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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: 420seriouscat69 on January 29, 2019, 03:56:38 PM
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The cheating has caught up with Self. oscar is out recruiting him this season.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings/
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When you can buy the best ingredients you can make some great food.
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Off topic, but why does that site not list Jacob Pullen as a Kstate recruit?
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Off topic, but why does that site not list Jacob Pullen as a Kstate recruit?
I don't think it was around then.
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Off topic, but why does that site not list Jacob Pullen as a Kstate recruit?
I don't think it was around then.
Cartier Martin and Clent Stewart are listed. Pullen is the only "name" I can think of that isn't listed.
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Free Silvio!!
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KU without Dok is not a very good team, I'm sad to say.
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KU without Dok is not a very good team, I'm sad to say.
Ya'll had a nice run.
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If someone has to take the torch, I hope it's KSU. You'll probably be mean dickheads about it, though :frown:
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Not me, Spracs! :cheers:
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Kinda sad that this boards best poster is a KU man, no offense on it being sad Spracne
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And TBT really hates him for some reason. What an enjoyable poster. Maybe he imagines beems when he posts and blacks out or something. :dunno:
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Thanks boys. Make us proud!
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@Spracne can I blackout inside with mad rage when you guys beat us on Tuesday, but still be friends on the outside world/internet? I kinda need it, bud.
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Hey, it's just a game. No hard feelings. I'm pretty checked out, anyway.
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can't blame the loss of one player when his reserves were all top recruits.
the real issue is self has lost control of himself, the team, the program. sad to see.
i wonder how many titles oscar would have won with self's players the last 10 years. i'd put the over/under at 2.
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KU hasn’t had to fire a basketball coach in 30 years, will be interesting to see how they handle it.
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If someone has to take the torch, I hope it's KSU. You'll probably be mean dickheads about it, though :frown:
Damn straight we will. How many years of BS have we had to put up with from the KU tshirt fans.
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KU will still win the Big 12 this year. Might be a tie, but they will still win.
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LMAO at ku struggling, they still have the most talented roster in the big 12
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the fact that they lost to texas on Kansas day really irks me. They should change the universities name because of that
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We've all seen this movie, and we all know how it ends. #15stra15ht
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LMAO at ku struggling, they still have the most talented roster in the big 12
No they don't, they're crap, may not even finish top 4. Iowa State pretty clearly has the most talent. If Bill Self had our roster they'd be two games up and I'm not even taking a shot at oscar oscar.
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Yeah, we've got a bunch of inexperienced youth. We're down our most important player. And our senior leadership is motherfucking LeGerry Vick
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We have no true post players, but at least we also have no one who can shoot 3s, so...
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LMAO at ku struggling, they still have the most talented roster in the big 12
No they don't, they're crap, may not even finish top 4. Iowa State pretty clearly has the most talent. If Bill Self had our roster they'd be two games up and I'm not even taking a shot at oscar oscar.
Come on now...
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They're 5th now and only 1 game ahead of UT. I think Baylor will crash at some point, but it hasn't happened yet.
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Calling them crap is a bit much, as they have the best player in the conference. However, if you don't allow them dribble penetration and don't let them spread you out they will struggle to score. As spracne said they can't shoot, unfortunately for them they don't have anyone to dump it inside to for easy buckets either.
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They're 5th now and only 1 game ahead of UT. I think Baylor will crash at some point, but it hasn't happened yet.
They are also only 1/2 game behind 1st place with 11 games left to play in conference. Bill Self has plenty of time not only to win the conference, but to win it by 2+ games.
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KU wins league by 2 games.
I will not hear another word about it.
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This year feels different, from my perspective.
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De Sousa done.
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"In my 30-plus years of coaching college basketball, I have never witnessed such a mean-spirited and vindictive punishment against a young man who did nothing wrong," Self said in a statement. "To take away his opportunity to play college basketball is shameful and a failure of the NCAA.
:surprised:
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This year feels different, from my perspective.
Because you don't believe in voodoo, curses, just because, and other various nonsense. You have the best coach, but for the first time since the Jamaal Tinsley/Marcus Fizer cyclones, KU doesn't have the best roster.
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https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1091482143325339649
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DeSousa doesn't deserve this, but KU deserves all of this.
Every. Single. Bit.
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DeSousa doesn't deserve this
Why not?
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DeSousa doesn't deserve this
Why not?
2 years seems kind of excessive to me.
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https://247sports.com/college/maryland/Article/Maryland-Basketball-Booster-Allegedly-Paid-Silvio-De-Sousa-123186129/ :kstategrad:
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DeSousa doesn't deserve this
Why not?
2 years seems kind of excessive to me.
I'm going to guess that they went two years because the guardians were being uncooperative and KU were attempting to smoke screen the NCAA with attempting plausible deniability. This doesn't appear to be a simple case of a kid receiving impermissible benefits from a booster. This is the guardians, multiple schools, and intermediaries shopping services, I think he's lucky to have any eligibility at all.
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i think the 06/07 ut roster was better
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DeSousa doesn't deserve this
Why not?
2 years seems kind of excessive to me.
I'm going to guess that they went two years because the guardians were being uncooperative and KU were attempting to smoke screen the NCAA with attempting plausible deniability. This doesn't appear to be a simple case of a kid receiving impermissible benefits from a booster. This is the guardians, multiple schools, and intermediaries shopping services, I think he's lucky to have any eligibility at all.
All fair points. Maybe it just seems excessive to me because I don't recall someone every getting 2 years.
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i think the 06/07 ut roster was better
Wasn't Brad Buckner a starter on that team? That's like us staring LuCo in 09-10.
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Really hate to see The Man keeping KU basketball down like this.
Every year KU is a victim of some kind of jackbooting by The Man
Just wish those big city agents and Big Shoe ruffians would quit picking on those bumpkins at KU and subsequently getting The Man involved.
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They are also only 1/2 game behind 1st place with 11 games left to play in conference. Bill Self has plenty of time not only to win the conference, but to win it by 2+ games.
^this
We've seen this all before. We're not even halfway through the regular season.
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Seeing how they handled Tech with a fresh bounce to their step (almost like the De Sousa thing gave them a spark), I predict KU sweeps KSU this year and wins another Big 12 title.
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Seeing how they handled Tech with a fresh bounce to their step (almost like the De Sousa thing gave them a spark), I predict KU sweeps KSU this year and wins another Big 12 title.
Sad but true. :frown:
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Seeing how they handled Tech with a fresh bounce to their step (almost like the De Sousa thing gave them a spark), I predict KU sweeps KSU this year and wins another Big 12 title.
Saturday was like all blowouts. Kinda weird.
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We have no true post players, but at least we also have no one who can shoot 3s, so...
Mak is as pure a post player this team has besides James Love.
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Vick :frown:
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Lol what a dumpster fire that program has become.
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Lot of adversity.
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Hey guys. Long time, no post. Back at it with some super insidery info.
Word from my source who was at practice today is that Self booted Vick from the team “because he’s a disrespectful bad person.”
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Nice to hear from you JTb
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Hey guys. Long time, no post. Back at it with some super insidery info.
Word from my source who was at practice today is that Self booted Vick from the team “because he’s a disrespectful bad person.”
hey, irl friend johnny thunderbone, I respect you.
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In lawrentucky, playing badly against ksu cats is more disqualifying than kicking women in the face
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Hey guys. Long time, no post. Back at it with some super insidery info.
Word from my source who was at practice today is that Self booted Vick from the team “because he’s a disrespectful bad person.”
LGV aka DAsshole currently on an LOA
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At what point does Jayhawk nation start calling for Long’s head? Les Miles needs to be their savior.
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In lawrentucky, playing badly against ksu cats is more disqualifying than kicking women in the face
To be fair, they kind of expected the one to happen
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i'm gonna go with ksu defense literally made vick quit his basketball career
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They are going to turn on Self so fast. He's also too good of a coach to take it. When he bounces anything could happen. We could very likely be looking at the end of a very elite run for KU bball. They will never be sustained bad/ mediocre, but they will certainly regress to the mean at some point and I think it will be sooner than later.
Will be hilarious.
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The odds that KU's next coach can extend the run of 3 coaches that last 35 years are a little on the long side. Not saying it couldn't happen, but I don't see anybody out there like Bill Self that's going to be available.
I'm Seff I'd bolt, he can't do anything more for KU fans, some of whom are losing their damn minds even though they're still in contention for another Dr. Pepper.
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Spurs job should open up late spring, would think Bill will be the next coach there. Hoiberg would be a good pickup for them if he doesn’t take an NBA job.
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Spurs job should open up late spring, would think Bill will be the next coach there. Hoiberg would be a good pickup for them if he doesn’t take an NBA job.
Can you imagine the reaction from Cyclone fans? I can, and it’s very entertaining.
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Becky Hammon will be the next Spurs coach
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Spurs job should open up late spring, would think Bill will be the next coach there. Hoiberg would be a good pickup for them if he doesn’t take an NBA job.
Can you imagine the reaction from Cyclone fans? I can, and it’s very entertaining.
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self has no reason to leave the flaw on the kaw
especially for the nba
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Boscoe Boys discussing possible Seff-Vick-Mom-Security incident in the MHK/Bramlage Monday night.
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I'm looking forward to watching attendance/ticket prices fall their in Lawrence. All those years of attendance smack and if the trend continues, they'll drop like flies.
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I'm not saying this is God smiting KU but at some point Self is going to have to pay for his heathenous ways. I think it says something like that in the bible. :cyclist: :whistle1: :cyclist: (ftp://:cyclist: :whistle1: :cyclist:)
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I think Self is probably in a similar boat to Stoops. Raised the expectations for an entitled fanbase to the point that they want him fired every time he loses a game. Conference championships are no longer enough. He hasn't threatened to leave enough to keep the fanbase from taking him for granted.
Add in NCAA violations coming down for Self and he'll be getting out soon. No reason to put up with this crap when he can take another job that is just as good, be it this season or "retiring" and picking his spot later.
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KU still gonna win the Big 12.
Until something else actually happens, this is my answer.
Pretty fun to see how the fanbase reacts when there is a hint of "adversity" tho
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Stop talking like a battered housewife, @WillieWatanabe! They're going down this year!
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In other news, inside a little PV "looker" there was an incident on Tuesday night. Currently KU Karla is paying down the Best Buy Credit Card so that KU Karl can pick up a new 36 inch Insignia TV on the way home.
Karla will have no further comment on the matter.
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What would make you take the field over KU to end the B12 title streak?
I would need a two game lead with four to go by a team without KU left on the schedule.
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I NEED MORE DAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm not saying this is God smiting KU but at some point Self is going to have to pay for his heathenous ways. I think it says something like that in the bible. :cyclist: :whistle1: :cyclist: (ftp://:cyclist: :whistle1: :cyclist:)
I've been waiting for this since the summer of 2000 when one of his former staff members told me about him cheating on his wife multiple times.
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I think I saw on the phog boards where they asked the last time KU wasn't ranked and I had no clue they weren't ranked in 07-08.
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Oh cool, I see we're all jerking each other off ITT. Can I get a hand?
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Oh cool, I see we're all jerking each other off ITT. Can I get a hand?
Here's two
:lynchmob:
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Oh cool, I see we're all jerking each other off ITT. Can I get a hand?
Here's two
:lynchmob:
2 more :bball:
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Oh cool, I see we're all jerking each other off ITT. Can I get a hand?
Here's two
:lynchmob:
2 more :bball:
I got a couple for ya :combofan:
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Oh cool, I see we're all jerking each other off ITT. Can I get a hand?
Vick might give you a foot :dunno:
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I mean, since 2002 KU’s average NCAA seed is like 1.87. That’s unreal.
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Stop talking like a battered housewife, @WillieWatanabe! They're going down this year!
At this point there's no justifiable basketball reason to think that they will win the league. They don't have anything close to the best talent, they can't win on the road, and they're losing scholarship players every other day. I'd get freaking out that they'd make up 2 games with 8 to play if they had the talent to do so. If K-State goes 5-4, they have to go 6-2 to tie, that's preposterous.
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I expect ku will at least tie for the league, their remaining schedule is a combination of at home and teams that suck on the road. 12-6 to get a piece of first maybe 13-5
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I expect ku will at least tie for the league, their remaining schedule is a combination of at home and teams that suck on the road. 12-6 to get a piece of first maybe 13-5
I actually think this is the year it ends. And that's ok.
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I expect ku will at least tie for the league, their remaining schedule is a combination of at home and teams that suck on the road. 12-6 to get a piece of first maybe 13-5
I too saw their remaining schedule and let out a sigh.
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I expect ku will at least tie for the league, their remaining schedule is a combination of at home and teams that suck on the road. 12-6 to get a piece of first maybe 13-5
I too saw their remaining schedule and let out a sigh.
You're forgetting the fact that we're mediocre, though.
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KU will win the league until they are mathematically eliminated, saying otherwise is straight hawkwash.
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I expect ku will at least tie for the league, their remaining schedule is a combination of at home and teams that suck on the road. 12-6 to get a piece of first maybe 13-5
I too saw their remaining schedule and let out a sigh.
You're forgetting the fact that we're mediocre, though.
what games look like L's to you, I see lots on KSU schedule
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I expect ku will at least tie for the league, their remaining schedule is a combination of at home and teams that suck on the road. 12-6 to get a piece of first maybe 13-5
I too saw their remaining schedule and let out a sigh.
You're forgetting the fact that we're mediocre, though.
Best 1-6 road team, missing two starters in college basketball history
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never underestimate how shitty the big 12 is
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I expect ku will at least tie for the league, their remaining schedule is a combination of at home and teams that suck on the road. 12-6 to get a piece of first maybe 13-5
I too saw their remaining schedule and let out a sigh.
You're forgetting the fact that we're mediocre, though.
what games look like L's to you, I see lots on KSU schedule
They've already lost to Arizona State, Texas, and West Virginia, and close home wins with New Mexico State and Stanford. You're and anyone else are rough ridin' fools if you think any game on their schedule is automatic.
Also you can think we'd lose every game on our schedule and KU still wouldn't be favorites to win the league. I'm starting to get more than mildly annoyed at you fuckers and your jinxes and curses bullshit. You don't want to think we're going to win the league, fine, flood aggie will.
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never underestimate how shitty the big 12 is
So what? Even if the league is shitty, it seems rough ridin' stupid to insist the team current in fifth place is going to all of a sudden run a train on said shitty league when they have a loss to the worst team in the league and they can't keep players in the line up.
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I forgot they already had 4 losses. Honestly going 6-2 in the back half seems impossible. That would be 12-6 and wouldn’t be enough to even tie. I think we can officially say the streak is over.
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ksu needs to finish 6-3, pretty tall order, can they yes, will they, we'll see
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ksu winning at afh would prolly seal ku not being in the mix
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I forgot they already had 4 losses. Honestly going 6-2 in the back half seems impossible. That would be 12-6 and wouldn’t be enough to even tie. I think we can officially say the streak is over.
Just when MIR had me convinced that jinxes aren’t real, you go and jinx it.
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I still think KU has a realistic chance of a shared title whether it be to ISU, KSU, or a both. I’m not counting Self out until the math proves they can’t do it. Plus, their schedule is very favorable.
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I still think KU has a realistic chance of a shared title whether it be to ISU, KSU, or a both. I’m not counting Self out until the math proves they can’t do it. Plus, their schedule is very favorable.
yeah, they have the easiest path for sure
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They need to go 7-1 to get to 13 wins to have a shot at a tie bros. The math doesn’t work.
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Just accept it. They're gonna win it. End of story.
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So rough ridin' average
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So rough ridin' average
That's what Mrs. Manpow5 tells me
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clones piss down leg today at home
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they're so pissed right now... :frown:
https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Board/103719/Contents/If-KState-wins-the-big-12-outright-128940136/
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EMAW (Every Mating Animal Worried)
:D
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they're so pissed right now... :frown:
https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Board/103719/Contents/If-KState-wins-the-big-12-outright-128940136/
I feel sorry for anyone near StLCrimsonAndBlue, that dude seems very abusive right now. Very sad.
I do love the oscar and Bill comparos, though. Like football and basketball are apples to apples.
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Apparently theres a full fledged meme/gif war going on over on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/apintr/gif_war_im_beginning_to_feel_like_a_meme_god/
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Apparently theres a full fledged meme/gif war going on over on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/apintr/gif_war_im_beginning_to_feel_like_a_meme_god/
best thing from that link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LyKCCmSzAE&feature=youtu.be&t=40
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My God, the 8 Mile gif might be the most thorough and complete kill shot in internet history
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They have a thread going on about whether K-State can win the Natty. And one of their brightest stars posts this.
They're not even going to make the final four.
I got a feeling they're going to end up with a 3seed and chit their pants in either the second round or sweet 16
I umm, don't think they have any idea how the tourney or seeding actually works.
3 SEED K-STATE CHITS IN PANTS AGAINST 2 SEED NORTH CAROLINA IN SWEET 16. LOFL AT K-STATE.
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I tried to be a good Ad Astra Amigo but fell asleep
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Each team took turns pissing the game down their leg last night until KU finally won it in OT.
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That end of regulation possession by tcu, they deserved to lose :sdeek:
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That end of regulation possession by tcu, they deserved to lose :sdeek:
They don't have anyone who can get their own shot and it showed there.
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That end of regulation possession by tcu, they deserved to lose :sdeek:
They don't have anyone who can get their own shot and it showed there.
Then call a TO a draw up a play! I hated it
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Not using the timeout is fine with me until the possession was completely going to crap. They could have called the timeout with 4 seconds left and drawn something up halfway decent while their player panicked at the elbow.
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They should have got Bane the ball in the final minute and a half. Dixon let that one get completely away from him. Bad job by him.
Both teams also left a ton of opportunity at the FT line. KU must have missed 3 or more front ends of 1 and 1's and TCU was nearly as bad in the double bonus.
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Not using the timeout is fine with me until the possession was completely going to crap. They could have called the timeout with 4 seconds left and drawn something up halfway decent while their player panicked at the elbow.
I agree but I'm not sure how good the play would have been. They were scoring by getting KU spread and scrambling to recover on help, there wasn't time for that. I really don't think much of Alex Robinson.
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My God, the 8 Mile gif might be the most thorough and complete kill shot in internet history
wait till you see his follow up
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My God, the 8 Mile gif might be the most thorough and complete kill shot in internet history
wait till you see his follow up
Iowa State as Cheddar Bob, lol
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My God, the 8 Mile gif might be the most thorough and complete kill shot in internet history
wait till you see his follow up
Iowa State as Cheddar Bob, lol
Every detail about that gif is amazing. The flow is fantastic, and for me the way he picked out teams for the little side scenes, I mean Mizzou and the sneer between Papa Doc and Wink. Even Kentucky fan in the crowd.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/kansas-fears-formal-ncaa-investigation-stemming-from-fbi-case-involving-college-basketball/
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/kansas-fears-formal-ncaa-investigation-stemming-from-fbi-case-involving-college-basketball/
On the outside they are confident and quiet but inside the administration they are freaking out. The fact they were instructed to not share info with Self is a huge tell.
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why would they be concerned if they're the victims?
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https://twitter.com/BarstoolKU/status/1096061087475216385?s=19
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:surprised:
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From a squak board watching our game last night...
If I was a ref I would give Weber probably 20 technicals a game for being on the floorWhy they just run by and ignore him is mind blowing.
I don't have the rules of basketball in front of me, but is 20 technicals a lot? Also, if all the referees ignore it, is it still a foul?
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Squawks need to take accountability rather than blaming refs. Their dudes should be running into him and forcing the refs to call it.
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Nate Power would run into oscar if he were a squawk basketball player.
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Nate Powers would run into oscar if he were a squawk basketball player.
FIFY.
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Thanks.
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Nate Power would run into oscar if he were a squawk basketball player.
Nate Powers would be a Squack legend with a statue next to Naismith if he was a Squack fan and did what he did to a KSU player.
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Interestingly enough, I've met Nate Power's mother. She said that Nate took a figurative beating from the chicken wing incident. She was also of high enough character to not call out Massa Seff for being a vagina.
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lamelo talking to ku? id love to see that, would be hilarious. we'll suck anyways so doesn't change anything for us.
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Recruiting players that have extremely questionable eligibility seems to be working out well for them.
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two birds one stone :drool:
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Have had several KU friends hoping it doesn't happen. They want nothing to do with that Family
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If we lose Monday oscar should.be fired.
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If we lose Monday oscar should.be fired.
Very HBBIQ post right there.
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If we lose Monday oscar should.be fired.
You obviously haven't watched this movie before
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thinking about heading over to Bramlage East tomorrow. Should I?
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Depends on if you have the stomach to deal with how rundown Lawrence and the old barn have become.
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A little vaporub under the nose will help.
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This already great thread will be even greater when Self bounces on those clowns.
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What a tough year for Bill.
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Lightfoot is an interesting player to me. He apparently doesn’t get a lot of minutes and his stats aren’t great but for whatever reason I feel like he’s always there to make the plays that really get under my skin.
What I’m saying is he’s probably gonna go off tomorrow.
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Scared we’re gonna get beaked tomorrow by 11. :ohno:
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Scared we’re gonna get beaked tomorrow by 11. :ohno:
We are going to catwalk you.
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Scared we’re gonna get beaked tomorrow by 11. :ohno:
We are going to catwalk you.
HOLD UP
You are back to being a Hawks fan? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
You were just a Horns fan :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
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Wow. Such a puzzler.
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I mean, like, pick a team and stick with it. :lol:
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You're such a dumbass, TBT. I hold degrees from both. KU is still #1 in my heart, but I'm also allowed to cheer for UT. Thank you, next.
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You're such a dumbass, TBT. I hold degrees from both. KU is still #1 in my heart, but I'm also allowed to cheer for UT. Thank you, next.
Fair. So the masters is from UT? From my own experience, grad students who transfer between schools of the same conference have a sort of "code".
The school they really respect(First degree), then kind of a bandwagoney thing with their second school, depending on how good they are at sports. You fit a pretty lol category. I don't remember reading ANYTHING about "your horns" during football season. :lol: :lol: :lol:
It's a selective "I root for the team" thing.
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Lightfoot is an interesting player to me. He apparently doesn’t get a lot of minutes and his stats aren’t great but for whatever reason I feel like he’s always there to make the plays that really get under my skin.
What I’m saying is he’s probably gonna go off tomorrow.
he was also a 4 star on rivals. like ku can't complain about losing a player or two when they have 4 star players as backups. the real truth is self has lost control of the program.
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Self will ditch their asses within 14 months.
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Lightfoot is an interesting player to me. He apparently doesn’t get a lot of minutes and his stats aren’t great but for whatever reason I feel like he’s always there to make the plays that really get under my skin.
What I’m saying is he’s probably gonna go off tomorrow.
he was also a 4 star on rivals. like ku can't complain about losing a player or two when they have 4 star players as backups. the real truth is self has lost control of the program.
Really makes you question his ability to coach vs simply out recruit this conference.
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I HATE Mitch lightfoot
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I HATE Mitch lightfoot
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:opcat: (ftp://:opcat:)
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This won't last forever. They will suck someday. I will be there.
8 years ago. Still waiting. Patiently. In no hurry. :users:
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Lightfoot is an interesting player to me. He apparently doesn’t get a lot of minutes and his stats aren’t great but for whatever reason I feel like he’s always there to make the plays that really get under my skin.
What I’m saying is he’s probably gonna go off tomorrow.
He is their blue collar player. Probably best rebounder per minute on their team.
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Lightfoot is an interesting player to me. He apparently doesn’t get a lot of minutes and his stats aren’t great but for whatever reason I feel like he’s always there to make the plays that really get under my skin.
What I’m saying is he’s probably gonna go off tomorrow.
He is their blue collar player. Probably best rebounder per minute on their team.
And he'll probably go 4-5 from behind the arc or some crazy crap like that.
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I have no expectation to win tonight.
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Since midway through the conference season, I wanted us to get to AFH with a chance to kill their title streak in front of their home crowd. I certainly wouldn't expect us to do it, but it's an incredible opportunity.
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There is zero reason we shouldn't win this. There is 80 percent chance we don't
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This won't last forever. They will suck someday. I will be there.
8 years ago. Still waiting. Patiently. In no hurry. :users:
I made a point to keep the 2nd half of the Tech game on TV. Seeing KU run off the court is so rare.
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There is zero reason we shouldn't win this.
KU is 15-0 at home, K-State is 6-4 on the road.
As shitty as KU has looked on the road, they are still a very very good team at home.
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Scared we’re gonna get beaked tomorrow by 11. :ohno:
We are going to catwalk you.
:ROFL: great post, made me smile
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yes, great post by spracne
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Tonight is KU's super bowl, by far their most important game of the year, for their fans and players, for many reasons. K-State will get by far their best effort of the season.
KU by 7
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Tonight is KU's super bowl, by far their most important game of the year, for their fans and players, for many reasons. K-State will get by far their best effort of the season.
KU by 7
I actually heard they're giving away tickets at the Subway in Ltown to try and fill that dump of a stadium because people are jumping off the bandwagon quicker than Vick can rufie and punch a chick in the head..
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Tonight is KU's super bowl, by far their most important game of the year, for their fans and players, for many reasons. K-State will get by far their best effort of the season.
KU by 7
I actually heard they're giving away tickets at the Subway in Ltown to try and fill that dump of a stadium because people are jumping off the bandwagon quicker than Vick can rufie and punch a chick in the head..
To be fair, he kicked her in the head.
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Tonight is KU's super bowl, by far their most important game of the year, for their fans and players, for many reasons. K-State will get by far their best effort of the season.
KU by 7
I actually heard they're giving away tickets at the Subway in Ltown to try and fill that dump of a stadium because people are jumping off the bandwagon quicker than Vick can rufie and punch a chick in the head..
Nope, still the highest ticket on the market for a KU game. Some tickets can be had for close to $100 today, though.
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Since midway through the conference season, I wanted us to get to AFH with a chance to kill their title streak in front of their home crowd. I certainly wouldn't expect us to do it, but it's an incredible opportunity.
...and not one to be taken lightly.
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I hope oscar wears an all-black suit, because he is going to Self's funeral tonight.
Again.
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Each man coaching for his job tonight, should be intense.
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Simply put, we are going to put their dicks in the dirt.
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Barstool really hyping this game up
https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/we-are-one-game-away-from-the-craziest-streak-in-college-hoops-ending?fbclid=IwAR0DsLNA_7vcjkvoH5xWsk8ueZbz1uKf1csUuoroZWg3d1CXx6My0gOw4vo
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I HATE Mitch lightfoot
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Scooter Barry level hate...
Tom
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Haase
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Rex Walters
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Lightfoot looks like a nazi
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Lightfoot looks like a nazi
He looks like the early 40's era American nazi that would've showed up at that big rally at Madison Square G.
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3, 4, drillin threes on the floor
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Lightfoot is an interesting player to me. He apparently doesn’t get a lot of minutes and his stats aren’t great but for whatever reason I feel like he’s always there to make the plays that really get under my skin.
What I’m saying is he’s probably gonna go off tomorrow.
He is their blue collar player. Probably best rebounder per minute on their team.
And he'll probably go 4-5 from behind the arc or some crazy crap like that.
:peek:
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:users:
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Scared we’re gonna get beaked tomorrow by 11. :ohno:
:frown:
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You could tell the crowd really needed that one. I’m happy for our in-state bros.
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You could tell the crowd really needed that one. I’m happy for our in-state bros.
The two bro’s in the front row had the absolute night of their lives.
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They lost their crap when Wade fouled out with like 8 points.
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This team is hot garbage. That was embarrassing on so many levels.. Nice job seniors!
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Pretty embarrassing that those seniors got beat by a motley crew of freshmen and rejects.
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Embarrassing was losing by 20 to UT at home. This wasn’t that.
I’d put my money on KU at home in ANY game 2 days after they lose by 30 and their opponent wins by 40 the same day.
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You could tell the crowd really needed that one. I’m happy for our in-state bros.
The two bro’s in the front row had the absolute night of their lives.
Their lead snare drummer shed at least 45 lbs tonight.
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Embarrassing was losing by 20 to UT at home. This wasn’t that.
I’d put my money on KU at home in ANY game 2 days after they lose by 30 and their opponent wins by 40 the same day.
I'd put my money on this being the only time that confluence of events has ever happened.
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Draymond Lightfoot whooped our ass and KU made it into a Benz out of that Dotson.
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This win was necessary for KU, but not sufficient. We still need to win the next three games, including 2 on the road (where we are 5-7, I believe). In addition, we need both KSU and TTU to lose at least 1 each. Uphill battle.
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Pretty embarrassing that those seniors got beat by a motley crew of freshmen and rejects.
What? I can't hear you because my still in first place alarm is still going off because of still being in first place.
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Hey Spracne, pretty sure everyone here can count. But thanks for laying it all out like that you dweeb.
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Wow. That's awfully petty of you, after my sober and self-reflective take . . .
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By all means, keep waving that score card at me, tho
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Embarrassing was losing by 20 to UT at home. This wasn’t that.
I’d put my money on KU at home in ANY game 2 days after they lose by 30 and their opponent wins by 40 the same day.
I'd put my money on this being the only time that confluence of events has ever happened.
So you’re saying my method is 100% effective.
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Feeling great for Self right now. Had his team ready to play well enough to beat a better team at home tonight. This might not be the best for him long term though. I really think he’d have benefited from the potential outcry in Lawrence had KSU beat them.
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Embarrassing was losing by 20 to UT at home. This wasn’t that.
I’d put my money on KU at home in ANY game 2 days after they lose by 30 and their opponent wins by 40 the same day.
I'd put my money on this being the only time that confluence of events has ever happened.
So you’re saying my method is 100% effective.
Sure, in a post hawk ergo propter hawk kinda way . . .
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Beems was better at trolling the fan base but I appreciate your efforts spracs.
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Beems was better at trolling the fan base but I appreciate your efforts spracs.
I don't troll the fan base. That was directly addressed to cat for particular reasons you would not understand.
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Pretty embarrassing that those seniors got beat by a motley crew of freshmen and rejects.
It is, actually. Not embarrassing so much as frustrating.
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Draymond Lightfoot whooped our ass and KU made it into a Benz out of that Dotson.
:love: @michigancat
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This win was necessary for KU, but not sufficient. We still need to win the next three games, including 2 on the road (where we are 5-7, I believe). In addition, we need both KSU and TTU to lose at least 1 each. Uphill battle.
someone is coming for your job _FAN
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prior to tonight, i really thought he was gone, but hopefully this is the win that bill self needed to keep himself in lawrentucky for a few more years. what i'm saying is that tonight's squawk win will hurt their program in the long run.
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Hearing rumors that Self my bail for NBA after this season for a couple reasons...
1) Fresh start
2) Pressure of winning Big 12 again if he loses it this year
3) Possible sanctions on KU/Self from Adidas scandal - This might be the more likely reason. He will Pete Carroll this thing.
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prior to tonight, i really thought he was gone, but hopefully this is the win that bill self needed to keep himself in lawrentucky for a few more years. what i'm saying is that tonight's squawk win will hurt their program in the long run.
As long as Bill can manage beat the mild kittens, squawks will declare the season a success.
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prior to tonight, i really thought he was gone, but hopefully this is the win that bill self needed to keep himself in lawrentucky for a few more years. what i'm saying is that tonight's squawk win will hurt their program in the long run.
As long as Bill can manage beat the mild kittens, squawks will declare the season a success.
Last night was KU's superbowl, I bet a lot of fat women / white trash guys (majority of KU students) got laid after that one.
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prior to tonight, i really thought he was gone, but hopefully this is the win that bill self needed to keep himself in lawrentucky for a few more years. what i'm saying is that tonight's squawk win will hurt their program in the long run.
As long as Bill can manage beat the mild kittens, squawks will declare the season a success.
Last night was KU's superbowl, I bet a lot of fat women / white trash guys (majority of KU students) got laid after that one.
We'll know in 9 months.
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prior to tonight, i really thought he was gone, but hopefully this is the win that bill self needed to keep himself in lawrentucky for a few more years. what i'm saying is that tonight's squawk win will hurt their program in the long run.
As long as Bill can manage beat the mild kittens, squawks will declare the season a success.
Last night was KU's superbowl, I bet a lot of fat women / white trash guys (majority of KU students) got laid after that one.
We'll know in 9 months.
A bunch of white boys named Mitch coming to NEKS, November 2019.
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think you mean Mytch
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^^^ was hoping for a lol at this post.
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I did, just didn't post it, sorry.
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Hearing rumors that Self my bail for NBA after this season for a couple reasons...
1) Fresh start
2) Pressure of winning Big 12 again if he loses it this year
3) Possible sanctions on KU/Self from Adidas scandal - This might be the more likely reason. He will Pete Carroll this thing.
heard the same rumors from a ku fan. self searching for an nba job in preparation for the NCAA to drop the hammer.
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He's getting the Spurs gig.
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He's getting the Spurs gig.
I told you guys before, Becky Hammon is getting the Spurs gig, not Bill Self.
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He's getting the Spurs gig.
I told you guys before, Becky Hammon is getting the Spurs gig, not Bill Self.
No doubt Pop would prefer that, but he's not the decision-maker. I don't see him pulling an OBz to try to outlast when Seff will need a new job.
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General long weekend in KC observo's:
1. Tremendous amount of Rock Chalkers out and about and clearly not paying any attention to the KU vs Okie Lite game. Given up on the season already?
2. KU side of the family (2 actually attended KU out of 10 plus) openly cheering for Baylor (not gE'ing).
3. Lots of talk about KU recruiting, nary a mention of the Adidas issue. Conversed with an EMAW cousin (senior executive at well known KC based company, lots of Rock Chalkers report to him) and it was decided that nary a mention of the FBI issue would be made out of fear of disrupting a joyous family event and having the KU side of the family leave angry and early. It's our usual tact to only speak of KU in the most glowing of terms or nod approvingly as the KU side of the family prattles on about the glory of KU basketball (not gE'ing)
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JFC Sqwawks, go down with a little dignity:
TCU knows they have to win tonight to get a spot at the NCAA Tournament.
If you're in the DFW area, get tickets to that game. Root your heart for the Frogs...or Horned Frogs, whatever. Stupid mascot. Cheer them on like you've never cheered before. Figure out who's on their roster and start learning their chants. Bring an airgun to the game and start sounding it off when K-State players are at the free-throw line or about to shoot a jumper. Bring in bricks and throw them at Weber every time he acts like he can walk anywhere on the court during the game. Get arrested. We'll start a GoFundMe page to pay your legal
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They’re enraged, I’ve never seen a fan base so enraged and so desperately rooting for other teams
It’s . . . sad
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phog gems
Refs haven’t made a single call to help the home team tonight.
We can all thank Vick for us having to watch this dogshit game hoping some dogshit team upsets another dogshit team...
Dude should never set foot in lawrence again.
eff TCU
At this point it’s hard for me to even care.
After all the greasy turds we dropped this year, if we had somehow backed into another conference title in spite of all the injuries and suspensions and whatnot, I would have almost felt sorry for the rest of the conference. The fact that we even had a chance was making me wonder whether the conference as a whole is unworthy of our program.
It’s incredible. Outside of that Iowa State game, no one has gone off on K-State. Yeah, they’re good defensively but there are still open shots out there. Everyone just happens to brick them when playing K-State. Just the way the cookie crumbles this year I guess.
Of course TCU is missing all their open 3s. Against KU they made garbage guarded 3s.
This ballgame is over. What a classless effort by TCU bums.
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Basketball means so much to them :frown:
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The fact that we even had a chance was making me wonder whether the conference as a whole is unworthy of our program.
this might be the gemmiest gem of all gems
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I want to study the brain that deduced that point.
