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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: OlatheWildcat on December 15, 2011, 05:38:12 PM
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Interviewed for Coastal Carolina head coaching position supposedly.
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Interviewed for Coastal Carolina head coaching position supposedly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EChnZTJicw :lol:
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it is going to sting to hear the sean to DC news.
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it is going to sting to hear the sean to DC news.
Crap. Good point. Who can we bring in to upgrade Special Teams?
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I hate cosh and all but WTF would/could we get to come and work for OB scares the bejeezus out of me.
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Sean would make a great DC. Not sure what you guys are thinking.
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Congrats, Chris! Knock'em dead on the Atlantic Coast!
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:crossfingers: :pray:
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I think it's funny that Cosh could land a job just by riding the coat tails of Arthur Brown! It's very :opcat: of him!
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Didn't Vic Koenning just mysteriously resign his present gig with a "no comment" when asked where he was headed?
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Didn't Vic Koenning just mysteriously resign his present gig with a "no comment" when asked where he was headed?
would trade Cosh for VK in a heartbeat but I don't think it's even a remote possibility.
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Didn't Vic Koenning just mysteriously resign his present gig with a "no comment" when asked where he was headed?
would trade Cosh for VK in a heartbeat but I don't think it's even a remote possibility.
Might as well beat Fitz to it: It's Koenning!!!
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Coastal Carolina: I have learned that current special teams coordinator / wide receivers / assistant head coach Maurice Drayton interviewed this morning for the head coaching job.
:dunno:
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:comehere: Calling it now, he will make a great head coach, works hard(Came back to coach with LHCBS) , well connected....has had a lot of jobs in different places... should be able to assemble a decent staff. Don't need to be a good coordinator to be a great HC.
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:crossfingers:
leavitt- would come back to be the lone DC i would hope
koenning- if the bridge is not burnt
mike stoops- doubt it
anybody else?
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there was grumblings that an assistant coach was getting forced out a few weeks ago...
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:comehere: Calling it now, he will make a great head coach, works hard(Came back to coach with LHCBS) , well connected....has had a lot of jobs in different places... should be able to assemble a decent staff. Don't need to be a good coordinator to be a great HC.
Yes but what if he takes the rest of the staff with him like that fat drunk tried to do a few years ago? :ohno: :shakesfist:
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Could Chris Cosh coach Coastal Carolina confidently? Concerned Catbackers could consider compensating coaching candidates concurrently.
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Could Chris Cosh coach Coastal Carolina confidently? Concerned Catbackers could consider compensating coaching candidates concurrently.
heh :thumbs:
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:comehere: Calling it now, he will make a great head coach, works hard(Came back to coach with LHCBS) , well connected....has had a lot of jobs in different places... should be able to assemble a decent staff. Don't need to be a good coordinator to be a great HC.
Yes but what if he takes the rest of the staff with him like that fat drunk tried to do a few years ago? :ohno: :shakesfist:
To coastal Carolina :dubious:
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:comehere: Calling it now, he will make a great head coach, works hard(Came back to coach with LHCBS) , well connected....has had a lot of jobs in different places... should be able to assemble a decent staff. Don't need to be a good coordinator to be a great HC.
Yes but what if he takes the rest of the staff with him like that fat drunk tried to do a few years ago? :ohno: :shakesfist:
To coastal Carolina :dubious:
Up and coming program. Besides, Snyder is a slave driver. Rumor is they'd all like to spend more time with their families.
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Del Miller promoted to DC?
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Am I the only one that got the impression that Koenning burned every bridge out of Manhattan on his way to Illinois? Did anyone else see his opening press conference there? He all but said Snyder hates his guts now.
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I hate cosh and all but WTF would/could we get to come and work for OB scares the bejeezus out of me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzLMryKGLF0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzLMryKGLF0)
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Mangino?
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:crossfingers: but I'm not going to :grin: until he is :cheese: to carolina or he is on :AA: until then this si all :bs:
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Completely unrelated, but fr@ck me, :thumbsup: That s/n is stellar.
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thank goodness because it is now clear that Cosh was the problem last year :facepalm:
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I want Cosh gone as much as the next guy. But after seeing how our defense compared against other units against Big12 spread offenses, who should Old Saggy Bag go after if Cosh splits?
I dislike fast-break football with a passion but it's here to stay. How can we expect better results without top 20 talent (and it isn't coming to KSU no matter how much we wish), regardless of who the DC is?
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This season has been magical. But at K-State, where there's magic - catastrophe is right around the corner.
Sean Snyder will be our next DC.
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cosh doesn't stick out to me as any worse than any of our other assistants.
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cosh doesn't stick out to me as any worse than any of our other assistants.
I like Charlie Dickey. I don't really know why. I just like him.
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That OB DB coach would become DC. Optimistic that there's a better LB position coach out there
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cosh doesn't stick out to me as any worse than any of our other assistants.
I like Charlie Dickey. I don't really know why. I just like him.
yeah, he seems pretty good
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That OB DB coach would become DC. Optimistic that there's a better LB position coach out there
Hayes. Woof. Though he does have the most experience on staff at managing a Kansas City area Tanners.
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people i have talked to seem very impressed with Hayes and what he has brought to the staff.
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people i have talked to seem very impressed with Hayes and what he has brought to the staff.
jalapeno cheese balls
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cosh doesn't stick out to me as any worse than any of our other assistants.
I like Charlie Dickey. I don't really know why. I just like him.
yeah, he seems pretty good
Dickey is damn good, he is our best assistant coach by far. To be honest I'm surprised (and very grateful) he hasn't been offered a job by a bigger school yet.
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people i have talked to seem very impressed with Hayes and what he has brought to the staff.
jalapeno cheese balls
:fatty: :lick:
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i assumed it was some variation of Werthers. because he is old.
hur hur hur
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Dickey is not our best Coach "by far."
Dimel and Miller are actually some of the best offensive Schemers in the entire business of College football. Dimel doesn't get the credit he deserves. He's legit.
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Yeah, I like most of our coaches.
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Our staff is pretty solid. Obviously, we're missing a D-Coordinator.
We're also missing a recruting coordinator. We need a young, former standout football player from a big BCS program. Michael Smith is stale.
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Gordon is our recruiting coord. iirc
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That OB DB coach would become DC. Optimistic that there's a better LB position coach out there
Hayes. Woof. Though he does have the most experience on staff at managing a Kansas City area Tanners.
I will wait for 1BigWillie's opinion.
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Gordon is our recruiting coord. iirc
Yes. I think he's pretty decent.
Our staff isn't great, but isn't terrible. You don't go 10-2 with a terrible staff.
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Mike Stoops back to Oklahoma; Venzy home to K-State!
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I don't think our staff is terrible. I think our staff is good.
However, I operate a fundamental principle - KSU is a "promote from within" type of school.
In terms of HC material on this staff - I am concerned.
Now, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe KSU has the appeal and $$$ to draw in a solid coaching candidate from another institution. I don't think I'm wrong, though. I think we will promote a current coach - who has Snyder's blessing.
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Yeah, I like most of our coaches.
They all seem to know their football pretty well and are excellent game day coaches. Recruiting leaves a lot to be desired, though.
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not crazy about the idea but Dimel would be an ok HC
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not crazy about the idea but Dimel would be an ok HC
Gross
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I want Cosh gone as much as the next guy. But after seeing how our defense compared against other units against Big12 spread offenses, who should Old Saggy Bag go after if Cosh splits?
I dislike fast-break football with a passion but it's here to stay. How can we expect better results without top 20 talent (and it isn't coming to KSU no matter how much we wish), regardless of who the DC is?
Forgive the compelled respect observation here, but I think Mangino would do more with the TX leftovers than just about anyone out there. Same with Leavitt for FL leftovers. I'd prefer Leavitt so he could be HCIW. The probability on getting that scenario is about the same as me having a three-way with twin lingerie models. That means that Sean will probably be our next DC.
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not crazy about the idea but Dimel would be an ok HC
Yeah, I bet there are programs out there that would offer him a HC job...
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I want Cosh gone as much as the next guy. But after seeing how our defense compared against other units against Big12 spread offenses, who should Old Saggy Bag go after if Cosh splits?
I dislike fast-break football with a passion but it's here to stay. How can we expect better results without top 20 talent (and it isn't coming to KSU no matter how much we wish), regardless of who the DC is?
Forgive the compelled respect observation here, but I think Mangino would do more with the TX leftovers than just about anyone out there. Same with Leavitt for FL leftovers. I'd prefer Leavitt so he could be HCIW. The probability on getting that scenario is about the same as me having a three-way with twin lingerie models. That means that Sean will probably be our next DC.
If that happens, John Currie needs to be fired that very same day.
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I want Cosh gone as much as the next guy. But after seeing how our defense compared against other units against Big12 spread offenses, who should Old Saggy Bag go after if Cosh splits?
I dislike fast-break football with a passion but it's here to stay. How can we expect better results without top 20 talent (and it isn't coming to KSU no matter how much we wish), regardless of who the DC is?
Forgive the compelled respect observation here, but I think Mangino would do more with the TX leftovers than just about anyone out there. Same with Leavitt for FL leftovers. I'd prefer Leavitt so he could be HCIW. The probability on getting that scenario is about the same as me having a three-way with twin lingerie models. That means that Sean will probably be our next DC.
If that happens, John Currie needs to be fired that very same day.
Anyone who thinks that this is going to happen needs to be beaten with a plague-ridden rat, covered in pig crap, and then set on fire.
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cosh doesn't stick out to me as any worse than any of our other assistants.
Baby steps.
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What is with everyone's obsession with Dickey?
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What is with everyone's obsession with Dickey?
Flat top
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I don't know the history as well as some but would cosh leaving be snyder's first step towards actually terminating an AC?
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Ok. Seriously, Cosh should be fired if CCarolina doesn't hire him. Look who he's up against...
"So as of right now, there are five names going around for the head coaching position: Kerwin Bell (Jacksonville University Head Coach), Chris Cosh (Kansas St. Defensive Coordinator), Todd Fitch (South Florida Offensive Coordinator), Chuck Reedy (Goose Creek High School Head Coach), and Dale Steele (Campbell University Head Coach)."
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I wish Coastal Carolina would hire Sean. If he's successful, maybe it wouldn't be so depressing when OB tosses him the keys to our program.
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Shouldn't cosh be trying to figure out how to stop Ark's offense instead of going after a job at costal carolina :dunno:
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:flush:
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Ok. Seriously, Cosh should be fired if CCarolina doesn't hire him. Look who he's up against...
"So as of right now, there are five names going around for the head coaching position: Kerwin Bell (Jacksonville University Head Coach), Chris Cosh (Kansas St. Defensive Coordinator), Todd Fitch (South Florida Offensive Coordinator), Chuck Reedy (Goose Creek High School Head Coach), and Dale Steele (Campbell University Head Coach)."
OB was a high school head coach once upon a time. Just because a guy is coaching in high school doesn't mean he knows any less about college football. For all we know that guy was an All American at some level in his playing days.
Shouldn't cosh be trying to figure out how to stop Ark's offense instead of going after a job at costal carolina :dunno:
Not an issue, Cosh wouldn't know how to stop them anyways
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Sorry if repost: Anyone see whose shoes Cosh would have to fill?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7EChnZTJicw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7EChnZTJicw)
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What is with everyone's obsession with Dickey?
He got a little brown sugar.
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I want Cosh gone as much as the next guy. But after seeing how our defense compared against other units against Big12 spread offenses, who should Old Saggy Bag go after if Cosh splits?
I dislike fast-break football with a passion but it's here to stay. How can we expect better results without top 20 talent (and it isn't coming to KSU no matter how much we wish), regardless of who the DC is?
Forgive the compelled respect observation here, but I think Mangino would do more with the TX leftovers than just about anyone out there. Same with Leavitt for FL leftovers. I'd prefer Leavitt so he could be HCIW. The probability on getting that scenario is about the same as me having a three-way with twin lingerie models. That means that Sean will probably be our next DC.
If that happens, John Currie needs to be fired that very same day.
Anyone who thinks that this is going to happen needs to be beaten with a plague-ridden rat, covered in pig crap, and then set on fire.
Thinking it is not the same as wishing for it, moron.
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I want Cosh gone as much as the next guy. But after seeing how our defense compared against other units against Big12 spread offenses, who should Old Saggy Bag go after if Cosh splits?
I dislike fast-break football with a passion but it's here to stay. How can we expect better results without top 20 talent (and it isn't coming to KSU no matter how much we wish), regardless of who the DC is?
Forgive the compelled respect observation here, but I think Mangino would do more with the TX leftovers than just about anyone out there. Same with Leavitt for FL leftovers. I'd prefer Leavitt so he could be HCIW. The probability on getting that scenario is about the same as me having a three-way with twin lingerie models. That means that Sean will probably be our next DC.
If that happens, John Currie needs to be fired that very same day.
Anyone who thinks that this is going to happen needs to be beaten with a plague-ridden rat, covered in pig crap, and then set on fire.
Thinking it is not the same as wishing for it, moron.
Let me clarify my previous statement. Anyone who believes that Sean Snyder will ever hold a position above special teams coordinator at Kansas State University is such an unbelievable Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that their death would be the world's gain. Furthermore they should be killed in such a way as to deter anyone from this line of thinking for all time. Make sense? Hoping for it at least can be attributed to a person being mentally ill.
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I don't think our staff is terrible. I think our staff is good.
However, I operate a fundamental principle - KSU is a "promote from within" type of school.
In terms of HC material on this staff - I am concerned.
Now, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe KSU has the appeal and $$$ to draw in a solid coaching candidate from another institution. I don't think I'm wrong, though. I think we will promote a current coach - who has Snyder's blessing.
Those are good points. And I agree, I don't see a viable head coach for Kansas State on the current staff.
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I want Cosh gone as much as the next guy. But after seeing how our defense compared against other units against Big12 spread offenses, who should Old Saggy Bag go after if Cosh splits?
I dislike fast-break football with a passion but it's here to stay. How can we expect better results without top 20 talent (and it isn't coming to KSU no matter how much we wish), regardless of who the DC is?
Forgive the compelled respect observation here, but I think Mangino would do more with the TX leftovers than just about anyone out there. Same with Leavitt for FL leftovers. I'd prefer Leavitt so he could be HCIW. The probability on getting that scenario is about the same as me having a three-way with twin lingerie models. That means that Sean will probably be our next DC.
If that happens, John Currie needs to be fired that very same day.
Anyone who thinks that this is going to happen needs to be beaten with a plague-ridden rat, covered in pig crap, and then set on fire.
Thinking it is not the same as wishing for it, moron.
Let me clarify my previous statement. Anyone who believes that Sean Snyder will ever hold a position above special teams coordinator at Kansas State University is such an unbelievable Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that their death would be the world's gain. Furthermore they should be killed in such a way as to deter anyone from this line of thinking for all time. Make sense?
This describes a vast majority of regular posters on this board. Just FYI.
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cosh doesn't stick out to me as any worse than any of our other assistants.
WOW! Where was that statement last year. :horrorsurprise:
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Anyone who believes that Sean Snyder will ever hold a position above special teams coordinator at Kansas State University is such an unbelievable Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that their death would be the world's gain.
What is crazier? Ron Prince being hired as HC or Sean Snyder being promoted to HC? Is it rational that Jim Woolridge was our head basketball coach for 6 years without ever going to the post-season?
We can all agree on one thing - the KSU AD does not have a history of making sound, rational decisions.
So, with this as our background - let's ask the question: would it be surprising if Sean Snyder were promoted to Head Coach after Bill retires?
Rational? no. Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)? yes. Realistic Possibility? absolutely.
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I want Cosh gone as much as the next guy. But after seeing how our defense compared against other units against Big12 spread offenses, who should Old Saggy Bag go after if Cosh splits?
I dislike fast-break football with a passion but it's here to stay. How can we expect better results without top 20 talent (and it isn't coming to KSU no matter how much we wish), regardless of who the DC is?
Forgive the compelled respect observation here, but I think Mangino would do more with the TX leftovers than just about anyone out there. Same with Leavitt for FL leftovers. I'd prefer Leavitt so he could be HCIW. The probability on getting that scenario is about the same as me having a three-way with twin lingerie models. That means that Sean will probably be our next DC.
If that happens, John Currie needs to be fired that very same day.
Anyone who thinks that this is going to happen needs to be beaten with a plague-ridden rat, covered in pig crap, and then set on fire.
This is not a pigaggie thread. :gocho:
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Just because a guy is coaching in high school doesn't mean he knows any less about college football. For all we know that guy was an All American at some level in his playing days.
A lot of head coaches in the college ranks were highschool coaches at some point in their career. For the vast majority, they probably didn't jump straight from highschool into a college head coaching gig.
I imagine there's a slight difference between highschool and college football. I mean, I'm no Bear Bryant, but...
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Just because a guy is coaching in high school doesn't mean he knows any less about college football. For all we know that guy was an All American at some level in his playing days.
A lot of head coaches in the college ranks were highschool coaches at some point in their career. For the vast majority, they probably didn't jump straight from highschool into a college head coaching gig.
I imagine there's a slight difference between highschool and college football. I mean, I'm no Bear Bryant, but...
Good point, B. B. Belvis. Most are brought in as an assistant or intern. Wait, didn't KU's Weis get an high school coach who thinks he'll be running the show. :thumbsup:
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cosh doesn't stick out to me as any worse than any of our other assistants.
WOW! Where was that statement last year. :horrorsurprise:
I've always said that. Where the eff were you last year?
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cosh doesn't stick out to me as any worse than any of our other assistants.
WOW! Where was that statement last year. :horrorsurprise:
I've always said that. Where the eff were you last year?
Guess I didn't see it stated this clearly. I was to busy watching all the banners flying around; all the while thinking VK's statement about X's & O's without the Jimmys and Joes might have some validity. :rolleyes:
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Cosh is a bad d-coordinator.
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Cosh is a bad d-coordinator.
Cosh is a mid-level d-coordinator at most of the teams he's coached. Not great, but then again, not bad.
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Jesus Christ. I can't believe anyone would make the statement that cosh is not a bad DC - Really? You can talk about the jimmies & joes all you want, but there were teams like Wyoming & North Dakota State that had better defenses than we did last year. Are you telling me that KSU can't scrape together better walk on's than Wyoming can recruit? The success of this years d is placed solely on having better players & cosh had nothing to do with that. An average D-Cord would have had a statistically better D this year & may have won the OSU game for us. Even IF this years D didn't cost KSU any games - how long before they do lose one?
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Cosh is a bad d-coordinator.
Cosh is a mid-level d-coordinator at most of the teams he's coached. Not great, but then again, not bad.
He is very bad.
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Cosh is a bad d-coordinator.
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Jesus Christ. I can't believe anyone would make the statement that cosh is not a bad DC - Really? You can talk about the jimmies & joes all you want, but there were teams like Wyoming & North Dakota State that had better defenses than we did last year. Are you telling me that KSU can't scrape together better walk on's than Wyoming can recruit? The success of this years d is placed solely on having better players & cosh had nothing to do with that. An average D-Cord would have had a statistically better D this year & may have won the OSU game for us. Even IF this years D didn't cost KSU any games - how long before they do lose one?
I think you're so anxious to see him fail that you can't see he is a middle of the road DC, and not a failure. The obvious truth is we had a bunch of Prince recuits with very little talent. That's why most of them that are still here, are sitting on the bench and not getting much playing time.
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Jesus Christ. I can't believe anyone would make the statement that cosh is not a bad DC - Really? You can talk about the jimmies & joes all you want, but there were teams like Wyoming & North Dakota State that had better defenses than we did last year. Are you telling me that KSU can't scrape together better walk on's than Wyoming can recruit? The success of this years d is placed solely on having better players & cosh had nothing to do with that. An average D-Cord would have had a statistically better D this year & may have won the OSU game for us. Even IF this years D didn't cost KSU any games - how long before they do lose one?
An argument could be made that our defense was bad due in part to the offenses we faced in the Big 12. What can't be argued though is how we are now in the record books of nearly every team we've faced in the last two seasons. That's including 270 yards to the North Texas RB. Dunbar is good, but it was still a Sun Belt team and O-Line. I would guess Cosh is sub-50th percentile (schemes, coaching, and recruiting), and we should strive for better.
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Cosh would be a great head coach...
somewhere else
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Jesus Christ. I can't believe anyone would make the statement that cosh is not a bad DC - Really? You can talk about the jimmies & joes all you want, but there were teams like Wyoming & North Dakota State that had better defenses than we did last year. Are you telling me that KSU can't scrape together better walk on's than Wyoming can recruit? The success of this years d is placed solely on having better players & cosh had nothing to do with that. An average D-Cord would have had a statistically better D this year & may have won the OSU game for us. Even IF this years D didn't cost KSU any games - how long before they do lose one?
An argument could be made that our defense was bad due in part to the offenses we faced in the Big 12. What can't be argued though is how we are now in the record books of nearly every team we've faced in the last two seasons. That's including 270 yards to the North Texas RB. Dunbar is good, but it was still a Sun Belt team and O-Line. I would guess Cosh is sub-50th percentile (schemes, coaching, and recruiting), and we should strive for better.
This is an excellent point, last year it was making any and all RBs look like All Americans, this year it's making all the recievers look like Heisman candidates... it's a ridiculous and very stupid argument to say that Cosh is anything but a horrible DC. We have better talent, THAT is the reason we are a better defense.
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Jesus Christ. I can't believe anyone would make the statement that cosh is not a bad DC - Really? You can talk about the jimmies & joes all you want, but there were teams like Wyoming & North Dakota State that had better defenses than we did last year. Are you telling me that KSU can't scrape together better walk on's than Wyoming can recruit? The success of this years d is placed solely on having better players & cosh had nothing to do with that. An average D-Cord would have had a statistically better D this year & may have won the OSU game for us. Even IF this years D didn't cost KSU any games - how long before they do lose one?
An argument could be made that our defense was bad due in part to the offenses we faced in the Big 12. What can't be argued though is how we are now in the record books of nearly every team we've faced in the last two seasons. That's including 270 yards to the North Texas RB. Dunbar is good, but it was still a Sun Belt team and O-Line. I would guess Cosh is sub-50th percentile (schemes, coaching, and recruiting), and we should strive for better.
This is an excellent point, last year it was making any and all RBs look like All Americans, this year it's making all the recievers look like Heisman candidates... it's a ridiculous and very stupid argument to say that Cosh is anything but a horrible DC. We have better talent, THAT is the reason we are a better defense.
Gota having coaching to get the best from talent. :dunno:
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Anyone who believes that Sean Snyder will ever hold a position above special teams coordinator at Kansas State University is such an unbelievable Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that their death would be the world's gain.
Prior to this past offseaon, most people were saying that Sean would never have any sort of coaching position at EMAW U, period.
And yet, here we are....
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christ, we're 10-2. our defense won us some games and lost us some games this year. every team in the big 12 has had some shitty defensive games this year.
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The only reason our defense wasn't last in the NCAA rankings is because our offense controlled most games and limited possessions by our opponents. I would pop the bubbly if Cosh was gone.
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The only reason our defense wasn't last in the NCAA rankings is because our offense controlled most games and limited possessions by our opponents. I would pop the bubbly if Cosh was gone.
Not completely. Points per play gives a better look at how effective your defense is at not giving up points, and K-State was just below average. The average in FBS football was .38 points per play and we gave up .39 and finished #72 nationally. Then you can look at yards per play and K-State finished giving up 5.66 yards per play to finish #75 and the average was 5.48. Average yards given up per rush was 3.95, good for #55 nationally. However, K-State was very good at forcing turnovers, finishing at .031 TOs forced per play, good for #26 nationally.
The defense was still not good, but it did have the ability to make some plays, and it also made some plays when the game was on the line. I agree with the thought that Cosh is an average/below average coordinator at the BCS level.
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The only reason our defense wasn't last in the NCAA rankings is because our offense controlled most games and limited possessions by our opponents. I would pop the bubbly if Cosh was gone.
Not completely. Points per play gives a better look at how effective your defense is at not giving up points, and K-State was just below average. The average in FBS football was .38 points per play and we gave up .39 and finished #72 nationally. Then you can look at yards per play and K-State finished giving up 5.66 yards per play to finish #75 and the average was 5.48. Average yards given up per rush was 3.95, good for #55 nationally. However, K-State was very good at forcing turnovers, finishing at .031 TOs forced per play, good for #26 nationally.
The defense was still not good, but it did have the ability to make some plays, and it also made some plays when the game was on the line. I agree with the thought that Cosh is an average/below average coordinator at the BCS level.
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Best of luck to Chris Cosh at Coastal Carolina. I hope he lands that gig.
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not crazy about the idea but Dimel would be an ok HC
Gross
This is only gross because he's a dude named Dana.
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The only reason our defense wasn't last in the NCAA rankings is because our offense controlled most games and limited possessions by our opponents. I would pop the bubbly if Cosh was gone.
Not completely. Points per play gives a better look at how effective your defense is at not giving up points, and K-State was just below average. The average in FBS football was .38 points per play and we gave up .39 and finished #72 nationally. Then you can look at yards per play and K-State finished giving up 5.66 yards per play to finish #75 and the average was 5.48. Average yards given up per rush was 3.95, good for #55 nationally. However, K-State was very good at forcing turnovers, finishing at .031 TOs forced per play, good for #26 nationally.
The defense was still not good, but it did have the ability to make some plays, and it also made some plays when the game was on the line. I agree with the thought that Cosh is an average/below average coordinator at the BCS level.
I sure you, Steve Dave, and I are saying the same thing. He's basically a middle of the road DC... not great and not terrible. :thumbsup:
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who realistically walks thru the door if cosh leaves? Not going to be mike stoops, not going to be leavitt, not going to be venzy, I mean best case scenario would be vic 2.0 which is still unlikely.
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who realistically walks thru the door if cosh leaves? Not going to be mike stoops, not going to be leavitt, not going to be venzy, I mean best case scenario would be vic 2.0 which is still unlikely.
There is a Beliema (sp?) 2.0 out there and we sure won't find him with Cosh around
#cc4cchc
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I sure you, Steve Dave, and I are saying the same thing. He's basically a middle of the road DC... not great and not terrible. :thumbsup:
Definitely, I just like numbers and stuff.
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If Cosh doesn't get this position, there'a always a chance he fills up a DC spot for one of the new coaching hires at another school. Illinois is looking for a new DC, apparently found one and is waiting for the bowl season to end to say anything. That's just one position that I know of.
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christ, we're 10-2. our defense won us some games and lost us some games this year. every team in the big 12 has had some shitty defensive games this year.
Really, our defense only lost us one game. OU. That was a debacle.
Defense won us the Miami, Baylor, Tech games.
Pretty meh defense, that makes big plays in big moments. Cosh is pretty average. Pretty weak recruiter.
Comparing our numbers to Wyoming and north Dakota ? Seriously Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Put those teams in the BIg XII, then compare stats. Jezuscrist.
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Isu got an effing stop when it counted against osu
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Isu got an effing stop when it counted against osu
Then I guess ISU has a better defense than KSU. Oh wait, no.
Ps, ISU didn't get a stop against us when it counted. Boom. Roasted.
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who realistically walks thru the door if cosh leaves? Not going to be mike stoops, not going to be leavitt, not going to be venzy, I mean best case scenario would be vic 2.0 which is still unlikely.
This is the wrong mindset. We have let the uggo girl move in and mind eff us into believing that she is the best we can do so we might as well get used to it. We are better than this bro.
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who realistically walks thru the door if cosh leaves? Not going to be mike stoops, not going to be leavitt, not going to be venzy, I mean best case scenario would be vic 2.0 which is still unlikely.
This is the wrong mindset. We have let the uggo girl move in and mind eff us into believing that she is the best we can do so we might as well get used to it. We are better than this bro.
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It isn't a mindset it is reality. No one worth a damn is going to commit to coaching on a staff with an old man that wants 100 hour work weeks and is grooming his son for the job.
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who realistically walks thru the door if cosh leaves? Not going to be mike stoops, not going to be leavitt, not going to be venzy, I mean best case scenario would be vic 2.0 which is still unlikely.
This is the wrong mindset. We have let the uggo girl move in and mind eff us into believing that she is the best we can do so we might as well get used to it. We are better than this bro.
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CNS is right. Great analogy.
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who realistically walks thru the door if cosh leaves? Not going to be mike stoops, not going to be leavitt, not going to be venzy, I mean best case scenario would be vic 2.0 which is still unlikely.
This is the wrong mindset. We have let the uggo girl move in and mind eff us into believing that she is the best we can do so we might as well get used to it. We are better than this bro.
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It isn't a mindset it is reality. No one worth a damn is going to commit to coaching on a staff with an old man that wants 100 hour work weeks and is grooming his son for the job.
:barf:
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Isu got an effing stop when it counted against osu
Then I guess ISU has a better defense than KSU. Oh wait, no.
Ps, ISU didn't get a stop against us when it counted. Boom. Roasted.
ISU does have a better defense than us. . .
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who realistically walks thru the door if cosh leaves? Not going to be mike stoops, not going to be leavitt, not going to be venzy, I mean best case scenario would be vic 2.0 which is still unlikely.
This is the wrong mindset. We have let the uggo girl move in and mind eff us into believing that she is the best we can do so we might as well get used to it. We are better than this bro.
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It isn't a mindset it is reality. No one worth a damn is going to commit to coaching on a staff with an old man that wants 100 hour work weeks and is grooming his son for the job.
Just saying, there are hot chicks out there that are plenty willing to do plenty of dirty things to people that get them what they want. I mean, we are all kidding ourselves if we can't accept that all FB assistant coaches are nothing more than whores anyway.
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Hawk has defensive coordinator experience at Sonoma State. I say we go get him.
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christ, we're 10-2. our defense won us some games and lost us some games this year. every team in the big 12 has had some shitty defensive games this year.
Really, our defense only lost us one game. OU. That was a debacle.
Defense won us the Miami, Baylor, Tech games.
Pretty meh defense, that makes big plays in big moments. Cosh is pretty average. Pretty weak recruiter.
Comparing our numbers to Wyoming and north Dakota ? Seriously Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Put those teams in the BIg XII, then compare stats. Jezuscrist.
Did you not watch the OSU game? Just because Klein should have run instead of throw on the last play doesn't mean the D can't be blamed for not getting a stop 1 of the 3 times OSU got in the endzones in the 4th qtr. Anytime you let anyone score over 50 points - especially when your offense holds the ball for over 40 minutes - your D can take blame in that.
and I'll compare Cosh's defenses to anyone that was statistically better than his D during any of his tenures - sorry I picked two teams in non-existant conferences out of the combined 250 possible teams that have had a better D than Coshes in the last 3 years.
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Look, I'm not a cosh fan. Would love to see him go. I just think it's unfair to say he's the worst defensive coordinator in America because Montana gave up fewer points to South Dakota Tech than we gave up to Oklahoma State.
Last I looked, Oklahoma State has a mildly potent offense. Dropped 44 on OU.
What's that old saying? Apples to oranges?
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I am going to base my entire opinion of Cosh on how they stop Arky.
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I am going to base my entire opinion of Cosh on how they stop Arky.
This seems like pretty much the only fair way to judge him. I mean, a month to prepare?
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Look, I'm not a cosh fan. Would love to see him go. I just think it's unfair to say he's the worst defensive coordinator in America because Montana gave up fewer points to South Dakota Tech than we gave up to Oklahoma State.
Last I looked, Oklahoma State has a mildly potent offense. Dropped 44 on OU.
What's that old saying? Apples to oranges?
K-state gave up 52 points to OSU, who had the ball a little over 19 minutes. Thats a crap sandwich. Compare a crap sandwich to oranges or whatever you want but its still a crap sandwich
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I am going to base my entire opinion of Cosh on how they stop Arky.
This seems like pretty much the only fair way to judge him. I mean, a month to prepare?
Weather we win or not, the general feeling is Cosh needs to go. Which I agree completely, because I think a team that finishes the season in the top 10 deserves better. :crossfingers:
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Look, I'm not a cosh fan. Would love to see him go. I just think it's unfair to say he's the worst defensive coordinator in America because Montana gave up fewer points to South Dakota Tech than we gave up to Oklahoma State.
Last I looked, Oklahoma State has a mildly potent offense. Dropped 44 on OU.
What's that old saying? Apples to oranges?
Where the did I say he was the worst? People are saying he's average & he's not. He's well below average & he has an resume at several schools to prove it.
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Jesus Christ. I can't believe anyone would make the statement that cosh is not a bad DC - Really? You can talk about the jimmies & joes all you want, but there were teams like Wyoming & North Dakota State that had better defenses than we did last year. Are you telling me that KSU can't scrape together better walk on's than Wyoming can recruit? The success of this years d is placed solely on having better players & cosh had nothing to do with that. An average D-Cord would have had a statistically better D this year & may have won the OSU game for us. Even IF this years D didn't cost KSU any games - how long before they do lose one?
An argument could be made that our defense was bad due in part to the offenses we faced in the Big 12. What can't be argued though is how we are now in the record books of nearly every team we've faced in the last two seasons. That's including 270 yards to the North Texas RB. Dunbar is good, but it was still a Sun Belt team and O-Line. I would guess Cosh is sub-50th percentile (schemes, coaching, and recruiting), and we should strive for better.
This is an excellent point, last year it was making any and all RBs look like All Americans, this year it's making all the recievers look like Heisman candidates... it's a ridiculous and very stupid argument to say that Cosh is anything but a horrible DC. We have better talent, THAT is the reason we are a better defense.
Gota having coaching to get the best from talent. :dunno:
Incorrect
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Kinda dumb to play the jimmies and joes card while also denying Cosh any credit for having better players this year. AB may have transferred solely because of Bill but I would have to assume that the DC had some part in bringing in guys like Malone, Walker, Kibble, Williams, Davis, etc.
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Kinda dumb to play the jimmies and joes card while also denying Cosh any credit for having better players this year. AB may have transferred solely because of Bill but I would have to assume that the DC had some part in bringing in guys like Malone, Walker, Kibble, Williams, Davis, etc.
I agree with this. I'm also not going to pretend that we have anything better than a below-average defense this year, or that Cosh will ever be able to field a better unit than he did this year.
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Kinda dumb to play the jimmies and joes card while also denying Cosh any credit for having better players this year. AB may have transferred solely because of Bill but I would have to assume that the DC had some part in bringing in guys like Malone, Walker, Kibble, Williams, Davis, etc.
Jimmies and Joes is a cause not an excuse. We were ranked significantly higher with the guy who played that card than we were the year he left.
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Jesus Christ. I can't believe anyone would make the statement that cosh is not a bad DC - Really? You can talk about the jimmies & joes all you want, but there were teams like Wyoming & North Dakota State that had better defenses than we did last year. Are you telling me that KSU can't scrape together better walk on's than Wyoming can recruit? The success of this years d is placed solely on having better players & cosh had nothing to do with that. An average D-Cord would have had a statistically better D this year & may have won the OSU game for us. Even IF this years D didn't cost KSU any games - how long before they do lose one?
An argument could be made that our defense was bad due in part to the offenses we faced in the Big 12. What can't be argued though is how we are now in the record books of nearly every team we've faced in the last two seasons. That's including 270 yards to the North Texas RB. Dunbar is good, but it was still a Sun Belt team and O-Line. I would guess Cosh is sub-50th percentile (schemes, coaching, and recruiting), and we should strive for better.
This is an excellent point, last year it was making any and all RBs look like All Americans, this year it's making all the recievers look like Heisman candidates... it's a ridiculous and very stupid argument to say that Cosh is anything but a horrible DC. We have better talent, THAT is the reason we are a better defense.
Gota having coaching to get the best from talent. :dunno:
Incorrect
Weis had talent, where did that get him... :lol:
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Kinda dumb to play the jimmies and joes card while also denying Cosh any credit for having better players this year. AB may have transferred solely because of Bill but I would have to assume that the DC had some part in bringing in guys like Malone, Walker, Kibble, Williams, Davis, etc.
If you're saying that Cosh has better players now than VK had, its a shame is defense is so much worse
VK was 56 in total D at KSU, we are 88 this year. VK was 55 in opponent ppg at KSU, we are 72 this year.
Meanwhile, VKs Illinois defenses were top 30 ppg and top 10 total d this year
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The avg overall defense ranking for the conference is 83.2. There is one Big team ranked in the top 60, UT @ #14. I guess it's possible that the other nine teams all have shitty recruiters and terrible DCs but it's probably more likely that the insane offenses we have to face over the 9 game schedule is a major factor. Give Cosh some credit for eff's sake. We were rough ridin' atrocious last year. We brought in some solid new guys and now we're an average defense in the best offensive BCS conference. Oh, and we're 10-2. What's the best record for a VK coached defense over the past few years? How many of his HCs reaped the benefits of his jimmies and joes and is currently still employed?
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jt . . . from 2009 to 2010 did the defense have a significant drop off? Simple question, try a yes/no answer . . . for a change.
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The avg overall defense ranking for the conference is 83.2. There is one Big team ranked in the top 60, UT @ #14. I guess it's possible that the other nine teams all have shitty recruiters and terrible DCs but it's probably more likely that the insane offenses we have to face over the 9 game schedule is a major factor. Give Cosh some credit for eff's sake. We were rough ridin' atrocious last year. We brought in some solid new guys and now we're an average defense in the best offensive BCS conference. Oh, and we're 10-2. What's the best record for a VK coached defense over the past few years? How many of his HCs reaped the benefits of his jimmies and joes and is currently still employed?
I dont think Cosh is the devil, but I would certainly like to see him leave and a better D-Coord come in. And VK is definitely to blame for his team's 86th ranked offense, 105th ranked scoring offense. Definitely his fault the coach got fired
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I can't believe that Coshes shiftiness is even up for debate. W/o about 3 new players, this defense is just as crappy as last year.
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The avg overall defense ranking for the conference is 83.2. There is one Big team ranked in the top 60, UT @ #14. I guess it's possible that the other nine teams all have shitty recruiters and terrible DCs but it's probably more likely that the insane offenses we have to face over the 9 game schedule is a major factor. Give Cosh some credit for eff's sake. We were rough ridin' atrocious last year. We brought in some solid new guys and now we're an average defense in the best offensive BCS conference. Oh, and we're 10-2. What's the best record for a VK coached defense over the past few years? How many of his HCs reaped the benefits of his jimmies and joes and is currently still employed?
I dont think Cosh is the devil, but I would certainly like to see him leave and a better D-Coord come in. And VK is definitely to blame for his team's 86th ranked offense, 105th ranked scoring offense. Definitely his fault the coach got fired
I think we can all agree VK is better than CC. That still doesn't change the fact CC proved his defensive plays are more effective with better players this year. He doesn't have the gems that other teams have. Also, VK's total defense this year is ranked 6th in the nation. Hopefully Cosh gets the job; just hope we get someone better.
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The avg overall defense ranking for the conference is 83.2. There is one Big team ranked in the top 60, UT @ #14. I guess it's possible that the other nine teams all have shitty recruiters and terrible DCs but it's probably more likely that the insane offenses we have to face over the 9 game schedule is a major factor. Give Cosh some credit for eff's sake. We were rough ridin' atrocious last year. We brought in some solid new guys and now we're an average defense in the best offensive BCS conference. Oh, and we're 10-2. What's the best record for a VK coached defense over the past few years? How many of his HCs reaped the benefits of his jimmies and joes and is currently still employed?
I dont think Cosh is the devil, but I would certainly like to see him leave and a better D-Coord come in. And VK is definitely to blame for his team's 86th ranked offense, 105th ranked scoring offense. Definitely his fault the coach got fired
I think we can all agree VK is better than CC. That still doesn't change the fact CC proved his defensive plays are more effective with better players this year. He doesn't have the gems that other teams have. Also, VK's total defense this year is ranked 6th in the nation. Hopefully Cosh gets the job; just hope we get someone better.
Just seen this posted on TOB...
Whether you think Cosh is a good coach or not, the fact is that he's our DC because he's settling. He can't get a better job, that's why he's here. If he sucks next year, we're not happy. If he does well, he'll leave. I rather him leave now.
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Dax, was there a significant improvement in defense from '10 to '11? A simple yes or no would suffice.
