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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1450 on: March 25, 2012, 08:54:33 PM »
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There is a group of big donors wanting a meeting with the pres. tomorrow. Either currie is gone or their money is gone. Doesn't sound good for kstate. Source A.

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« Reply #1451 on: March 25, 2012, 09:22:58 PM »
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There is a group of big donors wanting a meeting with the pres. tomorrow. Either currie is gone or their money is gone. Doesn't sound good for kstate. Source A.

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sounds like the Fitz is about to hit the fan...

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1452 on: March 25, 2012, 09:45:36 PM »
I don't even know what to believe anymore  :runaway:

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1453 on: March 25, 2012, 09:48:29 PM »
do not care this is combo season folks. soak it up

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1454 on: March 25, 2012, 10:11:31 PM »
anyone feel like copy/pasting Cassidy's article re: Frank/Currie?

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1455 on: March 25, 2012, 10:20:09 PM »
anyone feel like copy/pasting Cassidy's article re: Frank/Currie?

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Currie better make nice or Frank will leave and make sure everyone knows it was Currie's fault

Cass complained about not getting return calls from Currie, someone from Frank's corner replied "welcome to frank's world"

Cass and Frank are not bff's.  Anyone know this back story?

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1456 on: March 25, 2012, 10:22:07 PM »
anyone feel like copy/pasting Cassidy's article re: Frank/Currie?

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Here is my man Rob's article about the latest. He really does a great job for us...

March 25, 2012

Robert Cassidy, commentary
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Talk about it in Wabash Station
It's rarely the initial explosion that gets you. It's the radiation. It's the fallout.

If Frank Martin begrudgingly stomps away from Kansas State for South Carolina, a place where basketball comes sometime following the afterthought, the message sent by the move would only be the start, a warning shot aimed at Wildcat director of athletics John Currie and his administration.

This is Martin we're talking about. Don't expect him to go quietly, if he goes. His bus to the airport will have trouble moving because of the bodies stacked underneath it.

   
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Athletics director John Currie has changed K-State athletic finances for the better, but will he keep basketball coach Frank Martin at the school?
This is Martin, a man who still can't discuss the situation that led to his removal as coach at Miami Senior High School 14 years ago without becoming agitated. The events that led to his mentor Bob Huggins' firing at Cincinnati? Don't even get him started.

That's to say there's not a drop of water under any of his bridges.

And the bridge that links him to Currie's leadership at K-State will be hit with a flamethrower should he feel it can no longer exist. No one will bother to fiddle while it burns. Martin is truly the Michael Jordan of grudge holding. Not only is he great, he makes everyone around him better.

"It's not about money anymore," one source close to Martin said on Saturday, emphasizing this was about the Martin's relationship with Currie. "I don't know if he'll go (to South Carolina)."

But where and when he goes are unimportant in the larger scope. How he goes will mean much more.

Martin remains the basketball coach at Kansas State, but it's already begun. After complaining via text that I couldn't get Currie to return a phone call on Saturday night, a response from a different member of Martin's camp appeared immediately.

"Welcome to Frank's world," the message said. A relationship that has always been somewhat fractured is in the process of crumbling.

The words will only become louder and less guarded if Martin actually packs up his office. He prides himself on speaking his mind. The trait is a breath of fresh air until he feels you've wronged him. Then, it can suffocate you.

Truth be told, my personal relationship with Martin isn't what it once was. These days, I'm usually one of his least favorite people in the interview room.

He tells people how he feels about me. I tell people how I feel about him. We're not each other's biggest fans. So be it. As two men with jobs to do, we find ways to make it work.

Currie better find a way to the same, and do so immediately.

   
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Frank Martin's relationship with his athletics director is fractured, but can it be fixed or will he leave K-State?
If he doesn't, word on Martin's distaste for Currie and the Wildcat administration will spread in basketball circles like news of the previous night's escapades in a fraternity house. Details will emerge. Dirty laundry will be tossed everywhere. That's the larger danger, and Currie better realize it.

Have fun finding a suitable replacement when the coach everyone views as one of the most honest men in the profession is occasionally taking aim at your face for the next 10 years. That hiring process ought to be a cinch.

Martin is a wonderful basketball coach. He's notched more than 20 victories in each of his five seasons in Manhattan. He wins NCAA Tournament games. He attracts national attention, recruits high-caliber athletes and his teams appear on national TV. This isn't about John Currie or anyone's feelings. This is about Kansas State, and it's time for Currie to take note.

Martin's colorful, often profane style may cut against Currie's vision of what a coach should be, but it leads to success and attention for the program. That all adds up to revenue. Lots of it.

See, that's the other thing about my own strained relationship with Martin: I respect him greatly despite our clash of styles. It's not my job to keep him in Manhattan. But if it were, I wouldn't let personal feelings complicate things. He sells Currie's tickets. He gives him bullet points for successful fundraising presentations. He wins over fans and makes his boss' job exponentially easier.

The unfinished basketball training facility that now sits in front of Bramlage Coliseum might be Currie's fundraising baby, but it's Martin's doing. It's time that Currie do something in return:

Change.

It's that simple. Change. Or at least pretend to. Then do what you do best: Sell it.

Get on the phone and schedule a meeting. Give Martin more money. But, more importantly, make sure your coach knows things will be different. No more micro managing. No more asking him to write letters to fans about swearing. No more snap decisions to suspend his players without Martin's input.

Make promises. Make concessions. Let him have control. Then, have a press conference, announce a contract extension and deny that a rift ever existed. Make the media and your fans look dumb as you and your smiling coach lob compliments at each other from behind a podium.

