone (but after frank's presser), you bust out the pitch forks and go after currie with an intensity unknown to mankind.
also, if anyone thinks about attacking k-state prez, you're a clown. schulz is great and his family is awesome (especially the chunky kid with glasses, i think his name is andrew.)
Yeah, this is well said.
I get Frank being mad at Currie, but at least wait for a better job than South Carolina. Especially given the loyalty talking points, etc. that he constantly fed us with.
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I think we should vent to Shultz, its his job to keep the AD in line. That is obviously not happening.
Could Schultz be on board with Currie?
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I'm rough ridin' pissed.
The only thing that is keeping me from the fetal position today is this slightly irrational thought...
Mizzou was basically in the exact same position 1 year ago today, and can anybody argue that they are not in a better position today? Granted Frank >>>> Mike Anderson, but it's the best I've got today
yes, you can argue that.
OK, but they didn't fall back to irrelevance...granted, it may come when Haith is revealed as a non-recruiter, but...god damn it, why did you have to take that away from me too :goodbyecruelworld: :goodbyecruelworld:
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Everyone needs to attack the crap out of Frank on twitter.
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Everyone needs to attack the crap out of Frank on twitter.
Does he have to approve the comments? Surprised no message are showing yet. :chainsaw:
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for those who are planning on getting mad at schulz, you can try, but you won't be able to sustain your anger.
seriously, it's impossible. look at this family.
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Just watched Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy last night, that chunky kid on the left was in it.
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Even Dom feels bad for us. :cry:
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All my bball videos are meaningless now. Worthless. :blindfold:
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If Frank really didn't get a LOI from Upshaw this is going to get really ugly. I refuse to believe it.
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At least Huggs left us his recruits. :chainsaw: @ Frank for not getting LOI from Upshaw.
If true, and if he goes after Upshaw at USC the lessor, this sort of makes Frank even more of a sleaze than Huggins, which completely shatters my worldview (and makes me weep).
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rumblings
It's "not about money. It's about respect."
Do not Stay Calm.
is this a post from one week ago that just got bumped or are most of you guys really just coming around to this and figuring this thing out?
Guise, it's not about whether we are just now figuring it out or if the jackasses in the AD are just now figuring it out. I'm just telling you all what they told me. It appears they thought they could buy their way out of the situation and were told otherwise. Don't shoot the messenger.
well i could have told them a week ago that they couldn't and i have never spoken to either frank martin or john currie in my entire life. this can't be a surprise to them. it just can't. i mean it makes sense that it could though given the absolutely mind rough ridin' ineptitude of what has transpired over the past two weeks.
I think all along they thought they could simply buy their way out of the situation. Turns out money isn't everything to everyone.
if this was honest to god currie's thinking on the situation and frank does leave then he should be fired. how someone could misread another person/situation so incorrectly is beyond me.
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The positive: The best kind of message boarding.
The negative: Everything else.
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The positive: The best kind of message boarding.
The negative: Everything else.
Basketball is the reason I bbs. Could eff everything up for me.
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So, it's still just Kellis and the SC paper saying it's done, right? I'm guessing Frank would love to float Kellis a bogus story. :gocho:
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At least Huggs left us his recruits. :chainsaw: @ Frank for not getting LOI from Upshaw.
If true, and if he goes after Upshaw at USC the lessor, this sort of makes Frank even more of a sleaze than Huggins, which completely shatters my worldview (and makes me weep).
Stop the presses! I need to rewrite the ending!
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The positive: The best kind of message boarding.
The negative: Everything else.
Basketball is the reason I bbs. Could eff everything up for me.
best bbs'ing day since A&M left B12, imo.
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currie, the animal, and frank can all eff themselves.
god damn bad person motherfucking dick lickers. eff mrs. animal too, because she's as ugly as hell. bitch.
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Kellis and USC and ESPN.
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Kellis and USC and ESPN.
ESPN is just referring to the SC paper.
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Maybe history will repeat itself (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=799&dat=19770322&id=jLlPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=VFIDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6143,6927204).
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So, it's still just Kellis and the SC paper saying it's done, right? I'm guessing Frank would love to float Kellis a bogus story. :gocho:
And that other sports news site... http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7739256/kansas-state-wildcats-frank-martin-hired-south-carolina-gamecocks-reports-say
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$1.9M/yr for 5 years is the contract
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pm your source smith1051. tia
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now we'll find out which players are loyal to frank and which players just want to play ball.
Spradling is gone already
I bet JO stays, he has too much to lose at this point
Poor, poor Angel. :(
Gip goes
Diaz stays because he'll get tons of playing time
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Frank on the SEC: "This league, I mean this league is just so tough. It's so hard to win in this league. This is the best league in the country."
Shut up idiot.
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:thumbs:
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$1.9M/yr for 5 years is the contract
keep stuff like this coming smith1051
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Frank on the SEC: "This league, I mean this league is just so tough. It's so hard to win in this league. This is the best league in the country."
Shut up idiot.
:lol:
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I'm hearing Currie is not negotiating to keep Martin. That's real hatred, if true.
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eff everything there is to eff about k-state basketball right now...
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What if beas/walker/pullen/Denis show up for a sc v. Kentucky game next year? Will cry.
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Frank on the SEC: "This league, I mean this league is just so tough. It's so hard to win in this league. This is the best league in the country."
Shut up idiot.
What a whore he is.
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At least Huggs left us his recruits. :chainsaw: @ Frank for not getting LOI from Upshaw.
If true, and if he goes after Upshaw at USC the lessor, this sort of makes Frank even more of a sleaze than Huggins, which completely shatters my worldview (and makes me weep).
Stop the presses! I need to rewrite the ending!
:lol:
:curse:
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I'm hearing Currie is not negotiating to keep Martin. That's real hatred, if true.
Not true. But has given up at this point.
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I'm hearing Currie is not negotiating to keep Martin. That's real hatred, if true.
If true, Currie should be shown the door. I mean, what in the eff?!
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Guessing tweets to Martin go unnoticed
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What makes Currie the right guy to make the next hire? I don't want him near our next bball coach.
Call Pastner, ask him who he wants as an athletic director, how much $$ he wants, then get back to winning.
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I'm hearing Currie is not negotiating to keep Martin. That's real hatred, if true.
If true, Currie should be shown the door. I mean, what in the eff?!
Or have an ace up his sleeve. Like, a really big ass Ace.
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I'm hearing Currie is not negotiating to keep Martin. That's real hatred, if true.
If true, Currie should be shown the door. I mean, what in the eff?!
Or have an ace up his sleeve. Like, a really big ass Ace.
Could it be the Ace of Pearls?
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I'm hearing Currie is not negotiating to keep Martin. That's real hatred, if true.
If true, Currie should be shown the door. I mean, what in the eff?!
Or have an ace up his sleeve. Like, a really big ass Ace.
i heard your mom has a big ace
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Frank's first trip to Manhattan in the NIT will be glorious
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You know, Dana Altman went as far as belting out a "Woo Pig Sooie" before he came back to Creighton. Maybe Frank is taking a page from that book to really prove a point to Currie and they'll be having beers by Friday.
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Inside source: Buzz Williams is having the same issues at Marquette, would take.
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I'm hearing Currie is not negotiating to keep Martin. That's real hatred, if true.
If true, Currie should be shown the door. I mean, what in the eff?!
Or have an ace up his sleeve. Like, a really big ass Ace.
i heard your mom has a big ace
You were misinformed
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Frank's first trip to Manhattan in the NIT will be glorious
I'm rooting for whatever combination of wins and losses makes this happen.
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At least we can all finally admit that Frank was one of the worst dressed coaches in the NCAA. Get a tailor Frank :lol:
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You know, Dana Altman went as far as belting out a "Woo Pig Sooie" before he came back to Creighton. Maybe Frank is taking a page from that book to really prove a point to Currie and they'll be having beers by Friday.
too late for that. hope the fuckers plane crashes on the way there, okstate style.
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Rake, I started to think you and I might be the same person and it's a weird Tyler Durden thing until the Deb part. My women's hoops fan friend would never want Deb fired.
:emawkid:
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At least we can all finally admit that Frank was one of the worst dressed coaches in the NCAA. Get a tailor Frank :lol:
JEAN SHORTS WITH CARGO POCKETS!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Pearl can't recruit until August 2014. Even if he's reinstated by the NCAA as a coach, he can't recruit.
(so it'd be like Frank was still here).
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I'm hearing Currie is not negotiating to keep Martin. That's real hatred, if true.
Not true. But has given up at this point.
he needs to be a rough ridin' man and apologize to frank if he hasn't already. that's where he should've started and that's what he should do now.
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How rough ridin' hard is it to kiss the ass of the successful face of your bball program?
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Pearl can't recruit until August 2014. Even if he's reinstated by the NCAA as a coach, he can't recruit.
(so it'd be like Frank was still here).
IT CAN BE APPEALED
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/feed/2010-09/vols-penalties/story/hiring-oscar-pearl-would-be-well-worth-the-risk
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You know, Dana Altman went as far as belting out a "Woo Pig Sooie" before he came back to Creighton. Maybe Frank is taking a page from that book to really prove a point to Currie and they'll be having beers by Friday.
you forget he then burned Creighton a 2nd time to go to Oregon. If Frank does a presser we shouldn't allow him back. :chainsaw:
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Pearl can't recruit until August 2014. Even if he's reinstated by the NCAA as a coach, he can't recruit.
(so it'd be like Frank was still here).
Who cares.
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Pearl can't recruit until August 2014. Even if he's reinstated by the NCAA as a coach, he can't recruit.
(so it'd be like Frank was still here).
Would take.
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I'm hearing Currie is not negotiating to keep Martin. That's real hatred, if true.
Not true. But has given up at this point.
he needs to be a rough ridin' man and apologize to frank if he hasn't already. that's where he should've started and that's what he should do now.
And if he doesn't? WTF are you KSU fans going to do? Not a rough ridin' thing you goddam pussies.
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:zzz:
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What a bad day to run out of my anxiety/depression pills.
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damn
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Pearl can't recruit until August 2014. Even if he's reinstated by the NCAA as a coach, he can't recruit.
(so it'd be like Frank was still here).
IT CAN BE APPEALED
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/feed/2010-09/vols-penalties/story/hiring-oscar-pearl-would-be-well-worth-the-risk
sure, so can Sean Peyton's suspension.
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Fanning, that's why alcohol was invented
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You know, Dana Altman went as far as belting out a "Woo Pig Sooie" before he came back to Creighton. Maybe Frank is taking a page from that book to really prove a point to Currie and they'll be having beers by Friday.
you forget he then burned Creighton a 2nd time to go to Oregon. If Frank does a presser we shouldn't allow him back. :chainsaw:
Not real sure if he burned Creighton. CU has a player of the year candidate and Dana is playing on a shitty court. With this being said, maybe we are better off??
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Listen live to BITB at www.810WHB.com.
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Pearl can't recruit until August 2014. Even if he's reinstated by the NCAA as a coach, he can't recruit.
(so it'd be like Frank was still here).
IT CAN BE APPEALED
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/feed/2010-09/vols-penalties/story/hiring-oscar-pearl-would-be-well-worth-the-risk
sure, so can Sean Peyton's suspension.
jesus, mikey.
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Do we deserve this? :frown:
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Pearl can't recruit until August 2014. Even if he's reinstated by the NCAA as a coach, he can't recruit.
(so it'd be like Frank was still here).
IT CAN BE APPEALED
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/feed/2010-09/vols-penalties/story/hiring-oscar-pearl-would-be-well-worth-the-risk
sure, so can Sean Peyton's suspension.
He can coach - just hire him and let the clause expire. The NCAA can't keep us from hiring him.
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Pearl can't recruit until August 2014. Even if he's reinstated by the NCAA as a coach, he can't recruit.
(so it'd be like Frank was still here).
IT CAN BE APPEALED
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/feed/2010-09/vols-penalties/story/hiring-oscar-pearl-would-be-well-worth-the-risk
sure, so can Sean Peyton's suspension.
He can coach - just hire him and let the clause expire. The NCAA can't keep us from hiring him.
I assume the assistants can recruit? worth it
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Why would you turn down Oregon and then bolt K-State for South Carolina?
:flush:
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Pearl can't recruit until August 2014. Even if he's reinstated by the NCAA as a coach, he can't recruit.
(so it'd be like Frank was still here).
IT CAN BE APPEALED
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/feed/2010-09/vols-penalties/story/hiring-oscar-pearl-would-be-well-worth-the-risk
sure, so can Sean Peyton's suspension.
He can coach - just hire him and let the clause expire. The NCAA can't keep us from hiring him.
I assume the assistants can recruit? worth it
Of course the assistants can recruit. BUTCH PIERRE FTW
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Winters, we don't deserve any of this, but being a fan of Kansas State athletics we can never expect good things to come to us. It's not fair, but for some rough ridin' reason that's how it is here...
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guessing you're all being facetious, but in case you're not...
you wanted Currie to slide on Jamar....if Pearl comes here the NCAA will have live webcams streaming the bathroom stalls to make sure there's nothing dirty going on.
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Pearl can't recruit until August 2014. Even if he's reinstated by the NCAA as a coach, he can't recruit.
(so it'd be like Frank was still here).
IT CAN BE APPEALED
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/feed/2010-09/vols-penalties/story/hiring-oscar-pearl-would-be-well-worth-the-risk
sure, so can Sean Peyton's suspension.
He can coach - just hire him and let the clause expire. The NCAA can't keep us from hiring him.
Absolutely, I mean the amount of loyalty a guy like this, that we are effectively giving a second chance to before anybody else gives him the chance for a second chance would be amazing. I mean, even if his alma mater were to come calling one year later, I'm sure he wouldn't treat MHK as a floormat.
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Why would you turn down Oregon and then bolt K-State for South Carolina?
:flush:
Too far away from his recruiting base?? Honestly, i have no rough ridin' reasoning for this move. :flush:
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Pearl can't recruit until August 2014. Even if he's reinstated by the NCAA as a coach, he can't recruit.
(so it'd be like Frank was still here).
IT CAN BE APPEALED
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/feed/2010-09/vols-penalties/story/hiring-oscar-pearl-would-be-well-worth-the-risk
sure, so can Sean Peyton's suspension.
He can coach - just hire him and let the clause expire. The NCAA can't keep us from hiring him.
Exactly. And you don't think he's been in contact with Juniors and Seniors during his "time off?" LOL. He's likely got one or two near his back pocket, who may just enroll without so much as an official visit. Would rough ridin' take and never look back.
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guessing you're all being facetious, but in case you're not...
you wanted Currie to slide on Jamar....if Pearl comes here the NCAA will have live webcams streaming the bathroom stalls to make sure there's nothing dirty going on.
That's fine! We have Pearl you dumbass!
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guessing you're all being facetious, but in case you're not...
you wanted Currie to slide on Jamar....if Pearl comes here the NCAA will have live webcams streaming the bathroom stalls to make sure there's nothing dirty going on.
You overestimate the man power and will of the NCAA. They would love to let it be handled by a guy who snitches on his one sr to end his career by sitting out a tourny game over $200. In a heart beat.
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March 26, 2012
David Cloninger
GamecockCentral.com Staff Writer
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Kansas State's Frank Martin will be hired as South Carolina's basketball coach, two sources close to the situation have confirmed.
The sources, who are familiar with the negotiations, requested anonymity because they are not authorized to publically discuss the hiring.
The USC Board of Trustees has scheduled a conference-call meeting for 10 a.m. on Tuesday to discuss a "contractual matter." The Board has to approve Martin's contract before any official announcement is made.
Frank Martin is expected to be announced as the next head coach at South Carolina.
As of noon on Monday, USC had not announced a press conference to introduce Martin, according to a USC spokesperson. When Darrin Horn was hired in 2008, the Board met at 11 a.m. before introducing Horn two hours later.
A source within USC's administration confirmed to GamecockCentral.com that a contract was sent to Martin on Friday, but had not been signed and returned. Martin was in New York on Saturday and Sunday helping with TV analysis of the NCAA tournament.
The contract has apparently been returned. While the hire won't be official until the contract is actually signed, one source close to Martin said that nothing should hold up Martin agreeing to the deal.
Kansas State beat writer Kellis Robinett of The Wichita (Kan.) Eagle confirmed that Martin has agreed to a deal in principle to be the Gamecocks' coach.
GamecockCentral.com first reported that Martin was expressing heavy interest in the job on March 19. Sources confirmed on March 23 that Martin had interviewed in Columbia on March 19, despite Martin saying in a mass text message to several media outlets that he had not spoken to anyone.
The speculation began to quickly heat as the weekend progressed. Martin did not confirm or deny that he was a candidate at USC during his TV time, and also did not re-affirm any commitment to Kansas State.
Questioned about USC during the telecast, Martin sidestepped the issue. "In the age of social media that we live in right now, it's crazy," he said. "I was scheduled to be at a press conference (Saturday) in South Carolina and I was sitting watching a show in New York City last night. And obviously I'm sitting here with you guys today, so it's, ? The stuff that gets out these days, I look at it as a compliment that we're doing our job the right way at Kansas State that these sort of things get out."
Martin was referencing a basketball blog report that had him accepting the job and being introduced on Saturday. The report was quickly taken down when two things were pointed out - Martin was going to do TV in New York, and USC athletic director Eric Hyman was going to be in Fresno, Calif., on Saturday to watch the USC women's team play in the Sweet 16. Hyman confirmed that to GamecockCentral.com at USC's baseball game on Friday.
Martin never declared that he wasn't a candidate at USC, nor that he was pledging his commitment to Kansas State, such as another candidate on USC's list did on Saturday. Wichita State's Gregg Marshall announced through the school that he was staying with the Shockers, with a new contract coming but not finalized.
Martin was a candidate with heavy interest, and USC moved quickly to lock him down. He interviewed on March 19 and was offered the job soon after.
It is Hyman's second men's basketball coaching hire, and on the surface, it appears that is a home-run hire. Martin, despite only being a head coach for five years, has never missed the postseason and has never won less than 21 games per season.
Martin worked under Bob Huggins at Cincinnati and stayed for another season under interim coach Andy Kennedy, who went to Ole Miss following that year (while point guard Devan Downey transferred to USC). Martin went to Kansas State with Huggins and was elevated to head coach when Huggins resigned after a year to take the head spot at his alma mater, West Virginia.
Under Martin, the Wildcats have gone to four NCAA tournaments and one NIT, advancing to the Elite Eight of the 2010 tournament and winning 29 games. Kansas State was eliminated in the second round of this year's tournament by Syracuse, a game that had senior Jamar Samuels ruled ineligible less than a day before the game. Martin is the first coach in school history to post five straight 20-win seasons.
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The pedigree is impressive and fits exactly into what Hyman stressed when he fired Horn on March 13. Hyman wanted someone who would be competitive and be a strong recruiter, which Martin is, and Hyman's previous hires have usually been young winners, which Martin also is.
USC is seeking a jump-start to its dormant basketball program, which has been searching for the sustained success it had under legendary coach Frank McGuire. The Gamecocks have only had spots of success under the six coaches since, going to a mere four NCAA tournaments in the 32 years since McGuire left and never winning a game. USC is 129-207 in the SEC since joining the league in 1992, with one regular-season championship and two SEC East titles. The Gamecocks are the only team in the current SEC to have never won the conference tournament, although they have twice appeared in the tournament championship game.
A native of Miami, Martin graduated from Florida International in 1993. He worked from 1985-2000 in the high-school ranks around Miami before landing his first assistant coaching job in college at Northeastern. Martin was there from 2000-04 before joining Huggins at Cincinnati.
Martin celebrated his 46th birthday on March 23.
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rough ridin' SOUTH CAROLINA! What the eff!?
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We're going to have a hell of a time convincing anyone good to come coach here. Who wants some Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) boss making decisions for you?
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It's Southwell's team now. :dubious:
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guessing you're all being facetious, but in case you're not...
you wanted Currie to slide on Jamar....if Pearl comes here the NCAA will have live webcams streaming the bathroom stalls to make sure there's nothing dirty going on.
That's fine! We have Pearl you dumbass!
I don't think the NCAA would keep too close an eye on Pearl. Unless I'm misremembering, his crimes were pretty minor with the exception of lying to the NCAA. Its not like he cheated his ass off.
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If you think this crap is bad, wait until rough ridin' John Currie hires Sean Snyder as our rough ridin' football coach. eff YOU CURRIE
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If you think this crap is bad, wait until rough ridin' John Currie hires Sean Snyder as our rough ridin' football coach. eff YOU CURRIE
You need to focus your hate on the current situation. We can melt down about that later.
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Last year, when the Frank going to Miami crap was going down, I had someone from management in the ticket office tell me that Currie was in the works to hire someone big. They referred to the Pullen\Kelly Dillards scam as a reason to get Frank out. I did not believe this, thought it wasn't possible. After Currie pulling this Jamar crap, and now that Frank really is gone, I want to believe that Currie was mind rough ridin' us the whole time. Hire oscar Pearl and I will believe.
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guessing you're all being facetious, but in case you're not...
you wanted Currie to slide on Jamar....if Pearl comes here the NCAA will have live webcams streaming the bathroom stalls to make sure there's nothing dirty going on.
That's fine! We have Pearl you dumbass!
I don't think the NCAA would keep too close an eye on Pearl. Unless I'm misremembering, his crimes were pretty minor with the exception of lying to the NCAA. Its not like he cheated his ass off.
He had recruits at his house, then called a recruit when he wasn't supposed to, and then lied. BFD
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If you think this crap is bad, wait until rough ridin' John Currie hires Sean Snyder as our rough ridin' football coach. eff YOU CURRIE
You need to focus your hate on the current situation. We can melt down about that later.
rough ridin' OK!
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Last year, when the Frank going to Miami crap was going down, I had someone from management in the ticket office tell me that Currie was in the works to hire someone big. They referred to the Pullen\Kelly Dillards scam as a reason to get Frank out. I did not believe this, thought it wasn't possible. After Currie pulling this Jamar crap, and now that Frank really is gone, I want to believe that Currie was mind rough ridin' us the whole time. Hire oscar Pearl and I will believe.
:pray:
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guessing you're all being facetious, but in case you're not...
you wanted Currie to slide on Jamar....if Pearl comes here the NCAA will have live webcams streaming the bathroom stalls to make sure there's nothing dirty going on.
That's fine! We have Pearl you dumbass!
I don't think the NCAA would keep too close an eye on Pearl. Unless I'm misremembering, his crimes were pretty minor with the exception of lying to the NCAA. Its not like he cheated his ass off.
He had recruits at his house, then called a recruit when he wasn't supposed to, and then lied. BFD
Can Pearl be as good of a coach when he isn't allowed to cheat?
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guessing you're all being facetious, but in case you're not...
you wanted Currie to slide on Jamar....if Pearl comes here the NCAA will have live webcams streaming the bathroom stalls to make sure there's nothing dirty going on.
That's fine! We have Pearl you dumbass!
I don't think the NCAA would keep too close an eye on Pearl. Unless I'm misremembering, his crimes were pretty minor with the exception of lying to the NCAA. Its not like he cheated his ass off.
He had recruits at his house, then called a recruit when he wasn't supposed to, and then lied. BFD
Yeah for pretty much every coach in the top 25, that is called "Tuesday".
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guessing you're all being facetious, but in case you're not...
you wanted Currie to slide on Jamar....if Pearl comes here the NCAA will have live webcams streaming the bathroom stalls to make sure there's nothing dirty going on.
That's fine! We have Pearl you dumbass!
I don't think the NCAA would keep too close an eye on Pearl. Unless I'm misremembering, his crimes were pretty minor with the exception of lying to the NCAA. Its not like he cheated his ass off.