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The avg overall defense ranking for the conference is 83.2. There is one Big team ranked in the top 60, UT @ #14. I guess it's possible that the other nine teams all have shitty recruiters and terrible DCs but it's probably more likely that the insane offenses we have to face over the 9 game schedule is a major factor. Give Cosh some credit for eff's sake. We were rough ridin' atrocious last year. We brought in some solid new guys and now we're an average defense in the best offensive BCS conference. Oh, and we're 10-2. What's the best record for a VK coached defense over the past few years? How many of his HCs reaped the benefits of his jimmies and joes and is currently still employed?
I dont think Cosh is the devil, but I would certainly like to see him leave and a better D-Coord come in. And VK is definitely to blame for his team's 86th ranked offense, 105th ranked scoring offense. Definitely his fault the coach got fired
I think we can all agree VK is better than CC. That still doesn't change the fact CC proved his defensive plays are more effective with better players this year. He doesn't have the gems that other teams have. Also, VK's total defense this year is ranked 6th in the nation. Hopefully Cosh gets the job; just hope we get someone better.
Just seen this posted on TOB...
Whether you think Cosh is a good coach or not, the fact is that he's our DC because he's settling. He can't get a better job, that's why he's here. If he sucks next year, we're not happy. If he does well, he'll leave. I rather him leave now.
He'll suck again and he will stay, because OBz falls in love with his assistants and will fire NOBODY!!!
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I can't believe that Coshes shiftiness is even up for debate. W/o about 3 new players, this defense is just as crappy as last year.
Im already nervous about losing Garrett and potentially Malone.
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Vic Koenning as of this weekend, is calling uncommitted recruits on behalf of North Carolina. Safe to say he's Carolina's next D-coordinator
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Seems like that would be some sort of (yet another) violation for UNC.
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I can't believe that Coshes shiftiness is even up for debate. W/o about 3 new players, this defense is just as crappy as last year.
Im already nervous about losing Garrett and potentially Malone.
I think Malone is safe. I don't think he's quite got the measurables the NFL is looking for. He needs another season of solid production.
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Dax, was there a significant improvement in defense from '10 to '11? A simple yes or no would suffice.
Improvement? yes.
Significant? no
Now you try to answer my question jtuck.
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Seems like a juco transfer with only 1 season of D1 experience would need an incredible season to be drafted in the first few rounds. Unless Malone is cool with being a late round guy he should probably return (and hopefully have another solid season) and see if he's able to move up the board.
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I can't believe that Coshes shiftiness is even up for debate. W/o about 3 new players, this defense is just as crappy as last year.
Im already nervous about losing Garrett and potentially Malone.
I think Malone is safe. I don't think he's quite got the measurables the NFL is looking for. He needs another season of solid production.
This is what they said about josh moore :ohno:
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I can't believe that Coshes shiftiness is even up for debate. W/o about 3 new players, this defense is just as crappy as last year.
Im already nervous about losing Garrett and potentially Malone.
I think Malone is safe. I don't think he's quite got the measurables the NFL is looking for. He needs another season of solid production.
This is what they said about josh moore :ohno:
he should be a example of why not to leave early
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I can't believe that Coshes shiftiness is even up for debate. W/o about 3 new players, this defense is just as crappy as last year.
Im already nervous about losing Garrett and potentially Malone.
I think Malone is safe. I don't think he's quite got the measurables the NFL is looking for. He needs another season of solid production.
This is what they said about josh moore :ohno:
Not to brag, but I said Moore would leave after that year and get drafted in July.
Just sayin'. I think we're good with Malone.
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Malone :crossfingers:
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One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr. Granted, that was several wks ago.
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One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr. Granted, that was several wks ago.
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I thought that was Sams.
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One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr. Granted, that was several wks ago.
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I thought that was Sams.
it was
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If Malone goes to the NFL, would he claim to be from K-State during pre-game introductions to the players? :ohno:
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One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr. Granted, that was several wks ago.
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I thought that was Sams.
Good mem.
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One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr. Granted, that was several wks ago.
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I thought that was Sams.
I remember that too.....but I thought he was being sarcastic.. :confused:
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Kinda dumb to play the jimmies and joes card while also denying Cosh any credit for having better players this year. AB may have transferred solely because of Bill but I would have to assume that the DC had some part in bringing in guys like Malone, Walker, Kibble, Williams, Davis, etc.
If you're saying that Cosh has better players now than VK had, its a shame is defense is so much worse
VK was 56 in total D at KSU, we are 88 this year. VK was 55 in opponent ppg at KSU, we are 72 this year.
Meanwhile, VKs Illinois defenses were top 30 ppg and top 10 total d this year
we didn't round robin with VK and Big Ten offenses are :facepalm:
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One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr. Granted, that was several wks ago.
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I thought that was Sams.
I remember that too.....but I thought he was being sarcastic.. :confused:
Maybe. If so, I didn't pick up on it. That said, that is one reason I love twitter. Perfectly acceptable to be very ADHD and not read much into it.
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One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr. Granted, that was several wks ago.
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I thought that was Sams.
I remember that too.....but I thought he was being sarcastic.. :confused:
Maybe. If so, I didn't pick up on it. That said, that is one reason I love twitter. Perfectly acceptable to be very ADHD and not read much into it.
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I think malone also tweeted something about "enjoy me while i'm here" :dunno:
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How many NFL defenses run man cover 2 as a base? I ask because it seems like Nigel and the Cats have benefited by having safety help so he's always jumping routes.
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Coastal Carolina is really taking their sweet ass time.
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See ya, Nigel. Good luck.
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Manteca is Spanish for lard. :popcorn:
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Apparently Nigel hasn't heard that Johnny Kaw's has raves.
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How many NFL defenses run man cover 2 as a base? I ask because it seems like Nigel and the Cats have benefited by having safety help so he's always jumping routes.
Tampa 2?
Similarities to the cover 2 i would assume, except for the middle linebacker drops in a mid-zone.
Seems like the bears, lions, chiefs, colts, vikings and bills run a form of the cover two, but idk for sure :dunno:
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Middle LB drop is Tampa 2.
not sure that too many teams base up their coverage.
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Middle LB drop is Tampa 2.
not sure that too many teams base up their coverage.
Arthur was usually matched up with a crossing pattern, roaming the middle of the field, not as deep of a zone as what you drop to in a tampa 2.
Tampa 2 is more or less a cover 2 d, lets your guys play the football (i.e. nigel jumping routes)
The reason that nigel could be effective in the league is his ability to lock up the other teams best receiver.
If you take away the deep ball like you would in a tampa 2 with the safeties and let your corners play more aggressive you would think he could do the same things that he has done this year (albeit against a much higher caliber of receiver)
The Tampa 2 (cover 2) and all of its variatons aren't going anywhere in the nil for a while.
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I find that hard to believe.
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main difference between tampa 2 and cover 2 is the mike lb,
tampa 2 takes away the weakness of the cover 2, the middle of the field
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as of december 14th his facebook hints to him coming back :dunno:
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@nigelmalone24 8 Dec - Enjoy me while you can
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@nigelmalone24 8 Dec - But its good this is a buisness trip i came out here to play football
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I don't know what manteca is, but that hurts. :cry:
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@nigelmalone24 8 Dec - But its good this is a buisness trip i came out here to play football
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as of december 14th his facebook hints to him coming back :dunno:
yeah.
Nigel Malone:
thanks ms. brown hopefully 1st team next year and a bcs game maybe natty
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The decision is later today!
http://www.thesunnews.com/2011/12/19/2558769/news-conference-planned-concerning.html (http://www.thesunnews.com/2011/12/19/2558769/news-conference-planned-concerning.html)
Monday, Dec. 19, 2011
Coastal Carolina to announce new football coach at Tuesday press conference
Coastal Carolina University has called a news conference for 11 a.m. Tuesday on campus to announce the hiring of a new head football coach.The announcement will come 11 days after CCU relieved David Bennett of his coaching duties after nine seasons, a decision that stirred strong reaction in the community and from former Chanticleer players despite the team’s 29-28 record over the last five seasons. Bennett was five seasons through a 10-year contract.Associate athletic director for media relations Mike Cawood would neither confirm nor deny a rumored candidate for the position Monday night, and several Board of Trustees members said they either hadn’t heard the news yet or declined to confirm the identity of the coach when reached by phone. Calls to other university officials were not returned.Bennett was the only head coach the program has had since its debut season in 2003. He was 63-39 overall in his tenure with the Chants.
BIG day for Coastal Carolina fans, even bigger day for Kansas State fans! Come on CCU, please take Cosh away from us. :pray: :crossfingers:
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http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Coach=2131&Team=30&Sport=1&Year=2012 (http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Coach=2131&Team=30&Sport=1&Year=2012)
:drool: :love:
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Speculation over. CCU hired the former CEO of TD Ameritrade. And no, that's not a joke.
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Dunno what you guys are so worked up about. Sounds like Nigel just doesn't think that Manhattan is a very fun place. I mean, the guy still prob hasn't shaken off all the smug from his stay in San Fran. Sounds like he just wants to go and hang out in a "hip" city for awhile. Hurts my feelings though. I mean, I always thought that Manhattan was the bee's knees.
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Speculation over. CCU hired the former CEO of TD Ameritrade. And no, that's not a joke.
Joe Moglia? Did he bail on the Omaha Nighthawks after realizing signing Eric Crouch was a bad idea? Or is the UFL now officially defunct?
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Don't worry guys, I'll answer my own question...
http://uflaccess.com/joe-moglia-to-coach-at-coastal-carolina/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=joe-moglia-to-coach-at-coastal-carolina
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we were so close. :curse:
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We may still have a chance. I asked Dscott about this on twitter last night and he replied that Cosh was also interviewing at Western Carolina.
:pray:
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We may still have a chance. I asked Dscott about this on twitter last night and he replied that Cosh was also interviewing at Western Carolina.
:pray:
:pray:
Is there an Eastern Carolina?
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Speculation over. CCU hired the former CEO of TD Ameritrade. And no, that's not a joke.
The guy that owns the Cubs and made a failed Senate run in Nebraska?
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We may still have a chance. I asked Dscott about this on twitter last night and he replied that Cosh was also interviewing at Western Carolina.
:pray:
:pray:
Is there an Eastern Carolina?
yes but there actually a legit program.
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Carolina has some solid names for their mascots: Tarheels, Chanticleers, Catamounts, Wolfpack (1 word), Gamecocks
And then there's Clemson. :dubious:
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Carolina has some solid names for their mascots: Tarheels, Chanticleers, Catamounts, Wolfpack (1 word), Gamecocks
And then there's Clemson. :dubious:
Blue Devils, Demon Deacons. . .
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ECU Pirates.
Appalachian State Mountaineers. :dunno:
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We may still have a chance. I asked Dscott about this on twitter last night and he replied that Cosh was also interviewing at Western Carolina.
:pray:
:pray:
Is there an Eastern Carolina?
yes but there actually a legit program.
Are there any horrible Carolina schools that we haven't thought of yet?
Let's leave no rock unturned here.
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We may still have a chance. I asked Dscott about this on twitter last night and he replied that Cosh was also interviewing at Western Carolina.
:pray:
:pray:
Is there an Eastern Carolina?
yes but there actually a legit program.
Are there any horrible Carolina schools that we haven't thought of yet?
Let's leave no rock unturned here.
SEC East foe: The Citadel
Other FCS schools:
Appalachian State
Campbell
Charleston Southern
Davidson
Elon
Furman
Gardner-Webb
North Carolina A&T
North Carolina Central
Presbyterian (Blue Hose)
South Carolina State
Wofford
And coming soon....Charlotte
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I knew Carolina had a crap ton of schools but it's even more impressive when you see them all listed out.
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Maybe we can get Cosh to spearhead the rebirth of Shocker football. :lynchmob:
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We may still have a chance. I asked Dscott about this on twitter last night and he replied that Cosh was also interviewing at Western Carolina.
:pray:
:pray:
Is there an Eastern Carolina?
yes but there actually a legit program.
Are there any horrible Carolina schools that we haven't thought of yet?
Let's leave no rock unturned here.
SEC East foe: The Citadel
Other FCS schools:
Appalachian State
Campbell
Charleston Southern
Davidson
Elon
Furman
Gardner-Webb
North Carolina A&T
North Carolina Central
Presbyterian (Blue Hose)
South Carolina State
Wofford
And coming soon....Charlotte
Not bad for a bunch of hillbillies
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So, has anyone received insight into why he's interviewing other places? Is he actually being pushed out :love: :love: Or does the think he needs move up while he's on the top of his game.... you know, coaching a top 75 D and all.
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So, has anyone received insight into why he's interviewing other places? Is he actually being pushed out :love: :love: Or does the think he needs move up while he's on the top of his game.... you know, coaching a top 75 D and all.
I hear he's got kids on the East Coast.
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He's got Billy and another son who played at Navy.
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So, has anyone received insight into why he's interviewing other places? Is he actually being pushed out Or does the think he needs move up while he's on the top of his game.... you know, coaching a top 75 D and all.
Man, that's just plain mean.
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I hate cosh and all but WTF would/could we get to come and work for OB scares the bejeezus out of me.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faeryssports.com%2Fride-schooner-ride%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F11%2Fbrent-venables_display_image1.jpg&hash=d5567e8f5d45a8eea02708df2424d19c559cb9b3)
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Hopefully a younger balls LB position coach
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I hate cosh and all but WTF would/could we get to come and work for OB scares the bejeezus out of me.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faeryssports.com%2Fride-schooner-ride%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F11%2Fbrent-venables_display_image1.jpg&hash=d5567e8f5d45a8eea02708df2424d19c559cb9b3)
Yes, please
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man, that is a really scary pic. i bet if you switched out all the burnt red OU stuff with purple KSU stuff, the scary face would magically transform into a kind of adorable angry face, a la HCFM :horrorsurprise:
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nigel malone @nigelmalone24 3m
Im going to be the pooty tang at kstate next year
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nigel malone @nigelmalone24 3m
Im going to be the pooty tang at kstate next year
Nigel Malone may of just become my favorite Kstater on this years team (non-Sams division)
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nigel malone @nigelmalone24 3m
Im going to be the pooty tang at kstate next year
Nigel Malone may of just become my favorite Kstater on this years team (non-Sams division)
All-burning pee team
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mike ekeler
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mike ekeler
Would take.
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mike ekeler
I had heard years ago that he fully bought into the Pelini cult and was just in love with them.
If I remember right, Snyder made a run at him when he came back, and Ekler wasn't leaving Bo.
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mike ekeler
I had heard years ago that he fully bought into the Pelini cult and was just in love with them.
If I remember right, Snyder made a run at him when he came back, and Ekler wasn't leaving Bo.
For DC position or lateral move?
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mike ekeler
I had heard years ago that he fully bought into the Pelini cult and was just in love with them.
If I remember right, Snyder made a run at him when he came back, and Ekler wasn't leaving Bo.
For DC position or lateral move?
I honestly can't remember.
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not dc VK/cosh were on board pretty quick IMO
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Special teams? [spoiler]CRASH[/spoiler]
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But, yes, I'd hire Ekeler in a heartbeat to replace Cosh (if that's on the table).
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I sure as crap wouldn't.
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I wouldn't hire mike ekeler to mow my yard
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Let's go get Hawkins. :excited:
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MIKE EKELER
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?coach=2131&sport=1&year=2012
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MIKE EKELER
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?coach=2131&sport=1&year=2012
HE'LL NEVER LEAVE BO
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I wouldn't hire mike ekeler to mow my yard
Insidery Nebraska information?
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE WILL NEVER LEAVE BO... HE DID LEAVE BO!
HE IS THE DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR AT IU
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I wouldn't hire Mike Ekeler to overhaul my car!!!
Take my word on this.
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I wouldn't hire Mike Ekeler to overhaul my car!!!
Take my word on this.
So he's not a good mechanic, huh?
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I wouldn't hire Mike Ekeler to overhaul my car!!!
Take my word on this.
So he's not a good mechanic, huh?
That's why it was Mike AND the Mechanics and not Mike THE Mechanic.
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE WILL NEVER LEAVE BO... HE DID LEAVE BO!
HE IS THE DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR AT IU
Very kstatefans-y second post. :thumbs:
I wouldn't hire Mike Ekeler to overhaul my car!!!
Take my word on this.
So he's not a good mechanic, huh?
That's why it was Mike AND the Mechanics and not Mike THE Mechanic.
Truly incredible 8010th post. Maybe your best work ever. :lynchmob:
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE WILL NEVER LEAVE BO... HE DID LEAVE BO!
HE IS THE DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR AT IU
Very kstatefans-y second post. :thumbs:
I wouldn't hire Mike Ekeler to overhaul my car!!!
Take my word on this.
So he's not a good mechanic, huh?
That's why it was Mike AND the Mechanics and not Mike THE Mechanic.
Truly incredible 8010th post. Maybe your best work ever. :lynchmob:
Fantastic 3896th post.
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I hate this thread title. Every time I see it, I'm thinking he's really gone. Makes me read for updates every time there's a new post. :bang:
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE WILL NEVER LEAVE BO... HE DID LEAVE BO!
HE IS THE DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR AT IU
Very kstatefans-y second post. :thumbs:
I wouldn't hire Mike Ekeler to overhaul my car!!!
Take my word on this.
So he's not a good mechanic, huh?
That's why it was Mike AND the Mechanics and not Mike THE Mechanic.
Truly incredible 8010th post. Maybe your best work ever. :lynchmob:
JT is a clever guy... I :lol: at MANY of his posts! :cheers:
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I don't see anyone calling for a return of Phil Bennett anymore, I figure out why !?
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I don't see anyone calling for a return of Phil Bennett anymore, I figure out why !?
The answer is shocking. :sdeek:
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I hate this thread title. Every time I see it, I'm thinking he's really gone. Makes me read for updates every time there's a new post. :bang:
Co-sign
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Bucs fire Raheem Morris.
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Bucs fire Raheem Morris.
would love. but don't think Snyder would want him. Plus, this whole thread doesn't matter at all until Cosh is gone........which wont happen.
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Bucs fire Raheem Morris.
I've heard from solid sources that he's on KU's short list for DC.
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Bucs fire Raheem Morris.
I've heard from solid sources that he's on KU's short list for DC.
I find it hard to believe he couldnt do better
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:love: Raheem
Wish Ronny wouldn't have tried to eff his wife. Could have had a great career here, instead Tampa fucks him over.
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HCIW?
:love:
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:love: Raheem
Wish Ronny wouldn't have tried to eff his wife. Could have had a great career here, instead Tampa fucks him over.
Did Raheem get married? I know he was engaged or dating or whathaveyou with Abby Boustead....
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Hartman added, "Like Coach Cosh said, it doesn't matter how many yards you gave up or how many touchdowns the other team scored, if your team has more points than them that's really all that matters."
Wow...I love hearing things like this from our Defensive Coordinator. :facepalm:
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Bucs fire Raheem Morris.
I've heard from solid sources that he's on KU's short list for DC.
Makes sense. Would be perfect for Raheem to join the 5 and out club. 3-5 years as a DC in our conf and he will be cleansed enough to jump back into the NFL coaching pool again. This is lining up better than Lew could have even planned. in 3-5 years several coaches are going to be leaving much richer and and very well rested. Cheyenne Zulu better get out while they are celebrating him.
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Hartman added, "Like Coach Cosh said, it doesn't matter how many yards you gave up or how many touchdowns the other team scored, if your team has more points than them that's really all that matters."
Wow...I love hearing things like this from our Defensive Coordinator. :facepalm:
He really throws the offense under a bus.
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Hartman added, "Like Coach Cosh said, it doesn't matter how many yards you gave up or how many touchdowns the other team scored, if your team has more points than them that's really all that matters."
Wow...I love hearing things like this from our Defensive Coordinator. :facepalm:
This is the thought process of a mediocre DC - what a loser.
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Why shoot for the stars when you're already on top of the dirt ball.
:lynchmob:
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If K-State handed out a most-improved award to members of its coaching staff, Cosh would most certainly win. Under his guidance, the Wildcats went from a team that struggled to defend a simple draw play to a defense few teams try to run against. After ranking 119th out of 120 Division I-A teams against the run last season, K-State now allows 131.4 rushing yards per game and ranks 39th nationally, third in the Big 12.K-State ranks fifth in the Big 12 in total defense, allowing 398.8 yards and 27.8 points per game.
K-State’s passing defense could still use work, but it finds ways to get by. Though it allowed 30 or more points five times, it also regularly closed out games with defensive stops and key turnovers.
Pretty funny they didn't put numbers next to the passing defense rankings. Why run when you can pass? Like Coach Cosh said, "Who cares how many yards you give up or how many points they score, as long as our offense scores more, I'm a good defensive coordinator."
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If K-State handed out a most-improved award to members of its coaching staff, Cosh would most certainly win. Under his guidance, the Wildcats went from a team that struggled to defend a simple draw play to a defense few teams try to run against. After ranking 119th out of 120 Division I-A teams against the run last season, K-State now allows 131.4 rushing yards per game and ranks 39th nationally, third in the Big 12.K-State ranks fifth in the Big 12 in total defense, allowing 398.8 yards and 27.8 points per game.
K-State’s passing defense could still use work, but it finds ways to get by. Though it allowed 30 or more points five times, it also regularly closed out games with defensive stops and key turnovers.
Pretty funny they didn't put numbers next to the passing defense rankings. Why run when you can pass? Like Coach Cosh said, "Who cares how many yards you give up or how many points they score, as long as our offense scores more, I'm a good defensive coordinator."
Ol' Squeeks Wallace has never been on to get bogged down with the details.
Why let a fact like K-State having the 104th ranked pass defense get in the way of a good GoPowercat fluff piece, though?
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South Florida: Don't be surprised if Skip Holtz turns to Kansas State defensive coordinator Chris Cosh to replace Mark Snyder.
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South Florida: Don't be surprised if Skip Holtz turns to Kansas State defensive coordinator Chris Cosh to replace Mark Snyder.
:excited:
:lynchmob:
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Best news is that if he is looking into these other places, Bill has had to have told him to GTFO, right? I mean, you hear people say that Bill never fires, only "helps people get on elsewhere". At this point, Cosh has been looking at HC jobs at two shitty Carolina schools and now as a DC at a lesser school in a lesser conf.
I mean, writing on the wall, right?
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:pray:
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oh dear lord don't get my hopes up
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oh dear lord don't get my hopes up
Heard that. I'm just so sick of this guy, would hire a hit man if I knew one.
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bill would probably just promote the old ballz db coach and find an old cronie to replace cosh. So the combo of cosh leaving and venzy begging for every job in the country would just make it worse. So maybe it would be better if Cosh just stayed.
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oh dear lord don't get my hopes up
Heard that. I'm just so sick of this guy, would hire a hit man if I knew one.
We didn't maintain the retainer for the guy responsible for our UCF win.
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bill would probably just promote the old ballz db coach and find an old cronie to replace cosh. So the combo of cosh leaving and venzy begging for every job in the country would just make it worse. So maybe it would be better if Cosh just stayed.
I just hope Currie won't let that happen. Like, Bill comes back from a lunch with Sharon to find Currie and Venzy are sitting in Bill's office laughing as he opens the door. Like in the movies about southern judges where the other bad guy lawyer is already back in the chambers with the judge and you know Matt Damon's character is about to get screwed.
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that's what i see happening, Snyder just promoting one of the other coaches to DC. If he doesn't take that route, who do you think the top legitimate candidates will be?
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that's what i see happening, Snyder just promoting one of the other coaches to DC. If he doesn't take that route, who do you think the top legitimate candidates will be?
Who is the oldest human being still alive to have any KSU coaching link?
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Well played sir, well played. :thumbsup:
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bill would probably just promote the old ballz db coach and find an old cronie to replace cosh. So the combo of cosh leaving and venzy begging for every job in the country would just make it worse. So maybe it would be better if Cosh just stayed.
I just hope Currie won't let that happen. Like, Bill comes back from a lunch with Sharon to find Currie and Venzy are sitting in Bill's office laughing as he opens the door. Like in the movies about southern judges where the other bad guy lawyer is already back in the chambers with the judge and you know Matt Damon's character is about to get screwed.
Bill doesn't eat lunch. :ohno:
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I wish we could get someone with really strong recruiting ties with texas and florida. I want that 2003 defense back!
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I wish we could get someone with really strong recruiting ties with texas and florida. I want that 2003 defense back!
Me too, Luke. Me too.
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Grumbles that Cosh has been asked to find another job. Captain Old Ballz is being nice and letting him find a soft landing.
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Grumbles that Cosh has been asked to find another job. Captain Old Ballz is being nice and letting him find a soft landing.
:cheers:
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Grumbles that Cosh has been asked to find another job. Captain Old Ballz is being nice and letting him find a soft landing.
God damn it.
You can't take my post, summarize it and put "grumbles" at the beginning of it. Also, that would be Rumblings not Grumblings.
Pfft.
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Grumbles that Cosh has been asked to find another job. Captain Old Ballz is being nice and letting him find a soft landing.
God damn it.
You can't take my post, summarize it and put "grumbles" at the beginning of it. Also, that would be Rumblings not Grumblings.
Pfft.
Bill's too old to rumble, so IMO any rumors around him and the football program are grumbles. More old ballz fitting.
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I refuse to believe that Bill has asked anybody to find a new job...except maybe Currie.
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bill would probably just promote the old ballz db coach and find an old cronie to replace cosh. So the combo of cosh leaving and venzy begging for every job in the country would just make it worse. So maybe it would be better if Cosh just stayed.
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Please, please don't even think this!!!!! :nono:
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SoonerScoop.com @SoonerScoop 7h Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@DavidEGoodspeed He talked to a couple of Clemson recruits. He wasn't making a case for them to go to Clemson.
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Asked if he knew how long this process might take, Venables said he didn't know.
SoonerScoop.com @SoonerScoop 9h Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Venables says he did fly to Florida on a recruiting trip Friday before flying out to Clemson. Hi wife was with him on the flight.
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Brent Venables says he has not accepted the Clemson job. He would not comment on any further questions.
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This make me really sad :cry:
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Coachingsearch.com says Cosh interviewed for DC at USF. Lou must've told Skip 'you oughta talk to Christh Cosshth'
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Coachingsearch.com says Cosh interviewed for DC at USF. Lou must've told Skip 'you oughta talk to Christh Cosshth'
You really gotta start figuring he's being pushed out.
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Coachingsearch.com says Cosh interviewed for DC at USF. Lou must've told Skip 'you oughta talk to Christh Cosshth'
You really gotta start figuring he's being pushed out.
I wish
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Coachingsearch.com says Cosh interviewed for DC at USF. Lou must've told Skip 'you oughta talk to Christh Cosshth'
You really gotta start figuring he's being pushed out.
That's an "I'll believe it when I see it" thing. I want to. I really want to believe. But I've been disappointed before. :frown:
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Three things are certain in life: Death, taxes, and Chris Cosh being our defensive coordinator for eternity. I've come to accept and embrace this.
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Coachingsearch.com says Cosh interviewed for DC at USF. Lou must've told Skip 'you oughta talk to Christh Cosshth'
You really gotta start figuring he's being pushed out.
maybe he wants out? :crossfingers:
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Three things are certain in life: Death, taxes, and Chris Cosh being our defensive coordinator for eternity. I've come to accept and embrace this.
I'll accept it, but will not embrace. Will NOT!!!
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Don't know about the Coastal job but the salary for the Western Carolina HC job he interviewed for is nowhere near what he makes at KSU. He interviewed for La-Monroe HC too after 2009 if I recall. May want out.
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wife and family is back east, wife may still be dealing with health issues
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He wants out, we want him out, family back East, wife is sick. It's all too perfect.
What am I missing here?
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He wants out, we want him out, family back East, wife is sick. It's all too perfect.
What am I missing here?
Nobody back east is dumb enough to hire him.
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give skip a chance. his dad did it a couple of times
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Maybe Venzies is dragging his feet with Clemson, because Bill told him to wait...on account of Cosh leaving.
:bigtoke:
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Maybe Clemson is dragging their feet because of the rumor about venzy or whatever
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Maybe Venzies is dragging his feet with Clemson, because Bill told him to wait...on account of Cosh leaving.
:bigtoke:
This seems plausible.
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A Cosh/Venzy/KSUDC thread. This has some serious potential.
Lotta smoke here, fellas. Lotta smoke. :popcorn:
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Quasi Venzy related. Switzer was on 610 this morning and let slip that Mangino was heading back to OU. Fescoe stopped cold and asked about it(was obvious he hadn't heard anything about this) and Switzer kinda blew it of and said that was the rumor.
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Maybe Clemson is dragging their feet because of the rumor about venzy or whatever
Could the unmentionable sin help Venzy find his way home?
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Quasi Venzy related. Switzer was on 610 this morning and let slip that Mangino was heading back to OU. Fescoe stopped cold and asked about it(was obvious he hadn't heard anything about this) and Switzer kinda blew it of and said that was the rumor.
Wow. Bob's getting the band back together. Basically going to be their version of the 2002 hell freezes over tour, eh?
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Who would we prefer, Venzies or Eckler?
Eckler had a pet piranha that died before his senior year. He had it mounted and dedicated his senior season to him. Seems like a stand-up guy.
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also made light of Snyders choice of undergarments.
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eckler did that flip on a kickoff
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I think that odds are good that eckler is a complete dumbass so if that is a box that needs to be checked in order to get the job then he has that covered.
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eckler did that flip on a kickoff
that is the only reason he is known by any fan... that and the fact he openly said he painted his face black before the game so the other team couldn't see him... would he do this coaching too so that the other team thinks our d-cord didn't show up?
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Maybe Venzies is dragging his feet with Clemson, because Bill told him to wait...on account of Cosh leaving.
:bigtoke:
I thought Bill placed Leavitt at San Fran until he could get Cosh to leave. Then bring in Leavitt. :dunno:
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eckler did that flip on a kickoff
that is the only reason he is known by any fan...
:nono: Crying about his dead piranha.
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Who would we prefer, Venzies or Eckler?
the one that has spent the last decade closing on elite Texas recruits
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team Leavitt
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Who would we prefer, Venzies or Eckler?
the one that has spent the last decade closing on elite Texas recruits
Ya, but Crash HAS been a pretty solid recruiter at NU and Indiana.
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http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/content/new-coordinator-could-be-kansas-states-cosh (http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/content/new-coordinator-could-be-kansas-states-cosh)
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Anyone but Venables is a leap.
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what makes anyone think that if CC leaves, we will hire an upgrade?
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shouldn't we be worrying about hiring a ST coach to replace sean?
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RumorMill just reported Cosh to USF via twitter
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sooooooooooooooooo.....?? :confused: done deal?
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/college/usf-bulls-expected-to-name-kansas-states-chris-cosh-as-defensive/1210946 (http://www.tampabay.com/sports/college/usf-bulls-expected-to-name-kansas-states-chris-cosh-as-defensive/1210946)
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Someone needs to photoshop Cosh into one of the lonely stroll off into the sunset pics. Pretty sure they had some good ones at the end of the Hulk series.
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I would be okay with Hayes being the DC if we hired some young black dude to coach the secondary.
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wow.
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I would be okay with Hayes being the DC if we hired some young black dude to coach the secondary.
no, denied. somebody has to be responsible for the linebackers. hayes would still get secondary if named DC.
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shouldn't we be worrying about hiring a ST coach to replace sean?
:clac: :goodbyecruelworld:
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Okay, a young LBs coach then.
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bobby elliott
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what makes anyone think that if CC leaves, we will hire an upgrade?
I know, it's a pipe dream, but it's still a dream until Bill crushes us by promoting Joe Bob Clements to DC.
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Joe Bob.
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The time has never felt so right venzy. The stars are aligned.
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what makes anyone think that if CC leaves, we will hire an upgrade?
I know, it's a pipe dream, but it's still a dream until Bill crushes us by promoting Joe Bob Clements to DC.
This actually what will happen.
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Sean Snyder DC has a nice ring to it.
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The time has never felt so right venzy. The stars are aligned.
not sure if i want this as the goEMAW server would inevitably explode and there would be no more bbs'ing.
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Ponder these two scenarios, if you will.
Taking the Wisconsin Barry Alvarez approach and hiring a young, hot, highly regarded DC Brett Bielema fresh off of Big XII title, with the intention of grooming him as the successor.
or
Promoting Joe Bob Clements.
Now, ask yourself truthfully which will occur. And which 95% of our fan base will be perfectly fine with.
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Raheem
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Dear God this has to happen (venzy) right?
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Raheem
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would take
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what makes anyone think that if CC leaves, we will hire an upgrade?
would be impossible to not :dunno:
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Does anyone know the piranha's name?
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I hope Billy gets to play in that big pirate boat in the end zone.
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what makes anyone think that if CC leaves, we will hire an upgrade?
would be impossible to not :dunno:
You'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But promoting the old guy or Joe Bob and bringing in Bobby Elliott seems about even to me. At best.
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http://www.coachingsearch.com/coaching-search-ticker.html (http://www.coachingsearch.com/coaching-search-ticker.html)
South Florida: I have learned that Kansas State defensive coordinator Chris Cosh has accepted the defensive coordinator job at South Florida.
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what makes anyone think that if CC leaves, we will hire an upgrade?
would be impossible to not :dunno:
You'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But promoting the old guy or Joe Bob and bringing in Bobby Elliott seems about even to me. At best.
Yeah, that would be horrible.
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Ponder these two scenarios, if you will.
Taking the Wisconsin Barry Alvarez approach and hiring a young, hot, highly regarded DC Brett Bielema fresh off of Big XII title, with the intention of grooming him as the successor.
or
Promoting Joe Bob Clements.
Now, ask yourself truthfully which will occur. And which 95% of our fan base will be perfectly fine with.
Don't scoff at Joe Bob. He's been integral to victory - on both sides - in the Sunflower Showdown. So long as we continue dominating the SQUAWKS, I'm good.
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Billy brightside: We actually forced someone who was under performing out.
Donnie darkside: We will not make a significant hire to replace him.
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Does Whitney's dude have a full-time gig?
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This is going to burn up some bandwidth before it is all over. we are going from pigaggie dollars to venzy dollars in less than a week.
:kstategrad:
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Does Whitney's dude have a full-time gig?
Oh my.... :ohno:
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Billy brightside: We actually forced someone who was under performing out.
Donnie darkside: We will not make a significant hire to replace him.
I have to agree. This already makes me feel better about Bills 2nd go around - It should have happened last year, but I NEVER thought it would have happened at all.
Starting to get that same old feeling for Bill :love:
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It's going to be the Old ballz restaurant guy and db coach.
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It won't be billy bob by himself. I could see the OB DB coach and billy bob as Co-DC but doubt that. I think the old dude has been a DC.
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Guess we'll see exactly how much OBz truly disdains the Kansas Mentors philosophy.
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Billy brightside: We actually forced someone who was under performing out.
Donnie darkside: We will not make a significant hire to replace him.
I have to agree. This already makes me feel better about Bills 2nd go around - It should have happened last year, but I NEVER thought it would have happened at all.
Starting to get that same old feeling for Bill :love:
That is like being loved because you finally emptied the trash on Wed, even though it has been stinking since Sunday. Pretty Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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Billy brightside: We actually forced someone who was under performing out.
Donnie darkside: We will not make a significant hire to replace him.
I have to agree. This already makes me feel better about Bills 2nd go around - It should have happened last year, but I NEVER thought it would have happened at all.
Starting to get that same old feeling for Bill :love:
That is like being loved because you finally emptied the trash on Wed, even though it has been stinking since Sunday. Pretty Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
At least it got taken out before someone got the plague.
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Billy brightside: We actually forced someone who was under performing out.
Donnie darkside: We will not make a significant hire to replace him.
I have to agree. This already makes me feel better about Bills 2nd go around - It should have happened last year, but I NEVER thought it would have happened at all.
Starting to get that same old feeling for Bill :love:
That is like being loved because you finally emptied the trash on Wed, even though it has been stinking since Sunday. Pretty Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
At least it got taken out before someone got the plague.
It has caused a pretty large scale, media covered, infestation.
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my guess is crash or the manager of the closest taco bell. dont really see much in between
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shouldn't we be worrying about hiring a ST coach to replace sean?
this is a more relevant point than attention it is getting, because sean is going to be the DC if cosh leaves.
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We should look at LSU's OC. Very good at keeping points off the board.
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no
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We should look at LSU's OC. Very good at keeping points off the board.
WE SHOULD ALSO HIRE SUPERDOME FIFTY YARD LINE FOR DC AND ONLY SCHEDULE LSU
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Venables gon' be all purp.
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Venables gon' be all purp.
don't do this to these people. You will crush them.
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I think Venzy got an offer he could not refuse. From us. Deep dark secret be damn.
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Venables gon' be all purp.
we are gonna get ludwigged again
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Billy brightside: We actually forced someone who was under performing out.
Donnie darkside: We will not make a significant hire to replace him.
I have to agree. This already makes me feel better about Bills 2nd go around - It should have happened last year, but I NEVER thought it would have happened at all.
Starting to get that same old feeling for Bill :love:
That is like being loved because you finally emptied the trash on Wed, even though it has been stinking since Sunday. Pretty Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Yep. That's me. A big rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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We should look at LSU's OC. Very good at keeping points off the board.
WE SHOULD ALSO HIRE SUPERDOME FIFTY YARD LINE FOR DC AND ONLY SCHEDULE LSU
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The time has never felt so right venzy. The stars are aligned.
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Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 1m
Cosh notified at least one coworker of his move this afternoon.
Rob Cassidy Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 2m
The early short list to fill Cosh's shoes obviously includes Jim Leavitt, Brent Venables and Joe Bob Clements.
Rob Cassidy Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 3m
Multiple sources confirm K-State defensive coordinator Chris Cosh will accept the same position at USF. kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CI…
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Billy brightside: We actually forced someone who was under performing out.
Donnie darkside: We will not make a significant hire to replace him.
I have to agree. This already makes me feel better about Bills 2nd go around - It should have happened last year, but I NEVER thought it would have happened at all.
Starting to get that same old feeling for Bill :love:
That is like being loved because you finally emptied the trash on Wed, even though it has been stinking since Sunday. Pretty Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Yep. That's me. A big rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
You are taking this much more harshly than it was intended. Quit being Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 1m
Cosh notified at least one coworker of his move this afternoon.
Rob Cassidy Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 2m
The early short list to fill Cosh's shoes obviously includes Jim Leavitt, Brent Venables and Joe Bob Clements.
Rob Cassidy Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 3m
Multiple sources confirm K-State defensive coordinator Chris Cosh will accept the same position at USF. kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CI…
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Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 1m
Cosh notified at least one coworker of his move this afternoon.
Rob Cassidy Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 2m
The early short list to fill Cosh's shoes obviously includes Jim Leavitt, Brent Venables and Joe Bob Clements.
Rob Cassidy Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 3m
Multiple sources confirm K-State defensive coordinator Chris Cosh will accept the same position at USF. kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CI…
:runaway:
Yeah. It's gonna end up being Joe Bob. lol
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Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 1m
Cosh notified at least one coworker of his move this afternoon.
Rob Cassidy Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 2m
The early short list to fill Cosh's shoes obviously includes Jim Leavitt, Brent Venables and Joe Bob Clements.
Rob Cassidy Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 3m
Multiple sources confirm K-State defensive coordinator Chris Cosh will accept the same position at USF. kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CI…
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Yeah. It's gonna end up being Joe Bob. lol
so damn hayseedy i cant even say his name without feeling like wt
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Billy brightside: We actually forced someone who was under performing out.
Donnie darkside: We will not make a significant hire to replace him.
I have to agree. This already makes me feel better about Bills 2nd go around - It should have happened last year, but I NEVER thought it would have happened at all.
Starting to get that same old feeling for Bill :love:
That is like being loved because you finally emptied the trash on Wed, even though it has been stinking since Sunday. Pretty Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Yep. That's me. A big rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
You are taking this much more harshly than it was intended. Quit being Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
I may. We'll see. :gocho:
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Folks, let's not act like promoting Joe Bob to DC won't be overwhelming embraced by our fan base.
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Welcome aboard, Joe Bob.
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Srsly. Can't that rough rider just go by Joe? SMH.