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A few more...
The "fix" is in. B12 doesn't like the look of KU winning the conference every year. Seeing an opportunity to stop the streak and everyone in on it.
For real NATIONAL TITLES are what matters conference titles mean nothing
Oh well, it's been a fun 14 years, we did something the 70's UCLA couldn't do, nothing will ever take that record away
Except maybe Adidas.
:lol:
Maybe we can take the Iowa State route and win the useless Big XII Tourney title and claim it crowns the true champion, or some kind of bullshit like that.
Let's storm the gates of Kelly's Westport!
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I was hoping someone would do gems!
But one was missed where some dude said something like "how is it that K-state teams always play like crap against them" or something like that. Was pretty lol, like yea, how does that happen almost every game? Reality can be hard to see sometimes when you're nose to nose w/ it.
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I would much rather get every team’s worst night instead of actually being good on defense anyway.
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Let's keep this thread warm. Tonight could be a treasure trove.
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Maybe we can take the Iowa State route and win the useless Big XII Tourney title and claim it crowns the true champion, or some kind of bullshit like that.
Let's storm the gates of Kelly's Westport!
This person should win a prize, that's great.
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Here's the actual verbiage
Why does every team suddenly become incompetent when they play K-State?
Yea, why is that?
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The fact that we even had a chance was making me wonder whether the conference as a whole is unworthy of our program.
this might be the gemmiest gem of all gems
Hall.
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I learned about STRA1G4T in the 1 thread. Am I understanding correctly? KU promoted the 2018-19 season by referencing the streak? And it looks like 2018-19 season actually ends the streak??? Wow.
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Oh well, it's been a fun 14 years, we did something the 70's UCLA couldn't do, nothing will ever take that record away
KU is so much better than UCLA was, they couldn't even win 14 titles in one decade.
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For real NATIONAL TITLES are what matters conference titles mean nothing
Oh well, it's been a fun 14 years, we did something the 70's UCLA couldn't do, nothing will ever take that record away
I'm so confused. :dunno:
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I mean, the PAC 12 did not and does not do shared titles, right? KU would have not won the conference (under the same circumstances as '70s UCLA) three times over their "streak" because of losing to the co-champion head to head. The streak is a rough ridin' sham, and always has been.
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Here's the actual verbiage
Why does every team suddenly become incompetent when they play K-State?
Yea, why is that?
it's more like why does KU become incompetent against every team except K-State
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Getting destroyed by OU.
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Getting destroyed by OU.
:ohno:
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Whether KU wins tonight or not, I bet Phog has some great Gems at the moment. I'll bet the farm they are blaming Vick.
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I don’t visit that forum, but what I HOPE they’re doing right now is drawing some inspiration from their in state bros in the WVU game.
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So, just the two of us I guess. Everyone else must be watching Wake.
As per usual, our Big XII opponent starts the game by shooting out of their minds.
9th out of tenth in three point shooting in the Big XII, except when they play us, of course.
:lol: These never get old.
Hitting every three they put up. No doubt vs KSU they will shoot in %20 range
:lol: :lol: We occupy so much real estate in their heads.
Beyond sick of this super bowl bullshit.
Or it’s senior night. Or you suck balls and taint on the road. Let’s go with super bowl.
Well there’s a quick double digit deficit. Guess I’ll head to bed, 4 am comes early.
I’m guessing.... turnpike tollbooth operator.
eff the teams in this league. Not one of them gives the effort against all the others they do against KU.
So you get the point but this super bowl stuff goes on for pages and pages.
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The charge call is BROKEN in CBB. BROKEN.
Outside of Allen....
I'm away from the house for a bit. How are the boys looking tonight?
I have easier access to a BBS than a score app. Thanks, and I’ll listen off the air.
Well, this game is over. This team has 2nd-round loss written all over it. At least most everyone will be back and better next season.
Second round? I like the optimism.
Oh Fran eff right off.
Go sit in the stands where you belong.
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It’s a sad way to end the streak. The team looks like they’re playing with zero energy and Bill Self looks like he’s done coaching for the game.
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Very enjoyable kdub ty
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Our team may have cerebral palsy this year.
:sdeek:
Lol this is worse than TCU last night
They didn’t play..... oh right. In their heads.
To be fair, if we have SDS as was planned, this team is very different. Losing SDS was a much bigger blow than losing doke.
Yes. If the $$$ pipeline has come through as it usually does.
We were due for a rough year. Everyone pull themselves up by there boots straps and buy football season tickets.
Bluewings Rising.
CLANK
(This guy posts “Clank” every time they miss a shot. Lotta posts.)
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I'm still upset we lost to that garbage.
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I'm still upset we lost to that garbage.
It's very embarrassing. OU looked like dog crap and should have won by 30 plus. The ref's didn't even want to give KU calls because they looked so bad.
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I'm still upset we lost to that garbage.
we were their superbowl
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I'm still upset we lost to that garbage.
And also that we didn’t win by more in Manhattan.
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Sounds like Popovich is about to hang it up with the Spurs. Kinda hoping Self gets offered the Spurs job by his old buddy RC Buford and takes it. The magical ride at KU is over. NCAA sanctions are sure to follow this abortion of a season. It’s goimg to get ugly. Probably time to reset.
:Wha:
Wtf was that end of the half play? You see better plays than that in special olympics games...
This is a different guy than the cerebral palsy guy.
I'm hugely disappointed with this team's performance, but I'm also realistic enough to know the law of averages catches up to everyone. Everyone.
Everybody. eff. Everyone.
First year since 1992 that I won’t have KU winning it all in my brackets. Sad
I hope this guy’s not in my office pool.
I'll say it, go Tech on Saturday, don't want the hayseeds (who despite tonight I'm still convinced we're better than) winning the league by themselves
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:love:
https://twitter.com/marchmadness/status/1103146988139438082?s=21
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I'm still upset we lost to that garbage.
It's pretty clear the pisshole gym is all KU has at this point.
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:love:
https://twitter.com/marchmadness/status/1103146988139438082?s=21
Can I get this on velvet?
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yes
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my favorite part is how ku fans are upset that teams try to beat them
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What part of shoveling involves looking and pointing like that?
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What part of shoveling involves looking and pointing like that?
"Hey, why don't we grab that backhoe"
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Guys, the streak was p impressive. I think we should all take a moment today and reflect on it.
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Had a squawk tell me this weekend that he's glad the streak is ended because the players were focused too much on it so maybe today should just be a big huge squawk party day?
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Had a squawk tell me this weekend that he's glad the streak is ended because the players were focused too much on it so maybe today should just be a big huge squawk party day?
it was becoming a burden. now they can just sit back and play hoops. you watch, they will make a run to the sweet 16
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Guys, the streak was p impressive. I think we should all take a moment today and reflect on it.
more like the $treak
i wish we could have cheated like them tbh
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Adida$$ started the streak.
The FBI ended it...
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:love:
https://twitter.com/marchmadness/status/1103146988139438082?s=21
Can I get this on velvet?
somebody do one where beard is digging and weber is mowing the grass around the grave
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it is kinda of a downer that the streak will end up being like 3 years after the NCAA is done with them....
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I'm still upset we lost to that garbage.
It's pretty clear the pisshole gym is all KU has at this point.
yes. they'll always have The PissBarn.
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Adida$$ started the streak.
The FBI ended it...
Streaks are super expensive. Dollars and souls. The next two to three years could be amazing to watch. With no other changes at all, the fan insecurity next season is going to be amaze.
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Apparently this is now the most important big12 tournament in history. They better win it or I'm nervous our squawk brethren will take drastic measures :frown:
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dont cry because its over, smile because it happened
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The Phog is a total dumpster fire right now. They're eating each other alive.
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I haven't thought of phog in ages. Many years, for real. Thinking about it now caused me to think of EarthdogFred. So, I looked him up. I saw that damn Jack Nicholson avi and irl loled.
So what does the team say when they break the huddle against Baylor?
"Win one of the next two and we can hang on to a #5 seed!!"
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My perfect (almost) scenario would be (a) don't win the Big XII (check), (b) lose in the 1st round of the Conference tournament, (c) lose in the 1st round of the NCAA, (d) NCAA comes down and crushes their smokes for AD violations.
You'd be able hear the wailing in China.
God what a great year that'd be.
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The fan base doesn’t deserve Self. Any KU fan under 35 basically has never tasted anything other than conference titles and massive tournament success. Honestly the entire fan base needs a stretch of mediocrity like Billy Gillespie at UK to bring them back to baseline.
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The fan base doesn’t deserve Self. Any KU fan under 35 basically has never tasted anything other than conference titles and massive tournament success. Honestly the entire fan base needs a stretch of mediocrity like Billy Gillespie at UK to bring them back to baseline.
He's currently at a junior college, so he's available!
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Honestly they deserve turdgeon
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They need another Jerod Haase who isn't afraid of that extra effort and skinned knees.
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KU signed their first contract with Adidas in Self's second season. That's when Self won his first Dr. Pepper.
The streak ended when the Adidas relationship hit a little snag.
Coincidence?
Great run, but the gig is up. Bill Self would do best to take that NCAA job, because if he sticks around, and he can't leverage Adidas anymore on the recruiting trail. KU T-Shirt Nation is going to eat that dude alive.
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I feel like this is all somehow the fault of that new Less whateverhisname is guy. I mean, could you design a better transition than taking down the internal competition?
Is KU a football school now?
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The Dye vs The Rug
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Lots of competing "Aw, shucks!" interviews between Massa and Less. Their intentional facade of being down home is befitting Lawrentucky.
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damn, crap is getting real
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26172472/sources-lsu-coach-wiretap-discussing-offer
seff is probably smarter than this tho by now
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Yeah, they were already good, but the ticket office brouhaha revealed which nooks and crannies were better than others.
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Mar 7, 8:48 AM
I stopped reading after he said John Wooden had the streak at UCLA for 13 years. UCLA had 3 different coaches during their streak. I think UCLA streak was more about paying players than great coaches.
From the phog... it's a post that really was not thought out, and may not age well.
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They have to be the most fragile egoed fan base on the planet. Not goemawing either. It's fascinating.
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It’s what happens when the majority of your fan base has never faced any real adversity
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Mar 7, 8:48 AM
I stopped reading after he said John Wooden had the streak at UCLA for 13 years. UCLA had 3 different coaches during their streak. I think UCLA streak was more about paying players than great coaches.
From the phog... it's a post that really was not thought out, and may not age well.
A comparison of 1964-75 UCLA teams to current era schools is silly.
Those UCLA teams only had to win 2 games to advance to a Final Four and they got to stay near West Coast playing the likes of Long Beach State, Santa Clara U, U of San Francisco (way after their Bill Russell , K.C. Jones teams), Utah State and Pacific U to advance to a Final Four.
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Yes, they had to win fewer games to win the NCAA tourney, but the bracket wasn’t full of bubble losers. Every team was their conference champion, iirc.
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Ts&Ps to the KU fan base. There are so many salty butt hurt posts on the Phog. I feel bad for them.
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Ts&Ps to the KU fan base. There are so many salty butt hurt posts on the Phog. I feel bad for them.
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The best thing about this whole season is Squeaky is solidified as the coach at KSuck for the next 5-10 years. Absolutely terrific news for KU fans.
Folks, there's a lot more over there but this is a family-oriented blog and I want to keep information about their vile rantings at a PG-13 level... Just tragic what this has done to them from a psychological standpoint.
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Gotta say, this past few days has been one of the greatest "not our rival" meltdowns I've ever seen.
Nothing says "not our rival" like 72 hours of explaining how (insert school name here) is not our rival.
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Gotta say, this past few days has been one of the greatest "not our rival" meltdowns I've ever seen.
Nothing says "not our rival" like 72 hours of explaining how (insert school name here) is not our rival.
I'm sure once it's out of their system, they'll start talking tons of sh1t on Tech too.
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Gotta say, this past few days has been one of the greatest "not our rival" meltdowns I've ever seen.
Nothing says "not our rival" like 72 hours of explaining how (insert school name here) is not our rival.
I'm sure once it's out of their system, they'll start talking tons of sh1t on Tech too.
Well, Mizzou is still their big rival. It was so huge back in the day that just about every year 10's of thousands of fans would arrive and stay at the football games dressed looking exactly like metal bleachers.
The last football game in the HUGE rivalry was played in front of 30,000 empty seats at Arrowhead Stadium, and would have left 5,000 empty seats had the game been played in Lawrence, and 20,000 empty seats had the game been played in Columbia.
But it was a huge rivalry, huge!
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Guys I was thinking about the stre14k this morning and it reminded me of another streak (nee The Streak) which was how many consecutive games our hawk bros had won in Manhattan. Just wanted a safe space to discuss your favorite the streak. I'll start. 2trai9ht NCAA tournament appearances in pretty great. Not sure what the official current count is on the AFH winning streak is but I assume it's formidable. Thanks and rcjh
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Guys I was thinking about the stre14k this morning and it reminded me of another streak (nee The Streak) which was how many consecutive games our hawk bros had won in Manhattan. Just wanted a safe space to discuss your favorite the streak. I'll start. 2trai9ht NCAA tournament appearances in pretty great. Not sure what the official current count is on the AFH winning streak is but I assume it's formidable. Thanks and rcjh
It is pretty neat.
We are all so lucky to be able to bask the :tsc: glory at this special time in the history of athletics.
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Is there a Number 1 RPI streak? I just checked and KU is still tanked number 1 in the RPI. That is some truly amazing scheduling skillz.
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Gotta say, this past few days has been one of the greatest "not our rival" meltdowns I've ever seen.
Nothing says "not our rival" like 72 hours of explaining how (insert school name here) is not our rival.
I'm sure once it's out of their system, they'll start talking tons of sh1t on Tech too.
Well, Mizzou is still their big rival. It was so huge back in the day that just about every year 10's of thousands of fans would arrive and stay at the football games dressed looking exactly like metal bleachers.
The last football game in the HUGE rivalry was played in front of 30,000 empty seats at Arrowhead Stadium, and would have left 5,000 empty seats had the game been played in Lawrence, and 20,000 empty seats had the game been played in Columbia.
But it was a huge rivalry, huge!
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Incredibly, some people are only dax pit fans. I love to celebrate his entire catalogue.
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Incredibly, some people are only dax pit fans. I love to celebrate his entire catalogue.
Dax is one of the best posters on this blog
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Does being run out of the gym by a football school go here?
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They are doing the annual shaming of a player leaving the program early to make money, it’s a real bad look.
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https://www.theringer.com/march-madness/2019/3/24/18279336/kansas-season-over-2019
The Jayhawks were the preseason favorite, with one of the most talented squads in the nation. And then, very quickly, everything fell apart. After a convincing second-round loss to Auburn, Kansas finds itself at an unfamiliar crossroads.
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It's a bloody cage match on phog with a creeping recognition that next year could be worse. It's just a taste of the bloodletting that will follow Self leaving and sanctions coming down.
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https://twitter.com/DrunkAubie/status/1111328255553032192
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It's like a festival of blue bloods at the sprint center this weekend (BTW we need a good nickname for that place)
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It's like a festival of blue bloods at the sprint center this weekend (BTW we need a good nickname for that place)
Hilton south ?
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Man, this year we really got under their skin. Off-season unsolicited angry tweets? So much for us not being a rival.
https://twitter.com/BarstoolKU/status/1111297954198052864?s=19
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So, if I say 'EMAW' I'm saying 'Little Brother' in 11 different languages? Neat!
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Man, this year we really got under their skin. Off-season unsolicited angry tweets? So much for us not being a rival.
https://twitter.com/BarstoolKU/status/1111297954198052864?s=19
A "Little Brother" rivalry does not seem to go very far, like not beyond how much mom & pop love either.
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barely goes here but transfer Charli Moore is transferring
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barely goes here but transfer Charli Moore is transferring
Lol
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barely goes here but transfer Charli Moore is transferring
KU b-ball hurting less today
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https://twitter.com/ChasenScott/status/1113919116824449024
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Not really hurting KU. Graduate transfer. Eligible immediately. 23 years old with TWO years left to play. Dom Sutton’esque
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Yeah, but if he’s leaving, pretty good sign the other brother is entering the draft, right?
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did anyone think he wasn’t going pro?
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Yeah, I had a pretty good feeling he was going pro
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did anyone think he wasn’t going pro?
Lots of squawks. Today’s latest draft projections don’t even have him getting drafted. He’s fallen the last few months.
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https://www.nbadraft.net/2019mock_draft
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Not sure what happens with doke but man if him and dedric are gone that leaves them pretty lightfooted in the post. Their guard play with Dotson and Grimes and Agbaji will be salty AF tho.
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Well played! :love: @Spracne
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Not sure what happens with doke but man if him and dedric are gone that leaves them pretty lightfooted in the post. Their guard play with Dotson and Grimes and Agbaji will be salty AF tho.
i keep reading that KU people think there is a good chance De Sousa might play next year.
they are also considered the leader for top 10 overall player and #1 forward matthew hurt
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Also the sanctions coming from adidas. They’re toast.
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Now it's official, KJ Lawson has left the building.
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article228855689.html
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Not sure what happens with doke but man if him and dedric are gone that leaves them pretty lightfooted in the post. Their guard play with Dotson and Grimes and Agbaji will be salty AF tho.
i keep reading that KU people think there is a good chance De Sousa might play next year.
He's already been suspended tho
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Not sure what happens with doke but man if him and dedric are gone that leaves them pretty lightfooted in the post. Their guard play with Dotson and Grimes and Agbaji will be salty AF tho.
i keep reading that KU people think there is a good chance De Sousa might play next year.
He's already been suspended tho
Some people are unreasonably optimistic KU will win an appeal. I myself would be surprised if he doesn't leave in the next 2 months.
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he has visa restrictions to consider I think
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https://twitter.com/DSmoove1_2many/status/1115263617396563969
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Remember that unless the player hires an agent, they can now come back after the draft.
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Yeah, it will be interesting to see what happens with him.
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He doesn't have NBA size, range, or athleticism. Hell of a college player though.
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That was a fantastic bill self impression
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Remember that unless the player hires an agent, they can now come back after the draft.
Only if undrafted I believe
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“nba size” doesn’t exist anymore, he’s a tall lanky athletic baller. he has a future in the league
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That was a fantastic bill self impression
lol
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“nba size” doesn’t exist anymore, he’s a tall lanky athletic baller. he has a future in the league
We'll see how his workouts go, I guess. I can't find dude in any mocks. The only recently updated scouting report says this:
"There are three concerns NBA teams have with Lawson. One, he is undersized to play the 4 or 5 in today’s NBA. Secondly, he is not a good enough jump shooter to space the floor. Lastly, he will be 22 when the next NBA season begins. A perfect comparison for Lawson is Paul Millsap. In Millsap’s final year at Louisiana Tech, he averaged 19.6 points and 13.3 rebounds per game on a 57.8/62.3/0 split. As you can see, Millsap made it to the NBA without any three point shot at all. Lawson does not have that luxury. Lawson is listed at 6’9” 230, while Millsap was listed at 6’8” 245. For Lawson to catch on with an NBA team, he will not only need to be an average three point shooter, but he will have to competently guard opposing power forwards and be an above average rebounder."
Couple that with what oscar Pearl said:
"Oh, I love Dedric," Pearl told reporters. "He's a pro. He's got an old-school game, scores inside and out. He's got to work a little bit defensively, get a little stronger, move a little bit better, but he's got a great future. I'm happy for him."
It looks right now that getting drafted is far from a sure thing. If he comes back he's going to be the conference POY.
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tall lanky athletic baller. he has a future in the league
Yeah, that's like 80% of the league these days. It's like a bunch of clones out there.
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“nba size” doesn’t exist anymore, he’s a tall lanky athletic baller. he has a future in the league
We'll see how his workouts go, I guess. I can't find dude in any mocks. The only recently updated scouting report says this:
"There are three concerns NBA teams have with Lawson. One, he is undersized to play the 4 or 5 in today’s NBA. Secondly, he is not a good enough jump shooter to space the floor. Lastly, he will be 22 when the next NBA season begins. A perfect comparison for Lawson is Paul Millsap. In Millsap’s final year at Louisiana Tech, he averaged 19.6 points and 13.3 rebounds per game on a 57.8/62.3/0 split. As you can see, Millsap made it to the NBA without any three point shot at all. Lawson does not have that luxury. Lawson is listed at 6’9” 230, while Millsap was listed at 6’8” 245. For Lawson to catch on with an NBA team, he will not only need to be an average three point shooter, but he will have to competently guard opposing power forwards and be an above average rebounder."
Couple that with what oscar Pearl said:
"Oh, I love Dedric," Pearl told reporters. "He's a pro. He's got an old-school game, scores inside and out. He's got to work a little bit defensively, get a little stronger, move a little bit better, but he's got a great future. I'm happy for him."
It looks right now that getting drafted is far from a sure thing. If he comes back he's going to be the conference POY.
His knocks are size, strength, and age as far as I can tell. Two of those things won't improve with another year. He could improve strength but I'm sure NBA teams would rather have him in their programs to do that. I think he is a pretty safe bet to get drafted and at least some of your mocks haven't updated to include him yet.
Reminds me more of TJ Warren than Millsap.
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https://twitter.com/lukeyd__/status/1116095147111014400?s=21
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They are so good at eating their own.
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They are so good at eating their own.
I love how, at the same time, they can claim that a player is horrible, but that he should still come back for another year.
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They are so good at eating their own.
I love how, at the same time, they can claim that a player is horrible, but that he should still come back for another year.
Bill has taught them to do this well. Like some sort of cultish mind control. A dark day for :tsc:
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UK site making fun of KU fans for turning in Q.
https://www.nationofblue.com/kansas-player-declares-for-draft-gets-blasted-by-own-fans/
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WOW!
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:lol:
https://twitter.com/themattgalloway/status/1121074771914055680
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It has to be seriously massive.
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Classic Stockholm Syndrome. Poor guys.
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14 million a year and the unkown of the fbi case? thats some brass balls
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:lol:
https://twitter.com/themattgalloway/status/1121074771914055680
I'm pleasantly surprised at the reaction from the KU fans to this.
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All you have to do is look at KU’s financial statements and you’ll immediately see that there’s no way they could afford to lose that contract.
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:lol:
https://twitter.com/themattgalloway/status/1121074771914055680
I'm pleasantly surprised at the reaction from the KU fans to this.
Beems seems pretty pumped about it
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This is the most ku thing ever.
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They could either come to terms on a deal or be at each other's throats in FBI and NCAA investigations which wouldn't be good for either party.
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That deal is loaded with merch for athletes. Adidas gets full retail value credit for merch given to athletes, which really inflates the value of the deal. Maybe Adidas is coming in with a stronger mix of cash, making "cooperation" on the payoff investigation a little easier.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5Ancn6W4AI7j54.jpg)
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yes :lol:
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lmao
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Haha
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Perfect
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Fantastic
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That deal is loaded with merch for athletes. Adidas gets full retail value credit for merch given to athletes, which really inflates the value of the deal. Maybe Adidas is coming in with a stronger mix of cash, making "cooperation" on the payoff investigation a little easier.
That is standard operating procedure for their industry. Under Armour (UCLA), NIKE (tOSU) and again adidas (Washington) all have a similar merchandise valuation included in those contracts.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/suns-jackson-accused-of-getting-infant-high-court-records-show/ar-AADebb5?li=BBnba9I
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/suns-jackson-accused-of-getting-infant-high-court-records-show/ar-AADebb5?li=BBnba9I
Remember when Lagerald Vick kicked that woman in the face and then later that year he and Josh Jackson threatened her and destroyed her car? Wild stuff.
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he's moved on from college girls to barely premenopausal women
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Jackson might still be a worse NBA player than parent/person
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Smoke circles coming off the top of Mt Oread about possible Addidas related sanctions coming in the next couple of weeks.....
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oh no
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Well it’s all fun and games until they take away 14 straight :frown:
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Victim blaming, smdh
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Are they more worried about sanctions or news of a Self - Epstien connection? :Wha: (ftp://:Wha:)
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did they stop trying to compete with the kentuckys and the dukes of the world? maybe self saw all the success oscar is having. but not sure if he can coach them up like oscar can, he needs the 5 stars to win
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:emawkid: :horrorsurprise: :sdeek: :flush:
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article235306247.html (https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article235306247.html)
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Chances Self gets fired or resigns?
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Smoke circles coming off the top of Mt Oread about possible Addidas related sanctions coming in the next couple of weeks.....
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bring back bitb for days like these
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Chances Self gets fired or resigns?
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Townsend is gonna take the bullet
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Man someone post the wegothim.gif STAT!
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I haven't been to the Phog in quite sometime but they have made my afternoon. My god the delusion over there is incredible. :users: (ftp://:users:)
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Possible Level 1 allegations? Could be some serious crap. New AD might have his chance to make KU a football school.
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After the Indy laid KU low
Billy split for San Anto
Hawkers said it was for the dough
but they really didn't want to know
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https://twitter.com/garybedore/status/1175174039540776965?s=21
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Guys I would really hate to see our TSC Bro for life KU basketball get put on probation for a 6th time.
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Seriously, why hasn't Self already left for another job?
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Seriously, why hasn't Self already left for another job?
He's cocky and thinks he'll never get caught.
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He’s in love with his side chick (realtor).
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More juicy deets 69420cat. Also one of my sisters lives in lawrentucky and knows some of the side chicks.
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SEEMS PRETTY CLEAR. Dr James A Naismith is probably rolling over in his peach basket right now.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFAYTc8XsAIqfGv?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Lol. That's really good.
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Spracs, what do you think the punishment will be? I’m guessing a slap on the wrist and one less scholarship player. They need KU to keep bowing out early in the tourney for revenue.
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Honestly, I have no clue. I'm not sure we played any potentially ineligible players other than SDS, and he's already been punished. So, I dont think vacating wins is on the table. The only thing that will really bother me would be a post-season ban. That would suck. Would be funny if they just give Townsend a lifetime ban and call it a day.
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SEEMS PRETTY CLEAR. Dr James A Naismith is probably rolling over in his peach basket right now.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFAYTc8XsAIqfGv?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Amazing
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Honestly, I have no clue. I'm not sure we played any potentially ineligible players other than SDS, and he's already been punished. So, I dont think vacating wins is on the table. The only thing that will really bother me would be a post-season ban. That would suck. Would be funny if they just give Townsend a lifetime ban and call it a day.
:thumbs:
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Guys :ohno:
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Great shitpost. Quality stuff.
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Great shitpost. Quality stuff.
Sorry bud but can't spill the beans yet. It's bad, though.
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Great shitpost. Quality stuff.
Sorry bud but can't spill the beans yet. It's bad, though.
Oh. Ok.
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Choo Choo got some super secret insidery info that is definitely not just based on the KC Star's report that a Notice of Allegations is forthcoming. Spill the beans, brother!
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fitz must have asked him to sit on this info
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Boom :sdeek:
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wow they were cheating even harder than the most suspicious person could suspect. They make Duke and UK look clean
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https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/Article/Report-NCAA-charges-Kansas-with-multiple-Level-1-allegations-136032236/Amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Stadium's Jeff Goodman also tweeted that the "real info will come in about [nine] months or so when [the] penalties [are] levied."
Sooo nothing is going to happen until next season.
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KU is the victim.
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Play with fire and eventually you get burned :th_twocents:
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NCAA is giving Self an opportunity to finish next season and then bolt. They do a great job looking out for the coaches
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KU is the victim.
lol I remember that
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:bwpopcorn:
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https://twitter.com/rockchalkblog/status/1176243462179606530
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It begs the question question... If you attempt to rob someone but their wallet is empty... Should you be charged with robbery?
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It’s pretty bad luck that absolutely the only improper conduct on KU’s part was for two guys who didn’t play there. I mean, what are the odds?
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This is the time to double down and cheat like crazy now that the eye is on KU.
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I think we really do need a separate thread for the upcoming 2020-2021 season coaching search, but just really want to hear “COME HOME, C.B.!!!”
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https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/Article/Report-NCAA-charges-Kansas-with-multiple-Level-1-allegations-136032236/Amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Stadium's Jeff Goodman also tweeted that the "real info will come in about [nine] months or so when [the] penalties [are] levied."
Sooo nothing is going to happen until next season.
The longer this hangs over the program and Self's recruitying, the better in my view.
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I think KU is faced with two options
1) Retain Self and face more serious penalties
2) Fire Self and receive less serious penalties
The new AD has some weird clause in his contract about extending his contract if KU gets sanctions so that is a bit of a wildcard.
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Lol at no. 2.
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https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1176284771514802176
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https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1176284771514802176
So that is what Self thinks....what does Long think? Will Long be able to go after “his guy?”
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What else is he supposed to say? “Well golly they finally caught us? “
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Lol at no. 2.
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/10/16/louisville-rick-pitino-fired
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This is the time to double down and cheat like crazy now that the eye is on KU.
:D
:thumbsup:
:kstategrad:
What else is he supposed to say? “Well golly they finally caught us? “
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This all may have been out there earlier today but i didn’t realize they recommended a show cause for Self,Townsend, and the FB Video Coordinator from Beatty’s staff.
https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1176299868178014214?s=21
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Lol at no. 2.
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/10/16/louisville-rick-pitino-fired
Ku doesn’t have the backbone that Louisville has. They will just do whatever self tells them to do.
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Anyone actually read this thing? Larry Brown is still willing to "help" KU 30 years after he put them on probation. Pretty amazing for a guy who's never been loyal to anyone/anything other than himself.
https://publicaffairs.ku.edu/sites/publicaffairs.ku.edu/files/docs/NOA%20to%20KU.pdf
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I do kind of like the double whammy of 1) if you get caught doing a bad thing you're in trouble and also 2) if you don't tell on yourself for doing that bad thing then you're in even more trouble
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k-state should sue this corrupt kansas basketball program. how many countless millions has their cheating cost k-state? in terms of wins, championships, coverage, exposure, television, earnings, future NBA players, and being recognized as a blueblood alongside duke, kentucky, north carolina (aka all the other cheater schools).
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KU is EFF'D
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Lol at no. 2.
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/10/16/louisville-rick-pitino-fired
Ku doesn’t have the backbone that Louisville has. They will just do whatever self tells them to do.
More importantly, Louisville has (or at least had) a decently successful FB program.
How could you possibly be the AD that voluntarily crippled bball at KU?
Edit: well, unless it gets you an automatic extension under your contract I guess...
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Getting that provision in his contract was pretty lol.
President: We'd like to hire you Mr. Long.
JL: so everyone in the country knows that Self is paying players to go to ku and it's just a matter of time before he gets caught so I will have to pass.
ku prez: yeah, no crap we know that. So we will put in your contract that you can't get fired when they catch up to Bill.
JL: you'd do that? holy crap, he must be really dirty.
KUpres: you've no idea my guy.
JL: RCJH WTW lets do this
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:lol:
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:lol:
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Won't surprise me either way what happens, but when the NCAA barely punishes a school that covered up a coach diddling kids in the locker room...I'm not to convinced KU will be in much trouble tbh
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How many confy titles will we have once KU vacates all of theirs back to 1957?
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It seems that one of Frank's former assistants was tied up in this, but don't recall whether it was at K-State or not.
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This case reeks of estoppel.
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How many of their dirty titles did we finish second?
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https://twitter.com/si_ncaabb/status/1177700022537850880?s=19
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Great troll, there.
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The Dodge City Daily Globe's Editorial Advisory Board has Coach Self's back.
https://www.dodgeglobe.com/opinion/20190927/editorial-facts-matter-in-kus-ncaa-investigation
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They do not GAF
https://twitter.com/sam_vecenie/status/1180304760441671682
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Guys...twitter is PRIME right now :lol:
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I’m also heavily pak’d so no fucks are being given
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https://twitter.com/mctait/status/1180337803592372225
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Complete lack of institutional control. Ts&Ps to all the children
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Haha
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It made me think that if a bunch of goEMAW'ers paid Snooop Dogg $100,000 to put that show on at the piss barn, it would have been worth it.
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It made me think that if a bunch of goEMAW'ers paid Snooop Dogg $100,000 to put that show on at the piss barn, it would have been worth it.
:peek: #fatty4ksu
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Oh yeah well we had the Goo Goo Dolls at our Spring Game once except it got cancelled
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I thought snoop was only doing that vh1 show with martha stewart that makes a bunch of weed puns.
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No energy in that crowd
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KU honestly DNGAF
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https://twitter.com/theplayerthefan/status/1181634706183471105?s=21
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really gave it up for MU. yikes, they are desperate
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really gave it up for MU. yikes, they are desperate
They needed a superbowl to brag about when they are banned from the tourney for 2-3 years.
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1189952142792175616?s=20
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Piping in noise to Allen field house would be the most Kansas thing ever.
Hell, I can remember Roy talking about the wine and cheese crowds.
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Piping in noise to Allen field house would be the most Kansas thing ever.
Hell, I can remember Roy talking about the wine and cheese crowds.
They don't pipe noise in its just their thunderstruckand other crap they play is insanely loud
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1189952142792175616?s=20
hopefully that was xavier sneed's quote
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Allen certainly wins the competition for most courtside local talk radio personalities shaking stat sheets at student athletes
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610 Sports host, "I'd rather watch NFL Live and them debating about whether Mahomes is coming back or not than watch the KU-Duke game. I can't even name anyone on their team this year except Udoke."
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https://www.ksn.com/news/kansas/ku-alum-pens-twas-the-night-before-tipoff-childrens-book-for-jayhawks/
Karl has instructed Karla to pick up a single copy and then he'll make copies at the office and distribute to neices and nephews at Xmas.
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lol dax
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https://twitter.com/jessenewell/status/1192820528215724032
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Jesse gives Matt Tait a major run for biggest KU Pom Pom waver in media.
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who sucks bill self’s balls more, jesse tool or jason king? tune in to find out
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Doesn't Give A eff
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it was incredible, and ku fan responded exactly like you would expect they would
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savage dunk
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https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1195570964668370944
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https://twitter.com/ChrisFickett/status/1222698603887714304?s=19
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https://twitter.com/jessenewell/status/1192820528215724032
I have to note that watching my streaming TV service, the commercials that are fed to me are literally 33% KU hoops tickets commercials.
So I do have to give the KU AD's office credit for tossing money out there to try and sell tickets to those in the region (I live in Topeka). However, the marketing is a bit ineffective to aim it at me.
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https://twitter.com/Jared_James11/status/1226993793200730113?s=20
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It won't be long before Jeff Long eliminates the student section.
But if things break a certain way with a certain oversight body (don't hold your breath, but that LOA, wow, scathing) I suspect Jeff's going to have a lot of deals going for KUMBB tickets.
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Why is only one Morris getting his jersey retired?
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Why is only one Morris getting his jersey retired?
Wasn't Marcus way better than Markieff at KU?
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Why is only one Morris getting his jersey retired?
Wasn't Marcus way better than Markieff at KU?
:dunno: To this day, I don't know which one was trying to buy weed from gE during a big 12 tourney.
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Why is only one Morris getting his jersey retired?
Wasn't Marcus way better than Markieff at KU?
:dunno: To this day, I don't know which one was trying to buy weed from gE during a big 12 tourney.
the non jersey retired one
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Why is only one Morris getting his jersey retired?
Wasn't Marcus way better than Markieff at KU?
They were basically identical to me.
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I always thought Markieff was a better (bb gun) shooter
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Wow, so is this Morris thing simply to sell tickets? Maybe try free bacon before pulling out the jersey retirements
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Morris gets his jersey up at KU before Pullen gets his at K-State. Granted, Ayoka Lee will probably have her jersey up there before the end of the season
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Rumblings that Jeff Long and Coach Self don't much care for each other.