He had recruits at his house, then called a recruit when he wasn't supposed to, and then lied. BFD
Can Pearl be as good of a coach when he isn't allowed to cheat?
yes! That's not even really cheating. Embrace Pearl.
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Pearl is good enough to cheat via proxy.
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Oh, if he didn't lie, I think the NCAA would've just taken a few phone calls away or an official visit or whatever. I doubt they would've touched schollys or anything.
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Oh, if he didn't lie, I think the NCAA would've just taken a few phone calls away or an official visit or whatever. I doubt they would've touched schollys or anything.
The NCAA looks at lying to them the same way they look at not telling them about improper benefits.
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I'm keeping my season tickets because Currie likes to walk down the aisle I sit on to get to his seats.
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I would like to see what the Currie/Angry Saul interaction will look like
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Pity eating has begun. First thing I did was order an entire pizza, delivered to my door so I can keep listening to KK. I walked to the townie grocery store down the block and bought some Ben & Jerry's while waiting for said pizza to be delivered. While in the townie grocery store they were playing "Don't You Forget About Me" on the radio.
:frown:
So now I am just resigned to spending the next three hours listening to BITB/BBS'n/melting down/eating this ice cream all by myself/eating this entire pizza all by myself. Then I'm gonna drink eleven beers.
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Pity eating has begun. First thing I did was order an entire pizza, delivered to my door so I can keep listening to KK. I walked to the townie grocery store down the block and bought some Ben & Jerry's while waiting for said pizza to be delivered. While in the townie grocery store they were playing "Don't You Forget About Me" on the radio.
:frown:
So now I am just resigned to spending the next three hours listening to BITB/BBS'n/melting down/eating this ice cream all by myself/eating this entire pizza all by myself. Then I'm gonna drink eleven beers.
:thumbs:
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what kind of pizza did you get? brand, toppings, crust, etc, tia.
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Pity eating has begun. First thing I did was order an entire pizza, delivered to my door so I can keep listening to KK. I walked to the townie grocery store down the block and bought some Ben & Jerry's while waiting for said pizza to be delivered. While in the townie grocery store they were playing "Don't You Forget About Me" on the radio.
:frown:
So now I am just resigned to spending the next three hours listening to BITB/BBS'n/melting down/eating this ice cream all by myself/eating this entire pizza all by myself. Then I'm gonna drink eleven beers.
I admire your restraint
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Pity eating has begun. First thing I did was order an entire pizza, delivered to my door so I can keep listening to KK. I walked to the townie grocery store down the block and bought some Ben & Jerry's while waiting for said pizza to be delivered. While in the townie grocery store they were playing "Don't You Forget About Me" on the radio.
:frown:
So now I am just resigned to spending the next three hours listening to BITB/BBS'n/melting down/eating this ice cream all by myself/eating this entire pizza all by myself. Then I'm gonna drink eleven beers.
:thumbs:
I have been listening to "Un-Break My Heart" by Toni Braxton on repeat.
Undo this hurt you caused
When you walked out the door
And walked out of my life
Un-cry these tears
I cried so many nights
Un-break my heart
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I ate an entire extra large pizza and a cinnapie from Papa Johns the other day. I gained like 28 pounds and couldn't move the rest of the day.
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in my opinion, you have to direct immediate anger at frank and hammer him with loyalty comments, "just like huggins," etc. then, once he's definitely gone (but after frank's presser), you bust out the pitch forks and go after currie with an intensity unknown to mankind.
also, if anyone thinks about attacking k-state prez, you're a clown. schulz is great and his family is awesome (especially the chunky kid with glasses, i think his name is andrew.)
this is my stance
yes. I got nothing but love for UPKS.
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what kind of pizza did you get? brand, toppings, crust, etc, tia.
There's an adorbs local pizza place down the road that makes really good woodfire pizza. Fresh toppings, lots of really great options, fresh side salads, etc.
I did not go there. I ordered a large sausage pizza from Pizza Hut instead because it just seemed sadder, which feels right.
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this sucks.
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ESPN now reporting that Martin met with SC today and no decisions were made yet
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I would like to see what the Currie/Angry Saul interaction will look like
"HEY CURRIE - YOU SUCK!"
...then quickly turn around acting like i'm trying to locate the person that yelled that.
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this is the second worst kstate moment of my life :bawl:
2nd to 1998 of course
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7739256/kansas-state-wildcats-frank-martin-consider-south-carolina-gamecocks-offer
Says deal is not done
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ESPN now reporting that Martin met with SC today and no decisions were made yet
Christ. I've already drilled out my ears with an ice fishing auger. Let's get it over with already.
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I hope Currie isn't answering the phone when Frank calls and says he's willing to hear one more offer. Let him sweat it a couple days John. eff him.
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Frank just lost. sending a text convo saying "I'm really serious this time....I'm really going to do this..." is just letting Currie know that he doesn't want to sign with that god awful school. Currie just won but there is too much damage now.
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Frank's leverage is gone. If he comes back it will be completely neutered. John could negotiate his salary downward at this point.
You held them too long Frank.
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Sorry Frank, oscar is already enroute. We got him both American Eagle exit row seats even though he's flying alone. Really showing him how baller we are.
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I hope Currie isn't answering the phone when Frank calls and says he's willing to hear one more offer. Let him sweat it a couple days John. eff him.
sorry missed yr call. picking up purple body paint on way to the MHK golf cart store thing. sup?
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When Frank pulls up to campus all of his crap better be out in front of the complex and we better have had movers clean out his rough ridin' house even though he still owns it.
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:lol:
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7739256/kansas-state-wildcats-frank-martin-consider-south-carolina-gamecocks-offer
Says deal is not done
I am honetsly curious as to what this means. Frank doesn't really gain anything with USC to publicly do this...
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BITB is talking about it now that Frank texted Katz and said it's not a done deal, so..............what am I supposed to do with this pizza?
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I hope Currie isn't answering the phone when Frank calls and says he's willing to hear one more offer. Let him sweat it a couple days John. eff him.
sorry missed yr call. picking up purple body paint on way to the MHK golf cart store thing. sup?
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Oh man.... :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
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When Frank pulls up to campus all of his crap better be out in front of the complex and we better have had movers clean out his rough ridin' house even though he still owns it.
lol
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When Frank pulls up to campus all of his crap better be out in front of the complex and we better have had movers clean out his rough ridin' house even though he still owns it.
Yeah. I want there to be cardboard boxes littering Vanier's lawn.
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7739256/kansas-state-wildcats-frank-martin-consider-south-carolina-gamecocks-offer
Says deal is not done
I am honetsly curious as to what this means. Frank doesn't really gain anything with USC to publicly do this...
He doesn't want to leave and he is leaving the door open for Currie to make it right.
Currie could give him a raise and bring him back, and make Frank look like the bad guy right now.
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i rough ridin' love goEMAW, you guys can turn such a downtrodden situation into something so rough ridin' funny...
I mean..
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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When Frank pulls up to campus all of his crap better be out in front of the complex and we better have had movers clean out his rough ridin' house even though he still owns it.
SCENE:
Frank's office is dark. you can see the sillouhette of Frank's giant leather executive chair behind his shiny mahogany desk. Frank flips on the light and is visibly startled when he sees someone in his chair. "Hi Frank," says Currie with a hint of a grin as he rolls his fingers on the glossy surface of the desk. "Where ya been?"
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oscar Pearl is not coming here.
KSU hoops is dead and will never be resurrected.
Its over.
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oscar Pearl is not coming here.
KSU hoops is dead and will never be resurrected.
Its over.
:frown:
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oscar Pearl is not coming here.
KSU hoops is dead and will never be resurrected.
Its over.
you are wrong and you're kind of getting on my nerves.
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Sorry Frank, that seat's taken. You know what? All of these seats are taken.
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BITB is talking about it now that Frank texted Katz and said it's not a done deal, so..............what am I supposed to do with this pizza?
Keep it warm, continue with the ice cream.
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LOL at BITB. "We're dealing with a couple of 2-year olds here."
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LOL at BITB. "We're dealing with a couple of 2-year olds here."
also my take
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LOL at BITB. "We're dealing with a couple of 2-year olds here."
also my take
:thumbs:
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LOL at BITB. "We're dealing with a couple of 2-year olds here."
also my take
Mine as well.
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BITB is talking about it now that Frank texted Katz and said it's not a done deal, so..............what am I supposed to do with this pizza?
apparently townies have never heard of "pizza party".
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"The deal isn't done" = I don't really don't want this job, please John, save me from this dead end decision, just throw me a bone.
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So frank is trying to decide if he should leave the girl he came to the dance with (girl next door) for the nasty hooker who will give it up right away? But the nasty hooker will end up killing you with her tramp infested aids. Hmmm... tough call here frank. Just keep banging the girl next door, dumbass.
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810 or 610 during frank watch???
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rob and kellis brought handwritten notes to currie's office? wtf does that even mean?
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810 or 610 during frank watch???
610 is on rough ridin' royals games.
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no, not two year olds. hardball. the rift is mostly a fabrication.
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oscar Pearl is not coming here.
KSU hoops is dead and will never be resurrected.
Its over.
you are wrong and you're kind of getting on my nerves.
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I'm going to go mow my lawn.
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rob and kellis brought handwritten notes to currie's office? wtf does that even mean?
rob's tidbits are interesting. Will Spradling and Underwood sightings.
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LOL at BITB. "We're dealing with a couple of 2-year olds here."
also my take
Mine as well.
2 year olds? So if you work for a boss you don't like and have another opportunity elsewhere with more money you don't go? just bc he works in sports doesn't mean he can't have the same opportunities as workers in other professions.
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810 or 610 during frank watch???
610 is on rough ridin' royals games.
Serious? Biggest news locally (FU KU and FF) and they broadcast a FING SPRING TRAINING GAME. FING CHRIST.
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Sooo... Frank finally comes to a last minute agreement with UPKS, effectively cutting off Curries' balls, right? :pray:
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I just want to know who to be mad at :runaway: :cry: :curse:
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LOL at BITB. "We're dealing with a couple of 2-year olds here."
also my take
Mine as well.
2 year olds? So if you work for a boss you don't like and have another opportunity elsewhere with more money you don't go? just bc he works in sports doesn't mean he can't have the same opportunities as workers in other professions.
I think it has more to do with the clear undertones/ overtones of spite and petty jealousy between them. Seriously, does any of this seem at all professional at any level?
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7739256/kansas-state-wildcats-frank-martin-consider-south-carolina-gamecocks-offer
Says deal is not done
I am honetsly curious as to what this means. Frank doesn't really gain anything with USC to publicly do this...
USC Fitz'd up? :dunno:
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Sooo... Frank finally comes to a last minute agreement with UPKS, effectively cutting off Curries' balls, right? :pray:
Dodd tweeting that the AP is saying Frank to USC just got done.
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AP says Frank is gone
AP Sources: Frank Martin takes South Carolina job
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COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) -- People familiar with the decision say Frank Martin has agreed to become South Carolina's next men's basketball coach.
The people spoke to The Associated Press Monday on condition of anonymity because the school had not announced the hiring. The university's board of trustees is scheduled to meet Tuesday morning to discuss an athletic contract matter.
Martin will replace Darrin Horn, who was fired two weeks ago after going 60-63 over four seasons. The Gamecocks finished last in the Southeastern Conference last year.
Martin is leaving Kansas State, which he led to the NCAA tournament four of the last five seasons. The Wildcats reached the regional finals in 2010. His overall record as a head coach is 117-54 and he is 6-4 in the NCAA tourney.
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LOL at BITB. "We're dealing with a couple of 2-year olds here."
also my take
Mine as well.
2 year olds? So if you work for a boss you don't like and have another opportunity elsewhere with more money you don't go? just bc he works in sports doesn't mean he can't have the same opportunities as workers in other professions.
Not to mention South Carolina's a dogshit job. He's going there because he's a baby.*
*This is in no way intended to excuse Currie, who I want run out of town on a rail, pronto.
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rob and kellis brought handwritten notes to currie's office? wtf does that even mean?
They didn't. They went to ask Currie some questions, and left a note with his secretary before they were escorted out.
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Tim Fitzgerald ? @LifeofFitz
Be warned @FrankMartinKSU, if you take the South Carolina job, I'm rolling with this headline: "Martin prefers Cocks". #gamecocks
:dunno:
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The only part not done is their board formally approving.
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Sooo... Frank finally comes to a last minute agreement with UPKS, effectively cutting off Curries' balls, right? :pray:
Dodd tweeting that the AP is saying Frank to USC just got done.
Didn't Frank just text otherwise? Check your sources!!!!!
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Yep, Mr Jingles will get to the circus.
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Sooo... Frank finally comes to a last minute agreement with UPKS, effectively cutting off Curries' balls, right? :pray:
Dodd tweeting that the AP is saying Frank to USC just got done.
Didn't Frank just text otherwise? Check your sources!!!!!
LMFAO, like anybody can ever believe anything Frank says.
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KSU will hire some no-name mid major coach and pay him ~ 1 million. KSU AD does not care about winning basketball, just barely profitable basketball that doesn't distract from the football team.
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AP says Frank is gone
AP Sources: Frank Martin takes South Carolina job
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COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) -- People familiar with the decision say Frank Martin has agreed to become South Carolina's next men's basketball coach.
The people spoke to The Associated Press Monday on condition of anonymity because the school had not announced the hiring. The university's board of trustees is scheduled to meet Tuesday morning to discuss an athletic contract matter.
Martin will replace Darrin Horn, who was fired two weeks ago after going 60-63 over four seasons. The Gamecocks finished last in the Southeastern Conference last year.
Martin is leaving Kansas State, which he led to the NCAA tournament four of the last five seasons. The Wildcats reached the regional finals in 2010. His overall record as a head coach is 117-54 and he is 6-4 in the NCAA tourney.
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This is the same sourceless bullshit everyone else has been "reporting"
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OMFG :gocho:
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I've been :curse: all day, but I'm more :frown: now
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seems to be getting a little quiet. I wonder if this is not as cut and dry as we had all initially believed. We are just going to have to wait for some new info to either :bang: or :excited:
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I've been :curse: all day, but I'm more :frown: now
Yeah, I am mellowing. Would still go drinking at the drop of a hat.
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I've been :curse: all day, but I'm more :frown: now
Same.
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If Frank takes the male genitals Sucking position, I hope he gets his ass into the sauce again and flames out.
If Frank stays, I will give him the benefit of the doubt one last time and admire him with quite a bit of hesitation.
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If Frank were to pull an Altman, I'd totally forgive him, instantly. He wont, though.
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If Frank were to pull an Altman, I'd totally forgive him, instantly. He wont, though.
We all would.
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can't wait till them ol bubba's realize that the black lady with him is his wife. and not the nanny....
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can't wait till them ol bubba's realize that the black lady with him is his wife. and not the nanny....
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can we stop with this crap? We will have plenty of "Frank is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)" material without this bologna.
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can't wait till them ol bubba's realize that the black lady with him is his wife. and not the nanny....
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You're just the worst.
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Man, can't emphasize enough how pumped I would be if we traded Frank for Pearl. God that'd be smooth.
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Man, can't emphasize enough how pumped I would be if we traded Frank for Pearl. God that'd be smooth.
We would also collect Frank's buyout, to boot.
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Remember when Anya said that she never would have imagined that there was a place like this? And she had tears in her eyes. I thought Frank would be here forever.
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His balls will be on Currie's shelf indefinitely if he doesn't take the SC job.
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Remember when Anya said that she never would have imagined that there was a place like this? And she had tears in her eyes. I thought Frank would be here forever.
:cry:
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Fitz on KK right now.
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Possibility that Currie was hoarding all this cash because he anticipated the donors were going to yank funds when he ran Frank off? :sdeek:
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Remember when Anya said that she never would have imagined that there was a place like this? And she had tears in her eyes. I thought Frank would be here forever.
eff.
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Here's what I don't get. I mean--I'm not melting down because if you're a K-State fan long enough, this crap happens. Apparently, it's been no secret that Currie doesn't like Frank. Apparently, it's been no secret that Frank doesn't like Currie. I mean...you have to think that the endgame always looked something like this to them. And, neither of them are idiots...they're masters at what they're doing--great at spin, great at PR. I mean..sure fans are mad at Frank...or potentially will be, but he'll walk out of here with anger, and into Columbia, SC as a hero. People mad at Frank? Sure--but he'll have nearly as many ready to fall in love with him.
Where I'm lost is...what was John Currie thinking? There was no endgame solution here that would make him look good? The only one is a great hire following Frank...but it still looks like he orchestrated the ouster of a beloved coach. Something doesn't add up..and it's not Frank's end. Currie's no idiot--he wouldn't get egg on his face for Frank staying so publicly pissed, or leaving with a public nastiness about Currie to anyone and everyone who wants to hear it...unless he had a plan. What that plan is? Dunno. But, it doesn't make sense to let this become a nightmare if you're Currie--because you're the one who has to deal with it...not your Coach.
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Wyatt is being "real honest" on "The Game" right now.
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I don't think Currie expected it to be SC. I think he thought a bigger program and he could go "Prestige, money, nothing I could do, etc" and fans would accept it. The reason Frank is winning this is because its SC
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Wyatt is being "real honest" on "The Game" right now.
"Don'tcha think?"
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Wyatt is being "real honest" on "The Game" right now.
fitz doesn't know when our last NCAA tournament before Huggs was.
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Here's what I don't get. I mean--I'm not melting down because if you're a K-State fan long enough, this crap happens. Apparently, it's been no secret that Currie doesn't like Frank. Apparently, it's been no secret that Frank doesn't like Currie. I mean...you have to think that the endgame always looked something like this to them. And, neither of them are idiots...they're masters at what they're doing--great at spin, great at PR. I mean..sure fans are mad at Frank...or potentially will be, but he'll walk out of here with anger, and into Columbia, SC as a hero. People mad at Frank? Sure--but he'll have nearly as many ready to fall in love with him.
Where I'm lost is...what was John Currie thinking? There was no endgame solution here that would make him look good? The only one is a great hire following Frank...but it still looks like he orchestrated the ouster of a beloved coach. Something doesn't add up..and it's not Frank's end. Currie's no idiot--he wouldn't get egg on his face for Frank staying so publicly pissed, or leaving with a public nastiness about Currie to anyone and everyone who wants to hear it...unless he had a plan. What that plan is? Dunno. But, it doesn't make sense to let this become a nightmare if you're Currie--because you're the one who has to deal with it...not your Coach.
What evidence do we have that he's not an idiot? I mean, I would love to give the guy credit, but looking back... I'm not sure for what. I love all of the building planning, but nothing is done (or paid for) yet... right?
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LOL at all of you doubting Currie. This has been planned for months.
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Here's what I don't get. I mean--I'm not melting down because if you're a K-State fan long enough, this crap happens. Apparently, it's been no secret that Currie doesn't like Frank. Apparently, it's been no secret that Frank doesn't like Currie. I mean...you have to think that the endgame always looked something like this to them. And, neither of them are idiots...they're masters at what they're doing--great at spin, great at PR. I mean..sure fans are mad at Frank...or potentially will be, but he'll walk out of here with anger, and into Columbia, SC as a hero. People mad at Frank? Sure--but he'll have nearly as many ready to fall in love with him.
Where I'm lost is...what was John Currie thinking? There was no endgame solution here that would make him look good? The only one is a great hire following Frank...but it still looks like he orchestrated the ouster of a beloved coach. Something doesn't add up..and it's not Frank's end. Currie's no idiot--he wouldn't get egg on his face for Frank staying so publicly pissed, or leaving with a public nastiness about Currie to anyone and everyone who wants to hear it...unless he had a plan. What that plan is? Dunno. But, it doesn't make sense to let this become a nightmare if you're Currie--because you're the one who has to deal with it...not your Coach.
What evidence do we have that he's not an idiot? I mean, I would love to give the guy credit, but looking back... I'm not sure for what. I love all of the building planning, but nothing is done (or paid for) yet... right?
Have you been to campus in a year? DF
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LOL at all of you doubting Currie. This has been planned for months.
Since last year's Miami job opened.
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Can't wait to get the tweet tonight that the USC BOR meeting for Tuesday is canceled.
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Here's what I don't get. I mean--I'm not melting down because if you're a K-State fan long enough, this crap happens. Apparently, it's been no secret that Currie doesn't like Frank. Apparently, it's been no secret that Frank doesn't like Currie. I mean...you have to think that the endgame always looked something like this to them. And, neither of them are idiots...they're masters at what they're doing--great at spin, great at PR. I mean..sure fans are mad at Frank...or potentially will be, but he'll walk out of here with anger, and into Columbia, SC as a hero. People mad at Frank? Sure--but he'll have nearly as many ready to fall in love with him.
Where I'm lost is...what was John Currie thinking? There was no endgame solution here that would make him look good? The only one is a great hire following Frank...but it still looks like he orchestrated the ouster of a beloved coach. Something doesn't add up..and it's not Frank's end. Currie's no idiot--he wouldn't get egg on his face for Frank staying so publicly pissed, or leaving with a public nastiness about Currie to anyone and everyone who wants to hear it...unless he had a plan. What that plan is? Dunno. But, it doesn't make sense to let this become a nightmare if you're Currie--because you're the one who has to deal with it...not your Coach.
What evidence do we have that he's not an idiot? I mean, I would love to give the guy credit, but looking back... I'm not sure for what. I love all of the building planning, but nothing is done (or paid for) yet... right?
Have you been to campus in a year? DF
Nope, enlighten me.
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LOL at all of you doubting Currie. This has been planned for months.
Since last year's Miami job opened.
That's what I'm getting at. There had to be a better way for him to get this done without the public backlash. Had to. This has been planned for awhile. So, why risk your job by making yourself look like you're caught with your pants down. This is a shrewd business man--the only way it makes sense to let this all play out is if you have an awesome exit strategy...if not, you come crawling to Frank, begging him to stay, and look forward to job searching yourself to get away from the man who made you look like a fool, and himself look like a king. He's not begged Frank. But, Currie still looks like a fool...and he knows it...unless...
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Here's what I don't get. I mean--I'm not melting down because if you're a K-State fan long enough, this crap happens. Apparently, it's been no secret that Currie doesn't like Frank. Apparently, it's been no secret that Frank doesn't like Currie. I mean...you have to think that the endgame always looked something like this to them. And, neither of them are idiots...they're masters at what they're doing--great at spin, great at PR. I mean..sure fans are mad at Frank...or potentially will be, but he'll walk out of here with anger, and into Columbia, SC as a hero. People mad at Frank? Sure--but he'll have nearly as many ready to fall in love with him.
Where I'm lost is...what was John Currie thinking? There was no endgame solution here that would make him look good? The only one is a great hire following Frank...but it still looks like he orchestrated the ouster of a beloved coach. Something doesn't add up..and it's not Frank's end. Currie's no idiot--he wouldn't get egg on his face for Frank staying so publicly pissed, or leaving with a public nastiness about Currie to anyone and everyone who wants to hear it...unless he had a plan. What that plan is? Dunno. But, it doesn't make sense to let this become a nightmare if you're Currie--because you're the one who has to deal with it...not your Coach.
What evidence do we have that he's not an idiot? I mean, I would love to give the guy credit, but looking back... I'm not sure for what. I love all of the building planning, but nothing is done (or paid for) yet... right?
Have you been to campus in a year? DF
Nope, enlighten me.
Go, then post your opinions that we haven't built anything.
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BP
Sat. morning I posted that So. Car. Asst FootBall Coach said that Coach Spurrier talked about Coach Martin coming to that U in a FB Meeting!
DIRECT = Spurrier & Martin on same Campus, WoW
my Miami contacts say that FM has been at ODDs with KS/AD for some time!