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Folks, let's not act like promoting Joe Bob to DC won't be overwhelming embraced by our fan base.
called the banner guy this morning just in case
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Folks, let's not act like promoting Joe Bob to DC won't be overwhelming embraced by our fan base.
Even those saying they hate it now will rationalize it very soon. Just look what happened with Sean. And promoting Joe Bob is honestly a much better hire than Sean.
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If its a current staff promotion I'm guessing it would be a Clements/Hayes co-DC situation.
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Give me Sean over Joe Bob/Hayes.
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Give me Sean over Joe Bob/Hayes.
:lol:
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OU fans, help us.
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Was Hayes was a double secret CO-DC this last season I believe. I think we are looking for just a new LB coach. :bang:
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OU fans, help us.
please, give us some insight. :pray:
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Let's look at the positives here to Cosh leaving.
He wasn't responsible for any recruits.
So there's that.
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kind of interesting, really. people constantly bitch for three years about cosh being here, and then when he leaves, people immediately bitch that we won't get anybody good to replace him.
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it's kind of a never ending bitch fest here.
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kind of interesting, really. people constantly bitch for three years about cosh being here, and then when he leaves, people immediately bitch that we won't get anybody good to replace him.
wait till you see who we hire, whole lot of angry gonna happen
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It's a hard task to make k-state fans happy..
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“One of the things Ford Prefect had always found hardest to understand about humans was their habit of continually stating and repeating the very very obvious.”
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Consult Bryce Brown; what is the tomato soup trying to tell us?
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Does anyone know the piranha's name?
Spagler
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Any DC that will actually SCHEME for a game versus running a rough ridin' base defense 95% of the time regardless of who we are playing or what the score is will be a huge improvement
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Any DC that will actually SCHEME for a game versus running a rough ridin' base defense 95% of the time regardless of who we are playing or what the score is will be a huge improvement
i can assure you, with full confidence, that what you implied in this statement is incorrect.
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kind of interesting, really. people constantly bitch for three years about cosh being here, and then when he leaves, people immediately bitch that we won't get anybody good to replace him.
Actually there were plenty of people here saying that firing Cosh would make no difference, for a variety of reasons including the fact that we wouldn't get anbody good to replace him. Reminders that Snyder isn't as great as he could be are fair reasons to fire up the bitching machine.
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"OU football: Would Brent Venables consider Kansas State?
Posted by berrytramelon January 17, 2012M at 12:25 pm The wait continues for Brent Venables to decide between staying at OU or going to Clemson as defensive coordinator. But here’s a new possibility. What if Venables could return to Kansas State?
Venables played and coached at K-State, and about a decade ago, LHC Bill Snyder tried to get Venables to return as defensive coordinator, reportedly with the promise that Venables would take over the program when Snyder left. Those coach-in-waiting situations can be dicey, as we’ve seen on a variety of fronts, and Venables decided to stay at OU.
But now things are different. Venables has run his own defense for seven seasons, with Mike Stoops the head coach at Arizona. Now Mike Stoops is returning as co-defensive coordinator, and Venables obviously feels slighted, to some degree.
And the KSU defensive coordinator job could be coming open. Chris Cosh is reportedly in line to become defensive coordinator at South Florida. You can read about it here.
Would Snyder be interested in Venables again? Either as defensive coordinator or with the promise of eventually replacing Snyder?
Like I said, we’ve got a lot more evidence now on how head coach-designates work out. Often they don’t. Will Muschamp at Texas, James Franklin at Maryland, Danny Hope at Purdue (still employed, but struggling). But sometimes they do. Oregon’s Chip Kelly, Florida State’s Jimbo Fisher, Wisconsin’s Bret Bielema.
Would Kansas State be interested in a succession plan. Be interested in a guy who cut his teeth in Kansas? Grew up in Salina, played junior college ball at Garden City, played and coached in Manhattan? Venables might have burned a few planks in the bridge a decade ago, but maybe those wounds have healed.
KSU tried life without LHC Bill Snyder or a Snyder protege’. The Wildcats didn’t like it under Ron Prince. Didn’t like it a bit. Maybe Kansas State becomes an option for Venables".
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Actually there were plenty of people here saying that firing Cosh would make no difference, for a variety of reasons including the fact that we wouldn't get anbody good to replace him. Reminders that Snyder isn't as great as he could be are fair reasons to fire up the bitching machine.
A lot of things in life "aren't as great as they could be." But still aren't worth bitching about. Like a 10-2 season, for instance.
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pretty good scoop fanninkgksluke
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Actually there were plenty of people here saying that firing Cosh would make no difference, for a variety of reasons including the fact that we wouldn't get anbody good to replace him. Reminders that Snyder isn't as great as he could be are fair reasons to fire up the bitching machine.
A lot of things in life "aren't as great as they could be." But still aren't worth bitching about. Like a 10-2 season, for instance.
Great point. The possibility of hiring Joe Bob Clements to Defensive Coordinator (or co-DC) is exactly like a 10-2 season. Neither are worth bitching about.
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pretty good scoop fanninkgksluke
Hey dipshit I started the kslimlb3_luke thing, you can't use it against me. Also, lots of rumblings about venables, but nothing has been posted yet.
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who's to say i wasnt serious?
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Venzy would take it now. Didn't before because he thought he was about to light the world on fire career wise. 10 yrs later and he is still not a HC at a decent school.
He will take it because he will see it as his best path to be a BCS HC whether promised to him or not.
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Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 1m
Cosh notified at least one coworker of his move this afternoon.
Rob Cassidy Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 2m
The early short list to fill Cosh's shoes obviously includes Jim Leavitt, Brent Venables and Joe Bob Clements.
Rob Cassidy Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 3m
Multiple sources confirm K-State defensive coordinator Chris Cosh will accept the same position at USF. kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CI…
:excited:
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Minimizing having decent coaches is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Snyder likes details, but that doesn't mean that we can succeed with retards at all of the controls.
Having to do someone's job for them and checking in to make sure someone is doing their job then adding some input are two very different things.
Cosh should have been gone a while ago.
Also, I know that Venzy had better athletes at OU than we will be able to get, but his D's made me fear for the safety of others on the field at times.
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Folks, if bob strawn is in full support of Dana Dimel as our next head coach, so am I.
Let's stop the crazy talk around here of Sean Snyder and get serious about the future of K-State football.
SimmonsFirstCat
New walk-on to the team
Re: Is there any question at the point that Cosh was "asked" to leave?
With no evidence to support my hypotheses, here's my opinion: I think Dimel is our next head coach, so I think the new DC will be someone who has a connection to him. Mike Eckler has that connection because he played here while DD coached here. But I think it will be Wallerstadt because he has worked for DD at Wyoming. At least I think he did.
tmcats
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manhappiness
Re: Is there any question at the point that Cosh was "asked" to leave?
i agree on dimel. emaw.
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Actually there were plenty of people here saying that firing Cosh would make no difference, for a variety of reasons including the fact that we wouldn't get anbody good to replace him. Reminders that Snyder isn't as great as he could be are fair reasons to fire up the bitching machine.
A lot of things in life "aren't as great as they could be." But still aren't worth bitching about. Like a 10-2 season, for instance.
Great point. The possibility of hiring Joe Bob Clements to Defensive Coordinator (or co-DC) is exactly like a 10-2 season. Neither are worth bitching about.
Yeah. Maybe I am just all meltdowned out this week, but in order to be disappointed by a Joe Bob like hire, I suppose I'd have to expect something different.
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We demand Venables.
And we demand him NOW.
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Come home Venzy and we'll dethrone Stoops together. :emawkid:
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I love Bob Strawn's take on the world. It's like he lives in some sort of strange, Norman Rockwellian dimension where everyone sits at a diner counter, sipping down nickel Coke's from the soda fountain, all while watching enormous amounts of women's basketball.
It's just a window into a universe that makes me want to kill myself, but it at least gives me solace that I'm not the biggest idiot in the world.
Folks, if bob strawn is in full support of Dana Dimel as our next head coach, so am I.
Let's stop the crazy talk around here of Sean Snyder and get serious about the future of K-State football.
SimmonsFirstCat
New walk-on to the team
Re: Is there any question at the point that Cosh was "asked" to leave?
With no evidence to support my hypotheses, here's my opinion: I think Dimel is our next head coach, so I think the new DC will be someone who has a connection to him. Mike Eckler has that connection because he played here while DD coached here. But I think it will be Wallerstadt because he has worked for DD at Wyoming. At least I think he did.
tmcats
Post #8217
manhappiness
Re: Is there any question at the point that Cosh was "asked" to leave?
i agree on dimel. emaw.
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Also, I know that Venzy had better athletes at OU than we will be able to get
Venzy could, nay, WOULD change that.
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We demand Venables.
And we demand him NOW.
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Also, I know that Venzy had better athletes at OU than we will be able to get
Venzy could, nay, WOULD change that.
I BELIEVE
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Any DC that will actually SCHEME for a game versus running a rough ridin' base defense 95% of the time regardless of who we are playing or what the score is will be a huge improvement
i can assure you, with full confidence, that what you implied in this statement is incorrect.
I would appreciate you assuring me very much. Please provide any info on frequency of stunts, twists, blitzes, smokes, coverages, defensive audibles and any other data that you have that provide credence to Cosh's ability to scheme as a DC. I actually look forward to learning more about WHY he was a piss poor DC. Or maybe he was incredible but our players all sucked?
I would also add that any DC that doesn't make a statement like "as long as we score more points than the other team, thats all that matters" would be an improvement over the pos we had.
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Come home, Venzy. Come home.
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Also, I know that Venzy had better athletes at OU than we will be able to get
Venzy could, nay, WOULD change that.
It's now or never for Brent. This is the absolute perfect time for this.
It's the succession plan we always needed.
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Grab a raft and float in these calm waters, Brent. Float to your destiny.
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Also, I know that Venzy had better athletes at OU than we will be able to get
Venzy could, nay, WOULD change that.
It's now or never for Brent. This is the absolute perfect time for this.
It's the succession plan we always needed.
Even if it isn't the succession plan, it would give me a reasonable option to believe is the plan, rather than constantly hating part of KSU knowing that Sean is it.
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Tough call for Venables here. On the one hand, you could stay in Norman where your best players OD on oxy and your boss just force fed his loser ass brother on you. Where the fanbase calls for your head any time you let UT score a TD.
or move to Manhattan. Home of 10-2 seasons and calm waters with a fanbase that will build a rough ridin' statute of you mounting a donor's daughter if you just hold OSU under 500 yards.
Tough call here indeed. I'm glad I don't have to make it.
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Come home to Manhattan to atone for your mistakes, Venzy. All is forgiven.
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We need Currie and The Animal on it.
This is why you are here guys. It's your moment.
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Tough call for Venables here. On the one hand, you could stay in Norman where your best players OD on oxy and your boss just force fed his loser ass brother on you. Where the fanbase calls for your head any time you let UT score a TD.
or move to Manhattan. Home of 10-2 seasons and calm waters with a fanbase that will build a rough ridin' statute of you mounting a donor's daughter if you just hold OSU under 500 yards.
Tough call here indeed. I'm glad I don't have to make it.
Ya, good point. Go to Clemson or West Virgina where the HC position is locked up for sometime. Or go to a school where you played and coached, and be HCIW and try to get redemption on Stoops in company. Ya, I just don't know what's best for him here.
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I love Bob Strawn's take on the world. It's like he lives in some sort of strange, Norman Rockwellian dimension where everyone sits at a diner counter, sipping down nickel Coke's from the soda fountain, all while watching enormous amounts of women's basketball.
It's just a window into a universe that makes me want to kill myself, but it at least gives me solace that I'm not the biggest idiot in the world.
Awesome. :thumbs:
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We need Currie and The Animal on it.
This is why you are here guys. It's your moment.
You know Bosco wants his name back on one of the boards here.
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Tough call for Venables here. On the one hand, you could stay in Norman where your best players OD on oxy and your boss just force fed his loser ass brother on you. Where the fanbase calls for your head any time you let UT score a TD.
or move to Manhattan. Home of 10-2 seasons and calm waters with a fanbase that will build a rough ridin' statute of you mounting a donor's daughter if you just hold OSU under 500 yards.
Tough call here indeed. I'm glad I don't have to make it.
Ya, good point. Go to Clemson or West Virgina where the HC position is locked up for sometime. Or go to a school where you played and coached, and be HCIW and try to get redemption on Stoops in company. Ya, I just don't know what's best for him here.
Move 1500 miles away from your recruiting base that you busted your ass on creating for a decade vs. move to the ACC and recruit against the SEC schools. Really tough. This thing is a coin flip.
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Also I think they may be more donors' daughters here if that helps his choice.
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We need Currie and The Animal on it.
This is why you are here guys. It's your moment.
You know Bosco wants his name back on one of the boards here.
Well, I think we both know that goEMAW exec rewards performance.
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I'd give him a pass for the first year if he wants to run around Aggieville telling girls (married or otherwise) that he's the sole owner of goEMAW.com.
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I'd give him a pass for the first year if he wants to run around Aggieville telling girls (married or otherwise) that he's the sole owner of goEMAW.com.
I second.
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I want to believe. I really do. I mean, it’s there. It’s right there. But I know how this ends. I’ve seen it. It’s JoeBob/Hayes as Co-DC/ w/ Blake Seiler moving from a GA to DE’s coach.
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(https://www.kstategear.com/images/883154668391.jpg)
Faints.
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I want to believe. I really do. I mean, it’s there. It’s right there. But I know how this ends. I’ve seen it. It’s JoeBob/Hayes as Co-DC/ w/ Blake Seiler moving from a GA to DE’s coach.
Well obviously. But still. Maybe....just maybe.....I mean it seems so obvious......he coached here.....Bob just demoted him.....
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I want to believe. I really do. I mean, it’s there. It’s right there. But I know how this ends. I’ve seen it. It’s JoeBob/Hayes as Co-DC/ w/ Blake Seiler moving from a GA to DE’s coach.
:frown: cause it's true
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Have the tucks started any threads demanding that HS coach from Clay Center yet?
If not, there will be at least 3 by days end.
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(https://www.kstategear.com/images/883154668391.jpg)
win/win :lynchmob:
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I want to believe. I really do. I mean, it’s there. It’s right there. But I know how this ends. I’ve seen it. It’s JoeBob/Hayes as Co-DC/ w/ Blake Seiler moving from a GA to DE’s coach.
Well obviously. But still. Maybe....just maybe.....I mean it seems so obvious......he coached here.....Bob just demoted him.....
The demotion is the best reason for hope. Bill knows Venzy has potential and promise. Now if he just had someone who could straighten him out, show him the way back, and really mentor the crap out of him...
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Now if he just had someone who could straighten him out, show him the way back, and really mentor the crap out of him...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arch.ksu.edu%2Frenovation%2Fcelebration%2F29.jpg&hash=aa410cc69e6800289cf52bebed276b4b7a64ea14)
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my god
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Now if he just had someone who could straighten him out, show him the way back, and really mentor the crap out of him...
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annnnnnnnd Kietz reports LEavitt rumblings, doesn't even mention Venzy.
Is he part of the anti-venzite crew?
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(https://www.kstategear.com/images/883154668391.jpg)
And no one believed there was anything after the triple-dog dare.
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annnnnnnnd Kietz reports LEavitt rumblings, doesn't even mention Venzy.
Is he part of the anti-venzite crew?
Love the idea that Leavitt would leave a potential super bowl NFL team to be our DC. Also, isn't Leavitt like mid-60's? Pfft, no thanks. Venzy, pls.
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annnnnnnnd Kietz reports LEavitt rumblings, doesn't even mention Venzy.
Is he part of the anti-venzite crew?
Love the idea that Leavitt would leave a potential super bowl NFL team to be our DC. Also, isn't Leavitt like mid-60's? Pfft, no thanks. Venzy, pls.
He also has no recruits.
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annnnnnnnd Kietz reports LEavitt rumblings, doesn't even mention Venzy.
Is he part of the anti-venzite crew?
Love the idea that Leavitt would leave a potential super bowl NFL team to be our DC. Also, isn't Leavitt like mid-60's? Pfft, no thanks. Venzy, pls.
I could look past the age if he could headbutt some TC/FP faces in.
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I want to believe. I really do. I mean, it’s there. It’s right there. But I know how this ends. I’ve seen it. It’s JoeBob/Hayes as Co-DC/ w/ Blake Seiler moving from a GA to DE’s coach.
Well obviously. But still. Maybe....just maybe.....I mean it seems so obvious......he coached here.....Bob just demoted him.....
This is the final act of the Disney movie they'll make about LHC Bill Snyder.
This is where they squeeze in Dennis Quaid as BV.
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annnnnnnnd Kietz reports LEavitt rumblings, doesn't even mention Venzy.
Is he part of the anti-venzite crew?
Love the idea that Leavitt would leave a potential super bowl NFL team to be our DC. Also, isn't Leavitt like mid-60's? Pfft, no thanks. Venzy, pls.
It's not like he's the DC of that Super Bowl team. Being a DC at a BCS program would be a big step up. I'd rather have Venzy, though.
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I want to believe. I really do. I mean, it’s there. It’s right there. But I know how this ends. I’ve seen it. It’s JoeBob/Hayes as Co-DC/ w/ Blake Seiler moving from a GA to DE’s coach.
Well obviously. But still. Maybe....just maybe.....I mean it seems so obvious......he coached here.....Bob just demoted him.....
This is the final act of the Disney movie they'll make about LHC Bill Snyder.
This is where they squeeze in Dennis Quaid as BV.
Would rather Randy
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I want to believe. I really do. I mean, it’s there. It’s right there. But I know how this ends. I’ve seen it. It’s JoeBob/Hayes as Co-DC/ w/ Blake Seiler moving from a GA to DE’s coach.
Well obviously. But still. Maybe....just maybe.....I mean it seems so obvious......he coached here.....Bob just demoted him.....
This is the final act of the Disney movie they'll make about LHC LHC Bill Snyder.
This is where they squeeze in Dennis Quaid as BV.
I really enjoyed this. :thumbs:
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I want to believe. I really do. I mean, it’s there. It’s right there. But I know how this ends. I’ve seen it. It’s JoeBob/Hayes as Co-DC/ w/ Blake Seiler moving from a GA to DE’s coach.
Well obviously. But still. Maybe....just maybe.....I mean it seems so obvious......he coached here.....Bob just demoted him.....
This is the final act of the Disney movie they'll make about LHC Bill Snyder.
This is where they squeeze in Dennis Quaid as BV.
john voight, ol bud kilmer is back for round two
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I want to believe. I really do. I mean, it’s there. It’s right there. But I know how this ends. I’ve seen it. It’s JoeBob/Hayes as Co-DC/ w/ Blake Seiler moving from a GA to DE’s coach.
Well obviously. But still. Maybe....just maybe.....I mean it seems so obvious......he coached here.....Bob just demoted him.....
This is the final act of the Disney movie they'll make about LHC LHC Bill Snyder.
This is where they squeeze in Dennis Quaid as BV.
Would rather Randy
Randy can be Cosh.
Or you can just super impose a very large potato and put a ring of hair around the top of it.
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I want to believe. I really do. I mean, it’s there. It’s right there. But I know how this ends. I’ve seen it. It’s JoeBob/Hayes as Co-DC/ w/ Blake Seiler moving from a GA to DE’s coach.
Well obviously. But still. Maybe....just maybe.....I mean it seems so obvious......he coached here.....Bob just demoted him.....
This is the final act of the Disney movie they'll make about LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder.
This is where they squeeze in Dennis Quaid as BV.
Would rather Randy
Randy can be Cosh.
Or you can just super impose a very large potato and put a ring of hair around the top of it.
It will be James Franco in older man makeup. That way the current James Franco can do the "flashback" scenes that show the "unforgivable sin".
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I want to believe. I really do. I mean, it’s there. It’s right there. But I know how this ends. I’ve seen it. It’s JoeBob/Hayes as Co-DC/ w/ Blake Seiler moving from a GA to DE’s coach.
Well obviously. But still. Maybe....just maybe.....I mean it seems so obvious......he coached here.....Bob just demoted him.....
This is the final act of the Disney movie they'll make about LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder.
This is where they squeeze in Dennis Quaid as BV.
Would rather Randy
Randy can be Cosh.
Or you can just super impose a very large potato and put a ring of hair around the top of it.
It will be James Franco in older man makeup. That way the current James Franco can do the "flashback" scenes that show the "unforgivable sin".
Perfect.
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I want to believe. I really do. I mean, it’s there. It’s right there. But I know how this ends. I’ve seen it. It’s JoeBob/Hayes as Co-DC/ w/ Blake Seiler moving from a GA to DE’s coach.
Well obviously. But still. Maybe....just maybe.....I mean it seems so obvious......he coached here.....Bob just demoted him.....
This is the final act of the Disney movie they'll make about LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder.
This is where they squeeze in Dennis Quaid as BV.
Would rather Randy
Randy can be Cosh.
Or you can just super impose a very large potato and put a ring of hair around the top of it.
It will be James Franco in older man makeup. That way the current James Franco can do the "flashback" scenes that show the "unforgivable sin".
Rachel McAdams the recipient of the sin? :crossfingers:
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You know, even though he just got that cushy job at Liberty U, I bet we could bring in Turner Gill as a Co-DC with Venables. You know, let BV call the plays, and let Turner make sure our players are polite and help the other team up after a tackle. Of course, this does mean that Arthur Brown will have to shut down his twitter, but if that is the only down side, I saw we pull the trigger and make it happen
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kind of interesting, really. people constantly bitch for three years about cosh being here, and then when he leaves, people immediately bitch that we won't get anybody good to replace him.
;)
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I want to believe. I really do. I mean, it’s there. It’s right there. But I know how this ends. I’ve seen it. It’s JoeBob/Hayes as Co-DC/ w/ Blake Seiler moving from a GA to DE’s coach.
Well obviously. But still. Maybe....just maybe.....I mean it seems so obvious......he coached here.....Bob just demoted him.....
This is the final act of the Disney movie they'll make about LHC LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder.
This is where they squeeze in Dennis Quaid as BV.
Would rather Randy
Randy can be Cosh.
Or you can just super impose a very large potato and put a ring of hair around the top of it.
It will be James Franco in older man makeup. That way the current James Franco can do the "flashback" scenes that show the "unforgivable sin".
Rachel McAdams the recipient of the sin? :crossfingers:
:love:
Also, maybe I missed this, but who plays OB?
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ian mckellan
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I want the players Brent would get as a head coach, that's it.
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Sandusky.
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My guess is it will be Leavitt or Hayes, possibly with Clements as co-DC (as in second in command) to Hayes.
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venzy it is
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If it's not Brent, it better be:
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That is the worst rough ridin' jacket ever
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That is the worst rough ridin' jacket ever
If by worst you mean best :love:
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it almost looks like the jacket is tucked in
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My guess is it will be Leavitt or Hayes, possibly with Clements as co-DC (as in second in command) to Hayes.
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venzy it is
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it almost looks like the jacket is tucked in
It's a sign! :runaway:
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it almost looks like the jacket is tucked in
Sold!
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shutp Rams (WITAH)
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@call_me_WALLACE
Ryan Wallace
Brent Venables will not be a DC or anything else at Kansas State. Folks "in the know" understand why. Sorry, but that's that. End of story.
The Ballad Of Brent
(to the tune of "Who Says You Can't Go Home (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYSO4nhAeo8)")
He spent 8 years at Kansas State
But he left when Bob came calling him in 98
He was leaving the only thing he'd ever known
They say he took some recruits
Went down to Norman, forsaking his roots
Won it all in 2000 and made a chest of gold.
He's been there, done that, now he'd like a big job of his own,
But K-State won't even take his calls on the telephone
That's why he can't go home
[Chorus]
That's why Brent can't go home
Burned the place where they called him one of their own
Just a Salina boy, Jayhawk quarters thrown, but still he can't go home
They say he can't go back, there's an unmentionable sin and that's a fact
There's only one place left he wants to go, but Brent can't go home
It's alright, it's alright, it's alright, it's alright, its alright
They say he loved to do yay, and the rest of those drugs
Coked out of his mind, facedown on the rug
All just to land the next recruit out on the road
It was the only way to go 20 hours strong
He knew that Bill was demanding, never went home,
Brent thought he had to do it, he couldn't have known,
That's why he can't go home.
[Chorus]
That's why Brent can't go home
Too much drugs and booze and rock 'n' roll
Just tryin' to recruit, a little nose candy blown, and now he can't go home
They say he can't go back, there's an unmentionable sin and that's a fact
There's only one place left he wants to go, but Brent can't go home
It's alright, it's alright, it's alright, it's alright, its alright
It doesn't matter what he does, it doesn't matter what he says
He made his bed when he jumped in one with someone dear to the prez,
The bigwigs found out, now every K-Stater knows,
that's why he can't go home
[Chorus]
That's why Brent can't go home
Sex, drugs, and recruits, spitting in K-State's eye,
On top of it all, stole Snyder's baseballs, wait that's a different guy
They say he can't go back, there's an unmentionable sin and that's a fact
There's only one place left he wants to go, but Brent can't go home
It's alright, it's alright, it's alright, it's alright, its alright
It's alright, it's alright, it's alright, it's alright, its alright
That's why Brent can't go home. [x2]
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where the eff did that come from
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:thumbs:
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who is ryan wallace
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@call_me_WALLACE
Ryan Wallace
Brent Venables will not be a DC or anything else at Kansas State. Folks "in the know" understand why. Sorry, but that's that. End of story.
False, Ryan.
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We should look at LSU's OC. Very good at keeping points off the board.
WE SHOULD ALSO HIRE SUPERDOME FIFTY YARD LINE FOR DC AND ONLY SCHEDULE LSU
Watch out, you're talking about the COY... greater than 50 yd line. :lol:
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Today del is throwing 7 different kinds of smoke.
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Ryan Wallace with another lazy ass take.
If you tweet that, write the story or STFU.
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who is ryan wallace
someone in the know
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who is ryan wallace
someone in the know
I'll bet.
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Waters Calmed people.
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Someone go to the unused equipment shed where mo is sleeping now and let him know he's the new dc.
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Someone go to the unused equipment shed where mo is sleeping now and let him know he's the new dc.
What's Shorty up to nowadays?
:dunno:
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JFC, Squeaks. This is seriously Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) even by his standards.
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Smart tweet by DJamer Wally. We all know Venables is highly unlikely to be hired simply because OBz will make the lazy hire of Hayes/JoeBob. Wally put this out there so that when the inevitable happens, tards think he's "in the know."
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Smart tweet by DJamer Wally. We all know Venables is highly unlikely to be hired simply because OBz will make the lazy hire of Hayes/JoeBob. Wally put this out there so that when the inevitable happens, tards think he's "in the know."
how true
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gonna love it when it turns out everybody who "reported" this is full of crap.
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Squeaks blocked me on twitter. still pissed about that one.
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Please dear lord ... this guy ... just for the ensuing train wreck!
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venzy or bust, no excuse
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We're all about to be fitz V. 2.0
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler
For what it's worth: source close to Venables' agent believes he's headed to Clemson. Just passing it on. Do with it what you will.
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JFC, he could be the next god damn head coach at a pretty solid program, instead hes gonna go to a program that already has its young up and coming coach to be an assistant for the rest of eternity
eff
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If it's not Brent, it better be:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.allanstanglin.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fjohnblake.jpg&hash=cb33d82da95a56b8c9b86cb866c8e592d4b38f63)
That is one hell of a jacket,
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Smart tweet by DJamer Wally. We all know Venables is highly unlikely to be hired simply because OBz will make the lazy hire of Hayes/JoeBob. Wally put this out there so that when the inevitable happens, tards think he's "in the know."
I keep wondering why though; why would he bother pushing cc out if he was just going to be lazy about replacing him?
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I keep wondering why though; why would he bother pushing cc out if he was just going to be lazy about replacing him?
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Perhaps CC wasn't pushed...
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Snyder doesn't strike me as the lazy type, nor the type to make a splashy hire. Could see Leavitt returning, Venzy is a bit of a stretch though. Then again, I'm still riding high on a 10-2 season so the sky's the limit.
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Purdue: Sources tell me that Montreal Alouettes defensive coordinator / linebackers coach Tim Tibesar has been offered the defensive coordinator job at Purdue. I am told it's possible this one could go either way. No decision made at this point.
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Purdue: Sources tell me that Montreal Alouettes defensive coordinator / linebackers coach Tim Tibesar has been offered the defensive coordinator job at Purdue. I am told it's possible this one could go either way. No decision made at this point.
how? i mean... wow
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has anyone from a USF news source confirmed Cosh?
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Purdue: Sources tell me that Montreal Alouettes defensive coordinator / linebackers coach Tim Tibesar has been offered the defensive coordinator job at Purdue. I am told it's possible this one could go either way. No decision made at this point.
how? i mean... wow
Both Tibesar and Cosh getting jobs being a DC is completely baffling. Completely. That said, perhaps we haven't read official confirmation yet from any USF source because they're reading goEMAW, so maybe we should shut up.
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I Can't believe Chris Cosh would do this to us. I knew this 10-2 season would hurt us more in the long run!!!! :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
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UBBEN!
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/44138/brent-venables-time-at-k-state-is-now
LHC Bill Snyder famously returned to Kansas State with the intention of "calming the waters" and restoring stability to Kansas State's program.
Well, it appears the seas at Kansas State are notably less stormy these days, fresh off a 10-win season and returning a team with the pieces to win a Big 12 title.
Down south in Oklahoma, though, the seas look a bit rockier.
Willie Martinez was let go to make room for Mike Stoops, whose arrival paved the way for what can only be classified as a demotion for Brent Venables. He's gone from the man in charge of Oklahoma's defense since 2004 to the man sharing coordinator duties with Stoops, the exact spot he sat in back in 2003.
Between now and then, head coaching opportunities have surfaced but were never consummated.
Now, it's a little different.
The new arrival at Oklahoma has Venables mulling a reported offer from Clemson, an unthinkable move in any other scenario. In this situation, it's understandable. Stoops, through no one's fault, now stands as a rather large deterrent to Venables ever becoming a head coach.
Until, well, Monday.
News out of Clemson has been quiet, and Monday night, a report surfaced that sent Kansas State DC Chris Cosh to South Florida.
Venables has a decision to make. But after a new opening at Kansas State, it should be easy for both sides.
Hire Venables immediately. Do whatever it takes to bring him back to his alma mater and have Snyder walk away from Kansas State one more time on top.
Then hand the program off to Venables.
After Will Muschamp left Texas, no coordinator in the Big 12 was more ready for a head coaching job. Venables spent six years at Kansas State coaching linebackers from 1993-98 before leaving to join Bob Stoops at Oklahoma.
Now's the time to come back. It's fallen into place for both sides.
Venables' head-coaching opportunities have slimmed a bit, but the man can still coach and put together a defense. Why else would programs like Clemson be chasing him? His road to a head coach job becomes clearer under Dabo Swinney.
But it won't be clearer anywhere else than if Snyder decides to bring his pupil back on board and hand him the reins to the program in 2013.
The dead period is over in recruiting, and the late move complicates matters on the trail, but in coaching, coaches do what's best for themselves. No one would blame Venables for leaving, just like no one blames Bob Stoops for demoting Venables in favor of a veteran head coach who's also his brother. Kansas State would get an ideal candidate for the job, someone familiar with Snyder's ways and knowledgeable about the challenges the program has to overcome to be successful.
Snyder mastered that. Venables seems the most likely to continue it.
That leaves three big questions:
Does Kansas State want to take the leap and go down the coach-in-waiting role that has failed others?
It should. The problem that derailed Muschamp at Texas was the open-ended time frame for Mack Brown to step down.
One or two years makes sense at Kansas State.
What about West Virginia? Please. Snyder's not going to be spreading salacious rumors about his understudy, and this is only a good idea if Snyder is on board. Bill Stewart was forced into handing his duties to Dana Holgorsen.
Does Venables want to take the leap?
Kansas State is a different place than Oklahoma. He won't have the nation's top talent to craft his defenses anymore. Life's going to be more difficult in The Little Apple, but is anyone more ready to handle it than Venables?
Is Snyder ready to leave again?
He hasn't exactly offered many hints that he is. That's another big hurdle to clear, and something Snyder has to eventually decide. The 72-year-old just finished his third season back at Kansas State.
But for both sides, this move makes too much sense. If Venables wants to be a head coach, Kansas State is the best and quickest option for him to do it.
If Kansas State wants the best coach to succeed Snyder a second time, the Snyder disciple and Kansas native, Venables, is their man.
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wow i did not know i would be this excited.
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But for both sides, this move makes too much sense. If Venables wants to be a head coach, Kansas State is the best and quickest option for him to do it.
If Kansas State wants the best coach to succeed Snyder a second time, the Snyder disciple and Kansas native, Venables, is their man.
The Tom Hayes, Joe Bob Co DC tandem is going to be difficult.
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If this doesn't happen. Well, JFC
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wow i did not know i would be this excited.
completely It's Pattersoned myself and another person when i read the headline. :bang:
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But, but, but gopowercat peeps swear their inside sources say there's no way. :dunno:
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But, but, but gopowercat peeps swear their inside sources say there's no way. :dunno:
"In the know" sources?
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If this doesn't happen. Well, JFC
You clearly don't understand. Venables committed an unspeakable act. People at GPC who are "in the know" won't talk about it. Literally. Unspeakable.
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ACCUSATIONS!!!!!!!
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Ubben! (http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/44138/brent-venables-time-at-k-state-is-now)
Apologies for repeating what is already posted in the Cosh thread.
This seemed like the more appropriate place though, you know?
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The Venables "unspeakable act" is hilariously fake. Anyone who claims it isn't and that they know what it is is lying to you.
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If this doesn't happen. Well, JFC
X2
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Ubben! (http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/44138/brent-venables-time-at-k-state-is-now)
Apologies for repeating what is already posted in the Cosh thread.
This seemed like the more appropriate place though, you know?
solved
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The Venables "unspeakable act" is hilariously fake. Anyone who claims it isn't and that they know what it is is lying to you.
even if it was true, with the power of the internet and the fact that a certain president isnt even with the school anymore i think we can get this thing fixed
calm the waters, so to speak
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The Venables "unspeakable act" is hilariously fake. Anyone who claims it isn't and that they know what it is is lying to you.
even if it was true, with the power of the internet and the fact that a certain president isnt even with the school anymore i think we can get this thing fixed
calm the waters, so to speak
yeah, but it's not true
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All we need to know as that the "in the know" people priviledged to this closely guarded unspeakable and unforgivable act like DJamer Wally simply are "in the know". Don't ask questions, just know that it's really bad and the only people that need to know are "in the know".
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The Venables "unspeakable act" is hilariously fake. Anyone who claims it isn't and that they know what it is is lying to you.
even if it was true, with the power of the internet and the fact that a certain president isnt even with the school anymore i think we can get this thing fixed
calm the waters, so to speak
yeah, but it's not true
does fitz have a daughter? maybe he just sent the minions out to destroy venzy for no reason. im very perplexed by all of these :powerespect: rumors
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am I the only one that wishes for a Venzy return to K-State will go down like it did in 98? Venzy raids OU's staff and recruits from inside OU's offices for K-State. :bball:
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The Venables "unspeakable act" is hilariously fake. Anyone who claims it isn't and that they know what it is is lying to you.
even if it was true, with the power of the internet and the fact that a certain president isnt even with the school anymore i think we can get this thing fixed
calm the waters, so to speak
yeah, but it's not true
does fitz have a daughter? maybe he just sent the minions out to destroy venzy for no reason. im very perplexed by all of these :powerespect: rumors
they are all lying because they want people to think they know something
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The Venables "unspeakable act" is hilariously fake. Anyone who claims it isn't and that they know what it is is lying to you.
even if it was true, with the power of the internet and the fact that a certain president isnt even with the school anymore i think we can get this thing fixed
calm the waters, so to speak
No Kidding! I mean, the POTUS wasn't born in America you guys but he can be President!?
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am I the only one that wishes for a Venzy return to K-State will go down like it did in 98? Venzy raids OU's staff and recruits from inside OU's offices for K-State. :bball:
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am I the only one that wishes for a Venzy return to K-State will go down like it did in 98? Venzy raids OU's staff and recruits from inside OU's offices for K-State. :bball:
And KSU ends up as National Champs in a couple of years!! :emawkid:
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Maybe I'm the only one around who doesn't think Venables is the best we can do to replace Snyder when the time comes. ...sigh...
:frown:
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Neither Brent nor his wife want to go back to Manhattan. :flush:
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Maybe I'm the only one around who doesn't think Venables is the best we can do to replace Snyder when the time comes. ...sigh...
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I don't think you would be but he sure as crap is the best guy to replace Cosh on 1/18/12
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If you have to ask if you're "in the know" . . . then dude, you aren't.
Sorry . . . and don't ask people that are, because that's uncool, and the first rule of of "in the know" club is . . .
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Maybe I'm the only one around who doesn't think Venables is the best we can do to replace Snyder when the time comes. ...sigh...
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nobody wants this job.
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Neither Brent nor his wife want to go back to Manhattan. :flush:
this person is obviously "in the know"
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Maybe I'm the only one around who doesn't think Venables is the best we can do to replace Snyder when the time comes. ...sigh...
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nobody wants this job.
Sean?
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Well if Sean is our DC, then every play will either be a TD for the other team, or an INT returned for a TD by K-State.
So, that could be exciting, but then again, I could or could not be "in the know".
But I dunno. :dunno:
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Neither Brent nor his wife want to go back to Manhattan. :flush:
this person is obviously "in the know"
Let me handle his wife and Bill can work on venzy.
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Maybe I'm the only one around who doesn't think Venables is the best we can do to replace Snyder when the time comes. ...sigh...
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nobody wants this job.
You seem to be "in the know"
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Neither Brent nor his wife want to go back to Manhattan. :flush:
this person is obviously "in the know"
Let me handle his wife and Bill can work on venzy.
You have permission to claim to be sole owner again for this task.
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Maybe I'm the only one around who doesn't think Venables is the best we can do to replace Snyder when the time comes. ...sigh...
:frown:
I don't think you would be but he sure as crap is the best guy to replace Cosh on 1/18/12
As long as there's no "HCIW" hoo-haw, I'm 100% on board with that hire.
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Neither Brent nor his wife want to go back to Manhattan. :flush:
this person is obviously "in the know"
Let me handle his wife and Bill can work on venzy.
You have permission to claim to be sole owner again for this task.
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Just had a client meeting and this one joker started asking me a bunch of questions about this thing and that and work and stuff. I finally just looked at him and I was like, "I'm in the know". He totally piped down with stupid questions after that.
Hilarious. We were all totally rolling in the office after it happened.
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Maybe I'm the only one around who doesn't think Venables is the best we can do to replace Snyder when the time comes. ...sigh...
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I don't think you would be but he sure as crap is the best guy to replace Cosh on 1/18/12
As long as there's no "HCIW" hoo-haw, I'm 100% on board with that hire.
"Anti-HCIW" is the dumbest rough ridin' talking point in all of college football. :facepalm:
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Maybe I'm the only one around who doesn't think Venables is the best we can do to replace Snyder when the time comes. ...sigh...
:frown:
It's possible that we could get better candidates. I don't think it would be easy, though, while this Venzy thing is as easy as it gets and is relatively low risk (because he would at least bring in talent at a higher level than we currently are). Does he bother you personally? Seems like you always don't like him when his name comes up.
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Just had a client meeting and this one joker started asking me a bunch of questions about this thing and that and work and stuff. I finally just looked at him and I was like, "I'm in the know". He totally piped down with stupid questions after that.
Hilarious. We were all totally rolling in the office after it happened.
I am going to go down the hall and go fishing with some "in the know" bait and see who I can clown with my intheknow-ness.
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Maybe I'm the only one around who doesn't think Venables is the best we can do to replace Snyder when the time comes. ...sigh...
:frown:
It's possible that we could get better candidates. I don't think it would be easy, though, while this Venzy thing is as easy as it gets and is relatively low risk (because he would at least bring in talent at a higher level than we currently are). Does he bother you personally? Seems like you always don't like him when his name comes up.