Developing . . .
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ku basketball was never more successful than they were under cheyenne zulu...fact
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Really haha. First to worst for you clowns
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Come take your medicine, pisspants.
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Spracne owns you dudes today.
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Guys:
https://www2.ljworld.com/opinion/2020/feb/26/letter-to-the-editor-ku-hoops-priorities/
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rough ridin' dave, man. like we need him providing even more bulletin board material for the hawks.
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So I just saw that the xfl had higher ratings than ku v Baylor (apparently 1 v 3????)
Yikes
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so does the Golden Girls
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Rumblings that Jeff Long and Coach Self don't much care for each other.
Developing . . .
Makes sense. Massa Seff's squad is an ongoing disaster management project off the basketball court. Long has to wonder if he has enough energy to keep up.
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Self didn't know!!!
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Self didn't know!!!
How could he have known? :dunno: :dunno:
Bill Self ain't got no got damn crystal ball!!
Plus, who in their right mind would ever consider a former head coach a representative of KU's athletic interests? The man never gave a dime to KU!! (That doesn't matter but who's keeping track of that stuff, come on man!)
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https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1240045007463211014
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No banner after a second round loss to Marquette. Gotta feel for them after getting their hopes up.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28915817/bpi-projects-how-2020-ncaa-tournament-played-out
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i'm going to take a video of that picture with my phone, burn it to DVD, and then sell it
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:bawl: :bawl: :cry: :bawl: :bawl: (ftp://:bawl: :bawl: :cry: :bawl: :bawl:). I feel for them..Soooooooo good, but we'll never really know will we. Damn.
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That shirt is trying to convince the wearer as much as anything
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Is that for sale somewhere? Would be a good keepsake/conversation piece/memento.
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My daycare person's husband made them for his friends. :love: :love:
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Kansas: Never made the Final Four as the overall #1
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Kansas: Never made the Final Four as the overall #1
...Burn?
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Kansas: Never made the Final Four as the overall #1
...Burn?
I'm going to convince him otherwise!
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so the super cheaty thing came out.
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so the super cheaty thing came out.
Link? I haven't seen anything.
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so the super cheaty thing came out.
Link? I haven't seen anything.
https://www.si.com/college/2020/05/06/ncaa-responds-kansas-notice-allegations
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Karl even pulled out the Surge Finance Continental Mastercard (rated one of the worst cards in the industry) with the $400 credit limit and and told Karla to max it out. Besides, the RONA put the ol kibosh on the annual Saturday overnighter to Branson anyway.
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Someone read that entire thing and tell me the good stuff
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No details on what was in the response
The NCAA's response to Kansas is 92 pages long, per Sports Illustrated's Pat Forde. The response should allow the NCAA to set a date for an infractions committee hearing, and the case could possibly be completed by the beginning of the 2020–21 season.
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From Tait's LJWorld Story:
•The violations alleged to have taken place within the men’s basketball program, the NCAA argued, are “of the kind that significantly undermine and threaten the NCAA collegiate model.” Enforcement staff also took issue with KU not conceding that any Level I violations took place, saying the university was “indifferent” to how the alleged conduct may have adversely affected schools who recruited players in line with NCAA rules.
“The institution’s lack of timely cooperation and failure to acknowledge any responsibility for the alleged Level I violations are in direct contradiction to both the spirit and charge of the Commission and to the expectations of the membership,” the NCAA’s response said.
• (Re: KU's argument Adidas sleazeball T.J. Gassnola was not a school booster) In its response this week, however, the NCAA took to task that argument. NCAA rules, the enforcement staff argued, make it clear that athletic departments are responsible for the actions of their boosters. What’s more, the NCAA said, case precedent has well established that shoe companies that have marketing contracts with a university are a booster of that university.
When KU responded to the Notice of Allegations on March 5, it argued that the concept of an apparel company being a booster and representative of the university’s athletic interest was “novel.”
In its response, NCAA enforcement staff criticized how close KU allowed Gassnola to get to the “storied basketball program” and said KU ignored “red flags” for years which should have indicated that KU’s compliance staff needed to monitor his activities.
The university, the NCAA said, “failed to control and monitor the relationship between Adidas’ representatives with its storied men’s basketball program,” even if Gassnola was acting in his own interests — as KU has argued.
“This failure led to T.J. Gassnola, a convicted criminal and then Adidas outside consultant, having unfiltered access to the men’s basketball program and allowed for Gassnola and Adidas to profoundly influence the institution’s recruitment of elite men’s basketball student-athletes,” the NCAA said.
The NCAA says Self knew in 2012 that Gassnola and his AAU basketball team had been sanctioned by the NCAA. By 2014, a compliance officer with KU learned that the sanction of Gassnola was due to Gassnola’s association as a runner — or someone who helps recruit players — for a professional sports agent.
Yet, the NCAA notes, both Self and assistant coach Kurtis Townsend “regularly consulted” with Gassnola on recruiting elite basketball prospects. Self and Townsend allowed Gassnola access to closed basketball practices and shoot-arounds where he was allowed to interact with student-athletes, the NCAA said, and Gassnola was also allowed into a secure area for families waiting for their student-athletes to come out of arena locker rooms.
• Tait's conclusion: All told, the allegations carry potential punishments that could keep the basketball program from the NCAA tournament for the first time since 1989 and result in a long-term suspension for Self, in addition to scholarship losses and other penalties.
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Kerkhoff was on 810 this afternoon. He juxtaposed KU self reporting of Beatys supposed level 2 violations in football to their absolute defiance when dealing with level 1 accusations against the basketball program.
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https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2020/05/08/kansas-basketball-scandal-bill-self-tj-gassnola
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https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2020/05/08/kansas-basketball-scandal-bill-self-tj-gassnola
THAT GUY WENT TO MIZZOU! :shakesfist:
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Does anyone else wonder how you spend $250,000 for a celebration of Massa Seff's induction into the Naismith hall of fame?
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Did the Snoop Dog money guns teach you nothing?
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Gotta say, the fact that the NCAA mentioned the Late Night performance in their reply document is really LOL.
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Haven't really followed this story much. Is Self going to prison or nah?
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Haven't really followed this story much. Is Self going to prison or nah?
Very likely
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https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/oklahoma-st-gets-hammered-for-fbi-scandal-infractions-147885777/ (https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/oklahoma-st-gets-hammered-for-fbi-scandal-infractions-147885777/)
what a delightful read. EDF really feeling himself here.
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https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/oklahoma-st-gets-hammered-for-fbi-scandal-infractions-147885777/ (https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/oklahoma-st-gets-hammered-for-fbi-scandal-infractions-147885777/)
what a delightful read. EDF really feeling himself here.
I forgot about ol Earth Dog
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https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/oklahoma-st-gets-hammered-for-fbi-scandal-infractions-147885777/ (https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/oklahoma-st-gets-hammered-for-fbi-scandal-infractions-147885777/)
what a delightful read. EDF really feeling himself here.
I forgot about ol Earth Dog
A Gems recap would be wonderful.
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https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/oklahoma-st-gets-hammered-for-fbi-scandal-infractions-147885777/ (https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/oklahoma-st-gets-hammered-for-fbi-scandal-infractions-147885777/)
what a delightful read. EDF really feeling himself here.
that was p interesting
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who told them that the tournament makes the NCAA $80B?
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https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/oklahoma-st-gets-hammered-for-fbi-scandal-infractions-147885777/ (https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/oklahoma-st-gets-hammered-for-fbi-scandal-infractions-147885777/)
what a delightful read. EDF really feeling himself here.
I forgot about ol Earth Dog
A Gems recap would be wonderful.
yep
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This was a particularly lovely gem:
MarkKozelek
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Substantially hurting KU would substantially hurt the NCAA. There are FOUR Blue Bloods in all of college hoops. KU is one of them. We generate more interest alone than the rest of the Big 12 and PAC-12 combined.
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https://twitter.com/WALLACHLEGAL/status/1270717848323682304?s=19
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Oklahoma state had an assistant coach convicted. KU didn’t.
It’s insane. They want a blue blood that isn’t duke or Kentucky
Not all top recruits care about the NCAA tournament. See Beasley, Michael.
This is the silver lining today. If an assistant coach accepts money and is convicted of a federal crime, and the punishment is the one year ban, how bad can it possibly be when none of the coaches were charged with a crime, and there was sworn testimony that the coaches were intentionally kept out of the loop?
There’s no way our transgressions should be looked at as harshly. If they are, there has to be some outside relief.
It’s alll a completely laughable chain of events and that doesn’t take into account of our current political climate (sorry to get political) and how the ‘money’ sports are primarily African American and they help fund other non revenue sports that are primarily white.
It's time for the P5 to pull out.
KU is doomed on the optics side of things no matter what. If you care about them. The public perception from non KU fans is that KU needs to go down now no matter what. Those people dont know all the details of the case. They just group KU and Ok State and Auburn and all the others into one big group of teams and ignore the evidence in hand and the differences in each case. This includes media folk as well. Garry Parrish is one that comes to mind.
That darn Gary Parrish :curse:
I think most schools would admire KU for finally calling the NCAA out on their BS.
The difference is Okie St was actually caught doing something wrong and KU was caught texting "We Good" and sitting players when there were concerns on their amateur status.
The guy speaking on behalf of the ncaa is a dumbass.
The NCAA is a ******** joke and totally random, what happened to Oklahoma State will have zero bearing on what happens to KU good or bad. Throw a fvcking dart.
I don’t think the NCAA can afford to hammer KU. Like said, we are one of 4 bluebloods who generate a TON of interest. Most talked about programs in cbb: Duke, UK, KU. With the cancellation of the tourney this year, that cost the NCAA $80 billion. You think going forward they would want sites like Wichita, KC, Omaha to be empty bc KU is banned and can’t play? KU single handedly sells out those arenas for the tourney. Without them there, it’s prob 60% capacity max. Just my opinion.
Hate to break this to you but the FBI couldn't even find anything on KU. The NCAA won't do *****.
Im not sure the NCAA will be around in 3 years
Maybe if some rioters just happened to be walking past the NCAA building....
I hate to break this to you, but the FBI wasn’t looking for anything on KU. It had to use KU, the academic institution, to make its theory of the crime. In doing so, it essentially treated Self, Townsend, and the entire basketball program as unindicted co-conspirators.
KU hoops is bigger than any of this in the end. They will weather any storm. Rock Chalk
I expect our case to go to the courts and hopefully our legal team points out examples where the NCAA has chosen to ignore the shoe companies influence on college BB up until now.
NCAA is throwing absolutely everything at KU hoping to scare them into admitting something and taking lesser penalties.
I would love to negotiate with many who post here on this thread. The point of negotiation (and, trust me, this is a negotiation) is to make the other party feel a weakened stance or go as far as intimidate and defeat, if it's prudent. The NCAA is hoping the current accusations and environment scare KU into being "cooperative".
At least 90% of the Power 5 teams want to see the NCAA get hammered for egregiously using selective enforcement of the rules. The other teams are merely glad it's us and not them that is taking the NCAA to task. That's their joy in seeing this happen to KU.
Yep, we clearly should have packed up and gone to Under Armour, who was directly named in our indictment, or Nike, who has subsequently admitted to directing payments to players and their families.
How about this outcome? KU simply refuses to play their game and stalls or ignores any deadlines. What's the blowback from that approach
I think "we" arent paying recruits but obviously we are in bed with those who are.
I think if there is a blue-blood-type program that is actually taking care of players directly, it's Duke. It's a private university with a very small, wealthy alumni base that is spread all over the country.
The problem is - and always has been - that there is too much gray area, but your "bags of cash" argument still boils down to whether Gassnola should be declared a booster. Let's look at this "booster" issue in another way, then. In legal contractual terms. Instead of "booster," substitute "agent." Was Gassnola acting as an agent of KU? That analysis begins with authority and control. Was he acting with authority granted by KU or the coaching staff? No. He was acting in the best interest of his employer, adidas, not KU. Granted, in most situations, those interests align, but is there any question that Gassnola would act in adidas' interest if the interests of the two parties diverged? Absolutely not. If it was in adidas' best interest to steer a top recruit to another school, he'd do it in a heartbeat. Same with control. KU does not control what Gassnola does.
He's technically a booster of every Adidas school. If you are a booster of every Adidas school are you really a booster of any school?
Do you honestly think the NCAA wants text and phone records of their good ol' boy network public. With the incestuous nature of their enforcement arm and previous university affiliation or even the compostion of their new committee, there is a zero sum chance that there aren't salacious, damning and possibly illegal texts.
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Nicely done, fun muffin! TY.
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gems!
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those are real beauts clark
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How dare they bring Michael Beasley into this
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jesus eff
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We have lawyered up as much as one can lawyer up. Millions of dollars already spent and believe you me, the alumni have let it be known that there is no dollar amount that is too much to spend on this. We’re talking scorched earth, exhaust every resource at our disposal, fight it until they pry it from our cold dead hands. Everything that can be done is being done.
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How can fans of a school honestly be this naive about their situation? I’m flabbergasted. Woof!
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They’re too poor to pay their old football coach. What in the world kind of $ do they think they have after covid?
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We have lawyered up as much as one can lawyer up. Millions of dollars already spent and believe you me, the alumni have let it be known that there is no dollar amount that is too much to spend on this. We’re talking scorched earth, exhaust every resource at our disposal, fight it until they pry it from our cold dead hands. Everything that can be done is being done.
lmao
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can you imagine typing this sentence with a straight face because i can't
"there is a zero sum chance that there aren't salacious, damning and possibly illegal texts"
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Zero sum relative to what? There are many zero sums.
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can you imagine typing this sentence with a straight face because i can't
"there is a zero sum chance that there aren't salacious, damning and possibly illegal texts"
It means that the chances are:
18% damning
-31% salacious
+13% illegal
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0 sum chance
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can you imagine typing this sentence with a straight face because i can't
"there is a zero sum chance that there aren't salacious, damning and possibly illegal texts"
It means that the chances are:
18% damning
-31% salacious
+13% illegal
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0 sum chance
This checks out. I added those up and they do indeed equal zero.
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We have lawyered up as much as one can lawyer up. Millions of dollars already spent and believe you me, the alumni have let it be known that there is no dollar amount that is too much to spend on this. We’re talking scorched earth, exhaust every resource at our disposal, fight it until they pry it from our cold dead hands. Everything that can be done is being done.
LMFAO
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I bet they get a 1 year post season ban, 5 years of probation (the max), and the loss of 2 - 3 scholarships for a year or two. If the NCAA really wants to send a message, they'll make the post season ban multiple years.
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I bet they get a 1 year post season ban, 5 years of probation (the max), and the loss of 2 - 3 scholarships for a year or two. If the NCAA really wants to send a message, they'll make the post season ban multiple years.
Yeah. I had been thinking 2 year ps ban would be required, based on the OSU sanctions. But man, it still feels harsh.
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I bet they get a 1 year post season ban, 5 years of probation (the max), and the loss of 2 - 3 scholarships for a year or two. If the NCAA really wants to send a message, they'll make the post season ban multiple years.
Yeah. I had been thinking 2 year ps ban would be required, based on the OSU sanctions. But man, it still feels harsh.
No way the NCAA would do that. They would lose way too much money when a third of the country doesn't care about the tourney because KU isn't in it. It's why viewership usually drops off considerably after the round of 32 or Sweet 16.
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I bet they get a 1 year post season ban, 5 years of probation (the max), and the loss of 2 - 3 scholarships for a year or two. If the NCAA really wants to send a message, they'll make the post season ban multiple years.
Yeah. I had been thinking 2 year ps ban would be required, based on the OSU sanctions. But man, it still feels harsh.
No way the NCAA would do that. They would lose way too much money when a third of the country doesn't care about the tourney because KU isn't in it. It's why viewership usually drops off considerably after the round of 32 or Sweet 16.
Exactly.
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I bet they get a 1 year post season ban, 5 years of probation (the max), and the loss of 2 - 3 scholarships for a year or two. If the NCAA really wants to send a message, they'll make the post season ban multiple years.
Yeah. I had been thinking 2 year ps ban would be required, based on the OSU sanctions. But man, it still feels harsh.
No way the NCAA would do that. They would lose way too much money when a third of the country doesn't care about the tourney because KU isn't in it. It's why viewership usually drops off considerably after the round of 32 or Sweet 16.
If you opened a twitter account, follow KU accounts, tweeted this, and tag this with #kubball you would absolutely get a minimum of a hundred likes.
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Fantastic trolling waks
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Yeah, I really did LOL on that one.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-infractions-case-against-kansas-set-to-be-resolved-by-independent-investigative-panel/
The IARP, created last year in response to recommendations from the Commission on College Basketball following the FBI's investigation into bribery and corruption in the sport, aims to minimize perceived conflicts of interest in the adjudication of complicated cases. Well, Kansas' case is certainly complicated. The program is facing a lack of institutional control allegation, while Hall of Fame coach Bill Self is facing a responsibility charge stemming from the FBI's investigation into bribery and corruption in the sport.
Rulings from the IARP cannot be appealed, and the investigative body has yet to set a precedent for how lenient or strict it will be with college basketball programs facing infractions cases. Both Memphis and NC State have yet to receive rulings on their respective cases.
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A independent review HAS to be good for Kansas, because the NCAA absolutely hates their guts at this point.
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Could be good or bad. It's nice that the committee isn't bound by any actual or perceived precedent, but who knows what they'll do.
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Assuming there is basketball, the big 12 needs KU basketball. So I'm hoping the squawks kick this things ass.
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This unfair witch hunt has to end
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I have no idea if this is good or bad for KU but the fact the ruling can't be appealed has to make them slightly nervous.
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I have no idea if this is good or bad for KU but the fact the ruling can't be appealed has to make them slightly nervous.
KU has challenged this thing every step up the way. Who's to say that if the ruling is unfavorable, they won't challenge that as well (even though it's supposed to be "final"). They already had Self threatening to sue the NCAA - what's the difference?
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My grandma is in her 90's, and is prolly the hugest KU fan that ever lived. I'd like for her to see a great Hawks basketball team in the post season this year and in the years to come. :don'tcare: :comeatme: :tsc:
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Pete is a mensch.
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We are a country of law and order. Justice must be served.
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Assuming there is basketball, the big 12 needs KU basketball. So I'm hoping the squawks kick this things ass.
this type of crap can't be tolerated around here, squawk_dave
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Facts.
https://twitter.com/christie98/status/1283905823379423235
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We have lawyered up as much as one can lawyer up. Millions of dollars already spent and believe you me, the alumni have let it be known that there is no dollar amount that is too much to spend on this. We’re talking scorched earth, exhaust every resource at our disposal, fight it until they pry it from our cold dead hands. Everything that can be done is being done.
Endowment.
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Rumblings that a show cause is on the slate just before NCAA staff furloughs begin.
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Beaty has taught me to love these for the very public discovery process that will hopefully torch KU and the NCAA
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Don’t do this to yourself
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What are we doing to ourselves?
I'll believe it when and if it happens.
But the dude who nails a lot of crap on KSO said there's some rumblings.
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https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article246775637.html
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1) lol that the website they have you go to is suspended
2) What could we get past them and have sitting in the piss barn?
https://kuathletics.com/kansas-athletics-launches-fan-cutout-program-for-2020-21-basketball-season/
Kansas Athletics reserves the right to reject any photo that it determines, in its sole discretion, violates these guidelines or is otherwise offensive, lewd, derogatory, infringing, discriminatory or otherwise inappropriate. If your photo is rejected, an athletics staff member will contact you about obtaining a new photo.
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We apologize if you tried to order a Fan Cutout yesterday and were unable to access the website. We knew there would be incredible interest among KU fans, but yesterday's overwhelming response was just too much for the website to handle. However, we've worked with our partners to improve the website's traffic capabilities and are happy to have the Fan Cutout Program back online.
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1) lol that the website they have you go to is suspended
2) What could we get past them and have sitting in the piss barn?
https://kuathletics.com/kansas-athletics-launches-fan-cutout-program-for-2020-21-basketball-season/
Kansas Athletics reserves the right to reject any photo that it determines, in its sole discretion, violates these guidelines or is otherwise offensive, lewd, derogatory, infringing, discriminatory or otherwise inappropriate. If your photo is rejected, an athletics staff member will contact you about obtaining a new photo.
Star Trek faces
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2) What could we get past them and have sitting in the piss barn?
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Lmao
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Doc is pretty lol.
A guy in a MAGA hat would get them worked up.
Maybe Faroukhmanesh (sp?).
For K-State specific ones I would do Dramane Diarra, Sky Thomas and Wooly.
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Shop a skinhead wearing a frank martin mows my lawn t-shirt
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2) What could we get past them and have sitting in the piss barn?
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2) What could we get past them and have sitting in the piss barn?
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So Good. :ROFL:
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2) What could we get past them and have sitting in the piss barn?
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lol, I didn't even notice the faces in the crowd the first three times I saw this, I only noticed the sideline board.
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Ha, I didn't even notice the board!
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Doctagon of Doom
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_33 is terrific
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Neckbrace Wooly would be hilarious.
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Doc the phog
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Yes, I agree
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Bricks are on sale for $50 from $75.
Allen Fieldhouse Brick
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Now's your chance to own a piece of Allen Fieldhouse! This brick was part of Allen Fieldhouse for roughly 60 years from it's opening in 1955 until being removed in 2015 during renovations that allowed the DeBruce Center to be connected to Allen Fieldhouse via the Naismith Rules Gallery. Each brick is unique and comes with a Certificate of Authenticity from Kansas Athletics.
https://offer.fevo.com/2020-kansas-athletics-holiday-offers-e034b41?fevoUri=2020-kansas-athletics-holiday-offers-e034b41%2Fallen-fieldhouse-brick-ovqifg4-9907148
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They seem to be doping well
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I can’t believe that it’s been 10 years since I had the privilege of witnessing David Booth win the auction for the Original Rules of Basketball from his office in Austin, Texas.
https://kuathletics.com/10-year-anniversary-of-the-purchase-of-the-original-rules-of-basketball/
https://video.wmt.media/embed/c8eab9eb-dfb1-44e2-adb4-ac924201d931
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Watching that 30 for 30 was a regrettable decision
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:frown:
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article247712520.html
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:Ughhh:
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I just this very moment became aware that they lost to osu on Tuesday. Such a weird season
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They won't even compete for the B12. The scandal is taking its toll on the program and their only option seems to be to dump Self
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Guys, 16 years in a row either K-State or KU have won the B12... and it's looking like KU won't be able to hold up their end of it this year. :sad:
Another streak dead.
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Have they had issues recruiting top tier talent? Seems like Agbaji is their best player.
Also the other "blue blood" schools suck this year as well (Kentucky, Duke, and NC).
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Have they had issues recruiting top tier talent? Seems like Agbaji is their best player.
Also the other "blue blood" schools suck this year as well (Kentucky, Duke, and NC).
I think I saw a headline about some Addidas investigation with possible NCAA Tourney bans hanging over their head but its just basketball so I didn't bother to read the article.
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Have they had issues recruiting top tier talent? Seems like Agbaji is their best player.
Also the other "blue blood" schools suck this year as well (Kentucky, Duke, and NC).
I think Covid has made it tougher for teams that generally rely on young talent to get up to speed.
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since they're complete trash this year, i'm assuming they'll put themselves on probation and not take part in the tournament but who knows, math is hard
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doubtful they volunteer to give up the 30ish straight NCAA appearances as it is one of the few things they can lord over the blue bloods
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doubtful they volunteer to give up the 30ish straight NCAA appearances as it is one of the few things they can lord over the blue bloods
That, and I haven't seen much evidence suggesting that self-imposed penalties result in greater leniency. Also, it's a tacit admission of (some) guilt. Thus far, KU is holding the line that they've done nothing wrong. A self-imposed punishment would be inconsistent with that position.
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i bet that ku lobbies the powers that be to just cancel the tournament again this year (after having their students spread as much covid as possible to increase infection rates across the globe) so that they don't have to miss an appearance
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Did they ask Trump to grant them a pardon?
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Doubt they have the 2 million required for a bribe :frown:
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Are they broke? Sharing marketing departments with KSTATEO?
Roses are Crimson
Violets are Blue
Celebrate V-Day
On the Court at KU!
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someone needs to go just to take pics of all the karls and karlas that will inevitably be filling this place
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Nothing says I love you like the smell of piss and the echo of JOCO Jones convo from the table over.
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3rd loss in a row, 4-4 in conference. :frown:
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Sad they’re still going to trounce us by a zillion
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Did a little light reading of the phog today and oh my, they are turning on self?!? L O L
Yeah dude, everyone laughed at you when you signed with Adidas and now you are finding out why.
Last season was because of Dev and Doke, not the staff. There’s *zero* excuse for being *this* bad. The Nike Collegiate Athletic Mafia cancelled the tournament under the guise of “corona.” It was a safe cop out for them because they knew it’d be bad for business (Nike) if Kansas (Adidas) dominated in March and April. They didn’t want another Louisville in 2013 situation. Nike programs have a monopoly on the National Championship in both College Basketball and College Football, and it should come as a surprise to nobody.
Alexa, inject.
The next 2-3 years will be our Bataan Death March. This year: MAYBE squeak into tourney. Next Year: probably marginally better on the court but off the court...whoa Nelly. MASSIVE sanctions....definitely no tourney. Self leaves “voluntarily” after next season. 3rd year: new coach and we hold our collective breath as to whether we turn into the next Indiana. Book it
This "life long fan" deserves big12 titles and elite 8's every year!
Life long fan and somewhat sad my attitude is shifting towards getting entirely new staff , feels like self and staff have been running on fat and lazy for a couple years now . No excuse for the recruiting fails and this years team is miserable .
Delicious salty tears, mmmmmmm
The writing is on the wall. The recruiting will not improve until the NCAA finally drops the sanctions. Time to cut ties, take our punishment and find a new coach imo. Time to Roy it up
This was followed by suggestions like Brad Stevens and Chris Beard
If Self gets canned, or leaves, who does KU pick to replace him?
The game has passed ole billy self by
I have no idea. I like Self and he’s been great, so it’s conflicting. But basketball is becoming more offensively oriented and aside from his inbounds plays, Self is not an offensively oriented coach...I feel like the game has evolved past him a bit in that respect. He’s been overcoming that issue in past years with superior talent but with the ncaa issue and struggling recruiting that comes with it, it feels like that’s not gonna get better soon. I just don’t see any player on the roster and think, that guy’s gonna be a stud next year...we don’t have that type of talent anymore. The other part of me recognizes that it’s stupid to part with such a coach when there aren’t that many hot commodities out there. I just don’t like where the program is going or what the future prospects look like. Again, it’s conflicting. I know I’m overreacting. But ku needs an offensive system that nba level kids wanna play in.
ETA: Self’s teams usually peak in January/February. This team seems to be getting worse. That’s really bad news. It’s late January, and this team still has zero identity
A SIX SEED?!? BUT WE ARE KU!!!
Absolute best case scenario is winning all the games we should and going 3-3 against Tennessee, Texas, Baylor, West Virginia, Tech, and Oklahoma State. That puts us at 18-8 going into the Big 12 tournament, which we very likely don’t win.
So best case scenario means 9 losses going into the NCAA tournament. That’s probably good for a 5 seed. There’s a good chance we end up as a 6+.
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Cancelling the NCAA tournament to get at KU and Adidas is pretty great
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I've never seen a fan base cry about the refs as much as they were today.
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https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1355230226658197504?s=20
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Hmmmmm, I'm not going to lie, guys. This does not look good.
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Which assistant was it
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I'm sure this is just a misunderstanding
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Disgusting to see the 2nd Circuit resorting to fake evidence to get in on this witch hunt. Judge Lynch should be voted out.
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I'd bet anything it was Townshend.
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Was going to guess Howard because it seems like he’s more of a dumbass
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You have to really feel for ku to be continually victimized by these predators paying players to pick their school.
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We truly are a victim of our own success. These chains ...
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We truly are a victim of our own success. These chains ...
KU hoops is v high level midmajor-y this year which is kind of fun I suppose, could be the next 5 or so as well....
You have a much higher opinion of this iteration KHOOPS than I do.
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folks, check this crap out
https://twitter.com/Fields_Lando/status/1355279721274224645
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Just heard him self drop a “the big 12 didn’t do us any favors by scheduling this game when they did”
Man he’s really hit rock bottom
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KU’s run was unreal, it will never be equaled in this conference. Scott Drew, Shaka Smart and Beard will take turns now.
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Is that Timhawk?
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Is that Timhawk?
I think it's a new sparkplug transfer brought in by CK. Could be the next Sproles :dunno:
https://www.hudl.com/profile/8650043/Landen-Fields
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https://twitter.com/thehawkquake/status/1355252494826262528?s=21
Thehawkquake with his finger on the pulse
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It's not that the tape doesn't exist, it's that it was not allowed to be introduced into evidence, right? Thus, all the hearsay about what is on said tape is exactly that, right?
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Yeah makes sense
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I think it’s a matter of criminal court vs ncaa cheating court
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Haha
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We truly are a victim of our own success. These chains ...
KU hoops is v high level midmajor-y this year which is kind of fun I suppose, could be the next 5 or so as well....
You have a much higher opinion of this iteration KHOOPS than I do.
Think they pay Beard a bunch of money to say goodbye to Lubbock? 6 mill buyout :dunno:
Don't know or care. Nor do I even care to speculate, prognosticate, or conjecturize. I don't think I've ever cared less about KU sports. Apres moi, le deluge.
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To put it more eloquently, I really don't care do u?
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Part of me misses when I cared a whole bunch.
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Part of me misses when I cared a whole bunch.
it worked out for me because I don't have time to anyway. I grew up and ksu grew shitty.
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Really appreciate some of the angles KU fandom takes on these things.
If this goes on anywhere else, KU T-shirt nation completely losses their crap.
When it goes on at KU, it's just KU taking care of of the poor put upon student athletes and gosh everybody does it.
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ku kinda looks like crap.
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ku kinda looks like crap.
It’s surreal
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will this be the first time in history that the sec has ever beat the big 12 in a basketball challenge?
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will this be the first time in history that the sec has ever beat the big 12 in a basketball challenge?
Broadcast said second
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will this be the first time in history that the sec has ever beat the big 12 in a basketball challenge?
Broadcast said second
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2018. The Big 12 has only won it 4 times.
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Actually fell asleep watching the second half of the KU-Vols game. The Jayhawks are as boring as the 2021 Cats.
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Actually fell asleep watching the second half of the KU-Vols game. The Jayhawks are as boring as the 2021 Cats.
Very boring. I watched the first 10 minutes of the first half. We were down around 13 points, and I just knew we weren't going to come back, so I switched to video games.
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Is this easily the ugliest ku team of all time? I know that is a very, very high standard to surpass
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It doesn't matter much cause we suck so much, but this ku team is also the most pedestrian ku team in probably 30 years. They have at least 4 more losses on the schedule, and could lose 1 or 2 more depending on how the ball bounces.
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Any chance they miss the tournament? I would hate it if both Kansas schools' streaks were broken this year.
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Any chance they miss the tournament? I would hate it if both Kansas schools' streaks were broken this year.
We're still ranked! (Although in imminent danger of losing our record streak of consecutive weeks ranked in the top 25!)
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Any chance they miss the tournament? I would hate it if both Kansas schools' streaks were broken this year.
We're still ranked! (Although in imminent danger of losing our record streak of consecutive weeks ranked in the top 25!)
oscar knows this and will let KU win tomorrow in order to help our sunflower brothers out.
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I was unaware we played KU tomorrow until I opened the ESPN app just now. Wow they suck ass this year.
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Any chance they miss the tournament? I would hate it if both Kansas schools' streaks were broken this year.
No.
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tomorrow's game is on espn+
probably would have watched a little bit of it but not going to subscribe to that crap
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tomorrow's game is on espn+
probably would have watched a little bit of it but not going to subscribe to that crap
Same
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tomorrow's game is on espn+
probably would have watched a little bit of it but not going to subscribe to that crap
Same
Not very ksugrad of you
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tomorrow's game is on espn+
probably would have watched a little bit of it but not going to subscribe to that crap
Same
Not very ksugrad of you
Not about the money, I just don't want to pay for a face slap.
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The WVU loss was Kansas' fifth straight road loss, which is the first time they have lost five games in a row on the road since 1982-83....a time when Larry Brown had just taken over and was gathering the talent for his 1984 final four run with a freshman Danny Manning. But now, we don't see the Hawks reloading with talent. They are winning recruiting battles against Creighton and Georgetown, and not against blue bloods and other fashionable programs.
Is this the new normal for the Hawks?
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Yea their run is over. It was one hell of a run though.
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The WVU loss was Kansas' fifth straight road loss, which is the first time they have lost five games in a row on the road since 1982-83....a time when Larry Brown had just taken over and was gathering the talent for his 1984 final four run with a freshman Danny Manning. But now, we don't see the Hawks reloading with talent. They are winning recruiting battles against Creighton and Georgetown, and not against blue bloods and other fashionable programs.
Is this the new normal for the Hawks?
I briefly scanned the Phog yesterday. A lot of them are convinced that they are the new Indiana. Crazy what can happen to a program when they aren't allowed to pay players thousands of dollars to attend anymore.
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Yeah. Christian Braun is a nice player but that’s the position that they buy a kid to come in take care of for a year or two.
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On the Spracne Scale (SS, mein jungen), which is based on a very scientific, rules-based, quantitative methodology, this team gets a 2 (on a scale of 7) in terms of how much effort I make to actually watch the games that I am aware are happening. Keep in mind that the effort needed to watch a game that I am aware is happening is very low.
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It's okay Spracs, we all know you're a bandwagon KU T-Shirt fan.
No need to explain it to us here.
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T-shirt fan? KU paid me good money to obtain a degree there :nono:
Also, I don't own any KU t-shirts :gocho:
I'm primarily a UT fan these days, though.
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T-shirt fan? KU paid me good money to obtain a degree there :nono:
Also, I don't own any KU t-shirts :gocho:
I'm primarily a UT fan these days, though.
:Yuck:
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Texas is irl America’s team. Good choice.
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Out of the AP top 25, another streak ended after 12 years. :frown:
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The WVU loss was Kansas' fifth straight road loss, which is the first time they have lost five games in a row on the road since 1982-83....a time when Larry Brown had just taken over and was gathering the talent for his 1984 final four run with a freshman Danny Manning. But now, we don't see the Hawks reloading with talent. They are winning recruiting battles against Creighton and Georgetown, and not against blue bloods and other fashionable programs.
Is this the new normal for the Hawks?
I briefly scanned the Phog yesterday. A lot of them are convinced that they are the new Indiana. Crazy what can happen to a program when they aren't allowed to pay players thousands of dollars to attend anymore.
They wish they could be Indiana.
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:love: :love: :love:
2 of the past 3 years have been Self's worse teams at KU. This isn't ending until the investigation is wrapped up. Even then we have no idea what recruiting will look like.
I’m just not sure Self is as hungry as he used to be either. Between 2010, 2011, 2016, 2017, and 2020 he should have won another national title. Maybe it’s getting to him.
I still think he’s capable of winning another but I think that’s going to require reworking the staff, bringing in some connected assistants from the AAU scene, and some small changes to our offensive and defensive philosophies.
If the staff continues to remain Norm, Norm, KT, and Snacks then I think it’s a real tell tale sign that Self is content just riding this thing out.
These are the quotes that really fire me up. He has almost no talent on the roster. That is on him, not the players. He can’t recruit because of NCAA violations. Ok, that is also on him. A really big part of coaching is how well you recruit. I am sure that Nick Sagan is a great X’s and O’s Guy but he works his ass off getting best players. When are a lot of you guys gonna start to question HCBS and effort?