I don't post, just to read myself...
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LOL at all of you doubting Currie. This has been planned for months.
Seriously. Anyone who has ever had any contact with Currie or has even shook his hand as I have a couple times gets the immediate impression that the guy is a rough ridin' conniving jack russell terrier (and I mean that in the best way possible). I'd guess Martin is more on the defensive here than many realize. Now, you can disagree with Currie's plan, (I mostly do), but don't doubt that there is a plan in motion here.
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BP
Sat. morning I posted that So. Car. Asst FootBall Coach said that Coach Spurrier talked about Coach Martin coming to that U in a FB Meeting!
DIRECT = Spurrier & Martin on same Campus, WoW
my Miami contacts say that FM has been at ODDs with KS/AD for some time!
I don't post, just to read myself...
I also post, to pat myself on the back...
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This is why I'm #notworried. Currie has some genius plan and he's going to come out of this on top. He's a tuck bad person, but he's a smart tuck bad person. Even if Frank leaves, I'm #notworried.
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This is why I'm #notworried. Currie has some genius plan and he's going to come out of this on top. He's a tuck bad person, but he's a smart tuck bad person. Even if Frank leaves, I'm #notworried.
Bookmarked.
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This is why I'm #notworried. Currie has some genius plan and he's going to come out of this on top. He's a tuck bad person, but he's a smart tuck bad person. Even if Frank leaves, I'm #notworried.
No, he's just a moron. No good can come from this. There is no one out there. No one.
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This is why I'm #notworried. Currie has some genius plan and he's going to come out of this on top. He's a tuck bad person, but he's a smart tuck bad person. Even if Frank leaves, I'm #notworried.
No, he's just a moron. No good can come from this. There is no one out there. No one.
I don't actually believe that, I just wanted people to quote my post.
I thrive on attention.
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Jpullz0 "no I cant coach yet"
Well, there goes my plan... :frown:
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Jpullz0 "no I cant coach yet"
Well, there goes my plan... :frown:
Yet. In 15 years, after more slth, jake will come back and save us!
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Jpullz0 "no I cant coach yet"
Well, there goes my plan... :frown:
Yet. In 15 years, after more slth, jake will come back and save us!
Will take, so hard. SO HARD!
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Go, then post your opinions that we haven't built anything.
Right, basketball practice facility is well on its way. I was wrong to say nothing is done. But when you compare that win with the loss of this coach who got the fans back interested in Basketball (better stated, kept fans interested after we lost Huggins)... is that a net gain?
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Have learned that the Kansas Board of Regents has met and is now involved in Martin/Currie situation
This just doesnt end.
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I don't think Currie expected it to be SC. I think he thought a bigger program and he could go "Prestige, money, nothing I could do, etc" and fans would accept it. The reason Frank is winning this is because its SC
This truly makes sense
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I will say that this seems to be dragging on a hell of a lot longer than Huggins to WVU.
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Have learned that the Kansas Board of Regents has met and is now involved in Martin/Currie situation
This just doesnt end.
i don't want it to. this is amazing.
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:zzz:
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The good news on top of Upshaw not signing his LOI, is that according to Upshaw's mom Frank told them not to
Master threads make it very hard to keep up.
Just making sure that it has been established that Fedor completely made this up
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I don't think Currie expected it to be SC. I think he thought a bigger program and he could go "Prestige, money, nothing I could do, etc" and fans would accept it. The reason Frank is winning this is because its SC
This truly makes sense
Because it is SC is why it seems to me Frank is not winning this.
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Cole Manbeck
Have learned that the Kansas Board of Regents has met and is now involved in Martin/Currie situation
This just doesnt end.
wtf :lol:
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The good news on top of Upshaw not signing his LOI, is that according to Upshaw's mom Frank told them not to
Master threads make it very hard to keep up.
Just making sure that it has been established that Fedor completely made this up
Rob said this on GPC and twitter, fwiw. I didn't believe it for a while, still not sure if I do. Just letting you know it's not Fedor.
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I don't think Currie expected it to be SC. I think he thought a bigger program and he could go "Prestige, money, nothing I could do, etc" and fans would accept it. The reason Frank is winning this is because its SC
This truly makes sense
Because it is SC is why it seems to me Frank is not winning this.
Both are losing at the moment.
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The good news on top of Upshaw not signing his LOI, is that according to Upshaw's mom Frank told them not to
Master threads make it very hard to keep up.
Just making sure that it has been established that Fedor completely made this up
Rob said this on GPC and twitter, fwiw. I didn't believe it for a while, still not sure if I do. Just letting you know it's not Fedor.
the Frank told them not to part seems made up. not the fact he didnt sign.
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The good news on top of Upshaw not signing his LOI, is that according to Upshaw's mom Frank told them not to
Master threads make it very hard to keep up.
Just making sure that it has been established that Fedor completely made this up
Rob said this on GPC and twitter, fwiw. I didn't believe it for a while, still not sure if I do. Just letting you know it's not Fedor.
the Frank told them not to part seems made up. not the fact he didnt sign.
Yeah, I agree. Sorry, missed the part that was in bold.
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The good news on top of Upshaw not signing his LOI, is that according to Upshaw's mom Frank told them not to
Master threads make it very hard to keep up.
Just making sure that it has been established that Fedor completely made this up
Rob said this on GPC and twitter, fwiw. I didn't believe it for a while, still not sure if I do. Just letting you know it's not Fedor.
the Frank told them not to part seems made up. not the fact he didnt sign.
Don't believe the "frank told him not too" part was included.
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from rob...
Upshaw's mom on not signing a letter:
"We were smarter than that. There was too much stuff going on already."
It's unclear whether or not it was Frank's idea or Upshaw's idea not to sign. Trying to clarify that.
he never clarified, that i saw.
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LOL at BITB. "We're dealing with a couple of 2-year olds here."
also my take
Mine as well.
uninformed
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from rob...
Upshaw's mom on not signing a letter:
"We were smarter than that. There was too much stuff going on already."
It's unclear whether or not it was Frank's idea or Upshaw's idea not to sign. Trying to clarify that.
he never clarified, that i saw.
WTF IS GOING ON HERE :runaway:
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Cole Manbeck
Have learned that the Kansas Board of Regents has met and is now involved in Martin/Currie situation
This just doesnt end.
If that's true seems pretty weird that the regents would get involved in a coaching change.
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The good news on top of Upshaw not signing his LOI, is that according to Upshaw's mom Frank told them not to
Master threads make it very hard to keep up.
Just making sure that it has been established that Fedor completely made this up
Rob said this on GPC and twitter, fwiw. I didn't believe it for a while, still not sure if I do. Just letting you know it's not Fedor.
pew pew pew all up in your face MIR.
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"I'm a walking mistake. I make more mistakes than the next person on this planet. There's not a day that goes by where I don't mess something up. But there's two things that I am consistent with in every decision I make and every step I take, and that's honesty and loyalty. [My father's] lack of loyalty to our family, his lack of honesty toward our family, I saw the pain that brought my mom, my sister, and those are the kinds of things that I kind of saw and said, 'You know, as a man growing up, I need to make sure that these traits are what I'm about. I never saw them in the person that was my father."
—Frank Martin, on Dan Le Batard is Highly Questionable, Dec. 13, 2011.
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The good news on top of Upshaw not signing his LOI, is that according to Upshaw's mom Frank told them not to
Master threads make it very hard to keep up.
Just making sure that it has been established that Fedor completely made this up
Rob said this on GPC and twitter, fwiw. I didn't believe it for a while, still not sure if I do. Just letting you know it's not Fedor.
pew pew pew all up in your face MIR.
I read the tweet and the GPC article and robs post on Wabash and none of them say Frank told him not to sign
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It's unclear whether or not it was Frank's idea or Upshaw's idea not to sign. Trying to clarify that.
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"I'm a walking mistake. I make more mistakes than the next person on this planet. There's not a day that goes by where I don't mess something up. But there's two things that I am consistent with in every decision I make and every step I take, and that's honesty and loyalty. [My father's] lack of loyalty to our family, his lack of honesty toward our family, I saw the pain that brought my mom, my sister, and those are the kinds of things that I kind of saw and said, 'You know, as a man growing up, I need to make sure that these traits are what I'm about. I never saw them in the person that was my father."
—Frank Martin, on Dan Le Batard is Highly Questionable, Dec. 13, 2011.
If he leaves we should all just tweet this at him over and over
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810 or 610 during frank watch???
610 is on rough ridin' royals games.
Serious? Biggest news locally (FU KU and FF) and they broadcast a FING SPRING TRAINING GAME. FING CHRIST.
contracts are a bitch
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"I'm a walking mistake. I make more mistakes than the next person on this planet. There's not a day that goes by where I don't mess something up. But there's two things that I am consistent with in every decision I make and every step I take, and that's honesty and loyalty. [My father's] lack of loyalty to our family, his lack of honesty toward our family, I saw the pain that brought my mom, my sister, and those are the kinds of things that I kind of saw and said, 'You know, as a man growing up, I need to make sure that these traits are what I'm about. I never saw them in the person that was my father."
—Frank Martin, on Dan Le Batard is Highly Questionable, Dec. 13, 2011.
That show is just awful. But Goddamnit Frank.
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Cole Manbeck
Have learned that the Kansas Board of Regents has met and is now involved in Martin/Currie situation
This just doesnt end.
If that's true seems pretty weird that the regents would get involved in a coaching change.
this is just currie unfolding his master plan so they can pre-approve in secret and we have no delay in getting pearl here.
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"I'm a walking mistake. I make more mistakes than the next person on this planet. There's not a day that goes by where I don't mess something up. But there's two things that I am consistent with in every decision I make and every step I take, and that's honesty and loyalty. [My father's] lack of loyalty to our family, his lack of honesty toward our family, I saw the pain that brought my mom, my sister, and those are the kinds of things that I kind of saw and said, 'You know, as a man growing up, I need to make sure that these traits are what I'm about. I never saw them in the person that was my father."
—Frank Martin, on Dan Le Batard is Highly Questionable, Dec. 13, 2011.
I find this quote hard to believe as there is only one "you know" in there.
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LOL at BITB. "We're dealing with a couple of 2-year olds here."
also my take
Mine as well.
2 year olds? So if you work for a boss you don't like and have another opportunity elsewhere with more money you don't go? just bc he works in sports doesn't mean he can't have the same opportunities as workers in other professions.
I think it has more to do with the clear undertones/ overtones of spite and petty jealousy between them. Seriously, does any of this seem at all professional at any level?
Seems human and not at all uncommon for people with real jobs. Pretty sure that most people that quit or are fired from jobs are because of personality conflicts on one level or another.
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LOL at BITB. "We're dealing with a couple of 2-year olds here."
also my take
Mine as well.
2 year olds? So if you work for a boss you don't like and have another opportunity elsewhere with more money you don't go? just bc he works in sports doesn't mean he can't have the same opportunities as workers in other professions.
I think it has more to do with the clear undertones/ overtones of spite and petty jealousy between them. Seriously, does any of this seem at all professional at any level?
Seems human and not at all uncommon for people with real jobs. Pretty sure that most people that quit or are fired from jobs are because of personality conflicts on one level or another.
these are not real jobs
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The good news on top of Upshaw not signing his LOI, is that according to Upshaw's mom Frank told them not to
Master threads make it very hard to keep up.
Just making sure that it has been established that Fedor completely made this up
Rob said this on GPC and twitter, fwiw. I didn't believe it for a while, still not sure if I do. Just letting you know it's not Fedor.
pew pew pew all up in your face MIR.
I read the tweet and the GPC article and robs post on Wabash and none of them say Frank told him not to sign
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It's unclear whether or not it was Frank's idea or Upshaw's idea not to sign. Trying to clarify that.
crap, my source was the guy in the office next door. Did not make it up though.....pew pew pew :cry:
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@Jpullz0: Ok here it go Frank Dalonte Brad Scott and Figg help create the player I am now so matter what happens I support them but I'm #EMAW4Life
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@LifeofFitz: Bring. Me. Vodka. Pour. In. Mouth.
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"I'm a walking mistake. I make more mistakes than the next person on this planet. There's not a day that goes by where I don't mess something up. But there's two things that I am consistent with in every decision I make and every step I take, and that's honesty and loyalty. [My father's] lack of loyalty to our family, his lack of honesty toward our family, I saw the pain that brought my mom, my sister, and those are the kinds of things that I kind of saw and said, 'You know, as a man growing up, I need to make sure that these traits are what I'm about. I never saw them in the person that was my father."
—Frank Martin, on Dan Le Batard is Highly Questionable, Dec. 13, 2011.
That show is just awful. But Goddamnit Frank.
That show is amazing
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LOL at BITB. "We're dealing with a couple of 2-year olds here."
also my take
Mine as well.
2 year olds? So if you work for a boss you don't like and have another opportunity elsewhere with more money you don't go? just bc he works in sports doesn't mean he can't have the same opportunities as workers in other professions.
I think it has more to do with the clear undertones/ overtones of spite and petty jealousy between them. Seriously, does any of this seem at all professional at any level?
Seems human and not at all uncommon for people with real jobs. Pretty sure that most people that quit or are fired from jobs are because of personality conflicts on one level or another.
these are not real jobs
In this case they are the realist, those of us working our jobs don't have the external pressures and scrutiny that can exacerbate personality conflicts.
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Turn the practice facility into something for football. LHC Bill Snyder will send Frank a hand written thank you note :lynchmob:
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Get real! I love Jake, but there is no proof he could coach a Jr High team. And so much involved - contracts, managing people, etc. Most good/great players stink as coaches.
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In this case they are the realist, those of us working our jobs don't have the external pressures and scrutiny that can exacerbate personality conflicts.
We also aren't making millions, and running away from a shitty boss will not have the potential to cost us several more millions, as it could with Frank.
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Good grief, how do you guys read that stuff?
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Cole Manbeck
Have learned that the Kansas Board of Regents has met and is now involved in Martin/Currie situation
This just doesnt end.
wtf :lol:
W.T.F. Do these morons realize it is just our COACH that is going to the SEC this time, not our entire AD? Unless this is Frank demanding mediation of some point in order to try to stay in MHK, this seems highly useless, and that scenarion seems unlikely even for this goat eff of a situation
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Cole Manbeck
Have learned that the Kansas Board of Regents has met and is now involved in Martin/Currie situation
This just doesnt end.
wtf :lol:
W.T.F. Do these morons realize it is just our COACH that is going to the SEC this time, not our entire AD? Unless this is Frank demanding mediation of some point in order to try to stay in MHK, this seems highly useless, and that scenarion seems unlikely even for this goat eff of a situation
Or maybe it is Currie starting the process of hiring oscar Pearl? Getting permission from the Board would definitely come into play with such a controversial move... :driving:
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@LifeofFitz: Bring. Me. Vodka. Pour. In. Mouth.
@123laceyj Working so I've been on @GoPowercat all day and doing media.
ALL DAY LONG!!! :curse:
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@LifeofFitz: Bring. Me. Vodka. Pour. In. Mouth.
@123laceyj Working so I've been on @GoPowercat all day and doing media.
ALL DAY LONG!!! :curse:
THE WHOLE DAY?!
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Cole Manbeck
Have learned that the Kansas Board of Regents has met and is now involved in Martin/Currie situation
This just doesnt end.
wtf :lol:
W.T.F. Do these morons realize it is just our COACH that is going to the SEC this time, not our entire AD? Unless this is Frank demanding mediation of some point in order to try to stay in MHK, this seems highly useless, and that scenarion seems unlikely even for this goat eff of a situation
Or maybe it is Currie starting the process of hiring oscar Pearl? Getting permission from the Board would definitely come into play with such a controversial move... :driving:
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Glad I dont give a crap about basketball.
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we need to get this @Sheridan_W posting here. :fatty:
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Currie is not going to save the day retards. He started this mess by being a goodie two shoes self reporting violations. Frank might be a baby for committing career suicide, but don't think this is part of curries master plan. Currie is appeasing bill by killing the basketball program
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Currie is not going to save the day retards. He started this mess by being a goodie two shoes self reporting violations. Frank might be a baby for committing career suicide, but don't think this is part of curries master plan. Currie is appeasing bill by killing the basketball program
if you think bill likes him then you'd be wrong.
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Currie is not going to save the day retards. He started this mess by being a goodie two shoes self reporting violations. Frank might be a baby for committing career suicide, but don't think this is part of curries master plan. Currie is appeasing bill by killing the basketball program
But what if Currie does? What if?
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Currie is not going to save the day retards. He started this mess by being a goodie two shoes self reporting violations. Frank might be a baby for committing career suicide, but don't think this is part of curries master plan. Currie is appeasing bill by killing the basketball program
But what if Currie does? What if?
Name the hires where you would feel like the day is saved, then let's see if we get any of those guys. Also, by "day is saved" I mean a coach that can step in and take us to the NCAA 4 out of 5 years.
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Currie is not going to save the day retards. He started this mess by being a goodie two shoes self reporting violations. Frank might be a baby for committing career suicide, but don't think this is part of curries master plan. Currie is appeasing bill by killing the basketball program
if you think bill likes him then you'd be wrong.
Not implying that. Implying currie is trying to suck up to bill. Bill killed basketball the first time
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"The last 24 hours have been real difficult for me. Being around those seniors and their families that believed in me when they didn't have to. Then having to deal with losing, which a little piece of me dies every time we lose, and then have to deal with the joy of this incredible opportunity that John has afforded me here. I can't be more thankful to this university for its loyalty to me and my family, to our staff. I'm having a tough time finding words as I've been reflecting all day today, from selling newspaper ads to being the poolhall change boy when I was 12, to making the dollar-figure that I'm getting ready to make. I just met with the team, that's why I was a couple minutes late, and it was important to me to say thank you to those guys. But this university is under incredible leadership right now. For you media folks, I want to say thank you for the majority of you being so understanding when you were asking questions about this contract deal and respecting my answers to you, which were the truth. I didn't want it to interfere with the team.
I told John, from Day 1, I said, 'John, I want us - I want, because we didn't know each other - and I understand how important the head men's basketball coach is to a university. And I told him from Day 1, I said, 'John, I want to be the guy that grows old with you here. I don't want you to offer me a contract because it's en vogue. I want to do it because you believe in me. And obviously, he has shown that faith in our staff and my family and myself to give me this wonderful opportunity ... It just goes to show, if you try to do right by people, and you do your job, that good things can happen to you."
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for those who are having trouble keeping score in the match between frank vs. currie, currie is winning.
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That picture does not look like it matches those words.
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Currie is not going to save the day retards. He started this mess by being a goodie two shoes self reporting violations. Frank might be a baby for committing career suicide, but don't think this is part of curries master plan. Currie is appeasing bill by killing the basketball program
But what if Currie does? What if?
Name the hires where you would feel like the day is saved, then let's see if we get any of those guys. Also, by "day is saved" I mean a coach that can step in and take us to the NCAA 4 out of 5 years.
I don't care enough about Bball to know any good coaches. I want Currie because I don't want anything to eff up our Facility improvements.
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Bill killed basketball the first time
Just how did he do this? Run Kruger out of town? Hire tan tom?
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"I never realized swallowing was so difficult." — Frank Martin, March 8, 2010.
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That picture does not look like it matches those words.
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"I never realized swallowing was so difficult." — Frank Martin, March 8, 2010.
I lol'd
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It will be funny when Frank yells at the gamecocks color guy about where the hell the fans are, and they will not care.
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for those who are having trouble keeping score in the match between frank vs. currie, currie is winning.
Unfortunately, it seems that's correct. I believe things went into hyper drive when Frank made the comments, on TV, about giving money to past high school players. With JC being a compliance nazi, I'm sure his head almost exploded when he saw/heard that. I have no doubts that he got his little group of SS officers to investigating anything involving money and Frank. This may be more why the Board of Regents are getting involved. I would assume that the BOR wants to know if there is any possible negative impact on one of their schools from any past possible shenanigans. imo
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for those who are having trouble keeping score in the match between frank vs. currie, currie is winning.
Unfortunately, it seems that's correct. I believe things went into hyper drive when Frank made the comments, on TV, about giving money to past high school players. With JC being a compliance nazi, I'm sure his head almost exploded when he saw/heard that. I have no doubts that he got his little group of SS officers to investigating anything involving money and Frank. This may be more why the Board of Regents are getting involved. I would assume that the BOR wants to know if there is any possible negative impact on one of their schools from any past possible shenanigans. imo
well frank is a rough ridin' idiot for doing that, so i don't blame john currie for being pissed about it.
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10:30AM presser (9:30 for you dumbfucks in KS)
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for those who are having trouble keeping score in the match between frank vs. currie, currie is winning.
if winning means that frank is no longer our coach then yeah. he won. it's over fellas. turn out the lights.
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10:30AM presser (9:30 for you dumbfucks in KS)
I assume that means SC presser
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Bill killed basketball the first time
Just how did he do this? Run Kruger out of town? Hire tan tom?
Prior to finalizing his hire he made FB budget demands that were above the then FB budget. It was pretty clear that BB budgets were going to be cut and in Kruger's last year he started to feel the pinch of his own budget in order for the AD to meet Bill's budget and realized that trend was going to continue. So yes, he ran Kruger out of town.
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Five people who will not be the next basketball coach at KSU:
1. John Wooden
2. oscar Pearl
3. Gary Patterson
4. Tex Winter
5. Lon Kruger
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10:30AM presser (9:30 for you dumbfucks in KS)
I assume that means SC presser
kstate is going to have one too.
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godammit. I do not want to have to rearrange my schedule just so I can mock Frank Martin hard on twitter.
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What's it going to take to get dax a media credential for the south carolina presser so he can ask frank if he will continue to recruit right fighters.
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I like j rakes 'shops a lot more when they are satirical
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10:30AM presser (9:30 for you dumbfucks in KS)
I assume that means SC presser
kstate is going to have one too.
Same time? Or has it been announced yet?
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The hell is this?
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It appears KSU has far bigger issues than Frank Martin leaving. Tune in at 6 for the discussion tomorrow on 610 Sports Radio #emaw
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He had to come back to tell the players. When will that start leaking? And which players do you think wept? eff I hate this.
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The hell is this?
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It appears KSU has far bigger issues than Frank Martin leaving. Tune in at 6 for the discussion tomorrow on 610 Sports Radio #emaw
a lame attempt at BITB'ing.
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The hell is this?
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It appears KSU has far bigger issues than Frank Martin leaving. Tune in at 6 for the discussion tomorrow on 610 Sports Radio #emaw
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The hell is this?
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It appears KSU has far bigger issues than Frank Martin leaving. Tune in at 6 for the discussion tomorrow on 610 Sports Radio #emaw
The Animal will not put up with this crap, is firing everyone in athletics. Tomorrow, we start anew.
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South Carolina will have a news conference tomorrow at 10 a.m. to indroduce Frank Martin as new coach. 6-year deal, $12 million.
COACHING SEARCH BBS'ING TIME :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
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Currie is not going to save the day retards. He started this mess by being a goodie two shoes self reporting violations. Frank might be a baby for committing career suicide, but don't think this is part of curries master plan. Currie is appeasing bill by killing the basketball program
But what if Currie does? What if?
Name the hires where you would feel like the day is saved, then let's see if we get any of those guys. Also, by "day is saved" I mean a coach that can step in and take us to the NCAA 4 out of 5 years.
Larry Eustacy, I mean you can drink beer with that dood, and he already knows his way around the campus periphery, and he's a pretty good coach. Let's face it boys he's probably the best we could get right now, I'm being serious here.
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The hell is this?