Nobody will mind the ruse. Really, they won't.

Winning is the only thing that makes people happy, and Martin does just that. Don't beg, just change. Because hiring a new basketball coach is only good for an athletic director if that coach is an upgrade. And best wishes on finding one that will be viewed as more successful than Martin by K-State fans or the national media.

Just remember, the decline of a major program on your watch isn't so good for the old resume.

It's in Currie's nature to pay so much attention to details that he becomes a nit-picking annoyance to his coaches. It's not difficult to see the larger picture, though. And that, now more than ever, is needed to save his relationship with Martin.

Is it kissing up? Maybe. But it's necessary. It sure beats the mushroom cloud that will appear should an angry Martin board a plane for South Carolina.

Nobody wants to deal with that, especially not John Currie.

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1457 on: March 25, 2012, 10:27:27 PM »
Thanks creepy cat... it's a good article
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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1458 on: March 25, 2012, 10:37:10 PM »
Thanks creepy cat... it's a good article

I know we're supposed to hate gpc and stuff, but I find myself enjoying many of Rob's tweets/stories.

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1459 on: March 25, 2012, 10:39:13 PM »
Thanks creepy cat... it's a good article

I know we're supposed to hate gpc and stuff, but I find myself enjoying many of Rob's tweets/stories.

I think the mods support Rob.

I do, at least.

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1460 on: March 25, 2012, 10:40:53 PM »
Thanks creepy cat... it's a good article

I know we're supposed to hate gpc and stuff, but I find myself enjoying many of Rob's tweets/stories.

I think the mods support Rob.

I do, at least.

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1461 on: March 25, 2012, 10:45:47 PM »
Thanks creepy cat... it's a good article

wow. it's not good. it's great.

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1462 on: March 25, 2012, 10:49:58 PM »
You guys are stupid for liking Cassidy.  That was truly horrible.  "I got a text.  'Welcome to Frank's world,' it said.  I don't have to tell you what that means.  FRANK IS ON THE VERGE OF MICHAEL JORDAN GRUDGE BOMBING THE eff OUT OF EVERYONE IN THE PATH OF HIS BUS TO THE AIRPORT UNTIL THEY ARE rough ridin' DEAD AS eff!" 

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1463 on: March 25, 2012, 10:51:17 PM »
Thanks creepy cat... it's a good article

I know we're supposed to hate gpc and stuff, but I find myself enjoying many of Rob's tweets/stories.

goEMAW.com has ALWAYS been pro-Cassidy.  Always.

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Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1464 on: March 25, 2012, 10:52:42 PM »
You guys are stupid for liking Cassidy.  That was truly horrible.  "I got a text.  'Welcome to Frank's world,' it said.  I don't have to tell you what that means.  FRANK IS ON THE VERGE OF MICHAEL JORDAN GRUDGE BOMBING THE eff OUT OF EVERYONE IN THE PATH OF HIS BUS TO THE AIRPORT UNTIL THEY ARE rough ridin' DEAD AS eff!"

I dont understand your opinion because your review of that article made it sound absolutely awesome.

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1465 on: March 25, 2012, 10:55:34 PM »
You guys are stupid for liking Cassidy.

why?

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1466 on: March 25, 2012, 10:58:11 PM »
Cassidy is right.  It usually is the radiation that gets you.

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1467 on: March 25, 2012, 11:01:05 PM »
meh. Pete, daris, kk, etc. said what cassidy said far more eloquently and like a week ago.

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1468 on: March 25, 2012, 11:04:23 PM »
meh. Pete, daris, kk, etc. said what cassidy said far more eloquently and like a week ago.

Manbeck said the same thing in the Mercury in townie paper reporting style.

Go make us a friggin sandwich cassidy.


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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1469 on: March 25, 2012, 11:05:27 PM »
meh. Pete, daris, kk, etc. said what cassidy said far more eloquently and like a week ago.

Manbeck said the same thing in the Mercury in townie paper reporting style.

Go make us a friggin sandwich cassidy.



Yeah, that would have been nice to read if I was a subscriber. Give me a friggin break, merc.

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1470 on: March 25, 2012, 11:20:20 PM »
meh. Pete, daris, kk, etc. said what cassidy said far more eloquently and like a week ago.

Manbeck said the same thing in the Mercury in townie paper reporting style.

Go make us a friggin sandwich cassidy.

yes. 100% with what kk said. that does not discount either though. they both deserve credit, as do the people that employ them for allowing it i think.

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1471 on: March 25, 2012, 11:27:28 PM »
meh. Pete, daris, kk, etc. said what cassidy said far more eloquently and like a week ago.

Manbeck said the same thing in the Mercury in townie paper reporting style.

Go make us a friggin sandwich cassidy.

yes. 100% with what kk said. that does not discount either though. they both deserve credit, as do the people that employ them for allowing it i think.

It does take going out on a limb a bit to jab at the AD like that when you're already not on good terms.  So, I'll give them credit for that.

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1472 on: March 25, 2012, 11:29:21 PM »
That's a good point Panjandrum.  I guess I do feel a little more liberated on goEMAW.com to call people out under my screen name than I otherwise might as an intrepid reporter covering the Kansas State sports beat.

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1473 on: March 25, 2012, 11:44:38 PM »
Yes, good job of getting played by Frank's people, small timey reporters.

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Re: Frank watch 2012:
« Reply #1474 on: March 25, 2012, 11:46:14 PM »
Yes, good job of getting played by Frank's people, small timey reporters.

Do you want to do more gagksu posts?  Now seems like a good time.