I think some people are scared to be happy on here Michigancat. What if Venzy works out? I mean how long can we handle calming the waters? I totally get it Stan, i'm scared too.
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Not sure why everyone thinks Venzy would continue recruiting like he has at OU.
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Not sure why everyone thinks Venzy would continue recruiting like he has at OU.
He wouldn't, and I didn't say he would. I said he would recruit better than we currently do here.
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I just feel like Venzy is kind of a security blanket. There are no guarantees once Bill leaves, but atleast Venzy is something we know. We are not throwing darts at a dart board blind folded this time like the Prince hire. If he doesn't work out, atleast he made sense.
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Just had a client meeting and this one joker started asking me a bunch of questions about this thing and that and work and stuff. I finally just looked at him and I was like, "I'm in the know". He totally piped down with stupid questions after that.
Hilarious. We were all totally rolling in the office after it happened.
I am going to go down the hall and go fishing with some "in the know" bait and see who I can clown with my intheknow-ness.
Yep, let us know how it goes. Really clownsuit em' with your "in the know-ness" when they try to act smarter than you.
Dumb people. Lol.
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Just had a client meeting and this one joker started asking me a bunch of questions about this thing and that and work and stuff. I finally just looked at him and I was like, "I'm in the know". He totally piped down with stupid questions after that.
Hilarious. We were all totally rolling in the office after it happened.
I am going to go down the hall and go fishing with some "in the know" bait and see who I can clown with my intheknow-ness.
Yep, let us know how it goes. Really clownsuit em' with your "in the know-ness" when they try to act smarter than you.
Dumb people. Lol.
Guess who gets incredibly mad at people who are "in the know"?
Losers who aren't "in the know"
:lol:
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I really enjoyed this breakdown:
Jim Bob is no Campo, I looked at Jim Bob hard as a possible D Cord here and concluded he was not ready. Good luck, Cats.
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You see Chris Cosh transferred to Butler CC? Interesting..
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Just had a client meeting and this one joker started asking me a bunch of questions about this thing and that and work and stuff. I finally just looked at him and I was like, "I'm in the know". He totally piped down with stupid questions after that.
Hilarious. We were all totally rolling in the office after it happened.
I am going to go down the hall and go fishing with some "in the know" bait and see who I can clown with my intheknow-ness.
Yep, let us know how it goes. Really clownsuit em' with your "in the know-ness" when they try to act smarter than you.
Dumb people. Lol.
Guess who gets incredibly mad at people who are "in the know"?
Losers who aren't "in the know"
:lol:
Dumbasses. Hilarious.
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Whoops, meant to say Billy Cosh transferred..
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I really enjoyed this breakdown:
Jim Bob is no Campo, I looked at Jim Bob hard as a possible D Cord here and concluded he was not ready. Good luck, Cats.
That is some fantastic BBS X and O'ing right there.
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Whoops, meant to say Billy Cosh transferred..
really? damn.
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 8m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Source: Venables absolutely not interested in K-State coordinator job.
Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Leavitt>Venables anyway.
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Leavitt>Venables anyway.
wrong in every way
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i dont see why Leavitt would come here now.
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Leavitt>Venables anyway.
wrong in every way
One guy can't get a D1 head coaching job anywhere. The other guy built a program from scratch and was successful for years. Game over.
That said, we'll probably end up with someone shittier than Leavitt.
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 8m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Source: Venables absolutely not interested in K-State coordinator job.
Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Leavitt>Venables anyway.
Would you say the source is "in the know"?
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i dont see why Leavitt would come here now.
This. I actually think Leavitt is more of a longshot than Venables.
San Fran is a great gig/lifestyle.
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Leavitt sucks.
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This is fun, but it will likely prove to be a completely uninteresting and rather boring hire/promotion.
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i dont see why Leavitt would come here now.
This. I actually think Leavitt is more of a longshot than Venables.
San Fran is a great gig/lifestyle.
Agreed. Only second to Lawrence, Kansas. I heard Leviatt wanted Lawrence but was ok with San Fran as a backup plan.
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 8m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Source: Venables absolutely not interested in K-State coordinator job.
Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Leavitt>Venables anyway.
what do they both make? seems respected to think that we can't afford to pay a lifetime college coordinator, but can afford to entice a guy away from his gig at a team(who's identity is his defense) on the verge of winning the superbowl.
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It's going to be a musical chair scenario with probably someone like Travis Ochs coming in as a GA. This is almost a certainty and we all know it. But it's fun to talk about it.
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I think Venzy makes like 600-700k
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Leavitt>Venables anyway.
wrong in every way
One guy can't get a D1 head coaching job anywhere. The other guy built a program from scratch and was successful for years. Game over.
That said, we'll probably end up with someone shittier than Leavitt.
Venables is a better recruiter (in our prime recruiting area, especially) and d coordinator. Venables is also better looking and aromatic. And Leavitt got fired.
Game is NOW over. :armscrossed:
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Notre Dame: Iowa State defensive backs coach Bobby Elliot has accepted a position at Notre Dame.
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Notre Dame: Iowa State defensive backs coach Bobby Elliot has accepted a position at Notre Dame.
:surprised:
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
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we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
What if that's exactly what Bill wants?
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 8m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Source: Venables absolutely not interested in K-State coordinator job.
Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Leavitt>Venables anyway.
Who's this Sittler guy? If he's never "bumped" around with Venzy and Michael Smith back in the day, he knows jackshit about the lure of Venzy being back in the band. Those two used to go HARD!
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 8m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Source: Venables absolutely not interested in K-State coordinator job.
Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Leavitt>Venables anyway.
Who's this Sittler guy? If he's never "bumped" around with Venzy and Michael Smith back in the day, he knows jackshit about the lure of Venzy being back in the band. Those two used to go HARD!
sittler is a douchebag reporter from tulsa who hates k-state.
and knows nothing on this topic.
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I HATE Tulsa douchebags. :chainsaw:
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Come on K-State!
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Come on K-State!
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Oh, my.
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we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
What if that's exactly what Bill wants?
True.
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wow
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It's going to be a musical chair scenario with probably someone like Travis Ochs coming in as a GA. This is almost a certainty and we all know it. But it's fun to talk about it.
Is it really fun though SD? Is it? :cry:
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
i dunno. the rumor/fact of john's initial (slap in the face) offer to frank and co. during the summer before the "pay frank" season suggests that currie might be a cheapie. or maybe he just didn't/doesn't like frank and anya.
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What would you expect an AD to offer a dude with like 2 yrs experience as a college HC? Of course he's going to come in low to start.
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Maybe I'm the only one around who doesn't think Venables is the best we can do to replace Snyder when the time comes. ...sigh...
:frown:
It's possible that we could get better candidates. I don't think it would be easy, though, while this Venzy thing is as easy as it gets and is relatively low risk (because he would at least bring in talent at a higher level than we currently are). Does he bother you personally? Seems like you always don't like him when his name comes up.
Nothing against him personally, I just don't trust his record. If he goes to Clemson and coaches a great defense there & recruits great there, THEN I'll love hiring Venables as our head coach. I'm just not convinced he does much of anything at OU. And the fact he's just about the only coach on Stoops original staff (the only one?) who's never left there after years, and years, and years, plays right into these concerns...
For me, it's the same as really wanting to hire Jankovich or Steve Heson as basketball coach "because he's a KSU guy." It's selling ourselves short.
I think we can do better than him for our next coach, on his current resume. Granted, he's not as big a reach as Prince was, but I hope the people running the university now aren't as stupid as the ones who hired Prince.
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I want to want Venables as the HC. It does perplex me, though, that he's never been mentioned as a candidate for any HC openings. He's been at OU for 13 years, coached some amazing defenses, won some championships. Yet, he lingers as a coordinator
Just look at guys under Snyder - Leavitt, Stoops, Stoops, Mangino, Bielemma, etc. All head coaches. But, not Venables.
Is he a poor speaker, mildly Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), etc? What's his deal?
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Maybe I'm the only one around who doesn't think Venables is the best we can do to replace Snyder when the time comes. ...sigh...
:frown:
It's possible that we could get better candidates. I don't think it would be easy, though, while this Venzy thing is as easy as it gets and is relatively low risk (because he would at least bring in talent at a higher level than we currently are). Does he bother you personally? Seems like you always don't like him when his name comes up.
Nothing against him personally, I just don't trust his record. If he goes to Clemson and coaches a great defense there & recruits great there, THEN I'll love hiring Venables as our head coach. I'm just not convinced he does much of anything at OU. And the fact he's just about the only coach on Stoops original staff (the only one?) who's never left there after years, and years, and years, plays right into these concerns...
For me, it's the same as really wanting to hire Jankovich or Steve Heson as basketball coach "because he's a KSU guy." It's selling ourselves short.
I think we can do better than him for our next coach, on his current resume. Granted, he's not as big a reach as Prince was, but I hope the people running the university now aren't as stupid as the ones who hired Prince.
If you don't want Venzy to be our head coach right now, you are stupid.
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It's going to be a musical chair scenario with probably someone like Travis Ochs coming in as a GA. This is almost a certainty and we all know it. But it's fun to talk about it.
You sound very "in the know" sd.
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
I am not ITK on this but I'd bet Bill and Currie collaborate a bit. Like, Bill gives him the name of his staff and w2hen Currie learns the staff consists of a guy who was managing a Tanners, a guy who got ran out at Maryland and his son Currie decides that the budget doesn't need to be as high as other schools because he is competing with, respectively, Nick & Jakes, no one, Sharon paying for odd jobs around the house.
Why break the bank? We aren't stupid like ku who thinks if you pay someone like a big time coach they will become one.
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Tulsa douchebag quotes unnamed source in Tweet and CBS runs with it:
http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/34453272 (http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/34453272)
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
i dunno. the rumor/fact of john's initial (slap in the face) offer to frank and co. during the summer before the "pay frank" season suggests that currie might be a cheapie. or maybe he just didn't/doesn't like frank and anya.
Currie would be willing to invest more in a football coach. I have confidence (false hope?) that Currie understands that good assistant coaches in football have a direct correlation to increased future revenue.
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I'm really good at finances. I'm like getting a B- in my masters accounting class right now. Let me handle this. Give Venzy the take home money we got from the Cotton Bowl and give him the RA role at Haymaker. Free stay. I'll be here all day for anymore questions? :gocho:
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One underlying theme seems very obvs to me: I will prob not watch much KSU fb as of some point in the relatively near future.
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
i dunno. the rumor/fact of john's initial (slap in the face) offer to frank and co. during the summer before the "pay frank" season suggests that currie might be a cheapie. or maybe he just didn't/doesn't like frank and anya.
he just didn't/doesn't like frank and anya.
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Who is bringing the "Come home Brent" sign to the game tonight?
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 8m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Source: Venables absolutely not interested in K-State coordinator job.
Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Leavitt>Venables anyway.
Who's this Sittler guy? If he's never "bumped" around with Venzy and Michael Smith back in the day, he knows jackshit about the lure of Venzy being back in the band. Those two used to go HARD!
sittler is a douchebag reporter from tulsa who hates k-state.
and knows nothing on this topic.
He's also a racist and was busted on Deadspin or something like that.
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Who is bringing the "Come home Brent" sign to the game tonight?
the, "Come home Brent, we'll have Asian Hookers and Cocaine waiting for you," sign.
That'll bring him back.
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Maybe I'm the only one around who doesn't think Venables is the best we can do to replace Snyder when the time comes. ...sigh...
:frown:
It's possible that we could get better candidates. I don't think it would be easy, though, while this Venzy thing is as easy as it gets and is relatively low risk (because he would at least bring in talent at a higher level than we currently are). Does he bother you personally? Seems like you always don't like him when his name comes up.
Nothing against him personally, I just don't trust his record. If he goes to Clemson and coaches a great defense there & recruits great there, THEN I'll love hiring Venables as our head coach. I'm just not convinced he does much of anything at OU. And the fact he's just about the only coach on Stoops original staff (the only one?) who's never left there after years, and years, and years, plays right into these concerns...
So you think Stoops just pays him $600k or so just for the hell of it? Also, I am merely suggesting the DC/HCIW thing, not ousting Snyder and make Venables HC. Why couldn't we see how he recruits and run a defense here? You can always back out of the deal if it doesn't work out.
For me, it's the same as really wanting to hire Jankovich or Steve Heson as basketball coach "because he's a KSU guy." It's selling ourselves short.
Unlike Henson, the only reason Venables would consider the DC/HCIW thing is because he's a KSU guy. He'd be far too good for us otherwise.
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
Yes...and it would make perfect sense for him to sacrifice the success of his program because he won't spend money that is not his. Great argument here on why our staff is under paid....Old Ballz is simply stingy with other peoples money. Genius.
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Yes...and it would make perfect sense for him to sacrifice the success of his program because he won't spend money that is not his. Great argument here on why our staff is under paid....Old Ballz is simply stingy with other peoples money. Genius.
He actually did that with Vanier renovations. Ask Dax about it.
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
I am not ITK on this but I'd bet Bill and Currie collaborate a bit. Like, Bill gives him the name of his staff and w2hen Currie learns the staff consists of a guy who was managing a Tanners, a guy who got ran out at Maryland and his son Currie decides that the budget doesn't need to be as high as other schools because he is competing with, respectively, Nick & Jakes, no one, Sharon paying for odd jobs around the house.
Why break the bank? We aren't stupid like ku who thinks if you pay someone like a big time coach they will become one.
Like hiring some fat dude that works at a turnpike toll booth?
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Yes...and it would make perfect sense for him to sacrifice the success of his program because he won't spend money that is not his. Great argument here on why our staff is under paid....Old Ballz is simply stingy with other peoples money. Genius.
He actually did that with Vanier renovations. Ask Dax about it.
Was it a money thing or a disruption thing? Both?
The old story I heard was that he didn't want Vanier to be out of commission long enough for them to do what they really needed to do to it. Otherwise, he would have. However, he wanted it done a certain way so as not to disrupt how his notepad plans told him how to run his daily schedule.
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Yes...and it would make perfect sense for him to sacrifice the success of his program because he won't spend money that is not his. Great argument here on why our staff is under paid....Old Ballz is simply stingy with other peoples money. Genius.
He actually did that with Vanier renovations. Ask Dax about it.
Was it a money thing or a disruption thing? Both?
The old story I heard was that he didn't want Vanier to be out of commission long enough for them to do what they really needed to do to it. Otherwise, he would have. However, he wanted it done a certain way so as not to disrupt how his notepad plans told him how to run his daily schedule.
Please don't let the facts get in the way of a reason to be butthurt. OB's was given the opportunity for a beautful new football complex and he flat turned it down because it was just too much and he's rough ridin' stupid.
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Yes...and it would make perfect sense for him to sacrifice the success of his program because he won't spend money that is not his. Great argument here on why our staff is under paid....Old Ballz is simply stingy with other peoples money. Genius.
He actually did that with Vanier renovations. Ask Dax about it.
Was it a money thing or a disruption thing? Both?
The old story I heard was that he didn't want Vanier to be out of commission long enough for them to do what they really needed to do to it. Otherwise, he would have. However, he wanted it done a certain way so as not to disrupt how his notepad plans told him how to run his daily schedule.
Please don't let the facts get in the way of a reason to be butthurt. OB's was given the opportunity for a beautful new football complex and he flat turned it down because it was just too much and he's rough ridin' stupid.
LOL
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Yes...and it would make perfect sense for him to sacrifice the success of his program because he won't spend money that is not his. Great argument here on why our staff is under paid....Old Ballz is simply stingy with other peoples money. Genius.
He actually did that with Vanier renovations. Ask Dax about it.
Was it a money thing or a disruption thing? Both?
The old story I heard was that he didn't want Vanier to be out of commission long enough for them to do what they really needed to do to it. Otherwise, he would have. However, he wanted it done a certain way so as not to disrupt how his notepad plans told him how to run his daily schedule.
Please don't let the facts get in the way of a reason to be butthurt. OB's was given the opportunity for a beautful new football complex and he flat turned it down because it was just too much and he's rough ridin' stupid.
The option was there to build a brand new one. But he wanted the phased expansion for whatever reason.
You have to understand that the power structure that was in place when Snyder had total control was pretty much a paper tiger. Wefald, Urick, Weiser, etc. Whatever Bill would want, Bill would get, for whatever reason he stated.
If Bill said jump, they all said, "How high?"
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Nothing against him personally, I just don't trust his record. If he goes to Clemson and coaches a great defense there & recruits great there, THEN I'll love hiring Venables as our head coach. I'm just not convinced he does much of anything at OU. And the fact he's just about the only coach on Stoops original staff (the only one?) who's never left there after years, and years, and years, plays right into these concerns...
So you think Stoops just pays him $600k or so just for the hell of it? Also, I am merely suggesting the DC/HCIW thing, not ousting Snyder and make Venables HC. Why couldn't we see how he recruits and run a defense here? You can always back out of the deal if it doesn't work out.
For me, it's the same as really wanting to hire Jankovich or Steve Heson as basketball coach "because he's a KSU guy." It's selling ourselves short.
Unlike Henson, the only reason Venables would consider the DC/HCIW thing is because he's a KSU guy. He'd be far too good for us otherwise.
OK, I'm fine with hiring him as HCIW as long as we cross our fingers behind our back at the time. (But with our bumbling team of legal beagles, I wouldn't be surprised if KSU drafted the first "HCIW" contract in history that was legally binding, and screwed ourselves over...)
My main points go to not wanting him to be HC right now -- I really think we could find better candidates if that's the position we were hiring for.
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My main points go to not wanting him to be HC right now -- I really think we could find better candidates if that's the position we were hiring for.
It's possible, but far from a guarantee. He's a guy that should be on our radar because of his recruiting history and recruiting base.
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
Yes...and it would make perfect sense for him to sacrifice the success of his program because he won't spend money that is not his. Great argument here on why our staff is under paid....Old Ballz is simply stingy with other peoples money. Genius.
Snyder is pretty conservative. If you haven't noticed.
You think a guy that micro-manages every last detail imaginable related to his program isn't going to be the final authority with compensation for his coaches of what he deems appropriate?
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
I am not ITK on this but I'd bet Bill and Currie collaborate a bit. Like, Bill gives him the name of his staff and w2hen Currie learns the staff consists of a guy who was managing a Tanners, a guy who got ran out at Maryland and his son Currie decides that the budget doesn't need to be as high as other schools because he is competing with, respectively, Nick & Jakes, no one, Sharon paying for odd jobs around the house.
Why break the bank? We aren't stupid like ku who thinks if you pay someone like a big time coach they will become one.
My watering hole :cheers:
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This sucks. No way Leavitt or Venables happen. We're just like the KU fans dreaming of Harbaugh, Leavitt, Leach, etc.
'grats on the promotion, Hayes!
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
I am not ITK on this but I'd bet Bill and Currie collaborate a bit. Like, Bill gives him the name of his staff and w2hen Currie learns the staff consists of a guy who was managing a Tanners, a guy who got ran out at Maryland and his son Currie decides that the budget doesn't need to be as high as other schools because he is competing with, respectively, Nick & Jakes, no one, Sharon paying for odd jobs around the house.
Why break the bank? We aren't stupid like ku who thinks if you pay someone like a big time coach they will become one.
My watering hole :cheers:
Which one?
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'grats on the promotion, Hayes!
Don't leave out Joe Bob, don't want to make the guy feel unwelcomed or anything. :bawl:
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
I am not ITK on this but I'd bet Bill and Currie collaborate a bit. Like, Bill gives him the name of his staff and w2hen Currie learns the staff consists of a guy who was managing a Tanners, a guy who got ran out at Maryland and his son Currie decides that the budget doesn't need to be as high as other schools because he is competing with, respectively, Nick & Jakes, no one, Sharon paying for odd jobs around the house.
Why break the bank? We aren't stupid like ku who thinks if you pay someone like a big time coach they will become one.
My watering hole :cheers:
Which one?
135th and Metcalf..
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
I am not ITK on this but I'd bet Bill and Currie collaborate a bit. Like, Bill gives him the name of his staff and w2hen Currie learns the staff consists of a guy who was managing a Tanners, a guy who got ran out at Maryland and his son Currie decides that the budget doesn't need to be as high as other schools because he is competing with, respectively, Nick & Jakes, no one, Sharon paying for odd jobs around the house.
Why break the bank? We aren't stupid like ku who thinks if you pay someone like a big time coach they will become one.
My watering hole :cheers:
Which one?
135th and Metcalf..
Classic spot. Let me know when you want LSOC and his crew of elites to do a guest appearance.
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we need to devise a plan on how we're going to excommunicate venables from the "purple nation" when he rebukes our advances this final time.
seems like a good job for pete.
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why do ex-kansas staters hate us? (Venables, Patterson, etc..)
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why do ex-kansas staters hate us? (Venables, Patterson, etc..)
We know what they did!
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just leave an email
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[email protected]
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[email protected]
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[email protected]
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[email protected]
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[email protected]
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[email protected]
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why do ex-kansas staters hate us? (Venables, Patterson, etc..)
Being EMAW is fun. No one wants to spoil the fun by making it into work.
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
I am not ITK on this but I'd bet Bill and Currie collaborate a bit. Like, Bill gives him the name of his staff and w2hen Currie learns the staff consists of a guy who was managing a Tanners, a guy who got ran out at Maryland and his son Currie decides that the budget doesn't need to be as high as other schools because he is competing with, respectively, Nick & Jakes, no one, Sharon paying for odd jobs around the house.
Why break the bank? We aren't stupid like ku who thinks if you pay someone like a big time coach they will become one.
My watering hole :cheers:
Which one?
135th and Metcalf..
Classic spot. Let me know when you want LSOC and his crew of elites to do a guest appearance.
SWINGERS
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[email protected]
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[email protected]
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[email protected]
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[email protected]
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[email protected]
Any of these should work. I'm really interested here, so please send me the info ASAP.
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Chip Brown @ChipBrownOB 5m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
RT @johnehoover: Sounds like Venables has decided to join Clemson staff as DC. being reported in SCarolina. #Sooners
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I can appreciate Snyder not wanting to spend other peoples money. But sometimes those kinds of decisions, and the lack of flexibility cause more of "other peoples money" to have to be spent down the line. In addition a lot of "other peoples money" was and is being asked for already (donations, season tickets, Ahearn Fund, fund raisers, etc. etc. etc. etc.) with the expectation that K-State field a good to very good football team. Part of that process is having good facilities. K-State has good facilities, but with more flexibility, and an ability to look a little farther down the line, K-State could have had great (not just good) player facilities already, and would NOT have to be looking at a "New Vanier" 6-7-8 years from now, that may very well cost a lot more money.
This is not hard.
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We never get anything nice. Just old, crusty stuff that is just valuable enough that people won't get rid of it.
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Jesus Christ
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I never wanted him. :ArmsCrossed:
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yep.
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we need to devise a plan on how we're going to excommunicate venables from the "purple nation" when he rebukes our advances this final time.
seems like a good job for pete.
Wheels are in motion...
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Brent Venab . . . Brent Venabol . . . Brent Vennanolbles . . . never heard of him, WTH kind of name is Venanoblis anyway?
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler
BREAKING: Brent Venables just texted: "I'm staying." I assume he's serious.
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Oh goodness. Squeaks giving a journalism lecture on twitter.
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Oh goodness. Squeaks giving a journalism lecture on twitter.
omg, this is excellent
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Oh goodness. Squeaks giving a journalism lecture on twitter.
where does one start w/ this nonsense :sdeek:
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I think most of have been blocked by Squeaks. Post details!
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bottom to top...
Ryan Wallace @call_me_WALLACE 6m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
So if you want honesty & moral journalism, you're following the right guy. If you only want the dirt, best follow somebody else. It's not me
Ryan Wallace @call_me_WALLACE 8m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
a tradition of quality journalism standards and moving past that garbage to work on what matters- information on a different DC. The next DC
Ryan Wallace @call_me_WALLACE 9m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
that person will not be Brent Venables. So rather than criticizing those of us who "keep secrets", why not pat us on the back for carrying
Ryan Wallace @call_me_WALLACE 9m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
wants. It should always be about what the people need. In this case, the people NEED to know who KSU's next DC will be & all I can say is
Ryan Wallace @call_me_WALLACE 10m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
of being thirsty for fame & a longing for constantly having the spotlight for "being the first". It's not always about what the public
Ryan Wallace @call_me_WALLACE 10m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
do arise where you have to keep a clear mind & understand that it's more important to have quality & strength behind your career, not a rep
Ryan Wallace @call_me_WALLACE 11m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
trust. You have to show them that you'll be persistent because it's your job, but that you'll also hold morals & your word. Because moments
Ryan Wallace @call_me_WALLACE 12m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
But there's also things like being credible & reliable. Because, you see, to get those interesting stories out of folks, you have to earn
Ryan Wallace @call_me_WALLACE 12m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
That's NOT what it's about. Journalism is about sharing worthy material with an audience. Sure there's digging & questioning in the approach
Ryan Wallace @call_me_WALLACE 13m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
No matter how bad journalism has become thanks to things like Twitter & the social belief that it's all about "being 1st" or "breaking news"
Ryan Wallace @call_me_WALLACE 14m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
For those of you bugging me to "spill beans" on this Venables bologna because "we are journalists", you're adding to beliefs I can't stand.
Ryan Wallace @call_me_WALLACE 15m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Ok, I'm about to blow up your Twitter feed. I can't hold this in any longer, so here goes... Apologies ahead of time...
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:lol:
You have to include his picture Ell.
(https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1762369413/Picture_5_reasonably_small.png)
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So is this Ryan Wallace youngster a GoPo employee . . . and if so, we aren't we all laughing extremely . . . no check that . . . rolling on the floor here at the office (and at your office) about any sort of soap boxing from a GoPo employee in regards to jounalistic "standards"?
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I very much enjoy the diametrically opposed reactions:
https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%40call_me_WALLACE
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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So is this Ryan Wallace youngster a GoPo employee . . . and if so, we aren't we all laughing extremely . . . no check that . . . rolling on the floor here at the office (and at your office) about any sort of soap boxing from a GoPo employee in regards to jounalistic "standards"?
Yeah, he's a GoPow employee... Went to my high school. Glad to see that it is "journalistic integrity" to not tell anyone why one of the best feasible options simply isn't an option. GMAFB.
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SoonerScoop.com
Let me say that we are not saying we know Venables is staying. Only that he said current reports he took the job were "not true".
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SoonerScoop.com @SoonerScoop 1m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
"Working through some details, nothing final either way" - Brent Venables just now in a text to SoonerScoop.
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SoonerScoop.com @SoonerScoop 1m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
"Working through some details, nothing final either way" - Brent Venables just now in a text to SoonerScoop.
SWOOP IN, BILL!
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blocked by squeaks. :frown:
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Brent Venables will not be a DC or anything else at Kansas State. Folks "in the know" understand why.
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now that I know the root source of the rumor, I honestly don't believe it
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the rumor being BS was a goEMAW scoop btw :curse:
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Brent Venables will not be a DC or anything else at Kansas State. Folks "in the know" understand why.
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now that I know the root source of the rumor, I honestly don't believe it
:lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Brent Venables will not be a DC or anything else at Kansas State. Folks "in the know" understand why.
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now that I know the root source of the rumor, I honestly don't believe it
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where'd the 2nd part come from?
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I am amused by the story of how everyone assumed OU's def coordinator was leaving, only to find out later that he wasn't going anywhere. Something to learn from, I guess.
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I am amused by the story of how everyone assumed OU's def coordinator was leaving, only to find out later that he wasn't going anywhere. Something to learn from, I guess.
;)
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I am amused by the story of how everyone assumed OU's def coordinator was leaving, only to find out later that he wasn't going anywhere. Something to learn from, I guess.
:surprised:
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Mods, please change thread title back to Cosh never leaving.
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What a fun day of grab ass. So let me get this correct, nothing has been confirmed at Kstate, Oklahoma, Clemson, or South Florida? What a beautiful BBS'ing day, truly blessed. :excited:
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It's like waking up from a vivid dream. Is this real life?!
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if so, I'm ok with it. we weren't getting venzy.
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FIRE COSH! WARM UP THE BANNER!
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if so, I'm ok with it. we weren't getting venzy.
Yep, now we at least get to keep seeing his gorgeous face every year still :emawkid:
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if so, I'm ok with it. we weren't getting venzy.
This is way better than the Hayes/Joe Bob nightmare. And we were 10-2! Cosh FTW.
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We're getting into a bidding war with USF for Chris rough ridin' Cosh aren't we
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We're getting into a bidding war with USF for Chris rough ridin' Cosh aren't we
no, dumbass
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Let's start the bidding at $0 then.
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Dave Sittler @DaveSittler 52m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Seriously doubt if K-State would pay the money it would take to get Venables. Insiders say Jim Leavitt is a more likely hire for Snyder.
Our pay scale for our assistant staff is apparently the lowest in the Big XII. At some point this mentality by Snyder is going to have to change.
We're either going to have to get competitive in that respect, or we're simply not going to compete in a territory that would attract a top level assistant to join that staff with the potential to vie for the head coaching position.
Who determines the “budget” for fb salaries? I’m assuming it’s currie and then bill allocates accordingly? I mean, we ended up paying ‘te 450K. Of course that was not originate during Currie’s tenure. I’m sure john would have vetoed ‘te making that much if Frank wanted him now.
It has to be in tandem.
I don't buy that the money isn't there. Currie has elevated the overall athletic budget by close to $7 million annually since he took over. He's shown the propensity to invest in import things like facilities and improvements that affect the fan experience. He's smart. He knows the price to compete for a BCS level program.
If you take that into account, there's actually a high probability that Snyder is setting his own pay scale for his staff.
I am not ITK on this but I'd bet Bill and Currie collaborate a bit. Like, Bill gives him the name of his staff and w2hen Currie learns the staff consists of a guy who was managing a Tanners, a guy who got ran out at Maryland and his son Currie decides that the budget doesn't need to be as high as other schools because he is competing with, respectively, Nick & Jakes, no one, Sharon paying for odd jobs around the house.
Why break the bank? We aren't stupid like ku who thinks if you pay someone like a big time coach they will become one.
My watering hole :cheers:
Which one?
135th and Metcalf..
Classic spot. Let me know when you want LSOC and his crew of elites to do a guest appearance.
Noted. Usually there for the games, except for tonight :bball:
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I am amused by the story of how everyone assumed OU's def coordinator was leaving, only to find out later that he wasn't going anywhere. Something to learn from, I guess.
:frown:
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The Cap'n giveth and the Cap'n taketh away.
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Venzy to Clemson. :cry:
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I'm so incredibly sad.
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Yup announced like an hour ago. Sent a text to the Rivals mods., sorry guys.
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anybody naive enough to believe that it was a legitimate possibility for 'venzy' to come here deserves to suffer.
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OU could be looking at Leavitt.. Jim Ross says so :drool:
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Cosh isn't leaving I bet. If it hasn't been made official yet, it's not happening
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http://www.gousfbulls.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7700&ATCLID=205364347 (http://www.gousfbulls.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7700&ATCLID=205364347)
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Touché bad person, touché. Now it's time to do the lazy hire
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthe-mainboard.com%2Fstyles%2Fdefault%2Fxenforo%2Fsmilies%2Fcrossedarms.gif&hash=9849fd091c204f9149d7923deb155e33773b033b)
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OU could be looking at Leavitt.. Jim Ross says so :drool:
eff you pussy
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http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OU/article.aspx?subjectid=92&articleid=20120118_92_0_TheBre630348
He got a new contract in 2007 that paid him $210,000, but that was raised in 2008 to $315,000 (which at the time was among the 10 highest-paid coordinators in the nation). After the 2008 national championship game, Venables was bumped again to $345,000, and after his 2009 unit ranked in the top 10 in the nation in rushing defense, total defense and scoring defense, he got another increase to $395,000. Venables’ most recent increase in October 2010 put him at $440,000.
Speculation out of Clemson is that Venables could make upwards of $600,000 to $800,000. Swinney last month nearly tripled the annual compensation of first-year offensive coordinator Chad Morris to $1.3 million.
We Never Had a chance.
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first-year offensive coordinator Chad Morris to $1.3 million.
:horrorsurprise:
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http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OU/article.aspx?subjectid=92&articleid=20120118_92_0_TheBre630348
He got a new contract in 2007 that paid him $210,000, but that was raised in 2008 to $315,000 (which at the time was among the 10 highest-paid coordinators in the nation). After the 2008 national championship game, Venables was bumped again to $345,000, and after his 2009 unit ranked in the top 10 in the nation in rushing defense, total defense and scoring defense, he got another increase to $395,000. Venables’ most recent increase in October 2010 put him at $440,000.
Speculation out of Clemson is that Venables could make upwards of $600,000 to $800,000. Swinney last month nearly tripled the annual compensation of first-year offensive coordinator Chad Morris to $1.3 million.
We Never Had a chance.
I guess that information kind of makes me feel better. I mean holy crap.
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Had a nice ITKpak with my circle of ITK'rs at a place those ITK know about before the game last night. Don't worry about what we discussed. Those ITK know. Shots.
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Dennis Dodd @dennisdoddcbs
Good luck and happy trails to Brent Venables, a supremely class act. Just get me a seat near Mike Stoops in coaches' booth. #kstatememories
wuz this mean?
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Dennis Dodd @dennisdoddcbs
Good luck and happy trails to Brent Venables, a supremely class act. Just get me a seat near Mike Stoops in coaches' booth. #kstatememories
wuz this mean?
think he's saying venzy freaked out in the booth a lot? dunno
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Dennis Dodd @dennisdoddcbs
Good luck and happy trails to Brent Venables, a supremely class act. Just get me a seat near Mike Stoops in coaches' booth. #kstatememories
wuz this mean?
think he's saying venzy freaked out in the booth a lot? dunno
i bet he smells awful. like fear and depression
would still take
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OU could be looking at Leavitt.. Jim Ross says so :drool:
:shakesfist:
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Dennis Dodd @dennisdoddcbs
Good luck and happy trails to Brent Venables, a supremely class act. Just get me a seat near Mike Stoops in coaches' booth. #kstatememories
wuz this mean?
You aren't ITK? pfffft
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http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OU/article.aspx?subjectid=92&articleid=20120118_92_0_TheBre630348
He got a new contract in 2007 that paid him $210,000, but that was raised in 2008 to $315,000 (which at the time was among the 10 highest-paid coordinators in the nation). After the 2008 national championship game, Venables was bumped again to $345,000, and after his 2009 unit ranked in the top 10 in the nation in rushing defense, total defense and scoring defense, he got another increase to $395,000. Venables’ most recent increase in October 2010 put him at $440,000.
Speculation out of Clemson is that Venables could make upwards of $600,000 to $800,000. Swinney last month nearly tripled the annual compensation of first-year offensive coordinator Chad Morris to $1.3 million.
We Never Had a chance.
The being cheap with spending money on coaching salaries part?
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http://sportstalk1400.podomatic.com/player/web/2012-01-19T06_58_11-08_00
:frown:
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http://sportstalk1400.podomatic.com/player/web/2012-01-19T06_58_11-08_00
:frown:
summarize
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http://sportstalk1400.podomatic.com/player/web/2012-01-19T06_58_11-08_00
:frown:
summarize
said Mike coming back wasn't reason he left(obviously lying.) Said tough decision, wasn't money related as OU matched offer from Clemson. Different opportunity, wants to be a head coach some day. KSU never brought up. Norman will always be home. Brent tears up. Random joke about having to wear purple, i didnt quite get.
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http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OU/article.aspx?subjectid=92&articleid=20120118_92_0_TheBre630348
He got a new contract in 2007 that paid him $210,000, but that was raised in 2008 to $315,000 (which at the time was among the 10 highest-paid coordinators in the nation). After the 2008 national championship game, Venables was bumped again to $345,000, and after his 2009 unit ranked in the top 10 in the nation in rushing defense, total defense and scoring defense, he got another increase to $395,000. Venables’ most recent increase in October 2010 put him at $440,000.
Speculation out of Clemson is that Venables could make upwards of $600,000 to $800,000. Swinney last month nearly tripled the annual compensation of first-year offensive coordinator Chad Morris to $1.3 million.
We Never Had a chance.
HCIW is probably worth more than the money.
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How much of a meltdown will there be when Snyder makes the announcement that he likes nepotism and hires Sean as the sole DC?
Will the meltdown affect the fantastic people at goEMAW.COM more than the shirt tucks?
When it does happen I will be in :popcorn: mode.
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How much of a meltdown will there be when Snyder makes the announcement that he likes nepotism and hires Sean as the sole DC?
Will the meltdown affect the fantastic people at goEMAW.COM more than the shirt tucks?
When it does happen I will be in :popcorn: mode.
Pretty much expected at this point.
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How much of a meltdown will there be when Snyder makes the announcement that he likes nepotism and hires Sean as the sole DC?
Will the meltdown affect the fantastic people at goEMAW.COM more than the shirt tucks?
When it does happen I will be in :popcorn: mode.
Pretty much expected at this point.
Won't stop the meltdown, though.
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How much of a meltdown will there be when Snyder makes the announcement that he likes nepotism and hires Sean as the sole DC?
Will the meltdown affect the fantastic people at goEMAW.COM more than the shirt tucks?
When it does happen I will be in :popcorn: mode.
Pretty much expected at this point.
Pretty much at the point where I would expect a few tucks, if not more, to meltdown if Sean doesn't get it.
Won't stop the meltdown, though.
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I'm actually looking forward to the meltdown very much.
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I will burn this mother down. Will be the best meltdown in history.
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How much of a meltdown will there be when Snyder makes the announcement that he likes nepotism and hires Sean as the sole DC?
Will the meltdown affect the fantastic people at goEMAW.COM more than the shirt tucks?
When it does happen I will be in :popcorn: mode.
already practicing my meltdowns... I have a strongly worded email ready to go to Currie telling him how bad of a hire sean is as DC and that I will not be renewing my tickets or contributing my usual $25 to the ahearn fund :surprised:
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Do we have a shot with Crash?
I'd be pretty pumped out Crash.
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Do we have a shot with Crash?
I'd be pretty pumped out Crash.
yeah, at this point it I would be too
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Do we have a shot with Crash?
I'd be pretty pumped out Crash.
yeah, at this point it I would be too
Me too! (this is great meltdown buildup, btw. Someone get Cassidy to call him.)
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OU could be looking at Leavitt.. Jim Ross says so :drool:
are you the guy on twitter that got really butthurt about my austin box joke re: your website not working properly?
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Venzy bleeds about as much purple as Mangino and the rest of those male genitals-suckers that left with them. KSU was no more than a pit stop and Snyder was never his mentor. I'd assume Snyder was a bit relieved when the majority of the Cocaine Cowboys left MHK for Norman.
It sucks a male genitals that Venzy will never come back but we shouldn't act surprised as if we had a chance. Him and Kirby Hocutt were tight back in the day, don't be shocked if he gets a sniff at the Tech job when Tuberville gets shitcanned.
Anyhow ... coach'em up Sean!
There's my meltdown.
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I'd assume Snyder was a bit relieved when the majority of Cocaine Cowboys left MHK for Norman.
if this is true he is probably the dumbest person on this planet
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I'd assume Snyder was a bit relieved when the majority of Cocaine Cowboys left MHK for Norman.
if this is true he is probably the dumbest person on this planet
You are correct, sir!
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Over/Under on how many people tell Snyder "No?"
I'll say 4.
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Over/Under on how many people tell Snyder "No?"
I'll say 4.
The Hayes, Joe Bob, mys GA aren't turning down this gig. 0.
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gonna end up with a HS coach from Clay Center. Tuck approval will be out of sight high.
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Everyone at Clemson is so far out of the know. Dumbasses.
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Over/Under on how many people tell Snyder "No?"
I'll say 4.
The Hayes, Joe Bob, mys GA aren't turning down this gig. 0.
You are suggesting that Snyder goes directly after that crew? :sdeek:
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Over/Under on how many people tell Snyder "No?"
I'll say 4.
The Hayes, Joe Bob, mys GA aren't turning down this gig. 0.
You are suggesting that Snyder goes directly after that crew? :sdeek:
oh yeah, I'm suggesting it
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Everyone at Clemson is so far out of the know. Dumbasses.