This is on Self. The game plan preparation, his staff and roster construction. But yet people are going to continue to die on the hill of “well we would have won it last year” shtick or the “it was just their night.” At some point, it’s not a coincidence that VCU, Wichita, Oregon, auburn, USC all go bonkers from 3 in our season ending loss. This is a top 3 worst loss in program history.
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We have been blitzkrieged so many times in the tournament. At a certain point the only one to blame is Self.
Bucknell, Bradley, Northern Iowa, VCU, the last 5 minutes against Michigan, Wichita State, Oregon, Villanova, Auburn, now USC.
It’s possible each of those programs’ most impressive moment in school history came in their respective game mentioned above against KU. Nova won two titles, but that 14 three-point half against KU was probably their most impressive stretch of play under Wright in what was a de facto title game. Shaka Smart is STILL EMPLOYED based solely on that VCU game from a decade ago.
This fanbase deserves it when we become Indiana...I still think Indiana would be wise to go hard after Self right now. And he might just take it. Then all us will watch the wonderful administration here make an awesome hire like they do in every other sport. Enjoy Mark Turgeon or Tad Boyle, guys KU will hire when Self is gone, neither of whom will ever make it beyond the Sweet 16. And that drop off will be well deserved for this incredibly spoiled fanbase.
Bill is at a crossroads here. This team has to get better in less than a year. We are trying to find good/great transfers to supplement the recruiting misses, and it just isn't working.
Thing that was alarming to me, in the postgame self said team was unprepared and out coached. That’s fine Nov-early Jan. But if you’re not prepared in March in the biggest game of the season, that’s a reflection on the coaching staff being lazy and outdated quite frankly. And that is the exact same thing he said in 2019 too, that’s what’s really concerning about this program
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People keep griping about the results but overlooking the cause. Three years under a de facto probation has drained the depth of talent on this team. Self can't overcome that elephant. Remember the "Arizona, NC State, LSU are still recruiting great" talk? UA missed the tourney and Miller is about to be on the street. LSU got bounced by Michigan. NCState didn't make the dance. A good parallel is UNC. Roy's recruiting took a hit for a couple of years during the academic scandal. After it cleared up, 5*s were magically going to UNC again. (oh, and Ol' Roy got his a$$ handed to him this tourney too and where are Nike's favored children, UK and Duke? Home.)
Admit it—the roster talent from 2004 to 2012ish was materially different than what we’ve had in the time since then. A few hidden gems like Graham and Mason kept us elite, but even before the investigation Self wasn’t killing it. The investigation has made things far worse.
A big ole L O L at Self's "Mediocrity"
He makes too much money for mediocrity. Let's get this ncaa thing done so he can recruit real players. A bunch of bench players won't cut it. He makes over$ 7 million a year.
Anyone care to try to defend 3-4 the last seven years in the round of 32? Good guy, horrible tournament coach.
Self needs to do some self reflecting as a coach, no pun intended. But to win at the level we have in the regular season & come out in tourney games and just lay an absolute turd, he has to change something. Switch up the assistants. We can’t play like Georgetown in the 80’s. The game has passed by Self a little and he’s too stubborn for his own good. Last 5/6 tourney games we got absolutely pantsed, tarred and feathered. I mean cmon usc is good but not 19 points better than us good. Would like to see Self shake up the staff and make playing style.
This is a guards game and quite frankly, if you can’t shoot well from 3, you really stand no chance. I love Self, but the man is wayyyyyyy too stubborn for his own good to sometimes step back and realize he might be the problem in these games
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https://twitter.com/rockchalkblog/status/1374188618684755976?s=21
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I'm warning you Jayhawkers. If you run off Bill Self, you will regret it the rest of your days. He's an amazing coach, but he's just not getting the support from donors that you get at UNC and Duke. LOOK IN THE MIRROR, JAYHAWKERS! :don'tcare:
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USC defeated No. 3 seed Kansas 85-51 on Monday night to reach the Sweet 16 of the NCAA men’s basketball tournament – handing the Jayhawks the third worst defeat in program history. Prior to Monday’s game, Kansas had suffered just eight 30-point losses in program history, the most recent being a 72-40 loss to Kentucky in 2014.
It's been 7 years since Bill Self lost by 30. Other programs do that multiple times a season, and their fans still fondle their balls.
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I am reminded of Nebraska's old reputation of having the "classiest fans in America" whilst they rough ridin' piss pounded everyone by a bajillion points. Now, Nebraska fans are amongst the most loathed in their conference.
I hope this doesn't happen to KU fans. :frown:
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I mean, I have personally in person, been to see KU in the elite 8 3 times, personally. I am TSC, guys, so I can say stuff like this.
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How many times do we talk about "anything beyond a Final Four is just the cherry," when UK, Duke and UNC's fanbases are out there saying "fuq the Final Four! Natty or Nothin'!" UConn has four natties in the last 20 years. Roy got all three of his in the same amount of time and during the same period Bill's been at KU. K has five natties, the last three in the last 20 years. Jay Wright has two natties in five years. Even if Calipari has one natty, he still has one more Final Four than Self in a shorter period of time. So what's the diff?
At a certain point, you have to stop chalking it up to luck when the same guys are winning it all over and over and over in the same era. They clearly have been doing something Self and KU haven't.
Jay Wright would have won 3 or 4 titles had he coached at KU for 16 years like Self
He won 2 at Nova and doesn't even land half the talent Self lands at KU
But as long as KU keeps winning conference titles in a conference that hasn't produced a national champion outside of KU since the 1950's a large portion of the fanbase will continue to be satisfied with those results, oh and AFH is rated the best home court advantage in CBB, we got that going for us as well
I mean, whether it's shooters or big men, Coach Self needs to recruit some ALPHA DOGS! I feel like we've attracted almost nothing but ballerinas since T-Rob, Releford and Withey left. We've had a couple bright spots with Mason and D'tae, but they didn't have a sidekick they could really rely on. I thought after the K-State stool game last year that we had a team with some real fight in them. But, alas, Doke and DeSousa never got to stare down anybody last year in the tourney. And, to be fair, they both were such. long. projects to even get there.
Gimme some cagers, man. Gimme guys that are gonna lean into a big man and get into shoving matches in the tunnel like the Morii did against Richmond. Gimme Taylor/T-Rob again. Gimme Collins/Aldrich. Gimme the Morii. Gimme Withey/Releford. I want some guys who are just plain old "don't wanna meet me in a dark alley" kind of intimidating.
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Why couldn't Roy Williams win a National Championship at Kansas? He goes to UNC and he basically starts pooping them out of his butt.
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Sure, KU is a blue blood, you can't deny that. But kids really, really don't want to live in Lawrence rough ridin' Kansas if they have other options.
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Yeah, Kansas as a state is not super sexy with youngsters.
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When I think "alpha dog" I think Jeff Withey.
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Running off Bill Self would usher in “The Curse”. No way they are that stupid.
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Running off Bill Self would usher in “The Curse”. No way they are that stupid.
Nobody wants to run Bill Self off. They're just bitching.
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Running off Bill Self would usher in “The Curse”. No way they are that stupid.
Nobody wants to run Bill Self off. They're just bitching.
Hope so, because while some of it is gE about ushering a curse, ku has been as a program amazingly lucky to have the run they've had, one misstep and poof this is norm not the exception.
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I mean Bill Self is the best coach the conference has ever seen, by quite a bit.
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Sure, KU is a blue blood, you can't deny that. But kids really, really don't want to live in Lawrence rough ridin' Kansas if they have other options.
It's almost like that adidas money dried up or something
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Working theory is that Bill quit recruiting (spending years developing relationships with kids/families etc) after the title. Whatever they needed seemed to just fall together after that. At least with bigs and wing players.
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Going to play for KU at this point is like buying stock in GameStop. Party's over.
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Nike is still paying top dollar, so if I am a 5 star, I am going to a Nike school, or a school with boosters who will pay top dollar despite the risk, so my Mom can start getting paid for being the world's greatest Mom ASAP! There are still going to be kids who do not love their Mom as much and do not want the best for their Mom ASAP. KU is still going to be a very, very attractive option for those kids.
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Going to play for KU at this point is like buying stock in GameStop. Party's over.
That is amazing.
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not like it matters but technically it's a better time to buy stock in GameStop now, compared to when the party was going on.
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I know it won't happen, but it would be amazing if they ran off Bill Self.
It would be double amazing if Self then went to Indiana and won a NC.
I feel like their amazing run of purchased dominance is coming to an end though.
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Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.
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Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.
Does Nebraska have a Marc Cuban?
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Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.
Does Nebraska have a Marc Cuban?
Indiana will win a NC within a decade.
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Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.
Does Nebraska have a Marc Cuban?
lol, really?
(https://news.unl.edu/sites/default/files/buffettx_0.jpg)
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Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.
Does Nebraska have a Marc Cuban?
Indiana will win a NC within a decade.
What? Do you have any idea how long ago 1987 was?
You'd have to put every single school on this list before you would Indiana.
Gonzaga
Baylor
Texas Tech
West Virginia
UCLA
Oregon
Alabama
Kentucky
Florida
Arkansas
Michigan
Illinois
Ohio State
Michigan State
Virginia
North Carolina
Duke
Florida State
Houston
Creighton
Villanova
UConn
I'm not even adding the programs clearly better but have NCAA issues looming, Kansas and Arizona. I'm also not adding schools I think have been consistently better than Indiana in the life of current high school and college students like Louisville, Memphis, Wichita State, USC, Iowa, Wisconsin, Texas, Oklahoma, and Syracuse.
Right now they don't have either the program or the coach. Even if they get Belein I still don't know if I would guarantee they are going to win a championship in a decade, he didn't at Michigan and he's 68 years old now, he isn't going to be coaching in a decade. They better throw all that Cuban money at Porter Mosier and hope he isn't a bust.
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I mean, Texas rough ridin' Tech went to the E8 in year 2, and the Natty in year 3 with Beard.
College basketball programs can flip in just a couple years with the right hire.
All but a few P5's (the ones that can't keep the right coach for more than 1 or 2 years) can win a Natty in the next 10 years.
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Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.
Does Nebraska have a Marc Cuban?
lol, really?
(https://news.unl.edu/sites/default/files/buffettx_0.jpg)
he donates almost nothing to the university though. and zero to sports. it enrages them. I don't believe he will leave them anything either.
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Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.
Does Nebraska have a Marc Cuban?
lol, really?
(https://news.unl.edu/sites/default/files/buffettx_0.jpg)
he donates almost nothing to the university though. and zero to sports. it enrages them. I don't believe he will leave them anything either.
Apparently Cuban didn't either, until he had to, that's if he even did so now.
https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/dont-expect-mark-cuban-to-fund-archie-millers-buyout/
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good move by both sides of this deal. just agree to power through it together.
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good move by both sides of this deal. just agree to power through it together.
College sports are such a dirty business.
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good move by both sides of this deal. just agree to power through it together.
:ROFL: Bill Self just worked the eff out of the school president
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What self-respecting AD would sign off on such a corrupt self-pardon (pun intended) ... oh, never mind.
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Likelihood they can get someone better than Self is pretty low, slugging out sanctions doesn't seem like a bad plan aside from the fact that the NCAA can easily blow it up.
NCAA can't do that. Even if they hit him with a show cause that just means someone else can't hire him. Dan Mullen is under a show cause right now that he got hit with while at Florida.
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Some sort of multiple year post season ban would kind of blow it up. At least I'd assume that would be the outcome, but maybe Self would be okay with that and try and work in a backdoor way to win NITs?
I guess I don't know what "blow it up" means. Even with a multi year post season ban, I think the combination of Self and KU will be back. It will never be what it was, but they won't be Indiana as long as he's there because he's the right coach. I don't think that Townsend "retiring" will do much to stop them from being a contender in most years.
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Some sort of multiple year post season ban would kind of blow it up. At least I'd assume that would be the outcome, but maybe Self would be okay with that and try and work in a backdoor way to win NITs?
Can they attend NITs with a post season ban? :confused:
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Some sort of multiple year post season ban would kind of blow it up. At least I'd assume that would be the outcome, but maybe Self would be okay with that and try and work in a backdoor way to win NITs?
Can they attend NITs with a post season ban? :confused:
Nope.
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STEVE
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The only artist that I would like to see if you could do a 920 no scope
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https://kuathletics.com/staff/travis-goff/
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Certainly could have done worse
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Goff's first big task will be to set the course for a moribund football program already going through spring practice under wide receivers coach Emmett Jones, picked to serve as the interim coach last month.
The downtrodden Jayhawks lost all nine of their games last season. They have not had a winning season since Mark Mangino was on the sideline in 2008, cycling through Turner Gill, Charlie Weis, interim coach Clint Bowen, David Beaty and Miles without finding a way to return to prominence.
Goff is expected to lead the search for the next football coach, though the timeline for that hiring remains unclear.
Along with deep-seated fan apathy, the Jayhawks have some of the worst facilities in the Big 12 -- despite a new indoor practice facility -- and have struggled for years to generate money and support to upgrade Memorial Stadium.
Goff also must deal with potential NCAA sanctions facing the Jayhawks' storied basketball program.
The program was hit with five Level I charges tied to recruiting, one directed at Self, as part of the fallout of an FBI investigation into college basketball corruption. Kansas has staunchly defended itself against the allegations, and the case is going through the NCAA's new independent appeals process, with a decision expected later this year.
"Travis understands the challenges we face and the changing landscape of collegiate athletics," Kansas Chancellor Doug Girod said. "At the same time, he is well-positioned to help us build on our recent successes in student-athlete health care, diversity and inclusion, and student-athlete academic achievement. The fact that he is a Jayhawk is an added bonus."
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Goff: I want the job but how can I be absolved for never firing Self?
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LOL at that guy being Bill Self's "boss"
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The Paul Pierce stuff is hilarious and awesome. I hate that I like him now.
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Did this narrow the candidate pool?
KU also made Goff agree in his contract that, in the last 15 years, he had not:
• been accused of sexual harassment or sexual assault;
• retaliated against any student, co-worker or supervisor for making a sexual harassment or sexual assault claim;
• engaged in any form of sexual harassment or sexual assault;
• been found guilty of sexual assault of sexual harassment;
• entered into any settlement agreement related to sexual assault or harassment allegations.
Former KU football coach Les Miles mutually parted ways with the school last month after previous allegations of sexual harassment surfaced from his time as LSU’s coach a decade ago.
Another clause in Goff’s contract also states he must consult with the chancellor before giving any athletic department contract that lasts more than one year or has a value of more than $500,000.
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I mean, beyond the low pay and being excluded from hoops?
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Did this narrow the candidate pool?
KU also made Goff agree in his contract that, in the last 15 years, he had not:
• been accused of sexual harassment or sexual assault;
• retaliated against any student, co-worker or supervisor for making a sexual harassment or sexual assault claim;
• engaged in any form of sexual harassment or sexual assault;
• been found guilty of sexual assault of sexual harassment;
• entered into any settlement agreement related to sexual assault or harassment allegations.
Former KU football coach Les Miles mutually parted ways with the school last month after previous allegations of sexual harassment surfaced from his time as LSU’s coach a decade ago.
Another clause in Goff’s contract also states he must consult with the chancellor before giving any athletic department contract that lasts more than one year or has a value of more than $500,000.
The real question is what did Goff do in 2005 or before? :surprised:
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https://twitter.com/chasenscott/status/1379568068351950848?s=21
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https://twitter.com/chasenscott/status/1379568068351950848?s=21
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I guess we know why KT Turner was available. I know KU's recruitment hasn't been what they've grown used to the past few years, but I still think it's been very good considering the circumstances. This is gonna sting.
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If this happens it’s because Self wants him to move on.
I also don't think he'd be going there to assume the same position unless Self was all for it. I'm sure he'd try to keep him otherwise. So if there's truth to this rumor and he does make the move, imo Self must've been okay with it.
I think if Self really wanted to keep him, he would have. If it was about money, all he'd have to do is ask the BMDs to help out and I have no doubt they would have. The resources are there for Self and the men's basketball program imo.
I think Texas just took what it wanted.Not unless Self was good with it, imo.
Self GUARANTEED "let" this happen.
People close to KU aren't shocked by the Jerrance Howard move. Was always likely on his way out and had been eyeing Texas during the season.
I find 0% likelihood that Self lets Snacks move on if he wanted him on the staff. Money is not an objective. KU would find the money to match or exceed any offer and it wouldn't be that hard. Basketball is the lifeblood and identity of the University. Texas basketball is an interesting diversion after football season and before Spring practice. Their new arena is 40% SMALLER than their existing arena (16.6K vs 10K). That doesn't scream basketball passion. It screams "something to do in the winter".
Phog gonna phog
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:lol:
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Those posts were all before the official announcement. THESE are after it was official.
I doubt Self and KU let him leave to go to Texas if they wanted to keep him.
Yeah I won’t miss him he was a middle of the road assistant whose recruiting didn’t really live up to the hype. Some new blood on the staff will be welcome.
Not sure why he'd prefer Texas over Kansas with the coach he played for.
Lots of ways to interpret this:
1. Just part of Self's planned changes. Knows he has someone better on the way, helped Snacks find a landing place.
2. Snacks knows the hammer is about to drop and wanted out quickly.
3. Texas offered more money and we didn't want to match.
More #1, some #3 - but if Self wanted to keep him we would have
his contract was up and KU chose not to renew it.
I felt like the staff was getting a little stale, even though I didn't anticipate Snacks, sometimes I wonder how good of a coach he was anyways.
I'm betting he gets a pay raise and doubtful that KU wouldn't match unless Self was fine with him leaving. More to this story I'm sure....
Starts getting a little salty as the news sets in...
Good news don't let the door hit you on the way out. Need better than him at a program like ours
Pretty much a downgrade. Blueblood to a place where people don't care about basketball
I see absolutely no way in which this sucks. In fact, I'll say Self needs to shake up his coaching staff.
It’s time for some new blood on the staff. Howard was kind of overhyped as this great recruiter and was kind of underwhelming. Didn’t seem like he was a great assistant, as I thought Self took him in the first place because he was a former player under him and wanted continuity.
Howard was supposed to be instrumental in us landing Chicago area talent and all we got out of that was Markese Jacobs and a suspension of Howard for smoking dope
I can understand Howard wanting to leave for more money but to go to a rival within the conference is pretty much just a Dick move!
I guess I was never super impressed with him. He came in and was touted as a top assistant/great recruiter and was pretty underwhelming
If you've ever been to a KU practice, Snacks was the guy that stood under the basket and threw the balls back to the shooters. Other than that, I never saw him do much of anything. He was the liaison of sorts for the staff.Exactly. That and jumping around on the sidelines. No loss.
If Self thought Howard leaving would significantly hurt our standing with recruits, I doubt Howard would be leaving.
Honest question with all we’ve learn with the Nike and Adidas money funnel does an assistant coach being a “good recruiter” mean jack anymore?
You want a hot take? Here’s your hot take. Snacks is a total Nike sneaker head, and he took this job so he can get better access to swoosh kicks.
I don’t think beard is going to be any better at texas then he was at TT.
Uh... so UT will be in the championship game a few years from now?
"Texas Athletics is Zimbabwe. Print money and throw it at your problems, only to see the homeless use it as fuel for their shanty fires."
Well, he's not wrong on that front.
There's more, but I have to get back to work.
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holy crap
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It's really kind of amazing (but not surprising) to see Phogistan still tied to the extremely old school seating capacity dogma. A model that has long since sailed in both the collegiate and professional facilities design/consulting/marketing.
I can assure you that if KU Basketball gets blasted by the NCAA and certain things unfold. You'll be able to fire howitzers full of birdshot into parts of AFH and not hit anybody during a game.
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I'm embarrassed for them after reading all of that. Gah.
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They're building a brand new $350 million arena that only holds 10k. That doesn't scream basketball passion to me.
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It's really kind of amazing (but not surprising) to see Phogistan still tied to the extremely old school seating capacity dogma. A model that has long since sailed in both the collegiate and professional facilities design/consulting/marketing.
I can assure you that if KU Basketball gets blasted by the NCAA and certain things unfold. You'll be able to fire howitzers full of birdshot into parts of AFH and not hit anybody during a game.
:lol:
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It's really kind of amazing (but not surprising) to see Phogistan still tied to the extremely old school seating capacity dogma. A model that has long since sailed in both the collegiate and professional facilities design/consulting/marketing.
I can assure you that if KU Basketball gets blasted by the NCAA and certain things unfold. You'll be able to fire howitzers full of birdshot into parts of AFH and not hit anybody during a game.
This. Guarantee that if Texas gets to winning that smaller arena will make more than any in Big 12 with the limited seats leading to higher prices
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The new arena has a giant luxary club level, they will probably get more money from that than all 16k at the piss barn
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So it's clear from those posts that they are convinced that they won't have NCAA sanctions. Instead of insisting that they didn't need him, never wanted him, shouldn't they just lash out at the NCAA for making this a thing?
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I’m uncomfortable with how similar this is getting to the post Tom Osborne era of NU football. :frown:
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I'm not sure what psychology term is used for people with egos so sensitive they become blind to the obvious, but I wish I did so I could use it now and look smart - ish.
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I took for granted KU being good at basketball, now it’s gone.
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I'm not sure what psychology term is used for people with egos so sensitive they become blind to the obvious, but I wish I did so I could use it now and look smart - ish.
The term cognitive dissonance comes to mind but there’s probably a more precise term
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It's really kind of amazing (but not surprising) to see Phogistan still tied to the extremely old school seating capacity dogma. A model that has long since sailed in both the collegiate and professional facilities design/consulting/marketing.
I can assure you that if KU Basketball gets blasted by the NCAA and certain things unfold. You'll be able to fire howitzers full of birdshot into parts of AFH and not hit anybody during a game.
This. Guarantee that if Texas gets to winning that smaller arena will make more than any in Big 12 with the limited seats leading to higher prices
Yes.
Nothing says we're not committed to basketball like an expenditure on a single facility that will cost more money than the entirety of KU's investment in athletics facilities . . . ever.
If my calculations are correct, KU is a distant last in total facilities investment in the Big 12 over the last 15 years. I'm not even going to count Rock Chalk Park becauses KU athletics didn't pay for it, and they're engaged in an embarrassing and :lol: lease arrangement on that cookie cutter gener-o any suburbia USA facility.
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How much of Texas's new arena is actually being paid for by the school or AD tho? I thought the city was chipping in a bunch, as it will also be used as a public event venue.
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How much of Texas's new arena is actually being paid for by the school or AD tho? I thought the city was chipping in a bunch, as it will also be used as a public event venue.
I believe originally a developer/property group/investment group (honestly not sure how to describe it) was paying for it/building it and would get all profits for a certain amount of time, then there would be profit sharing with UT after.
But then, the Moody Foundation donated like half the cost to UT to chip in for the Arena and I believe a new basketball practice facility... so I'm not really sure how any of it works now.
I do know it's everything I would want in a facility at K-State (we probably wouldn't even need the upper deck option to expand seating for events.)
(https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/4251e72/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1200x675+0+0/resize/880x495!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Flegacy%2Fsites%2Fkut%2Ffiles%2F201911%2FRendering_Approved_04_0.jpg)
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Yeah, the original renderings looked awesome. Not sure if the design has changed since. Definitely an upgrade over the Drum.
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How much of Texas's new arena is actually being paid for by the school or AD tho? I thought the city was chipping in a bunch, as it will also be used as a public event venue.
I believe originally a developer/property group/investment group (honestly not sure how to describe it) was paying for it/building it and would get all profits for a certain amount of time, then there would be profit sharing with UT after.
But then, the Moody Foundation donated like half the cost to UT to chip in for the Arena and I believe a new basketball practice facility... so I'm not really sure how any of it works now.
I do know it's everything I would want in a facility at K-State (we probably wouldn't even need the upper deck option to expand seating for events.)
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That thing is hot af
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How much of Texas's new arena is actually being paid for by the school or AD tho? I thought the city was chipping in a bunch, as it will also be used as a public event venue.
I believe originally a developer/property group/investment group (honestly not sure how to describe it) was paying for it/building it and would get all profits for a certain amount of time, then there would be profit sharing with UT after.
But then, the Moody Foundation donated like half the cost to UT to chip in for the Arena and I believe a new basketball practice facility... so I'm not really sure how any of it works now.
I do know it's everything I would want in a facility at K-State (we probably wouldn't even need the upper deck option to expand seating for events.)
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The upper deck thing is fascinating to me. Is it actually "expandable" or will they be tarping that sucker?
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I know there are other threads for stupid unrealistic facilities dreams, but I have always thought that revaming Ahearn to hold 8K or so would be fun, and make over half of it student seating...completely encircle the floor with first level student section and make a small upper deck almost all luxury seating and club for alumni who cough up cash.
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$130 million from Moody Foundation.
So that alone is: Anderson Football Complex, new indoor facility and all recent renovations to AFH combined over the last decade.
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I know there are other threads for stupid unrealistic facilities dreams, but I have always thought that revaming Ahearn to hold 8K or so would be fun, and make over half of it student seating...completely encircle the floor with first level student section and make a small upper deck almost all luxury seating and club for alumni who cough up cash.
I'm pony up some serious dough for a chance to watch a basketball game in Ahearn again. Bramlage is obviously a superior venue, and I wouldn't want a conference game in there, but I think it would be really neat to have 1 or 2 OOC games a year in Ahearn.
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Guys, Ahearn is a dumpy piece of trash, you don’t actually want that.
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Guys, Ahearn is a dumpy piece of trash, you don’t actually want that.
Let the olds drop $250 or whatever for a ticket to see the Cats play Fort Hays State in Ahearn. Its a win win situation.
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Guys, Ahearn is a dumpy piece of trash, you don’t actually want that.
Let the olds drop $250 or whatever for a ticket to see the Cats play Fort Hays State in Ahearn. Its a win win situation.
Actually, recent history suggests that we lose that game
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Yeah, this would definitely need to occur in the post-Weber bball era
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Guys, Ahearn is a dumpy piece of trash, you don’t actually want that.
And you could most likely build a new replica of it in the parking lot east of the BTF for the same amount you'd need to pump into Ahearn to make it inhabitable.
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A LOT of rough ridin' blasphemy on this blog nowadays. :don'tcare:
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Guys, Ahearn is a dumpy piece of trash, you don’t actually want that.
Yeah, it’s a pipe dream.
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I know there are other threads for stupid unrealistic facilities dreams, but I have always thought that revaming Ahearn to hold 8K or so would be fun, and make over half of it student seating...completely encircle the floor with first level student section and make a small upper deck almost all luxury seating and club for alumni who cough up cash.
I'm pony up some serious dough for a chance to watch a basketball game in Ahearn again.
You're way older than I thought
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I know there are other threads for stupid unrealistic facilities dreams, but I have always thought that revaming Ahearn to hold 8K or so would be fun, and make over half of it student seating...completely encircle the floor with first level student section and make a small upper deck almost all luxury seating and club for alumni who cough up cash.
I'm pony up some serious dough for a chance to watch a basketball game in Ahearn again.
You're way older than I thought
Nope, this is one of those lost in text type translations.
I have never seen a basketball game in Ahearn. I would love to have the opportunity to see a basketball game in Ahearn, should K-State men's basketball play there like they did in the past.
That's how I meant my previous post to read.
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Bramlage is in the absolute best location a basketball arena can be in MHK/on the K-State campus, especially being connected to the SEZ now.
There's plenty that can be done to make it not Bramlagey anymore. Hopefully they get really creative.
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It’s already a million times better than shitty, falling apart, and smelly afh
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when did volleyball stop using Ahearn? Turning it into an elite VB facility for 3 to 4k fans seems like a great use of a historic building. Playing a couple years of weekend BB noncons there would command premium ticket prices for at least a few seasons even with the current state of oscar's program.
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when did volleyball stop using Ahearn? Turning it into an elite VB facility for 3 to 4k fans seems like a great use of a historic building. Playing a couple years of weekend BB noncons there would command premium ticket prices for at least a few seasons even with the current state of oscar's program.
The money it would take to do required upgrades to host anything of substance in Ahearn is enormous from what I've heard.
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when did volleyball stop using Ahearn? Turning it into an elite VB facility for 3 to 4k fans seems like a great use of a historic building. Playing a couple years of weekend BB noncons there would command premium ticket prices for at least a few seasons even with the current state of oscar's program.
The money it would take to do required upgrades to host anything of substance in Ahearn is enormous from what I've heard.
seems like gene taylor could just release that information and not keep it a guarded secret but he seems to suck bad enough as an AD that he doesn't need any advice from me
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As someone who's actually been in Ahearn this year canco it's hot garb in there and would need a ton of money just to be ADA compatible.
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Gene needs to pay a bodyguard that will muzzle anyone who mentions Ahearn in his presence. The mere act of listening to any idea about Ahearn is incredibly expensive for the entire university. The only viable option here is to put up a fence around it, cover it with a giant drop cloth, and pretend that it doesn't even exist.
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A lot of you need to look up goal number 12. NO self limitations.
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What if we filled ahearn with water? Boom natatorium issue solved!
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Put dirt on the floor of the building, put out a raised floor, hang an Every Man A Wildcat banner somewhere and let everyone smokes cigs in the building for a night.
Boom. Ahearn remembered.
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I know there are other threads for stupid unrealistic facilities dreams, but I have always thought that revaming Ahearn to hold 8K or so would be fun, and make over half of it student seating...completely encircle the floor with first level student section and make a small upper deck almost all luxury seating and club for alumni who cough up cash.
Edgy people on this blog trash this Ahearn pipe dream but I have it too. Yes Ahearn sucks. Yes it's hot garbage and would be exorbitantly expensive to revamp. But arenas with history are cool too every once in a while for a small handful of non-con games a year, 'specially for those of us townie qat fans who are of the age where we just barely missed seeing a game in legendary 'hearn but grew up with everyone we know telling us how incredible it was. We all want luxury suites and jumbotrons long-term, but eff it...if we're playing Southern Utah, I'd stomach ancient and decrepit facilities to be able to enjoy a little history I missed out on. Especially if we use the old 1960s-era scoreboard where the game clock appeared to be an actual clock. You got a problem with my Ahearn pipe dream? Meet me up on the weird rafter/catwalk/press area (???) thing and we can settle this the way Dick Knostman and Lew Hitch would've.
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I am the old on here and attended games in Ahearn thru college. If its too costly to revamp,, and we're going to upgrade Bram is there a compromise scenario where we make Bram more Ahearny?
Give me a pitched roof with steel beams, a few windows to drop some sunlight in on the Saturday afternoon games. Wheel in a couple food trailers to sell popcorn. Give real Willie his own habitat by the club. Figure out how to incorporate those steep steps and little tunnels. Slap a little more limestone up.
They literally raised the roof on Gallagher Iba to add an upper deck. Surely the HIQE on here can draw this up.
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I didn't go to any games there, but I remember that's where I stood in line for my freshman enrollment/financial aid paperwork stuff. 1994 I think? I think Asbury was coach so I know we sucked anyway.
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I went to some games there, but I don't really remember them.
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I went to some games there, but I don't really remember them.
Yeah, I've been told I went to games there but was too young to remember.
The only time I remember even going in the building was because my macroecon teacher had an office in there and I needed to turn something in.
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In a weird way, it was actually a pretty decent venue for volleyball - just an odd/unique setup. Even with only 1,000 people, it would get decently loud. The lack of A/C did suck for August/September matches (I imagine opposing teams hated that since they weren't used to it).
I can't remember when, but in the late 90s/early 2000s, K-State hosted NCAAs instead of Nebraska and there were definitely all sorts of firecode violations when the corn people packed the stands (and endlessly bitched about having to come to MHK instead of hosting themselves).
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I am the old on here and attended games in Ahearn thru college. If its too costly to revamp,, and we're going to upgrade Bram is there a compromise scenario where we make Bram more Ahearny?
Give me a pitched roof with steel beams, a few windows to drop some sunlight in on the Saturday afternoon games. Wheel in a couple food trailers to sell popcorn. Give real Willie his own habitat by the club. Figure out how to incorporate those steep steps and little tunnels. Slap a little more limestone up.
They literally raised the roof on Gallagher Iba to add an upper deck. Surely the HIQE on here can draw this up.
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https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=26002.msg1669555#msg1669555
Here you go. Compliments of Shooter Jones.
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I know there are other threads for stupid unrealistic facilities dreams, but I have always thought that revaming Ahearn to hold 8K or so would be fun, and make over half of it student seating...completely encircle the floor with first level student section and make a small upper deck almost all luxury seating and club for alumni who cough up cash.
Edgy people on this blog trash this Ahearn pipe dream but I have it too. Yes Ahearn sucks. Yes it's hot garbage and would be exorbitantly expensive to revamp. But arenas with history are cool too every once in a while for a small handful of non-con games a year, 'specially for those of us townie qat fans who are of the age where we just barely missed seeing a game in legendary 'hearn but grew up with everyone we know telling us how incredible it was. We all want luxury suites and jumbotrons long-term, but eff it...if we're playing Southern Utah, I'd stomach ancient and decrepit facilities to be able to enjoy a little history I missed out on. Especially if we use the old 1960s-era scoreboard where the game clock appeared to be an actual clock. You got a problem with my Ahearn pipe dream? Meet me up on the weird rafter/catwalk/press area (???) thing and we can settle this the way Dick Knostman and Lew Hitch would've.
Northwestern renovated their arena, Welsh-Ryan for $110 million. It was built in 1952 with a capacity of 9,500 and now holds 7,039 (Ahearn opened in 1950 with 14,000 and closed in '88 around 12k to give you a size comparison). Bramlage renovations are projected at $85 million and will reduce capacity to introduce more luxury seating and a mid level concourse.
I mention Welsh Ryan because the interior might look familiar:
https://www.supportthecats.com/capital-projects/welsh-ryan-arena.html
https://twitter.com/NUMensBball/status/1058476786080759809
I am sure someone can photoshop a powercat onto the court.
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What a beaut.
But, we're stuck with Bramlage, guys. With the SEZ and $85 mill hopefully they can make chicken salad out of that chicken crap.
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when did volleyball stop using Ahearn? Turning it into an elite VB facility for 3 to 4k fans seems like a great use of a historic building. Playing a couple years of weekend BB noncons there would command premium ticket prices for at least a few seasons even with the current state of oscar's program.
Completely stop with no hope of going back? This season. It was a slow bleed of games to Bramlage before that though. Everything over there is just too cramped and old. There is a chance they might have to go to Ahearn for a match or two next November when basketball starts up, but Ahearn is dunzo as our volleyball home court.
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In a weird way, it was actually a pretty decent venue for volleyball - just an odd/unique setup. Even with only 1,000 people, it would get decently loud. The lack of A/C did suck for August/September matches (I imagine opposing teams hated that since they weren't used to it).
I can't remember when, but in the late 90s/early 2000s, K-State hosted NCAAs instead of Nebraska and there were definitely all sorts of firecode violations when the corn people packed the stands (and endlessly bitched about having to come to MHK instead of hosting themselves).
We actually hosted more than once. The record there is just over 5000 and that was for a regular season match against nubb. They didn't move the court, scoreboard set up didn't allow that, so there were people all the way to what would be midcourt for basketball. Those were super duper obstructed view seats. We had a couple of more crowds around 4000 and more around 3000 back then. Around the mid 2000's they capped capacity at around 2000 and they hung that giant tarp behind the student section to make sure everyone was contained to the south side of the building.
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I went to quite a few volleyball games at ahearn in 01/02 ish. It was fun!
