Author Topic: K-State DC Thread (Read 188303 times)

CNS · « **Reply #375 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:39:33 PM »

Venzy would take it now. Didn't before because he thought he was about to light the world on fire career wise. 10 yrs later and he is still not a HC at a decent school.

He will take it because he will see it as his best path to be a BCS HC whether promised to him or not.

KSUTOMMY · « **Reply #376 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:39:45 PM »

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Cosh notified at least one coworker of his move this afternoon.

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The early short list to fill Cosh's shoes obviously includes Jim Leavitt, Brent Venables and Joe Bob Clements.

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Multiple sources confirm K-State defensive coordinator Chris Cosh will accept the same position at USF. kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CI…

CNS · « **Reply #377 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:42:59 PM »

Minimizing having decent coaches is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Snyder likes details, but that doesn't mean that we can succeed with retards at all of the controls.

Having to do someone's job for them and checking in to make sure someone is doing their job then adding some input are two very different things.

Cosh should have been gone a while ago.

Also, I know that Venzy had better athletes at OU than we will be able to get, but his D's made me fear for the safety of others on the field at times.

wabash909 · « **Reply #378 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:44:15 PM »

Folks, if bob strawn is in full support of Dana Dimel as our next head coach, so am I.

Let's stop the crazy talk around here of Sean Snyder and get serious about the future of K-State football.

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SimmonsFirstCat

New walk-on to the team

Re: Is there any question at the point that Cosh was "asked" to leave?

With no evidence to support my hypotheses, here's my opinion: I think Dimel is our next head coach, so I think the new DC will be someone who has a connection to him. Mike Eckler has that connection because he played here while DD coached here. But I think it will be Wallerstadt because he has worked for DD at Wyoming. At least I think he did.

tmcats

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manhappiness

Re: Is there any question at the point that Cosh was "asked" to leave?

i agree on dimel. emaw.

felix rex · « **Reply #379 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:46:23 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on January 17, 2012, 01:11:17 PM

Quote from: Belvis Noland on January 17, 2012, 01:07:41 PM
Quote from: michigancat on January 17, 2012, 01:04:43 PM

Actually there were plenty of people here saying that firing Cosh would make no difference, for a variety of reasons including the fact that we wouldn't get anbody good to replace him. Reminders that Snyder isn't as great as he could be are fair reasons to fire up the bitching machine.

A lot of things in life "aren't as great as they could be." But still aren't worth bitching about. Like a 10-2 season, for instance.

Great point. The possibility of hiring Joe Bob Clements to Defensive Coordinator (or co-DC) is exactly like a 10-2 season. Neither are worth bitching about.

Yeah. Maybe I am just all meltdowned out this week, but in order to be disappointed by a Joe Bob like hire, I suppose I'd have to expect something different.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #380 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:47:44 PM »

We demand Venables.

And we demand him NOW.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #381 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:50:06 PM »

Come home Venzy and we'll dethrone Stoops together.

Panjandrum · « **Reply #382 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:51:23 PM »

I love Bob Strawn's take on the world. It's like he lives in some sort of strange, Norman Rockwellian dimension where everyone sits at a diner counter, sipping down nickel Coke's from the soda fountain, all while watching enormous amounts of women's basketball.

It's just a window into a universe that makes me want to kill myself, but it at least gives me solace that I'm not the biggest idiot in the world.

Quote from: wabash909 on January 17, 2012, 01:44:15 PM

Folks, if bob strawn is in full support of Dana Dimel as our next head coach, so am I.

Let's stop the crazy talk around here of Sean Snyder and get serious about the future of K-State football.

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SimmonsFirstCat

New walk-on to the team

Re: Is there any question at the point that Cosh was "asked" to leave?

With no evidence to support my hypotheses, here's my opinion: I think Dimel is our next head coach, so I think the new DC will be someone who has a connection to him. Mike Eckler has that connection because he played here while DD coached here. But I think it will be Wallerstadt because he has worked for DD at Wyoming. At least I think he did.

tmcats

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manhappiness

Re: Is there any question at the point that Cosh was "asked" to leave?

i agree on dimel. emaw.

michigancat · « **Reply #383 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:52:15 PM »

Quote from: CNS Casey on January 17, 2012, 01:42:59 PM

Also, I know that Venzy had better athletes at OU than we will be able to get

Venzy could, nay, WOULD change that.

Skipper44 · « **Reply #384 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:52:49 PM »

Quote from: Limestone on January 17, 2012, 01:47:44 PM

We demand Venables.

And we demand him NOW.

mods, please modify and and this to emotes

CNS · « **Reply #385 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:58:00 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on January 17, 2012, 01:52:15 PM

Quote from: CNS Casey on January 17, 2012, 01:42:59 PM
Also, I know that Venzy had better athletes at OU than we will be able to get

Venzy could, nay, WOULD change that.

I BELIEVE

Fuktard · « **Reply #386 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:58:40 PM »

Quote from: emawblast on January 17, 2012, 01:01:19 PM

Quote from: Fuktard on January 17, 2012, 12:59:22 PM
Any DC that will actually SCHEME for a game versus running a rough ridin' base defense 95% of the time regardless of who we are playing or what the score is will be a huge improvement

i can assure you, with full confidence, that what you implied in this statement is incorrect.