:thumbs:
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I am amused by the story of how everyone assumed OU's def coordinator was leaving, only to find out later that he wasn't going anywhere. Something to learn from, I guess.
So about that...
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I am amused by the story of how everyone assumed OU's def coordinator was leaving, only to find out later that he wasn't going anywhere. Something to learn from, I guess.
So about that...
not the highest point in cc's illustrious posting career.
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I am amused by the story of how everyone assumed OU's def coordinator was leaving, only to find out later that he wasn't going anywhere. Something to learn from, I guess.
So about that...
not the highest point in cc's illustrious posting career.
Can apply to many things, never mentioned Cosh. Something to think about, I guess.
:peek:
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:surprised:
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:zzz:
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I am amused by the story of how everyone assumed OU's def coordinator was leaving, only to find out later that he wasn't going anywhere. Something to learn from, I guess.
So about that...
not the highest point in cc's illustrious posting career.
Can apply to many things, never mentioned Cosh. Something to think about, I guess.
:peek:
hmmmm....well now I don't know what to think
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Everyone at Clemson is so far out of the know. Dumbasses.
Dabo "not in the know" Sweeney
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Everyone at Clemson is so far out of the know. Dumbasses.
Being "in the know" about K-State's non-competitiveness with coaching salaries and inability to attract top level assistants is one of the most closely guarded secrets in the world of sports journalism.
It's practically an oath that you live your life by if you ever want to be taken seriously as quality, moral journalist like Ryan Wallace.
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Everyone at Clemson is so far out of the know. Dumbasses.
Dabo "not in the know" Sweeney
Dabo knows blow.
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I am amused by the story of how everyone assumed OU's def coordinator was leaving, only to find out later that he wasn't going anywhere. Something to learn from, I guess.
So about that...
not the highest point in cc's illustrious posting career.
Can apply to many things, never mentioned Cosh. Something to think about, I guess.
:peek:
:runaway:
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Everyone at Clemson is so far out of the know. Dumbasses.
Being "in the know" about K-State's non-competitiveness with coaching salaries and inability to attract top level assistants is one of the most closely guarded secrets in the world of sports journalism.
It's practically an oath that you live your life by if you ever want to be taken seriously as quality, moral journalist like Ryan Wallace.
Being a journalist carries certain sacred responsibilities, you "know"?
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I am amused by the story of how everyone assumed OU's def coordinator was leaving, only to find out later that he wasn't going anywhere. Something to learn from, I guess.
So about that...
not the highest point in cc's illustrious posting career.
Can apply to many things, never mentioned Cosh. Something to think about, I guess.
:peek:
:runaway:
Time machine reference to Frank with Miami last year? :confused:
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I am amused by the story of how everyone assumed OU's def coordinator was leaving, only to find out later that he wasn't going anywhere. Something to learn from, I guess.
So about that...
not the highest point in cc's illustrious posting career.
Can apply to many things, never mentioned Cosh. Something to think about, I guess.
:peek:
I rough ridin' hate riddles. :sdeek:
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cc, if this is a reference to Bryce, I'll kiss you right on the mouth.
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Not to question CC, but it sounds more like a "It's Patterson!" type of deal.
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As to Cosh leaving, if I'm not mistaken, his family didn't move to Manhattan. So, it was a just a matter of time before he moved on.
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Pretty sure someone reported that Bryce had already filled out the paperwork to declare. :dunno:
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no disrespect to CC, but seems like he's just trying to cover his tracks right now
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no disrespect to CC, but seems like he's just trying to cover his tracks right now
I don't blame cc if he didn't know what was going to happen with Venables. If he posts anything about the K-State Athletic Department though, I take it as gospel.
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no disrespect to CC, but seems like he's just trying to cover his tracks right now
I don't blame cc if he didn't know what was going to happen with Venables. If he posts anything about the K-State Athletic Department though, I take it as gospel.
agree.
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no disrespect to CC, but seems like he's just trying to cover his tracks right now
I don't blame cc if he didn't know what was going to happen with Venables. If he posts anything about the K-State Athletic Department though, I take it as gospel.
agree.
Would love it if he could shed some light on this (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=11099.msg435466#msg435466) question. :D :ksu:
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Just listened to the Toby to Brent Venables radio podcast. Is it just me or does BV sound like he's not too smart. Not sure if purple would have improved his slow Kansas draw mixed with even slower Okie vocabulary. :dunno:
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If Leavitt wants HCIW I would rather keep Cosh or Hayes
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If Leavitt wants HCIW I would rather keep Cosh or Hayes
Its not like we couldn't change our mind. I just want a good d-cord.
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If Leavitt wants HCIW I would rather keep Cosh or Hayes
Its not like we couldn't change our mind. I just want a good d-cord.
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Would Leavitt even be a good d-coordinator for us? I mean, he hasn't really been a DC in a long ass time. And did he ever recruit Texas from USF?
:frown:
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If Leavitt wants HCIW I would rather keep Cosh or Hayes
Its not like we couldn't change our mind. I just want a good d-cord.
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Would Leavitt even be a good d-coordinator for us? I mean, he hasn't really been a DC in a long ass time. And did he ever recruit Texas from USF?
:frown:
I think his name recognition will make him a better recruiter than just about any other realistic alternative that LHC Bill Snyder might actually go out and hire.
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I guess. Sheesh.
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If Leavitt wants HCIW I would rather keep Cosh or Hayes
Its not like we couldn't change our mind. I just want a good d-cord.
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Would Leavitt even be a good d-coordinator for us? I mean, he hasn't really been a DC in a long ass time. And did he ever recruit Texas from USF?
:frown:
Good point, let's get Brooks Barta from Holton. Heard he turned that HS around and he has a defensive mindset... [tucksinshirt] :ksu:
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I guess. Sheesh.
:frown:
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I think his name recognition will make him a better recruiter than just about any other realistic alternative that LHC LHC Bill Snyder might actually go out and hire.
Recruiting is easy, with effort.
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I think his name recognition will make him a better recruiter than just about any other realistic alternative that LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder might actually go out and hire.
Recruiting is easy, with effort.
& a brain*.
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Leavitt as DC, absolutely.
Leavitt as HCIW, I go back and forth on it.
On one hand, it would allow a seamless transition from the current regime, meaning that our chances of continuing positive momentum are higher. It decreases risk that we'll strike out on a hire, and increases the chance we'll still have a solid program for a number of years.
On the other hand, I'd like to see what Schulz and Currie could do with a football coaching search that started from square one.
Personally, at this point, I'm just hoping for Ekeler to fill the void. Make him Co-DC with Hayes.
Also, if anyone thinks he wouldn't come to KSU as a Co-DC, remember that he's currently at Indiana, and that's about as shitty a BCS job as one can ever get.
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The only way Crash comes to KSU is with Pelini's blessing, which isn't likely. For some reason Ekeler respects that racist dildo's opinion.
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They don't even work together anymore.
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They don't even work together anymore.
Yeah, I didn't get that either
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Leavitt as DC, absolutely.
Leavitt as HCIW, I go back and forth on it.
On one hand, it would allow a seamless transition from the current regime, meaning that our chances of continuing positive momentum are higher. It decreases risk that we'll strike out on a hire, and increases the chance we'll still have a solid program for a number of years.
On the other hand, I'd like to see what Schulz and Currie could do with a football coaching search that started from square one.
Personally, at this point, I'm just hoping for Ekeler to fill the void. Make him Co-DC with Hayes.
Also, if anyone thinks he wouldn't come to KSU as a Co-DC, remember that he's currently at Indiana, and that's about as shitty a BCS job as one can ever get.
Leavitt isn't coming back to Kansas, period. I wish he would, but word is that he's comfy in Florida, and comfy working for Harbaugh.
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The only way Crash comes to KSU is with Pelini's blessing, which isn't likely. For some reason Ekeler respects that racist dildo's opinion.
The only way Crash comes to KSU is with Pelini's blessing, which isn't likely. For some reason Ekeler respects that racist dildo's opinion.
lol and venzy has an unmentionable sin
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Leavitt as DC, absolutely.
Leavitt as HCIW, I go back and forth on it.
On one hand, it would allow a seamless transition from the current regime, meaning that our chances of continuing positive momentum are higher. It decreases risk that we'll strike out on a hire, and increases the chance we'll still have a solid program for a number of years.
On the other hand, I'd like to see what Schulz and Currie could do with a football coaching search that started from square one.
Personally, at this point, I'm just hoping for Ekeler to fill the void. Make him Co-DC with Hayes.
Also, if anyone thinks he wouldn't come to KSU as a Co-DC, remember that he's currently at Indiana, and that's about as shitty a BCS job as one can ever get.
Leavitt isn't coming back to Kansas, period. I wish he would, but word is that he's comfy in Florida, and comfy working for Harbaugh.
Who wouldn't love San Francisco, Florida? We have no chance. :bawl:
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I'm hearing a lot of ITK thus far on THE gopowercat podcast starting at 14:30.
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I'm hearing a lot of ITK thus far on THE gopowercat podcast starting at 14:30.
I listened to that. Am I ITK now?
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They don't even work together anymore.
Doesn't mean Eckeler stopped having his love affair with Bo.
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I'm hearing a lot of ITK thus far on THE gopowercat podcast starting at 14:30.
I listened to that. Am I ITK now?
Only if you fast-forwarded to 44:11.
***SPOILER ALERT****
DJamer Deep Throat's ITK was "where there's smoke, there's fire."
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I'm hearing a lot of ITK thus far on THE gopowercat podcast starting at 14:30.
I'm not ITK :( what are they saying?
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I'm hearing a lot of ITK thus far on THE gopowercat podcast starting at 14:30.
I'm not ITK :( what are they saying?
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Part 1: Rob broke the "Cosh to USF" story before KSU wanted it broke, but too bad, we're journalists and that's what we do.
Part 2: Rob - BV rumors are fake. DJDT - Smoke=Fire. FITZ - I know but won't say.
#ITK
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BOOM, Can someone mod me to add #ITK under my username?
:gocho:
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I'm hearing a lot of ITK thus far on THE gopowercat podcast starting at 14:30.
I'm not ITK :( what are they saying?
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Part 1: Rob broke the "Cosh to USF" story before KSU wanted it broke, but too bad, we're journalists and that's what we do.
Part 2: Rob - BV rumors are fake. DJDT - Smoke=Fire. FITZ - I know but won't say.
#ITK
"Unsolved Mysteries" music playing in the background.
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I'm hearing a lot of ITK thus far on THE gopowercat podcast starting at 14:30.
I'm not ITK :( what are they saying?
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Part 1: Rob broke the "Cosh to USF" story before KSU wanted it broke, but too bad, we're journalists and that's what we do.
Part 2: Rob - BV rumors are fake. DJDT - Smoke=Fire. FITZ - I know but won't say.
#ITK
LOL. What a bunch of clowns. Other than Cassidy, of course.
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A lil OT, but:
Indianapolis Colts: Assistant offensive line coach Ron Prince will not return.
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who is DJDT
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who is DJDT
doesn't matter. He's clearly ITK, and you are now as well. :gocho:
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who is DJDT
DJamer Deep Throat
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Diamond Jeans Daniel Thomas.
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Leavitt as DC, absolutely.
Leavitt as HCIW, I go back and forth on it.
On one hand, it would allow a seamless transition from the current regime, meaning that our chances of continuing positive momentum are higher. It decreases risk that we'll strike out on a hire, and increases the chance we'll still have a solid program for a number of years.
On the other hand, I'd like to see what Schulz and Currie could do with a football coaching search that started from square one.
Personally, at this point, I'm just hoping for Ekeler to fill the void. Make him Co-DC with Hayes.
Also, if anyone thinks he wouldn't come to KSU as a Co-DC, remember that he's currently at Indiana, and that's about as shitty a BCS job as one can ever get.
Leavitt isn't coming back to Kansas, period. I wish he would, but word is that he's comfy in Florida, and comfy working for Harbaugh.
Who wouldn't love San Francisco, Florida? We have no chance. :bawl:
The beaches and proximity to South Beach are definitely tough to top, but the earthquakes and Dolphins kind of suck.
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A lil OT, but:
Indianapolis Colts: Assistant offensive line coach Ron Prince will not return.
Don't worry about OT, everything goes in one big master topic these days. :flush:
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Is Billy Bob and old man Hayes official yet?
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:popcorn:
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well all just die when we all here these words, " Bob Elliott. has returned the coach the wildcat defense" :curse:
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well all just die when we all here these words, " Bob Elliott. has returned the coach the wildcat defense" :curse:
I believe he just got hired as safeties coach at notre dame.
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I just about died trying to decipher that post.
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I just about died trying to decipher that post.
I've spent the last several weeks reading pigaggy posts.
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Kansas State: We hear that Air Force defensive coordinator Matt Wallerstedt will interview for the defensive coordinator position.
:dunno:
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No sense in making a splash with the hire.
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I would be satisfied with that. Not happy like I was with Venzy, but he's solid.
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sigh, will take
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I guess.
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when in doubt, go with a manhattan high grad. :thumbsup:
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sigh, will take
Leavitt isn't doing thing for the next few weeks....
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plus, he is a LB guy which is a hole we need to fill. has done well at AFA.
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He's a good hire. Just not the good hires we wanted. Miles ahead of billy bob and hayes, though.
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he's not super old
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plus, he is a LB guy which is a hole we need to fill. has done well at AFA.
Is he still pissed about Ron 3-2'ing his wife?
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This would be a much better hire than I thought we would be able to pull off.
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wally loves k-state/manhattan, absolutely hated prince
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wally loves k-state/manhattan, absolutely hated prince
sounds like a good fit. . .
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sigh, will take
i would have just stuck with the "sigh".
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Kansas State: We hear that Air Force defensive coordinator Matt Wallerstedt will interview for the defensive coordinator position.
:dunno:
am I the only one that has a blind hatred for any and all coaches that were on Princes staff? Really don't care to see any of them back here ever again. :shakesfist:
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Kansas State: We hear that Air Force defensive coordinator Matt Wallerstedt will interview for the defensive coordinator position.
:dunno:
am I the only one that has a blind hatred for any and all coaches that were on Princes staff? Really don't care to see any of them back here ever again. :shakesfist:
no, tons of old dumbasses have that same blind hatred.
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He's a good hire. Just not the good hires we wanted. Miles ahead of billy bob and hayes, though.
He's a solid double to the gap. Not a home run, but better than your average base hit.
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Didn't Coffeeville have a perty good defense last year? What's that ole boys name what ran their defense? You could probably grab that without having to open the purse strings too much.
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Kansas State: We hear that Air Force defensive coordinator Matt Wallerstedt will interview for the defensive coordinator position.
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am I the only one that has a blind hatred for any and all coaches that were on Princes staff? Really don't care to see any of them back here ever again. :shakesfist:
I still like Morris, Franklin, Wallerstedt, Horton, and probably more.
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i wish we could hire the prince guy with the weird eye. would take, definitely would take.
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base hit, his defenses have not been very good the last two years. But at least he has experience and having kstaters is a plus IMO.
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base hit, his defenses have not been very good the last two years. But at least he has experience and having kstaters is a plus IMO.
You realize that he does this with kids that go to the Air Force Academy, right? They don't actually "recruit" for football. They recruit football players that want to kill people with jets.
Wallerstedt's defense was outstanding last year, finishing third in the conference in scoring (21.1) and fourth in total defense (349.3). The group was second in the MWC and nationally in passing defense with a 147.8 norm.
He was also instrumental in developing one of the top defenses in Air Force history in 2009. The team led the conference and ranked fifth nationally in pass defense with a 154.3 mark. The unit was second in the MWC and 11th in the nation in total defense allowing just 288.3 yards per game. The team was second in the MWC and 10th nationally in scoring defense with a 15.7 norm, which is the best mark in school history since 1998. The defense also scored five touchdowns in 2009.
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Not mad at a Wallerstedt hire - but I think it's right there with a Jim Leavitt with no HCIW promise. I'd be content with either. Light years better than Cosh.
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Yeah, AFA played a pretty rough schedule, too. TCU, Boise, BYU, Notre Dame.
My only question is if we would run the 3-4 he runs now.
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Yeah, AFA played a pretty rough schedule, too. TCU, Boise, BYU, Notre Dame.
My only question is if we would run the 3-4 he runs now.
I really hope not. Hate 3-4, although that is only because I associate it with our awful defenses under RP.
We did run a 3-4 under RP for a year or two, right?
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He's a good hire. Just not the good hires we wanted. Miles ahead of billy bob and hayes, though.
He's a solid double to the gap. Not a home run, but better than your average base hit.
So he's our Billy Butler? I'm ok with that, would be a good hire. Just not the excitement I was hoping for either.
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I'd say Wallerstedt would be a very good hire. Not Leavitt/Venzy, but not a huge drop either. Plus, I like that he has pretty good special teams experience, which could be a help to the current guy.
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I'd say Wallerstedt would be a very good hire. Not Leavitt/Venzy, but not a huge drop either. Plus, I like that he has pretty good special teams experience, which could be a help to the current guy.
He wasn't a horrible recruiter, either.
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I'd say Wallerstedt would be a very good hire. Not Leavitt/Venzy, but not a huge drop either. Plus, I like that he has pretty good special teams experience, which could be a help to the current guy.
He wasn't a horrible recruiter, either.
Who did he bring in?
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I'd say Wallerstedt would be a very good hire. Not Leavitt/Venzy, but not a huge drop either. Plus, I like that he has pretty good special teams experience, which could be a help to the current guy.
He wasn't a horrible recruiter, either.
Who did he bring in?
Let me rephrase that. Compared to who we have now, he wasn't horrible.
I know he brought in Alesana Squared, Deon Murphy, and a few other guys. He was the recruiting coordinator in 2006, too. I just remember his name being attached to several different guys, but Rivals doesn't show it.
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Kansas State: We hear that Air Force defensive coordinator Matt Wallerstedt will interview for the defensive coordinator position.
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am I the only one that has a blind hatred for any and all coaches that were on Princes staff? Really don't care to see any of them back here ever again. :shakesfist:
no, tons of old dumbasses have that same blind hatred.
I am old and a dumbass so it is good to see I'm agreeing with my demographic.
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Yeah, AFA played a pretty rough schedule, too. TCU, Boise, BYU, Notre Dame.
My only question is if we would run the 3-4 he runs now.
I really hope not. Hate 3-4, although that is only because I associate it with our awful defenses under RP.
We did run a 3-4 under RP for a year or two, right?
We did and count me as one that hopes we don't try to run a 3-4 unless someone can convince me we can get the DL needed to run it.
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wally loves k-state/manhattan, absolutely hated prince
Sweet. We want people that WANT to be here.
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Did Wally run the 3-4 at AFA?
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Did Wally run the 3-4 at AFA?
Yes.
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can't wait to call him lollerstadt when his defense doesn't improve.
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Anyone who bailed on Ron sounds good to me. Too bad Raheem is too big timey (also probably hates manhattan).
I am enthused about Wally but will melt down if he tries to run a 3-4 again.
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Yes, I am sure better players mean every defense is better but it is hard enough for KSU-type programs to find two 300ish bodies that can play, let alone three with one being a immovable object at the nose.
Hell, Saban's 3-4 at Alabama uses a 6-2, 265 linebacker/DE hybrid - most of our DE's are lighter than that
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Yes, I am sure better players mean every defense is better but it is hard enough for KSU-type programs to find two 300ish bodies that can play, let alone three with one being a immovable object at the nose.
Hell, Saban's 3-4 at Alabama uses a 6-2, 265 linebacker/DE hybrid - most of our DE's are lighter than that
NFL teams struggle to find the personnel to run it.
It's the greatest defense, theoretically, but finding one that works is like hunting down a white tiger.
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Yes, I am sure better players mean every defense is better but it is hard enough for KSU-type programs to find two 300ish bodies that can play, let alone three with one being a immovable object at the nose.
Hell, Saban's 3-4 at Alabama uses a 6-2, 265 linebacker/DE hybrid - most of our DE's are lighter than that
This.
3-4 defenses don't work in college, except at places like LSU and Alabama.
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Yes, I am sure better players mean every defense is better but it is hard enough for KSU-type programs to find two 300ish bodies that can play, let alone three with one being a immovable object at the nose.
Hell, Saban's 3-4 at Alabama uses a 6-2, 265 linebacker/DE hybrid - most of our DE's are lighter than that
This.
3-4 defenses don't work in college, except at places like LSU and Alabama.
Places that can pull in those giant dlinemen from the south.
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a Colorado Springs radio station is allegedly claiming it's Wally
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Golly Gee.
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Yep. Much better than promotion from within.
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absolutely could be worse. so there's that.
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Just looked at Wally's bio, didn't know/remember he was at Wyoming under Dimel.
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No better than Hayes/Joe Bob/GA promotion.
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No better than Hayes/Joe Bob/GA promotion.
you're trying to hard to michigancat here imo
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No better than Hayes/Joe Bob/GA promotion.
you're trying to hard to michigancat here imo
Yeah, if it wasn't better than promoting one of them, then they would have just promoted one of them.
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absolutely could be worse. so there's that.
all a part of bill's plan. threaten us with sean, bring in someone else mediocre, then watch as all of k-state nation breathes a sigh of relief.
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i wish we could hire the prince guy with the weird eye. would take, definitely would take.
Nice. Not sure if already posted, but Purdue just snatched Timmy up.
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Really swung for the fences on this one.
In the end, not great, not abjectly horrendous. Just a nice middle of the road, don't rock the boat on the calm waters kind of move.
That's K-State football V2.0.
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No better than Hayes/Joe Bob/GA promotion.
you're trying to hard to michigancat here imo
I'm serious. What makes this better? People generally agree that Hayes did a decent job w/ DB's and has coordinated defenses before. One positive about hiring a GA is it would likely give us a staff member under the age of 40.
I am more saying a Hayes/Joe Bob combo wouldn't be as bad as you think than I am saying the Wallerstedt hire is bad.
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Really swung for the fences on this one.
In the end, not great, not abjectly horrendous. Just a nice middle of the road, don't rock the boat on the calm waters kind of move.
That's K-State football V2.0.
Good summation.
He's not a worthless coach we threw an unnecessary AHC title on and gave way more money than he deserved.
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kind of surprised that dimel is assembling his staff when he's not even technically head coach yet.
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No better than Hayes/Joe Bob/GA promotion.
you're trying to hard to michigancat here imo
I'm serious. What makes this better? People generally agree that Hayes did a decent job w/ DB's and has coordinated defenses before. One positive about hiring a GA is it would likely give us a staff member under the age of 40.
I am more saying a Hayes/Joe Bob combo wouldn't be as bad as you think than I am saying the Wallerstedt hire is bad.
I have no information here, but I'm just wondering if we don't see a Co-DC tag on Wally and Hayes. Hayes was already passing game coordinator, or something like that, so it would make sense. Wally would come back here for Co-DC. He's from Manhattan, full EMAW, and he loved it here for those couple of years (save working for Prince). I'm just saying that assuming he's the sole DC may be presumptuous. Snyder usually likes to have Co-Coordinators no matter what.
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kind of surprised that dimel is assembling his staff when he's not even technically head coach yet.
Are we really thinking there's more than a 5% chance that would even happen?
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kind of surprised that dimel is assembling his staff when he's not even technically head coach yet.
Are we really thinking there's more than a 5% chance that would even happen?
why wouldn't we? People will want to hire from within when Snyder leaves and Dimel would have to be the top of the heap from that group.
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kind of surprised that dimel is assembling his staff when he's not even technically head coach yet.
Starting to think there's some smoke to this fire.
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No better than Hayes/Joe Bob/GA promotion.
you're trying to hard to michigancat here imo
I'm serious. What makes this better? People generally agree that Hayes did a decent job w/ DB's and has coordinated defenses before. One positive about hiring a GA is it would likely give us a staff member under the age of 40.
I am more saying a Hayes/Joe Bob combo wouldn't be as bad as you think than I am saying the Wallerstedt hire is bad.
it's better because we still have those guys you listed, this guy isn't very old either and, most importantly, this guy has a ton more experience (having some actual middling success at the coaching position we would be hiring him for) than any GA we would promote. also, we need a LB coach with Cosh's exit and he fills that hole. it's better.
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kind of surprised that dimel is assembling his staff when he's not even technically head coach yet.
Are we really thinking there's more than a 5% chance that would even happen?
yes, much higher than that...
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kind of surprised that dimel is assembling his staff when he's not even technically head coach yet.
Are we really thinking there's more than a 5% chance that would even happen?
why wouldn't we? People will want to hire from within when Snyder leaves and Dimel would have to be the top of the heap from that group.
It depends on who you mean by "people". If by most ignorant fans, sure. However, if "people" means an athletic director, I doubt he gets more than a cursory interview.
People have Google. They can see the dumpster fire he left for Briles.
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kind of surprised that dimel is assembling his staff when he's not even technically head coach yet.
Are we really thinking there's more than a 5% chance that would even happen?
yes, much higher than that...
You're raining on my parade today, steve dave.
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grumblings Wally may have-interviewed/be-interviewing at another BCS school (possibly ASU) and we may get passed over anyway
:frown: michigancat may yet get his dream internal hire
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grumblings Wally may have-interviewed/be-interviewing at another BCS school (possibly ASU) and we may get passed over anyway
:frown: michigancat may yet get his dream internal hire
sigh, fybs
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kind of surprised that dimel is assembling his staff when he's not even technically head coach yet.
Are we really thinking there's more than a 5% chance that would even happen?
yes, much higher than that...
I'd bet closer to 50%
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Sounds like we could have had our HR hire but JC called and bunt with the bases loaded in the bottom of the 10th behind by 1 run. FYJC
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Sounds like we could have had our HR hire but JC called and bunt with the bases loaded in the bottom of the 10th behind by 1 run. FYJC
I really hate the riddles, guys.
If what you're saying is that Currie nixed the hire of Leavitt because we wouldn't hire him as HCIW, then Currie deserves a six figure raise.
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Sounds like we could have had our HR hire but JC called and bunt with the bases loaded in the bottom of the 10th behind by 1 run. FYJC
I really hate the riddles, guys.
If what you're saying is that Currie nixed the hire of Leavitt because we wouldn't hire him as HCIW, then Currie deserves a six figure raise.
yes, that would have been a good move by currie if he had made it
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Sounds like we could have had our HR hire but JC called and bunt with the bases loaded in the bottom of the 10th behind by 1 run. FYJC
I really hate the riddles, guys.
If what you're saying is that Currie nixed the hire of Leavitt because we wouldn't hire him as HCIW, then Currie deserves a six figure raise.
yes, that would have been a good move by currie if he had made it
If someone is saying Currie nixed Venables, he should be fired.
I'm going to keep guessing until someone tells me whether I'm right or wrong.
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It looks as if Leavitt's push to return to Manhattan was rebuffed. I'm not sure at what level, but I am confident he wanted to return. That brings us to reports that the next DC is going to be Matt Wallerstedt. That appears to be premature. It seems to be down to Wallerstedt and Tom Hayes, but Wally might have another DC offer from a BCS school. Don't be surprised if the defensive coordinator spot is filled with an internal hire. I will let you know more when I get more info.
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It looks as if Leavitt's push to return to Manhattan was rebuffed. I'm not sure at what level, but I am confident he wanted to return. That brings us to reports that the next DC is going to be Matt Wallerstedt. That appears to be premature. It seems to be down to Wallerstedt and Tom Hayes, but Wally might have another DC offer from a BCS school. Don't be surprised if the defensive coordinator spot is filled with an internal hire. I will let you know more when I get more info.
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yeah. fitz really has the tucks/every ksu fan in a firestorm with that one.
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It looks as if Leavitt's push to return to Manhattan was rebuffed. I'm not sure at what level, but I am confident he wanted to return. That brings us to reports that the next DC is going to be Matt Wallerstedt. That appears to be premature. It seems to be down to Wallerstedt and Tom Hayes, but Wally might have another DC offer from a BCS school. Don't be surprised if the defensive coordinator spot is filled with an internal hire. I will let you know more when I get more info.
Thanks for reading Fitz.
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Why would Leavitt want to come back? Seriously? He wasn't going to be the head coach here, so what's the point?
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Why would Leavitt want to come back? Seriously? He wasn't going to be the head coach here, so what's the point?
the question is who in the eff is rebuffing him?
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This is great. Unsubstantiated of course, but great.
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Not much info is coming out of the coaching search but I have talked to a few people that know a little. A coach at a different school said he is hearing that LHCBS really wants Sean to take over so he does not want to hire anyone that may get in the way of that plan. I have also heard from someone else that Currie is well aware of this and has said that if LHCBS does step down, he will be one making the hire. That said Levitt did have some interest but does not want to be tied down incase something comes up before Coach retires. Sounds like he wants the head job or to stay where he is for now. (doesn't want any HCIW titles)
I have a bad feeling that a power struggle in the future may happen. I have not heard of any friction between Currie and Coach so that is not what I am trying to say, only that Coach has a plan and our AD has a plan. Not sure they are same plan and to tell you the truth Sean taking over scares the crap out of me.
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This is great. Unsubstantiated of course, but great.
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Not much info is coming out of the coaching search but I have talked to a few people that know a little. A coach at a different school said he is hearing that LHCBS really wants Sean to take over so he does not want to hire anyone that may get in the way of that plan. I have also heard from someone else that Currie is well aware of this and has said that if LHCBS does step down, he will be one making the hire. That said Levitt did have some interest but does not want to be tied down incase something comes up before Coach retires. Sounds like he wants the head job or to stay where he is for now. (doesn't want any HCIW titles)
I have a bad feeling that a power struggle in the future may happen. I have not heard of any friction between Currie and Coach so that is not what I am trying to say, only that Coach has a plan and our AD has a plan. Not sure they are same plan and to tell you the truth Sean taking over scares the crap out of me.
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An occasional nugget falls my way every once in a while, but this is in line with what I heard.
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The real question is why do I even still care?
I mean, JFC Bill...
Bill is gonna treat this like his own personal game of The Apprentice, only no one gets fired.
We all know it and yet it still makes me mad.
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We would be better off trying to patch things up with Prince than hiring Sean.
I mean, we could always fire Ron. If bill has the pull to get Sean in the door, does anyone actually think he doesn't have the pull to keep him there?
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Currie isn't going to let Bill dictate crap. I can assure you of that.
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Come on Bill.
You won 10 games.
A lot of people came on board back to liking you again.
Even thinking (again) that you are a football savant.
Why do this?
Why?
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Come on Bill.
You won 10 games.
A lot of people came on board back to liking you again.
Even thinking (again) that you are a football savant.
Why do this?
Why?
I'm going with "Cats in the Cradle" guilt.
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Not much info is coming out of the coaching search but I have talked to a few people that know a little. A coach at a different school said he is hearing that LHCBS really wants Sean to take over so he does not want to hire anyone that may get in the way of that plan. I have also heard from someone else that Currie is well aware of this and has said that if LHCBS does step down, he will be one making the hire. That said Levitt did have some interest but does not want to be tied down incase something comes up before Coach retires. Sounds like he wants the head job or to stay where he is for now. (doesn't want any HCIW titles)
I have a bad feeling that a power struggle in the future may happen. I have not heard of any friction between Currie and Coach so that is not what I am trying to say, only that Coach has a plan and our AD has a plan. Not sure they are same plan and to tell you the truth Sean taking over scares the crap out of me.
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An occasional nugget falls my way every once in a while, but this is in line with what I heard.
It's just a different version of what we have been saying for over a year. Even before Sean was promoted the core ITK'ers on here reported Snyder has designs that Sean will someday be head coach for KSU. To extrapolate that Leavitt has no interest in stepping in that pile of cow flop doesn't take much.
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Currie isn't going to let Bill dictate crap. I can assure you of that.
It's a Mexican standoff, but the question is who will be here longer? Bill or John?
I'm not comfortable answering that question.
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And, its not just Leavitt that won't step in that crap, it's anyone with other options and a brain.
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I'm going with "Cats in the Cradle" guilt.
I mean Bill knows football. Like really knows it. And still knows it well enough to win.
He's got to know that his son is not a head coach. Coordinating special teams has been a stretch.
Bill. Please.
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Not much info is coming out of the coaching search but I have talked to a few people that know a little. A coach at a different school said he is hearing that LHCBS really wants Sean to take over so he does not want to hire anyone that may get in the way of that plan. I have also heard from someone else that Currie is well aware of this and has said that if LHCBS does step down, he will be one making the hire. That said Levitt did have some interest but does not want to be tied down incase something comes up before Coach retires. Sounds like he wants the head job or to stay where he is for now. (doesn't want any HCIW titles)
I have a bad feeling that a power struggle in the future may happen. I have not heard of any friction between Currie and Coach so that is not what I am trying to say, only that Coach has a plan and our AD has a plan. Not sure they are same plan and to tell you the truth Sean taking over scares the crap out of me.
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An occasional nugget falls my way every once in a while, but this is in line with what I heard.
It's just a different version of what we have been saying for over a year. Even before Sean was promoted the core ITK'ers on here reported Snyder has designs that Sean will someday be head coach for KSU. To extrapolate that Leavitt has no interest in stepping in that pile of cow flop doesn't take much.
True, but I'm just saying that I have heard the same thing, and I obviously have a different channel than you do. So, I'm confirming your ITK'ers.
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Currie isn't going to let Bill dictate crap. I can assure you of that.
It's a Mexican standoff, but the question is who will be here longer? Bill or John?
I'm not comfortable answering that question.
Guys, a rape enabler dies this week and the world forgets flaws and dictates his sainthood to all that will listen. Bill's plan is to die in office. Tucks will do the same for him and currie will not be able to mexican stand off against the tuck memory of a recently passed LHC Bill Snyder.
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I hate him.
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I hate it when they call Snyder "Coach" for some reason.
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I'm going with "Cats in the Cradle" guilt.
I mean Bill knows football. Like really knows it. And still knows it well enough to win.
He's got to know that his son is not a head coach. Coordinating special teams has been a stretch.
Bill. Please.
Bill also thinks that he can make coaches better, hence never firing them. Just another year and he may be ready.....(bill's inner monologue)
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I'm going with "Cats in the Cradle" guilt.
I mean Bill knows football. Like really knows it. And still knows it well enough to win.
He's got to know that his son is not a head coach. Coordinating special teams has been a stretch.
Bill. Please.
He cried at his retirement press conference, not because he was quitting, but because he felt bad for being an absentee father.
Look, I'm not Sigmund Freud, but my Gen Psych course taught me that this is probably a part of it.
He's handing over the family business to his son. How many fathers dream of that? If I had my own business, I'd probably want one of my sons to take it over, too.
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I suspect that KSUADJC has the full support of KSUPKS.
I believe that both of them tolerate LHC Bill Snyder and will allow LHC Bill Snyder to coach K-State for as long as he wants and is doing well. But there's no way in the world (IMO) that they're going to allow Snyder to install Sean has his successor . . . it would take an absolute revolt by all the big donors for there to be a chance on that (IMO) and I'd like to believe that our major donors aren't that tuck. If the tuck turns, then Currie is gone, and don't be too surprised if UPKS isn't far behind him . . . yes, it's that big (IMO).
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I suspect that KSUADJC has the full support of KSUPKS.
I believe that both of them tolerate LHC LHC Bill Snyder and will allow LHC LHC Bill Snyder to coach K-State for as long as he wants and is doing well. But there's no way in the world (IMO) that they're going to allow Snyder to install Sean has his successor . . . it would take an absolute revolt by all the big donors for there to be a chance on that (IMO) and I'd like to believe that our major donors aren't that tuck. If the tuck turns, then Currie is gone, and don't be too surprised if UPKS isn't far behind him . . . yes, it's that big (IMO).
I think the buck stops with Currie. It's hard to get a good UP gig. They're like professional sports GM positions. You take one when you can get one and you hold onto it unless the Yankees come calling.
I can see Snyder drive away Currie, but not Schulz.
Schulz runs this place like a boss.
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Let's not forget the Pat Bosco factor here folks. Let's not forget it for a second.
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next year the smoke will blow away from the mirrors and there will be no way people will accept Sean under any circumstances.
Hate to say it, but it's true.
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I really don't get how he thinks he could get away with it. It's a HUGE stretch to have him as a ST "coach".
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next year the smoke will blow away from the mirrors and there will be no way people will accept Sean under any circumstances.
Hate to say it, but it's true.
I don't think that happens next year. As long as we win 8 or more, he is good to go.
Also, don't worry about WCU or TCU making a diff. Tuck's love their excuses.
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As long as we win 8 or more, he is good to go.
we won't win 8.
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Hierarchy cleared up:
LHC Bill Snyder - Head Coach
Chris Cosh - Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator
Sean Snyder - Associate Head Coach/Special Teams Coordinator
Obviously the only way Bill would ask someone to leave.
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The real question is who will outlast who.
Because if Currie is still in place at the time of Snyder's second retirement, I have no doubt whatsoever in my belief that he will make his own hire. Does anyone really think he's not absolutely salivating for the opportunity? For a ladder climber like Currie, hiring his own guy is one of the biggest moves he can make for his resume and he is not going to sit around and let Sean Snyder run the ship aground.
My only concern is how long he'll be here. If Snyder plays the game, Currie departs and another yes man like Tim Weiser takes the job, this is how Sean Snyder takes the reigns.
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As long as we win 8 or more, he is good to go.
we won't win 8.
After this year, it certainly seems feasible.
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What did ea-cat email currie regarding leavitt? I need some entertainment.
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As long as we win 8 or more, he is good to go.
we won't win 8.
i hope this works as well as it did this time last year!
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The Animal hired Currie. I am not worried about Currie leaving. #tehanimal
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IMO among the grass roots, Currie has a lot of equity. Is that enough?
I mean once you get past the Vaniers, do the Borcks of the world, do the Jim Johnson's of the world have any say? Do they have any thoughts? Do they care? All the suites in the West Stadium Center are sold out apparently, that's 40 parties throwing around some big dollars, certainly they have some influence . . . do they want Sean, have they even thought about it?
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IMO among the grass roots, Currie has a lot of equity. Is that enough?
I mean once you get past the Vaniers, do the Borcks of the world, do the Jim Johnson's of the world have any say? Do they have any thoughts? Do they care? All the suites in the West Stadium Center are sold out apparently, that's 40 parties throwing around some big dollars, certainly they have some influence . . . do they want Sean, have they even thought about it?
rusty, read this in hipster run-off's voice
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LOL
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wut
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wut
it wasn't a shot at you or your post.
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I know.
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If sean is the next in line to be HC then my suicide watch just started... :goodbyecruelworld:
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If sean is the next in line to be HC then my suicide watch just started... :goodbyecruelworld:
Don't do it. This will only make Sean stronger. Remember the mason...
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next year the smoke will blow away from the mirrors and there will be no way people will accept Sean under any circumstances.
Hate to say it, but it's true.
If you just keep saying this before every season eventually you will likely be right and then you can strut around and tell everyone "SEE, I WAS RIGHT! I TOLD YOU SO!" This plan has "winner" written all over it.
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I think K-State and the Chiefs are going after the same guy for DC.
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The real question is who will outlast who.
Because if Currie is still in place at the time of Snyder's second retirement, I have no doubt whatsoever in my belief that he will make his own hire. Does anyone really think he's not absolutely salivating for the opportunity? For a ladder climber like Currie, hiring his own guy is one of the biggest moves he can make for his resume and he is not going to sit around and let Sean Snyder run the ship aground.
My only concern is how long he'll be here. If Snyder plays the game, Currie departs and another yes man like Tim Weiser takes the job, this is how Sean Snyder takes the reigns.
To believe this you would have to believe that UPKS would fail misearably in his hiring of a DC. I have more faith in him than that. Any DC with any confidence in himself will make his OWN hire, even if it's completely shitty and stupid....several newly hired AD's have proven this to be true.
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reading on here is going to be amazing when sean is announced as the new DC...
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This is great. Unsubstantiated of course, but great.