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I am the old on here and attended games in Ahearn thru college. If its too costly to revamp,, and we're going to upgrade Bram is there a compromise scenario where we make Bram more Ahearny?
Give me a pitched roof with steel beams, a few windows to drop some sunlight in on the Saturday afternoon games. Wheel in a couple food trailers to sell popcorn. Give real Willie his own habitat by the club. Figure out how to incorporate those steep steps and little tunnels. Slap a little more limestone up.
They literally raised the roof on Gallagher Iba to add an upper deck. Surely the HIQE on here can draw this up.
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You have my attention. Or, give fake Willie his own habitat where he has to act like an actual wildcat, eat rodents, perch on limb and spray trees with urine
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I've remembered seeing somerhng in Ahearn. Willie doing a striptease. Took of layers of warm ups, uniform, down to undershirt and boxers (I think). Recurring bit. Everyone loved it.
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Do you think they can tear down Ahearn while they're renovating Bramlage and use some of the materials from the Ahearn shithouse in the reno?
Call it Bramlage Fieldhouse after and all is right in the world.
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Actually I believe Northwestern's renovation did what Butler's Hinkle Fieldhouse renovation did: re-oriented the court 90 degrees from what it used to be. It looks kind of weird with the rafters going the "wrong" way but now there are at least five schools I can think of whose court runs perpendicular to the rafters, so it's not as alarming anymore. Anyway, in doing so it allows them to stretch the rows behind the sidelines up higher than they used to, and behind the baskets now they just stack two really tiny 7-row decks on top of each other since the building doesn't allow much room to add rows back.
To wit...
Old Hinkle:
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New Hinkle:
(https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/styles/original/public-s3/images/2021/03/18/butler-university-hinkle-fieldhouse.jpg?itok=hFhZXAXF)
If we were ever to retrofit Ahearn, which we won't, I imagine we'd maybe have to do that? So many of these old fieldhouses doubled as armories and indoor track places and crap, so their dimensions don't always work great for hoops by today's sightline standards. That's why there were so many horrendous seats in Ahearn behind the baskets back in the day. It was very 90's Kyle Field'y.
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K-State Architecture students came up with the BFH plan for AFH, they were ignored.
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Actually I believe Northwestern's renovation did what Butler's Hinkle Fieldhouse renovation did: re-oriented the court 90 degrees from what it used to be.
You would be wrong. Welsh-Ryan Arena was always that way. Pre-renovation pic below as proof:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Welsh-Ryan_Arena.png)
Building hoops arenas in that orientation was also a thing. Here is Oregon State's Gill Coliseum:
(https://www.sportspac12.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Gill-Coliseum.jpg)
Same as the 40's when it was new:
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It’s that what basketball courts used to look like? I’m starting to think that maybe what happened was one day the good Doctor Naismith was doodling some fresh dongs and someone saw and was like “are...are those dicks?” And he was like “what?! No, it’s...uh, it’s a new game I invented, its called...basketball. Now build a museum and put this drawing in it. Wait, no, not this exact drawing. Make a copy of it, and put the copy in the museum. To reiterate: I definitely wasn’t drawing cranks.”
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Actually I believe Northwestern's renovation did what Butler's Hinkle Fieldhouse renovation did: re-oriented the court 90 degrees from what it used to be.
You would be wrong. Welsh-Ryan Arena was always that way. Pre-renovation pic below as proof:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Welsh-Ryan_Arena.png)
Building hoops arenas in that orientation was also a thing. Here is Oregon State's Gill Coliseum:
(https://www.sportspac12.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Gill-Coliseum.jpg)
Same as the 40's when it was new:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b7/16/fd/b716fd46446e56a9c8e4bee83eb5a608.jpg)
No doubt, but it certainly wasn't the norm. It does exist, though. Alabama's Coleman Coliseum is the same way. Also I've been to a game at McGill and it definitely scratched an itch for a game in an old timey arena. :thumbs:
Western Michigan's Read Arena now has the court oriented perpendicular to the rafters. They also pulled a Butler. Or maybe Butler pulled a Western Michigan? Not sure who did it first.
Here's old Read Arena, which clearly looks exactly like Ahearn as far as proportions, court alignment, permanent upper deck but with temporary bleachers at the bottom. Then when they updated it they flipped the court 90 degrees.
(https://www.mlive.com/resizer/J536K7BIMkCdNdIlNpg3qL0wyio=/1280x0/smart/advancelocal-adapter-image-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width2048/img/broncos_impact/photo/13764053-large.jpg)
(https://wmubroncos.com/images/2016/8/4/Read_Fieldhouse.jpg)
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SkinBen getting schooled in the ways of the arena. Lots to learn grasshopper, apparently.
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Correct, I was wrong on Northwestern's arena. But surely anyone would admit that 90%+ of the fieldhousey arenas in those days were built with the rafters running the way Ahearn's do.
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Guess which way the court sits in this pretty much new fieldhouse???
(https://media.gettyimages.com/videos/view-of-bankers-life-fieldhouse-with-cityscape-indianapolis-marion-video-id626579217?s=640x640)
P.S. I think a roof like this would be awesome for Bramlage.
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Take it to the facilities fantasies threads you dorks.
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Guess which way the court sits in this pretty much new fieldhouse???
(https://media.gettyimages.com/videos/view-of-bankers-life-fieldhouse-with-cityscape-indianapolis-marion-video-id626579217?s=640x640)
P.S. I think a roof like this would be awesome for Bramlage.
Nice...plus it has a clerestory! :love:
Here is Mizzou Arena (or mini-Banker's Life I'd imagine they call it)
(https://aviewfrommyseat.com/wallpaper/jaredbusch62-20180307224102.jpg)
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How much of Texas's new arena is actually being paid for by the school or AD tho? I thought the city was chipping in a bunch, as it will also be used as a public event venue.
I believe originally a developer/property group/investment group (honestly not sure how to describe it) was paying for it/building it and would get all profits for a certain amount of time, then there would be profit sharing with UT after.
But then, the Moody Foundation donated like half the cost to UT to chip in for the Arena and I believe a new basketball practice facility... so I'm not really sure how any of it works now.
I do know it's everything I would want in a facility at K-State (we probably wouldn't even need the upper deck option to expand seating for events.)
(https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/4251e72/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1200x675+0+0/resize/880x495!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Flegacy%2Fsites%2Fkut%2Ffiles%2F201911%2FRendering_Approved_04_0.jpg)
The upper deck thing is fascinating to me. Is it actually "expandable" or will they be tarping that sucker?
I just saw an interview, and they said it’ll use “revolutionary technology” to adjust it.
So it better be pretty cool.
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Is KU Basketball still hurting? This thread is confusing.
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Is KU Basketball still hurting? This thread is confusing.
I think they are fine now. These facilities dorks wouldn't be doing this otherwise. Very TSC of them tho.
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Is KU Basketball still hurting? This thread is confusing.
Well it's looking like the NCAA penalties won't come before next season either, so they're fine I guess.
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1395352912981856261?s=20
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goddamn, is every player on their roster a transfer?
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KU is going to be pretty damn good this year.
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Uh, that's a dice roll. Putting together that many spare parts has never proven to be successful. Their three most high profile transfers are two undersized ball dominant guards and another guard on his fourth school in 5.5 years. How will these dudes mesh with Agbagi, with each other? Very high risk/high reward
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I will bet on Bill Self. That rough rider seems to figure out a way to make it work.
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I will bet on Bill Self. That rough rider seems to figure out a way to make it work.
Yes, by always having the best players.
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I will bet on Bill Self. That rough rider seems to figure out a way to make it work.
Yes, by always having the best players.
Yes
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The Kansas City media talking point that Bill self is always shaping some sort of bad news bears situation into a contender is mind blowing
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1417586055658852362?s=20
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Interesting
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Idk why this is funny but it just is
https://twitter.com/KUHoops/status/1428491440842285059?s=19
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He looks like he’s 55
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Well, he looked like he was 45 when he was playing.
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Being a hardcore booze addict really ages you
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Being a hardcore booze addict really ages you
Nah. That’s drugs!
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point plank’n
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point plank’n
such a more fun time
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If I didn’t know any better I’d say he has a little Street in him
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If I didn’t know any better I’d say he has a little Street in him
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This one never gets old for me.
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A classic.
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I watched like 10 times and lol each time
https://twitter.com/edzitron/status/1453893078847160325
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Haven't seen it posted here, but thought you guys might get a kick out of our stud transfer's NIL car deal. He was given a .... Camry. With a sled like that, just think of all the labia he's going to slay.
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I watched like 10 times and lol each time
Same
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Haven't seen it posted here, but thought you guys might get a kick out of our stud transfer's NIL car deal. He was given a .... Camry. With a sled like that, just think of all the labia he's going to slay.
Is it a Hybrid?
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Haven't seen it posted here, but thought you guys might get a kick out of our stud transfer's NIL car deal. He was given a .... Camry. With a sled like that, just think of all the labia he's going to slay.
Is it a Hybrid?
If it is, there's no mention of that fact. I don't believe so. And don't get me wrong, it's actually a very fine car (to an older, more circumspect, and responsible individual such as myself). But Kentucky out here givin' away Porsches ...
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2021/oct/28/ku-guard-remy-martin-receives-new-car-part-nil-dea/
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I see your point. IMHO, it's high time Doug Compton ended this state's Lamborghini dealership drought.
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http://m.kusports.com/news/2021/oct/31/kansas-basketball-forward-jalen-wilson-arrested-su/?templates=mobile (http://m.kusports.com/news/2021/oct/31/kansas-basketball-forward-jalen-wilson-arrested-su/?templates=mobile)
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http://m.kusports.com/news/2021/oct/31/kansas-basketball-forward-jalen-wilson-arrested-su/?templates=mobile (http://m.kusports.com/news/2021/oct/31/kansas-basketball-forward-jalen-wilson-arrested-su/?templates=mobile)
Christ, if he'd had a 2022 Toyota with lane-keep-assist we wouldn't be talking about this today.
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http://m.kusports.com/news/2021/oct/31/kansas-basketball-forward-jalen-wilson-arrested-su/?templates=mobile (http://m.kusports.com/news/2021/oct/31/kansas-basketball-forward-jalen-wilson-arrested-su/?templates=mobile)
Christ, if he'd had a 2022 Toyota with lane-keep-assist we wouldn't be talking about this today.
GREAT point by Pete here.
But isn't this just a first step to him being sponsored by canadian mist?
"my name is Jalen 'whiskey breath' Wilson and when i need a good plastering after scrimmage I only drink Candian Mist"
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They need NIL deals with Uber
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Not looking good for KU…Oklahoma State just got hit with a post season ban for their role in the Adidas FBI stuff. They only had OSU specifically nailed on a $300 benefit to an existing player (not recruit), but lots of clearly fishy stuff. Anyway, OSU is super pissed of course, but the appeal basically said “tough crap.” This does not bode well for our TSC brothers.
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Not looking good for KU…Oklahoma State just got hit with a post season ban for their role in the Adidas FBI stuff. They only had OSU specifically nailed on a $300 benefit to an existing player (not recruit), but lots of clearly fishy stuff. Anyway, OSU is super pissed of course, but the appeal basically said “tough crap.” This does not bode well for our TSC brothers.
The Big 10 will step in and save them. They should be fine.
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Not looking good for KU…Oklahoma State just got hit with a post season ban for their role in the Adidas FBI stuff. They only had OSU specifically nailed on a $300 benefit to an existing player (not recruit), but lots of clearly fishy stuff. Anyway, OSU is super pissed of course, but the appeal basically said “tough crap.” This does not bode well for our TSC brothers.
We good.
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would be just a matter of time but the ncaa is as corrupt as they come
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I believe the independent groups rulings are not appealable.
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Not looking good for KU…Oklahoma State just got hit with a post season ban for their role in the Adidas FBI stuff. They only had OSU specifically nailed on a $300 benefit to an existing player (not recruit), but lots of clearly fishy stuff. Anyway, OSU is super pissed of course, but the appeal basically said “tough crap.” This does not bode well for our TSC brothers.
Okie Lite just took KU’s suspension for them
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https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article256574226.html
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We may have some SLTH Surveillance of this guy
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Haven't seen it posted here, but thought you guys might get a kick out of our stud transfer's NIL car deal. He was given a .... Camry. With a sled like that, just think of all the labia he's going to slay.
u checked car prices lately?
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Haven't seen it posted here, but thought you guys might get a kick out of our stud transfer's NIL car deal. He was given a .... Camry. With a sled like that, just think of all the labia he's going to slay.
u checked car prices lately?
Pretty sure I posted this when I was a toddler, deep digging dal
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Haven't seen it posted here, but thought you guys might get a kick out of our stud transfer's NIL car deal. He was given a .... Camry. With a sled like that, just think of all the labia he's going to slay.
u checked car prices lately?
Pretty sure I posted this when I was a toddler, deep digging dal
did u fall off ur dinosaur when u were a toddler also
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Haven't seen it posted here, but thought you guys might get a kick out of our stud transfer's NIL car deal. He was given a .... Camry. With a sled like that, just think of all the labia he's going to slay.
u checked car prices lately?
Pretty sure I posted this when I was a toddler, deep digging dal
did u fall off ur dinosaur when u were a toddler also
Uh. Ye ... Yes???
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Haven't seen it posted here, but thought you guys might get a kick out of our stud transfer's NIL car deal. He was given a .... Camry. With a sled like that, just think of all the labia he's going to slay.
u checked car prices lately?
Pretty sure I posted this when I was a toddler, deep digging dal
did u fall off ur dinosaur when u were a toddler also
Uh. Ye ... Yes???
Damn Spracs, need some aloe for that burn?
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https://twitter.com/gottliebshow/status/1487815850341986309?s=21
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Dang, I know they are poor af but that's unacceptable. Can the big 12 kick them out for negligence?
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Do we have another Williams Fund situation happening here? Can’t even do preventive maintenance on the arena? I knew it was bad, but this is beyond the pale.
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We also still have the old ladies' 3-pt line on our court, even though the NCAA made the men's and women's 3-pt lines the same last summer.
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https://twitter.com/gottliebshow/status/1487815850341986309?s=21
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Ol dude keeps right on banging on that scoreboard like nothing happened
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They really need to put some money into that pisshole.
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No Big 12 refs and a long, lean, athletic Kentucky team.
Goodness
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https://twitter.com/gottliebshow/status/1487815850341986309?s=21
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Ol dude keeps right on banging on that scoreboard like nothing happened
ngl that one player is lucky, no warning and have that swing out as you run underneath it. Lucky he wasn't concussed or cut up (I'm assuming he wasn't)
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https://twitter.com/gottliebshow/status/1487815850341986309?s=21
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Ol dude keeps right on banging on that scoreboard like nothing happened
ngl that one player is lucky, no warning and have that swing out as you run underneath it. Lucky he wasn't concussed or cut up (I'm assuming he wasn't)
He played in the game
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:Lurk: (ftp://:Lurk:) rumblings.
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About?
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Is that you, Mike Vernon?
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Is that you, Mike Vernon?
lol, trying to shore up some of these sources.. 2 year hammer? Self sits out this year?.. :driving: (ftp://:driving:)
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NCAA penalties usually don't leak, they're not going to tell the school then just leave it hanging out there, especially if a hall of fame coach is getting a one year show cause. Considering that show cause would also lead to his top assistant being fired.
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NCAA penalties usually don't leak, they're not going to tell the school then just leave it hanging out there, especially if a hall of fame coach is getting a one year show cause. Considering that show cause would also lead to his top assistant being fired.
Where are we at with the sanctions? My buddy from the gym has been insisting that the NCAA is going to lower the boom any day for two years now but I think their brand is too big for the NCAA to hold accountable, esp after they win the One Shining Moment on Monday night.
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According to Emmert (sp?)the independent committee is re-investigating the whole thing.
Just feel bad for the victim, KU. Based on this season it looks like Bill and Kurt did indeed find some guys.
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the real victim is oscar’s family
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/kansas-holds-bill-self-kurtis-townsend-off-road-for-july-live-recruiting-period-as-ncaa-case-drags-on/
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From CBS:
"Coaches will not be able to visit recruits in person again until mid-September. Whether Self and/or Townsend will be allowed to resume full recruiting activities by then remains to be seen. As for how much damage control this move will help in Kansas' bid to avoid significant punishment from the IARP, industry sources believe a significant suspension for Self and a potential postseason ban for the Jayhawks are penalties that remain on the table."
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1587816935231725568
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Independent committee getting ready to murder them. Probably be down at least a scholly for next year.
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Does he still get his pick of coed after each game or is he suspended from that too?
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Just hate to see this victimization get to such a personal level. KU basketball is victimized by an evil mega-corp, by proximity Kurt and Bill were victimized by said evil mega-corp, and now Kurt and Bill are taking even more from The Man.
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The ten-plyiest of wrist slaps
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if I am a ku fan I still claim last year's natty even though it was illegitimate
and Congrats Roy!
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The infractions case has dragged on so long that none of the players were even involved in the case.
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The infractions case has dragged on so long that none of the players were even involved in the case.
Yeah, it sucks for the current players that the school chose to do that to them.
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Is Self oing to not be on the bench for games, or is he not going to be act practice during this suspension?
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Is Self oing to not be on the bench for games, or is he not going to be act practice during this suspension?
Yeah, suspension for games doesn't seem like a big deal if he can be at practice.
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He's an amazing bench coach, if it were for better games, it would matter.
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KU brought back former assistant Joe Dooley in the offseason (he's somewhat famous/meme-worthy). This feels very planned out, which I suppose is a good thing, all things considered.
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It's planned out for when Self gets his one year show cause. Dooley was a MID mid major coach, if that's the plan, good luck.
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I see a multi year show cause.
None the less they still have a hobby sport Natty
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None of you can stop the good times from pouring down on me :gocho:
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This self imposed suspension is like spanking your serial killer son and saying "see... he's punished"
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Removing scholarships is pretty much nothing with NIL deals.
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it’s one less roster spot
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Can't you just disguise someone as a walk on and pay them to play? Knowing KU, they'll have a way around their own punishment.
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Also no one who is worth the annual 6 figures a scholarship is worth isn't going anywhere to take that in lieu of a scholarship. They want their scholarship, stipend, and nil money.
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Yeah, and it's not like KU is going to make their best player go without a scholarship and take NIL instead. The walk on kid is going to mostly ride the bench. Not a lot of NIL money for people who don't play much.
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Also no one who is worth the annual 6 figures a scholarship is worth isn't going anywhere to take that in lieu of a scholarship. They want their scholarship, stipend, and nil money.
How do you come up with a scholarship at KU or K-State being worth six figures annually?
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Also no one who is worth the annual 6 figures a scholarship is worth isn't going anywhere to take that in lieu of a scholarship. They want their scholarship, stipend, and nil money.
How do you come up with a scholarship at KU or K-State being worth six figures annually?
From the donor annual report that was released just this week.
Full cost of an in state basketball player is $101,154 out of state is $117,674. That's tuition, books, room and board, fees, and perks that only scholarshipped athletes get.
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Also no one who is worth the annual 6 figures a scholarship is worth isn't going anywhere to take that in lieu of a scholarship. They want their scholarship, stipend, and nil money.
How do you come up with a scholarship at KU or K-State being worth six figures annually?
From the donor annual report that was released just this week.
Full cost of an in state basketball player is $101,154 out of state is $117,674. That's tuition, books, room and board, fees, and perks that only scholarshipped athletes get.
Can you link said report?
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Those numbers seem very reasonable for a kid to go to school. I am planning to spend much more than that a year (PROVE ME WRONG MORON KIDS!)
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Also no one who is worth the annual 6 figures a scholarship is worth isn't going anywhere to take that in lieu of a scholarship. They want their scholarship, stipend, and nil money.
How do you come up with a scholarship at KU or K-State being worth six figures annually?
From the donor annual report that was released just this week.
Full cost of an in state basketball player is $101,154 out of state is $117,674. That's tuition, books, room and board, fees, and perks that only scholarshipped athletes get.
Can you link said report?
Nope, cause it's printed. How about a photo instead?
(https://i.ibb.co/f0XkyCS/PXL-20221105-141921850.jpg)
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I think the original question was "annually?" But, that pic does indicate the annual price as well. However, out of state vs instate tuition is not a real cost difference, it's entirely fabricated and based on revenue pricing decisions and not on costs. The in-state price is the closer to the real cost incurred by the University.
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i don’t think you can really look at it that way. total revenue target/total students. saying one is overpriced is the same as saying the other is underpriced. ultimately our undergrad enrollment percentage is low enough that it doesn’t matter, maybe that was your point that i missed. none of this is germane to the conversation tho, so i’ll go cats to purple.
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Also no one who is worth the annual 6 figures a scholarship is worth isn't going anywhere to take that in lieu of a scholarship. They want their scholarship, stipend, and nil money.
How do you come up with a scholarship at KU or K-State being worth six figures annually?
From the donor annual report that was released just this week.
Full cost of an in state basketball player is $101,154 out of state is $117,674. That's tuition, books, room and board, fees, and perks that only scholarshipped athletes get.
Can you link said report?
Nope, cause it's printed. How about a photo instead?
(https://i.ibb.co/f0XkyCS/PXL-20221105-141921850.jpg)
The value of the scholarship looks to be less than $50,000 for an in-state student and less than $66,000 for an out-of-state student.
I'm embarrassed that K-State put that out. That's a list of athletic department costs divided by the number of student athletes, not the benefit to the student athlete. That's hilarious that saying providing a uniform for the game is somehow a benefit for the student athlete. Attributing coaching costs to the student athletes is nuts. Moreover, how can the coaching costs for Marquis Nowell and Emilee Ebert be the same?
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It's called "overhead," which is a concept I learned at Harvard Business School while obtaining my doctorate in business administration. Still, pretty silly they just opened up their books like that.
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Just saw oscar getting a haircut. He looked very happy
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Also no one who is worth the annual 6 figures a scholarship is worth isn't going anywhere to take that in lieu of a scholarship. They want their scholarship, stipend, and nil money.
How do you come up with a scholarship at KU or K-State being worth six figures annually?
From the donor annual report that was released just this week.
Full cost of an in state basketball player is $101,154 out of state is $117,674. That's tuition, books, room and board, fees, and perks that only scholarshipped athletes get.
Can you link said report?
Nope, cause it's printed. How about a photo instead?
(https://i.ibb.co/f0XkyCS/PXL-20221105-141921850.jpg)
The value of the scholarship looks to be less than $50,000 for an in-state student and less than $66,000 for an out-of-state student.
I'm embarrassed that K-State put that out. That's a list of athletic department costs divided by the number of student athletes, not the benefit to the student athlete. That's hilarious that saying providing a uniform for the game is somehow a benefit for the student athlete. Attributing coaching costs to the student athletes is nuts. Moreover, how can the coaching costs for Marquis Nowell and Emilee Ebert be the same?
For the purpose of the spirit of my actual content a lot of those things need to be counted because walk-ons do not get a lot of those listed benefits. The NCAA regulates those additional benefits like tutoring, the training table, and aspects of the listed administrative support. This is done so schools, who can afford to do so, can have players walk on but provide them tens of thousands of dollars in benefits. That's the Nebraska rule when they would have like 50 walk-ons.
This was never a conversation about how much a scholarship is, we were discussing why a Kansas basketball recruit with offers wouldn't walk on there, or anywhere else. If all those things that come with a scholarship doesn't quite get to 6 figures, then you got me, I guess, but these schools are placing the value at 6 figures. Also worth noting that these dollar figures are almost certainly higher for Kansas basketball.
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I'm not trying to get you in a gotcha. I included the training table, tutoring, etc. in the value of the scholarship with my numbers.
This is the kind of stuff that athletic directors and athletic departments put out to try and make it seem like a scholarship gives so much value to student athletes. I think they do it to try to justify not paying student athletes outright and to try and convince fans/donors that they are already getting so much that they don't need anything more.
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what does room, board, tuition, all that extra stuff cost in you opinion justwin? I'm asking because I have no idea and am trying to plan for it 9 and 12 years. tia.
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I'm not trying to get you in a gotcha. I included the training table, tutoring, etc. in the value of the scholarship with my numbers.
This is the kind of stuff that athletic directors and athletic departments put out to try and make it seem like a scholarship gives so much value to student athletes. I think they do it to try to justify not paying student athletes outright and to try and convince fans/donors that they are already getting so much that they don't need anything more.
I don’t see the figure as misleading. They’re encouraging people to donate to KSU athletics. It makes sense to include department expenses in that breakdown.
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Everyone shut up about this. You keep bumping this thread and making me think KU basketball is hurting.
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what does room, board, tuition, all that extra stuff cost in you opinion justwin? I'm asking because I have no idea and am trying to plan for it 9 and 12 years. tia.
At K-State right now for a non-student athlete for tuition, fees, room, board, books, sports tickets, etc., I would plan on $25,000 for a year if you get in-state tuition. If you are paying out-of-state tuition, it would be $41,000. That is assuming no scholarships.
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Thats cheap AF. sd 529s gonna be flush.
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Thats cheap AF. sd 529s gonna be flush.
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Do you really intend to send your kids to K-State? I mean, I get that I went to KU for undergrad, but I grew up poor.
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Thats cheap AF. sd 529s gonna be flush.
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There are some programs where Nebraskans get in state tuition
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Grady Dick is really good.
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"Un, Chad gave me some pills ... "
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Grady Dick is really good.
1 rebound, no assists and defensive liability. Buy yeah.
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"Un, Chad gave me some pills ... "
Lol, I noted that as well.
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what does room, board, tuition, all that extra stuff cost in you opinion justwin? I'm asking because I have no idea and am trying to plan for it 9 and 12 years. tia.
I am paying around $30k a year.
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Yes, I know this is a joke/didn't happen, but you guys are going to hate Gradey Dick.
https://twitter.com/BarstoolKU/status/1592698271985991680?s=20&t=sXSNDocCBXUlVklESNTAWg
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Yes, I know this is a joke/didn't happen, but you guys are going to hate Gradey Dick.
https://twitter.com/BarstoolKU/status/1592698271985991680?s=20&t=sXSNDocCBXUlVklESNTAWg
He's what everyone thought Laettner was. Rich white kid with all the advantages (and real talent).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm1j5-WE23Q
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https://twitter.com/ScotPollard31/status/1598539269068439555?s=20&t=Pj2W7SBU1PVfG5NyxHvHpg
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Thank you, Scot. Such a stupid "thing".
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Thank you, Scot. Such a stupid "thing".
I wouldn't listen to anyone who spells Scott with only on "t".
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Thank you, Scot. Such a stupid "thing".
I wouldn't listen to anyone who spells Scott with only on "t".
Even if a person were a Scot?
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Thats cheap AF. sd 529s gonna be flush.
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Do you really intend to send your kids to K-State? I mean, I get that I went to KU for undergrad, but I grew up poor.
Most likely they go to Nebraska because they will get a good chunk of tuition comped but I’m planning for the worst should they make another choice. I don’t want to force them to do anything based on my ability to help them pay for it.
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Thank you, Scot. Such a stupid "thing".
I wouldn't listen to anyone who spells Scott with only on "t".
Even if a person were a Scot?
I wouldn't listen to Scot the Scot.
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I don't think there are any Scottish Mormons.
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white castle ass font
https://twitter.com/AintNoSeatsPod/status/1603836258874163212?s=20&t=ZfaihwfwicBOo7r_TGg3Ww
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white castle ass font
https://twitter.com/AintNoSeatsPod/status/1603836258874163212?s=20&t=ZfaihwfwicBOo7r_TGg3Ww
Great way to honor White Castle's Kansas heritage.
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white castle ass font
https://twitter.com/AintNoSeatsPod/status/1603836258874163212?s=20&t=ZfaihwfwicBOo7r_TGg3Ww
Someone Photoshop this
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
They are the absolute GOATs at ruining sports uniforms.
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they really packed it in today for their game against #14 indiana, pay heed, son
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Show the picture at tip off. Cowards!
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lots of seats
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Great pic of the ol' barn.
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why don’t ku fans support their team?
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lots of seats
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Great pic, indeed. You can almost smell the piss.
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Ain’t no seats
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The gall. Nay, the unmitigated temerity for you hicks to deign to make fun of our basketball attendance ...
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they really packed it in today for their game against #14 indiana, pay heed, son
Why are they playing in an old high school gym?
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they really packed it in today for their game against #14 indiana, pay heed, son
Why are they playing in an old high school gym?
We have luxury boxes, they have metal bars
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Apparently the student section was half empty, and Bill ain't optimistically seeing it has half full and is calling out the students. Can't blame them for wanting to blow Lawrencetucky for the holiday comforts of JoCo, to be honest.
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Apparently the student section was half empty, and Bill ain't optimistically seeing it has half full and is calling out the students. Can't blame them for wanting to blow Lawrencetucky for the holiday comforts of JoCo, to be honest.
It’s finals, isn’t it? Or is it Xmas break?
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Football school now
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they really packed it in today for their game against #14 indiana, pay heed, son
I’m in that picture with Mrs. 8mp, but sitting down and hard to see. Tough day for our Hoosiers.
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Grady Dick walked into the locker room and right by Jerome Tang. Who was what the heck is he doing in our locker room? Dick walked up to a sitting Tomlin and tapped him on the dhoulder and said: "Lace 'em tight; it's going to be a long day." Tomlin got off the bench, wrapped Dick in a choke hold, picked him up and threw him head first in a waste basket. "Just don't get your skinny white ass in my way to dunking on bitches," Tomlin said calmly.
Yes, I know this won't happen and is just a response to some weird sqwawk-nation wetdream, but I don't know who KU has to matchup with Tomlin on defense.
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Grady Dick walked into the locker room and right by Jerome Tang. Who was what the heck is he doing in our locker room? Dick walked up to a sitting Tomlin and tapped him on the dhoulder and said: "Lace 'em tight; it's going to be a long day." Tomlin got off the bench, wrapped Dick in a choke hold, picked him up and threw him head first in a waste basket. "Just don't get your skinny white ass in my way to dunking on bitches," Tomlin said calmly.
Yes, I know this won't happen and is just a response to some weird sqwawk-nation wetdream, but I don't know who KU has to matchup with Tomlin on defense.
Cake eater.
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Grady Dick walked into the locker room and right by Jerome Tang. Who was what the heck is he doing in our locker room? Dick walked up to a sitting Tomlin and tapped him on the dhoulder and said: "Lace 'em tight; it's going to be a long day." Tomlin got off the bench, wrapped Dick in a choke hold, picked him up and threw him head first in a waste basket. "Just don't get your skinny white ass in my way to dunking on bitches," Tomlin said calmly.
Yes, I know this won't happen and is just a response to some weird sqwawk-nation wetdream, but I don't know who KU has to matchup with Tomlin on defense.
Cake eater.
Dick is from Edina?
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Apparently the student section was half empty, and Bill ain't optimistically seeing it has half full and is calling out the students. Can't blame them for wanting to blow Lawrencetucky for the holiday comforts of JoCo, to be honest.
Olathe > Lawrence
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Goodness, how does the defending national champion have a 1,000 empty seats for a weekend home game against Indiana?
Did they shut down K-10 or did Sherwin Williams introduce a new shade of beige with the big release that afternoon?
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Grady Dick walked into the locker room and right by Jerome Tang. Who was what the heck is he doing in our locker room? Dick walked up to a sitting Tomlin and tapped him on the dhoulder and said: "Lace 'em tight; it's going to be a long day." Tomlin got off the bench, wrapped Dick in a choke hold, picked him up and threw him head first in a waste basket. "Just don't get your skinny white ass in my way to dunking on bitches," Tomlin said calmly.
Yes, I know this won't happen and is just a response to some weird sqwawk-nation wetdream, but I don't know who KU has to matchup with Tomlin on defense.
Cake eater.
Dick is from Edina?
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Goodness, how does the defending national champion have a 1,000 empty seats for a weekend home game against Indiana?
Did they shut down K-10 or did Sherwin Williams introduce a new shade of beige with the big release that afternoon?
Maybe Karl and Karla were just saving their disposable income to head down to beautiful memphis tn for the liberty bowl? With interest rates going up i'm sure the affordable "adjustable" rate on Karla's Jeep Wagoneer is a drag on their finances as well.
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Or maybe school was out, and Indiana is a fallen star in the firmament of college basketball.
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:facepalm:
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Or maybe school was out, and Indiana is a fallen star in the firmament of college basketball.
I do agree that the KU student body does not have anything of note in their memories about Indiana...too young for that. However, Indiana was a ranked team coming into the game.
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It was a pathetic showing.
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guys, we just beat radford by 8 points
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It was a pathetic showing.
Literally no one gives a crap about it. This is a you problem.
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Watching live sports in person doesnt have the same appeal it once did. Basically every team is going to have empties on a regular basis now.
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It was a pathetic showing.
Literally no one gives a crap about it. This is a you problem.
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Spracs, you are so easily trolled. My god, son. Make some new years resolutions this year.
This coming from the same fan base that starts threads on the phog, about empty seats at Bramlage for a Tuesday night game. But they don't care!
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Blaming Indiana for the empty seats was not something I thought Spracne would do, very interesting.
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https://twitter.com/frankmason0/status/1616889624860704768?s=61&t=l1gEEqWvs_xspP0EKjXS7A
yikes
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QUESTION: Has any college basketball program, besides KU, ever had 3 great coaches in a row? I cannot think of any.
What are the odds that KU has 4 great coaches in a row? Seems astronomically hard to do, doesn't it?
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QUESTION: Has any college basketball program, besides KU, ever had 3 great coaches in a row? I cannot think of any.
What are the odds that KU has 4 great coaches in a row? Seems astronomically hard to do, doesn't it?
Ohio State's run is incredible starting with Woody Hays - only Like Fickell's 1 season after Tressel was fired is under a 70% winning percentage and he took Cincy to the CFP.
The Steelers going Noll - Cowher - Tomlin is maybe more impressive as the NFL has been a more even playing field than college sports imo
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Like almost all tater fans, I am OBSESSED with KU. They live rent free our heads, which is OK because we are family and that's what family is supposed to do for each other when one is down on their luck.
When I look at their remaining schedule, I just do NOT see many wins. Yikes! It's certainly possible that they lose the their next 5 games, it's POSSIBLE that they could play quite well (for them) and lose all 5! At Baylor is always tough, Kentucky is on a bit of a hot streak (won @Tennessee!), Tang is a wildcard for them, and @ISU has ALWAYS been very tough for KU.
Jan 23, 2023 @Baylor
Jan 28, 2023 @Kentucky
Jan 31, 2023 Kansas St.
Feb 4, 2023 @ Iowa St.
Feb 6, 2023 Texas
Feb 11, 2023 @Oklahoma
Feb 14, 2023 @Okla. St.
Feb 18, 2023 Baylor
Feb 20, 2023 @TCU
Feb 25, 2023 West Virginia
Feb 28, 2023 Texas Tech
Mar 4, 2023 @Texas
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QUESTION: Has any college basketball program, besides KU, ever had 3 great coaches in a row? I cannot think of any.
What are the odds that KU has 4 great coaches in a row? Seems astronomically hard to do, doesn't it?
It's gotta be turg right?
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QUESTION: Has any college basketball program, besides KU, ever had 3 great coaches in a row? I cannot think of any.
What are the odds that KU has 4 great coaches in a row? Seems astronomically hard to do, doesn't it?
It's gotta be turg right?
Gardner, Winter, Fitzsimmons, Hartman, Kruger, Altman.
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Yeah, half those dudes were super average at best
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Barely even top 10 :frown:
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Baylor is favored tonight :frown:
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Baylor is favored tonight :frown:
Does Bill get to select which Baylor players he wants sent to the bench with foul trouble to break runs in Waco or have the Bears risen above that level?
