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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #975 on: January 27, 2012, 06:22:10 PM »
I feel like this is worthy of a meltdown. woof.

oh it absolutely is. i haven't melted down about anything in about a year btw. no bball or fball game melt downs for me at all. not even the baylor bball game this year. but this is up there with giving tate a scholarship and sean a coaching position. just absolutely beyond belief. i mean the air force rough ridin' defensive coordinator is a god damn linebackers coach and grew up in the god damn town that you want him to move back to and played football at the god damn university that you want him to coach at and you can't rough ridin' get him to come and replace the defensive coordinator/linebackers coach that just left? it's rough ridin' airforce. the guy came here before for a rough ridin' linebackers coaching position. what the eff is happening?  i mean honest to god just what the eff is going on?
Real question, why didn't Snyder get him when he came back?  He left because of Prince, not Snyder.  Seems like he would have been an easy get.  :dunno:
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Re: Re: Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #976 on: January 27, 2012, 06:50:24 PM »
Real question, why didn't Snyder get him when he came back?  He left because of Prince, not Snyder.  Seems like he would have been an easy get.  :dunno:

Um, because Cosh was available?

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #977 on: January 27, 2012, 07:12:07 PM »
This all just makes me sad

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #978 on: January 27, 2012, 07:16:16 PM »
Was just sitting here pondering what a laughable a notion it was to think that Snyder was "encouraging" Cosh to interview elsewhere this offseason...Like Snyder really had a plan in place to upgrade the defense and potentially bring in a successor.  

Lol.  It's like he purposely punishes us for being a bunch of rubes.

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« Reply #979 on: January 27, 2012, 07:47:26 PM »
Real question, why didn't Snyder get him when he came back?  He left because of Prince, not Snyder.  Seems like he would have been an easy get.  :dunno:

Um, because Cosh was available?

 Duh.
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« Reply #980 on: January 27, 2012, 08:10:44 PM »
I think OB is and has been in take what you can get mode.   I'm becoming of the belief that there's a long list of: "Thanks, but no thanks Bill"  Who the eff would want to work for him?   People talk crap on KSU and/or Manhattan like it's an undesirable place to be a coach - but I'm really starting to believe it's Bill.  I've met several players that secretly hate his rough ridin' guts but talk about what a great person he is out in the open - Wondering if that's how almost every coach that knows him feels. 

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« Reply #981 on: January 27, 2012, 08:16:15 PM »
I think OB is and has been in take what you can get mode.   I'm becoming of the belief that there's a long list of: "Thanks, but no thanks Bill"  Who the eff would want to work for him?   People talk crap on KSU and/or Manhattan like it's an undesirable place to be a coach - but I'm really starting to believe it's Bill.  I've met several players that secretly hate his rough ridin' guts but talk about what a great person he is out in the open - Wondering if that's how almost every coach that knows him feels. 

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #982 on: January 27, 2012, 08:20:09 PM »
I think OB is and has been in take what you can get mode.   I'm becoming of the belief that there's a long list of: "Thanks, but no thanks Bill"  Who the eff would want to work for him?   People talk crap on KSU and/or Manhattan like it's an undesirable place to be a coach - but I'm really starting to believe it's Bill.  I've met several players that secretly hate his rough ridin' guts but talk about what a great person he is out in the open - Wondering if that's how almost every coach that knows him feels. 

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #983 on: January 27, 2012, 08:48:47 PM »
I think OB is and has been in take what you can get mode.   I'm becoming of the belief that there's a long list of: "Thanks, but no thanks Bill"  Who the eff would want to work for him?   People talk crap on KSU and/or Manhattan like it's an undesirable place to be a coach - but I'm really starting to believe it's Bill.  I've met several players that secretly hate his rough ridin' guts but talk about what a great person he is out in the open - Wondering if that's how almost every coach that knows him feels. 