Bob Fescoe ? @bobfescoe Close
It appears KSU has far bigger issues than Frank Martin leaving. Tune in at 6 for the discussion tomorrow on 610 Sports Radio #emaw
1 of 2 things.
1. His tardy/lame attempt at making a big deal of Frank admitting to giving his students some money when in high school;
2. Pretending to "break" the story of alleged rift between Snyders and Currie.
I'd bet #2.
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Jeff Goodman ? @GoodmanCBS Close
South Carolina will have a news conference tomorrow at 10 a.m. to indroduce Frank Martin as new coach. 6-year deal, $12 million.
COACHING SEARCH BBS'ING TIME :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
I mean that is probably the most reliable media source out there right?
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Jeff Goodman ? @GoodmanCBS Close
South Carolina will have a news conference tomorrow at 10 a.m. to indroduce Frank Martin as new coach. 6-year deal, $12 million.
COACHING SEARCH BBS'ING TIME :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
Decent raise. Should help make up for the girls team getting more butts in seats.
GO TIGERS, GATORS, COMMODORES, WILDCATS, BULLDOGS, but not VOLUNTEERS (eff them, Currie likes them).
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Jeff Goodman ? @GoodmanCBS Close
South Carolina will have a news conference tomorrow at 10 a.m. to indroduce Frank Martin as new coach. 6-year deal, $12 million.
COACHING SEARCH BBS'ING TIME :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
It's over when it's over. damnit baby damnit.
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i bet bob's taint is getting a real good rubbing right now at someone's newsdesk.
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Jeff Goodman ? @GoodmanCBS Close
South Carolina will have a news conference tomorrow at 10 a.m. to indroduce Frank Martin as new coach. 6-year deal, $12 million.
COACHING SEARCH BBS'ING TIME :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
It's over when it's over. damnit baby damnit.
+10 points for the Eric Church reference
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ALL ABOARD THE SHOW CLAUSE EXPRESS
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Jeff Goodman ? @GoodmanCBS Close
South Carolina will have a news conference tomorrow at 10 a.m. to indroduce Frank Martin as new coach. 6-year deal, $12 million.
COACHING SEARCH BBS'ING TIME :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
It's over when it's over. damnit baby damnit.
+10 points for the Eric Church reference
+100 points for recognizing it and not making fun of me.
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What a bastard Martin is. Terrible person with zero integrity.
Absolute scum.
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Good grief frank at least give us a reach around and leak some good crap on the way out the door.
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All he wanted was $2 million.
Good thing to remember when we piss away the next 10 years of basketball and hire some mid major scrub for the same dollar amount.
My God, this effing administration is incompetent.
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All he wanted was $2 million.
LOL, have you been paying attention at all?
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it took frank martin leaving for me to start liking john currie :lol:
i will now root for k-state hoops going forward.
:ksu:
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What a bastard Martin is. Terrible person with zero integrity.
Absolute scum.
yep
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All he wanted was $2 million.
LOL, have you been paying attention at all?
Lol. Of course he hated Currie. Money fixes a lot. Not even rough ridin' negotiating is what pisses me off.
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I like that Rusty keeps calling the show cause thing a show clause
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I like that Rusty keeps calling the show cause thing a show clause
I call it a show cause clause.
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I like that Rusty keeps calling the show cause thing a show clause
lol
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I like that Rusty keeps calling the show cause thing a show clause
Yes. Stick to your guns Rusty!
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I like that Rusty keeps calling the show cause thing a show clause
lol
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What a whore, Frank turned out to be.
All this "loyalty" and "teaching them to become men" bullshit. When the going got tough, did he stick around? No - he bailed. He ditched us the very first chance he got.
What a hypocrite. What a pathetic joke of a man.
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I don't really care whose fault this is. I care that after 5 seasons of hearing Frank Martin talk about how he's not coaching, but teaching boys to become young men, how in the real world if you mess up you get fired and how tough life is and all of his math teacher, poor Cuban immigrant horseshit... he's going to tuck his tail and run to an inferior program when things get a little tough. Everyone has disagreements with management but if you like the company, you stay.
Frank Martin. Huge pussy. Massive hypocrite.
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WHY ARE THERE NOT RIOTS ALREADY?????
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eff this noise.
Both Currie and Martin are pieces of crap, but Currie is definitely the bigger one.
This is just unbelivable. Only at K-State. This tops the million dollar marker to Prince on a napkin. Seriously, Currie mumped this one up. I had his back up till now, but if he can't figure out how to keep our basketball coach from being hired away by the worst team in the SEC, we might as well not bother with a basketball program. Damnit! We've got a legit Top 20 team coming back for next year, BIG XII PoY candidate in McGruder, legit 7 footer in Upshaw, a $20M practice facility, and some of the best fans in the country......but it appears that doesn't mean crap when you hate your boss THAT much.
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Jesus the up and down of it all. Full range in short time. I was v mad earlier, then pretty damn sad not to long ago. Now I am actually getting excited about the new guy. Nervous that Currie could Tuck up the opportunity, still a little mad, but mostly excited.
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Kim English ? @Englishscope24 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
#FireTheAD RT @GoodmanCBS: Sources told http://CBSSports.com that Kansas State athletic director made minimal effort to keep Frank Martin.
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just in case anyone isn't 100% sure. you can be. it's official.
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Kim English ? @Englishscope24 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
#FireTheAD RT @GoodmanCBS: Sources told http://CBSSports.com that Kansas State athletic director made minimal effort to keep Frank Martin.
rough ridin' Kim English .
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I'm 100% on the eff Frank bandwagon.
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we will all look back at this and laugh when south carolina fires frank in a few years for being mediocre
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I hope the ace up Currie's sleeve is suited.
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minimal effort!
something really good is coming! or something really bad!
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:curse: I CARE ABOUT KSU HOOPS :curse:
eff you john currie for not
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I'm 100% on the eff Frank bandwagon.
I will never be off this train for the duration of his career.
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we will all look back at this and laugh when south carolina fires frank in a few years for being mediocre
His dumbass will inevitably hit one of the players and get fired
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we will all look back at this and laugh when south carolina fires frank in a few years for being mediocre
no we won't
all 5 of us ksu hoops fans left will be crying about a three year road conference losing streak
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:curse: I CARE ABOUT KSU HOOPS :curse:
eff you john currie for not
This
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:curse: I CARE ABOUT KSU HOOPS :curse:
eff you john currie for not
This
ProTip:
Frank doesn't care about KSU hoops either.
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i look forward to reading USC message boards...and knowing exactly what they are going through. Bitching about early season failures, running off players, F Bombs...and probably winning. But i will enjoy it.
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I'm 100% on the eff Frank bandwagon.
You can be on the eff Frank bandwagon and the eff Currie bandwagon at the same time. :combofuck:
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I think I might be done with this school. Hate to be overly dramatic but there it is. I don't even know if oscar could bring a flicker of hope back to me. Would a sweet 16 run next year change things? Maybe, probably. All I know is that I'm tired. Very, very tired... Nothing really makes sense to me. Tired.
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:curse: I CARE ABOUT KSU HOOPS :curse:
eff you john currie for not
This
ProTip:
Frank doesn't care about KSU hoops either.
He's not the rough ridin' AD dumbass who will hire the next bball coach and determine the direction of the program for the next decade.
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I tried to get @FrankMartinUSC, but username is already taken.
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So we don't have a MBB coach and our Football Coach is as old as Yoda...eff me.
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7739256/frank-martin-leaves-kansas-state-wildcats-become-south-carolina-gamecocks-coach
SoonerFaithful
Weird. Seems like a step down actually.
106 fans like this.
:thumbs:
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I tried to get @FrankMartinUSC, but username is already taken.
I've also tried. However that username "Doesn't exist"
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I tried to get @FrankMartinUSC, but username is already taken.
I've also tried. However that username "Doesn't exist"
Yeah...maybe he has it "on hold"
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Go go gadget coaching searches. This is going to be fun.
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I think I might be done with this school. Hate to be overly dramatic but there it is. I don't even know if oscar could bring a flicker of hope back to me. Would a sweet 16 run next year change things? Maybe, probably. All I know is that I'm tired. Very, very tired... Nothing really makes sense to me. Tired.
This is how I feel right now too. I never even really liked bball much before Frank and Huggs. I can't believe this happened.
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When the sun sets on today, we'll be one step closer to football season. #BeatMissouriState
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I'm 100% on the eff Frank bandwagon.
You can be on the eff Frank bandwagon and the eff Currie bandwagon at the same time. :combofuck:
:combofuck:
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beaten by chickenaggie.
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Go go gadget coaching searches. This is going to be fun.
Unless there is a shitload of oscar Pearl smoke, (preferably from a nice cigar), it probably won't be very fun. :frown:
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Whoevs said this all bhappens for a reason was talking about outing all the football losers passing themselves off as bb fans.
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atleast frank will be soaking up the rays in socal....oh wait he's going to south carolina :lol:
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Whoevs said this all bhappens for a reason was talking about outing all the football losers passing themselves off as bb fans.
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I mean....
DATE TIME OPPONENT SCORE ATTEND HIGH POINTS HIGH REBOUNDS
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11/11/11 7 p.m. WESTERN CAROLINA W 75-50 9330 (14)GILL, Anthony (10)JACKSON, Lakeem
11/15/11 7:00 p.m. at Elon 53-58 L 1589 (9)GILL, Anthony (10)HARRIS, Damontre
(9)COOKE, Malik
11/20/11 6 p.m. ! TENNESSEE STATE 63-64 L 9045 (18)SMITH, Eric (7)HARRIS, Damontre
11/22/11 7 p.m. ! MISS. VALLEY STATE W 61-57 6723 (18)COOKE, Malik (8)GILL, Anthony
11/25/11 7:00pm & vs NC 62-87 L 5567 (15)LEONARD, Damien (14)SLAWSON, RJ
11/26/11 4:30pm & vs Southern Cal 60-63 L 1798 (15)HARRIS, Damontre (6)HARRIS, Damontre
12/1/11 7 p.m. ^ PROVIDENCE COLLEGE 67-76 L
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someone change the eff's wiki page so were not his current job
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Yeah this coaching search is going to suck very very bad.
You think Nebraska got embarassed...
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someone change the eff's wiki page so were not his current job
already done
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atleast frank will be soaking up the rays in socal....oh wait he's going to south carolina :lol:
Only about 100 miles from Hilton Head. Love that place........
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I am in a very odd state of static apathy. I am numb to this news.
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"Yeah but we're the second most profitable school in the conference making tons of money and our books are all squeaky clean."
This is what I have??? eff YOU CURRIE!
AND eff YOU FRANK!
Plz pm me if you have several xanax and some vicadin and live in the o.p. area. tia. tired.
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atleast frank will be soaking up the rays in socal....oh wait he's going to south carolina :lol:
myrtle beach, hilton head..
yeah, he's really gonna miss tuttle. good grief man.
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I wonder how excited Frank will be when he realizes he's not even second fiddle at USC? I don't care what the fans and AD say about supporting basketball, but football and baseball will always be #1 & 2 at USC.
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"Yeah but we're the second most profitable school in the conference making tons of money and our books are all squeaky clean."
This is what I have??? eff YOU CURRIE!
AND eff YOU FRANK!
Plz pm me if you have several xanax and some vicadin and live in the o.p. area. tia. tired.
Squeaky clean...just how we like our empty trophy cases.
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"Yeah but we're the second most profitable school in the conference making tons of money and our books are all squeaky clean."
This is what I have??? eff YOU CU0RRIE!
AND eff YOU FRANK!
Plz pm me if you have several xanax and some vicadin and live in the o.p. area. tia. tired.
Squeaky clean...just how we like our empty trophy cases.
Diamond Head Classic mother rough rider!
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Get angry at Frank, just like the those who get angry at the sun for killing your goats.
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i look forward to reading USC message boards...and knowing exactly what they are going through. Bitching about early season failures, running off players, F Bombs...and probably winning. But i will enjoy it.
Good luck with that. We have more fans on this message board than they have at games. Their fans won't even know what their record is.
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It will be funny when Frank yells at the gamecocks color guy about where the hell the fans are, and they will not care.
At USC, this might just get him a raise!
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Get angry at Frank, just like the those who get angry at the sun for killing your goats.
what is wrong with you lately?
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So did frank ever make it back to tell the team or just send a text.
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So did frank ever make it back to tell the team or just send a text.
Team meeting was at 7 or so tonight
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So did frank ever make it back to tell the team or just send a text.
Team meeting was at 7 or so tonight
frank isn't in manhattan
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So did frank ever make it back to tell the team or just send a text.
Hope Bill Walker flies back to Manhattan and gets into the locker room in just enough time to throw a chair at Frank.
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So did frank ever make it back to tell the team or just send a text.
Hope Bill Walker flies back to Manhattan and gets into the locker room in just enough time to throw a chair at Frank.
:lol:
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So did frank ever make it back to tell the team or just send a text.
Team meeting was at 7 or so tonight
frank isn't in manhattan
What a male genitals.
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i look forward to reading USC message boards...and knowing exactly what they are going through. Bitching about early season failures, running off players, F Bombs...and probably winning. But i will enjoy it.
Good luck with that. We have more fans on this message board than they have at games. Their fans won't even know what their record is.
Not really... 2011 Attendance numbers:
24. Kansas State, average attendance: 12,652
41. South Carolina, average attendance: 10,427
Not eye popping numbers but not bad either, especially for the third most popular sport...
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c/2011_NCAA_mens_basketball_attendance.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c
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i look forward to reading USC message boards...and knowing exactly what they are going through. Bitching about early season failures, running off players, F Bombs...and probably winning. But i will enjoy it.
Good luck with that. We have more fans on this message board than they have at games. Their fans won't even know what their record is.
Not really... 2011 Attendance numbers:
24. Kansas State, average attendance: 12,652
41. South Carolina, average attendance: 10,427
Not eye popping numbers but not bad either, especially for the third most popular sport...
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c/2011_NCAA_mens_basketball_attendance.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c
I will punch you in the taint.
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i look forward to reading USC message boards...and knowing exactly what they are going through. Bitching about early season failures, running off players, F Bombs...and probably winning. But i will enjoy it.
Good luck with that. We have more fans on this message board than they have at games. Their fans won't even know what their record is.
Not really... 2011 Attendance numbers:
24. Kansas State, average attendance: 12,652
41. South Carolina, average attendance: 10,427
Not eye popping numbers but not bad either, especially for the third most popular sport...
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c/2011_NCAA_mens_basketball_attendance.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c
welcome! :emawkid: (ftp://:emawkid:)
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i look forward to reading USC message boards...and knowing exactly what they are going through. Bitching about early season failures, running off players, F Bombs...and probably winning. But i will enjoy it.
Good luck with that. We have more fans on this message board than they have at games. Their fans won't even know what their record is.
Not really... 2011 Attendance numbers:
24. Kansas State, average attendance: 12,652
41. South Carolina, average attendance: 10,427
Not eye popping numbers but not bad either, especially for the third most popular sport...
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c/2011_NCAA_mens_basketball_attendance.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c
I will punch you in the taint.
Classy, thanks for that.
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i look forward to reading USC message boards...and knowing exactly what they are going through. Bitching about early season failures, running off players, F Bombs...and probably winning. But i will enjoy it.
Good luck with that. We have more fans on this message board than they have at games. Their fans won't even know what their record is.
Not really... 2011 Attendance numbers:
24. Kansas State, average attendance: 12,652
41. South Carolina, average attendance: 10,427
Not eye popping numbers but not bad either, especially for the third most popular sport...
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c/2011_NCAA_mens_basketball_attendance.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c
I will punch you in the taint.
Classy, thanks for that.
I will rough ridin' kill your family. (maybe
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All he wanted was $2 million.
Good thing to remember when we piss away the next 10 years of basketball and hire some mid major scrub for the same dollar amount.
My God, this effing administration is incompetent.
I say we burn the whole mother Fu*king town of Manhattan to the ground...we need a cleansing!
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Nope.
Fans had already expressed their frustration with Horn by not showing up. Average paid attendance this season was 8,900 people in the 18,000-seat Colonial Life Arena. It was down about 1,500 fans with most games seeing less than half of the announced number actually in the stands.
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i look forward to reading USC message boards...and knowing exactly what they are going through. Bitching about early season failures, running off players, F Bombs...and probably winning. But i will enjoy it.
Good luck with that. We have more fans on this message board than they have at games. Their fans won't even know what their record is.
Not really... 2011 Attendance numbers:
24. Kansas State, average attendance: 12,652
41. South Carolina, average attendance: 10,427
Not eye popping numbers but not bad either, especially for the third most popular sport...
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c/2011_NCAA_mens_basketball_attendance.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c
I will punch you in the taint.
Classy, thanks for that.
I will rough ridin' kill your family. (maybe
Been done before, can be done again.
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I can tell I'm going to like it here.
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i look forward to reading USC message boards...and knowing exactly what they are going through. Bitching about early season failures, running off players, F Bombs...and probably winning. But i will enjoy it.
Good luck with that. We have more fans on this message board than they have at games. Their fans won't even know what their record is.
Not really... 2011 Attendance numbers:
24. Kansas State, average attendance: 12,652
41. South Carolina, average attendance: 10,427
Not eye popping numbers but not bad either, especially for the third most popular sport...
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c/2011_NCAA_mens_basketball_attendance.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=bdf2030046a3609298bddcc110a6426c
horse crap on those numbers. NO WAY to USC have that many fans coming in. I've watched them when possible b/c my dad is a USC alum.
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Tried talking to players after their meeting at Bramlage tonight to no avail. They laughed, jumped in cars and flashed the peace sign.
EVERYONE IS TRANSFERRING! :runaway:
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I can tell I'm going to like it here.
We get Wil Myers. You get Frank. Not fair.
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Tried talking to players after their meeting at Bramlage tonight to no avail. They laughed, jumped in cars and flashed the peace sign.
EVERYONE IS TRANSFERRING! :runaway:
he's staying!!!!!!!!!!! :runaway:
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Tried talking to players after their meeting at Bramlage tonight to no avail. They laughed, jumped in cars and flashed the peace sign.
EVERYONE IS TRANSFERRING! :runaway:
:confused:
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Tried talking to players after their meeting at Bramlage tonight to no avail. They laughed, jumped in cars and flashed the peace sign.
EVERYONE IS TRANSFERRING! :runaway:
he's staying!!!!!!!!!!! :runaway:
No, that's just the standard response by the players when that dorkstore Kellis tries to ask them a question.
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Tried talking to players after their meeting at Bramlage tonight to no avail. They laughed, jumped in cars and flashed the peace sign.
EVERYONE IS TRANSFERRING! :runaway:
Well if they're mad that Jamar didn't play they should have won the game for him. eff THEM TOO!!
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I can tell I'm going to like it here.
I can tell you are a homosexual racist.
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I can tell I'm going to like it here.
I can tell you are a homosexual racist.
Wow, really?
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In this case they are the realist, those of us working our jobs don't have the external pressures and scrutiny that can exacerbate personality conflicts.
We also aren't making millions, and running away from a shitty boss will not have the potential to cost us several more millions, as it could with Frank.
Him running away from a shitty boss that has the potential to cost him several more million dollars tells me something much different than it tells you.
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Tried talking to players after their meeting at Bramlage tonight to no avail. They laughed, jumped in cars and flashed the peace sign.
EVERYONE IS TRANSFERRING! :runaway:
:confused:
What is confusing about this?
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I can tell I'm going to like it here.
I can tell you are a homosexual racist.
Wow, really?
Winters I think you meant homophobic.
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I can tell I'm going to like it here.
I can tell you are a homosexual racist.
Wow, really?
I am that good, yes.
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I can tell I'm going to like it here.
I can tell you are a homosexual racist.
Wow, really?
Winters I think you meant homophobic.
Maybe.
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I can tell I'm going to like it here.
I can tell you are a homosexual racist.
Wow, really?
Winters I think you meant homophobic.
Well he's right. Everyone from the South is racist and homophobic. Spot on.
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Tried talking to players after their meeting at Bramlage tonight to no avail. They laughed, jumped in cars and flashed the peace sign.
EVERYONE IS TRANSFERRING! :runaway:
:confused:
What is confusing about this?
I want to know why they were laughing? I don't like being an outsider! :shakesfist:
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I can tell I'm going to like it here.
I can tell you are a homosexual racist.
Wow, really?
Winters I think you meant homophobic.
Well he's right. Everyone from the South is racist and homophobic. Spot on.
Our recent interactions with Arkansas and So Miss fans have confirmed your assessment.
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They're laughing because they're high, duh.
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I can tell I'm going to like it here.
I can tell you are a homosexual racist.
Wow, really?
Winters I think you meant homophobic.
Well he's right. Everyone from the South is racist and homophobic. Spot on.
Our recent interactions with Arkansas and So Miss fans have confirmed your assessment.
this is the first fanbase to admit it though. think it's better to have it out in the open like that, or keep it "hidden" like in mississippi?
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I am most interested to see just how fast we become a complete shitshow of a bball program.
Next year? The year after?
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Tried talking to players after their meeting at Bramlage tonight to no avail. They laughed, jumped in cars and flashed the peace sign.
EVERYONE IS TRANSFERRING! :runaway:
:confused:
What is confusing about this?
I want to know why they were laughing? I don't like being an outsider! :shakesfist:
Gotcha
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I am most interested to see just how fast we become a complete shitshow of a bball program.
Next year? The year after?
next year, no doubt
our program is about to be in the worst shape its ever been.
yes think about that for a second, worse than asbury, worse than wooly
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I can tell I'm going to like it here.
I can tell you are a homosexual racist.
Wow, really?
Winters I think you meant homophobic.
Well he's right. Everyone from the South is racist and homophobic. Spot on.
Are you guys going to ask Frank for his green card? Racist shrew.
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atleast frank will be soaking up the rays in socal....oh wait he's going to south carolina :lol:
Only about 100 miles from Hilton Head. Love that place........
Myrtle Beach....South Carolina is a beautiful state
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Is there a K-State forum out there that isn't reminiscent Shaggybevo? I'm not real impressed with the welcome I've got here.
So far I've had a person threaten to kick me in my taint and then kill my family (I think that was the order they wanted to do it) and another called me a homophobic racist...very hospitable K-State. :blank:
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Is there a K-State forum out there that isn't reminiscent Shaggybevo? I'm not real impressed with the welcome I've got here.
So far I've had a person threaten to kick me in my taint and then kill my family (I think that was the order they wanted to do it) and another called me a homophobic racist...very hospitable K-State. :blank:
Stop being racist.
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Is there a K-State forum out there that isn't reminiscent Shaggybevo? I'm not real impressed with the welcome I've got here.
So far I've had a person threaten to kick me in my taint and then kill my family (I think that was the order they wanted to do it) and another called me a homophobic racist...very hospitable K-State. :blank:
http://kansasstate.scout.com/
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Is there a K-State forum out there that isn't reminiscent Shaggybevo? I'm not real impressed with the welcome I've got here.
So far I've had a person threaten to kick me in my taint and then kill my family (I think that was the order they wanted to do it) and another called me a homophobic racist...very hospitable K-State. :blank:
I apologize for these bad people. Welcome. Now GTFO.
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Is there a K-State forum out there that isn't reminiscent Shaggybevo? I'm not real impressed with the welcome I've got here.
So far I've had a person threaten to kick me in my taint and then kill my family (I think that was the order they wanted to do it) and another called me a homophobic racist...very hospitable K-State. :blank:
You probably only have a few teeth. Stupid hick.
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Is there a K-State forum out there that isn't reminiscent Shaggybevo? I'm not real impressed with the welcome I've got here.
So far I've had a person threaten to kick me in my taint and then kill my family (I think that was the order they wanted to do it) and another called me a homophobic racist...very hospitable K-State. :blank:
Eat a dick, racist.