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Has any coach ever been fired the year after they win the natty?
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I think one of those ku players will end up sustaining a concussion running full speed into screens bc their teammates aren’t calling out warnings
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Has any coach ever been fired the year after they win the natty?
Gene chizik maybe? Idk
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Maybe Self will retire or leave for the NBA before they chase him off
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Chiplap finally cut his hair.
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https://twitter.com/ericsteyer/status/1617712660690374660?s=46&t=rOUYjBNuHIDEjUmcQEonmg
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This KU team is charmin soft. They usually have at least one blue collar player willing to do the dirty work, this team has none.
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I think it was supposed to be mculler but he just sucks
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Has Baylor always done the “coaches all wear matching hot sex quarter zips” or did Tang start that and then Scott drew called him and was like “hey you and your coaches are absolute fire on the sidelines do you mind if we do that too?” And then bc tang is such a good person he let out a flattered laugh and said “of course old friend!”
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The Phog is having a pretty bad night guys. Damn refs!!!
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Like I 100% know we've been lucky in some close games, but it seems like the super close ones they have had at home point to a team that doesn't seem to have it. Agree w/ wetwillie that they don't have a real gritty player. They're getting outworked
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Cal is going to go in dry on them this weekend.
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When is the last time KU lost 3 conference games in a row?!? Will they fire self and hire beard?
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Kansas State is their measuring stick.
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I’m still pretty optimistic about this team. We lose by 1 in OT at KState due to foul trouble and tonight may have won had that one ridiculous stretch not happened.
If we won one of those two games, there would be a lot less panic.
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Why would any KU fan be panicking?
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KU's problem this year is simple. In fact, it really all comes down to one word: laurels.
KU got some last year and now they're passed out on them like some milk drunk babies in one of those fancy bassinet things that rocks you around.
If anyone can dig them out of this slump it's Bill, but it just might be the greatest coaching challenge of his career.
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When is the last time KU lost 3 conference games in a row?!? Will they fire self and hire beard?
I think on the broadcast they said it happened in ‘21, ‘19, ‘05 and I think that was it since Bill took over
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Haha, they actually know the names of the refs and which ones have it our for them. It's just so ironic.
A sampling:
Criminal- Doug Sirmons is a clown.
Of course dougie called that on the floor.
This game was over the second we took the lead and Doug sirmons high dived into the game and threw his incompetence with all of his weight at us. We seriously need to file a complaint against him. He can’t ref our games anymore. I am so sick of his *********.
Kansas 69, Baylor 60 , Refs 15
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They'll bounce back and finish pretty close to the top of the Big 12.
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Winner of big 12 will probably have 5 losses
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quick question related to neck length- is this dude’s neck too long?
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I think it tends to get longer when he's excited.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/how-john-calipari-turned-around-kentuckys-once-doomed-season-before-clash-vs-kansas-in-secbig-12-challenge/
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When is the last time KU lost 3 conference games in a row?!? Will they fire self and hire beard?
I think on the broadcast they said it happened in ‘21, ‘19, ‘05 and I think that was it since Bill took over
Happening more often, they’re really losing it :frown:
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Doug Sirmons is no friend of K-State.
The officiating in the Big 12 and across college basketball is garbage.
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When is the last time KU lost 3 conference games in a row?!? Will they fire self and hire beard?
I think on the broadcast they said it happened in ‘21, ‘19, ‘05 and I think that was it since Bill took over
Happening more often, they’re really losing it :frown:
Yes, the reigning national champions have really been losing it.
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When is the last time KU lost 3 conference games in a row?!? Will they fire self and hire beard?
I think on the broadcast they said it happened in ‘21, ‘19, ‘05 and I think that was it since Bill took over
Happening more often, they’re really losing it :frown:
Yes, the reigning national champions have really been losing it.
It's 2023 out here bud. Come join us in the here and now.
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https://twitter.com/BigGameBoomer/status/1617641270201192448
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Big game boomer trolls fan bases and dumbasses are more than willing to take the bait, seeming to prove him right. The replies are full of fans of those teams, equivocating.
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I can't believe he has over 70k followers.
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people absolutely love lists of stuff
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It’s funny bc > 99% of lists are completely made up, they’re clickbait
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It’s funny bc > 99% of lists are completely made up, they’re clickbait
that’s basically social media’s whole model
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Beat Kentucky to retain the real blue blood crown. They are back baby!
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I counted bill self out and that was a poor decision by me
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When is the last time KU lost 3 conference games in a row?!? Will they fire self and hire beard?
I think on the broadcast they said it happened in ‘21, ‘19, ‘05 and I think that was it since Bill took over
Happening more often, they’re really losing it :frown:
Yes, the reigning national champions have really been losing it.
:Take the Bait:
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I counted bill self out and that was a poor decision by me
Kentucky stinks. KU will finish 5th in the conference and will be in Denver as a 3 or 4 seed
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnu4XuhDxbh/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY= (https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnu4XuhDxbh/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=)
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I counted bill self out and that was a poor decision by me
KU is fine. It is the same story every year: "they lost 2 first team all-americans and 3 all-conference picks from last year's squad, this may be Bill Self's toughest coaching assignment yet, he will be rebuilding instead of reloading, blah, blah, blah." And they are always just fine.
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I counted bill self out and that was a poor decision by me
KU is fine. It is the same story every year: "they lost 2 first team all-americans and 3 all-conference picks from last year's squad, this may be Bill Self's toughest coaching assignment yet, he will be rebuilding instead of reloading, blah, blah, blah." And they are always just fine.
Whatever we pay him (a lot) is still not enough to match his value.
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Irregardless of his coaching abilities his facial inflammation is v concerning.
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Coaching that team to 50 points in there paint against Texas was a masterclass
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Folks
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'shopped.
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Family and K-STATE Sports are synonymous. Too bad our Jayhawk brethren don’t feel the same way about their teams.
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KUEO! :tsc:
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Hoax
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Bill looks like the pastor of a Mega Church in Macon, GA in that picture.
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Hox!
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Looks sharp sd, how many did you buy?
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Hox!
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Irregardless of his coaching abilities his facial inflammation is v concerning.
Mrs Deputy Dawg made the same observation. She also observed that his rug isn't congruent with his age.
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Irregardless of his coaching abilities his facial inflammation is v concerning.
Mrs Deputy Dawg made the same observation. She also observed that his rug isn't congruent with his age.
Bill takes regular niacin supps
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Irregardless of his coaching abilities his facial inflammation is v concerning.
Mrs Deputy Dawg made the same observation. She also observed that his rug isn't congruent with his age.
obviously bill has a fake top but I will 100% assure you I will have a fuller and darker head of hair than that at whatever age he is. it's the best genes I have. max full dark hair genes.
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I bet Bill had the very expensive transplant surgery, where they go follicle by follicle and it takes an entire day to do like one small bald spot area. The catch is that if you are still losing hair when you get it, then in a few years it might look like a hair spot surrounded by a bald spot, etc. If you are rich (e.g. power 5 basketball coach) you can easily pay to have it done again and again as you age.
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The weird duck tail thing that happens to the back when he's all sweaty and angry is what kills me.
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he just wants to look as good as he can for the ladies, can’t blame him
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He certainly would have the exact same hairline that David Koechner has without any work
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he just wants to look as good as he can for the ladies, can’t blame him
I envy him. He's the long dong of Douglas county.
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Does he still have a taste for real estate agents?*
*allegedly
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I bet Bill had the very expensive transplant surgery, where they go follicle by follicle and it takes an entire day to do like one small bald spot area. The catch is that if you are still losing hair when you get it, then in a few years it might look like a hair spot surrounded by a bald spot, etc. If you are rich (e.g. power 5 basketball coach) you can easily pay to have it done again and again as you age.
Pete knows waaaay too much about this :horrorsurprise:
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Damn. Even Huggs is calling out the Frauds in the Phog.
https://www.si.com/college/westvirginia/.amp/basketball/huggins-says-what-were-all-thinking-when-it-comes-to-kus-home-dominance
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Awww, poor huggy baby :Crybaby:
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Damn. Even Huggs is calling out the Frauds in the Phog.
https://www.si.com/college/westvirginia/.amp/basketball/huggins-says-what-were-all-thinking-when-it-comes-to-kus-home-dominance
It's been the ku formula for years. Be basically 9-0/8-1 at home, be like 5-4/4-5 on the road. Usually enough to win the conference, or at least tie.
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Those uniforms are hurting me. :sdeek:
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The boo birds are in full force today
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Self's face looks like it got stuck under a heat lamp a little too long
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LOL
https://twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1629607776505720840
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Who looks in worse health: Huggy or Self? Red-faced Bill looks like a candidate for a heart attack after wolfing down his next burrito.
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LOL
https://twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1629607776505720840
That 100% was said. It was hilarious. Not sure why it isn't grabbing more attention.
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Sounds pretty immature
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Sounds pretty immature
The dick jokes were fairly funny at first, they grow old quick, esp since he's a middling player IMO
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Yeah at some point they just fall limp
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They definitely don't stand up on their own anymore.
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LOL
https://twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1629607776505720840
That 100% was said. It was hilarious. Not sure why it isn't grabbing more attention.
Tired: the dumb message board phallic jokes re: Dick
Wired: an announcer actually making one on ESPN
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Holy crap, it's good to be king. That possession to put KU up 3 was shambolic with the number of obvious missed calls.
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Holy crap, it's good to be king. That possession to put KU up 3 was shambolic with the number of obvious missed calls.
Extremely lol
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The weird duck tail thing that happens to the back when he's all sweaty and angry is what kills me.
Duck tail in full bloom tonight. And yes, could have called 3 fouls before the Macullar lay in.
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Bill Self in 20 years at KU - 17 conference titles and 17 home losses. I've never considered myself much of an S&M guy but that's the kind of hurting I could get into. :horrorsurprise:
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Guys, KU was not fouling, they were just being more aggressive than Tech. Bumping and slamming dudes while being aggressive is not fouling.
It's like you guys don't know anything . . .
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Holy crap, it's good to be king. That possession to put KU up 3 was shambolic with the number of obvious missed calls.
McCuller absolutely trucked #23 going for that loose ball. Just put his shoulder square into his back.
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IMO, this is a perfect season to be a KU fan. The ups and downs, the drama, the not knowing, and then the trophy. This is exactly what I would love to see from us. Dominance is boring and draws in a bunch of idiots.
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Feels great, but now I'm afraid we won't care as much as Texas on Saturday and they clinch a share on their way out the door :frown:
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I expect that TCU will handle their business, and the only drama in Saturday's game will be the fight for 2nd.
kono
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Feels great, but now I'm afraid we won't care as much as Texas on Saturday and they clinch a share on their way out the door :frown:
You better don one of those crusader shirts SD posted Spracs and make sure that doesn't happen . . . :curse: :tsc:
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Save this
https://twitter.com/gifhawk2/status/1630776834773196800
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BILL SELF MOWS MY LAWN!
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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There must have been a realtor convention out of town
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that cop wants to arrest seff so badly but knows he’d be blackballed if he did, and he’s got a young baby at home who needs to eat, sad
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I'm not sure if he's gonna cry or not, but his day I miss the days when he covered up his cussing with laminated paper. He used to be so protective over that.
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Actual T's and P's to Self if the rumors of a stroke are true
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That shaved head guy needs a goatee to make that video all that it could be.
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Hope for a quick recovery and for him to be back on the sideline next weekend
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I fully expect Bill to be whipping ass in Des Moines this time next week
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yikes. speedy recovery Bill
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Actual T's and P's to Self if the rumors of a stroke are true
I feel like this might explain his face this year. Maybe he has been on blood thinners and it’s made his face look flush.
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Things have been a little tense between Karl and Karla lately. Things really started to get heated when Karl was doing their taxes and the refund was several hundred dollars less than Karl was expecting. It appears as though Karla did not take his advice and adjust her withholdings from her paycheck.
Anyway, when pig Aggie successfully inbounded the ball to end the game, Karl has one eye on the big screen (42”) and the other eye on Karla, and let’s just say she apparently did not express the requisite level of disappointment.
On the bright side, Karl is not going to have to explain to Karla that going to Vegas just wasn’t in budget, especially considering the aforementioned tax return debacle.
Dinner tonight was…quiet
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Ha. Just needs some Sutter Home white Zin on ice.
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I had to drive some kid home from my house and was listening to the postgame on the ku broadcast. They were very b hurt about the refs.
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Oof the Cold War is heating up. Karl just posted on Facebook marketplace seeking an arky basketball Jersey since Karla is apparently a rabid arky super fan and he just wants to be supportive. ($15 max)
Karla just finished her 3rd white zin and is pouring number 4 right up to the rim, and she kinda has that vibe like she’s about to let Karl know what’s on her mind
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Grady dick is absolutely NOT ready for the NBA
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Oof the Cold War is heating up. Karl just posted on Facebook marketplace seeking an arky basketball Jersey since Karla is apparently a rabid arky super fan and he just wants to be supportive. ($15 max)
Karla just finished her 3rd white zin and is pouring number 4 right up to the rim, and she kinda has that vibe like she’s about to let Karl know what’s on her mind
It's the kids, Karl Jr. and Kendra, who always suffer most when the Jayhawks get booted early in the tournament. They'll be walking on eggshells for weeks in a van attempt not to trigger Karl's wrath. Best to stay in their rooms playing video games with headphones on and remember to leave the red clothes in the closet. Karl Jr would like to follow the rest of the tournament because he secretly likes UCLA but he knows the Dance is now dead to the parentals. Newspapers will lie unread on the lawn until May and all TVs switched off before the 10 p.m. news.
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So ESPN has realized, today, a 30 for 30 on KU cheating and rough ridin' over Billy Preston.
As if the subject matter isn't enough to infuriate KU fans, the very first line of the first episode refers to Lawrence and Allen Field House as being "surrounded by corn and soybean fields." About two minutes later they say that Kansas City is about 40 miles away. It's a good listen
https://twitter.com/pinepaula/status/1648541533979783175
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God damnit ...
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Would watch
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God damnit ...
The gig is up, KU really is in Kansas. Bunch of Hayseeds
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It's all true
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Congrats to KU, they have been cheating their ass off for the last 40 years but have finally been elevated to a blue blood status. They made their dream come true, live it up hawk fans along with your UK/DUKE/UNC/UCLA/UCONN etc fans.
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The part with Townsend and Self in his office with Gassnola and the other dude hovering in the corner was great
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The most enjoyable part of all of this is the movement from they didn't do anything wrong to it's not illegal anymore.
Coach(es) orchestrated pay-to-play schemes were illegal then and they're still illegal now.
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The part with Townsend and Self in his office with Gassnola and the other dude hovering in the corner was great
Yes! How they convinced the FBI and racist ass Joon Kim that they were the victims is a scandal and should be investigated.
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The part with Townsend and Self in his office with Gassnola and the other dude hovering in the corner was great
Yes! How they convinced the FBI and racist ass Joon Kim that they were the victims is a scandal and should be investigated.
I think that was mostly he said/she said. TJ testified that Kansas didn't know what he was doing.
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The part with Townsend and Self in his office with Gassnola and the other dude hovering in the corner was great
Yes! How they convinced the FBI and racist ass Joon Kim that they were the victims is a scandal and should be investigated.
I think that was mostly he said/she said. TJ testified that Kansas didn't know what he was doing.
You think they completely made up that meeting in The Oread? Kansas didn't know what he was doing because Self was not present when he was making the deal with the Prestons but Bill Self absolutely introduced the Adidas officials to the Prestons.
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https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article274516326.html
Throughout the four-episode podcast series, Preston made other allegations regarding KU’s relationship with the former Adidas representatives. Self has not disputed having contact with those representatives, though he has maintained in previous interviews that such interactions are commonplace in college athletics and, in context, can be acceptable. “I can say that we all know shoe companies have influence on all levels of basketball. They work hard to develop brand loyalty with top high school prospects, and they have some influence with them, which is totally permissible under NCAA guidelines, just like a high school coach could, an AAU coach, a trusted adviser, and especially a parent,” Self said in 2018. Later, Self added: “You should be able to have relationships and talk to people you want to talk to obviously in the proper way.”
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The part with Townsend and Self in his office with Gassnola and the other dude hovering in the corner was great
Yes! How they convinced the FBI and racist ass Joon Kim that they were the victims is a scandal and should be investigated.
I think that was mostly he said/she said. TJ testified that Kansas didn't know what he was doing.
You think they completely made up that meeting in The Oread? Kansas didn't know what he was doing because Self was not present when he was making the deal with the Prestons but Bill Self absolutely introduced the Adidas officials to the Prestons.
I think they all knew exactly what they were doing.
And lied and said they didn’t (Tj lied under oath)
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They gave bill a heart attack, what more do you savages want to do to him.
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They gave bill a heart attack, what more do you savages want to do to him.
This
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They gave bill a heart attack, what more do you savages want to do to him.
:D
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From the phog thread about this podcast, posted without the slightest bit of irony.
I would think to anyone that doesn’t have a built in hate for KU is going to see that this is a bad look for Preston. Acting like a victim is truly astounding.
An amazing lack of Self awareness
Also I don't know if all KU fans are like this or this is just the case of an echo chamber, but in that phog thread they've all convinced themselves that Self didn't do anything wrong because Gassnola testified that Self didn't know about the payments to Preston's mother. Introduce a bag man to a player, let the bag man do his thing. Of course the bag man knows to keep the head coach out of the loop, it's like these people never heard of plausible deniability.
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Things are so bad at KU that Matt Tait is leaving the LJW for "other opportunities." Rats, sinkingg ship.
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Things are so bad at KU that Matt Tait is leaving the LJW for "other opportunities." Rats, sinkingg ship.
Isn't he going to work for Mass Street Strategies, the KU NIL org? Presumably to promote KU athletes and try to get them paid.
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Things are so bad at KU that Matt Tait is leaving the LJW for "other opportunities." Rats, sinkingg ship.
Isn't he going to work for Mass Street Strategies, the KU NIL org? Presumably to promote KU athletes and try to get them paid.
if that’s true, and i have zero reason to question your sources, that is huge for the hawks
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Perfect job for the perfect KU Pom Pom waver
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As if the subject matter isn't enough to infuriate KU fans, the very first line of the first episode refers to Lawrence and Allen Field House as being "surrounded by corn and soybean fields." About two minutes later they say that Kansas City is about 40 miles away. It's a good listen
I’m about halfway thru the first ep and I really just hope there’s a spin-off with more about how desolate hick it is. I also liked how the errand they had to run at the big city mall an hour and a half away was to buy nikes.
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Imagine a life where you have to drive down the Interstate for an hour and into another state in order to catch a flight on a commercial airline.
I've seen KU athletes being picked up at the airport and they didn't look too pleased that it was going to be a solid hour of corn fields, silos, and grain bins before they got to Lawrentucky
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They lost out on a transfer from Stanford. Picked UNC.
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They lost out on a transfer from Stanford. Picked UNC.
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Apparently all in on Tyson (allegedly)
https://twitter.com/M_Vernon/status/1649830826933362688?s=20
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They've never lost a recruit, in the history of recruiting. They always value someone else and/or back off late in the recruiting process.
So blessed.
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(Moving this from the Dickinson thread)
After the Hunter Dickinson announcement I heard some pundit speculation as to whether KU are the "villains of college basketball" for the 23-34 season. Not really malicious, just a potential storyline for the season. So I decided to mess around with some AI art and created a "dark" version of our mascot, just for fun. Much to my surprise, it was pretty well received and posters here starting talking about wanting it on tee shirts and hats. I've just started to teach myself Adobe Creative Suite, so this seemed like a goof project to start learning on. I separated the image off the background and threw in some type I thought fit. Yesterday I played around with throwing the graphic onto shirts. All I really need to do is connect them to Shopify and they'd be really to sell. (I picked fitted tees because who likes a baggy shirt?) But there's the question of whether I'm legally allowed to do so.
I don't think you can trademark a red and blue birds as woodpeckers are red and blue. And the image I generated (which I do own and can sell according to the terms of service of the site I subscribe to) looks nothing like the KU logo. But by adding the words "Pay Heed", that's a connection to the university. It's what makes it work. But it is a legally allowable connection? I don't know.
At the end of the day, I’m just having fun. If it’s not legal for me to sell it I’m not going to sell it.
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This person is not good at things. That jayhawk has scabies. You just photoshop a jayhawk with dark brandon eyes then sell it until they make you stop. It's not complicated.
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Looks like a rooster who is on the short end of things on a Saturday night in Vinegar Bend, AL
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This logo is for all their hick fans that have Calvin pissing stickers on their beat to crap dodge rams. This will be wildly popular with that crowd.
It's missing: "It's a Jayhawk think. You wouldn't understand".
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https://twitter.com/R8derRabbit/status/1553572868386070529?s=20
This is apparently making the rounds about one of KU’s new transfers
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he should fit right in
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I don't think it went away at all. He's scheduled for a bench trial in June, although there may be a plea deal before then. Obviously a calculated gamble on Self's part.
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https://twitter.com/Joe40100474Joe/status/1653939585301504000
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that dude is scary af
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I don't think it went away at all. He's scheduled for a bench trial in June, although there may be a plea deal before then. Obviously a calculated gamble on Self's part.
what’s the gamble, that this is all make believe or that the program can minimize the incident?
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I don't think it went away at all. He's scheduled for a bench trial in June, although there may be a plea deal before then. Obviously a calculated gamble on Self's part.
what’s the gamble, that this is all make believe or that the program can minimize the incident?
That's for the factfinder to sort out, in this case a judge. At the very least, a 17 year-old exercised poor judgment if the texts and images are genuine. At worst, he's a POS and doesn't deserve a second chance at KU. He at least deserves to present his case, as we've only seen his ex girlfriend's recitation of events.
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if the texts and images are genuine, your categorization of the very least is extremely generous.
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if the texts and images are genuine, your categorization of the very least is extremely generous.
Who among us has not sent vaguely threatening snaps to our baes with guns pointed at the camera at that age?
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KU lost another one of its 2023 high school recruits - that's two of their top three incoming high school kids who have asked out in the last few weeks. I haven't paid close attention - is this because of KU bringing in so many transfers?
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KU lost another one of its 2023 high school recruits - that's two of their top three incoming high school kids who have asked out in the last few weeks. I haven't paid close attention - is this because of KU bringing in so many transfers?
I took it as that as well as McCullar returning which was unexpected
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4 stars. You guys can have him.
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4 stars. You guys can have him.
FP, TC, etc.
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4 stars. You guys can have him.
I feel this way about multiple sports now.
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so is the abuser any good?
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so is the abuser any good?
Yeah.
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https://twitter.com/sam_vecenie/status/1702883743315456238
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Lord, it's a damn shame.
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there's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, 'Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again.
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Another incident at the b-ball dorm, who could have possibly seen this coming . . . smdh
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Maybe she is a hooker. Didn't get her money and now alleges rape. You don't know. Like I said. She may have a terrible reputation. Did she go to the hospital following the incident? Did she refuse medical treatment. How did she report the information? Is she a student? There are some very young sex workers on the prowl in today's society.
We've seen this type of situation happen before in college sports. And the player turns out to be innocent.
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Maybe she is a hooker. Didn't get her money and now alleges rape. You don't know. Like I said. She may have a terrible reputation. Did she go to the hospital following the incident? Did she refuse medical treatment. How did she report the information? Is she a student? There are some very young sex workers on the prowl in today's society.
We've seen this type of situation happen before in college sports. And the player turns out to be innocent.
I read the thread. You have to dig pretty hard to find trash like this, but yes, there are a couple bozos being misogynistic. That's not the general vibe, though.
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Ol Dolla Bill doing Dolla Bill things . . . word is, unlike other dorms on the KU campus, no security cameras in McCarthy House of Misogyny
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Maybe she is a hooker. Didn't get her money and now alleges rape. You don't know. Like I said. She may have a terrible reputation. Did she go to the hospital following the incident? Did she refuse medical treatment. How did she report the information? Is she a student? There are some very young sex workers on the prowl in today's society.
We've seen this type of situation happen before in college sports. And the player turns out to be innocent.
This poster should be on a federal watch list
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Maybe she is a hooker. Didn't get her money and now alleges rape. You don't know. Like I said. She may have a terrible reputation. Did she go to the hospital following the incident? Did she refuse medical treatment. How did she report the information? Is she a student? There are some very young sex workers on the prowl in today's society.
We've seen this type of situation happen before in college sports. And the player turns out to be innocent.
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Between this and Bills new house.... WOOF
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Between this and Bills new house.... WOOF
yeah, tough times
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Between this and Bills new house.... WOOF
yeah, tough times
Just another day in the Hawk swamp.
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The dumpster fire who is the current Douglas County DA (just Google) failed yesterday to get a conviction in a dorm rape case. She would run screaming from a case involving a KU basketball player.
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The dumpster fire who is the current Douglas County DA (just Google) failed yesterday to get a conviction in a dorm rape case. She would run screaming from a case involving a KU basketball player.
Good lord - the dude from that case is the same guy mentioned here:
https://apnews.com/a82803ae445a4907b1260b00455d9b3b
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What is it about Lawrence that makes the young men there sexual predators?
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The dumpster fire who is the current Douglas County DA (just Google) failed yesterday to get a conviction in a dorm rape case. She would run screaming from a case involving a KU basketball player.
Good lord - the dude from that case is the same guy mentioned here:
https://apnews.com/a82803ae445a4907b1260b00455d9b3b
I'm confused. Is he a KU student or no? This article says that he is/was a student at a private Christian school.
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The dumpster fire who is the current Douglas County DA (just Google) failed yesterday to get a conviction in a dorm rape case. She would run screaming from a case involving a KU basketball player.
Good lord - the dude from that case is the same guy mentioned here:
https://apnews.com/a82803ae445a4907b1260b00455d9b3b
I'm confused. Is he a KU student or no? This article says that he is/was a student at a private Christian school.
That article is 7 years old, so the guy was probably in the Christian school (assume it's a high school?) when he pulled the shenanigans with the New Zealand woman, then he went to KU.
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Morris charged with rape and dismissed from team, according to LJWorld.
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Saw that, good grief
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Hide ya kids hide ya wives
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Feel awful for the victim, first. Pretty embarrassing for the program, too. Self and the coaches deserve plenty of blowback on this. Shouldn't have recruited him in the first place. But they rolled the dice, and this is where we're at.
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The most surprising part of this is the cover up didn't work
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Dolla Bill losing control of that DA office in Douglas County?
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A civil case should be made against Bill for bringing the rapist on campus.
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Elmarko
Spanish for
The marko
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Caste sports will love this roster
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Is it FUR-FEE or FUR-PHY?
I'd like it to be the former, but, either way, that's a helluva last name.
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Is it FUR-FEE or FUR-PHY?
I'd like it to be the former, but, either way, that's a helluva last name.
I think it's Furphy like Murphy.
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McCarthy being super secretive about his number. Think he's trying to be the first KU player to wear a number with a digit that's not 0-5 and it's taking a while to get approved?!?!
(I'm unreasonably excited about this rule change. RJ Jones wearing #8 confirms he's going to be an all time great)
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I legit have never heard of half those dudes.
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Hide the tiki torches
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it looks to me like a good old fashioned snocoat
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Stankovich has a kid playing at KU?!
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Stankovich has a kid playing at KU?!
Jank, yeah. Walk-on.
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I legit know 3 guys on that roster
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Hide the tiki torches
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Whitest ku team since?
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Say what you will about the roster as a whole, but that is a Grade A photo from Johnny Furphy.
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That's a KU team picture that KU Karl and the thousands of male Johnson County cardigan wearing KU basketball (only) fans can really get behind.
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You guys are a bunch of haters. They remind me a great deal of the Lithuanian Grateful Dead Olympic team.
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Hide the tiki torches
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Whitest ku team since?
I believe the 2001-2002 had a complete blizzard on senior night, and then ran Heinrich and Collison out there along side Boschee. When Gooden had foul trouble you might even see Jeff Carey.
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Caste sports will love this roster
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Not since the Duke teams of old has caste sports been so high on a championship caliber club.
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it looks to me like a good old fashioned snocoat
YES
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https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1711830796112187707?t=oDBTsw5rKkWU7S6kt8PVZA&s=19
Prepare thy wrists to be slapped vigorously.
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no way in hell that anything comes of this, right?
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greater likelihood of wacky posting on gE I'd believe
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no way in hell that anything comes of this, right?
Sentence to time served
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:comehere:
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no way in hell that anything comes of this, right?
This will be a giant, three whole beef patty nothingburger.
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oscar Weber schedules haircut for Thursday Oct. 12.
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oscar Weber schedules haircut for Thursday Oct. 12.
Lol. What's he doing, now? Anything?
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oscar Weber schedules haircut for Thursday Oct. 12.
Lol. What's he doing, now? Anything?
His twitter bio indicates that he is an analyst for the big 10 Network.
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oscar Weber schedules haircut for Thursday Oct. 12.
Lol. What's he doing, now? Anything?
2 custards at the same time
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Is vacating wins from 6 years ago even a penalty? Does anyone in the world care about that?
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Is vacating wins from 6 years ago even a penalty? Does anyone in the world care about that?
Speculation or has it started to leak?
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Just what our kansan brothers on the phog seem to think will happen
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:lol: at this taking so long
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The opportunity for the greatest bust in NCAA basketball history exists here today. And it's not one to be taken lightly.
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3 years probation for Level 2 violations (all Level 1's were downgraded, LOFL).
Oklahoma State got a postseason ban for a Level 1 violation.
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Nothing to see here
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Wait, they have to vacate the Final Four from that year and the wins what's his name played in.
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Wait, they have to vacate the Final Four from that year and the wins what's his name played in.
Kinda sucks, but Slick Billy skates. And I thought for sure that Kurtis Towsend would end up taking the fall.
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So, "we good."
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Vacating past wins is so LOL. Regardless of the school, sport, coach, etc.
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What a dumb rough ridin' process this whole thing is
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Take down the Banner Spracs!
And the consecutive tourney trophy banner
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UK now has more all time wins than KU
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UK now has more all time wins than KU
The only consolation to come out of this.
I knew Billy would get off scot-free for his crimes.
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Gosh, oscar Weber and John Currie seem like fools for over policing basketball recruiting if this is the only punishment one gets for this sort of thing.
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They still penalize people, look at OSU. They just don't hammer the blue bloods.
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Gosh, oscar Weber and John Currie seem like fools for over policing basketball recruiting if this is the only punishment one gets for this sort of thing.
No one should be more upset than Jamar, IMO.
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Meanwhile, Self landed a top 50 recruit on the same day they announced the punishment.
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Someone check on Cleveland State.
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You know…for as much as every poster not named wacky or stunted just crapped all over oscar Weber, the fact is he’s the only coach in a very long time - maybe ever - to have swept the Kansas jayhawks, which according to the record books is precisely what he did in the year of our Lord Two Thousand and Eighteen.
How many Brinks trucks would we have to park on his lawn before he would consider coming back?
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You know…for as much as every poster not named wacky or stunted just crapped all over oscar Weber, the fact is he’s the only coach in a very long time - maybe ever - to have swept the Kansas jayhawks, which according to the record books is precisely what he did in the year of our Lord Two Thousand and Eighteen.
How many Brinks trucks would we have to park on his lawn before he would consider coming back?
excellent post
not gE'ing here, do we get to add W's in the record book for these games or do they just fall off of the official season results?
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That’s a good point, I’m sure the opposing team doesn’t get to change the L to a W, probably just get to erase the L. So the more accurate thing to say — which still puts oscar in rarified air — is that he played ku 3 times that season and was undefeated.
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We swept them. grats oscar
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There have been 13 final fours vacated in NCAA history and current/former KU coaches are responsible for 30% of them: Calipari (x2), Brown, Self.
Brown also landed all three of the schools where he served as the head coach on probation - a pretty remarkable feat.
Maybe the goEMAW research team can figure out if another coach has matched Brown's trifecta...
As they say, if something's worth doing, it's worth doing well.
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There have been 13 final fours vacated in NCAA history and current/former KU coaches are responsible for 30% of them: Calipari (x2), Brown, Self.
Brown also landed all three of the schools where he served as the head coach on probation - a pretty remarkable feat.
Maybe the goEMAW research team can figure out if another coach has matched Brown's trifecta...
As they say, if something's worth doing, it's worth doing well.
Sampson had NCAA violations at OU then got the show cause at Indiana. So only 2 locations, but show cause is worse.
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What are the terms of their probation? Meaning what kind of violations would make them probation violators.
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What are the terms of their probation? Meaning what kind of violations would make them probation violators.
I think the only violation that can land you with consequences is not making enough money.
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What are the terms of their probation? Meaning what kind of violations would make them probation violators.
I think the only violation that can land you with consequences is not making enough money.
Correct
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They still penalize people, look at OSU. They just don't hammer the blue bloods.
Completely different processes and people handed out the punishments for KU and OSU. If OSU had the IARP they wouldn't have gotten the postseason ban either. LSU and NCSU aren't blue bloods and they didn't get bans either. Luckily the IARP is no longer a thing.
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If Bill Self was a real G he'd hire those black men who went to prison and lost their jobs for no reason at all.
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If Bill Self was a real G he'd hire those black men who went to prison and lost their jobs for no reason at all.
Hmm. I'm going to need you to explain your reasoning on this. And I come in peace.
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https://andscape.com/features/kansas-basketball-gets-out-of-jail-free-but-falsehoods-are-there-for-all-to-see/ (https://andscape.com/features/kansas-basketball-gets-out-of-jail-free-but-falsehoods-are-there-for-all-to-see/)
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So, yeah. Kansas is gonna Kansas.
Code is collateral damage, another disposable Black person whose job was to get Black players by any means necessary. He is living off savings now, unemployable in basketball, and justifiably bitter. He just filed a lawsuit against Adidas, which says he was doing what he was told by his boss at Adidas. Given that the feds argued that Code, Gatto and others defrauded the universities they worked with – only in the alternate universe of NCAA “justice” is Kansas the victim – I don’t believe that Code getting players paid was even a crime against federal or state laws.
“My career has been obliterated, my reputation has been obliterated,” Code told me. “I lost my freedom, I’m a convicted felon. All because I did what I was told to do.”
That’s what makes the University of Kansas continuing to deny the obvious, while awaiting its preseason No. 1 ranking, so morally bankrupt. In a way, the Kansas case was integrity’s last stand. Colleges no longer need to paper-bag cash or funnel money through AAU teams. Thanks to “name, image and likeness” rules, Adidas can pay Kansas star Hunter Dickinson in broad daylight, and Girod doesn’t have to tie himself into a pretzel explaining what happened. Kansas also was the last IARP case – the NCAA is disbanding that particular puppet show. What some of us will remember most from that era are the wiretap transcripts and ruined lives – like Code’s.
“I have the phone call with Kurt where he says he’ll pay for Zion Williamson,” Code said. “Kansas can say they don’t know all day long, but that’s not the truth.”
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If Bill Self was a real G he'd hire those black men who went to prison and lost their jobs for no reason at all.
Hmm. I'm going to need you to explain your reasoning on this. And I come in peace.
I'm pretty sure you know exactly what I'm saying. Lamont Evans and Book Richardson went to actual prison, other black assistant coaches have been blackballed from the sport. Meanwhile Bill Self, oscar Pearl, Brad Underwood, Rick Pitino, and Sean Miller are still making millions of dollars and faced little to no repressions for their roles in the system that sent men to prison and ended careers. These coaches should feel a strong sense of obligation to make sure that these former assistants are brought back in the game, but they haven't and it's really infuriating. Two Americas right there in our faces.