I would appreciate you assuring me very much. Please provide any info on frequency of stunts, twists, blitzes, smokes, coverages, defensive audibles and any other data that you have that provide credence to Cosh's ability to scheme as a DC. I actually look forward to learning more about WHY he was a piss poor DC. Or maybe he was incredible but our players all sucked?

I would also add that any DC that doesn't make a statement like "as long as we score more points than the other team, thats all that matters" would be an improvement over the pos we had.

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #387 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:58:51 PM »

Come home, Venzy. Come home.

Panjandrum · « **Reply #388 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:59:21 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on January 17, 2012, 01:52:15 PM

Quote from: CNS Casey on January 17, 2012, 01:42:59 PM
Also, I know that Venzy had better athletes at OU than we will be able to get

Venzy could, nay, WOULD change that.

It's now or never for Brent. This is the absolute perfect time for this.

It's the succession plan we always needed.

Paul Moscow · « **Reply #389 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:00:49 PM »

Grab a raft and float in these calm waters, Brent. Float to your destiny.

CNS · « **Reply #390 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:02:35 PM »

Quote from: Panjandrum on January 17, 2012, 01:59:21 PM

Quote from: michigancat on January 17, 2012, 01:52:15 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on January 17, 2012, 01:42:59 PM
Also, I know that Venzy had better athletes at OU than we will be able to get

Venzy could, nay, WOULD change that.

It's now or never for Brent. This is the absolute perfect time for this.

It's the succession plan we always needed.

Even if it isn't the succession plan, it would give me a reasonable option to believe is the plan, rather than constantly hating part of KSU knowing that Sean is it.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #391 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:12:06 PM »

Tough call for Venables here. On the one hand, you could stay in Norman where your best players OD on oxy and your boss just force fed his loser ass brother on you. Where the fanbase calls for your head any time you let UT score a TD.

or move to Manhattan. Home of 10-2 seasons and calm waters with a fanbase that will build a rough ridin' statute of you mounting a donor's daughter if you just hold OSU under 500 yards.

Tough call here indeed. I'm glad I don't have to make it.

wabash909 · « **Reply #392 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:14:46 PM »

Come home to Manhattan to atone for your mistakes, Venzy. All is forgiven.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #393 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:15:13 PM »

We need Currie and The Animal on it.

This is why you are here guys. It's your moment.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #394 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:15:28 PM »

Quote from: Limestone on January 17, 2012, 02:12:06 PM

Tough call for Venables here. On the one hand, you could stay in Norman where your best players OD on oxy and your boss just force fed his loser ass brother on you. Where the fanbase calls for your head any time you let UT score a TD.

or move to Manhattan. Home of 10-2 seasons and calm waters with a fanbase that will build a rough ridin' statute of you mounting a donor's daughter if you just hold OSU under 500 yards.

Tough call here indeed. I'm glad I don't have to make it.

Ya, good point. Go to Clemson or West Virgina where the HC position is locked up for sometime. Or go to a school where you played and coached, and be HCIW and try to get redemption on Stoops in company. Ya, I just don't know what's best for him here.

wabash909 · « **Reply #395 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:16:20 PM »

Quote from: Panjandrum on January 17, 2012, 01:51:23 PM

I love Bob Strawn's take on the world. It's like he lives in some sort of strange, Norman Rockwellian dimension where everyone sits at a diner counter, sipping down nickel Coke's from the soda fountain, all while watching enormous amounts of women's basketball.

It's just a window into a universe that makes me want to kill myself, but it at least gives me solace that I'm not the biggest idiot in the world.

Awesome.

Trim · « **Reply #396 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:17:27 PM »

Quote from: Limestone on January 17, 2012, 02:15:13 PM

We need Currie and The Animal on it.

This is why you are here guys. It's your moment.

You know Bosco wants his name back on one of the boards here.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #397 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:17:44 PM »

Quote from: fanningksu on January 17, 2012, 02:15:28 PM

Quote from: Limestone on January 17, 2012, 02:12:06 PM
Tough call for Venables here. On the one hand, you could stay in Norman where your best players OD on oxy and your boss just force fed his loser ass brother on you. Where the fanbase calls for your head any time you let UT score a TD.

or move to Manhattan. Home of 10-2 seasons and calm waters with a fanbase that will build a rough ridin' statute of you mounting a donor's daughter if you just hold OSU under 500 yards.

Tough call here indeed. I'm glad I don't have to make it.
Ya, good point. Go to Clemson or West Virgina where the HC position is locked up for sometime. Or go to a school where you played and coached, and be HCIW and try to get redemption on Stoops in company. Ya, I just don't know what's best for him here.

Move 1500 miles away from your recruiting base that you busted your ass on creating for a decade vs. move to the ACC and recruit against the SEC schools. Really tough. This thing is a coin flip.

puniraptor · « **Reply #398 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:18:29 PM »

Also I think they may be more donors' daughters here if that helps his choice.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #399 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:19:07 PM »

Quote from: Trim on January 17, 2012, 02:17:27 PM

Quote from: Limestone on January 17, 2012, 02:15:13 PM
We need Currie and The Animal on it.

This is why you are here guys. It's your moment.

You know Bosco wants his name back on one of the boards here.

Well, I think we both know that goEMAW exec rewards performance.