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Frank's wife is black. What do you think about your new coach now racist? :opcat: :opcat:
Going to throw bricks through his window?
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Is there a K-State forum out there that isn't reminiscent Shaggybevo? I'm not real impressed with the welcome I've got here.
So far I've had a person threaten to kick me in my taint and then kill my family (I think that was the order they wanted to do it) and another called me a homophobic racist...very hospitable K-State. :blank:
Seriously, go eff yourself.
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Just like Shaggybevo only lacking in the funny department. Keep it coming kids...
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mod's, please change this racist name to "dirty male genitals".
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Congrats USC Alum. Good luck with starting the basketball program and whatnot
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Just like Shaggybevo only lacking in the funny department. Keep it coming kids...
What's not funny is you showing up over here after you stole our bball coach. You're a rough ridin' dick!
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Just like Shaggybevo only lacking in the funny department. Keep it coming kids...
We won the civil war, dumbass.
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Is there a K-State forum out there that isn't reminiscent Shaggybevo? I'm not real impressed with the welcome I've got here.
So far I've had a person threaten to kick me in my taint and then kill my family (I think that was the order they wanted to do it) and another called me a homophobic racist...very hospitable K-State. :blank:
Your homophobia and racism should be the least of your concerns if you are actually stupid enough to expect hospitality on a K-State message board after our coach bolted because the dick measuring contest between our AD and him ended up awash.
Are you over here to discuss the hire because nobody at your school gives two shits about basketball?
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Still can't believe Frank is going to coach the South Carolina Pirates. Love their midfield football logo and all, but to be honest, never knew they had a basketball program. :dunno:
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I didn't join to rub anything in. Please show me where I've gloated.
I PCS'd to Riley back in August and moved in not far from the football stadium so, being able to hear games from my front lawn, I've naturally kept up with K-State and I enjoy rooting for you guys. USC hiring Martin just made me join today.
Anyhow keep it coming, I can take a little ribbing.
So you're local now? How long and who are you with @ Filey?
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:curse: I CARE ABOUT KSU HOOPS :curse:
eff you john currie for not
This
ProTip:
Frank doesn't care about KSU hoops either.
Should he?
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I didn't join to rub anything in. Please show me where I've gloated.
I PCS'd to Riley back in August and moved in not far from the football stadium so, being able to hear games from my front lawn, I've naturally kept up with K-State and I enjoy rooting for you guys. USC hiring Martin just made me join today.
Anyhow keep it coming, I can take a little ribbing.
I rough ridin' hate you.
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:curse: I CARE ABOUT KSU HOOPS :curse:
eff you john currie for not
This
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Frank doesn't care about KSU hoops either.
Should he?
no, MiR, he shouldn't care about the hoops program of the school he coaches at :flush:
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I think I might be done with this school. Hate to be overly dramatic but there it is. I don't even know if oscar could bring a flicker of hope back to me. Would a sweet 16 run next year change things? Maybe, probably. All I know is that I'm tired. Very, very tired... Nothing really makes sense to me. Tired.
This is how I feel right now too. I never even really liked bball much before Frank and Huggs. I can't believe this happened.
I'm trying hard to fight this feeling too
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In this case they are the realist, those of us working our jobs don't have the external pressures and scrutiny that can exacerbate personality conflicts.
We also aren't making millions, and running away from a shitty boss will not have the potential to cost us several more millions, as it could with Frank.
Him running away from a shitty boss that has the potential to cost him several more million dollars tells me something much different than it tells you.
obviously
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having lived in Charleston for several years, I can say this,the people there are nice as long as you aren't black..hell didn't they just remove the Confederate flag from the state house in Columbia not to long ago???
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:curse: I CARE ABOUT KSU HOOPS :curse:
eff you john currie for not
This
ProTip:
Frank doesn't care about KSU hoops either.
Should he?
no, MiR, he shouldn't care about the hoops program of the school he coaches at :flush:
Anyone with any semblance of sense would read that like "should he care like we care?" You on the other hand are a rough ridin' moron that lacks common sense.
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One of the worst parts of all is that, while I've never been to Columbia, I can almost guarantee it's the same city as Baton Rouge. Just exactly the same....except without LSU football to brag about. And trust me friends, Baton Rouge=Topeka Without All The Excitement.
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Nope.
Fans had already expressed their frustration with Horn by not showing up. Average paid attendance this season was 8,900 people in the 18,000-seat Colonial Life Arena. It was down about 1,500 fans with most games seeing less than half of the announced number actually in the stands.
pathetic
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I would imagine this will play out about like this week's episode of The Good Wife.
Recap: Alicia (Frank) must once again face off against Louis Canning in court, but her recent financial situations cause her to think about his (Michael J. Fox aka South Carolina's) tempting job offer and leaving the firm.
Alicia's boss (BelvisNoland....or John Currie) reprimands her for requesting a raise when the firm gave her the chance to practice law in the first place.
Contentious partners' meeting concludes when potentially anorexic boss (Schulz) announces that Alicia (Frank) will get the raise no matter what everyone else wants.
Louis Canning (SoCarolina) tells Alicia (Frank) he feels used since his offer allowed Alicia (Frank) to leverage a better deal from her current firm (KSUCats).
I call it: The Good Coach
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looks like I imagined this all wrong
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having lived in Charleston for several years, I can say this,the people there are nice as long as you aren't black..hell didn't they just remove the Confederate flag from the state house in Columbia not to long ago???
I don't think so. As far as I know, it's still flying. They don't still fly it higher than the US flag, though, iirc.
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Nope.
Fans had already expressed their frustration with Horn by not showing up. Average paid attendance this season was 8,900 people in the 18,000-seat Colonial Life Arena. It was down about 1,500 fans with most games seeing less than half of the announced number actually in the stands.
pathetic
Guy from USC on 810 said today "In these last four or five games, Ray Charles could've done a headcount on the people in the crowd. It was terrible."
I can't believe our fuckface AD just let a guy leave for a school that just won fewer games in basketball than they did in football.
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Nope.
Fans had already expressed their frustration with Horn by not showing up. Average paid attendance this season was 8,900 people in the 18,000-seat Colonial Life Arena. It was down about 1,500 fans with most games seeing less than half of the announced number actually in the stands.
pathetic
:emawkid: way to go Frank. Can't wait to see you bitch about students sleeping in.
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One of the worst parts of all is that, while I've never been to Columbia, I can almost guarantee it's the same city as Baton Rouge. Just exactly the same....except without LSU football to brag about. And trust me friends, Baton Rouge=Topeka Without All The Excitement.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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having lived in Charleston for several years, I can say this,the people there are nice as long as you aren't black..hell didn't they just remove the Confederate flag from the state house in Columbia not to long ago???
I don't think so. As far as I know, it's still flying. They don't still fly it higher than the US flag, though, iirc.
No...it no longer flies above the Statehouse, and to my knowledge it never flew above the American Flag.
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It does still fly. Saw it today when I was there. Disgusting.
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why do they call their school university of southern california :dunno: I find this to be confusing
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It does still fly. Saw it today when I was there. Disgusting.
The Confederate flag hasn't flown above the Statehouse in more than a decade.
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I snapped this picture today:
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Can't wait to see the fans faces when Frank trots out his brown children. if you've ever been to sc, you'd understand that they use the "n" word as a way to identify a black person. for instance: "which person are you talking about?" answer" "the n....r" he has no rough ridin' idea what he has done to eff himself. eff you frank.
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It does still fly. Saw it today when I was there. Disgusting.
The Confederate flag hasn't flown above the Statehouse in more than a decade.
A whole decade. :lol:
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I snapped this picture today:
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I see a red x, but it still works.
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It does still fly. Saw it today when I was there. Disgusting.
The Confederate flag hasn't flown above the Statehouse in more than a decade.
That's still rough ridin' TERRIBLE!
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I snapped this picture today:
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:facepalm:
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Confederate flag above the state house confirmed today by me and about 20 other dentists that were giving a presentation about the awful tooth rot in South Carolina.
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Is Strom Thurmond still racisting up your poor garbage state?
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One of the worst parts of all is that, while I've never been to Columbia, I can almost guarantee it's the same city as Baton Rouge. Just exactly the same....except without LSU football to brag about. And trust me friends, Baton Rouge=Topeka Without All The Excitement.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
People also call Baton Rouge "The City That Never Wakes." Guarantee Columbia is the same city. Same exact rough ridin' city. Same ~750,000 sprawling metro population with tons of traffic yet not all that much cool stuff to do...same terrible schools...same blatant segregation (brought about by White Flight)...same boring capital city downtown full of uninspired, cement, square-looking government buildings from the 1960s that shut down at 5 pm...same terrible nightlife that you think would be great because "hey, it's an SEC town!" but really it's just complete crap...
And we just got jilted for it. Because our AD is a dumbfuck.
Frank, they probably don't even have anything comparable to The Chef. I know these towns.
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I snapped this picture today:
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:facepalm:
I would be embarrassed too.
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It does still fly. Saw it today when I was there. Disgusting.
The Confederate flag hasn't flown above the Statehouse in more than a decade.
Steve Spurrier was still bitching about the flag as recently as 2007, so if you took it down, it was less than 5 years ago.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2837735 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2837735)
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having lived in Charleston for several years, I can say this,the people there are nice as long as you aren't black..hell didn't they just remove the Confederate flag from the state house in Columbia not to long ago???
I don't think so. As far as I know, it's still flying. They don't still fly it higher than the US flag, though, iirc.
No...it no longer flies above the Statehouse.
Just beside it.
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It does still fly. Saw it today when I was there. Disgusting.
The Confederate flag hasn't flown above the Statehouse in more than a decade.
They moved it to eye level? More visibility?
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The silver lining in all of this is that maybe now I can finally upgrade my seats! I've been stuck near the rafters ever since I bought season tickets in 2006. Really pisses me off I didn't buy tickets in the last year or two of Wooly and get in the front 5 rows. :bang:
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One of the worst parts of all is that, while I've never been to Columbia, I can almost guarantee it's the same city as Baton Rouge. Just exactly the same....except without LSU football to brag about. And trust me friends, Baton Rouge=Topeka Without All The Excitement.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
People also call it "The City That Never Wakes." Guarantee Columbia is the same city. Same exact rough ridin' city. Same ~750,000 sprawling metro population with tons of traffic yet not all that much cool stuff to do...same terrible schools...same blatant segregation (brought about by White Flight)...same boring capital city downtown full of uninspired, cement, square-looking government buildings from the 1960s that shut down at 5 pm...same terrible nightlife that you think would be great because "hey, it's an SEC town!" but really it's just complete crap...
And we just got jilted for it. Because our AD is a dumbfuck.
Frank, they probably don't even have anything comparable to The Chef. I know these towns.
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Wait...do you guys really think that Columbia is a downgrade from Manhattan? Be honest.
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having lived in Charleston for several years, I can say this,the people there are nice as long as you aren't black..hell didn't they just remove the Confederate flag from the state house in Columbia not to long ago???
There's a statue out front that has an inscription: "ERECTED BY THE WOMEN OF SOUTH CAROLINA" :lol:
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One of the worst parts of all is that, while I've never been to Columbia, I can almost guarantee it's the same city as Baton Rouge. Just exactly the same....except without LSU football to brag about. And trust me friends, Baton Rouge=Topeka Without All The Excitement.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
People also call it "The City That Never Wakes." Guarantee Columbia is the same city. Same exact rough ridin' city. Same ~750,000 sprawling metro population with tons of traffic yet not all that much cool stuff to do...same terrible schools...same blatant segregation (brought about by White Flight)...same boring capital city downtown full of uninspired, cement, square-looking government buildings from the 1960s that shut down at 5 pm...same terrible nightlife that you think would be great because "hey, it's an SEC town!" but really it's just complete crap...
And we just got jilted for it. Because our AD is a dumbfuck.
Frank, they probably don't even have anything comparable to The Chef. I know these towns.
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Wait...do you guys really think that Columbia is a downgrade from Manhattan? Be honest.
Are you aware that Frank has a black wife?
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It does still fly. Saw it today when I was there. Disgusting.
The Confederate flag hasn't flown above the Statehouse in more than a decade.
Steve Spurrier was still bitching about the flag as recently as 2007, so if you took it down, it was less than 5 years ago.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2837735 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2837735)
"The Confederate flag shouldn't fly at the Statehouse, South Carolina football coach Steve Spurrier said Saturday after the Gamecocks' spring game."
The flag still flies as part of a Civil War memorial on the Statehouse grounds, just not above it as many of you said.
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It does still fly. Saw it today when I was there. Disgusting.
The Confederate flag hasn't flown above the Statehouse in more than a decade.
Steve Spurrier was still bitching about the flag as recently as 2007, so if you took it down, it was less than 5 years ago.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2837735 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2837735)
"The Confederate flag shouldn't fly at the Statehouse, South Carolina football coach Steve Spurrier said Saturday after the Gamecocks' spring game."
The flag still flies as part of a Civil War memorial on the Statehouse grounds, just not above it as many of you said.
Oh, that's totally understandable, then. :lol:
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One of the worst parts of all is that, while I've never been to Columbia, I can almost guarantee it's the same city as Baton Rouge. Just exactly the same....except without LSU football to brag about. And trust me friends, Baton Rouge=Topeka Without All The Excitement.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
People also call it "The City That Never Wakes." Guarantee Columbia is the same city. Same exact rough ridin' city. Same ~750,000 sprawling metro population with tons of traffic yet not all that much cool stuff to do...same terrible schools...same blatant segregation (brought about by White Flight)...same boring capital city downtown full of uninspired, cement, square-looking government buildings from the 1960s that shut down at 5 pm...same terrible nightlife that you think would be great because "hey, it's an SEC town!" but really it's just complete crap...
And we just got jilted for it. Because our AD is a dumbfuck.
Frank, they probably don't even have anything comparable to The Chef. I know these towns.
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Wait...do you guys really think that Columbia is a downgrade from Manhattan? Be honest.
Are you aware that Frank has a black wife?
Yes, I saw it on an ESPN special last year. Why is that relevant to anything?
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One of the worst parts of all is that, while I've never been to Columbia, I can almost guarantee it's the same city as Baton Rouge. Just exactly the same....except without LSU football to brag about. And trust me friends, Baton Rouge=Topeka Without All The Excitement.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
People also call it "The City That Never Wakes." Guarantee Columbia is the same city. Same exact rough ridin' city. Same ~750,000 sprawling metro population with tons of traffic yet not all that much cool stuff to do...same terrible schools...same blatant segregation (brought about by White Flight)...same boring capital city downtown full of uninspired, cement, square-looking government buildings from the 1960s that shut down at 5 pm...same terrible nightlife that you think would be great because "hey, it's an SEC town!" but really it's just complete crap...
And we just got jilted for it. Because our AD is a dumbfuck.
Frank, they probably don't even have anything comparable to The Chef. I know these towns.
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Wait...do you guys really think that Columbia is a downgrade from Manhattan? Be honest.
Are you aware that Frank has a black wife?
Yes, I saw it on an ESPN special last year. Why is that relevant to anything?
That was racist.
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One of the worst parts of all is that, while I've never been to Columbia, I can almost guarantee it's the same city as Baton Rouge. Just exactly the same....except without LSU football to brag about. And trust me friends, Baton Rouge=Topeka Without All The Excitement.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
People also call it "The City That Never Wakes." Guarantee Columbia is the same city. Same exact rough ridin' city. Same ~750,000 sprawling metro population with tons of traffic yet not all that much cool stuff to do...same terrible schools...same blatant segregation (brought about by White Flight)...same boring capital city downtown full of uninspired, cement, square-looking government buildings from the 1960s that shut down at 5 pm...same terrible nightlife that you think would be great because "hey, it's an SEC town!" but really it's just complete crap...
And we just got jilted for it. Because our AD is a dumbfuck.
Frank, they probably don't even have anything comparable to The Chef. I know these towns.
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Wait...do you guys really think that Columbia is a downgrade from Manhattan? Be honest.
Are you aware that Frank has a black wife?
Yes, I saw it on an ESPN special last year. Why is that relevant to anything?
Because there's a confederate flag at your state house
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It does still fly. Saw it today when I was there. Disgusting.
The Confederate flag hasn't flown above the Statehouse in more than a decade.
Steve Spurrier was still bitching about the flag as recently as 2007, so if you took it down, it was less than 5 years ago.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2837735 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2837735)
"The Confederate flag shouldn't fly at the Statehouse, South Carolina football coach Steve Spurrier said Saturday after the Gamecocks' spring game."
The flag still flies as part of a Civil War memorial on the Statehouse grounds, just not above it as many of you said.
Oh, that's totally understandable, then. :lol:
I'm not defending it, just stating the facts. You won't get a big fight out of me in support of that flag. I'm a Midwesterner originally...but it is what it is...
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I don't see how anyone can claim South Carolina isn't racist when Borat has them on tape being racist and it was proven in court that they were all racist
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One of the worst parts of all is that, while I've never been to Columbia, I can almost guarantee it's the same city as Baton Rouge. Just exactly the same....except without LSU football to brag about. And trust me friends, Baton Rouge=Topeka Without All The Excitement.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
People also call it "The City That Never Wakes." Guarantee Columbia is the same city. Same exact rough ridin' city. Same ~750,000 sprawling metro population with tons of traffic yet not all that much cool stuff to do...same terrible schools...same blatant segregation (brought about by White Flight)...same boring capital city downtown full of uninspired, cement, square-looking government buildings from the 1960s that shut down at 5 pm...same terrible nightlife that you think would be great because "hey, it's an SEC town!" but really it's just complete crap...
And we just got jilted for it. Because our AD is a dumbfuck.
Frank, they probably don't even have anything comparable to The Chef. I know these towns.
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Wait...do you guys really think that Columbia is a downgrade from Manhattan? Be honest.
Are you aware that Frank has a black wife?
Yes, I saw it on an ESPN special last year. Why is that relevant to anything?
Because there's a confederate flag at your state house
That's one impressive argument you've got their champ.
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it doesn't need anymore argument past that.
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it's relevant because you're racist, you Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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USC Alum - You've ruined this entire rough ridin' thread. Come back in a few days dick when just seeing your schools rough ridin' logo as your Avatar doesn't mae everyone want to :goodbyecruelworld: :barf: :chainsaw: :curse: :opcat: :bait:
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Boy, Frank looks really stupid now for not chasing the Nebraska job.
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One of the worst parts of all is that, while I've never been to Columbia, I can almost guarantee it's the same city as Baton Rouge. Just exactly the same....except without LSU football to brag about. And trust me friends, Baton Rouge=Topeka Without All The Excitement.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
People also call it "The City That Never Wakes." Guarantee Columbia is the same city. Same exact rough ridin' city. Same ~750,000 sprawling metro population with tons of traffic yet not all that much cool stuff to do...same terrible schools...same blatant segregation (brought about by White Flight)...same boring capital city downtown full of uninspired, cement, square-looking government buildings from the 1960s that shut down at 5 pm...same terrible nightlife that you think would be great because "hey, it's an SEC town!" but really it's just complete crap...
And we just got jilted for it. Because our AD is a dumbfuck.
Frank, they probably don't even have anything comparable to The Chef. I know these towns.
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Wait...do you guys really think that Columbia is a downgrade from Manhattan? Be honest.
Are you aware that Frank has a black wife?
Yes, I saw it on an ESPN special last year. Why is that relevant to anything?
Because there's a confederate flag at your state house
That's one impressive argument you've got their champ.
If anybody is the champ, it has to be you guys. Didn't you guys win back to back NIT championships?
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Many of you have very disturbing opinions of the South and from them I can tell that few of you have lived there for any real amount of time. I'd suggest that you guys visit but I'd rather you not with the kinds of attitudes you have.
Really though, no one can see the problems with the arguments you've been making?...
...There have been racists in the South therefore all Southerners must be racist....There is a Confederate flag on Government property in SC therefore all people from that State are racist and hate interracial marriage.
Who's actually prejudiced here? Wait I know, I know...its me.
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Because there's a confederate flag at your state house
That's one impressive argument you've got their champ.
there's a confederate flag at your state house
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Frank didn't even meet with team in person, they were informed by Underwood? ..... is that seriously true?
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how many years did you racist fucks continue to vote Strom Thurmond into the gov'ment?
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Your state just legalized interracial marriage in 1996.
I have lived in the South, as I mentioned, for three years. Columbia is undoubtedly the same as Baton Rouge (except without Mardi Gras and LSU football), so therefore it sucks super hard. Sorry.
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Frank didn't even meet with team in person, they were informed by Underwood? ..... is that seriously true?
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mywillieispurple? :confused: (ftp://:confused:) Completely Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) name.
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guys, let's make this happen.
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I'm close to being done here.
You know...I'd heard from some NU fans that K-State had some pretty trashy fans and when I first moved to Manhattan I didn't believe it. This is the first time I've really engaged K-State fans in a way that could possibly be concieved as less than positive and your response has been almost uniformally profane, immature and disrespectful.
I know exactly what those Husker fans mean now.
This is really the face you guys present to fans of other schools? :facepalm:
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kevin kietzman ? @kkwhb Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
No coaches at KSU team meeting. John Currie called it for players only. No word from Frank to staff yet either.
jfc. seriously frank?
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I'm close to being done here.
You know...I'd heard from some NU fans that K-State had some pretty trashy fans and when I first moved to Manhattan I didn't believe it. This is the first time I've really engaged K-State fans in a way that could possibly be concieved as less than positive and your response has been almost uniformally profane, immature and disrespectful.
I know exactly what those Husker fans mean now.
This is really the face you guys present to fans of other schools? :facepalm:
lol "heard from some NU fans"
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frank had 958 tweets while head coach at kansas state.
1 - the number of times he mentioned john currie
3 - the number of times he used the word loyalty*
*just watched gladiator. wow!!! it gets me everytime. maximus stood 4 honor, honesty and loyalty. that's what it's all about.
*2 words that I was raised on, Loyalty & honesty. Those r the qualities that this great country stood 4. We all need 2get back 2 those things
*Loyalty is a 2 way street. Brad, Matt,Lamont and the rest of our staff has been loyal now it was time 4 me and KState 2 b loyal 2 them
33 - the number of times he's been proud.
124 - number of times he used the word 'great'
20 - number of times he used 'gr8'
1 - times frank called kirk schulz 'great'*
*u need a great boss 2 be a successful employee. and i have a great one.
0 - times frank called john currie 'great'
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USC Alum:
Just how much do you hate the movie Glory? Is it more than you love Gods and Generals?
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Let's put away our prejudices and just give a salute to Frank's power move, you guys.
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kevin kietzman ? @kkwhb Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
No coaches at KSU team meeting. John Currie called it for players only. No word from Frank to staff yet either.
jfc. seriously frank?
Doesn't make any sense.
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I'm close to being done here.
You know...I'd heard from some NU fans that K-State had some pretty trashy fans and when I first moved to Manhattan I didn't believe it. This is the first time I've really engaged K-State fans in a way that could possibly be concieved as less than positive and your response has been almost uniformally profane, immature and disrespectful.
I know exactly what those Husker fans mean now.
This is really the face you guys present to fans of other schools? :facepalm:
If we stole Spurrier from you, and I brought my happy ass over to your board, how would you react?
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Many of you have very disturbing opinions of the South and from them I can tell that few of you have lived there for any real amount of time. I'd suggest that you guys visit but I'd rather you not with the kinds of attitudes you have.
Wrong. I've lived in Eastern Tennessee, Atlanta Georgia, and Eastern Missouri for many years. I've been all over that disturbing pile they call Dixie, and I can tell you...it's full of NOTHING but rapist hillbillies and racist yokels. Often they are one in the same.