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If Bill Self was a real G he'd hire those black men who went to prison and lost their jobs for no reason at all.
Hmm. I'm going to need you to explain your reasoning on this. And I come in peace.
I'm pretty sure you know exactly what I'm saying. Lamont Evans and Book Richardson went to actual prison, other black assistant coaches have been blackballed from the sport. Meanwhile Bill Self, oscar Pearl, Brad Underwood, Rick Pitino, and Sean Miller are still making millions of dollars and faced little to no repressions for their roles in the system that sent men to prison and ended careers. These coaches should feel a strong sense of obligation to make sure that these former assistants are brought back in the game, but they haven't and it's really infuriating. Two Americas right there in our faces.
That’s how this type of enterprise works. Coach Prime isn’t going to take the fall for any of his coaches misdeeds, for example. The problem is under representation of black men in the role to be able to screw their underlings.
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Kurtis Townsend could kill a man on Mass St.
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Josh Jackson ... woof
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article276449251.html
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If Bill Self was a real G he'd hire those black men who went to prison and lost their jobs for no reason at all.
Hmm. I'm going to need you to explain your reasoning on this. And I come in peace.
I'm pretty sure you know exactly what I'm saying. Lamont Evans and Book Richardson went to actual prison, other black assistant coaches have been blackballed from the sport. Meanwhile Bill Self, oscar Pearl, Brad Underwood, Rick Pitino, and Sean Miller are still making millions of dollars and faced little to no repressions for their roles in the system that sent men to prison and ended careers. These coaches should feel a strong sense of obligation to make sure that these former assistants are brought back in the game, but they haven't and it's really infuriating. Two Americas right there in our faces.
https://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/1714462123252736213?s=46&t=qihx_M5rao00w7e29gt7Rw
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who is that??
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who is that??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Richardson
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If Bill Self was a real G he'd hire those black men who went to prison and lost their jobs for no reason at all.
Hmm. I'm going to need you to explain your reasoning on this. And I come in peace.
I'm pretty sure you know exactly what I'm saying. Lamont Evans and Book Richardson went to actual prison, other black assistant coaches have been blackballed from the sport. Meanwhile Bill Self, oscar Pearl, Brad Underwood, Rick Pitino, and Sean Miller are still making millions of dollars and faced little to no repressions for their roles in the system that sent men to prison and ended careers. These coaches should feel a strong sense of obligation to make sure that these former assistants are brought back in the game, but they haven't and it's really infuriating. Two Americas right there in our faces.
https://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/1714462123252736213?s=46&t=qihx_M5rao00w7e29gt7Rw
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That's cool. GIVE HIM A rough ridin' JOB!
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Would bet that he is/was going to be townsends replacement based on how IARP ruling turned out
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this is the first i'm seeing this, incredible
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this is the first i'm seeing this, incredible
I crap you not I went straight to the official roster to see if it was fake
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LOL, same
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That KU roster poster is really rough ridin' up my OCD.
Not all the same pose, which is great, I can handle that. But some are the same. Some are unique. Some are in game play and some are during photo shoots. Roughly half aren't even wearing KU jerseys.
What gives? Did they throw a competent social media person under the bus for some recruiting violation?
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what kind of last name is furphy
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what kind of last name is furphy
My next dog will be named Furphy.
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at least 4 of those guys are 30+ years old
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watching the ku - illinois scrimmage and ku is a big team
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watching the ku - illinois scrimmage and ku is a big team
Where is this available?
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Get a time machine and then turn to BTN about two hours ago chump
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Get a time machine and then turn to BTN about two hours ago chump
I engaged in some self-help and realized I had already recorded it via BTN thanks to Google's algos. Thanks, though, CHOMPS.
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Is it just me or does it look like Bill is just phoning it in so far this year? I am kinda worried.
Also, ‘grats to Bread.
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Jeez, this KU team really is super white. Like, surprisingly so.
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Is Hunter Dickinson the slowest player in college basketball. I think so.
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$13 million a year for a coach in the hobby sport?
By the way, that's nearly $1.5 million more than Nick Saban makes...
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football is profitable for the first time in like 20 years so you gotta spend that money somewhere
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$13 million a year for a coach in the hobby sport?
By the way, that's nearly $1.5 million more than Nick Saban makes...
Good for them.. I'm sure they'll belly up when Lance gets incredible offer somewhere else? Their coffers are deep!
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$13 million a year for a coach in the hobby sport?
By the way, that's nearly $1.5 million more than Nick Saban makes...
Good for them.. I'm sure they'll belly up when Lance gets incredible offer somewhere else? Their coffers are deep!
The Endowment
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Nobody pays that kind of money unless they're being held over a barrel for things that far supersede on field/on court success and retention concerns.
Grats Bill Self
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What's your theory dax?
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That Bill lead the charge to beat back the NCAA with threats to blow the whole thing up . . . and now KU has just off loaded the entirety of the cash payout portion of their Adidas contract into Bill's bank account.
Possibly money well spent, we'll see.
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How did no one mention that Steve Dave is calling the KU game right now on ESPN+?
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self looks pretty good. i thought he was gonna die last year.
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Modern medicine whips ass
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self looks pretty good. i thought he was gonna die last year.
He’s probably on ozempic.
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I think unclogging his arteries probably helped a little too
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self looks pretty good. i thought he was gonna die last year.
He’s probably on ozempic.
man, that crap's gonna change the world.
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Former basketball players doing this? Goddamn, down real bad
https://twitter.com/gorockchalk/status/1725549620137222594
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Marquette brings more pain to already wounded squawk souls. Bless them, KU fans couldn't help but heap scorn on Sharka even as his team exposed the squawks. Now we'll see if they can keep a top-10 rating against the Vols.
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Former basketball players doing this? Goddamn, down real bad
https://twitter.com/gorockchalk/status/1725549620137222594
LMAO, yikes
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Look at the thread and replies, dude is a clown.
Between Lightfoot and the bench warmer having a preemptive meltdown, Mike Lee calling people pussies, and Pollard lashing out at their own fans for next to nothing, maybe the Williams Fund needs to hire a social media consultant for their alumni.
https://twitter.com/ScotPollard31/status/1726401007779811546?t=xDv0zPfnoxmeiXoD2HcMWg&s=19
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pollard claiming multiple recruits told him they would commit to ku if it wasn't for the "home of the Chieeeeeeefffffffffsssssssss" was hilarious
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JOCO gonna JOCO
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https://twitter.com/samuelljackson/status/1727431124899778940?s=46&t=qihx_M5rao00w7e29gt7Rw
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Sam Jackson watches our games?!
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Nice get right game against UT. Will be interesting to see how El Marko Jackson progresses, seems like he's struggling currently.
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Sam Jackson watches our games?!
[redacted] I bet he watches all your motherfucking games!
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Sam Jackson watches our games?!
[redacted] I bet he watches all your motherfucking games!
I hope he motherfucking does!
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Sam Jackson watches our games?!
but you have heard of me jack sparrow meme
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Sam Jackson watches our games?!
[redacted] I bet he watches all your motherfucking games!
I hope he motherfucking does!
He just murdered one of your players tho
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Sam Jackson watches our games?!
[redacted] I bet he watches all your motherfucking games!
I hope he motherfucking does!
He just murdered one of your players tho
You mean raised his profile?
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https://twitter.com/kctv5/status/1727892324556947784
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https://twitter.com/samuelljackson/status/1727431124899778940?s=61&t=kHH-k8anwIfPUMhwWRaDiA
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Perusing social media only to find Sharka lives in a top-floor executive suite lease free in KU fans'heads.
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I saw that Ft. Scott community college graduate jason sudeikis was in the crowd last night at the old piss barn.
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I saw that Ft. Scott community college graduate jason sudeikis was in the crowd last night at the old piss barn.
Pretty much made an ass of himself. No wonder Olivia Wilde dumped his B-list ass. With those drumsticks, I thought he was the homeless guy who tries to cage coins on Mass downtown by beating the sidewalk with the drumsticks he always carries. He hangs out with a guitar playing guy with a terrible voice who plays 70 and 80s singer/songwriters endlessly. Drumstick guy just beats the hell out of the concrete with no rhythm or feel. I guess he also brings to mind that old hippy drummer who attended KU football games during Mangino's good years and hooked up briefly with some coed. What is it aboout seedy drummers and KU?
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I saw that Ft. Scott community college graduate jason sudeikis was in the crowd last night at the old piss barn.
Pretty much made an ass of himself. No wonder Olivia Wilde dumped his B-list ass. With those drumsticks, I thought he was the homeless guy who tries to cage coins on Mass downtown by beating the sidewalk with the drumsticks he always carries. He hangs out with a guitar playing guy with a terrible voice who plays 70 and 80s singer/songwriters endlessly. Drumstick guy just beats the hell out of the concrete with no rhythm or feel. I guess he also brings to mind that old hippy drummer who attended KU football games during Mangino's good years and hooked up briefly with some coed. What is it aboout seedy drummers and KU?
White Owl. Also, no need to be salty that our celebs are better than your celebs.
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Meh
Marginal talents
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I saw that Ft. Scott community college graduate jason sudeikis was in the crowd last night at the old piss barn.
Pretty much made an ass of himself. No wonder Olivia Wilde dumped his B-list ass. With those drumsticks, I thought he was the homeless guy who tries to cage coins on Mass downtown by beating the sidewalk with the drumsticks he always carries. He hangs out with a guitar playing guy with a terrible voice who plays 70 and 80s singer/songwriters endlessly. Drumstick guy just beats the hell out of the concrete with no rhythm or feel. I guess he also brings to mind that old hippy drummer who attended KU football games during Mangino's good years and hooked up briefly with some coed. What is it aboout seedy drummers and KU?
White Owl. Also, no need to be salty that our celebs are better than your celebs.
Claiming a B-lister T-shirt fan as your celeb is just sad.
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Didn't white owl get cancelled (before cancelling was a thing) for being a perv or something.
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Didn't white owl get cancelled (before cancelling was a thing) for being a perv or something.
Yeah. Pretty sure he was kicked off campus. He always seemed like a POS to me, and I didn't know anyone in my circle that liked his act.
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Need a Julia Lee where are the now 30 for 30
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Didn't white owl get cancelled (before cancelling was a thing) for being a perv or something.
he married a coed iirc
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Didn't white owl get cancelled (before cancelling was a thing) for being a perv or something.
he married a coed iirc
Engaged briefly. She broke things off and got a restraining order, which he violated.
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Didn't white owl get cancelled (before cancelling was a thing) for being a perv or something.
he married a coed iirc
Engaged briefly. She broke things off and got a restraining order, which he violated.
Cancel that 30 for 30. Sounds like she came to her senses.
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Didn't white owl get cancelled (before cancelling was a thing) for being a perv or something.
he married a coed iirc
Engaged briefly. She broke things off and got a restraining order, which he violated.
Cancel that 30 for 30. Sounds like she came to her senses.
I'd imagine her parents had something to do with that.
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damn, ku is getting their salads tossed
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damn, ku is getting their salads tossed
Can’t make a shot meanwhile Indiana has fans out there throwin blind dimes
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ku is the most overrated team oat
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wow what a comeback from behind, this team has guts
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Got ku -6 second half and rolled it
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Disappointing finish for Mrs. 8mp’s Hoosiers, but not a Helms title in sight
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Disappointing finish for Mrs. 8mp’s Hoosiers, but not a Helms title in sight
Does KU still hang banners for Helms titles? I guess the 1922 and 1923 banners are for Helms titles?
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Yes, they do
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is it worse to hang helms banners or banners with NIT anything on them?
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Maybe I'm partial here but the NIT is a real thing that actually happens on the court and at one time the NIT champion was considered the national champion.
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yeah, that's not the NIT i'm talking about.
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:confused:
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The NIT banners in Bramlage aren't celebrating any national titles.
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Yep. Old school NIT champs are legit banners to hang.
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The NIT banners in Bramlage aren't celebrating any national titles.
one of your new year's resolutions might be to try and be less nitpicky
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The NIT banners in Bramlage aren't celebrating any national titles.
one of your new year's resolutions might be to try and be less nitpicky
maybe my resolution was to be more self aware, like how it seems weird to make fun of helm's banners when we have banners for NIT appearances
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The nit isn't made up
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are we saying having an NIT appearances banner isn't embarassing, because i think that's what we are saying.
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Winning the NIT is not embarrassing good grief
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Helms nit banners would be embarrassing
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Winning the NIT is not embarrassing good grief
having a banner that displays the years you made the NIT is
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I'm hearing rumors that the KSU cats hang NIT participation banners in their field house. Can anyone confirm these reports?
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Confirmed!
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Here’s the skinny…bramlage colosseum was designed by very good structural engineers. Our rafters can support SEVERAL banners. AFH on the other hand…crumbling. They have a very necessary economy with banners they hang from the rafters.
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I’m old school, but if it were up to me we’d only hang banners for awards our student athletes win for community service and being of good moral character.
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Where is Jesus's banner? Does ksu value the nit over Jesus?
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Where is Jesus's banner? Does ksu value the nit over Jesus?
Fair question
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The NIT banners in Bramlage aren't celebrating any national titles.
one of your new year's resolutions might be to try and be less nitpicky
maybe my resolution was to be more self aware, like how it seems weird to make fun of helm's banners when we have banners for NIT appearances
It was just a silly pun man I do not care
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The NIT banners in Bramlage aren't celebrating any national titles.
It's the same tournament and I'm pretty sure that they're up there because we started hanging banners back when the NIT was more heralded.
Your point has some merit but we don't hang those but NIT banners because we don't have NCAA tournament success. KU not only hangs Helms banners but they claim them as legitimate championships, weirdly and unnecessarily desperate.
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It's good to be the king
https://fxtwitter.com/ShehanJeyarajah/status/1743744198375809076?s=20 (https://fxtwitter.com/ShehanJeyarajah/status/1743744198375809076?s=20)
:gocho:
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It’s insane how consistent they are.
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For ku this crap hurts them. All the home cooking makes them think they are actually good and then the go play in the tourny and more times then not they can't get the calls they're used to and it costs them.
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It's good to be the king
https://fxtwitter.com/ShehanJeyarajah/status/1743744198375809076?s=20 (https://fxtwitter.com/ShehanJeyarajah/status/1743744198375809076?s=20)
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If we weren’t blue bloods in FB and got so many calls that go our way, I’d be pissed. But as it is, kings recognize kings.
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The flip side of the rules of basketball that Naismith plagiarized from Lambert Will have a note in small print that reads: The officials shall pull some call out of their ass to ensure a Kansas win in the event of a close game in conference play.
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What are the refs supposed to do? Let Ernest Udeh Jr. exact his sweet revenge just because of the time and situation? I didn't hear the announcers pick up on this, but Udeh transferred from KU to TCU shortly after Hunter Dickinson announced he was transferring to KU (they play the same position). Udeh was waiting for his opportunity to elbow the usurper in the head, and he might have gotten away with it if the refs hadn't made the right call.
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Sometimes it's best just to remain silent, because that's just embarrassing either as justification or gE'ing.
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That's not a "natural basketball motion," except maybe at the David DePape School of Rebounding.
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That's not a "natural basketball motion," expect maybe at the David DePape School of Rebounding.
:lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)
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I'm just glad the ref stepped in before the rest of his dastardly plot could unfold. Think how many chicken wings he had planned for Bill had they won????
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Hunts consistently drops like a sack of potatoes for such a big dude
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Sometimes it's best just to remain silent, because that's just embarrassing either as justification or gE'ing.
Spracne definitely copied that from the phog so that his buddies at gE could have a laugh. You should be thanking him for the moment of levity.
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screaming to everyone that will listen that a call was clear and obvious is usually a solid indicator that the call was complete bullshit
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Not sure if the elbow or the blatant push in the back was more egregious.
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Hunter Dickinson will single handedly revive the topic of flopping.
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screaming to everyone that will listen that a call was clear and obvious is usually a solid indicator that the call was complete bullshit
Does that also work with a no-call? I'm just thinking about Svi Mahalek (sp?) when he had the gather step, a euro-step, the extra layup step, an adjustment step (in case you are jumping with the wrong leg), a pivot step and the blue-blood courtesy step to make the game winning layup against us that was apparently all legal.
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How long will it be until our Coach Tang is able to skillfully manipulate refs in the same manner as Self? I want him to be able to direct the refs like a skilled maestro but I don't want Tang to turn into a ragey, sweaty, red-faced psychopath like Self. Is it possible to do this by simply channeling the Power of Love?
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Never
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How long will it be until our Coach Tang is able to skillfully manipulate refs in the same manner as Self? I want him to be able to direct the refs like a skilled maestro but I don't want Tang to turn into a ragey, sweaty, red-faced psychopath like Self. Is it possible to do this by simply channeling the Power of Love?
Lightpole obviously modeling what works so well for Self.
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Nice people don't do well in influencing referees. I'd hate to see Tang become a not-nice person. Massa Seff's sweaty ragey behavior bought him a ticket to the cardiac ward at KU medical center.
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Nice people don't do well in influencing referees. I'd hate to see Tang become a not-nice person. Massa Seff's sweaty ragey behavior bought him a ticket to the cardiac ward at KU medical center.
he still doesn’t look right. i guess all those years of banging waitresses in the keg cooler at louise’s west while loaded up on booger sugar is catching up with him.
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Too bad the article on KU cheating isn't more specific:
https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2024/01/09/industry-source-to-brett-mcmurphy-kansas-basketball-cheats-more-than-anyone/
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Truly edifying stuff. The only factual assertion made is verifiably wrong.
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Too bad the article on KU cheating isn't more specific:
https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2024/01/09/industry-source-to-brett-mcmurphy-kansas-basketball-cheats-more-than-anyone/
I mean literally the only thing the "industry source" does is compare KU's modest sanctions with the modest sanctions of Michigan, both of whom won a national title recently. There's no specifics other than to point out the extremely obvious which is that cheating is easily worth the reward in modern college athletics.
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It's sad that ku has such a low opinion of themselves that they feel they can't compete without cheating :frown:
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KU cheats. If nobody is holding them accountable then I blame the system more than KU.
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Truly edifying stuff. The only factual assertion made is verifiably wrong.
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As K-State fans, we should be WAY past worrying/bitching about other programs “cheating.” We should be asking why WE aren’t doing everything legal within our power to win. If it doesn’t break local, state, or federal law, then we should be doing it if it helps us keep our fans entertained.
The purpose of power 4 sports is to entertain and generate revenue. Give us our god damn entertainment.
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Pete, I am going to be honest, I do not want the teams I follow to cheat. I'm one of those doe eyed idealist that believes in fair competition.
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Pete, I am going to be honest, I do not want the teams I follow to cheat. I'm one of those doe eyed idealist that believes in fair competition.
It’s your responsibility as a fan to develop the cognitive dissonance to have it both ways
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Pete, I am going to be honest, I do not want the teams I follow to cheat. I'm one of those doe eyed idealist that believes in fair competition.
It’s your responsibility as a fan to develop the cognitive dissonance to have it both ways
Hate the sin, but love the sinner. Religions were basically created to address this dilemma, and the answer is always “do what you want, but also believe this/perform this repentance and you are fine.”
Time for 7 to find religion!
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Pete, I am going to be honest, I do not want the teams I follow to cheat. I'm one of those doe eyed idealist that believes in fair competition.
Honestly idgaf if we cheat if the result is a national title and no future postseason bans.
The risk is if you get caught cheating and also aren’t very good. Then it’s just embarrassing.
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You people probably don't even report your full tipped income to the irs smdh
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Tipped income? :lol:
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You people probably don't even report your full tipped income to the irs smdh
This admonition would be more appropriate on the phog.
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You people probably don't even report your full tipped income to the irs smdh
This admonition would be more appropriate on the phog.
:ROFL:
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Lost to UCF. Damn.
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Road wins in the BigXII are going to come at a premium
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A straight-up embarrassment.
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We beat these scrubs by 25 :sdeek:
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Did they play all 11 like they did with us? :lol: :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol: :lol:)
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i don't think losing to ucf is embarrassing, it's just something i would choose not to do.
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So is UCF now a quad 1 win for us?
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i don't think losing to ucf is embarrassing, it's just something i would choose not to do.
It's embarrassing when you were up 16 and kicking their asses.
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i wouldn't know.
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We beat these scrubs by 25 :sdeek:
Are we, good!?
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Also, seriously, when has there been a week when #1, #2, and #3 have lost
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No. 5 too. Tennessee lost to Miss State.
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UCF crap all over Iowa State’s special day
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What in the world?
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So is UCF now a quad 1 win for us?
No. Not even close. They aren't even top 75 in the NET, we barely are.
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Is this UCF team better or worse than the 2012-13 TCU team a really good KU lost at several years ago?
Kind of similar situations situations, as that was also TCU’s first year in the Big 12, I believe. That TCU team would finish Big 12 play at 2-16. KU shared the conference with us at 14-4 in oscar’s first season.
That was an odd stretch of three-straight losses for KU, which they subsequently ended by blowing us out at the piss barn.
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Is this UCF team better or worse than the 2012-13 TCU team a really good KU lost at several years ago?
Kind of similar situations situations, as that was also TCU’s first year in the Big 12, I believe. That TCU team would finish Big 12 play at 2-16. KU shared the conference with us at 14-4 in oscar’s first season.
That was an odd stretch of three-straight losses for KU, which they subsequently ended by blowing us out at the piss barn.
Wasn't that the year they had to play in a hs gym while theirs was being renovated?
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Is this UCF team better or worse than the 2012-13 TCU team a really good KU lost at several years ago?
Kind of similar situations situations, as that was also TCU’s first year in the Big 12, I believe. That TCU team would finish Big 12 play at 2-16. KU shared the conference with us at 14-4 in oscar’s first season.
That was an odd stretch of three-straight losses for KU, which they subsequently ended by blowing us out at the piss barn.
Wasn't that the year they had to play in a hs gym while theirs was being renovated?
I seem to recall playing them while they were renovating, and the floor (not the court) was dirt.
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Also, seriously, when has there been a week when #1, #2, and #3 have lost
This is the first time in AP Poll history that four top-5 teams have lost to unranked opponents in a 2-day span.
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Is this UCF team better or worse than the 2012-13 TCU team a really good KU lost at several years ago?
Kind of similar situations situations, as that was also TCU’s first year in the Big 12, I believe. That TCU team would finish Big 12 play at 2-16. KU shared the conference with us at 14-4 in oscar’s first season.
That was an odd stretch of three-straight losses for KU, which they subsequently ended by blowing us out at the piss barn.
Wasn't that the year they had to play in a hs gym while theirs was being renovated?
that’s right.
https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article8251485.html
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Is this UCF team better or worse than the 2012-13 TCU team a really good KU lost at several years ago?
Kind of similar situations situations, as that was also TCU’s first year in the Big 12, I believe. That TCU team would finish Big 12 play at 2-16. KU shared the conference with us at 14-4 in oscar’s first season.
That was an odd stretch of three-straight losses for KU, which they subsequently ended by blowing us out at the piss barn.
That TCU team was waaayyyy worse. 215 kenpom ranking. UCF is currently 79.
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Goodness, lmao
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Ngl this made me lol
https://x.com/785SportsKSU/status/1748846806706864439?s=20
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that's perfect
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Yeah I don’t think anyone saw that coming but great that a tweeter memorialized it.
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KU's defense should get better but man, when braun and furphy are in the game WOOF
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The only thing better than Johnny Furphy is the fact that his dad is named Dick Furphy.
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The only thing better than Johnny Furphy is the fact that his dad is named Dick Furphy.
Should have named him Jizzle.
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I think this might be the first year in a long time I couldn't name the starting 5 for KU to save my life
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I think this might be the first year in a long time I couldn't name the starting 5 for KU to save my life
Ngl it's been that way for a bit for me, like 2020 was the last time I even knew most of their players and yes that is including their natty
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I think this might be the first year in a long time I couldn't name the starting 5 for KU to save my life
Ngl it's been that way for a bit for me, like 2020 was the last time I even knew most of their players and yes that is including their natty
Dickenson
Dotson?
McClure (sp?)
dark-skinned black dude big that I don't remember the name of, but who seems pretty good
I couldn't identify this Furphy kid out of a lineup.
Granted, I've watched roughly 3 minutes of their games altogether, that being the last few minutes of the WVU loss.
To be fair, I couldn't tell you much about KSU basketball the last couple of years under oscar.
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I think this might be the first year in a long time I couldn't name the starting 5 for KU to save my life
Ngl it's been that way for a bit for me, like 2020 was the last time I even knew most of their players and yes that is including their natty
Dickenson
Dotson?
McClure (sp?)
dark-skinned black dude big that I don't remember the name of, but who seems pretty good
I couldn't identify this Furphy kid out of a lineup.
Granted, I've watched roughly 3 minutes of their games altogether, that being the last few minutes of the WVU loss.
To be fair, I couldn't tell you much about KSU basketball the last couple of years under oscar.
I can't agree more, I can't even picture him
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I can picture KU losing 8 conference games this season. Will any other teams pictures look better?
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"ku doesn't look as good this year" :lol: is this really happening again
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"ku doesn't look as good this year" :lol: is this really happening again
Tale as old as time...
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Eventually it has to be true
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"Is Bill Self rebuilding instead of reloading?"
"Has Bill Self finally found a team that he cannot reach?"
"After losing All-Americans X, Y and Z from last years team, will KU be able to stay atop the Big XX??"
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We continue to be each other’s half-full/half-empty litmus test. If we beat them then we had a good year. If they lose to us they had a disappointing year.
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"ku doesn't look as good this year" :lol: is this really happening again
Buddy, they've already lost to the two worst teams in the conference
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I can picture KU losing 8 conference games this season. Will any other teams pictures look better?
(https://i.ibb.co/XCpBbXG/Screenshot-20240124-231709.png)
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if ksu goes 9-9 we are a lock so that's good
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Bill Self is the cool dad.
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He wears a Fitbit :love:
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Bill Self is the cool dad.
idk, he’s insecure enough that he got hair plugs
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Bill Self is the cool dad.
idk, he’s insecure enough that he got hair plugs
It really is a fantastic hair system.
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Bill Self is the cool dad.
idk, he’s insecure enough that he got hair plugs
I must be missing something here. What's the connection with hair plugs, insecurity, and Self?
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Bill Self is the cool dad.
idk, he’s insecure enough that he got hair plugs
I must be missing something here. What's the connection with hair plugs, insecurity, and Self?
don’t think too hard, I don’t want you to hurt yourself
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Purpleoil has hair plugs too? :Wha:
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I guess I was trying to look too deep into things, thinking you guys were referencing something specific with Bill Self and not just a balding guy wanting hair.
And no, I do not have hair plugs, at least not yet. It is unfortunately thinning though.
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bill gets older and his hair always stays the same age
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Bill Self's overall hair game far supersedes OSU FB Coach Ryan Day and former Duke mentor Coach K's dye game.
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Bill would look awful bald. He and Frank would constantly be grouped together in a very specific category of bald coaches. No way he can have that.
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he could just wear a wig, they’re pretty cool on some people
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The gap between Massa's forehead and hairline is, well, indicative of a hairpiece.
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it’s plugs bro
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He would look like a comic book evil villain. DC too, not Marvel.
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"We good?"
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They have Tech, OU, Baylor and Houston left on the road. I don't know who is winning the Big 12 this year, but it ain't KU.
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I don't know that the NIL and open transfer era will be great for KU. Sure, they will be able to pay for/get some top-tier dudes, but they used to have Burger boys lined up to sit the bench for multiple seasons before cracking the starting lineup.
Those days are gone. Dudes will either transfer out or not come at all if they have to wait their turn.
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I can't imagine they can really keep up with the large fanbase schools
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I can't imagine they can really keep up with the large fanbase schools
Tradition and reputation are very powerful recruiting tools in the "old world." In the "new world" I suspect that money will be more important. In the NFL, NBA, MLB and pro Soccer (globally) the amount of money you pay a player seems to be the largest determinant of landing high quality players.
So, the question is whether KU (relatively small university) and a collection of alumni from a very, very, very small population state in the middle of the country will have enough money to complete with schools with enrollments, state populations, and donor lists twice their size (or more) in the New World.
After Bill Self moves on, will the next crop of coaches look at Kansas the same way that Bill Self looked at Kansas?
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"Sure Tennessee, Auburn, Rutgers, and Washington are able to pay you vastly more than us, but we have a copy of the rules of basketball in hallway beside our basketball court."
I just don't know if that is going to matter, guys. I just don't know.
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If I am an 18 year old superstar, the last thing I care about is tradition. I would want to see the last couple of years having been successful, I want kids to recently have gone to the NBA, and I want to hear about how rough ridin' great the team I’m gonna be on is gonna be. Also, money.
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last night felt weird. like kstate sucks and didn't even play all that well and still managed to win. i didn't even really hate any of the ku players. they were boring.
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If I am an 18 year old superstar, the last thing I care about is tradition. I would want to see the last couple of years having been successful, I want kids to recently have gone to the NBA, and I want to hear about how rough ridin' great the team I’m gonna be on is gonna be. Also, money.
KU sends a lot of their players to the pros......there are smart players that will live with a subpar NIL for the chance to reap NBA riches. Or regular players with good agents.
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ku's roster is
xfer
xfer
kj adams
point guard (dodson?)
goofy white guy
goofy white guy
goofy white guy
goofy white guy
self must be done?
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KU now has 3 losses to BAD teams (UCF, WVU, and KSU). The inconsistency of our squad is wildly frustrating.
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last night felt weird. like kstate sucks and didn't even play all that well and still managed to win. i didn't even really hate any of the ku players. they were boring.
I thought I would hate Furphy (for the name if nothing else) but I felt nothing.
I'm indifferent about Harris.
Cannot hate a guy who shoots a gorgeous jumper the way KJ Adams can.
Dickinson = legitimate stud
don't remember anyone else
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KU now has 3 losses to BAD teams (UCF, WVU, and KSU). The inconsistency of our squad is wildly frustrating.
Inconsistent or maybe just not so good. Last night the crowd could have legitimately broke out with the "overrated" chant, because they are wildly overrated.
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Kansas has 4 guys that could play/start for anyone in the country.
Then Furphy
the rest of those guys wouldn't play anywhere except mid major and would be role players. Exception is Jackson and he's basically just a really good athlete.
Roster as a whole is bad,
I imagine some of that is Self not being able to recruit the way that they normally would compounded with his heart stuff, so they went out and bought Dickinson which in turn chased off all of their developing post guys.
Not going to attract a guard with McCullar and Harris.
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KU now has 3 losses to BAD teams (UCF, WVU, and KSU). The inconsistency of our squad is wildly frustrating.
For definition purposes, how many does it take before a team is t considered a good team?
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They're not good away from AFH. They are 1-4 on Big 12 roadies and only Iowa St seems like a good team out of those losses. They're soft.
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I can't imagine they can really keep up with the large fanbase schools
Tradition and reputation are very powerful recruiting tools in the "old world." In the "new world" I suspect that money will be more important. In the NFL, NBA, MLB and pro Soccer (globally) the amount of money you pay a player seems to be the largest determinant of landing high quality players.
So, the question is whether KU (relatively small university) and a collection of alumni from a very, very, very small population state in the middle of the country will have enough money to complete with schools with enrollments, state populations, and donor lists twice their size (or more) in the New World.
After Bill Self moves on, will the next crop of coaches look at Kansas the same way that Bill Self looked at Kansas?
You hurt my feelings.
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last night felt weird. like kstate sucks and didn't even play all that well and still managed to win. i didn't even really hate any of the ku players. they were boring.
I thought I would hate Furphy (for the name if nothing else) but I felt nothing.
I'm indifferent about Harris.
Cannot hate a guy who shoots a gorgeous jumper the way KJ Adams can.
Dickinson = legitimate stud
don't remember anyone else
McCullers or whatever seems pretty hateable, but agree overall.
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They're not good away from AFH. They are 1-4 on Big 12 roadies and only Iowa St seems like a good team out of those losses. They're soft.
This is honestly more true than not but this year it's exceedingly apparent. They just don't seem very interested playing basketball away from AFH. I truly think they get bounced before the first weekend of the tourny is done. Some mid major with 7 seniors will roll them.
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Kansas has 4 guys that could play/start for anyone in the country.
Then Furphy
the rest of those guys wouldn't play anywhere except mid major and would be role players. Exception is Jackson and he's basically just a really good athlete.
Roster as a whole is bad,
I imagine some of that is Self not being able to recruit the way that they normally would compounded with his heart stuff, so they went out and bought Dickinson which in turn chased off all of their developing post guys.
Not going to attract a guard with McCullar and Harris.
Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like Self has always had the most success with guys who have been in his program 2+ years. His teams that have done the best in March have been led by 3-4 year players. He should stick with that formula.
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Speaking with KU fans in the office today, they agreed with me that KU plays better with Dickinson on the bench. The team becomes too one-dimensional. HD get the ball down low he shoots it nearly every time. Very seldom does he kick it back out to his teammates.
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If you take my hatred for every player on the ku roster and added it up the sum would only be a fraction of the hatred I felt (maybe still feel? Will need to unpack that in therapy) for just Brandon Rush. And there are a lot of ku players I’ve hated more than Brandon Rush he was just one of the first ones that came to mind when I thought of ku players that are in the 2nd quartile of hatred
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Junkrubber Collins, Morningstar, the bb-gun twins, Thomas Robinson... so many douches over the years. Even Lightfoot surpasses anyone on this team.
What is happening in Lawrence? What is happening to Self and Townsend?
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Tyshawn Taylor really got under my skin for some reason.
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I can't imagine they can really keep up with the large fanbase schools
Tradition and reputation are very powerful recruiting tools in the "old world." In the "new world" I suspect that money will be more important. In the NFL, NBA, MLB and pro Soccer (globally) the amount of money you pay a player seems to be the largest determinant of landing high quality players.
So, the question is whether KU (relatively small university) and a collection of alumni from a very, very, very small population state in the middle of the country will have enough money to complete with schools with enrollments, state populations, and donor lists twice their size (or more) in the New World.
After Bill Self moves on, will the next crop of coaches look at Kansas the same way that Bill Self looked at Kansas?
You hurt my feelings.
Sadly for all of us, I might have been describing every school NOT in big 10 or SEC. :frown:
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I think its the fact that not many players stay at a school for 3-4 years so you can build up that hatred for them.
Rush/Collins/Morningstar/ellis (didnt actually hate him)/mason/graham etc all stayed there for years which let the hate build up.
Will anyone hate dickenson as much as Jeff Withey? Doubtful
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please bring back the morris twins. it’s impossible to feel anything but sorry for this group of lovable losers
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Even that De Sousio fella took an object used for sitting and turned it into a weapon I kinda hate that guy and didn’t he only play in like 10 games total?
They’ve lost their “it” factor, I guess is what I’m saying
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Like sure, they might be the finest, gourmet vanilla from Madagascar, but at the end of the day they are still just that…vanilla
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Even that De Sousio fella took an object used for sitting and turned it into a weapon I kinda hate that guy and didn’t he only play in like 10 games total?
They’ve lost their “it” factor, I guess is what I’m saying
Yeah, maybe getting older in it all anyways but I think the string of inexplicable/unlikely losses ku has had over the last few years are mounting up, as well we now can/do beat them with regularity. Their conference streak has been effectively killed with no real look like they will ever do that again. The just don't seem like this impossible juggernaut. Also I think this year specifically having Houston in the conference makes them stand out less. Yes ku best them but I bet Houston beats them in Houston by double digits. Zona coming next year will only lessen their grip even more.
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Like NU in football back in the day before the landscape changed, they had a nice run.
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Self just took the easy way out with Hunter. And probably hoped that furphy would be better at this point.