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Not much info is coming out of the coaching search but I have talked to a few people that know a little. A coach at a different school said he is hearing that LHCBS really wants Sean to take over so he does not want to hire anyone that may get in the way of that plan. I have also heard from someone else that Currie is well aware of this and has said that if LHCBS does step down, he will be one making the hire. That said Levitt did have some interest but does not want to be tied down incase something comes up before Coach retires. Sounds like he wants the head job or to stay where he is for now. (doesn't want any HCIW titles)
I have a bad feeling that a power struggle in the future may happen. I have not heard of any friction between Currie and Coach so that is not what I am trying to say, only that Coach has a plan and our AD has a plan. Not sure they are same plan and to tell you the truth Sean taking over scares the crap out of me.
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An occasional nugget falls my way every once in a while, but this is in line with what I heard.
It's just a different version of what we have been saying for over a year. Even before Sean was promoted the core ITK'ers on here reported Snyder has designs that Sean will someday be head coach for KSU. To extrapolate that Leavitt has no interest in stepping in that pile of cow flop doesn't take much.
True, but I'm just saying that I have heard the same thing, and I obviously have a different channel than you do. So, I'm confirming your ITK'ers.
I take solace in the belief that in order for Bill to gain the amount of juice he needs to force Sean in, he will have to win us at least a Big 12 champy and/or a BCS game. Only then will the waters be calm enough to pass the reigns to his unproven son.
If he does this, I will dislike it but accept it for awhile.
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next year the smoke will blow away from the mirrors and there will be no way people will accept Sean under any circumstances.
Hate to say it, but it's true.
If you just keep saying this before every season eventually you will likely be right and then you can strut around and tell everyone "SEE, I WAS RIGHT! I TOLD YOU SO!" This plan has "winner" written all over it.
I didn't say it before this season.
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Won't ever happen. not worried.*
*not that I don't believe that snyder wants sean to take over. but no self respecting ad/president would accept it.
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Won't ever happen. not worried.*
*not that I don't believe that snyder wants sean to take over. but no self respecting ad/president would accept it.
this is exactly what makes this a non-issue. our pres and ad are solid.
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Even that you hint Currie might be more qualified to name a successor than Snyder is alarming.
-The Manhatter
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Even that you hint Currie might be more qualified to name a successor than Snyder is alarming.
-The Manhatter
Birdies tell me that ADJC is prepared to spend a right tidy sum for Snyder's successor.
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Even that you hint Currie might be more qualified to name a successor than Snyder is alarming.
-The Manhatter
Birdies tell me that ADJC is prepared to spend a right tidy sum for Snyder's successor.
If someone told me we would drop off a bit until Snyder retired, but was guaranteed a highly successful replacement, I would easily take it.
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:lol:
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So should I share information or not? I was under the impression that you folks paid for that kind of stuff. If you're just paying for the sheer awesome entertainment of the ostgame meltdowns, then I'll just sit back and watch the show too.
-fitz
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I hope you're all rough ridin' happy. You made Dax turn into the voice of reason in this thread. :runaway:
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Talks progressing between Arizona State and Air Force defensive coordinator Matt Wallerstedt to become ASU's defensive coordinator.
23 hours ago
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[losing horn noise from Price is Right]
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Talks progressing between Arizona State and Air Force defensive coordinator Matt Wallerstedt to become ASU's defensive coordinator.
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Crash Eckler it is! :ksu: firmly on board #teamcrash
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damn :frown:
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ASU is really getting the better of us.
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damn :frown:
meh! :thumbs:
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damn :frown:
meh! :thumbs:
#teamhayesjoebob
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michigancat gets his dream Hayes/JoeBob promotion hire :frown: Meanwhile, we need to find a GA that knows about LBs. Unfortunately, my direct interactions with former KSU LBs have shown that they are either complete dumbasses, likely to kill themselves or both.
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michigancat gets his dream Hayes/JoeBob promotion hire :frown: Meanwhile, we need to find a GA that knows about LBs. Unfortunately, my direct interactions with former KSU LBs have shown that they are either complete dumbasses, likely to kill themselves or both.
Didn't Hrebec just graduate?
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michigancat gets his dream Hayes/JoeBob promotion hire :frown: Meanwhile, we need to find a GA that knows about LBs. Unfortunately, my direct interactions with former KSU LBs have shown that they are either complete dumbasses, likely to kill themselves or both.
d00d on twitter last week was calling for Dat nguyen(SP?)
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So what we are learning is that Snyder thinks he has enough juice right now, after 10-3, to shove whoever he can scrape up down our throats as they prep for Sean to take over. As stated, I'd think he'd go after some real talent pretty hard at this moment in time to try and take the next step when then he would have the best chance to hand it to Sean. Promoting some old guys who cannot win a head-to-head recruiting battle sets it up for a .500 season and no chance of Sean getting a look.
I guess his plan is ahead of schedule. Kudos Bill.
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I guess his plan is ahead of schedule. Kudos Bill.
Your move, John.
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Wally,
Good luck looking for a new job in a year or two when Todd Graham splits from ASU.
Sincerely,
K State
P.S. Sorry about having to deal with Ron Prince. That one's on us
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I guess his plan is ahead of schedule. Kudos Bill.
Your move, John.
John may be happy saving some real $$ with this band of losers and preparing for the inevitable wind that blows all the smoke off the mirrors and Snyder feels some pressure which is when Snyder has shown he will inevitably have a quick onset of burning desire to see his family again and John can go chase his signature hire.
JMHO
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P.S. Sorry about having to deal with Ron Prince. That one's on us
Ron was a treasure. You bite your rough ridin' tongue.
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Wasn't Wallerstedt at Northern Alabama or something when Ron hired him? He should rough ridin' kiss the ground Prince walks on.
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Wasn't Wallerstedt at Northern Alabama or something when Ron hired him? He should rough ridin' kiss the ground Prince walks on.
not quite, but not far off
Air Force - Assoc. HC/Def. Coord/ILBs., 2010-Present
Air Force - Asst. HC/ILBs, 2008-09
Kansas State - Special Teams Coord., 2007
Kansas State - Recruiting Coord., 2006
Kansas State - Linebackers, 2006-07
Akron - Assoc. HC/ILBs/Special Teams, 2004-05
North Alabama - Defensive Coord./ILBs, 2003
Wyoming - Defensive Coord./ILBs, 2000-02
Wyoming - Defensive Line, 1997-99
Emporia State - Defensive Backs, 1996
Fort Hays State - Defensive Line, 1994-95
Arizona State - Graduate Asst./DL, 1989-90
Kansas State - Student Asst/DBs, 1988
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michigancat gets his dream Hayes/JoeBob promotion hire :frown: Meanwhile, we need to find a GA that knows about LBs. Unfortunately, my direct interactions with former KSU LBs have shown that they are either complete dumbasses, likely to kill themselves or both.
Didn't Hrebec just graduate?
pffft, Tate is going to be a Junior or Senior this coming year right?
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So what we are learning is that Snyder thinks he has enough juice right now, after 10-3, to shove whoever he can scrape up down our throats as they prep for Sean to take over. As stated, I'd think he'd go after some real talent pretty hard at this moment in time to try and take the next step when then he would have the best chance to hand it to Sean. Promoting some old guys who cannot win a head-to-head recruiting battle sets it up for a .500 season and no chance of Sean getting a look.
I guess his plan is ahead of schedule. Kudos Bill.
Captain Crap stated on this very forum months ago that there is no way Sean is going to be HC, so stop fretting.
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So what we are learning is that Snyder thinks he has enough juice right now, after 10-3, to shove whoever he can scrape up down our throats as they prep for Sean to take over. As stated, I'd think he'd go after some real talent pretty hard at this moment in time to try and take the next step when then he would have the best chance to hand it to Sean. Promoting some old guys who cannot win a head-to-head recruiting battle sets it up for a .500 season and no chance of Sean getting a look.
I guess his plan is ahead of schedule. Kudos Bill.
Captain Crap stated on this very forum months ago that there is no way Sean is going to be HC, so stop fretting.
my guess is CC is on #teamADJC, so his vision of the future may change is JC is no longer here
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michigancat gets his dream Hayes/JoeBob promotion hire :frown: Meanwhile, we need to find a GA that knows about LBs. Unfortunately, my direct interactions with former KSU LBs have shown that they are either complete dumbasses, likely to kill themselves or both.
Didn't Hrebec just graduate?
pffft, Tate is going to be a Junior or Senior this coming year right?
sophomore
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So, was Wallerstedt recruiting Pennel by chance?
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So what we are learning is that Snyder thinks he has enough juice right now, after 10-3, to shove whoever he can scrape up down our throats as they prep for Sean to take over. As stated, I'd think he'd go after some real talent pretty hard at this moment in time to try and take the next step when then he would have the best chance to hand it to Sean. Promoting some old guys who cannot win a head-to-head recruiting battle sets it up for a .500 season and no chance of Sean getting a look.
I guess his plan is ahead of schedule. Kudos Bill.
Captain Crap stated on this very forum months ago that there is no way Sean is going to be HC, so stop fretting.
I know that and I don't think so either.
My point is, I can see ADJC letting Bill wreck this thing over the next 2-3 years to assure there is no chance in hell that he can't run the entire old regime out. If ADJC forces or pressures Bill to bring in some young recruity type assistants then Bill can later say he is owed some latitiude. I can see ADJC not even touching the program's personnel for the next few years and just build up the infra structure so when Bill decides he needs to spend more time at home, ADJC can rightfully say Bill will have no say at all in replacements. Also, I think ADJC knows that this season was pretty close to Bill's ceiling so letting Bill list out in the calm waters for the next 3 seasons will give him back any and all power.
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One thing for sure, these developments are good for goEMAW business.
This is going to be a fascinating study . . . can't wait to see what Hayes/JoeBob/PromotedGA do on the defensive side of the ball.
Fantastic.
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Currie wins.
http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2012/01/27/kansas-states-new-defensive-coordinator-may-come-from-within-current-staff/
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Currie wins.
http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2012/01/27/kansas-states-new-defensive-coordinator-may-come-from-within-current-staff/
If Hayes, indeed, moves up to defensive coordinator, a source said two other defensive coaches will be reassigned to fill out the staff. The most likely scenario, a source said, will have Joe Bob Clements move from defensive ends to linebackers and defensive graduate assistant Blake Seiler become the defensive ends coach.
For Christ's sake, Bill, go hire a ****ing linebacker coach.
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Sean, you were an AA punter, you should easily be able to coach LBs. Del, you are now a defensive coach. Blake, congratulations, you now have a full time paying gig because I'm not wasting valuable film breaking down time to go out and hire someone qualified to fill the upper level positions.
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Welp, this coaching tree is about to go the way of the oaks at Toomer's Corner.
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jesus christ.
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our LBs are all going to be in three point stances wearing knee braces on both legs and these facemasks
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onlinesports.com%2Fimages%2Fcp-fb_1150445_a_x.gif&hash=7c3a2afe2f2d867b2e8bcc25f3686aa9b3680b31)
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I feel like this is worthy of a meltdown. woof.
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I want to say I'm not surprised. :sigh:
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I want to say I'm not surprised. :sigh:
we all knew this was what it would be. we all even said as much in this very thread. it still hurts though.
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lots of haters in this thread that know more about football than Coach.
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I think this all but assures we will have a Tanners in MHK within 1 year. :party:
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I want to say I'm not surprised. :sigh:
we all knew this was what it would be. we all even said as much in this very thread. it still hurts though.
Yeah, you just have that glimmer of hope...
maybe Venzy...
maybe Leavitt...
maybe Wally...
maybe...
welp...
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congrats michigancat, go have a party
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Shoot.
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I feel like this is worthy of a meltdown. woof.
oh it absolutely is. i haven't melted down about anything in about a year btw. no bball or fball game melt downs for me at all. not even the baylor bball game this year. but this is up there with giving tate a scholarship and sean a coaching position. just absolutely beyond belief. i mean the air force rough ridin' defensive coordinator is a god damn linebackers coach and grew up in the god damn town that you want him to move back to and played football at the god damn university that you want him to coach at and you can't rough ridin' get him to come and replace the defensive coordinator/linebackers coach that just left? it's rough ridin' airforce. the guy came here before for a rough ridin' linebackers coaching position. what the eff is happening? i mean honest to god just what the eff is going on?
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congrats michigancat, go have a party
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We knew this would happen.
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I feel like this is worthy of a meltdown. woof.
oh it absolutely is. i haven't melted down about anything in about a year btw. no bball or fball game melt downs for me at all. not even the baylor bball game this year. but this is up there with giving tate a scholarship and sean a coaching position. just absolutely beyond belief. i mean the air force rough ridin' defensive coordinator is a god damn linebackers coach and grew up in the god damn town that you want him to move back to and played football at the god damn university that you want him to coach at and you can't rough ridin' get him to come and replace the defensive coordinator/linebackers coach that just left? it's rough ridin' airforce. the guy came here before for a rough ridin' linebackers coaching position. what the eff is happening? i mean honest to god just what the eff is going on?
He went to ASU, didn't he? Little ole KSU can't compete with that.
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I feel like this is worthy of a meltdown. woof.
oh it absolutely is. i haven't melted down about anything in about a year btw. no bball or fball game melt downs for me at all. not even the baylor bball game this year. but this is up there with giving tate a scholarship and sean a coaching position. just absolutely beyond belief. i mean the air force rough ridin' defensive coordinator is a god damn linebackers coach and grew up in the god damn town that you want him to move back to and played football at the god damn university that you want him to coach at and you can't rough ridin' get him to come and replace the defensive coordinator/linebackers coach that just left? it's rough ridin' airforce. the guy came here before for a rough ridin' linebackers coaching position. what the eff is happening? i mean honest to god just what the eff is going on?
It is totally phenomenal in at least 30 different ways. Is also the beginning of the end, IMO.
Currie will get his hire in 3 years or less.
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The Manhatter
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Re: DC news from Kellis
ah, it looks like the "experts" with a wealth of knowledge and background on coaching hires have started to weigh in.
:lol:
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In all seriousness, why is Wallerstedt so much better? AFAIK, his only BCS experience is KSU under Prince. Flush.
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I feel like this is worthy of a meltdown. woof.
oh it absolutely is. i haven't melted down about anything in about a year btw. no bball or fball game melt downs for me at all. not even the baylor bball game this year. but this is up there with giving tate a scholarship and sean a coaching position. just absolutely beyond belief. i mean the air force rough ridin' defensive coordinator is a god damn linebackers coach and grew up in the god damn town that you want him to move back to and played football at the god damn university that you want him to coach at and you can't rough ridin' get him to come and replace the defensive coordinator/linebackers coach that just left? it's rough ridin' airforce. the guy came here before for a rough ridin' linebackers coaching position. what the eff is happening? i mean honest to god just what the eff is going on?
He went to ASU, didn't he? Little ole KSU can't compete with that.
not yet
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Just get us to a bowl game. That will make me happy from now until eternity.
Hire whoever is capable of doing that.
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I feel like this is worthy of a meltdown. woof.
oh it absolutely is. i haven't melted down about anything in about a year btw. no bball or fball game melt downs for me at all. not even the baylor bball game this year. but this is up there with giving tate a scholarship and sean a coaching position. just absolutely beyond belief. i mean the air force rough ridin' defensive coordinator is a god damn linebackers coach and grew up in the god damn town that you want him to move back to and played football at the god damn university that you want him to coach at and you can't rough ridin' get him to come and replace the defensive coordinator/linebackers coach that just left? it's rough ridin' airforce. the guy came here before for a rough ridin' linebackers coaching position. what the eff is happening? i mean honest to god just what the eff is going on?
He went to ASU, didn't he? Little ole KSU can't compete with that.
not yet
Just the possibility is an uphill battle, IMO. I mean they have palm trees there.
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I really wanted Ekeler.
But knew it was a pipe dream.
I mean how could we expect to attract a young DC with an excellent recruiting track record at Indiana to come back and coach for his alma mater! Indiana we're talking about here!
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In all seriousness, why is Wallerstedt so much better? AFAIK, his only BCS experience is KSU under Prince. Flush.
Because his hire would show at least some inclination to get some youth and outside perspective into the staff. He seems to be acknowledged as an up and comer, or at least a desirable coach. Instead, BS is doing exactly what led to his first retirement. Not capitalizing on success and promoting those that don't deserve promotion. We all assumed that BS pushed Cosh out but I doubt that is the case. I think Cosh fled like he does every job and Bill let him. Cosh could have stayed until Bill re-retired.
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It's all starting to feel familiar again.
Hiring coaches that Bill's familiar with and not really looking anywhere outside of the tree? Check.
Struggling to put together a 25 man recruiting class one weekend before signing day? Check.
We're just a couple of signing day decommits and a recruiting roundup showl with Fitz and Matt Wolters at Rusty's for this to feel like 2002 all over again.
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i wonder what dimel has against wally? :dunno:
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It's all starting to feel familiar again.
Hiring coaches that Bill's familiar with and not really looking anywhere outside of the tree? Check.
Struggling to put together a 25 man recruiting class one weekend before signing day? Check.
We're just a couple of signing day decommits and a recruiting roundup showl with Fitz and Matt Wolters at Rusty's for this to feel like 2002 all over again.
Yep. We're there.
Hoping everyone enjoyed the ever loving crap out of our Cotton Bowl.
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It's all starting to feel familiar again.
Hiring coaches that Bill's familiar with and not really looking anywhere outside of the tree? Check.
Struggling to put together a 25 man recruiting class one weekend before signing day? Check.
We're just a couple of signing day decommits and a recruiting roundup showl with Fitz and Matt Wolters at Rusty's for this to feel like 2002 all over again.
Yep. We're there.
Hoping everyone enjoyed the ever loving crap out of our Cotton Bowl.
Yes! We lost to the team that only lost to the two teams in the NCG! :ksu:
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I feel like this is worthy of a meltdown. woof.
oh it absolutely is. i haven't melted down about anything in about a year btw. no bball or fball game melt downs for me at all. not even the baylor bball game this year. but this is up there with giving tate a scholarship and sean a coaching position. just absolutely beyond belief. i mean the air force rough ridin' defensive coordinator is a god damn linebackers coach and grew up in the god damn town that you want him to move back to and played football at the god damn university that you want him to coach at and you can't rough ridin' get him to come and replace the defensive coordinator/linebackers coach that just left? it's rough ridin' airforce. the guy came here before for a rough ridin' linebackers coaching position. what the eff is happening? i mean honest to god just what the eff is going on?
It is totally phenomenal in at least 30 different ways. Is also the beginning of the end, IMO.
Currie will get his hire in 3 years or less.
Next year will be 2003, the following 2004, then 2005.
Snyder will realize he doesn't have the juice to get Sean in as coach, and he'll step down because, "It's the right time."
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I feel like this is worthy of a meltdown. woof.
oh it absolutely is. i haven't melted down about anything in about a year btw. no bball or fball game melt downs for me at all. not even the baylor bball game this year. but this is up there with giving tate a scholarship and sean a coaching position. just absolutely beyond belief. i mean the air force rough ridin' defensive coordinator is a god damn linebackers coach and grew up in the god damn town that you want him to move back to and played football at the god damn university that you want him to coach at and you can't rough ridin' get him to come and replace the defensive coordinator/linebackers coach that just left? it's rough ridin' airforce. the guy came here before for a rough ridin' linebackers coaching position. what the eff is happening? i mean honest to god just what the eff is going on?
It is totally phenomenal in at least 30 different ways. Is also the beginning of the end, IMO.
Currie will get his hire in 3 years or less.
Next year will be 2003, the following 2004, then 2005.
Snyder will realize he doesn't have the juice to get Sean in as coach, and he'll step down because, "It's the right time."
Okay, so a Big 12 title then 2 years of sucking? Is Hayes going to leave for Wisconsin to be HCIW? :grin:
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I feel like this is worthy of a meltdown. woof.
oh it absolutely is. i haven't melted down about anything in about a year btw. no bball or fball game melt downs for me at all. not even the baylor bball game this year. but this is up there with giving tate a scholarship and sean a coaching position. just absolutely beyond belief. i mean the air force rough ridin' defensive coordinator is a god damn linebackers coach and grew up in the god damn town that you want him to move back to and played football at the god damn university that you want him to coach at and you can't rough ridin' get him to come and replace the defensive coordinator/linebackers coach that just left? it's rough ridin' airforce. the guy came here before for a rough ridin' linebackers coaching position. what the eff is happening? i mean honest to god just what the eff is going on?
It is totally phenomenal in at least 30 different ways. Is also the beginning of the end, IMO.
Currie will get his hire in 3 years or less.
Next year will be 2003, the following 2004, then 2005.
Snyder will realize he doesn't have the juice to get Sean in as coach, and he'll step down because, "It's the right time."
He did say he was going to calm the waters. I guess we should've assumed he would then create a rough ridin' tsunami on the way out the door. :facepalm:
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i think Hayes is a great coach and was essentially a co-dc this year but...
:angry:
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In all seriousness, why is Wallerstedt so much better? AFAIK, his only BCS experience is KSU under Prince. Flush.
Because his hire would show at least some inclination to get some youth and outside perspective into the staff. He seems to be acknowledged as an up and comer, or at least a desirable coach. Instead, BS is doing exactly what led to his first retirement. Not capitalizing on success and promoting those that don't deserve promotion. We all assumed that BS pushed Cosh out but I doubt that is the case. I think Cosh fled like he does every job and Bill let him. Cosh could have stayed until Bill re-retired.
Wallerstedt's been a coach for like 20 years and barely sniffed BCS. woof. Ekeler would truly signify youth and has a decent resume.
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i think Hayes is a great coach and was essentially a co-dc this year but...
:angry:
Yeah, I don't hate Hayes. I hate that we can't do better than Hayes.
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I feel like this is worthy of a meltdown. woof.
oh it absolutely is. i haven't melted down about anything in about a year btw. no bball or fball game melt downs for me at all. not even the baylor bball game this year. but this is up there with giving tate a scholarship and sean a coaching position. just absolutely beyond belief. i mean the air force rough ridin' defensive coordinator is a god damn linebackers coach and grew up in the god damn town that you want him to move back to and played football at the god damn university that you want him to coach at and you can't rough ridin' get him to come and replace the defensive coordinator/linebackers coach that just left? it's rough ridin' airforce. the guy came here before for a rough ridin' linebackers coaching position. what the eff is happening? i mean honest to god just what the eff is going on?
It is totally phenomenal in at least 30 different ways. Is also the beginning of the end, IMO.
Currie will get his hire in 3 years or less.
Next year will be 2003, the following 2004, then 2005.
Snyder will realize he doesn't have the juice to get Sean in as coach, and he'll step down because, "It's the right time."
Okay, so a Big 12 title then 2 years of sucking?
would absolutely take. then after i took it, i'd do some crazy dance w/ my tongue out and hands above my head and then spike that thing on the floor and get pak'd and probably do like twenty girls at the same time or something.
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I feel like this is worthy of a meltdown. woof.
oh it absolutely is. i haven't melted down about anything in about a year btw. no bball or fball game melt downs for me at all. not even the baylor bball game this year. but this is up there with giving tate a scholarship and sean a coaching position. just absolutely beyond belief. i mean the air force rough ridin' defensive coordinator is a god damn linebackers coach and grew up in the god damn town that you want him to move back to and played football at the god damn university that you want him to coach at and you can't rough ridin' get him to come and replace the defensive coordinator/linebackers coach that just left? it's rough ridin' airforce. the guy came here before for a rough ridin' linebackers coaching position. what the eff is happening? i mean honest to god just what the eff is going on?
It is totally phenomenal in at least 30 different ways. Is also the beginning of the end, IMO.
Currie will get his hire in 3 years or less.
Next year will be 2003, the following 2004, then 2005.
Snyder will realize he doesn't have the juice to get Sean in as coach, and he'll step down because, "It's the right time."
Okay, so a Big 12 title then 2 years of sucking? Is Hayes going to leave for Wisconsin to be HCIW? :grin:
There's certainly a chance.
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In all seriousness, why is Wallerstedt so much better? AFAIK, his only BCS experience is KSU under Prince. Flush.
Because his hire would show at least some inclination to get some youth and outside perspective into the staff. He seems to be acknowledged as an up and comer, or at least a desirable coach. Instead, BS is doing exactly what led to his first retirement. Not capitalizing on success and promoting those that don't deserve promotion. We all assumed that BS pushed Cosh out but I doubt that is the case. I think Cosh fled like he does every job and Bill let him. Cosh could have stayed until Bill re-retired.
Wallerstedt's been a coach for like 20 years and barely sniffed BCS. woof. Ekeler would truly signify youth and has a decent resume.
Not to mention his name is "Crash" and he may be certifiably insane.
You know what other d-coordinator may be certifiably insane? Mike Stoops. Coincidence? Could be, but I doubt it. More crazies more wins imo.
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i think Hayes is a great coach and was essentially a co-dc this year but...
:angry:
Yeah, I don't hate Hayes. I hate that we can't choose not to do better than Hayes.
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i think Hayes is a great coach and was essentially a co-dc this year but...
:angry:
Yeah, I don't hate Hayes. I hate that we can't do better than Hayes.
I hate that we don't even try.
We don't even try.
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i think Hayes is a great coach and was essentially a co-dc this year but...
:angry:
Yeah, I don't hate Hayes. I hate that we can't barely tried at all todo better than Hayes.
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In all seriousness, why is Wallerstedt so much better? AFAIK, his only BCS experience is KSU under Prince. Flush.
Because his hire would show at least some inclination to get some youth and outside perspective into the staff. He seems to be acknowledged as an up and comer, or at least a desirable coach. Instead, BS is doing exactly what led to his first retirement. Not capitalizing on success and promoting those that don't deserve promotion. We all assumed that BS pushed Cosh out but I doubt that is the case. I think Cosh fled like he does every job and Bill let him. Cosh could have stayed until Bill re-retired.
Wallerstedt's been a coach for like 20 years and barely sniffed BCS. woof. Ekeler would truly signify youth and has a decent resume.
Not to mention his name is "Crash" and he may be certifiably insane.
You know what other d-coordinator may be certifiably insane? Mike Stoops. Coincidence? Could be, but I doubt it. More crazies more wins imo.
agreed. I have a theory that cocaine helps d-coordinators A LOT.
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In all seriousness, why is Wallerstedt so much better? AFAIK, his only BCS experience is KSU under Prince. Flush.
Because his hire would show at least some inclination to get some youth and outside perspective into the staff. He seems to be acknowledged as an up and comer, or at least a desirable coach. Instead, BS is doing exactly what led to his first retirement. Not capitalizing on success and promoting those that don't deserve promotion. We all assumed that BS pushed Cosh out but I doubt that is the case. I think Cosh fled like he does every job and Bill let him. Cosh could have stayed until Bill re-retired.
Wallerstedt's been a coach for like 20 years and barely sniffed BCS. woof. Ekeler would truly signify youth and has a decent resume.
Not to mention his name is "Crash" and he may be certifiably insane.
You know what other d-coordinator may be certifiably insane? Mike Stoops. Coincidence? Could be, but I doubt it. More crazies more wins imo.
agreed. I have a theory that cocaine helps d-coordinators A LOT.
you should thesis that bitch up.
also, we apparently tried to go get a guy but did such a horrible job that the guy chose to stay at air force. oh yeah, he grew up in mhk and played fball at kstate and has coached here in the past. ekeler was so rough ridin' far out of our league that i'm sure we didn't even bother trying.
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In all seriousness, why is Wallerstedt so much better? AFAIK, his only BCS experience is KSU under Prince. Flush.
Because his hire would show at least some inclination to get some youth and outside perspective into the staff. He seems to be acknowledged as an up and comer, or at least a desirable coach. Instead, BS is doing exactly what led to his first retirement. Not capitalizing on success and promoting those that don't deserve promotion. We all assumed that BS pushed Cosh out but I doubt that is the case. I think Cosh fled like he does every job and Bill let him. Cosh could have stayed until Bill re-retired.
Wallerstedt's been a coach for like 20 years and barely sniffed BCS. woof. Ekeler would truly signify youth and has a decent resume.
Not to mention his name is "Crash" and he may be certifiably insane.
You know what other d-coordinator may be certifiably insane? Mike Stoops. Coincidence? Could be, but I doubt it. More crazies more wins imo.
agreed. I have a theory that cocaine helps d-coordinators A LOT.
Makes one a great motivator.
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In all seriousness, why is Wallerstedt so much better? AFAIK, his only BCS experience is KSU under Prince. Flush.
Because his hire would show at least some inclination to get some youth and outside perspective into the staff. He seems to be acknowledged as an up and comer, or at least a desirable coach. Instead, BS is doing exactly what led to his first retirement. Not capitalizing on success and promoting those that don't deserve promotion. We all assumed that BS pushed Cosh out but I doubt that is the case. I think Cosh fled like he does every job and Bill let him. Cosh could have stayed until Bill re-retired.
Wallerstedt's been a coach for like 20 years and barely sniffed BCS. woof. Ekeler would truly signify youth and has a decent resume.
Not to mention his name is "Crash" and he may be certifiably insane.
You know what other d-coordinator may be certifiably insane? Mike Stoops. Coincidence? Could be, but I doubt it. More crazies more wins imo.
agreed. I have a theory that cocaine helps d-coordinators A LOT.
you should thesis that bitch up.
also, we apparently tried to go get a guy but did such a horrible job that the guy chose to stay at air force. oh yeah, he grew up in mhk and played fball at kstate and has coached here in the past. ekeler was so rough ridin' far out of our league that i'm sure we didn't even bother trying.
Probably for how Snyder was going to define his role and cap his pay, yes.
I think we could get really good assistants, and I think Currie might sign off on bigger salaries, but Snyder is ultimately the one determining how much he wants to pay his assistants from what I understand, so it most likely limits our candidate pool immensely.
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pfffttt, name me a career that cocaine doesn't make you better at....you can't. oh, what, yoga instructor? please, that's not a career.
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Where does the "Snyder caps pay" theory come from? I don't doubt it but find it hard to believe when he obviously doesn't mind being one of the highest paid in the conference.
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Where does the "Snyder caps pay" theory come from? I don't doubt it but find it hard to believe when he obviously doesn't mind being one of the highest paid in the conference.
It's what I've always heard. I'd like to know more as well.
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Where does the "Snyder caps pay" theory come from? I don't doubt it but find it hard to believe when he obviously doesn't mind being one of the highest paid in the conference.
I've never gotten this theory since it's common knowledge that when he took the job in '89 one of his demands was enough of an assistants budget to pay the going rate for average top conference assistants.
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Where does the "Snyder caps pay" theory come from? I don't doubt it but find it hard to believe when he obviously doesn't mind being one of the highest paid in the conference.
I've never gotten this theory since it's common knowledge that when he took the job in '89 one of his demands was enough of an assistants budget to pay the going rate for average top conference assistants.
he must not adjust for inflation.
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Statistically, black coaches recruit better than white coaches.
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Statistically, black coaches recruit better than white coaches.
Using common sense, a young white guy can recruit much better than an old black guy.
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eff the banner, start raising $$$ for an assassin (old balls and sean).
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WHY are we so Busch League?
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We are
K-State
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What happened?
:dunno:
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What happened?
:dunno:
:blindfold:
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Like Tim Weiser used to say, "At K-State we can't just write checks for those sorts of things like other schools can".
K-State has always been about the people and rolling up sleeves and out working other people and stuff. And really old coaches that sucks balls at recruiting.
It's who we are. Just tuck your shirt in and accept it.
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Wow, there is effing nobody that wants to work for old balls
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Statistically, black coaches recruit better than white coaches.
Using common sense, a young white guy can recruit much better than an old black guy.
Do statistics support that, Stevesie60?
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I feel like this is worthy of a meltdown. woof.
oh it absolutely is. i haven't melted down about anything in about a year btw. no bball or fball game melt downs for me at all. not even the baylor bball game this year. but this is up there with giving tate a scholarship and sean a coaching position. just absolutely beyond belief. i mean the air force rough ridin' defensive coordinator is a god damn linebackers coach and grew up in the god damn town that you want him to move back to and played football at the god damn university that you want him to coach at and you can't rough ridin' get him to come and replace the defensive coordinator/linebackers coach that just left? it's rough ridin' airforce. the guy came here before for a rough ridin' linebackers coaching position. what the eff is happening? i mean honest to god just what the eff is going on?
Real question, why didn't Snyder get him when he came back? He left because of Prince, not Snyder. Seems like he would have been an easy get. :dunno:
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Real question, why didn't Snyder get him when he came back? He left because of Prince, not Snyder. Seems like he would have been an easy get. :dunno:
Um, because Cosh was available?
Duh.
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This all just makes me sad
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Was just sitting here pondering what a laughable a notion it was to think that Snyder was "encouraging" Cosh to interview elsewhere this offseason...Like Snyder really had a plan in place to upgrade the defense and potentially bring in a successor.
Lol. It's like he purposely punishes us for being a bunch of rubes.
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Real question, why didn't Snyder get him when he came back? He left because of Prince, not Snyder. Seems like he would have been an easy get. :dunno:
Um, because Cosh was available?
Duh.
He couldn't have been too happy with CC, otherwise he wouldn't have brough in VK as Co-DC
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I think OB is and has been in take what you can get mode. I'm becoming of the belief that there's a long list of: "Thanks, but no thanks Bill" Who the eff would want to work for him? People talk crap on KSU and/or Manhattan like it's an undesirable place to be a coach - but I'm really starting to believe it's Bill. I've met several players that secretly hate his rough ridin' guts but talk about what a great person he is out in the open - Wondering if that's how almost every coach that knows him feels.
#FYBS
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I think OB is and has been in take what you can get mode. I'm becoming of the belief that there's a long list of: "Thanks, but no thanks Bill" Who the eff would want to work for him? People talk crap on KSU and/or Manhattan like it's an undesirable place to be a coach - but I'm really starting to believe it's Bill. I've met several players that secretly hate his rough ridin' guts but talk about what a great person he is out in the open - Wondering if that's how almost every coach that knows him feels.
#FYBS
yeah! lets hire a new head coach! :ksu:
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I think OB is and has been in take what you can get mode. I'm becoming of the belief that there's a long list of: "Thanks, but no thanks Bill" Who the eff would want to work for him? People talk crap on KSU and/or Manhattan like it's an undesirable place to be a coach - but I'm really starting to believe it's Bill. I've met several players that secretly hate his rough ridin' guts but talk about what a great person he is out in the open - Wondering if that's how almost every coach that knows him feels.
#FYBS
It's absolutely that way.
Good thing he's just here to calm the waters, right?
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I think OB is and has been in take what you can get mode. I'm becoming of the belief that there's a long list of: "Thanks, but no thanks Bill" Who the eff would want to work for him? People talk crap on KSU and/or Manhattan like it's an undesirable place to be a coach - but I'm really starting to believe it's Bill. I've met several players that secretly hate his rough ridin' guts but talk about what a great person he is out in the open - Wondering if that's how almost every coach that knows him feels.
#FYBS
If you were a young coach, would you work for a 72 year old coach that could retire within the next few years. Please serious answers only.
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I like that we still care enough to be pissed.
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I think OB is and has been in take what you can get mode. I'm becoming of the belief that there's a long list of: "Thanks, but no thanks Bill" Who the eff would want to work for him? People talk crap on KSU and/or Manhattan like it's an undesirable place to be a coach - but I'm really starting to believe it's Bill. I've met several players that secretly hate his rough ridin' guts but talk about what a great person he is out in the open - Wondering if that's how almost every coach that knows him feels.
#FYBS
If you were a young coach, would you work for a 72 year old coach that could retire within the next few years. Please serious answers only.
If a young up and coming coach wanted to pad his resume' and the only real cost was to work for a taskmaster control freak workaholic for a couple years then yes I think there are candidates out there. :grin: JMO
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Lest we all forget the Snyder Way
Have we all forgotten the Snyder Way and how he built K-State from the worst college football program in the country to the "Greatest Turnaround in College Football History"?
Go back to the beginning and early years of the Snyder v.1 and look how he handled coaching promotions.
Bob Stoops was a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent secondary coach.
Jim Leavitt was a linebackers coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.
Bxrent Venables was a grad assistant coach. He eventually moved up to linebackers coach (an internal hire) after proving himself as a grad aXssistant. He then moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.
Mike Stoops was also a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself as a top-notch defensive backs coach.
Dana Dimel started off as an offensive GA under Coach Snyder back in 1989. He eventually moved up to tight ends coach, running backs coach, offensive line coach, run game coordinator, and finally co-offensive coordinator (all internal hires).
You see the precedent?
Just like he molds and builds young men into the best players they can be - get a little better every day - during their years playing in the program, LHCBS likes to surround himself with quality position coaches, grad assistants and personnel that he can also mold and build into future position coaches and coordinators.
If LHCBS believes that Blake Seiler would make a great defensive ends coach, and full time assistant on the staff, he should know after three years of tutoring and teaching him the Wildcat Way.
It's no different than Venables, Dimel, Joe Bob or a host of other successful coaches who paid their dues and worked their way up the ranks under Coach Snyder through the years.
And if after working with Tom Hayes for a season coaching the defensive secondary, he believes Hayes can effectively move up to co-defensive coordinator, I will not object.
LHCBS v.2 surrounded himself again with young, aspiring, quality coaches that he can teach and mold daily to fill in possible future openings on the staff. Jonathon Beasley, David Allen, Blake Seiler, Joe Gordon . . . and more have been groomed for three years now for these opportunities.
I know this, if LHCBS believes the best candidate(s) for staff openings are presently in house, he has a brilliant resume of successes promoting from within.
Go Cats!
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Lest we all forget the Snyder Way
Have we all forgotten the Snyder Way and how he built K-State from the worst college football program in the country to the "Greatest Turnaround in College Football History"?
Go back to the beginning and early years of the Snyder v.1 and look how he handled coaching promotions.
Bob Stoops was a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent secondary coach.
Jim Leavitt was a linebackers coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.
Bxrent Venables was a grad assistant coach. He eventually moved up to linebackers coach (an internal hire) after proving himself as a grad aXssistant. He then moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.
Mike Stoops was also a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself as a top-notch defensive backs coach.
Dana Dimel started off as an offensive GA under Coach Snyder back in 1989. He eventually moved up to tight ends coach, running backs coach, offensive line coach, run game coordinator, and finally co-offensive coordinator (all internal hires).
You see the precedent?
Just like he molds and builds young men into the best players they can be - get a little better every day - during their years playing in the program, LHCBS likes to surround himself with quality position coaches, grad assistants and personnel that he can also mold and build into future position coaches and coordinators.
If LHCBS believes that Blake Seiler would make a great defensive ends coach, and full time assistant on the staff, he should know after three years of tutoring and teaching him the Wildcat Way.
It's no different than Venables, Dimel, Joe Bob or a host of other successful coaches who paid their dues and worked their way up the ranks under Coach Snyder through the years.
And if after working with Tom Hayes for a season coaching the defensive secondary, he believes Hayes can effectively move up to co-defensive coordinator, I will not object.
LHCBS v.2 surrounded himself again with young, aspiring, quality coaches that he can teach and mold daily to fill in possible future openings on the staff. Jonathon Beasley, David Allen, Blake Seiler, Joe Gordon . . . and more have been groomed for three years now for these opportunities.
I know this, if LHCBS believes the best candidate(s) for staff openings are presently in house, he has a brilliant resume of successes promoting from within.
Go Cats!
Goddamnit, that was Leland, wasn't it?
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Lest we all forget the Snyder Way
Have we all forgotten the Snyder Way and how he built K-State from the worst college football program in the country to the "Greatest Turnaround in College Football History"?
Go back to the beginning and early years of the Snyder v.1 and look how he handled coaching promotions.
Bob Stoops was a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent secondary coach.
Jim Leavitt was a linebackers coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.
Bxrent Venables was a grad assistant coach. He eventually moved up to linebackers coach (an internal hire) after proving himself as a grad aXssistant. He then moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.
Mike Stoops was also a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself as a top-notch defensive backs coach.
Dana Dimel started off as an offensive GA under Coach Snyder back in 1989. He eventually moved up to tight ends coach, running backs coach, offensive line coach, run game coordinator, and finally co-offensive coordinator (all internal hires).
You see the precedent?
Just like he molds and builds young men into the best players they can be - get a little better every day - during their years playing in the program, LHCBS likes to surround himself with quality position coaches, grad assistants and personnel that he can also mold and build into future position coaches and coordinators.