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I'm close to being done here.
You know...I'd heard from some NU fans that K-State had some pretty trashy fans and when I first moved to Manhattan I didn't believe it. This is the first time I've really engaged K-State fans in a way that could possibly be concieved as less than positive and your response has been almost uniformally profane, immature and disrespectful.
I know exactly what those Husker fans mean now.
This is really the face you guys present to fans of other schools? :facepalm:
:bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
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I'm close to being done here.
You know...I'd heard from some NU fans that K-State had some pretty trashy fans and when I first moved to Manhattan I didn't believe it. This is the first time I've really engaged K-State fans in a way that could possibly be concieved as less than positive and your response has been almost uniformally profane, immature and disrespectful.
I know exactly what those Husker fans mean now.
This is really the face you guys present to fans of other schools? :facepalm:
Stop being such a whiny bitch.
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kevin kietzman ? @kkwhb Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
No coaches at KSU team meeting. John Currie called it for players only. No word from Frank to staff yet either.
jfc. seriously frank?
Does that surprise you? It shouldn't.
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I'm close to being done here.
You know...I'd heard from some NU fans that K-State had some pretty trashy fans and when I first moved to Manhattan I didn't believe it. This is the first time I've really engaged K-State fans in a way that could possibly be concieved as less than positive and your response has been almost uniformally profane, immature and disrespectful.
I know exactly what those Husker fans mean now.
This is really the face you guys present to fans of other schools? :facepalm:
Absolutely.
However if you ever decide to move back we will be hospitable again.
Until then you and Frank can die in a dumpster fire.
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I'm close to being done here.
You know...I'd heard from some NU fans that K-State had some pretty trashy fans and when I first moved to Manhattan I didn't believe it. This is the first time I've really engaged K-State fans in a way that could possibly be concieved as less than positive and your response has been almost uniformally profane, immature and disrespectful.
I know exactly what those Husker fans mean now.
This is really the face you guys present to fans of other schools? :facepalm:
You shouldn't paint all of us with one brush you rough ridin' hypocrite.
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kevin kietzman ? @kkwhb Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
No coaches at KSU team meeting. John Currie called it for players only. No word from Frank to staff yet either.
jfc. seriously frank?
jfc. seriously frank what? Is he supposed to stop Currie from having meetings when he is 1800 miles away? We know the assistants are in Manhattan, if they didn't meet with the players formally it is obviously because that's what Currie wants right now.
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I'm close to being done here.
You know...I'd heard from some NU fans that K-State had some pretty trashy fans and when I first moved to Manhattan I didn't believe it. This is the first time I've really engaged K-State fans in a way that could possibly be concieved as less than positive and your response has been almost uniformally profane, immature and disrespectful.
I know exactly what those Husker fans mean now.
This is really the face you guys present to fans of other schools? :facepalm:
:bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
Lincoln, nebraska only has righteous fun loving fans that accept people from all schools right? They have never been trashy ever. . .
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kevin kietzman ? @kkwhb Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
No coaches at KSU team meeting. John Currie called it for players only. No word from Frank to staff yet either.
jfc. seriously frank?
jfc. seriously frank what? Is he supposed to stop Currie from having meetings when he is 1800 miles away? We know the assistants are in Manhattan, if they didn't meet with the players formally it is obviously because that's what Currie wants right now.
seriously that he hasn't given word to coaches. he hasn't communicated to any of them he's leaving?
jfc, bob huggins told his players face to face.
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I'm close to being done here.
You know...I'd heard from some NU fans that K-State had some pretty trashy fans and when I first moved to Manhattan I didn't believe it. This is the first time I've really engaged K-State fans in a way that could possibly be concieved as less than positive and your response has been almost uniformally profane, immature and disrespectful.
I know exactly what those Husker fans mean now.
This is really the face you guys present to fans of other schools? :facepalm:
pro tip: being a whiny crybaby and recognize when people are rough ridin' with you. You came here, nut up and learn to take a joke.
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guys, let's make this happen.
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He would look good covered in Pearlple body paint
get it? :blindfold:
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I'm close to being done here.
You know...I'd heard from some NU fans that K-State had some pretty trashy fans and when I first moved to Manhattan I didn't believe it. This is the first time I've really engaged K-State fans in a way that could possibly be concieved as less than positive and your response has been almost uniformally profane, immature and disrespectful.
I know exactly what those Husker fans mean now.
This is really the face you guys present to fans of other schools? :facepalm:
Yet you are fine presenting a whiny, hypocritical face as a USC fan?
Frank is going to fit in great.
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kevin kietzman ? @kkwhb Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
No coaches at KSU team meeting. John Currie called it for players only. No word from Frank to staff yet either.
jfc. seriously frank?
jfc. seriously frank what? Is he supposed to stop Currie from having meetings when he is 1800 miles away? We know the assistants are in Manhattan, if they didn't meet with the players formally it is obviously because that's what Currie wants right now.
seriously that he hasn't given word to coaches. he hasn't communicated to any of them he's leaving?
jfc, bob huggins told his players face to face.
I wish Walker was here so he could yell in franks ugly face.
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Just so you guys know, when my dad was in he army he wasn't a whiny cry baby and could take a joke. Just don't want you guys to get the wrong impression about the majority of those serving today.
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guys, let's make this happen.
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He would look good covered in Pearlple body paint
get it? :blindfold:
deep amethyst pearl
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kevin kietzman ? @kkwhb Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
No coaches at KSU team meeting. John Currie called it for players only. No word from Frank to staff yet either.
jfc. seriously frank?
jfc. seriously frank what? Is he supposed to stop Currie from having meetings when he is 1800 miles away? We know the assistants are in Manhattan, if they didn't meet with the players formally it is obviously because that's what Currie wants right now.
seriously that he hasn't given word to coaches. he hasn't communicated to any of them he's leaving?
jfc, bob huggins told his players face to face.
Huggins took the WVU job while being physically located in Manhattan. Frank accepted his job 1800 miles away from Manhattan. He could be taking a flight back to MHK and the back to South Carolina for all we know.
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kevin kietzman ? @kkwhb Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
No coaches at KSU team meeting. John Currie called it for players only. No word from Frank to staff yet either.
jfc. seriously frank?
jfc. seriously frank what? Is he supposed to stop Currie from having meetings when he is 1800 miles away? We know the assistants are in Manhattan, if they didn't meet with the players formally it is obviously because that's what Currie wants right now.
seriously that he hasn't given word to coaches. he hasn't communicated to any of them he's leaving?
jfc, bob huggins told his players face to face.
Bob Huggins understands loyalty. Frank is loyal to nobody. He only demands that everyone be loyal to him in return.
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kevin kietzman ? @kkwhb Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
No coaches at KSU team meeting. John Currie called it for players only. No word from Frank to staff yet either.
jfc. seriously frank?
jfc. seriously frank what? Is he supposed to stop Currie from having meetings when he is 1800 miles away? We know the assistants are in Manhattan, if they didn't meet with the players formally it is obviously because that's what Currie wants right now.
seriously that he hasn't given word to coaches. he hasn't communicated to any of them he's leaving?
jfc, bob huggins told his players face to face.
Huggins took the WVU job while being physically located in Manhattan. Frank accepted his job 1800 miles away from Manhattan. He could be taking a flight back to MHK and the back to South Carolina for all we know.
:dubious:
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Yep, 95+ pages berating your coach for leaving and I'm the whiner here.
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I'm close to being done here.
You know...I'd heard from some NU fans that K-State had some pretty trashy fans and when I first moved to Manhattan I didn't believe it. This is the first time I've really engaged K-State fans in a way that could possibly be concieved as less than positive and your response has been almost uniformally profane, immature and disrespectful.
I know exactly what those Husker fans mean now.
This is really the face you guys present to fans of other schools? :facepalm:
Yes, dumbfuck. What isn't to understand? We like K-State, not other schools (except maybe sister school Duke, and 'lil TSC bro KU), and we sure as eff don't like racist southern trash schools.
For further edification, please see: pig aggie and noose aggie threads.
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kevin kietzman ? @kkwhb Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
No coaches at KSU team meeting. John Currie called it for players only. No word from Frank to staff yet either.
jfc. seriously frank?
jfc. seriously frank what? Is he supposed to stop Currie from having meetings when he is 1800 miles away? We know the assistants are in Manhattan, if they didn't meet with the players formally it is obviously because that's what Currie wants right now.
seriously that he hasn't given word to coaches. he hasn't communicated to any of them he's leaving?
jfc, bob huggins told his players face to face.
Bob Huggins understands loyalty and proximity. Frank is loyal to nobody. He only demands that everyone be loyal to him in return.
FYP
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I'm close to being done here.
You know...I'd heard from some NU fans that K-State had some pretty trashy fans and when I first moved to Manhattan I didn't believe it. This is the first time I've really engaged K-State fans in a way that could possibly be concieved as less than positive and your response has been almost uniformally profane, immature and disrespectful.
I know exactly what those Husker fans mean now.
This is really the face you guys present to fans of other schools? :facepalm:
Aren't you a FTRILEYO?
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Yep, 95+ pages berating your coach for leaving and I'm the whiner here.
False...We were/are berating YOUR coach.
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Frank is loyal to nobody. He only demands that everyone be loyal to him in return.
:thumbs:
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Yep, 95+ pages berating your coach for leaving and I'm the whiner here.
I don't think you read the thread. Add lazy and presumptuous to the list.
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Does anyone think there's a correlation between Frank being on CBS and then accepting a job at a conference with a nice tv deal with CBS?
I mean...
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kevin kietzman ? @kkwhb Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
No coaches at KSU team meeting. John Currie called it for players only. No word from Frank to staff yet either.
jfc. seriously frank?
jfc. seriously frank what? Is he supposed to stop Currie from having meetings when he is 1800 miles away? We know the assistants are in Manhattan, if they didn't meet with the players formally it is obviously because that's what Currie wants right now.
seriously that he hasn't given word to coaches. he hasn't communicated to any of them he's leaving?
jfc, bob huggins told his players face to face.
Huggins took the WVU job while being physically located in Manhattan. Frank accepted his job 1800 miles away from Manhattan. He could be taking a flight back to MHK and the back to South Carolina for all we know.
:dubious:
In the 3 minutes of retrospect I've had I determined all of your assumptions were correct and my assumptions were wrong. Sorry, carry on.
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kevin kietzman ? @kkwhb Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
No coaches at KSU team meeting. John Currie called it for players only. No word from Frank to staff yet either.
jfc. seriously frank?
jfc. seriously frank what? Is he supposed to stop Currie from having meetings when he is 1800 miles away? We know the assistants are in Manhattan, if they didn't meet with the players formally it is obviously because that's what Currie wants right now.
seriously that he hasn't given word to coaches. he hasn't communicated to any of them he's leaving?
jfc, bob huggins told his players face to face.
Huggins took the WVU job while being physically located in Manhattan. Frank accepted his job 1800 miles away from Manhattan. He could be taking a flight back to MHK and the back to South Carolina for all we know.
:dubious:
In the 3 minutes of retrospect I've had I determined all of your assumptions were correct and my assumptions were wrong. Sorry, carry on.
:cheers:
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frank had 958 tweets while head coach at kansas state.
1 - the number of times he mentioned john currie
3 - the number of times he used the word loyalty*
*just watched gladiator. wow!!! it gets me everytime. maximus stood 4 honor, honesty and loyalty. that's what it's all about.
*2 words that I was raised on, Loyalty & honesty. Those r the qualities that this great country stood 4. We all need 2get back 2 those things
*Loyalty is a 2 way street. Brad, Matt,Lamont and the rest of our staff has been loyal now it was time 4 me and KState 2 b loyal 2 them
33 - the number of times he's been proud.
124 - number of times he used the word 'great'
20 - number of times he used 'gr8'
1 - times frank called kirk schulz 'great'*
*u need a great boss 2 be a successful employee. and i have a great one.
0 - times frank called john currie 'great'
i appreciated this.
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KAKE 10 just reported that Frank confirmed that he took the job at South Carolina. Did I miss something?
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KAKE 10 just reported that Frank confirmed that he took the job at South Carolina. Did I miss something?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7739256/frank-martin-leaves-kansas-state-wildcats-become-south-carolina-gamecocks-coach
Kansas State coach Frank Martin has accepted the head coach position with the South Carolina Gamecocks, he confirmed in a text message to ESPN.com.
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Pretty bummed for Hot Rod and gang. Just like Frank to walk out on his kids like his dad walked out on him.
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KAKE 10 just reported that Frank confirmed that he took the job at South Carolina. Did I miss something?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7739256/frank-martin-leaves-kansas-state-wildcats-become-south-carolina-gamecocks-coach
Kansas State coach Frank Martin has accepted the head coach position with the South Carolina Gamecocks, he confirmed in a text message to ESPN.com.
thanks
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Pretty bummed for Hot Rod and gang. Just like Frank to walk out on his kids like his dad walked out on him.
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I feel like somewhere in mhk all the players are together in a scene like the one from "major league" when they found out the owner was going to sell the team after the season was over. And instead of transferring, McGruder stands up on a table in front of the team and says: "Well guys, there's only one thing left to do, WIN THIS WHOLE MOTHER rough ridin' THING...... next season". (Angel jumps into JO's arms and Omari leaves the room) :ksu:
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Confederate flag above the state house confirmed today by me and about 20 other dentists that were giving a presentation about the awful tooth rot in South Carolina.
this was outstanding. just great.
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I respect Frank's decision. Was not a cowardly move.
At best this is a way to amuse ourselves until the real season starts.
:lynchmob:
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At best this is a way to amuse ourselves until the real season starts.
:lynchmob:
I agree completely.
I respect Frank's decision. Was not a cowardly move.
I don't think you could be any more wrong.
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Take this for what it's worth. A source with extremely close ties to players told me that the players wanted Frank gone. They had numerous team discussions that they were willing to go to extreme measures, including transferring, if Frank were to stay. This explains why Frank would leave in such a cloud of dust. This also explains Frank being absent for the team meeting as well as the players being "surprisingly happy". Again, take it for what it's worth, but my source is an EXTREMELY credible source. No news on recruits, but as far as current players go, all should be well.
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Take this for what it's worth. A source with extremely close ties to players told me that the players wanted Frank gone. They had numerous team discussions that they were willing to go to extreme measures, including transferring, if Frank were to stay. This explains why Frank would leave in such a cloud of dust. This also explains Frank being absent for the team meeting as well as the players being "surprisingly happy". Again, take it for what it's worth, but my source is an EXTREMELY credible source. No news on recruits, but as far as current players go, all should be well.
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Well, I think that's completely bullshit. Better than the alternative. Still think it's bullshit.
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Take this for what it's worth. A source with extremely close ties to players told me that the players wanted Frank gone. They had numerous team discussions that they were willing to go to extreme measures, including transferring, if Frank were to stay. This explains why Frank would leave in such a cloud of dust. This also explains Frank being absent for the team meeting as well as the players being "surprisingly happy". Again, take it for what it's worth, but my source is an EXTREMELY credible source. No news on recruits, but as far as current players go, all should be well.
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If that's true tomorrow's presser is going to be classic if players speak.
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is that the same powercat ryan that's on twitter? LMAO
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Take this for what it's worth. A source with extremely close ties to players told me that the players wanted Frank gone. They had numerous team discussions that they were willing to go to extreme measures, including transferring, if Frank were to stay. This explains why Frank would leave in such a cloud of dust. This also explains Frank being absent for the team meeting as well as the players being "surprisingly happy". Again, take it for what it's worth, but my source is an EXTREMELY credible source. No news on recruits, but as far as current players go, all should be well.
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Well, I think that's completely bullshit. Better than the alternative. Still think it's bullshit.
iirc ryan has been right on stuff before. might be currie leaking this stuff too.
I love the soap opera aspect of all this.
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This pretty sums up how I felt all day today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg5cAvZHKZ0
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I respect Frank's decision. Was not a cowardly move.
I don't think you could be any more wrong.
I can't imagine Wooly, Sadler, etc doing this. To go to a shithole based entirely on what he believes? Alpha.
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I respect Frank's decision. Was not a cowardly move.
I don't think you could be any more wrong.
I can't imagine Wooly, Sadler, etc doing this. To go to a shithole based entirely on what he believes? Alpha.
shitholes wouldn't want wooly or sadler
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Take this for what it's worth. A source with extremely close ties to players told me that the players wanted Frank gone. They had numerous team discussions that they were willing to go to extreme measures, including transferring, if Frank were to stay. This explains why Frank would leave in such a cloud of dust. This also explains Frank being absent for the team meeting as well as the players being "surprisingly happy". Again, take it for what it's worth, but my source is an EXTREMELY credible source. No news on recruits, but as far as current players go, all should be well.
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Well, I think that's completely bullshit. Better than the alternative. Still think it's bullshit.
iirc ryan has been right on stuff before. might be currie leaking this stuff too.
I love the soap opera aspect of all this.
:flush: he's also been annoyingly and aggressively wrong too. BTW that doesn't account for the assistants being absent from the meeting as well.
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Take this for what it's worth. A source with extremely close ties to players told me that the players wanted Frank gone. They had numerous team discussions that they were willing to go to extreme measures, including transferring, if Frank were to stay. This explains why Frank would leave in such a cloud of dust. This also explains Frank being absent for the team meeting as well as the players being "surprisingly happy". Again, take it for what it's worth, but my source is an EXTREMELY credible source. No news on recruits, but as far as current players go, all should be well.
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Well, I think that's completely bullshit. Better than the alternative. Still think it's bullshit.
iirc ryan has been right on stuff before. might be currie leaking this stuff too.
I love the soap opera aspect of all this.
:flush: he's also been annoyingly and aggressively wrong too. BTW that doesn't account for the assistants being absent from the meeting as well.
Yeah you're probably right.
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To go to a shithole based entirely on what he believes? Alpha.
I know many people are trolling their asses off on this subject, but the people who truly banging the loyalty drum don't get this at all.
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Take this for what it's worth. A source with extremely close ties to players told me that the players wanted Frank gone. They had numerous team discussions that they were willing to go to extreme measures, including transferring, if Frank were to stay. This explains why Frank would leave in such a cloud of dust. This also explains Frank being absent for the team meeting as well as the players being "surprisingly happy". Again, take it for what it's worth, but my source is an EXTREMELY credible source. No news on recruits, but as far as current players go, all should be well.
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i don't find this surprising at all. I remember thinking how ridiculous it was that people were talking about Gruds transfering last year, and then it comes out that it was true. I'm confident Will was getting out. Will and Gruds were the heart of this team...i'm not sure how you can't believe this story.
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To go to a shithole based entirely on what he believes? Alpha.
I know many people are trolling their asses off on this subject, but the people who truly banging the loyalty drum don't get this at all.
I completely get it, and think it's completely rough ridin' stupid.
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To go to a shithole based entirely on what he believes? Alpha.
I know many people are trolling their asses off on this subject, but the people who truly banging the loyalty drum don't get this at all.
I completely get it, and think it's completely rough ridin' stupid.
So you think it was about money?
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Take this for what it's worth. A source with extremely close ties to players told me that the players wanted Frank gone. They had numerous team discussions that they were willing to go to extreme measures, including transferring, if Frank were to stay. This explains why Frank would leave in such a cloud of dust. This also explains Frank being absent for the team meeting as well as the players being "surprisingly happy". Again, take it for what it's worth, but my source is an EXTREMELY credible source. No news on recruits, but as far as current players go, all should be well.
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Well, I think that's completely bullshit. Better than the alternative. Still think it's bullshit.
iirc ryan has been right on stuff before. might be currie leaking this stuff too.
I love the soap opera aspect of all this.
:flush: he's also been annoyingly and aggressively wrong too. BTW that doesn't account for the assistants being absent from the meeting as well.
FWIW, I had also heard that there were at least 4 players that were transferring if Frank was still the coach next year...it's about 60 pages ago
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When is Frank gonna call a team meeting and let the players know what is going on? I can't imagine he'd pull a chickenshit move and sprint out of town without showing them some common courtesy. :lol:
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And to think, MIR threw a conniption fit because I suggested that Frank might have interest in Illinois. Now he's off to South f*cking Carolina. Unbelievable.
:surprised:
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When is Frank gonna call a team meeting and let the players know what is going on? I can't imagine he'd pull a chickenshit move and sprint out of town without showing them some common courtesy. :lol:
Fuktard, Frank has been out of town for over a week.
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To go to a shithole based entirely on what he believes? Alpha.
I know many people are trolling their asses off on this subject, but the people who truly banging the loyalty drum don't get this at all.
I completely get it, and think it's completely rough ridin' stupid.
So you think it was about money?
No, where did I say that? It was about being a hard headed bad person to one person above all else.
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And to think, MIR threw a conniption fit because I suggested that Frank might have interest in Illinois. Now he's off to South f*cking Carolina. Unbelievable.
:surprised:
What the eff are you talking about psycho? I did no such thing. It's late, you drinking or smoking again?
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To go to a shithole based entirely on what he believes? Alpha.
I know many people are trolling their asses off on this subject, but the people who truly banging the loyalty drum don't get this at all.
I completely get it, and think it's completely rough ridin' stupid.
So you think it was about money?
No, where did I say that? It was about being a hard headed bad person to one person above all else.
It was a question. If he was being a hard headed bad person then it was about principal right? It's either money and/or principal. Hard headed means he is set in his ways/values, no?
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To go to a shithole based entirely on what he believes? Alpha.
I know many people are trolling their asses off on this subject, but the people who truly banging the loyalty drum don't get this at all.
I completely get it, and think it's completely rough ridin' stupid.
if you completely got it, you really wouldn't think it was completely stupid. i mean that much should be obvious.
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And to think, MIR threw a conniption fit because I suggested that Frank might have interest in Illinois. Now he's off to South f*cking Carolina. Unbelievable.
:surprised:
What the eff are you talking about psycho? I did no such thing. It's late, you drinking or smoking again?
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And to think, MIR threw a conniption fit because I suggested that Frank might have interest in Illinois. Now he's off to South f*cking Carolina. Unbelievable.
:surprised:
What the eff are you talking about psycho? I did no such thing. It's late, you drinking or smoking again?
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Hey man, when you troll, you're not supposed to tell people that you're trolling.
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Some of us who are enjoying pointing out the "loyalty" comments are just doing it to point Frank is just a dude who likes money, likes people to kiss his ass, likes to do what he wants when he wants and likes to feel like a great virtuous person when he is just a crap bag like the rest of us.
I get why he left, I think we are going to hear more about the reasons as well.
There is nothing wrong with zinging him about his obvious hypocriscy
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To go to a shithole based entirely on what he believes? Alpha.
I know many people are trolling their asses off on this subject, but the people who truly banging the loyalty drum don't get this at all.
I completely get it, and think it's completely rough ridin' stupid.
if you completely got it, you really wouldn't think it was completely stupid. i mean that much should be obvious.
Of course I can. I can see where morons are coming from even if they are still morons.
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To go to a shithole based entirely on what he believes? Alpha.
I know many people are trolling their asses off on this subject, but the people who truly banging the loyalty drum don't get this at all.
I completely get it, and think it's completely rough ridin' stupid.
So you think it was about money?
No, where did I say that? It was about being a hard headed bad person to one person above all else.
It was a question. If he was being a hard headed bad person then it was about principal right? It's either money and/or principal. Hard headed means he is set in his ways/values, no?
I think it was mostly based on principal, and that was a stupid decision. Make sense?
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This new player mutiny angle is transforming a small portion of my rage and pain into curiosity.
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Some of us who are enjoying pointing out the "loyalty" comments are just doing it to point Frank is just a dude who likes money, likes people to kiss his ass, likes to do what he wants when he wants and likes to feel like a great virtuous person when he is just a crap bag like the rest of us.