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Kansas Conference titles by decade
1900s - 2 (08, 09)
1910s - 5 (10, 11, 12, 14, 15)
1920s - 6 (22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27)
1930s - 7 (31, 32, 33, 34, 36, 37, 38)
1940s - 5 (40, 41, 42, 43, 46)
1950s - 5 (50, 52, 53, 54, 57)
1960s - 3 (60, 66, 67)
1970s - 4 (71, 74, 75, 78)
1980s - 1 (86)
1990s - 7 (91, 92, 93, 95, 96, 97, 98)
2000s - 7 (02, 03, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09)
2010s - 9* (10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18*)
2020s - 3 (20, 22, 23)
Will be interesting to see how far they regress post-Self and how they react to it. Their run has been otherworldy.
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Like NU in football back in the day before the landscape changed, they had a nice run.
Excellent comp, KU from 05-22 was basically NU football from 90-01 but with one less natty and a couple of more conference titles.
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Would love to have seen what self could have done at a north Carolina, Michigan, or Kentucky. The Saban of college basketball is a total possibility
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KSU, Iowa State, KU, and Okie State adjusted pretty well when the conference went from the Big 8 to the Big 12. I think Texas, and maybe TCU were schools that brought competitive basketball teams to the conference, but not threatening enough to really disrupt K-State's, KU's, Iowa State's, and Okie State's ability to compete for conference titles.
With expansion bringing Arizona and Houston, KU's challenge to maintain conference dominance will be more challenging than the initial Big 8 / SWC merger. KU fans have to be feeling a bit on edge - their model of recruiting can now be used by everyone now that NIL is in place. That, and Massa Seff's recent hospitalization on a heart issue, has to be making their fans wonder if that program is in its decline.
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their model of recruiting can now be used by everyone now that NIL is in place.
I mean... we all know this is what's really taking them down.
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The portal also makes it harder for them to spend 3 years developing some giant white guy into a double-double machine
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Self has gone the lazy route multiple times with guys like Cliff alexander and Selby?
Always thought that those are the guys that they're paying to bring in and then they're a mess because Self et al didn't really get to vet them.
Self's best teams have always been built on guys who have been in the program a long time and then they'll cherry pick/pay an instant impact guy.
Exception being their recent title when they brought in the guard from Az St and that one worked out.
But yes, it's getting hard now that everyone can do it and there's plenty of schools that have the same war chest.
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Speaking of NIL, a story I heard through someone who may be connected enough to know the guy who heads up the KU NIL cooperative;
There was a meeting with all the KU head coaches, so Leipold, WBB, BSB are all around the table - Self comes in late and immediately points at each in turn and says "I want your rough ridin' money and I want your rough ridin' money..." and "It's all going to the basketball team". I fully believe that Self and ethics are acquainted only through coincidence, but being that much of a dickhead is a stretch.
On second thought, I believe it and he's a total prick.
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Scott Pollard is in need of a heart transplant. Hope he gets it.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/former-nba-player-and-survivor-contestant-scot-pollard-waits-in-hospital-for-heart-transplant/ar-BB1hWLOp
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Scott Pollard is in need of a heart transplant. Hope he gets it.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/former-nba-player-and-survivor-contestant-scot-pollard-waits-in-hospital-for-heart-transplant/ar-BB1hWLOp
Damn. Hope he gets one and that donor dies painlessly.
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I know this will come as a surprise to everyone on this board but Self just got two T's and got tossed.. :Crybaby: (ftp://:Crybaby:)
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indeed quite a game going on in lubbock
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indeed quite a game going on in lubbock
Got absolutely worked over
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Damn….
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Pretty chickenshit of Bill to get ran so avoid experiencing the final minutes to that disgraceful exhibition, while leaving his team to take the ridicule. How many times has Bill watched his team roll over overmatched foes in AFH, going late in the game before subbing down? Not so fun when it's you mom, eh Bill?
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Pretty chickenshit of Bill to get ran so avoid experiencing the final minutes to that disgraceful exhibition, while leaving his team to take the ridicule. How many times has Bill watched his team roll over overmatched foes in AFH, going late in the game before subbing down? Not so fun when it's you mom, eh Bill?
Yeah. That's the moral lesson, dumbass.
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Pretty chickenshit of Bill to get ran so avoid experiencing the final minutes to that disgraceful exhibition, while leaving his team to take the ridicule. How many times has Bill watched his team roll over overmatched foes in AFH, going late in the game before subbing down? Not so fun when it's you mom, eh Bill?
Yeah. That's the moral lesson, dumbass.
Hee hee. This Big 12 season will get under the skin of all.
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The league is tough!!!
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Mad, mad, mad Sir Billy, he weakly moped away
to leave Hunter and KJ to continue their horrid play
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Very sad to see Hawk fans trying to ride the Chiefs' coattails:
In the last 2 calendar years going back from today, KU/Chiefs fans have experienced:
• 3 KU Hoops Big 12 Titles (2 Reg/1 Tourney)
• A KU Hoops National Championship
• 2 Bowl Eligible KU Football Teams (1 Win)
• 2 Chiefs Super Bowl Wins
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In the last year, I've enjoyed great experiences like 2 bottles of Dom Perignon and a box of Franzia.
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In the last year, I've enjoyed great experiences like 2 bottles of Dom Perignon and a box of Franzia.
Ok, that's p funny. lmao
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Kind of sad that Bill has such low self esteem that he can't stand out there and take a good beaten like a man.
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Witnessing the death of a star in Bill Self. Kind of sad honestly.
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Has the game has passed him by? Maybe his indulgence in booze, Johnny's fried pickles and loose coed women have caused a reckoning he hasn't been able to overcome? I :pray: (ftp://:pray:) he was better and he had a come to Jesus moment? And listen, I don't judge because we all have our vices but maybe his were\are some that won't hide that beet red face for long? It's a shame. :ohno: (ftp://:ohno:). I'm going to go back and review those technicals he had to see if It was in fact shitty Big 12 reffing or a relapse. If you don't hear from me soon I will be at the local church lighting a candle for him.
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Very sad to see Hawk fans trying to ride the Chiefs' coattails:
In the last 2 calendar years going back from today, KU/Chiefs fans have experienced:
• 3 KU Hoops Big 12 Titles (2 Reg/1 Tourney)
• A KU Hoops National Championship
• 2 Bowl Eligible KU Football Teams (1 Win)
• 2 Chiefs Super Bowl Wins
Even more sad they have to use Missouri so often in telling the world how great they are, kind of exposes epic levels of insecurity.
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Just KU Basketball related (not hurting related). It is incredible that humans can get heart transplants and I hope that Scott's surgery is a massive success:
https://twitter.com/DawnMPollard/status/1759005796405309760?s=20
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That's awesome. Like, I was happy for my grandpa when he was walking (in a walker) the day after is triple bypass, to have a whole heart is amazing. Just the technology we live in today is bananas.
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Very sad to see Hawk fans trying to ride the Chiefs' coattails:
In the last 2 calendar years going back from today, KU/Chiefs fans have experienced:
• 3 KU Hoops Big 12 Titles (2 Reg/1 Tourney)
• A KU Hoops National Championship
• 2 Bowl Eligible KU Football Teams (1 Win)
• 2 Chiefs Super Bowl Wins
Even more sad they have to use Missouri so often in telling the world how great they are, kind of exposes epic levels of insecurity.
They are literally giving missouri their money to let them use a stadium. The rivalry is over, mizzou won.
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That's awesome. Like, I was happy for my grandpa when he was walking (in a walker) the day after is triple bypass, to have a whole heart is amazing. Just the technology we live in today is bananas.
I was shocked when I heard that about Scot. Seemed too young. I'm old enough to remember when that procedure was a death sentence. Soon we'll be 3D printing hearts (not really, but something that will blow my mind).
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Good news.
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That's awesome. Like, I was happy for my grandpa when he was walking (in a walker) the day after is triple bypass, to have a whole heart is amazing. Just the technology we live in today is bananas.
I was shocked when I heard that about Scot. Seemed too young. I'm old enough to remember when that procedure was a death sentence. Soon we'll be 3D printing hearts (not really, but something that will blow my mind).
his dad died at age 54 from the same condition
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That's awesome. Like, I was happy for my grandpa when he was walking (in a walker) the day after is triple bypass, to have a whole heart is amazing. Just the technology we live in today is bananas.
I was shocked when I heard that about Scot. Seemed too young. I'm old enough to remember when that procedure was a death sentence. Soon we'll be 3D printing hearts (not really, but something that will blow my mind).
his dad died at age 54 from the same condition
I did not know that, but that puts it into perspective. Thank you.
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That's awesome. Like, I was happy for my grandpa when he was walking (in a walker) the day after is triple bypass, to have a whole heart is amazing. Just the technology we live in today is bananas.
I was shocked when I heard that about Scot. Seemed too young. I'm old enough to remember when that procedure was a death sentence. Soon we'll be 3D printing hearts (not really, but something that will blow my mind).
his dad died at age 54 from the same condition
I did not know that, but that puts it into perspective. Thank you.
ya I can’t imagine having to deal with that hanging over his shoulders through all of this and trying to do everything he could not to succumb to the same fate.
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Thankfully both of my folks are still alive (and 2 grandparents), but I feel like it will be absolutely devastating to lose them. We have decent longevity, on average. I hope Scot pulls through. He tweeted me once, so he holds a special place in my heart.
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Scott Pollard being 50 makes me feel so rough ridin' old
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I'm 52. I know what you mean.
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BYU being introduced to Phog cooking.
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BYU being introduced to Phog cooking.
I mean someday, someday, it won't be a thing. Now isn't it
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After the tech, the fouls have evened out -- and BYU leads. Assume in crunch time, refs will gift KU
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After the tech, the fouls have evened out -- and BYU leads. Assume in crunch time, refs will gift KU
Yeah can’t give too many too early and make it obvious
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Classic Self TO to work over the refs and seal this down 5
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Real question is how does BYU protest when they lose this on a 5 step 3 and 1
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My advice to Hunter is to Keep Sweet and Pray.
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Self has lost his fastball :frown:
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Dickinson choked so bad
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Well damn
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We are their next home game. When was the last time they lost back to back at Allen?
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We are their next home game. When was the last time they lost back to back at Allen?
Idk, but honestly I weirdly feel we win. Not cause we're good and they suck, just vibes
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:lol: :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol: :lol:) Omg... How are they ranked it the top 10?
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We are their next home game. When was the last time they lost back to back at Allen?
Idk, but honestly I weirdly feel we win. Not cause we're good and they suck, just vibes
And suck is relative. They are obviously better than us. Though they are bound to not make it last the round of 32
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With just under 8 to play, KU had a foul advantage of 22-9 and a 2 point lead, picking up a charge call on a Braun flop. Pope goes postal, gets tech, and BYU gets an even called game down the stretch with KU finishing with a final foul advantage of 24-18.
Pope out-Selfed Self.
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With just under 8 to play, KU had a foul advantage of 22-9 and a 2 point lead, picking up a charge call on a Braun flop. Pope goes postal, gets tech, and BYU gets an even called game down the stretch with KU finishing with a final foul advantage of 24-18.
Pope out-Selfed Self.
12 other big 12 teams have tried and failed. Guess being that close to the promise land helps
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If we beat KU and Cincy and then have to play KU in the first round of the Big 12 tourney and win, will that hurt our NET? They could screw us getting into the dance?
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Win 2 of last 3 and we are in.
right?
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Win 2 of last 3 and we are in.
right?
Having not looked at anything, but just having a GUT feeling. This sounds about right.
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Very respectable 0.500 in conference, but I'd feel a whole lot better with 3 more wins.
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They were awful in the last 10 minutes.
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Dickinson is such a rat
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:ohno: Stroke!?
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It hurts, but I feel better in that I didn't watch it. :gocho:
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:ohno: Stroke!?
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if there’s anyone left in his family that still cares for him, they would get him help asap.
i’ve seen possums that have better temperament than the head coaches of ku’s two major sports
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Is there a whining competition brewing between Bill and lance?
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Is there a whining competition brewing between Bill and lance?
how would you feel having to live in lawrentucky?
bill self makes frank martin look like the dalai lama
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Bill has been the top dawg whiner at ku for 2 decades and little lance thinks he can come in and take the title? A bit disrespectful if you ask me and it's obviously causing a hit to bill's health but maybe lance just doesn't care
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I'm not sure if I should mention this, but I have it on good authority that 'clams secretly loves Lawrence. After all, it IS the best town in Kansas. Or Kanza, if you will.
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Towns not named Salina are competing for 2nd tbh
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I'm not sure if I should mention this, but I have it on good authority that 'clams secretly loves Lawrence. After all, it IS the best town in Kansas. Or Kanza, if you will.
I went to play disc golf at Centennial Park - holy cats! Homeless people everywhere. So I scooted over to Riverfront Park to play that course, and what did I find? Even more homeless people than were at Centennial. I heard the homeless problem was even worse over at Johnny's by the bridge. I guess if you go for the seedy vibe, Lawrence is your kind of place.
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https://twitter.com/DawnMPollard/status/1763324541177393364
Huge Win. Very happy for him
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Obviously should have been thunderstruck
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Ahhuuhhhhhuhhahhh Pollard!! Ahhuuhhhhuhhahhh Pollard!!!
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https://twitter.com/DawnMPollard/status/1763324541177393364
Huge Win. Very happy for him
Very happy for him. As someone who has gone through an illness that left me very sick, I empathize so much more. Being in a wheelchair going through the airport is a very humbling experience. Also coming out on the other side being healthy, you just appreciate things more.
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Modern medicine is marvelous.
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Modern medicine is marvelous.
if only more people were able to benefit from it.
the corruption in our government that has allowed the health care system in the US to be exploited to the extent that it has will be looked upon very poorly by our decedants
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Modern medicine is marvelous.
if only more people were able to benefit from it.
the corruption in our government that has allowed the health care system in the US to be exploited to the extent that it has will be looked upon very poorly by our decedants
That's if we don't ascend into religious theocracy, in which case we merely allowed the free market to work as the good lord intended whilst hastening his followers into his heavenly embrace. QUICK, TO THE PIT! :buh-bye:
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Modern medicine is marvelous.
if only more people were able to benefit from it.
the corruption in our government that has allowed the health care system in the US to be exploited to the extent that it has will be looked upon very poorly by our decedants
That's if we don't ascend into religious theocracy, in which case we merely allowed the free market to work as the good lord intended whilst hastening his followers into his heavenly embrace. QUICK, TO THE PIT! :buh-bye:
At least we beat ku this year
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Modern medicine is marvelous.
if only more people were able to benefit from it.
the corruption in our government that has allowed the health care system in the US to be exploited to the extent that it has will be looked upon very poorly by our decedants
That's if we don't ascend into religious theocracy, in which case we merely allowed the free market to work as the good lord intended whilst hastening his followers into his heavenly embrace. QUICK, TO THE PIT! :buh-bye:
At least we beat ku this year
looks like we should get used to it
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Modern medicine is marvelous.
if only more people were able to benefit from it.
the corruption in our government that has allowed the health care system in the US to be exploited to the extent that it has will be looked upon very poorly by our decedants
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I think clams just turned me on
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And if the world collectively agreed war is an absurd method of conflict resolution, health care could be a primary concern and a as place money could otherwise be spent*
*my math has not been double checked
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'clams mom will change the wifi password if she catches him in the pit, so he will -- on occasion -- bring the pit to him
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Lost two in a row, 3 of the 5, and 4 of the last 7, and they still have to play @ Houston. We might provide them the only reprieve.
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The Phog has been quite enjoyable over the last several weeks. It sad to see them turn on each other so quickly though.
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Big game. Everything in front of us, and we show up with this. eff this team. I hope Tang can recruit some ballhandlers for next year, because another year of this is break us all.
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KU losing today is a bad omen for Tuesday.
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KU losing today is a bad omen for Tuesday.
for ku
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KU will not be losing the Sunflower Showdown (presented by Dillons).
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KU will not be losing the Sunflower Showdown (presented by Dillons).
They already did
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Big game. Everything in front of us, and we show up with this. eff this team. I hope Tang can recruit some ballhandlers for next year, because another year of this is break us all.
Last year's cats team beats this ku team at AFH by double digits.
This year either we win by 2 or lose by 20+.
Regardless cool ku makes the tourny. Maybe they survive the first weekend, maybe. But the whooping Houston will do to them is due again in the next couple of weeks
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KU will not be losing the Sunflower Showdown (presented by Dillons).
They already did
Wouldn't be surprised if our name brand team isn't excited to go against the Kroger brand team to the east.
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so i’m just catching up on bill self getting all up in his feelings about the post-game handshake between him and tang not meeting bill’s handshake expectations.
as the head coach of a KU sport, he’s obviously gotta complain about something and since they got every single whistle during the game, what else is left to go on about? why not attack the opposing coach who had been nothing but complimentary of you in the days leading up to the game, that’s what I always say.
it’s really terrible how the pills he’s obviously addicted to are tarnishing his legacy. let’s just hope he makes it through the rest of the season without another heart attack.
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Tang shook his hand so this crying may be the pills exclusively
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https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/1766235113564897637
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:frown:
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East coast bias smh
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40 years ago Kornheiser would have said "Georgetown, Indiana and UCLA" there and he would have been wrong then too.
It's time for some new blood at the top anyways.
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Big game. Everything in front of us, and we show up with this. eff this team. I hope Tang can recruit some ballhandlers for next year, because another year of this is break us all.
Last year's cats team beats this ku team at AFH by double digits.
This year either we win by 2 or lose by 20+.
Regardless cool ku makes the tourny. Maybe they survive the first weekend, maybe. But the whooping Houston will do to them is due again in the next couple of weeks
Whooping in progress
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Bro. They are getting beat on the scoreboard and the try hard sheet
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Have to wonder if this is it for Bill. Go out on his own terms before Arizona gets to town and KU has to actually fire him.
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Have to wonder if this is it for Bill. Go out on his own terms before Arizona gets to town and KU has to actually fire him.
Houston and Az are definitely going to make his life harder. Probably the best thing in the world for their football program.
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KU playing like a team coming off its super bowl win.
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Have to wonder if this is it for Bill. Go out on his own terms before Arizona gets to town and KU has to actually fire him.
Houston and Az are definitely going to make his life harder. Probably the best thing in the world for their football program.
The move is to trade out Self for Scott Drew. Would neutralize Baylor and give them someone 10 years younger with a natty already in tow.
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I think there is actual hate between drew and KU.
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Just getting boat raced
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Joe Lunardi has ku going to the final four, and beating Uconn to do so.
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This is rough ridin' hilarious
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Houston is so fun to watch. Their recent UCF game was amaze too.
They have the flavors I crave.
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hopefully kelvin shakes bill’s hand appropriately after this ass beating
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STOP THE DAMN MATCH
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Joe Lunardi has ku going to the final four, and beating Uconn to do so.
Yeah, someone is on crack.
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Houston beats any team in the nation today. That was a national championship performance.
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Houston beats any team in the nation today. That was a national championship performance.
I’ve never seen a Houston home game where they haven’t looked like that. They’re a machine. Remind me of Huggs/Frank teams on steroids.
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Slept through it but wow!
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KU had an amazing run there. You can't take that away from them.
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Houston beats any team in the nation today. That was a national championship performance.
I’ve never seen a Houston home game where they haven’t looked like that. They’re a machine. Remind me of Huggs/Frank teams on steroids.
Yep. Their floor and their ceiling are a lot closer together than most teams I have watched this year.
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KU had an amazing run there. You can't take that away from them.
35 years of whipping ass, we will never see anything like it again.
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KU had an amazing run there. You can't take that away from them.
35 years of whipping ass, we will never see anything like it again.
Yup, all good things come to an end
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Phog is blaming doc Sadler
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Makes sense.
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how long is dickinson going to be out for? how long does a shoulder separation take to heal?
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just pull the plug
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I propose we smoosh our two teams together, under the eye of Tang, for a tournament run.
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Dejuan Harris would have made this Cats team salty that's for sure.
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KU shouldn't even play in the NCAAs. A ceiling of the Sweet 16 with the nation watching Dickinson flop and wine is not going to benefit them.
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this sucks
https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1767334640723898704?s=61&t=kHH-k8anwIfPUMhwWRaDiA
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Not for Wednesday ticket prices it doesn't
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Goodness
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its pretty clear that ol' slick willy had decided its natty or bust. he was regretting leaving dickinson in the UH game when it was already a rout and then this happens. would honestly be surprised if any of the starting 5 get off of their butts the entire game. its time to rest up and focus on the real prize. this week is merely a small time losery distraction. if isu is getting super horny about it then that should tell you everything you need to know. #wingsup
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Will conference tourneys become the new bowl game that players "opt out" of?
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Will conference tourneys become the new bowl game that players "opt out" of?
bet Da'Sean Butler wishes he would have opted out
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Will conference tourneys become the new bowl game that players "opt out" of?
There is plenty at stake in a conference tourney. Even if you consider a Conference Tournament Title to be meaningless, the outcome definitely has an impact on NCAA seeding, which is one of the best predictors of success.
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Get the eff out of my conferencee, you castrated cows.
I think one turnover the second half, a push off on N'G. That makes a big difference.
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Get the eff out of my conferencee, you castrated cows.
I think one turnover the second half, a push off on N'G. That makes a big difference.
Hitting the Buffalo Trace?
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Get the eff out of my conferencee, you castrated cows.
I think one turnover the second half, a push off on N'G. That makes a big difference.
Hitting the Buffalo Trace?
Ask not for whom the ball kicks
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what is kansas (university) doing?
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we’re witnessing the end of an era
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what is kansas (university) doing?
I too want to know
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They are fighting like fictional birds, god bless em. Coach em up, Billy Boy.
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Fran, openly cheering for KU, says "you almost root for him"meaning the gutless Timberlake as he bricks another open 3.
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I mean my god, they were getting 4 or 5 points in this game? I honestly hope they don't ruin locking in a 5 seed.
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I certainly dont take any pleasure in them falling from grace
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both announcers have been dragging the officiating all night
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Is it possible that Bill did not survive his condition last year and they just trotted out a body double? Team just has not been the same since that moment.
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Serious question, do they end the season in the top 25
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For missing their top 2 players, I have to say I was impressed even though they lost. The talent is young but it can be molded by Bill. This was a salty Cincy team. It really could have been another 30 point beat down but they kept it to 20 in an Kansas environment. :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)
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Takeaway Adams, and a feckless effort all around.
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This is the first time since 1919 that KU has lost back-to-back games by 20 points or more. Quite a legacy Bill is leaving.
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There was some quote, I wish I could find it, from Bill after the adidas stuff was settled where he implied that it was on now and that they would be getting more talent going forward. That’s definitely not what I see on the floor, but I think they have another good recruiting class coming in.
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(https://media1.tenor.com/m/s2DMo6LYhTAAAAAC/the-dude-give-up.gif)
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It’s pretty wild that 22-10 (10-8) is so relatively bad for them, but they haven’t had a season approaching this since 1999-00 under Roy when they finished 5th in the conference at 11-5 and lost in the second round in KC to finish the reg season 22-8 (helped of course by three wins against a hapless ksu team).
They were a 9 seed that season, and lost to No. 1 seed Duke in the second round.
It was the second in a pair of two “down” years under Roy, but they were young and talented, and the young core of that team would grow into a group that would lead them to back-to-back F4s before Roy left for UNC.
There is none of that with this Self squad. This is the end for them in terms of dominance, at least under Self.
I didn’t think Self was long for KU after the heart problems last year. Plus, like Saban and many others, this new era of open transfers and NIL (essentially pay for play) has created a landscape that if I’m Bill Sellf I don’t have the stomach for.
Will KU rebound and be respectable and a strong national contender at times going forward? Probably, they have as good a pedigree and track record of any program in the country. But this phenomenal 35ish (40 years of you include Larry B) year run under Roy and Self is over.
They’re still in the lead pack, but they’re in the pack now, especially with Houston and Arizona coming in.
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Is it possible that Bill did not survive his condition last year and they just trotted out a body double? Team just has not been the same since that moment.
there’s definitely some kate middleton energy going on here
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That article is LOL. The only reason Self wouldn’t “have the stomach” for the current NIL environment is the competition.
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That article is LOL. The only reason Self wouldn’t “have the stomach” for the current NIL environment is the competition.
Nice effort to get out in front of the ku would have no national titles if they hadn't cheated
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I certainly dont take any pleasure in them falling from grace
I take immense pleasure in them falling from grace.
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That article is LOL. The only reason Self wouldn’t “have the stomach” for the current NIL environment is the competition.
The "Old Nick Saban".
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That article is LOL. The only reason Self wouldn’t “have the stomach” for the current NIL environment is the competition.
Exactly. He's been playing the NIL game since before NIL was allowed. His only problem now is that everyone else can do it.
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And the free market has drastically upped the price. Gone are the days of getting a blue chip recruit for a leased Cadillac and 10k in a gym bag.
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Self also has run into a more determined cheater in Sampson. That's got to burn.
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Will Doug Compton up his game? Will it matter?
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They will still likely be in the top 4 most years but they won't have a strangle hold on the conference like they have for 3 decades
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They will still likely be in the top 4 most years but they won't have a strangle hold on the conference like they have for 3 decades
Frickin' conference expansion ...
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That article is LOL. The only reason Self wouldn’t “have the stomach” for the current NIL environment is the competition.
The "Old Nick Saban".
Precisely
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meaningless exhibition, confirmed:
Kansas Jayhawk Fans
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Even though it sucks to admit it (because we all want to win as many games as possible), sitting out Kevin and Hunter & losing in our 1st game of the Big 12 Tournament was probably the best thing to happen for us in regards to advancing further in the NCAA Tournament. We have no depth even when we are healthy…and chances are that we weren’t going to win the Big 12 Tourney without our studs, so what’s the point in playing our other guys another 40 minutes if we beat Cincy? Instead we have a minimum of 8 days to rest/heal up for the real deal…and let the best coach in college hoops start game planning.
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Like I said, throw in the damn towel.
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The thing I've admired about Phogistan aka KU T-Shirt Fan Nation is their amazing ability to unilaterally declare when something is or is not a "meaningless exhibition" or declaring that (insert team name here) just got hot and won a basketball tournament.
It's fantastic
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The thing I've admired about Phogistan aka KU T-Shirt Fan Nation is their amazing ability to unilaterally declare when something is or is not a "meaningless exhibition" or declaring that (insert team name here) just got hot and won a basketball tournament.
It's fantastic
No, it's time to turn the lights off, thank the band for its efforts, break down the tents, and let the folks go home. This is a lost season.
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Yes, Self should turn down an NCAA invite.
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I would respect the hell out of him
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KU's first round matchup against Samford is a tricky one. Samford presses 24/7/365 apparently.
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KU's first round matchup against Samford is a tricky one. Samford presses 24/7/365 apparently.
They're also like 29-5 and won both their regular season title and conference tournament title. I think KU survives but is out in the Round of 32. I'm just surprised we still got a 4 seed.
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I thought I saw a committee guy saying they check on injury statuses with teams. I wonder what info they were fed.
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I thought I saw a committee guy saying they check on injury statuses with teams. I wonder what info they were fed.
The scuttlebutt is that both McCullar (knee bruise) and Dickinson (separated shoulder) are expected to be available. I personally don't understand how you can separate a shoulder and play high-level basketball fewer than 2 weeks later.
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I thought I saw a committee guy saying they check on injury statuses with teams. I wonder what info they were fed.
The scuttlebutt is that both McCullar (knee bruise) and Dickinson (separated shoulder) are expected to be available. I personally don't understand how you can separate a shoulder and play high-level basketball fewer than 2 weeks later.
Yeah I get being like 22 and having training and meds help but there is a literal practical limit to that
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I just listened to Self's press conference from today, and he says Dickinson has been practicing (no contact) the last few days, and tomorrow he'll go full contact. Makes me think that maybe the severity of the injury was exaggerated.
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Historically bad season for Self ends with the Hawks lined up to make the S16.
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I just listened to Self's press conference from today, and he says Dickinson has been practicing (no contact) the last few days, and tomorrow he'll go full contact. Makes me think that maybe the severity of the injury was exaggerated.
his shoulder popped back in immediately which apparently limited the possible ligament damage
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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/39753889/2024-ncaa-tournament-instant-bracket-espn-predicts-how-men-march-madness
Midwest Region (Detroit)
FIRST ROUND PICKS
No. 1 Purdue 88, No. 16 Montana State 63
No. 9 TCU 76, No. 8 Utah State 73
No. 12 McNeese 81, No. 5 Gonzaga 79
No. 13 Samford 78, No. 4 Kansas 77
No. 6 South Carolina 65, No. 11 Oregon 60
No. 3 Creighton 79, No. 14 Akron 64
No. 7 Texas 70, No. 10 Colorado State 68
No. 2 Tennessee 83, No. 15 Saint Peter's 57
REGION ANALYSIS: This region has blow-up potential when it comes to double-digit upsets. 12-seed McNeese and 13-seed Samford play fast, they force turnovers and they'll be fearless entering the NCAA tournament -- which could spell trouble for 5-seed Gonzaga and 4-seed Kansas, respectively. Samford's matchup with Kansas is particularly intriguing, given the Bulldogs' "Bucky Ball" style against a Jayhawks team riddled with injuries right now
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I will be taking the Hawks to the Final Four in my bracket.
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I will be taking the Hawks to the Final Four in my bracket.
I'm not sure what to do with Purdue. Having a team focused around a 7'4" player has not traditionally been a formula for success in the Torn-A-Ment
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This might be the year they finally win the whole thing
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Hunter will put that Purdue freak away.
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Hunter will put that Purdue freak away.
*foul him out
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Hunter will put that Purdue freak away.
Yeah, no. Hunter is elite on offense, but he doesn't really play defense.
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Hunter will put that Purdue freak away.
Yeah, no. Hunter is elite on offense, but he doesn't really play defense.
Foul him out, then. This is Hunter's big chance.
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Tough news on McCullar not playing. Seems like that should probably be the death blow.
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Tough news on McCullar not playing. Seems like that should probably be the death blow.
yeah alternatively, he seems like a giant male genitals so oh well if true.
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Tough news on McCullar not playing. Seems like that should probably be the death blow.
yeah alternatively, he seems like a giant male genitals so oh well if true.
The hate being spewed by Hawk fans toward this young person on the socials is gut wrenching to watch.
How big was the bag of cash he was given for coming to KU?
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Hunter will put that Purdue freak away.
Yeah, no. Hunter is elite on offense, but he doesn't really play defense.
Foul him out, then. This is Hunter's big chance.
It’s like i always say…the bigger they are, the larger they are
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I change my vote. I am picking KU to lose in the first round. Sorry guys, I am ruled by the cold hand of pure logic.
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I’ll be rooting for KU but will have them falling to Samford in my bracket after seeing what happened in their last game without that one guy.
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Did bill really sabotage the post season just to beat the cats?
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KU simply can't handle the rigors of the new B12. They've been slipping for a while now and Houston is just light years beyond them at this point.
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"For the last month, I've been thinking about next season to be honest" - Bill Self
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Respect
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KU simply can't handle the rigors of the new B12. They've been slipping for a while now and Houston is just light years beyond them at this point.
I think you just saw why Gonzaga hasn't and won't be allowed to join the B12. KU can't handle another team beating their ass on a regular basis.
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KU simply can't handle the rigors of the new B12. They've been slipping for a while now and Houston is just light years beyond them at this point.
I think you just saw why Gonzaga hasn't and won't be allowed to join the B12. KU can't handle another team beating their ass on a regular basis.
Lol that ku has any power in this league
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KU simply can't handle the rigors of the new B12. They've been slipping for a while now and Houston is just light years beyond them at this point.
I think you just saw why Gonzaga hasn't and won't be allowed to join the B12. KU can't handle another team beating their ass on a regular basis.
Lol that ku has any power in this league
Damn, valid point. I didn't think that post through.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ranked-the-25-best-men-s-college-basketball-coaches-of-all-time/ss-BB1l1ao6?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=10f26e68093945d8aba0fac5229481bd&ei=13#image=21
So, Massa Seff is rated behind coach Roy?
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If msn.com says so, it must be true.
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Calipari ranked ahead of Jay Wright? I declare that study to be invalid.
Edit: Lute Olson ranked ahead of Jay Wright? :lol:
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https://twitter.com/KUTheShiver/status/1777727080483922073
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I think Uconn should start a "only us and UCLA can claim to have similar stretches of greatness club, called Club U" and not bother with the Blue Bloods
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I guess a guy wrote an entire PhD dissertation on this topic one time:
https://twitter.com/mschmidt74/status/1777748422365249785
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A lot of his self-worth must be tied up in this Blue Blood thing. It has to be extremely frustrating to see UConn start from scratch and lap KU's historic accomplishments all in his lifetime.
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A lot of his self-worth must be tied up in this Blue Blood thing. It has to be extremely frustrating to see UConn start from scratch and lap KU's historic accomplishments all in his lifetime.
Basically how I feel about Baylor, and it really ticks me off!
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If sports aren’t a “what have you done for me lately” thing, then you personally have an issue you need to recognize so you don’t get taken advantage of. The idea of tradition is simply someone getting in your pocket. What someone did more than one coach ago means rough ridin' zero.
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Self is really whipping ass in the portal.
https://twitter.com/RobDauster/status/1783844307138498944
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Apparently Kugel isn't going to make it due to academic stuff.
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Apparently Kugel isn't going to make it due to academic stuff.
Source? We could really use his vaginal wall muscles.
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I've watched a fair number of Kugel's games and I don't think his schizophrenia is a good pairing with Self. He scored 20+ five times this year and then had nearly half of his games where he scored 5 points or less.
He's all over the place and I wouldn't think Self would tolerate it too long.
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Self's recruiting in the portal era has been incredibly lazy. Seems to continue that trend.
just gonna pump and dump his roster each year
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Self's recruiting in the portal era has been incredibly lazy. Seems to continue that trend.
just gonna pump and dump his roster each year
Just landed Rylen Griffin, and Dickinson is coming back. Maybe Furphy, too. It's been a pretty good portal season so far. Never bet against Billy Self Jr.
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Self's recruiting in the portal era has been incredibly lazy. Seems to continue that trend.
just gonna pump and dump his roster each year
Just landed Rylen Griffin, and Dickinson is coming back. Maybe Furphy, too. It's been a pretty good portal season so far. Never bet against Billy Self Jr.
heard that last year
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Self's recruiting in the portal era has been incredibly lazy. Seems to continue that trend.
just gonna pump and dump his roster each year
Just landed Rylen Griffin, and Dickinson is coming back. Maybe Furphy, too. It's been a pretty good portal season so far. Never bet against Billy Self Jr.
If Self talks Furphy out of a first round draft selection he's not as washed as I thought
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The KU nil war chest is obviously very depleted or empty now and Self is obviously under a ton of pressure to make this class of transfer misfits work. This isn't his schtick and now we will see how secure those plugs are. Real or not his hair will be thinning by the clumps.
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Yeah, it kinda sucks. Bill made his bones recruiting blue chips and letting them mature in the program, so that by junior or senior year, KU had a decided advantage. We are now in a different era. I see Self trying to adapt to fit the times, but I'm sure it feels unnatural to him.
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well what’s happening now is unnatural to any coach so
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Bill with upperclassmen is best in the biz
can he dominate in the jumbled mess of the current system?
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Bill with upperclassmen is best in the biz
can he dominate in the jumbled mess of the current system?
We'll see. After all, he's only 2 years removed from winning it all.
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Apparently Kugel isn't going to make it due to academic stuff.
Couldn't get into Harvard on the Kaw, time to become a cat?