If LHCBS believes that Blake Seiler would make a great defensive ends coach, and full time assistant on the staff, he should know after three years of tutoring and teaching him the Wildcat Way.
It's no different than Venables, Dimel, Joe Bob or a host of other successful coaches who paid their dues and worked their way up the ranks under Coach Snyder through the years.
And if after working with Tom Hayes for a season coaching the defensive secondary, he believes Hayes can effectively move up to co-defensive coordinator, I will not object.
LHCBS v.2 surrounded himself again with young, aspiring, quality coaches that he can teach and mold daily to fill in possible future openings on the staff. Jonathon Beasley, David Allen, Blake Seiler, Joe Gordon . . . and more have been groomed for three years now for these opportunities.
I know this, if LHCBS believes the best candidate(s) for staff openings are presently in house, he has a brilliant resume of successes promoting from within.
Go Cats!
:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
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Has any fanbase hated their coach this much after a 10 win season? I hope not. This much hate deserves to make history.
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Lest we all forget the Snyder Way
Have we all forgotten the Snyder Way and how he built K-State from the worst college football program in the country to the "Greatest Turnaround in College Football History"?
Go back to the beginning and early years of the Snyder v.1 and look how he handled coaching promotions.
Bob Stoops was a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent secondary coach.
Jim Leavitt was a linebackers coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.
Bxrent Venables was a grad assistant coach. He eventually moved up to linebackers coach (an internal hire) after proving himself as a grad aXssistant. He then moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.
Mike Stoops was also a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself as a top-notch defensive backs coach.
Dana Dimel started off as an offensive GA under Coach Snyder back in 1989. He eventually moved up to tight ends coach, running backs coach, offensive line coach, run game coordinator, and finally co-offensive coordinator (all internal hires).
You see the precedent?
Just like he molds and builds young men into the best players they can be - get a little better every day - during their years playing in the program, LHCBS likes to surround himself with quality position coaches, grad assistants and personnel that he can also mold and build into future position coaches and coordinators.
If LHCBS believes that Blake Seiler would make a great defensive ends coach, and full time assistant on the staff, he should know after three years of tutoring and teaching him the Wildcat Way.
It's no different than Venables, Dimel, Joe Bob or a host of other successful coaches who paid their dues and worked their way up the ranks under Coach Snyder through the years.
And if after working with Tom Hayes for a season coaching the defensive secondary, he believes Hayes can effectively move up to co-defensive coordinator, I will not object.
LHCBS v.2 surrounded himself again with young, aspiring, quality coaches that he can teach and mold daily to fill in possible future openings on the staff. Jonathon Beasley, David Allen, Blake Seiler, Joe Gordon . . . and more have been groomed for three years now for these opportunities.
I know this, if LHCBS believes the best candidate(s) for staff openings are presently in house, he has a brilliant resume of successes promoting from within.
Go Cats!
The difference being Hayes is old and drinks ensure. The other coaches you bring up were a lot younger and could still eat a steak without it being soften up for them.
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I'll say it again, Stormnut. It's the Wildcat Way.
Just like he molds and builds young men into the best players they can be - get a little better every day - during their years playing in the program, LHCBS likes to surround himself with quality position coaches, grad assistants and personnel that he can also mold and build into future position coaches and coordinators.
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Well, this was fun.
You got us again old man, you got us again. :flush:
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This is fantastic.
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Has any fanbase hated their coach this much after a 10 win season? I hope not. This much hate deserves to make history.
Nerbaska and Solich? Or, did he only win 9? Course, they fired him.
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Lest we all forget the Snyder Way
Have we all forgotten the Snyder Way and how he built K-State from the worst college football program in the country to the "Greatest Turnaround in College Football History"?
Go back to the beginning and early years of the Snyder v.1 and look how he handled coaching promotions.
Bob Stoops was a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent secondary coach.
Jim Leavitt was a linebackers coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.
Bxrent Venables was a grad assistant coach. He eventually moved up to linebackers coach (an internal hire) after proving himself as a grad aXssistant. He then moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.
Mike Stoops was also a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself as a top-notch defensive backs coach.
Dana Dimel started off as an offensive GA under Coach Snyder back in 1989. He eventually moved up to tight ends coach, running backs coach, offensive line coach, run game coordinator, and finally co-offensive coordinator (all internal hires).
You see the precedent?
Just like he molds and builds young men into the best players they can be - get a little better every day - during their years playing in the program, LHCBS likes to surround himself with quality position coaches, grad assistants and personnel that he can also mold and build into future position coaches and coordinators.
If LHCBS believes that Blake Seiler would make a great defensive ends coach, and full time assistant on the staff, he should know after three years of tutoring and teaching him the Wildcat Way.
It's no different than Venables, Dimel, Joe Bob or a host of other successful coaches who paid their dues and worked their way up the ranks under Coach Snyder through the years.
And if after working with Tom Hayes for a season coaching the defensive secondary, he believes Hayes can effectively move up to co-defensive coordinator, I will not object.
LHCBS v.2 surrounded himself again with young, aspiring, quality coaches that he can teach and mold daily to fill in possible future openings on the staff. Jonathon Beasley, David Allen, Blake Seiler, Joe Gordon . . . and more have been groomed for three years now for these opportunities.
I know this, if LHCBS believes the best candidate(s) for staff openings are presently in house, he has a brilliant resume of successes promoting from within.
Go Cats!
The difference being Hayes is old and drinks ensure. The other coaches you bring up were a lot younger and could still eat a steak without it being soften up for them.
lest you forget the Snyder way you rough ridin' piece of trash.
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Has any fanbase hated their coach this much after a 10 win season? I hope not. This much hate deserves to make history.
Has any coach who lost a bad assistant after a 10 win season failed to capitalize on it as miserably as Snyder did? Well, probably. But still.
I would also guess Les Miles is hated more by his fanbase than Snyder.
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Has any fanbase hated their coach this much after a 10 win season? I hope not. This much hate deserves to make history.
We shouldn't hate him. We should be incredibly thankful.
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I don't hate him. I'm assuming even promoting from within is better than Cosh
Snyder does, however, consistently find a way to annoy the hell out of me with these things
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I don't hate him. I'm assuming even promoting from within is better than Cosh
Snyder does, however, consistently find a way to annoy the hell out of me with these things
:thumbs:
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I don't hate him. I'm assuming even promoting from within is better than Cosh
Snyder does, however, consistently find a way to annoy the hell out of me with these things
Being annoyed is okay. Sometimes my mom annoys me, for example.
I always love her unconditionally though.
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I don't hate him. I'm assuming even promoting from within is better than Cosh
Snyder does, however, consistently find a way to annoy the hell out of me with these things
Being annoyed is okay. Sometimes my mom annoys me, for example.
I always love her unconditionally though.
Here's the thing, though. We're complaining about this, and Snyder will end up promoting Hayes, Joe Bob will coach linebackers, and Seiler will be the DE coach. We'll end up winning eight or nine games this year, and Seiler will end up getting four or five recruits.
As much as I hate how Snyder does it, and I really, really do, as long as he's not losing half of his recruiting class to non-qualifiers and attrition, we'll win regardless of who is on staff.
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Has any fanbase hated their coach this much after a 10 win season? I hope not. This much hate deserves to make history.
Has any coach who lost a bad assistant after a 10 win season failed to capitalize on it as miserably as Snyder did? Well, probably. But still.
I would also guess Les Miles is hated more by his fanbase than Snyder.
This is what amazes me. He has no interest in taking advantage of these situations. Weird. Pretty sure it all comes down to no decent coach wants to work for the old bastard. I guess we are lucky he is good enough to keep us slightly above average without much help. :dunno:
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I don't hate Snyder, I am just tired of predicting this crap. If this was really a "calming the waters" approach he would have hired proven coaches instead of re-gifting crap someone found on the discount rack. You should all be pissed he brought back the same shitty coaches that lead to his demise after the end of his first tour of duty; and now after a good season - still not doing anything to correct it. Like dipshit above posted, this should feel familiar because this is how he's always handled it; keep in mind though it really hasn't worked in fifteen years. These are the guys that failed to capitalize on a rough ridin' Big 12 championship after knocking off the "greatest team of all time". Am i the only one that remembers this crap? I know, 10 wins; That's great, but if some of you dipshits would listen to yourselves and do what you tell everyone else to do and look back at the DOD- you would see that when ksu was at its best- they had a D in the top 50. We haven't had had a coach on this staff in almost ten years that could recruit or coach a team at that caliber. Do any of you remember knowing ksu was going to win? There was no question - ksu was just better. This team has a long way to go before their that good. Ksu may win 8-10 games next year - but until they start recruiting and signing entire classes of guys that have Div 1 offers from other schools; these wins will just feel like flukes. Sorry if you can't see that.
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Yes we won ten games, but they felt like flukes. I hate Snyder for this.
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This is what amazes me. He has no interest in taking advantage of these situations. Weird. Pretty sure it all comes down to no decent coach wants to work for the old bastard. I guess we are lucky he is good enough to keep us slightly above average without much help. :dunno:
We were much better than "slightly above average" this last season.
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This is what amazes me. He has no interest in taking advantage of these situations. Weird. Pretty sure it all comes down to no decent coach wants to work for the old bastard. I guess we are lucky he is good enough to keep us slightly above average without much help. :dunno:
We were much better than "slightly above average" this last season.
Yeah, the 2011 team won't get the credit they deserve. They were a legit Top 15 team.
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Was Hayes actually promoted, or is this one of those preemptive meltdowns?
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Where there is smoke there is fire.
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Was Hayes actually promoted, or is this one of those preemptive meltdowns?
From TOS:
Damn, sorry, I was really drunk and unable to elaborate. What I meant to say was I am sick of fans like you who do nothing but complain and convince themselves they know anything of what it would take to run the Kansas State football program, coach the team, and evaluate other coaches. Idiots who think youth is a fountain of greatness, when in fact youth is inexperienced and ignorant. I swear idiots like yourself would hire on appearance, is he sexy, does he make you hard or not and that would be that.
Joe Bob, he's how old? I guess past this imaginary youthful greatness some seem so hung up on obtaining somewhere else. Tell me how it's possible to want a young up and coming LB coach, but when they have worked with Snyder before, well that automatically ruins it for you people? OMFG he not only already worked with Snyder he still does!! Whaaaa my vag hurts!!!! I met him once and he didn't ask me out, why won't Bill bring me some new meat!! Sick of it.
Looking forward to learning about my grammatical errors so tia. To the rest, sorry, I'm just sick of 'em all.
Dillrift?
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I don't hate Snyder, I am just tired of predicting this crap. If this was really a "calming the waters" approach he would have hired proven coaches instead of re-gifting crap someone found on the discount rack. You should all be pissed he brought back the same shitty coaches that lead to his demise after the end of his first tour of duty; and now after a good season - still not doing anything to correct it. Like dipshit above posted, this should feel familiar because this is how he's always handled it; keep in mind though it really hasn't worked in fifteen years. These are the guys that failed to capitalize on a rough ridin' Big 12 championship after knocking off the "greatest team of all time". Am i the only one that remembers this crap? I know, 10 wins; That's great, but if some of you dipshits would listen to yourselves and do what you tell everyone else to do and look back at the DOD- you would see that when ksu was at its best- they had a D in the top 50. We haven't had had a coach on this staff in almost ten years that could recruit or coach a team at that caliber. Do any of you remember knowing ksu was going to win? There was no question - ksu was just better. This team has a long way to go before their that good. Ksu may win 8-10 games next year - but until they start recruiting and signing entire classes of guys that have Div 1 offers from other schools; these wins will just feel like flukes. Sorry if you can't see that.
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Spot on my friend, spot on.
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I don't hate Snyder, I am just tired of predicting this crap. If this was really a "calming the waters" approach he would have hired proven coaches instead of re-gifting crap someone found on the discount rack. You should all be pissed he brought back the same shitty coaches that lead to his demise after the end of his first tour of duty; and now after a good season - still not doing anything to correct it. Like dipshit above posted, this should feel familiar because this is how he's always handled it; keep in mind though it really hasn't worked in fifteen years. These are the guys that failed to capitalize on a rough ridin' Big 12 championship after knocking off the "greatest team of all time". Am i the only one that remembers this crap? I know, 10 wins; That's great, but if some of you dipshits would listen to yourselves and do what you tell everyone else to do and look back at the DOD- you would see that when ksu was at its best- they had a D in the top 50. We haven't had had a coach on this staff in almost ten years that could recruit or coach a team at that caliber. Do any of you remember knowing ksu was going to win? There was no question - ksu was just better. This team has a long way to go before their that good. Ksu may win 8-10 games next year - but until they start recruiting and signing entire classes of guys that have Div 1 offers from other schools; these wins will just feel like flukes. Sorry if you can't see that.
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Totally agree. I don't hate the guy we have coaching now either, but like you, I remember the days when I just knew KSU was going to win. Back when LHC Bill Snyder was coaching, hiring staff members and recruiting. Those were the days. We'd win like 9-11 games every year. Now we are lucky when we win 10 and luck into the Cotton Bowl. Our current coach is so predictable. I remember LHC Bill Snyder promoting coaches internally like Bob Stoops, MIke Stoops, Brent Venables and the list goes on....those were the days. Those coaches were so awesome and did so well. Now we're probably going to hire some internal stiff who will probably suck. Our current coach is lucky, predicable, and a horrible recruiter. We need the guy we had back when we were good and winning games and stuff.
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Was Hayes actually promoted, or is this one of those preemptive meltdowns?
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Was Hayes actually promoted, or is this one of those preemptive meltdowns?
Guess
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Was Hayes actually promoted, or is this one of those preemptive meltdowns?
Guess
my guess is the latter
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Was Hayes actually promoted, or is this one of those preemptive meltdowns?
Guess
my guess is the latter
:thumbs:
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eff this place.
Where's the new bbs that isn't full of respects?
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"@ASUDevilscom: Source: Air Force DC Matt Wallerstedt spent weekend in Tempe but no deal reached with Arizona State. He's likely to stay at AFA."
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"@ASUDevilscom: Source: Air Force DC Matt Wallerstedt spent weekend in Tempe but no deal reached with Arizona State. He's likely to stay at AFA."
So we have terms, conditions, or our all around situation is mumped up enough where a guy would rather be a DC at Air Force?
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"@ASUDevilscom: Source: Air Force DC Matt Wallerstedt spent weekend in Tempe but no deal reached with Arizona State. He's likely to stay at AFA."
So we have terms, conditions, or our all around situation is mumped up enough where a guy would rather be a DC at Air Force?
uh.....he said no to ASU also.
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"@ASUDevilscom: Source: Air Force DC Matt Wallerstedt spent weekend in Tempe but no deal reached with Arizona State. He's likely to stay at AFA."
So we have terms, conditions, or our all around situation is mumped up enough where a guy would rather be a DC at Air Force?
uh.....he said no to ASU also.
Doesn't comfort me. It's Air Force.
I really want to think that he isn't the one who said no at either school. Really hope both us and ASU said "pass" for reasons other than that we have Hayes on staff.
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My guess is Snyder never really seriously pursued him.
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"@ASUDevilscom: Source: Air Force DC Matt Wallerstedt spent weekend in Tempe but no deal reached with Arizona State. He's likely to stay at AFA."
So we have terms, conditions, or our all around situation is mumped up enough where a guy would rather be a DC at Air Force?
uh.....he said no to ASU also.
Doesn't comfort me. It's Air Force.
I really want to think that he isn't the one who said no at either school. Really hope both us and ASU said "pass" for reasons other than that we have Hayes on staff.
If he said, "No," to both schools, he probably said he would want to run the 3-4 at both KSU and ASU, and Snyder and Graham told him, "Thanks, but no thanks."
Snyder knows what he wants, and Graham was a defensive guy, so it's probably that they disagreed with what Wally wanted to do and passed.
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Snyder probably low bucked him and tried to make him a CO-DC or something and Wally was probably like, "Yeah, I'll stay in the Mountain West".
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Snyder probably low bucked him and tried to make him a CO-DC or something and Wally was probably like, "Yeah, I'll stay in the Mountain West".
After realizing he had a better incoming class at the AFA.
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"@ASUDevilscom: Source: Air Force DC Matt Wallerstedt spent weekend in Tempe but no deal reached with Arizona State. He's likely to stay at AFA."
So we have terms, conditions, or our all around situation is mumped up enough where a guy would rather be a DC at Air Force?
uh.....he said no to ASU also.
Doesn't comfort me. It's Air Force.
I really want to think that he isn't the one who said no at either school. Really hope both us and ASU said "pass" for reasons other than that we have Hayes on staff.
If he said, "No," to both schools, he probably said he would want to run the 3-4 at both KSU and ASU, and Snyder and Graham told him, "Thanks, but no thanks."
Snyder knows what he wants, and Graham was a defensive guy, so it's probably that they disagreed with what Wally wanted to do and passed.
Have to be able to recruit a beast nose tackle in the 3-4. We're better off spreading the deficiencies around in a 4-3
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That OBDB coach is or was a 3-4 coach though.
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That OBDB coach is or was a 3-4 coach though.
OBDB = Hayes? If so, when/where did he run a 3-4?
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Sorry, but had to post this. Struck me as lollz that they put out an ad.
Nebraska-Kearney: The University of Nebraska at Kearney is seeking applications for the position of Offensive Coordinator. UNK participates at the NCAA Division II level and is an athletic member of the Mid-American Athletic Association (MIAA). The position of Offensive Coordinator will include, but is not limited too, the following: Coordinate all facets of the offense and assist the head coach in running a nationally ranked and competitive football program. Applicants should have college experience as an offensive coordinator. Some teaching in the HPERLS Department required with this position, therefore a Bachelor's degree in Phyiscal Education or related field is required a Master's degree is preferred. Interested applicants can apply on-line through accessing the Human Resources web-site on the University of Nebraska at Kearney's home page. Applications will be accepted until the position is filled. No phone calls please.
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Sorry, but had to post this. Struck me as lollz that they put out an ad.
Nebraska-Kearney: The University of Nebraska at Kearney is seeking applications for the position of Offensive Coordinator. UNK participates at the NCAA Division II level and is an athletic member of the Mid-American Athletic Association (MIAA). The position of Offensive Coordinator will include, but is not limited too, the following: Coordinate all facets of the offense and assist the head coach in running a nationally ranked and competitive football program. Applicants should have college experience as an offensive coordinator. Some teaching in the HPERLS Department required with this position, therefore a Bachelor's degree in Phyiscal Education or related field is required a Master's degree is preferred. Interested applicants can apply on-line through accessing the Human Resources web-site on the University of Nebraska at Kearney's home page. Applications will be accepted until the position is filled. No phone calls please.
DO IT _FAN!
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most schools put out ads as they are employed by the state and have to advertise. I imagine you could fine a KSU DC ad somewhere..
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most schools put out ads as they are employed by the state and have to advertise. I imagine you could fine a KSU DC ad somewhere..
first one I'd seen on coaching search
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most schools put out ads as they are employed by the state and have to advertise. I imagine you could fine a KSU DC ad somewhere..
Yeah, NU posts all their coaching jobs on the normal university job system thing.
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Sorry, but had to post this. Struck me as lollz that they put out an ad.
Nebraska-Kearney: The University of Nebraska at Kearney is seeking applications for the position of Offensive Coordinator. UNK participates at the NCAA Division II level and is an athletic member of the Mid-American Athletic Association (MIAA). The position of Offensive Coordinator will include, but is not limited too, the following: Coordinate all facets of the offense and assist the head coach in running a nationally ranked and competitive football program. Applicants should have college experience as an offensive coordinator. Some teaching in the HPERLS Department required with this position, therefore a Bachelor's degree in Phyiscal Education or related field is required a Master's degree is preferred. Interested applicants can apply on-line through accessing the Human Resources web-site on the University of Nebraska at Kearney's home page. Applications will be accepted until the position is filled. No phone calls please.
It's a real thing. Minnesota had to do it for a head coaching position a few years ago.
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most schools put out ads as they are employed by the state and have to advertise. I imagine you could fine a KSU DC ad somewhere..
first one I'd seen on coaching search
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/11/17/ole-miss-job-application/index.html
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Skipper44 there are articles out there from 2005 about old balls Tom Hayes running the 3-4 at Stanford.
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Rob Cassidy
It means nothing only because LHC Bill Snyder will protect any secret, trivial or not, with his life. I seriously think he does it for sport.
less than 1 minute ago from web
Rob Cassidy
This means nothing, but LHC Bill Snyder and company told visiting recruits that they have "no idea who the defensive coordinator will be."
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Rob Cassidy
It means nothing only because LHC Bill Snyder will protect any secret, trivial or not, with his life. I seriously think he does it for sport.
less than 1 minute ago from web
Rob Cassidy
This means nothing, but LHC Bill Snyder and company told visiting recruits that they have "no idea who the defensive coordinator will be."
genius recruiting right there
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Rob Cassidy
This means nothing, but LHC Bill Snyder and company told visiting recruits that they have "no idea who the defensive coordinator will be."
wow.
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Rob Cassidy
This means nothing, but LHC LHC Bill Snyder and company told visiting recruits that they have "no idea who the defensive coordinator will be."
:facepalm:
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What the heck, Bill?
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What the heck, Bill?
:frown:
10 win season, you should be thankful, etc.
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A small sliver (very small) of me thinks it is adorable how incredibly dopey and clueless we are at football recruiting. It is almost quaint.
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This will weed out the kids who really don't want to be here...at least on defense.
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if you don't want to be at kstate no matter who is coaching you (if anyone, we have no rough ridin' clue at this point honestly) then you may as well hit the road, we have no place for those types.
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lol...and we still flipped a KU DT 'cruit.
Superbowl rings vs "We have no clue who will be your coach" and the latter won.
:lol:
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lol...and we still flipped a KU DT 'cruit.
Superbowl rings vs "We have no clue who will be your coach" and the latter won.
:lol:
We didn't flip crap yet, bruh. :frown:
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if you don't want to be at kstate no matter who is coaching you (if anyone, we have no rough ridin' clue at this point honestly) then you may as well hit the road, we have no place for those types.
:powerespect:
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:if you don't want to be at kstate no matter who is coaching you (if anyone, we have no rough ridin' clue at this point honestly) then you may as well hit the road, we have no place for those types.
:powerespect:
:facepalm:
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Outright Lies vs. Cone of Silence /
ITK
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lol...and we still flipped a KU DT 'cruit.
Superbowl rings vs "We have no clue who will be your coach" and the latter won.
:lol:
We didn't flip crap yet, bruh. :frown:
well he doesn't have an offer at KU anymore...soo
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lol...and we still flipped a KU DT 'cruit.
Superbowl rings vs "We have no clue who will be your coach" and the latter won.
:lol:
We didn't flip crap yet, bruh. :frown:
well he doesn't have an offer at KU anymore...soo
Was that because he took the visit?
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lol...and we still flipped a KU DT 'cruit.
Superbowl rings vs "We have no clue who will be your coach" and the latter won.
:lol:
We didn't flip crap yet, bruh. :frown:
well he doesn't have an offer at KU anymore...soo
Post your ITK crap then.
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lol...and we still flipped a KU DT 'cruit.
Superbowl rings vs "We have no clue who will be your coach" and the latter won.
:lol:
We didn't flip crap yet, bruh. :frown:
well he doesn't have an offer at KU anymore...soo
Was that because he took the visit?
honestly, if we didn't flip him and his offer was rescinded because he took our visit, that is even better, imo. Look, we all know Bill has been bad at recruiting, so we don't expect him to steal people. However, if Weis is dropping offers because kids continue to do their due diligence, well, that kind of thing gets around pretty quick and who really likes the pressure sale?
No timeshare for me, chuck....
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dropping offers is a big time program thing
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Some EMAJ'ers were saying that Weis pulled his Reed's offer because he visited us. I think they got their info off of Slant :dunno:
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Some EMAJ'ers were saying that Weis pulled his Reed's offer because he visited us. I think they got their info off of Slant :dunno:
They wish.
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Random points in time.
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A small sliver (very small) of me thinks it is adorable how incredibly dopey and clueless we are at football recruiting. It is almost quaint.
:bill:
Seemed appropriate and I REALLY wanted to use it.
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I don't hate Snyder, I am just tired of predicting this crap. If this was really a "calming the waters" approach he would have hired proven coaches instead of re-gifting crap someone found on the discount rack. You should all be pissed he brought back the same shitty coaches that lead to his demise after the end of his first tour of duty; and now after a good season - still not doing anything to correct it. Like dipshit above posted, this should feel familiar because this is how he's always handled it; keep in mind though it really hasn't worked in fifteen years. These are the guys that failed to capitalize on a rough ridin' Big 12 championship after knocking off the "greatest team of all time". Am i the only one that remembers this crap? I know, 10 wins; That's great, but if some of you dipshits would listen to yourselves and do what you tell everyone else to do and look back at the DOD- you would see that when ksu was at its best- they had a D in the top 50. We haven't had had a coach on this staff in almost ten years that could recruit or coach a team at that caliber. Do any of you remember knowing ksu was going to win? There was no question - ksu was just better. This team has a long way to go before their that good. Ksu may win 8-10 games next year - but until they start recruiting and signing entire classes of guys that have Div 1 offers from other schools; these wins will just feel like flukes. Sorry if you can't see that.
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Some very good points but reminds me of one simple question than nobody has ever answered for me. When did the Hemingway rule eliminating the use of university planes/jets go into effect? Amazing how KSU was in the mist of complete domination of the flaw on the kaw when the weasel chancellor of that craphole uses his position on the NCAA rules committee to give universities that are closer to major airports a decided recruiting advantage by arguing universities that use private jets (which everybody could and was using) was creating recruiting advantages. What a sleezeball.
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I think the private jet rule happened in 2004 or 2005. I know Brent Schaeffer took a private jet - he did a recruiting diary or something about it.
Quiz (for anyone): What type of event did he attend at Tennessee that really impressed him?
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I think the private jet rule happened in 2004 or 2005. I know Brent Schaeffer took a private jet - he did a recruiting diary or something about it.
Quiz (for anyone): What type of event did he attend at Tennessee that really impressed him?
i don't remember.
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I think the private jet rule happened in 2004 or 2005. I know Brent Schaeffer took a private jet - he did a recruiting diary or something about it.
Quiz (for anyone): What type of event did he attend at Tennessee that really impressed him?
sex party
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hip hop concert.
Don't recall the artist.
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I don't hate Snyder, I am just tired of predicting this crap. If this was really a "calming the waters" approach he would have hired proven coaches instead of re-gifting crap someone found on the discount rack. You should all be pissed he brought back the same shitty coaches that lead to his demise after the end of his first tour of duty; and now after a good season - still not doing anything to correct it. Like dipshit above posted, this should feel familiar because this is how he's always handled it; keep in mind though it really hasn't worked in fifteen years. These are the guys that failed to capitalize on a rough ridin' Big 12 championship after knocking off the "greatest team of all time". Am i the only one that remembers this crap? I know, 10 wins; That's great, but if some of you dipshits would listen to yourselves and do what you tell everyone else to do and look back at the DOD- you would see that when ksu was at its best- they had a D in the top 50. We haven't had had a coach on this staff in almost ten years that could recruit or coach a team at that caliber. Do any of you remember knowing ksu was going to win? There was no question - ksu was just better. This team has a long way to go before their that good. Ksu may win 8-10 games next year - but until they start recruiting and signing entire classes of guys that have Div 1 offers from other schools; these wins will just feel like flukes. Sorry if you can't see that.
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Some very good points but reminds me of one simple question than nobody has ever answered for me. When did the Hemingway rule eliminating the use of university planes/jets go into effect? Amazing how KSU was in the mist of complete domination of the flaw on the kaw when the weasel chancellor of that craphole uses his position on the NCAA rules committee to give universities that are closer to major airports a decided recruiting advantage by arguing universities that use private jets (which everybody could and was using) was creating recruiting advantages. What a sleezeball.
WGAF?
:AA:
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I think the private jet rule happened in 2004 or 2005. I know Brent Schaeffer took a private jet - he did a recruiting diary or something about it.
Quiz (for anyone): What type of event did he attend at Tennessee that really impressed him?
Your right. I found a Rivals article from July 2005 that states the Jet rule change would be in effect for the 2005 recruiting year. So, for the naysayers of the recruiting failure following the 2003 Big 12 Championship, by the time the Championship happened, most major recruits for Feb 2004 signing had already committed to where they were going to sign. Then for Feb 2005, recruits had to be flown into KCI and then driven 2.5 hrs across I-70 and back. Significant timing problems on commercial flights into KCI which would turn a lot of kids off from even wanting to make the trip. And unless the recruiter slipped the recruit a 2.5 hr sleeping pill, every single one would think "where in the eff in the middle of nowhere am I?" Not even Venzy or Mack Brown could recruit under those circumstances.
True :AA: has swung the advantage back to KSU but that has only recently happened and the Prince fiasco put us back further on the recruiting trail than :AA: has helped us out.
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I don't hate Snyder, I am just tired of predicting this crap. If this was really a "calming the waters" approach he would have hired proven coaches instead of re-gifting crap someone found on the discount rack. You should all be pissed he brought back the same shitty coaches that lead to his demise after the end of his first tour of duty; and now after a good season - still not doing anything to correct it. Like dipshit above posted, this should feel familiar because this is how he's always handled it; keep in mind though it really hasn't worked in fifteen years. These are the guys that failed to capitalize on a rough ridin' Big 12 championship after knocking off the "greatest team of all time". Am i the only one that remembers this crap? I know, 10 wins; That's great, but if some of you dipshits would listen to yourselves and do what you tell everyone else to do and look back at the DOD- you would see that when ksu was at its best- they had a D in the top 50. We haven't had had a coach on this staff in almost ten years that could recruit or coach a team at that caliber. Do any of you remember knowing ksu was going to win? There was no question - ksu was just better. This team has a long way to go before their that good. Ksu may win 8-10 games next year - but until they start recruiting and signing entire classes of guys that have Div 1 offers from other schools; these wins will just feel like flukes. Sorry if you can't see that.
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Some very good points but reminds me of one simple question than nobody has ever answered for me. When did the Hemingway rule eliminating the use of university planes/jets go into effect? Amazing how KSU was in the mist of complete domination of the flaw on the kaw when the weasel chancellor of that craphole uses his position on the NCAA rules committee to give universities that are closer to major airports a decided recruiting advantage by arguing universities that use private jets (which everybody could and was using) was creating recruiting advantages. What a sleezeball.
It was right around the time Barnett was throwing the drug and rape recruiting parties at CU and that scandal was blowing up. There was also that dumbass Willie Williams that was writing a diary that chronicled his recruitment for a newspaper while he was flown around by Miami and fed lobster on a private jet. The fact that he was the #1 recruit in the country garnered some big media attention.
This all went down around 2004.
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footballscoop FootballScoop Staff
Big get for Texas A&M…Matt Wallerstedt defensive coordinator / assoc head coach at Air Force joining the staff footballscoop.com/the-scoop
Texas A&M, huh?
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3-4
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3-4
Good call. Makes sense.
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Good for A&M. Luckily we've got things covered here with Tom Hayes and Joe Bob.
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A&M is a good stepping stone. He will have a valid excuse for hopping when the entire football staff gets canned again.
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Good for A&M. Luckily we've got things covered here with Tom Hayes and Joe Bob.
One man's stubborn is another man's tenacious.
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not sure if posted but heard players were told the Hayes DC/ Joe Bob LB/ Seiler DE decision had been made
and apparently the animated corpse of Mo will continue to work the interior
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not sure if posted but heard players werre told the Hayes DC/ Joe Bob LB/ Seiler DE decision had been made
and apparently the animated corpse of Mo will continue to work the interior
Once it hits the news, please copy paste the GPC thread celebrating this and highlighting why this is better than other DC options. TIA
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Mo's animated corpse brings a sense of stability in an otherwise volatile group of coaches. I find that comforting...almost calming-the-waters-worthy.
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not sure if posted but heard players were told the Hayes DC/ Joe Bob LB/ Seiler DE decision had been made
and apparently the animated corpse of Mo will continue to work the interior
LBs, you are now coaching yourselves. I expect you to be in your office an average of 75 hours a week.
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not sure if posted but heard players were told the Hayes DC/ Joe Bob LB/ Seiler DE decision had been made
and apparently the animated corpse of Mo will continue to work the interior
LBs, you are now coaching yourselves. I expect you to be in your office an average of 75 hours a week.
Mark Simoneau's plan of hanging outside of Vanier with a sign around his neck that said, "Will work for food" apparently went unnoticed.
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not sure if posted but heard players were told the Hayes DC/ Joe Bob LB/ Seiler DE decision had been made
and apparently the animated corpse of Mo will continue to work the interior
LBs, you are now coaching yourselves. I expect you to be in your office an average of 75 hours a week.
Mark Simoneau's plan of hanging outside of Vanier with a sign around his neck that said, "Will work for food" apparently went unnoticed.
According to Bill, eating time is wasted time.
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not sure if posted but heard players were told the Hayes DC/ Joe Bob LB/ Seiler DE decision had been made
and apparently the animated corpse of Mo will continue to work the interior
LBs, you are now coaching yourselves. I expect you to be in your office an average of 75 hours a week.
the pole vaulters coached themselves when i was in highschool. practice would consist of going to darahs for a 52 cent mountain dew refill and then laying/tanning on the mat for thirty minutes followed by a couple of runs at the bar each and then bball at a friends house that lived in candlewood. i got a third place medal at a jv meet once.
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candlewood
always up to no good
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I don't get what makes any of you think you know more about appointing a LB's coach than LHC Bill Snyder. I mean if he thinks Sean can coach a group of LB's, who are we to say he can't? He fathered a first team all state LB, obviously he knows more than we do about the position.
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:flush:
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not sure if posted but heard players were told the Hayes DC/ Joe Bob LB/ Seiler DE decision had been made
and apparently the animated corpse of Mo will continue to work the interior
LBs, you are now coaching yourselves. I expect you to be in your office an average of 75 hours a week.
the pole vaulters coached themselves when i was in highschool. practice would consist of going to darahs for a 52 cent mountain dew refill and then laying/tanning on the mat for thirty minutes followed by a couple of runs at the bar each and then bball at a friends house that lived in candlewood. i got a third place medal at a jv meet once.
Probably know whose house that was. I am elite.
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Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Bill on defensive coordinator: "We have a guy." .... asked, "Is it Tom Hayes?" ... Bill: "We have a guy."
Rob Cassidy @robcassidy22 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Say he is "working on contract details."
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Turns out Matt Wallderstad will be A&M's LB coach.
I kid you not.
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"Is it Tom Hayes?" ... Bill: "We have a guy."
"We have a guy."
Yeah Bill, I'm getting old too, I understand, don't strain yourself too much, managing new, young and unfamiliar employees is stressful, stick to the familiar faces, the tried and true.
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Stick to the has beens, the unwanted and the family members.
They're cheap, easier to boss around and they'll never leave you.
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OB Tom Hayes is probably setting up his cot in his office as we speak..
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tom hayes was a BCS head coach
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tom hayes was a BCS head coach
Has insider knowledge of the KU program.
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tom hayes was a BCS head coach
more recently he was manager of a KC area Tanners Bar & Grill :drool:
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which one?
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which one?
LAWRENCETUCKY?
http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-10-21/kevin-haskin-hayes-returns-ku-cats
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This just in:
Raphael Guidry @RalphGuidry
@DSams4 lol who's gonna be the d-coordinator?
Glenn Gronkowski @ggronko
@DSams4 dude no joke just said the same thing to someone at training table hahahah
Daniel Sams @DSams4
@RalphGuidry idk son
Everything already runs through Sams, my god. :love:
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So, who gets a sticky note on their door next?
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Same is like the Godfather.
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Turns out Matt Wallderstad will be A&M's LB coach.
I kid you not.
we don't rough ridin' want matt wallerstedt you dumbass
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robcassidy22Rob Cassidy
Say he is "working on contract details."
1 Feb
robcassidy22Rob Cassidy
Bill on defensive coordinator: "We have a guy." .... asked, "Is it Tom Hayes?" ... Bill: "We have a guy."
1 Feb
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K-State Football 2012: We have a guy :thumbs:
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How hard can it be to negotiate a contract with Hayes?
ADJC: Here are the terms.
Hayes: well, I think this is a good start bu
ADJC (with stern look): No, here are the terms.
Hayes: As I was saying, you got a deal!
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ADJC: you are getting paid the same
Hayes: k
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rename the board "we have a guy...... we have a guy"
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rename the board "we have a guy...... we have a guy"
Bill's Self-Inflicted Wound
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rename the board "we have a guy...... we have a guy"
Bill's Self-Inflicted Wound
+1
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rename the board "we have a guy...... we have a guy"
Bill's Self-Inflicted Wound
+1
Tibesar's Googily Eye? :crossfingers:
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Tanners at Vanier
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rename the board "we have a guy...... we have a guy"
Bill's Self-Inflicted Wound
+1
Tibesar's Googily Eye? :crossfingers:
Tibs' is seriously the DC at Purdue :sdeek:
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rename the board "we have a guy...... we have a guy"
Bill's Self-Inflicted Wound
+1
Tibesar's Googily Eye? :crossfingers:
Tibs' is seriously the DC at Purdue :sdeek:
The least we can do is rename this guy :sdeek: from sdeek to tibesarnormal.
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How hard can it be to negotiate a contract with Hayes?
ADJC: Here are the terms.
Hayes: well, I think this is a good start bu
ADJC (with stern look): No, here are the terms.
Hayes: As I was saying, you got a deal!
Hayes got his hands on the Jack Donaghey negotiation system (on tape of course).
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How hard can it be to negotiate a contract with Hayes?
ADJC: Here are the terms.
Hayes: well, I think this is a good start bu
ADJC (with stern look): No, here are the terms.
Hayes: As I was saying, you got a deal!
Hayes got his hands on the Jack Donaghey negotiation system (on tape of course).
The hobo's auction!?
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What's a manager at Tanner's pull down these days? 65K?
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Anybody heard anything new. Maybe since it's contract issues, Synder has someone that's not part of his staff. :pray:
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Anybody heard anything new. Maybe since it's contract issues, Synder has someone that's not part of his staff. :pray:
Does make one wonder. It will be TH but whats taking so long.
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It's Hayes and they will try to bury the official announcement in the schedule release.
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Bill will probably deny the promotion for a few days after the official press release.
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It's Hayes and they will try to bury the official announcement in the schedule release.
But why do that, when Hayes would be happy as a clam be Synder's DC. Do you think OB is worried about backlash?
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Hayes is an Iowa guy, there's a DC opening there, and wouldn't it be hilarious if that old bastard had some leverage on Bill.
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It's Hayes and they will try to bury the official announcement in the schedule release.
But why do that, when Hayes would be happy as a clam be Synder's DC. Do you think OB is worried about backlash?
Yes, at least 45 pages worth.
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It's Hayes and they will try to bury the official announcement in the schedule release.
But why do that, when Hayes would be happy as a clam be Synder's DC. Do you think OB is worried about backlash?
Yes, at least 45 pages worth.
:lol:
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It's Hayes and they will try to bury the official announcement in the schedule release.
But why do that, when Hayes would be happy as a clam be Synder's DC. Do you think OB is worried about backlash?
He made Sean a coach. No, he's not concerned about backlash.
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It's Hayes and they will try to bury the official announcement in the schedule release.
But why do that, when Hayes would be happy as a clam be Synder's DC. Do you think OB is worried about backlash?
He made Sean a coach. No, he's not concerned about backlash.
Correct. "They" in my statement is KSU.
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Hayes is an Iowa guy, there's a DC opening there, and it wouldn't it be hilarious if that old bastard had some leverage on Bill.
Someone tell Bill that Iowa is hiring the Giants LB coach as DC.
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Rob Cassidy
Are ya still awake? If so, here's this: BREAKING Snyder to promote Hayes, Hire Cox. http://t.co/hCsaOvvt
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Want to know how to make a tired promotion look amazing? Hire some guy who just got fired and is actually named Mike Cox.
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That's his actual name guys. My-Cocks.