I get why he left, I think we are going to hear more about the reasons as well.
There is nothing wrong with zinging him about his obvious hypocriscy
I don't see it as hypocrisy. If you hate lying, but tell a lie are you a hypocrite? I believe in loyalty, when I turn in a letter of resignation this week (absolutely happening BTW), I hope my clients don't think I'm a hypocrite. Frankly I just hate my moron bosses and want a new challenge.
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This new player mutiny angle is transforming a small portion of my rage and pain into curiosity.
Same here. I mean it makes sense. He runs off a couple players a year and cant recruit. Maybe he's a major ass hat.
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I think it was mostly based on principal, and that was a stupid decision. Make sense?
Makes perfect sense, only because I know you have the good sense to know that this is how you see it without knowing all that went into the decision and not as an absolute fact.
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This new player mutiny angle is transforming a small portion of my rage and pain into curiosity.
Same here. I mean it makes sense. He runs off a couple players a year and cant recruit. Maybe he's a major ass hat.
So we're serious about the can't recruit thing?
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Maybe his power and success have been increasingly corrupting and perverting him ( I guess this is obvious now). Jake wouldn't even recognize the man Frank is today.
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To go to a shithole based entirely on what he believes? Alpha.
I know many people are trolling their asses off on this subject, but the people who truly banging the loyalty drum don't get this at all.
I completely get it, and think it's completely rough ridin' stupid.
if you completely got it, you really wouldn't think it was completely stupid. i mean that much should be obvious.
Of course I can. I can see where morons are coming from even if they are still morons.
i never said you couldn't. you just don't get this. it's ok.
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This new player mutiny angle is transforming a small portion of my rage and pain into curiosity.
Same here. I mean it makes sense. He runs off a couple players a year and cant recruit. Maybe he's a major ass hat.
So we're serious about the can't recruit thing?
Idk. Im lost. We're lost. Somebody help us.
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To go to a shithole based entirely on what he believes? Alpha.
I know many people are trolling their asses off on this subject, but the people who truly banging the loyalty drum don't get this at all.
I completely get it, and think it's completely rough ridin' stupid.
if you completely got it, you really wouldn't think it was completely stupid. i mean that much should be obvious.
Of course I can. I can see where morons are coming from even if they are still morons.
i never said you couldn't. you just don't get this. it's ok.
he gets it
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The loyalty talking point might be well deserved, but frank was somewhat loyal during his tenure here (save the miami thing and this whole debacle)
Could it be that he was loyal to a fault, and once currie betrayed his loyalty to the university* he felt wronged and decided to make a change to a new place that he thought might be more loyal in return.
*not saying I necessarily believe any of this, just thought it was worth thinking about, but :combofuck: frank and currie for the way this all unfolded
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Maybe his power and success have been increasingly corrupting and perverting him ( I guess this is obvious now). Jake wouldn't even recognize the man Frank is today.
Oh eff off. Don't act like you know what the eff Jake does/would think.
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http://cjonline.com/sports/2012-03-26/fissures-ran-deep-martin-currie
Two years ago, Frank Martin sat behind a microphone, eyes puffy from tears, and marveled at the kind of country where a Cuban kid from Miami could grow up to be a millionaire.
Sitting to his right was John Currie, the athletic director who had just signed Martin to a long-term contract at Kansas State.
“I told John from Day One, I said, ‘I want to be the guy that grows old with you here,’ ” Martin said. “I told him that I didn’t want him to offer me a contract because it’s en vogue. I want to do it because you believe in me.
“It just goes to show that if you try to do right by people and do your job, good things can happen to you.”
Even in that picturesque moment, though, fissures were forming. Currie said during the news conference that he would meet with Martin later to determine salary increases for K-State’s assistant coaches. When the numbers came in, Martin believed the assistants had been promised more money during contract negotiations.
That was one of many times Martin didn’t see eye-to-eye with his athletic director during the three years they worked together at K-State. As a result, South Carolina will stage a different kind of news conference Tuesday morning, where the school is expected to introduce Martin as its next basketball coach.
Even before Martin’s move to South Carolina became imminent, sources said it was clear the relationship between Martin and Currie had been damaged beyond repair.
“The description of the toxic nature of Currie and Martin, I can’t imagine how you could salvage it with money or years on the contract,” said a source familiar with the relationship. “Somebody would have to swallow hard.”
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K-State hired Currie in 2009 in the wake of financial scandals that left fans craving responsible leadership. The previous athletic director, Bob Krause, had resigned amid revelations of expensive buyouts given to former employees, including the so-called secret agreement drafted for football coach Ron Prince.
Charged with cleaning up K-State’s image, Currie stressed a platform of transparency and fiscal accountability. The buttoned-down approach was at odds, however, with the rough edges that endeared Martin to many Wildcat fans.
If the relationship wasn’t strained at first, conflict was inevitable.
“There was the predictable playing nice together in the sandbox until the F-bomb dropped in the game or something ran afoul of something Currie was all about,” one source said.
Currie’s emphasis on branding and public relations didn’t square with Martin’s regular-guy persona. The tension manifested itself in myriad ways, from lectures on sideline decorum to Currie straightening Martin’s tie before a postgame news conference.
Martin resented what he viewed as micromanaging, sources said, and became suspicious of Currie’s motives. Neither Currie nor Martin returned repeated phone calls and text messages from The Capital-Journal.
“It’s been a constant fight,” said a source close to Martin. “Frank had to bite his tongue to be there as long as he did.”
Among Currie’s early moves was the hiring of Jamie Vaughn as associate athletic director for compliance. Currie gave K-State’s compliance office far-reaching authority to interpret NCAA rules, sources said, which led to more disagreements. Some were minor, like the implications of donating an autographed basketball to the Boys & Girls Club.
Others were more substantial, including the incident that proved to be the tipping point for Currie and Martin.
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K-State had just finished a film session the night before the Wildcats were to face No. 1 Syracuse in the NCAA Tournament. That’s when Currie approached Martin and, according to sources familiar with the conversation, informed him senior Jamar Samuels wouldn’t play after accepting a $200 wire transfer from a former AAU coach.
Martin was upset by the decision, the timing and the fact that he wasn’t given a chance to voice his opinion. After K-State lost 75-59 to Syracuse the next day, Martin didn’t hide his displeasure during the postgame news conference.
“He has, in my opinion, done nothing wrong,” Martin said, referring to Samuels. “You always have to err on the side of caution and not do something and look back on it and then regret your decision.
“Please don’t ask me any questions on it, because I had nothing to do with the decision. Any questions pertaining to this matter, please direct to John Currie, my boss.”
Currie and Martin later had a heated exchange regarding those comments, a source said, which may have been the end of a strained relationship.
Soon after K-State’s season ended, Martin emerged as a candidate for South Carolina’s coaching vacancy. Saturday, while Martin was in New York doing studio commentary for CBS, university president Kirk Schulz emailed members of the Kansas Board of Regents to tell them South Carolina was interested in speaking to K-State’s coach.
K-State had made overtures to Martin during the season about a contract extension, but there was no concerted push to counter South Carolina’s offer, sources said.
Martin flew directly to Columbia, S.C., to meet with university officials Monday and hasn’t returned to Manhattan. Martin wasn’t in attendance when K-State’s players gathered Monday night at Bramlage Coliseum.
Currie will meet with reporters at 10 a.m. Tuesday to address K-State’s basketball program. The immediate future likely will entail a coaching search, Currie’s first in any sport at K-State.
The public nature of Currie’s rift with Martin could impact K-State’s ability to attract a top-flight coach, said one athletics source. But K-State also has made a significant commitment to basketball during Currie’s tenure, raising money for a $17 million training facility currently under construction.
“If I was a coach and I was looking for an athletic director, I’d be a big John Currie fan,” said Ed McKechnie, chairman of the Kansas regents. “I would want that guy to be an advocate for me and go raise money.”
Clearly, K-State’s basketball identity is about to change. Martin’s fiery demeanor and colorful personality defined the program for the past five years, a run that included four NCAA Tournament appearances and a trip to the Elite Eight in 2010.
Despite the appearance of outward success, the cracks ran deep for Martin.
“The single bottom line for him was he didn’t trust (Currie),” said a source familiar with the relationship. “In Frank’s mind, this was an issue of trust.”
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Maybe his power and success have been increasingly corrupting and perverting him ( I guess this is obvious now). Jake wouldn't even recognize the man Frank is today.
Oh eff off. Don't act like you know what the eff Jake does/would think.
Sorry. Just expanding on my locker room mutiny / dark Jedi fantasy.
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The loyalty talking point might be well deserved, but frank was somewhat loyal during his tenure here (save the miami thing and this whole debacle)
Let them keep ignoring the hometown discount he accepted two years ago and the fact he stayed here when his relationship with his boss was completely crap. Lashing out is how some people are coping, its no big deal really.
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Currie’s emphasis on branding and public relations didn’t square with Martin’s regular-guy persona. The tension manifested itself in myriad ways, from lectures on sideline decorum to Currie straightening Martin’s tie before a postgame news conference.
:lol:
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Maybe his power and success have been increasingly corrupting and perverting him ( I guess this is obvious now). Jake wouldn't even recognize the man Frank is today.
Oh eff off. Don't act like you know what the eff Jake does/would think.
Sorry. Just expanding on my locker room mutiny / dark Jedi fantasy.
Meh, my emotions are high.
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Currie’s emphasis on branding and public relations didn’t square with Martin’s regular-guy persona. The tension manifested itself in myriad ways, from lectures on sideline decorum to Currie straightening Martin’s tie before a postgame news conference.
:lol:
I am dying imagining this. Frank was probably so pissed. :lol:
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Some of us who are enjoying pointing out the "loyalty" comments are just doing it to point Frank is just a dude who likes money, likes people to kiss his ass, likes to do what he wants when he wants and likes to feel like a great virtuous person when he is just a crap bag like the rest of us.
I get why he left, I think we are going to hear more about the reasons as well.
There is nothing wrong with zinging him about his obvious hypocriscy
I don't see it as hypocrisy. If you hate lying, but tell a lie are you a hypocrite? I believe in loyalty, when I turn in a letter of resignation this week (absolutely happening BTW), I hope my clients don't think I'm a hypocrite. Frankly I just hate my moron bosses and want a new challenge.
You haven't been kicking me and my entire family in the head with your "loyalty" boots for 5 years either.
If you have been spouting that around the office you don't think some of the people you actually like might think you are a hypocrite?
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meek is a star. good details in that article.
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The loyalty talking point might be well deserved, but frank was somewhat loyal during his tenure here (save the miami thing and this whole debacle)
Let them keep ignoring the hometown discount he accepted two years ago and the fact he stayed here when his relationship with his boss was completely crap. Lashing out is how some people are coping, its no big deal really.
exactly... i mean its not like he has been un-loyal to this program during his *entire time here.
like you were saying earlier, if someone dislikes a person that lies, that doesn't mean that they don't lie as well, they just dislike the way that they handle things.
I'm running on about 4 hours of sleep, so if this crap makes no sense I apologize.
*edit
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I'm very intrigued by the PowercatRyan story.
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frank was somewhat loyal during his tenure here (save the miami thing and this whole debacle)
I mean, he passed on a few jobs that were worse than Kansas State, bitched about not being offered a job that would've made some sense for him professionally, and eventually accepted a different job worse than Kansas State.
I guess I'm missing the part where "loyalty" played a role in any decision regarding his job at Kansas State, aside from accepting the raise he was offered. That's the laughable part about this whole thing, and that's really my point I guess, that it's funny. He talked and talked and talked about loyalty, and I can't think of a single time Frank showed his loyalty to us.
He was looking out for number one, which is completely understandable, but it certainly doesn't fit with the "loyalty" narrative Frank Martin liked to recite.
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frank was somewhat loyal during his tenure here (save the miami thing and this whole debacle)
I mean, he passed on a few jobs that were worse than Kansas State, bitched about not being offered a job that would've made some sense for him professionally, and eventually accepted a different job worse than Kansas State.
I guess I'm missing the part where "loyalty" played a role in any decision regarding his job at Kansas State, aside from accepting the raise he was offered. That's the laughable part about this whole thing, and that's really my point I guess, that it's funny. He talked and talked and talked about loyalty, and I can't think of a single time Frank showed his loyalty to us.
He was looking out for number one, which is completely understandable, but it certainly doesn't fit with the "loyalty" narrative Frank Martin liked to recite.
In hindsight I see what you are saying, but during his stay he was all about k-state.
And yes I realize that it might have all been a facade he put on simply because he was the head coach here, but it has to count for something.
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Some of us who are enjoying pointing out the "loyalty" comments are just doing it to point Frank is just a dude who likes money, likes people to kiss his ass, likes to do what he wants when he wants and likes to feel like a great virtuous person when he is just a crap bag like the rest of us.
I get why he left, I think we are going to hear more about the reasons as well.
There is nothing wrong with zinging him about his obvious hypocriscy
I don't see it as hypocrisy. If you hate lying, but tell a lie are you a hypocrite? I believe in loyalty, when I turn in a letter of resignation this week (absolutely happening BTW), I hope my clients don't think I'm a hypocrite. Frankly I just hate my moron bosses and want a new challenge.
You haven't been kicking me and my entire family in the head with your "loyalty" boots for 5 years either.
If you have been spouting that around the office you don't think some of the people you actually like might think you are a hypocrite?
Well completely disregarding the fact that we might be overplaying the "loyalty" talking point, sure in your example some people might I'm a hypocrite, some might applaud me. If I know I did my job well and performed at a high level while I was there I would hope people would be happy for what I did while I was there and respect my decision knowing they don't know everything that went into my decision. If they couldn't do that I would be slightly disappointed but I wouldn't lose sleep.
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Well completely disregarding the fact that we might be overplaying the "loyalty" talking point, sure in your example some people might I'm a hypocrite, some might applaud me. If I know I did my job well and performed at a high level while I was there I would hope people would be happy for what I did while I was there and respect my decision knowing they don't know everything that went into my decision. If they couldn't do that I would be slightly disappointed but I wouldn't lose sleep.
I actually agree with a lot of this. The problem is that we KNOW many, many positives in KSU's favor. There are so many positives in KSU's favor, that if a rational decision to leave based on the actions of someone at KSU, those actions should be fireable IMO. Frank could have had the offending parties fired and left himself in a better situation. (Not sure if that make sense, but it kind of does to me).
I mean I guess there is a chance that this had nothing to do w/ someone with KSU at all, there is no way we could know.
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Some of us who are enjoying pointing out the "loyalty" comments are just doing it to point Frank is just a dude who likes money, likes people to kiss his ass, likes to do what he wants when he wants and likes to feel like a great virtuous person when he is just a crap bag like the rest of us.
I get why he left, I think we are going to hear more about the reasons as well.
There is nothing wrong with zinging him about his obvious hypocriscy
I don't see it as hypocrisy. If you hate lying, but tell a lie are you a hypocrite? I believe in loyalty, when I turn in a letter of resignation this week (absolutely happening BTW), I hope my clients don't think I'm a hypocrite. Frankly I just hate my moron bosses and want a new challenge.
You haven't been kicking me and my entire family in the head with your "loyalty" boots for 5 years either.
If you have been spouting that around the office you don't think some of the people you actually like might think you are a hypocrite?
Well completely disregarding the fact that we might be overplaying the "loyalty" talking point, sure in your example some people might I'm a hypocrite, some might applaud me. If I know I did my job well and performed at a high level while I was there I would hope people would be happy for what I did while I was there and respect my decision knowing they don't know everything that went into my decision. If they couldn't do that I would be slightly disappointed but I wouldn't lose sleep.
Most likely overplaying it right now. I just confirmed he was leaving for a crap stain like USC so it is what sticks out tonight.
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those actions should be fireable IMO. Frank could have had the offending parties fired and left himself in a better situation. (Not sure if that make sense, but it kind of does to me).
Well Shultz is entrenched with Currie. I'm not trying to absolve Frank from everything. If he was completely innocent then perhaps Schultz would have taken Frank's side. Maybe not :dunno:
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Now that I think about it. As much as I believe Currie is in the wrong, we need him to look like the good guy.
eff Frank. Cheating piece of crap.
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Hey fellas I hate to break it to you but endlessly debating this "loyalty" thing is boring as crap for the rest of us. Please get back to good stuff, tia. :thumbs:
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Hey fellas I hate to break it to you but endlessly debating this "loyalty" thing is boring as crap for the rest of us. Please get back to good stuff, tia. :thumbs:
Fine... how was the pizza?
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those actions should be fireable IMO. Frank could have had the offending parties fired and left himself in a better situation. (Not sure if that make sense, but it kind of does to me).
Well Shultz is entrenched with Currie. I'm not trying to absolve Frank from everything. If he was completely innocent then perhaps Schultz would have taken Frank's side. Maybe not :dunno:
Can you imagine how bad it had to be to walk away from what he has to what he is going to? It would have to be bad enough that if Schulz wouldn't intervene, going public with whatever happened could have gotten Currie canned.
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those actions should be fireable IMO. Frank could have had the offending parties fired and left himself in a better situation. (Not sure if that make sense, but it kind of does to me).
Well Shultz is entrenched with Currie. I'm not trying to absolve Frank from everything. If he was completely innocent then perhaps Schultz would have taken Frank's side. Maybe not :dunno:
Can you imagine how bad it had to be to walk away from what he has to what he is going to? It would have to be bad enough that if Schulz wouldn't intervene, going public with whatever happened could have gotten Currie canned.
I mean there was tie straitening involved.
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It would be stupid for him to be more loyal to K-State than it was to him. Yes, he had fan support. But for him, K-State was where he worked and his boss. His boss was certainly not loyal to him, don't know why people expect Frank to put up with that crap.
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So I was back to :curse: and ready for bed, but now I'm all :popcorn: and ready for more tomorrow.
Can't wait for the press conference. Who's staying, who's going. Coaching search bbs'ing. :love:
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Maybe he was loyal to his team and Jamar, and when Currie stopped rough ridin' with Frank's tie long enough to tell him he was suspending our senior from his last game, Frank decided to leave.
Would the anti-Franks be as mad if he'd just resigned over the issue without having another job in hand?
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those actions should be fireable IMO. Frank could have had the offending parties fired and left himself in a better situation. (Not sure if that make sense, but it kind of does to me).
Well Shultz is entrenched with Currie. I'm not trying to absolve Frank from everything. If he was completely innocent then perhaps Schultz would have taken Frank's side. Maybe not :dunno:
Can you imagine how bad it had to be to walk away from what he has to what he is going to? It would have to be bad enough that if Schulz wouldn't intervene, going public with whatever happened could have gotten Currie canned.
I see what you did there.
Also I don't think the USC job is bad is as bad as most. It's bad no doubt, but there's no reason they can't be as good as he was here. They should expect to be better.
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Well, thanks in part to that meek article, I've moved straight on to eff currie mode.
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those actions should be fireable IMO. Frank could have had the offending parties fired and left himself in a better situation. (Not sure if that make sense, but it kind of does to me).
Well Shultz is entrenched with Currie. I'm not trying to absolve Frank from everything. If he was completely innocent then perhaps Schultz would have taken Frank's side. Maybe not :dunno:
Can you imagine how bad it had to be to walk away from what he has to what he is going to? It would have to be bad enough that if Schulz wouldn't intervene, going public with whatever happened could have gotten Currie canned.
I see what you did there.
Also I don't think the USC job is bad is as bad as most. It's bad no doubt, but there's no reason they can't be as good as he was here. They should expect to be better.
I would guess he is at least three years away from building a roster as good as the one he could have at KSU next season. Of course if all the players hate him and want him to leave, that kind of changes things.
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Would the anti-Franks be as mad if he'd just resigned over the issue without having another job in hand?
Although I recognize it's completely irrational, I would be less mad at Frank, for some reason.
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Would the anti-Franks be as mad if he'd just resigned over the issue without having another job in hand?
Any indication that Frank would ever do that?
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I would guess he is at least three years away from building a roster as good as the one he could have at KSU next season. Of course if all the players hate him and want him to leave, that kind of changes things.
Completely agree. There is no pressure on him though, they won two conference games, they have no history. He will have them competitive right away. I wouldn't doubt that he makes the NCAA's in 2014 and gets a new contract.
Also he will learn from this experience and I'd be willing to bet he will correct some of the things he did here that were undesirable.
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I would guess he is at least three years away from building a roster as good as the one he could have at KSU next season. Of course if all the players hate him and want him to leave, that kind of changes things.
Completely agree. There is no pressure on him though, they won two conference games, they have no history. He will have them competitive right away. I wouldn't doubt that he makes the NCAA's in 2014 and gets a new contract.
Also he will learn from this experience and I'd be willing to bet he will correct some of the things he did here that were undesirable.
I don't doubt this. Mellenger's garbage opinion, Frank may have hit his ceiling here, or close to it. For him, how could a fresh start (away from Currie and for $2.05) hurt?
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I would guess he is at least three years away from building a roster as good as the one he could have at KSU next season. Of course if all the players hate him and want him to leave, that kind of changes things.
Completely agree. There is no pressure on him though, they won two conference games, they have no history. He will have them competitive right away. I wouldn't doubt that he makes the NCAA's in 2014 and gets a new contract.
Also he will learn from this experience and I'd be willing to bet he will correct some of the things he did here that were undesirable.
I also wouldn't be surprised if 2015 is a "make the NCAA tourney or get fired" year.
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I would guess he is at least three years away from building a roster as good as the one he could have at KSU next season. Of course if all the players hate him and want him to leave, that kind of changes things.
Completely agree. There is no pressure on him though, they won two conference games, they have no history. He will have them competitive right away. I wouldn't doubt that he makes the NCAA's in 2014 and gets a new contract.
Also he will learn from this experience and I'd be willing to bet he will correct some of the things he did here that were undesirable.
I also wouldn't be surprised if 2015 is a "make the NCAA tourney or get fired" year.
$2.05 is a LOT of cake for perpetual rebuilding.
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I would guess he is at least three years away from building a roster as good as the one he could have at KSU next season. Of course if all the players hate him and want him to leave, that kind of changes things.
Completely agree. There is no pressure on him though, they won two conference games, they have no history. He will have them competitive right away. I wouldn't doubt that he makes the NCAA's in 2014 and gets a new contract.
Also he will learn from this experience and I'd be willing to bet he will correct some of the things he did here that were undesirable.
I also wouldn't be surprised if 2015 is a "make the NCAA tourney or get fired" year.
I don't think so. The only way is if he makes the NIT the next two years. They have a long way to go. If he gets fired after three years it would be the best Currie validation. There is no way a team that went 2-14 would fire another coach in three years for strictly basketball performance issues.
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I would guess he is at least three years away from building a roster as good as the one he could have at KSU next season. Of course if all the players hate him and want him to leave, that kind of changes things.
Completely agree. There is no pressure on him though, they won two conference games, they have no history. He will have them competitive right away. I wouldn't doubt that he makes the NCAA's in 2014 and gets a new contract.
Also he will learn from this experience and I'd be willing to bet he will correct some of the things he did here that were undesirable.
I also wouldn't be surprised if 2015 is a "make the NCAA tourney or get fired" year.
I don't think so. The only way is if he makes the NIT the next two years. They have a long way to go. If he gets fired after three years it would be the best Currie validation. There is no way a team that went 2-14 would fire another coach in three years for strictly basketball performance issues.
I was sucking at math. I meant to say I can see him getting no NCAA his first three seasons and year 4 will be make-or-break. His recruiting will be interesting.