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Rob Cassidy
Are ya still awake? If so, here's this: BREAKING Snyder to promote Hayes, Hire Cox. http://t.co/hCsaOvvt
I imagine there will be 3+ more pages by the time I wake up tomorrow.
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well well well. so much for my blake seiler dream. :frown:
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This is why it's important not to take sports so seriously.
:frown:
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:lol:
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This feels like Snyder's version of the Midnight Judges.
Who is Cox?
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Nevermind. It's this guy, isn't it?
http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/cox_mike00.html (http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/cox_mike00.html)
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Mike Cox? Really?
Mike Cox.
You cannot write this stuff, people.
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This feels like Snyder's version of the Midnight Judges.
Who is Cox?
Lots of experience!
http://seattle.sbnation.com/2011/12/31/2672910/nick-holt-fired-as-washington-huskies-defensive-coordinator/in/2435616
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This thread just keeps coming up with more and more reasons for me to lol.
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It's like his parents somehow knew about K-Stateo 60 years ago (just assuming the new hire is 60 years old) and decided to give us a prank by naming their son "mike."
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Nevermind. It's this guy, isn't it?
http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/cox_mike00.html (http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/cox_mike00.html)
Loved that LB play in the Alamo bowl!!!!!
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Why not just go by Michael?
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And Hayes?
I mean...we all knew this was coming and I love you Snydesy, but sometimes, good grief.
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For some reason, I bet Snyder is completely oblivious to how funny his name is.
Also, I guarantee he calls him "Michael".
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I'm a fan of Mr. Cox's cousin, Mr. Hunt. :lol:
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I'm a fan of Mr. Cox's cousin, Mr. Hunt. :lol:
It's like Hellhammer handpicked the LB coach.
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Cox was one of three assistants let go by Huskies head coach Steve Sarkisian following an Alamo Bowl loss that saw his defense allow 67 points and 777 total yards to Baylor...
Welcome to the purple train, Mike Cox.
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Cox appears to be equal to or older than Cosh so the staff just gained some much needed maturity.
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I hate you Snyder. Not even a national championship could change that.
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incredible. simply incredible. I mean....I don't even know what to say. Just....I mean...f*ck.
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o m g
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well this is something.
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Seriously laughing at myself for scoffing at KU for hiring Dave Campo.
You seriously can't even make this stuff up with Snyder any more. A guy that was managing Tanners and a guy that just got fired for coaching the the worst college defense in the history of the game.
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Snyder finally found someone he believes in to develop his precious tater tot into something terry pierce would be proud of.
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Nevermind. It's this guy, isn't it?
http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/cox_mike00.html (http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/cox_mike00.html)
Mike Cox joined the Husky coaching staff in January of 2009
Did anyone else chuckle immaturely at that line?
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:clac: .________________. :goodbyecruelworld:
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I'm a fan of Mr. Cox's cousin, Mr. Hunt. :lol:
It's like Hellhammer handpicked the LB coach.
God damn ... I don't even know where to start!!!!1!!1! This is a blessed event, Bill does love me, he wasn't just saying it to get rid of me!
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Want to know how to make a tired promotion look amazing? Hire some guy who just got fired and is actually named Mike Cox.
I don't know about you all but there is something very strange and awkward about Mike Cox coming on the staff. I feel something deep down is about to arise in Manhattan within our football team mostly in an upward and positive direction but that remains to be seen. However, by and Large it's possible that our defense is going to come up big in tight situations like in the red zone and midfield. No doubt we should be Rock Solid in 2012. Not only that but I have a feeling that we'll be very stiff against Big 12 competition, no one knows how to get better penetration with the men in the middle than Mike Cox. I really hope we didn't blow our wad with this hire. Very ballsy for sure.
Go Cats!!! :ksu:
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Want to know how to make a tired promotion look amazing? Hire some guy who just got fired and is actually named Mike Cox.
I don't know about you all but there is something very strange and awkward about Mike Cox coming on the staff. I feel something deep down is about to arise in Manhattan within our football team mostly in an upward and positive direction but that remains to be seen. However, by and Large it's possible that our defense is going to come up big in tight situations like in the red zone and midfield. No doubt we should be Rock Solid in 2012. Not only that but I have a feeling that we'll be very stiff against Big 12 competition, no one knows how to get better penetration with the men in the middle than Mike Cox. I really hope we didn't blow our wad with this hire. Very ballsy for sure.
Go Cats!!! :ksu:
:thumbs:
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Snyder rough ridin' hates US!
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:lol:
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Want to know how to make a tired promotion look amazing? Hire some guy who just got fired and is actually named Mike Cox.
I don't know about you all but there is something very strange and awkward about Mike Cox coming on the staff. I feel something deep down is about to arise in Manhattan within our football team mostly in an upward and positive direction but that remains to be seen. However, by and Large it's possible that our defense is going to come up big in tight situations like in the red zone and midfield. No doubt we should be Rock Solid in 2012. Not only that but I have a feeling that we'll be very stiff against Big 12 competition, no one knows how to get better penetration with the men in the middle than Mike Cox. I really hope we didn't blow our wad with this hire. Very ballsy for sure.
Go Cats!!! :ksu:
I can feel it too, purplenutz. Right down in my plums.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykuTKwbRwF0&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykuTKwbRwF0&feature=related)
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Someone with more than one male genitals should look into porn.
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we aren't even going to try any more
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Why is everyone so surprised with the Cox hire?
In case you haven't forgotten, Snyder emphasizes quality of coach over quality of recruiting. He knows that regardless of who is on our staff, or how we are percevied in the country, we are never going to get the top recruits (and he went so far as to say that we aren't even going to try any more). So we get who we can, and we coach them up.
Cox has a solid coaching pedigree. This is the exact type of hire I expected.
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Why do you guys still spend money with that site? Woof.
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i know it's fun to be all melt-downy and stuff. but really?
yes the guy has a funny name but isn't that far superior to Joe Bob coaching LB's and Seiler DE's.
yes i would have preferred a new sexxy DC but we have been reigned to HAyes for awhile now. no?
Hayes is a qualified and competent coach who was a quality contributor to the staff (it is my understanding that he basically ran the Defense for the Cotton Bowl and did a good job). Cox seems to have a nice track record and quality experience at a couple different stops.
anyway back to the :runaway:
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Want to know how to make a tired promotion look amazing? Hire some guy who just got fired and is actually named Mike Cox.
I don't know about you all but there is something very strange and awkward about Mike Cox coming on the staff. I feel something deep down is about to arise in Manhattan within our football team mostly in an upward and positive direction but that remains to be seen. However, by and Large it's possible that our defense is going to come up big in tight situations like in the red zone and midfield. No doubt we should be Rock Solid in 2012. Not only that but I have a feeling that we'll be very stiff against Big 12 competition, no one knows how to get better penetration with the men in the middle than Mike Cox. I really hope we didn't blow our wad with this hire. Very ballsy for sure.
Go Cats!!! :ksu:
Top notch review, Purplenutz. Way to drive a point. :lol:
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i know it's fun to be all melt-downy and stuff. but really?
yes the guy has a funny name but isn't that far superior to Joe Bob coaching LB's and Seiler DE's.
yes i would have preferred a new sexxy DC but we have been reigned to HAyes for awhile now. no?
Hayes is a qualified and competent coach who was a quality contributor to the staff (it is my understanding that he basically ran the Defense for the Cotton Bowl and did a good job). Cox seems to have a nice track record and quality experience at a couple different stops.
anyway back to the :runaway:
Also let's note that while this is true: "Cox was one of three assistants let go by Huskies head coach Steve Sarkisian following an Alamo Bowl loss that saw his defense allow 67 points and 777 total yards to Baylor..." Baylor also gave up a tidy sum of yards, and that was with Phil(Lightining Strike) Bennitt at helm.
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I'm actually surprised we brought in an outside coach and didn't just promote the GA. So there's that.
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I'm actually surprised we brought in an outside coach and didn't just promote the GA. So there's that.
Not as exciting. New hard news from outside hire, now that's exciting. Don't know about you, but I can become fond of Mike Cox.
:fatty:
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I'm gonna go cut my own head off now. eff this crap.
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Damnit! Is it too much to ask that Sean Snyder be promoted into the D-Cord position? A little experience at a Cordinator position would be nice before he completely takes over. Plus the meltdown would have been fantastic. I got my hopes up only to be crushed by some guy I have never heard of and another guy who sucks cox.
:dunno:
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It's Hayes and they will try to bury the official announcement in the schedule release.
But why do that, when Hayes would be happy as a clam be Synder's DC. Do you think OB is worried about backlash?
He made Sean a coach. No, he's not concerned about backlash.
Bump for this comment. Not concerned at all.
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i know it's fun to be all melt-downy and stuff. but really?
yes the guy has a funny name but isn't that far superior to Joe Bob coaching LB's and Seiler DE's.
yes i would have preferred a new sexxy DC but we have been reigned to HAyes for awhile now. no?
Hayes is a qualified and competent coach who was a quality contributor to the staff (it is my understanding that he basically ran the Defense for the Cotton Bowl and did a good job). Cox seems to have a nice track record and quality experience at a couple different stops.
anyway back to the :runaway:
I would have preferred a GA promotion by a long shot.
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See you guys in the parking lot.
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Set the time machine to February 2004.
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i know it's fun to be all melt-downy and stuff. but really?
yes the guy has a funny name but isn't that far superior to Joe Bob coaching LB's and Seiler DE's.
yes i would have preferred a new sexxy DC but we have been reigned to HAyes for awhile now. no?
Hayes is a qualified and competent coach who was a quality contributor to the staff (it is my understanding that he basically ran the Defense for the Cotton Bowl and did a good job). Cox seems to have a nice track record and quality experience at a couple different stops.
anyway back to the :runaway:
I would have preferred a GA promotion by a long shot.
for the meltdowniness of it all???
if so i can appreciate :thumbsup:
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Set the time machine to February 2004.
perfect. someone please photoshop snyds and sean.
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i know it's fun to be all melt-downy and stuff. but really?
yes the guy has a funny name but isn't that far superior to Joe Bob coaching LB's and Seiler DE's.
yes i would have preferred a new sexxy DC but we have been reigned to HAyes for awhile now. no?
Hayes is a qualified and competent coach who was a quality contributor to the staff (it is my understanding that he basically ran the Defense for the Cotton Bowl and did a good job). Cox seems to have a nice track record and quality experience at a couple different stops.
anyway back to the :runaway:
I would have preferred a GA promotion by a long shot.
for the meltdowniness of it all???
if so i can appreciate :thumbsup:
no, for having someone under 50 on the staff. I think it would be better for recruiting, and it isn't like this retread is going to be some x's and o's master or coach-em-up wizard. Why not go with someone young?
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See you guys in the parking lot.
Amazing post. Says so much while saying so little. :thumbs:
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You guys remember when we wanted Cosh gone? :lol:
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You guys remember when we wanted Cosh gone? :lol:
I think a lot of us knew this would be the end result.
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we did. that doesn't mean the staff did.
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Sean must strut around Vanier like a boss these days.
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Sean must strut around Vanier like a boss these days.
I bet he gives the newbies, like Cox, a really hard time. Noogies and whatnot.
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i know it's fun to be all melt-downy and stuff. but really?
yes the guy has a funny name but isn't that far superior to Joe Bob coaching LB's and Seiler DE's.
yes i would have preferred a new sexxy DC but we have been reigned to HAyes for awhile now. no?
Hayes is a qualified and competent coach who was a quality contributor to the staff (it is my understanding that he basically ran the Defense for the Cotton Bowl and did a good job). Cox seems to have a nice track record and quality experience at a couple different stops.
anyway back to the :runaway:
Would rather have these 2 running the show.
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we did. that doesn't mean the staff did.
I think some of them did. Obviously they have the last few years. Why do you think people left?
FWIW, I don't think Cox is a bad OR good hire. It is what it is. I do like bringing in new thoughts and new ideas and now with Hayes (last year) and Cox we've done that. I'm glad to move away from the Cosh era because I don't think he was great at his job. We'll have to see how Hayes does and he certainly (or Cox) isn't some home run hire to get excited about, but I'm going to give them both the benefit of the doubt at this point. I want to see more of their ideas and concepts in the spring and next fall and more importantly how their defenses perform before I get upset about them.
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Cox knows how not to handle RG3 now. Do not discount experience.
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i know it's fun to be all melt-downy and stuff. but really?
yes the guy has a funny name but isn't that far superior to Joe Bob coaching LB's and Seiler DE's.
yes i would have preferred a new sexxy DC but we have been reigned to HAyes for awhile now. no?
Hayes is a qualified and competent coach who was a quality contributor to the staff (it is my understanding that he basically ran the Defense for the Cotton Bowl and did a good job). Cox seems to have a nice track record and quality experience at a couple different stops.
anyway back to the :runaway:
Also let's note that while this is true: "Cox was one of three assistants let go by Huskies head coach Steve Sarkisian following an Alamo Bowl loss that saw his defense allow 67 points and 777 total yards to Baylor..." Baylor also gave up a tidy sum of yards, and that was with Phil(Lightining Strike) Bennitt at helm.
one thing is for certain..."expert" posters all dial in with unquestionable knowledge for who a future hall of fame coach should hire. Given the fact Cox served as "recruiting coordinator" for Michigan State and was hired by the young Sarkisian (most of the young coaching staffs are put together more for recruiting purposes) it's believed in the coaching profession he is a good recruiter. I don't know that for certain rather applying some logic. The coaches know who the good recruiters are in their profession.
As for his performance vs. Baylor....
Baylor humiliated some coaches this year believed to be solid defensive coaches
Paul Rhoads - 609 yards and 49 pts
Brent Venables - 616 yards and 45 pts
Gary Patterson - 564 yards and 50 pts
Manny Diaz - 511 yards and 49 pts
Tommy Tuberville - 617 yards and 66 pts
so, basically, everybody on Baylor's schedule got assaulted. Sometimes it is personnel and sometimes it is the game plan...but all defensive coaches have their heads handed to them.
I don't know why the guy was fired. Could be there were some boosters infuriated by the numbers or that Sarkisian feared his own job. That seems to be the way to go nowadays moreso than ever.
Now carry on with the "expertedness" on good hiring practices and I'll hang up and watch another double digit winning season for Snyder next year.
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recruits? Where we're going we don't need any recruits.
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The Baylor "assault" is such a red herring...
2011-12 NCAA FBS Team Total Defense
74. Kansas St.
75. Wake Forest
76. Toledo
77. Minnesota
78. Auburn
79. Bowling Green
80. Northwestern
81. Washington St.
82. Tulane
83. Oregon St.
84. Colorado St.
85. Navy
86. Marshall
87. Northern Ill.
88. Arizona St.
89. Ole Miss
90. Tulsa
91. UCLA
92. Duke
93. San Jose St.
94. Washington
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recruits? Where we're going we don't need any recruits.
:lol:
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Cox was the recruiting coordinator for Michigan State before his stint with St. Louis. For a LB coach, this isn't a terrible hire.
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i know it's fun to be all melt-downy and stuff. but really?
yes the guy has a funny name but isn't that far superior to Joe Bob coaching LB's and Seiler DE's.
yes i would have preferred a new sexxy DC but we have been reigned to HAyes for awhile now. no?
Hayes is a qualified and competent coach who was a quality contributor to the staff (it is my understanding that he basically ran the Defense for the Cotton Bowl and did a good job). Cox seems to have a nice track record and quality experience at a couple different stops.
anyway back to the :runaway:
Also let's note that while this is true: "Cox was one of three assistants let go by Huskies head coach Steve Sarkisian following an Alamo Bowl loss that saw his defense allow 67 points and 777 total yards to Baylor..." Baylor also gave up a tidy sum of yards, and that was with Phil(Lightining Strike) Bennitt at helm.
one thing is for certain..."expert" posters all dial in with unquestionable knowledge for who a future hall of fame coach should hire. Given the fact Cox served as "recruiting coordinator" for Michigan State and was hired by the young Sarkisian (most of the young coaching staffs are put together more for recruiting purposes) it's believed in the coaching profession he is a good recruiter. I don't know that for certain rather applying some logic. The coaches know who the good recruiters are in their profession.
As for his performance vs. Baylor....
Baylor humiliated some coaches this year believed to be solid defensive coaches
Paul Rhoads - 609 yards and 49 pts
Brent Venables - 616 yards and 45 pts
Gary Patterson - 564 yards and 50 pts
Manny Diaz - 511 yards and 49 pts
Tommy Tuberville - 617 yards and 66 pts
so, basically, everybody on Baylor's schedule got assaulted. Sometimes it is personnel and sometimes it is the game plan...but all defensive coaches have their heads handed to them.
I don't know why the guy was fired. Could be there were some boosters infuriated by the numbers or that Sarkisian feared his own job. That seems to be the way to go nowadays moreso than ever.
Now carry on with the "expertedness" on good hiring practices and I'll hang up and watch another double digit winning season for Snyder next year.
+1 :thumbsup:
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Washington Defense a National Joke
Mike Cox fired because of it.
“I want to thank Nick Holt, Mike Cox, and Jeff Mills for their hard work and dedication throughout the last three years,” Sarkisian said in the statement. “They were instrumental in the leadership and development of countless young men, and they have left our program in a better place.”
Many would disagree, at least in terms of football numbers. Including the bowl game, the Huskies surrendered a record-worst 453.3 yards per game.
http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/ (http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/)
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recruiting coordinator is just an administrative title. Not a reflection of recruiting ability IMO.
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Washington Defense a National Joke
Mike Cox fired because of it.
“I want to thank Nick Holt, Mike Cox, and Jeff Mills for their hard work and dedication throughout the last three years,” Sarkisian said in the statement. “They were instrumental in the leadership and development of countless young men, and they have left our program in a better place.”
Many would disagree, at least in terms of football numbers. Including the bowl game, the Huskies surrendered a record-worst 453.3 yards per game.
http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/ (http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/)
Your use of font size and bold type most certainly deliver an urgent, poignant message concerning the shortcomings of this hire. I find the mountains of evidence you have uncovered to be damning to the Cox hire. Absent of choices I am forced to believe what you say about this coaching hire. You are the "captain of my soul" in terms of thoughts related to said coaching hire and others.
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:popcorn:
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Skeet on twitter saying that Arthur Brown was most of the reason that our D looked improved, that it had nothing to do w/ Cosh, and that the DC doesn't really matter as long as you have good players.
So much going on here....
I mean, no one is going to argue the Arthur and Cosh part, but the last part is interesting. I thought the GPC mantra was that it is ok to not even try to recruit decent players, to just go get guys other ignore, then coach them up.
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The number of yards given up by Cox's defense at Washington really don't say anything about his ability to be a linebackers coach. As long as he never gets promoted to DC, this doesn't really bother me. I'm more disappointed with promoting Hayes than hiring Cox, honestly.
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what about when Nick Holt was DC at USC was he bad at coaching then???
because he was also fired from UW
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we'll see how good Cox is at recruiting when he's only allowed to do it on Friday nights during the season.
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Washington Defense a National Joke
Mike Cox fired because of it.
“I want to thank Nick Holt, Mike Cox, and Jeff Mills for their hard work and dedication throughout the last three years,” Sarkisian said in the statement. “They were instrumental in the leadership and development of countless young men, and they have left our program in a better place.”
Many would disagree, at least in terms of football numbers. Including the bowl game, the Huskies surrendered a record-worst 453.3 yards per game.
http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/ (http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/)
Your use of font size and bold type most certainly deliver an urgent, poignant message concerning the shortcomings of this hire. I find the mountains of evidence you have uncovered to be damning to the Cox hire. Absent of choices I am forced to believe what you say about this coaching hire. You are the "captain of my soul" in terms of thoughts related to said coaching hire and others.
Yeah, my evidence was a national ranking over the course of a season. Yours was dismissing one game against Baylor.
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How could a hire be any worse than Mike Cox? I mean, I know people are saying it's not bad, and even if that's true, how could it be worse?
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Washington Defense a National Joke
Mike Cox fired because of it.
“I want to thank Nick Holt, Mike Cox, and Jeff Mills for their hard work and dedication throughout the last three years,” Sarkisian said in the statement. “They were instrumental in the leadership and development of countless young men, and they have left our program in a better place.”
Many would disagree, at least in terms of football numbers. Including the bowl game, the Huskies surrendered a record-worst 453.3 yards per game.
http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/ (http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/)
Your use of font size and bold type most certainly deliver an urgent, poignant message concerning the shortcomings of this hire. I find the mountains of evidence you have uncovered to be damning to the Cox hire. Absent of choices I am forced to believe what you say about this coaching hire. You are the "captain of my soul" in terms of thoughts related to said coaching hire and others.
Yeah, my evidence was a national ranking over the course of a season. Yours was dismissing one game against Baylor.
one season = mountains of evidence.
I find it interesting John L. Smith kept him around for 17 years as he climbed the coaching ladder from Idaho to Utah State to Louisville to Michigan State. Say what you want about whether he had success or not at Michigan State because a lot of coaches never make that kind of climb. Of course most of those successful coaches don't keep bad coaches around very long.
but I'm certainly sold on that one season at Washington. Especially with no knowledge of injuries or personnel situations. I will forever relinquish my opinions moving forward to you on all such matters. You have cut through the muddy waters of decision-making in this profession and supplied me with clarity.
sincerely,
forever 909
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The Manhatter is very good at ending his posts. Very good with zingers.
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The Manhatter is very good at ending his posts. Very good with zingers.
Zing, Zap, Zallye... man that stings! :dubious:
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You bet your zazzum-blop.
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After years of quenching the thirsts of his friends and neighbors in the Northeast Kansas town of Atchison where he grew up, Grandpa Tanner decided to come to the big city and settled in Johnson County.
He envisioned a bar and grill where the service was always friendly, the food was tasty, the beer ice cold, and you could find Grandpa himself behind the bar chatting with the guests and quenching thirsts.
The first Tanner's opened on 87th Street in Lenexa, Kan., in 1985, with Grandpa Tanner and his friends building it from the ground up. From the very beginning, Tanner's Bar and Grill in Lenexa was a place where Johnson Countians from near and far traveled for an after-work drink and dinner, to watch the local boys earn another victory on TV, and to relax in a friendly atmosphere.
As you might expect, word traveled fast. Grandpa Tanner was serving up tasty food, and Tanner's Bar and Grill was THE place to hang out and watch the big games on the big screens. It wasn't long before people in other parts of the city wanted Grandpa Tanner's famous Chicken Lips©, Boogas©, and steak specials closer to their homes, too.
So Grandpa Tanner and friends opened up a new location at 119th Street (right off 69 highway) a few years later.
Not to leave out his friendly Missouri neighbors who had come across State Line so many times to visit the Kansas locations, Grandpa Tanner set out to provide even more refreshment to the Show-Me side of the big city, adding two more Bar and Grills: one in historic Waldo at 74th Terrace and Broadway, and a location downtown on 10th Street and Broadway.
Now with four locations around town, Grandpa Tanner was a busy man, but he made sure he visited all the locations as much as possible to make sure the Chicken Lips©, the Boogas©, and the beer met his satisfaction. Grandpa Tanner was pleased when he saw all the people coming to all the locations to hang out with their neighbors and friends.
Never one for idle hands, Grandpa Tanner kept on building Tanner's Bar and Grills, trying to keep up with the demands of his customers. He added locations in Lee's Summit and Blue Springs .
Grandpa Tanner was a busy man. But, he was a happy man. His dream of being "The Friendly Purveyors of Good Times, Fine Food and The Pause That Refreshes" had become a reality. Grandpa Tanner had come to the big city and done well.
In 2003, Grandpa Tanner decided to expand once again. Johnson County continues to build south with new businesses and new homes, and Grandpa Tanner wanted to make sure the newcomers to the area had a place to go for refreshment. A new location at 143rd and Metcalf opened. With more televisions than any other Tanner's location, 143rd and Metcalf quickly became the place to watch KU football and basketball, the Chiefs, and every other game on television.
Other towns are seeing how the good the great people of Kansas City have it, and are demanding a Tanner's of their own. A New location opened in the fall of 2003 in Omaha, Neb. Nebraska, Creighton and UNO fans can be found celebrating their teams victories at the location in Omaha.
Grandpa Tanner doesn't make it around to all the locations as often as he would like. Driving around the big city all the time is a big task. But he still likes to stop in one of the Tanner's location every single day of the week, just to make sure everything is up to his high standards.
The next time you visit Tanner's Bar and Grill, take a peek behind the bar. You just might see Grandpa Tanner, serving up drinks and chatting with the customers, just as he's done for more than 20 years.
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Overall this must be a decent hire. I was expecting a much larger meltdown today. It is noted that some of you have not disappointed.
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It's really not that Mike Cox or Tom Hayes are awful, it's just awful that they are the best we could do.
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I was at Tanners last night having my Royals season ticket draft :D
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Washington Defense a National Joke
Mike Cox fired because of it.
“I want to thank Nick Holt, Mike Cox, and Jeff Mills for their hard work and dedication throughout the last three years,” Sarkisian said in the statement. “They were instrumental in the leadership and development of countless young men, and they have left our program in a better place.”
Many would disagree, at least in terms of football numbers. Including the bowl game, the Huskies surrendered a record-worst 453.3 yards per game.
http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/ (http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/)
Your use of font size and bold type most certainly deliver an urgent, poignant message concerning the shortcomings of this hire. I find the mountains of evidence you have uncovered to be damning to the Cox hire. Absent of choices I am forced to believe what you say about this coaching hire. You are the "captain of my soul" in terms of thoughts related to said coaching hire and others.
Yeah, my evidence was a national ranking over the course of a season. Yours was dismissing one game against Baylor.
one season = mountains of evidence.
I find it interesting John L. Smith kept him around for 17 years as he climbed the coaching ladder from Idaho to Utah State to Louisville to Michigan State. Say what you want about whether he had success or not at Michigan State because a lot of coaches never make that kind of climb. Of course most of those successful coaches don't keep bad coaches around very long.
but I'm certainly sold on that one season at Washington. Especially with no knowledge of injuries or personnel situations. I will forever relinquish my opinions moving forward to you on all such matters. You have cut through the muddy waters of decision-making in this profession and supplied me with clarity.
sincerely,
forever 909
the Huskies surrendered a record-worst 453.3 yards per game
:lol:
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10-3
59-20 vs ku
ISWT
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No more Tanner's in Wichita. :bawl:
Thank God I have a small collection of Tanner's plastic cups.
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Washington Defense a National Joke
Mike Cox fired because of it.
“I want to thank Nick Holt, Mike Cox, and Jeff Mills for their hard work and dedication throughout the last three years,” Sarkisian said in the statement. “They were instrumental in the leadership and development of countless young men, and they have left our program in a better place.”
Many would disagree, at least in terms of football numbers. Including the bowl game, the Huskies surrendered a record-worst 453.3 yards per game.
http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/ (http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/)
Your use of font size and bold type most certainly deliver an urgent, poignant message concerning the shortcomings of this hire. I find the mountains of evidence you have uncovered to be damning to the Cox hire. Absent of choices I am forced to believe what you say about this coaching hire. You are the "captain of my soul" in terms of thoughts related to said coaching hire and others.
Yeah, my evidence was a national ranking over the course of a season. Yours was dismissing one game against Baylor.
one season = mountains of evidence.
I find it interesting John L. Smith kept him around for 17 years as he climbed the coaching ladder from Idaho to Utah State to Louisville to Michigan State. Say what you want about whether he had success or not at Michigan State because a lot of coaches never make that kind of climb. Of course most of those successful coaches don't keep bad coaches around very long.
but I'm certainly sold on that one season at Washington. Especially with no knowledge of injuries or personnel situations. I will forever relinquish my opinions moving forward to you on all such matters. You have cut through the muddy waters of decision-making in this profession and supplied me with clarity.
sincerely,
forever 909
the Huskies surrendered a record-worst 453.3 yards per game
:lol:
Due to yet another emphatic and impenetrable reply I'm forced to ask how may I serve you, sir? One thing I wasn't aware of prior to reading in this thread is that the LBs are solely responsible for the other 8 positions on the defense and the LB coach responsible for more than just his LB duties. I stand corrected and even in doing so I am standing as strong as a wet noodle in high gusting winds. The winds of 909.
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more.
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Due to his experience in WA. I think it's safe to say our LBs are going to WAbash the hell out of the competition next year!!!! :excited:
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:dubious:
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more.
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Washington Defense a National Joke
Mike Cox fired because of it.
“I want to thank Nick Holt, Mike Cox, and Jeff Mills for their hard work and dedication throughout the last three years,” Sarkisian said in the statement. “They were instrumental in the leadership and development of countless young men, and they have left our program in a better place.”
Many would disagree, at least in terms of football numbers. Including the bowl game, the Huskies surrendered a record-worst 453.3 yards per game.
http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/ (http://uwfootball.sportspressnw.com/2011/12/31/huskies-fire-holt-two-other-assistant-coaches/)
Your use of font size and bold type most certainly deliver an urgent, poignant message concerning the shortcomings of this hire. I find the mountains of evidence you have uncovered to be damning to the Cox hire. Absent of choices I am forced to believe what you say about this coaching hire. You are the "captain of my soul" in terms of thoughts related to said coaching hire and others.
Yeah, my evidence was a national ranking over the course of a season. Yours was dismissing one game against Baylor.
one season = mountains of evidence.
I find it interesting John L. Smith kept him around for 17 years as he climbed the coaching ladder from Idaho to Utah State to Louisville to Michigan State. Say what you want about whether he had success or not at Michigan State because a lot of coaches never make that kind of climb. Of course most of those successful coaches don't keep bad coaches around very long.
but I'm certainly sold on that one season at Washington. Especially with no knowledge of injuries or personnel situations. I will forever relinquish my opinions moving forward to you on all such matters. You have cut through the muddy waters of decision-making in this profession and supplied me with clarity.
sincerely,
forever 909
the Huskies surrendered a record-worst 453.3 yards per game
:lol:
Due to yet another emphatic and impenetrable reply I'm forced to ask how may I serve you, sir? One thing I wasn't aware of prior to reading in this thread is that the LBs are solely responsible for the other 8 positions on the defense and the LB coach responsible for more than just his LB duties. I stand corrected and even in doing so I am standing as strong as a wet noodle in high gusting winds. The winds of 909.
“They were instrumental in the leadership and development of countless young men, and they have left our program in a better place.”
Many would disagree...
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no mas. I am withered and worn. broken down. battered. bruised. succumbed with tail between my legs. I cannot compete on with this scale of font. the words of a sportswriter are not to my musings and especially when those words are in 8" letters.
game-set-909! :frown:
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Was he just fired? Yes. Yes he was. That's something.
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Pretty much ever position coach has been fired at some point.
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Still, it's something. I didn't say it was everything, but it's something.
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:facepalm:
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my god, he is the linebackers coach
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Go Qhatz
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my god, he is the linebackers coach
Yea, not like he can really do worse than Cosh
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It's threads like these that make watching Frank's offense bearable
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my god, he is the linebackers coach
Again, it's more the principle of the thing.
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Recruiting coordinator under Sexy Steve Sarkisian makes me feel good.
Did he recruit Jake Locker? I don't know, but he could have!
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Recruiting coordinator under Sexy Steve Sarkisian makes me feel good.
Did he recruit Jake Locker? I don't know, but he could have!
I don't see why not!
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Want to know how to make a tired promotion look amazing? Hire some guy who just got fired and is actually named Mike Cox.
I don't know about you all but there is something very strange and awkward about Mike Cox coming on the staff. I feel something deep down is about to arise in Manhattan within our football team mostly in an upward and positive direction but that remains to be seen. However, by and Large it's possible that our defense is going to come up big in tight situations like in the red zone and midfield. No doubt we should be Rock Solid Cox Hard in 2012. Not only that but I have a feeling that we'll be very stiff against Big 12 competition, no one knows how to get better penetration with the men in the middle than Mike Cox. I really hope we didn't blow our wad with this hire. Very ballsy for sure.
Go Cats!!! :ksu:
fyp
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All joking and melting down aside - what kind of recruiting history does MC have? What kind of defensive philosophy will TH instill? Honest questions that I'm too lazy to research myself.
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What kind of defensive philosophy will TH instill?
I don't know but I'm guessing it will include something about half-price appies during happy hour or something.
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Home run hires? LOL!!!
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Chicken lips defense. :lynchmob:
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Where did Mark Mangino work prior to coaching at KSU? Oh yeah, a freaking highway tollbooth. A Tanner's manager is a step up.
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A while back, I entered Chris Cosh into a Top Gun Callsign Generator:
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Well, I have repeated this honor for our new DC and LB coach:
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"Spurt"?
:sdeek:
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:horrorsurprise:
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That must be short for "expert".
:dunno:
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home run hire mike cox will have the vandals coached up in no time
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What kind of defensive philosophy will TH instill?
I don't know but I'm guessing it will include something about half-price appies during happy hour or something.
Do old people even order appies? I know they are all about early bird specials. The early bird special would be a good new name for the football board, imo.
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What kind of defensive philosophy will TH instill?
I don't know but I'm guessing it will include something about half-price appies during happy hour or something.
Do old people even order appies? I know they are all about early bird specials. The early bird special would be a good new name for the football board, imo.
"The always blinking turn signal"
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"The always blinking turn signal"
:lol:
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LOL :dunno:
COLLEGE STATION, Texas—Matt Wallerstedt, former defensive coordinator and associate head coach at the Air Force Academy, has been named the new Texas A&M linebackers coach as Aggie head football coach Kevin Sumlin completed his full-time staff.
“Matt has done a great job at the Air Force Academy and he will be a great addition to our staff,” Sumlin said. “He is another coach on our staff with coordinator experience as well as experience serving as a recruiting coordinator (2006 Kansas State).”
Wallerstedt served as the associate head coach, defensive coordinator and inside linebackers coach at Air Force the past two seasons. He had served the two previous seasons as assistant head coach and inside linebackers coach for the Falcons.
A 1984 high school graduate from Manhattan High School in Kansas, Wallerstedt was a four-year letterman at Kansas State leading the Wildcats in tackles as a junior and senior and earning All-America honors as a linebacker for KSU in 1987.
He began his coaching career in 1988 as a student assistant at Kansas State and served two years as a graduate assistant at Arizona State before taking a break from coaching and entering private business. His first full-time coaching position came at Fort Hays State for two years as a defensive line coach. From Fort Hays State he went to Emporia State for one year as a defensive backs coach and then landed at the University of Wyoming for six seasons working with the defensive line and inside linebackers. He was promoted to the Cowboys’ defensive coordinator for the 2000-02 seasons. Wallerstedt spent one year at North Alabama as the defensive coordinator and two years at Akron before returning to his alma mater of Kansas State as linebackers coach and recruiting coordinator in 2006. He added special teams coordinator to his responsibilities in 2007 before moving to Colorado Springs and the Air Force Academy in 2008.
Wallerstedt is married to the former Josie Lewis of Lawrence, Kansas, and they have a 12-year-old son named Cal.
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LB coach at aTm. not even DC. meanwhile, our LB coach is recently fired Mike Cox of worst defense of all time fame and our DC is some 80 year old who served jalapeno cheese balls not less than 5 years ago. sounds good. sounds good.
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LB coach at aTm. not even DC. meanwhile, our LB coach is recently fired Mike Cox of worst defense of all time fame and our DC is some 80 year old who served jalapeno cheese balls not less than 5 years ago. sounds good. sounds good.
Holy crap...they serve jalapeno cheese balls at Tanners?
See you guys in a couple of hours.
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LB coach at aTm. not even DC. meanwhile, our LB coach is recently fired Mike Cox of worst defense of all time fame and our DC is some 80 year old who served jalapeno cheese balls not less than 5 years ago. sounds good. sounds good.
:eek: :bawl: Don't worry Steve,; someone will have a heart attack before this is all over... hopefully not during a game. :pray:
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eff, didn't see aTm hired Sumlin. Glad they're afraid of Texas.
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I'm going on record:
Mike Cox will have a LONG career at K-State.
Mike Cox will be know for a HARD noise, IN YOUR FACE style of coaching.
Chase Mejia asked Mike Cox for tips on how to get aHEAD in life. Look where Chase is today.
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Dude, seriously. Dick jokes? Still? Does your mom still breastfeed you?
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eff, didn't see aTm hired Sumlin. Glad they're afraid of Texas.
do you live under a rock?
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I'm with jtksu on this. Try to have a more sophisticated sense of humor, such as this:
This POS, hands down. It's like sports have become secondary to deep throating around here. This board will forever be known as the biggest collection of cum guzzling retards. Ever. I'm just glad I was here to shoot my wisdom on your faces while the boat went down. Oh, if Dax ben or hemmy want to show their faggy cum soaked faces around my tailgate at arrowhead, I will spare your sorry asses from my fists of fury cause I don't like to punch chicks or reyards. But I got month problem socking a chioke artist like trim aka slim aka needle dick aka guy with a small penis who likes to talk crap but will only fight people by choking them in a public polace when they're not looking and themn run away. Tirm=bitch.
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Dude, seriously. Dick jokes? Still? Does your mom still breastfeed you?
The thing I hate most about the Cox hire is that it's going to be a resurgence of tooootally clever dick jokes. Remember about five or six years ago when the Campus Fourum was full of barely clever jokes about how much "Cox [Cable] sucks"? Yeah, thought we were done with that crap.
:flush:
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Dude, seriously. Dick jokes? Still? Does your mom still breastfeed you?
The thing I hate most about the Cox hire is that it's going to be a resurgence of tooootally clever dick jokes. Remember about five or six years ago when the Campus Fourum was full of barely clever jokes about how much "Cox [Cable] sucks"? Yeah, thought we were done with that crap.
:flush:
I think we are finally ready for breastfeeding jokes :lick:
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Kinda sad when someone digs through 2 yrs of my posts to find one that even I don't remember. Dude, did you seriously read like 5000 of my posts or did you just pick one of your favorites from your memory? Also- that post was rough ridin' awesome.
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Kinda sad when someone digs through 2 yrs of my posts to find one that even I don't remember. Dude, did you seriously read like 5000 of my posts or did you just pick one of your favorites from your memory? Also- that post was rough ridin' awesome.
Just typed dick and jtksu in the search. Pulled up right after all the posts calling you a dick
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lol
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:lol:
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like I said, 5000 posts.
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When did this thread become so :blah: :lol: all I got to add :thumbsup:
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Dude, seriously. Dick jokes? Still? Does your mom still breastfeed you?
The thing I hate most about the Cox hire is that it's going to be a resurgence of tooootally clever dick jokes. Remember about five or six years ago when the Campus Fourum was full of barely clever jokes about how much "Cox [Cable] sucks"? Yeah, thought we were done with that crap.
:flush:
You are so very correct.
I'm ready for some intelligent dialogue about how good everyone believes our defensive coaching staff is going to be.
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Dude, seriously. Dick jokes? Still? Does your mom still breastfeed you?
The thing I hate most about the Cox hire is that it's going to be a resurgence of tooootally clever dick jokes. Remember about five or six years ago when the Campus Fourum was full of barely clever jokes about how much "Cox [Cable] sucks"? Yeah, thought we were done with that crap.
:flush:
You are so very correct.
I'm ready for some intelligent dialogue about how good everyone believes our defensive coaching staff is going to be.
Jees HELLHAMMER, the :lol: keep a comming.
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Mike Cox gonna rise up again!
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Mike Cox gonna rise up again!
When the Strength Coach gets done with the LB's and Cox gets them on the field; they'll be known as Cox's hard, men. :love:
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Bill knows he's going to to have to do all of the work anyway. So he's just promoting from within etc, hiring the unemployed, because he won't be here long, and the staff will just be let go when the new coach is hired anyway.
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Mike Cox gonna rise up again!
When the Strength Coach gets done with the LB's and Cox gets them on the field; they'll be known as Cox's hard, men. :love:
I'm not sure this is actually true. :tongue:
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Hayes will be good.
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Hayes will be good.
Please tell me why you believe this. I'm looking for a reason to be enthused.
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eff, didn't see aTm hired Sumlin. Glad they're afraid of Texas.
He's a great coach and all, but they are going to be horrible this year and I don't think those racists will give him more than 2 years to win 10 games.