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Currie’s emphasis on branding and public relations didn’t square with Martin’s regular-guy persona. The tension manifested itself in myriad ways, from lectures on sideline decorum to Currie straightening Martin’s tie before a postgame news conference.
:lol:
I am dying imagining this. Frank was probably so pissed. :lol:
The breaking point was when Currie licked his thumb and tried to rub a smudge off Frank's cheek. Martin said "That's my scar"
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Would the anti-Franks be as mad if he'd just resigned over the issue without having another job in hand?
Any indication that Frank would ever do that?
The seeming indifference on his end of negotiating with KSU, even with having leverage in the form of a $2m offer in hand. He was leaving, South Carolina or TV or whatever. And factoring in TV, as a practical matter, he did have a job in hand. If he'd quit in the Syracuse postgame and there were no coaching jobs available, last weekend would've been his first week on the job rather than a guest appearance.
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only a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) is loyal to someone who hates you.
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I would guess he is at least three years away from building a roster as good as the one he could have at KSU next season. Of course if all the players hate him and want him to leave, that kind of changes things.
Completely agree. There is no pressure on him though, they won two conference games, they have no history. He will have them competitive right away. I wouldn't doubt that he makes the NCAA's in 2014 and gets a new contract.
Also he will learn from this experience and I'd be willing to bet he will correct some of the things he did here that were undesirable.
I also wouldn't be surprised if 2015 is a "make the NCAA tourney or get fired" year.
I agree. When Frank started out in his first year he had the best recruiting class K-State has ever seen. His recruiting has been Woolyesque at best since. Now he is starting over with a team that lost to the likes of Tennessee State and Elon and finished at the bottom of the SEC. If he doesn't convince Upshaw to sign there along with getting a couple of big transfers then I can't see him climbing out of the bottom of the SEC.
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I would guess he is at least three years away from building a roster as good as the one he could have at KSU next season. Of course if all the players hate him and want him to leave, that kind of changes things.
Completely agree. There is no pressure on him though, they won two conference games, they have no history. He will have them competitive right away. I wouldn't doubt that he makes the NCAA's in 2014 and gets a new contract.
Also he will learn from this experience and I'd be willing to bet he will correct some of the things he did here that were undesirable.
I also wouldn't be surprised if 2015 is a "make the NCAA tourney or get fired" year.
I agree. When Frank started out in his first year he had the best recruiting class K-State has ever seen. His recruiting has been Woolyesque at best since. Now he is starting over with a team that lost to the likes of Tennessee State and Elon and finished at the bottom of the SEC. If he doesn't convince Upshaw to sign there along with getting a couple of big transfers then I can't see him climbing out of the bottom of the SEC.
Also the division includes UK, UF, Vandy, and MU. Not sure how they will schedule bball but those aren't Nortards.
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I agree. When Frank started out in his first year he had the best recruiting class K-State has ever seen. His recruiting has been Woolyesque at best since.
:sdeek: he was gifted literally two players and they left after his first season, arguably his worst. If you contend that his recruiting was Woolyesque, isn't that a argument for his success at USC? Unless you think the flight into Charleston will make him forget how to coach.
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yeah, his recruiting was much better than wooly's and was getting better. But who knows how it will go @USC. I'm almost done caring about this bad person, so whatever.
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I would guess he is at least three years away from building a roster as good as the one he could have at KSU next season. Of course if all the players hate him and want him to leave, that kind of changes things.
Completely agree. There is no pressure on him though, they won two conference games, they have no history. He will have them competitive right away. I wouldn't doubt that he makes the NCAA's in 2014 and gets a new contract.
Also he will learn from this experience and I'd be willing to bet he will correct some of the things he did here that were undesirable.
It reminds me of a conversation I had with someone on the board while watching the TTU game this year. I wondered what it would be like watching Frank try to coach an inherited mess like the once Billy G took over. Well, SC isn't as bad a TTU but they are still pretty damn putrid, so I' guessing we will find out.
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I would guess he is at least three years away from building a roster as good as the one he could have at KSU next season. Of course if all the players hate him and want him to leave, that kind of changes things.
Completely agree. There is no pressure on him though, they won two conference games, they have no history. He will have them competitive right away. I wouldn't doubt that he makes the NCAA's in 2014 and gets a new contract.
Also he will learn from this experience and I'd be willing to bet he will correct some of the things he did here that were undesirable.
It reminds me of a conversation I had with someone on the board while watching the TTU game this year. I wondered what it would be like watching Frank try to coach an inherited mess like the once Billy G took over. Well, SC isn't as bad a TTU but they are still pretty damn putrid, so I' guessing we will find out.
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Many of you have very disturbing opinions of the South and from them I can tell that few of you have lived there for any real amount of time. I'd suggest that you guys visit but I'd rather you not with the kinds of attitudes you have.
Really though, no one can see the problems with the arguments you've been making?...
...There have been racists in the South therefore all Southerners must be racist....There is a Confederate flag on Government property in SC therefore all people from that State are racist and hate interracial marriage.
Who's actually prejudiced here? Wait I know, I know...its me.
Lived in PigaggieVille for almost 10 years. Pro Tip: The racist stuff is very much true.
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Lived in PigaggieVille for almost 10 years. Pro Tip: The racist stuff is very much true.
My wife has family in SC, a cousin who went to Clemson and a cousin who went to USC. The one who went to USC is much more racist, and that's saying something. Went to a house party at his place a few years ago, learned a lot of new racist jokes. Very uncomfortable.
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only a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) is loyal to someone who hates you.
irony and hypocrisy all rolled up into one.
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only a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) is loyal to someone who hates you.
irony and hypocrisy all rolled up into one.
wow.
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I hope the moving company Frank hires ghosts the moving truck off a cliff. eff you Frank.
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Reports that 5 to 6 players were going to transfer out if Frank stayed. Including Angel. Have fun USC.
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Reports that 5 to 6 players were going to transfer out if Frank stayed. Including Angel. Have fun USC.
Thanks, Storm Luke. :emawkid:
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Reports that 5 to 6 players were going to transfer out if Frank stayed. Including Angel. Have fun USC.
Thanks, Storm Luke. :emawkid:
you're welcome
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I guess Big Gip doesn't have to lose 50 lbs anymore.
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Reports that 5 to 6 players were going to transfer out if Frank stayed. Including Angel. Have fun USC.
Thanks, Storm Luke. :emawkid:
you're welcome
Perhaps why Frank didn't tell his players personally that he was abandoning ship..
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Reports that 5 to 6 players were going to transfer out if Frank stayed. Including Angel. Have fun USC.
Thanks, Storm Luke. :emawkid:
you're welcome
Perhaps why Frank didn't tell his players personally that he was abandoning ship..
I think that is very telling. I'm not surprised by the talk of 4-6 transfers. We all overlooked a lot of the warts because we the end appeared to justify the means. Now the light shines a little brighter. How many college kids can/will put up with Franks crap for 4 years?
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Thank GOD Frank left before Will bolted!
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Reports that 5 to 6 players were going to transfer out if Frank stayed. Including Angel. Have fun USC.
Thanks, Storm Luke. :emawkid:
you're welcome
Perhaps why Frank didn't tell his players personally that he was abandoning ship..
I think that is very telling. I'm not surprised by the talk of 4-6 transfers. We all overlooked a lot of the warts because we the end appeared to justify the means. Now the light shines a little brighter. How many college kids can/will put up with Franks crap for 4 years?
Not surprised at all either, look at the handful of players that we know couldn't deal with it.
Emotions were high yesterday, I may owe someone an apology, but it won't happen.
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Reports that 5 to 6 players were going to transfer out if Frank stayed. Including Angel. Have fun USC.
I'm fine with our players doing whatever is best for them. None of them came here for me, or even for K-State. They came mainly for Frank and his staff, and if they can get opportunities that fit them better somewhere else they should go for it.
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Would the anti-Franks be as mad if he'd just resigned over the issue without having another job in hand?
Any indication that Frank would ever do that?
The seeming indifference on his end of negotiating with KSU, even with having leverage in the form of a $2m offer in hand. He was leaving, South Carolina or TV or whatever. And factoring in TV, as a practical matter, he did have a job in hand. If he'd quit in the Syracuse postgame and there were no coaching jobs available, last weekend would've been his first week on the job rather than a guest appearance.
This is becoming apparent. Though he would have never had a tv gig outside of Topeka. CBS often takes coaches who went out in the previous round to come in and discuss the next round, they never give them full time jobs.
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Reports that 5 to 6 players were going to transfer out if Frank stayed. Including Angel. Have fun USC.
I'm fine with our players doing whatever is best for them. None of them came here for me, or even for K-State. They came mainly for Frank and his staff, and if they can get opportunities that fit them better somewhere else they should go for it.
I'm glad we kept those 4-6 players happy. A lineup of Omari, Watson, Sprads, Martavius, and Jones should put us square in the race for 9th in the BigXII.
:dubious:
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Reports that 5 to 6 players were going to transfer out if Frank stayed. Including Angel. Have fun USC.
I'm fine with our players doing whatever is best for them. None of them came here for me, or even for K-State. They came mainly for Frank and his staff, and if they can get opportunities that fit them better somewhere else they should go for it.
All is fine and good but if we lost that many players at the same time we might as well kiss away about 2 scholarships and playing in the NCAA for the next 2 years. APR would have eaten us alive.
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Reports that 5 to 6 players were going to transfer out if Frank stayed. Including Angel. Have fun USC.
I'm fine with our players doing whatever is best for them. None of them came here for me, or even for K-State. They came mainly for Frank and his staff, and if they can get opportunities that fit them better somewhere else they should go for it.
All is fine and good but if we lost that many players at the same time we might as well kiss away about 2 scholarships and playing in the NCAA for the next 2 years. APR would have eaten us alive.
Sure, it would be horrible for K-State. The next coach will have to make a hard sell to keep as many players as he can, for the reasons you said. But its also not the players' fault, they are just caught in the middle of the mess even moreso than we are as fans. I'm certainly not going to be upset with any of them if they choose to go somewhere else.
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Reports that 5 to 6 players were going to transfer out if Frank stayed. Including Angel. Have fun USC.
I'm fine with our players doing whatever is best for them. None of them came here for me, or even for K-State. They came mainly for Frank and his staff, and if they can get opportunities that fit them better somewhere else they should go for it.
I'm glad we kept those 4-6 players happy. A lineup of Omari, Watson, Sprads, Martavius, and Jones should put us square in the race for 9th in the BigXII.
:dubious:
I think you are really missing the bigger picture. If Frank can't recruit players that want to play for him than what does that say? I know there is attrition in other programs, but does any quality program deal with this type of stuff EVERY year? I don't know the answer but I would guess not, at least not to the degree that we have.
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:frown:
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Reports that 5 to 6 players were going to transfer out if Frank stayed. Including Angel. Have fun USC.
I'm fine with our players doing whatever is best for them. None of them came here for me, or even for K-State. They came mainly for Frank and his staff, and if they can get opportunities that fit them better somewhere else they should go for it.
All is fine and good but if we lost that many players at the same time we might as well kiss away about 2 scholarships and playing in the NCAA for the next 2 years. APR would have eaten us alive.
Sure, it would be horrible for K-State. The next coach will have to make a hard sell to keep as many players as he can, for the reasons you said. But its also not the players' fault, they are just caught in the middle of the mess even moreso than we are as fans. I'm certainly not going to be upset with any of them if they choose to go somewhere else.
no doubt don't fault the players at all. Don't get me wrong.
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the players leaving the team meeting last night laughing and upbeat seems to fit the "new" rumors a bit more.
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What was Fescoe's big news on KSU this morning?
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What was Fescoe's big news on KSU this morning?
apparently there was a rift b/w K-State AD and martin
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What was Fescoe's big news on KSU this morning?
apparently there was a rift b/w K-State AD and martin
i just don't believe it.
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consiperacy theory here: Martin wanted to play Samuels because he wanted to win and get as far in the tournament as he could to get the best job possible. Look at the signs. Martin had Upshaw sign an aide agreement instead of an LOI. He didn't care what happened to KSU with sanctions because he knew he was gone.
I just feel sorry for Jamar because it appears both Martin and Currie used him as a pawn in their game. eff both of them.
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What was Fescoe's big news on KSU this morning?
apparently there was a rift b/w K-State AD and martin
Leave it to Luke Fescoe to expose K-State. What a scoop.
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This is becoming apparent. Though he would have never had a tv gig outside of Topeka. CBS often takes coaches who went out in the previous round to come in and discuss the next round, they never give them full time jobs.
No way, ESPN loves him and they've got infinite jobs.
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consiperacy theory here: Martin wanted to play Samuels because he wanted to win and get as far in the tournament as he could to get the best job possible. Look at the signs. Martin had Upshaw sign an aide agreement instead of an LOI. He didn't care what happened to KSU with sanctions because he knew he was gone.
I just feel sorry for Jamar because it appears both Martin and Currie used him as a pawn in their game. eff both of them.
Interesting
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The tension manifested itself in myriad ways, from lectures on sideline decorum to Currie straightening Martin’s tie before a postgame news conference.
:facepalm:
This makes it harder to be angry at Frank. I doubt his own mother could have gotten away with that.
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The tension manifested itself in myriad ways, from lectures on sideline decorum to Currie straightening Martin’s tie before a postgame news conference.
:facepalm:
This makes it harder to be angry at Frank. I doubt his own mother could have gotten away with that.
OMG, Currie straightened his tie! What a terrible working environment.
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BTW - Six-year deal. 1.9M first year, 2.0M second, 2.1M for rest. SC is paying the $1M buyout
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The tension manifested itself in myriad ways, from lectures on sideline decorum to Currie straightening Martin’s tie before a postgame news conference.
:facepalm:
This makes it harder to be angry at Frank. I doubt his own mother could have gotten away with that.
OMG, Currie straightened his tie! What a terrible working environment.
I mean if my tie was crooked and I was about to go on national TV, I would want someone to straighten it.
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Contract term: Six years ending March 31, 2018
Base Salary: $300,000
Media compensation (paid by outside rights holders):
Year 1: $1.3 million
Year 2: $1.4 million
Year 3: $1.5 million
Year 4-6: $1.6 million
Supplemental compensation:
Year 1: $300,000
Year 2: $300,000
Year 3: $300,000
Year 4-6: $200,000
There are also a lot of Incentive-Based compensation packages. They include conference wins, championships, post-season tourney, Coach of the Year, etc.
The Contract buyout will not exceed $1 million
Termination by coach:
Year 1: $4 mil
Year 2: $3 mil
Year 3: $1.5 mil
Year 4: $800,000
Year 5-6: $500,000
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frank assaults stippers in the most vile ways imaginable but you straighten his tie AND HE'S rough ridin' OUT OF HERE!
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The tension manifested itself in myriad ways, from lectures on sideline decorum to Currie straightening Martin’s tie before a postgame news conference.
:facepalm:
This makes it harder to be angry at Frank. I doubt his own mother could have gotten away with that.
OMG, Currie straightened his tie! What a terrible working environment.
Yeah, if that were his sole reason for leaving.
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Currie just said that Martin asked to talk to USC and was going to take the job if offered... This was over Friday night.
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Does anyone remember the 2 adorable Cincy fans we had on KSUfans that followed Huggins? jarr and snart I believe were there names? They used to argue, it was cute.
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Does anyone remember the 2 adorable Cincy fans we had on KSUfans that followed Huggins? jarr and snart I believe were there names? They used to argue, it was cute.
http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=64293
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frank had 958 tweets while head coach at kansas state.
1 - the number of times he mentioned john currie
3 - the number of times he used the word loyalty*
*just watched gladiator. wow!!! it gets me everytime. maximus stood 4 honor, honesty and loyalty. that's what it's all about.
*2 words that I was raised on, Loyalty & honesty. Those r the qualities that this great country stood 4. We all need 2get back 2 those things
*Loyalty is a 2 way street. Brad, Matt,Lamont and the rest of our staff has been loyal now it was time 4 me and KState 2 b loyal 2 them
33 - the number of times he's been proud.
124 - number of times he used the word 'great'
20 - number of times he used 'gr8'
1 - times frank called kirk schulz 'great'*
*u need a great boss 2 be a successful employee. and i have a great one.
0 - times frank called john currie 'great'
I'm on my phone and haven't seen the rest of the thread yet, but wanted to make sure this was acknowledged. I love this kind of crap. You're great, jrake.
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friend of the sprads family says on 810 that at the okie state game in stillwater, frank cussed out will and said "something terrible" (which he wouldn't repeat) and that was what pissed will off
also said will was sick during the bama game and had to get an iv at sprint center, and had an infection on his hand this season which affected his shooting
also confirmed will was looking for a transfer, and that he was "not alone" in doing that
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There's plenty of fire to go along with that smoke.
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friend of the sprads family says on 810 that at the okie state game in stillwater, frank cussed out will and said "something terrible" (which he wouldn't repeat) and that was what pissed will off
also said will was sick during the bama game and had to get an iv at sprint center, and had an infection on his hand this season which affected his shooting
also confirmed will was looking for a transfer, and that he was "not alone" in doing that
Boom. Called it.
Probably BS, oh well.
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friend of the sprads family says on 810 that at the okie state game in stillwater, frank cussed out will and said "something terrible" (which he wouldn't repeat) and that was what pissed will off
also said will was sick during the bama game and had to get an iv at sprint center, and had an infection on his hand this season which affected his shooting
also confirmed will was looking for a transfer, and that he was "not alone" in doing that
didn't catch the whole thing but it sounded like the caller's wife cut Sprads hair (reminiscent of the barber leak during It's Patterson). Also, the guy's main purpose for the call was to dispute the Sprads wants to play point as a reason for transferring
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friend of the sprads family says on 810 that at the okie state game in stillwater, frank cussed out will and said "something terrible" (which he wouldn't repeat) and that was what pissed will off
also said will was sick during the bama game and had to get an iv at sprint center, and had an infection on his hand this season which affected his shooting
also confirmed will was looking for a transfer, and that he was "not alone" in doing that
didn't catch the whole thing but it sounded like the caller's wife cut Sprads hair (reminiscent of the barber leak during It's Patterson). Also, the guy's main purpose for the call was to dispute the Sprads wants to play point as a reason for transferring
it was probably john currie calling with a hillbilly voice changer
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friend of the sprads family says on 810 that at the okie state game in stillwater, frank cussed out will and said "something terrible" (which he wouldn't repeat) and that was what pissed will off
also said will was sick during the bama game and had to get an iv at sprint center, and had an infection on his hand this season which affected his shooting
also confirmed will was looking for a transfer, and that he was "not alone" in doing that
didn't catch the whole thing but it sounded like the caller's wife cut Sprads hair (reminiscent of the barber leak during It's Patterson). Also, the guy's main purpose for the call was to dispute the Sprads wants to play point as a reason for transferring
it was probably john currie calling with a hillbilly voice changer
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friend of the sprads family says on 810 that at the okie state game in stillwater, frank cussed out will and said "something terrible" (which he wouldn't repeat) and that was what pissed will off
also said will was sick during the bama game and had to get an iv at sprint center, and had an infection on his hand this season which affected his shooting
also confirmed will was looking for a transfer, and that he was "not alone" in doing that
didn't catch the whole thing but it sounded like the caller's wife cut Sprads hair (reminiscent of the barber leak during It's Patterson). Also, the guy's main purpose for the call was to dispute the Sprads wants to play point as a reason for transferring
it was probably john currie calling with a hillbilly voice changer
:lol:
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friend of the sprads family says on 810 that at the okie state game in stillwater, frank cussed out will and said "something terrible" (which he wouldn't repeat) and that was what pissed will off
also said will was sick during the bama game and had to get an iv at sprint center, and had an infection on his hand this season which affected his shooting
also confirmed will was looking for a transfer, and that he was "not alone" in doing that
I don't know how anyone could have heard that and didn't think that guy was stretching the truth. I'm sure that was batorugby or tkurthl or some crap.
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didn't hear the call but I know for a fact that sprads does not want to play point.
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didn't hear the call but I know for a fact that sprads does not want to play point.
yeah I think we all know that, its too bad he can't really play the 2 either. the guy on BITB insisted that's not why Will wanted to leave, I got the impression that this guy and/or who he was speaking for thinks Will can beat Angel out at the point.
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IIRC at the end of the OSU game, frank called a timieout after will missed a FT and then called will a f'ing coward.
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IIRC at the end of the OSU game, frank called a timieout after will missed a FT and then called will a f'ing coward.
Wasn't that Missouri?
It was worse at OSU.
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IIRC at the end of the OSU game, frank called a timieout after will missed a FT and then called will a f'ing coward.
Wasn't that Missouri?
It was worse at OSU.
that' right. i get frank's "coaching" confused sometimes.
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friend of the sprads family says on 810 that at the okie state game in stillwater, frank cussed out will and said "something terrible" (which he wouldn't repeat) and that was what pissed will off
also said will was sick during the bama game and had to get an iv at sprint center, and had an infection on his hand this season which affected his shooting
also confirmed will was looking for a transfer, and that he was "not alone" in doing that
Boom. Called it.
Probably BS, oh well.
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Two Dillons employees helped me find the trash can Jamar Samuels' wire transfer receipt was supposedly found in http://bit.ly/GUHuAU
we are k-state
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Yeah, that's effing ridiculous.
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Two Dillons employees helped me find the trash can Jamar Samuels' wire transfer receipt was supposedly found in http://bit.ly/GUHuAU
we are k-state
A lot of KU alums work at Dillons.
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You've got to be effing kidding me.
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had an infection on his hand this season which affected his shooting
Thank god I didn't high-five him.
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Are we believing the receipt story? I mean there's no way, right?
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Are we believing the receipt story? I mean there's no way, right?
No.
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Are we believing the receipt story? I mean there's no way, right?
If the story is true, I think it will turn up. Currie is going to have a hard time denying a KORA request for that receipt after he blabbed about it at the press conference.
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had an infection on his hand this season which affected his shooting
Thank god I didn't high-five him.
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Koppe lied.
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Koppe lied.
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in his defense, It looked that way from Rob's tweet.
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Koppe lied.
:facepalm:
in his defense, It looked that way from Rob's tweet.
So Upshaw did sign an LOI?
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Koppe lied.
:facepalm:
in his defense, It looked that way from Rob's tweet.
So Upshaw did sign an LOI?
no.
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Koppe lied.
:facepalm:
in his defense, It looked that way from Rob's tweet.
So Upshaw did sign an LOI?
no.
So kope lied about???
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Koppe lied.
:facepalm:
in his defense, It looked that way from Rob's tweet.
So Upshaw did sign an LOI?
no.
So kope lied about???
Nothing
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@DrKellyWelch lol ms welch you cant do that.
even in such shitty circumstance, the cats are still adorable.
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Please pray for Dave. He's been missing since Monday, burgundy mini van. Am losing hope for his safe return.
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@DrKellyWelch lol ms welch you cant do that.
even in such shitty circumstance, the cats are still adorable.
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Please pray for Dave. He's been missing since Monday, burgundy mini van. Am losing hope for his safe return.
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wait, what's happening?
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Who is Dave
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Who is Dave
her husband i guess. :frown:
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get better dave :frown:
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http://youtu.be/Bzky3k21dIg
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LoL
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woof.
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Why is his right arm shaking like that? I'm worried :frown:
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first time i've ever heard of anyone refer to south carolina as "carolina" - that's the scummy gross one of the two.
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:lol:
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Those highlights, the only one post 1970 was just a guy dribbling.
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Why is his right arm shaking like that? I'm worried :frown:
dementia.
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Why is his right arm shaking like that? I'm worried :frown:
dementia.
Stopped believing in angels, drinking again to kill whatever is left of his psoriasis covered liver.
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woo, pig.