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #984 on: January 27, 2012, 09:00:14 PM »
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« Reply #985 on: January 27, 2012, 09:18:46 PM »
I think OB is and has been in take what you can get mode.   I'm becoming of the belief that there's a long list of: "Thanks, but no thanks Bill"  Who the eff would want to work for him?   People talk crap on KSU and/or Manhattan like it's an undesirable place to be a coach - but I'm really starting to believe it's Bill.  I've met several players that secretly hate his rough ridin' guts but talk about what a great person he is out in the open - Wondering if that's how almost every coach that knows him feels. 

#FYBS
If you were a young coach, would you work for a 72 year old coach that could retire within the next few years.  Please serious answers only.
If a young up and coming coach wanted to pad his resume'  and the only real cost was to work for a taskmaster control freak workaholic for a couple years then yes I think there are candidates out there.   :grin:  JMO

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« Reply #986 on: January 27, 2012, 09:19:21 PM »
Lest we all forget the Snyder Way

Have we all forgotten the Snyder Way and how he built K-State from the worst college football program in the country to the "Greatest Turnaround in College Football History"?

Go back to the beginning and early years of the Snyder v.1 and look how he handled coaching promotions.

Bob Stoops was a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent secondary coach.

Jim Leavitt was a linebackers coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.

Bxrent Venables was a grad assistant coach. He eventually moved up to linebackers coach (an internal hire) after proving himself as a grad aXssistant. He then moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.

Mike Stoops was also a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself as a top-notch defensive backs coach.

Dana Dimel started off as an offensive GA under Coach Snyder back in 1989. He eventually moved up to tight ends coach, running backs coach, offensive line coach, run game coordinator, and finally co-offensive coordinator (all internal hires).

You see the precedent?

Just like he molds and builds young men into the best players they can be - get a little better every day - during their years playing in the program, LHCBS likes to surround himself with quality position coaches, grad assistants and personnel that he can also mold and build into future position coaches and coordinators.

If LHCBS believes that Blake Seiler would make a great defensive ends coach, and full time assistant on the staff, he should know after three years of tutoring and teaching him the Wildcat Way.

It's no different than Venables, Dimel, Joe Bob or a host of other successful coaches who paid their dues and worked their way up the ranks under Coach Snyder through the years.

And if after working with Tom Hayes for a season coaching the defensive secondary, he believes Hayes can effectively move up to co-defensive coordinator, I will not object.

LHCBS v.2 surrounded himself again with young, aspiring, quality coaches that he can teach and mold daily to fill in possible future openings on the staff. Jonathon Beasley, David Allen, Blake Seiler, Joe Gordon . . . and more have been groomed for three years now for these opportunities.

I know this, if LHCBS believes the best candidate(s) for staff openings are presently in house, he has a brilliant resume of successes promoting from within.

Go Cats!

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #987 on: January 27, 2012, 09:40:30 PM »
Lest we all forget the Snyder Way

Have we all forgotten the Snyder Way and how he built K-State from the worst college football program in the country to the "Greatest Turnaround in College Football History"?

Go back to the beginning and early years of the Snyder v.1 and look how he handled coaching promotions.

Bob Stoops was a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent secondary coach.

Jim Leavitt was a linebackers coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.

Bxrent Venables was a grad assistant coach. He eventually moved up to linebackers coach (an internal hire) after proving himself as a grad aXssistant. He then moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.

Mike Stoops was also a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself as a top-notch defensive backs coach.

Dana Dimel started off as an offensive GA under Coach Snyder back in 1989. He eventually moved up to tight ends coach, running backs coach, offensive line coach, run game coordinator, and finally co-offensive coordinator (all internal hires).

You see the precedent?

Just like he molds and builds young men into the best players they can be - get a little better every day - during their years playing in the program, LHCBS likes to surround himself with quality position coaches, grad assistants and personnel that he can also mold and build into future position coaches and coordinators.

If LHCBS believes that Blake Seiler would make a great defensive ends coach, and full time assistant on the staff, he should know after three years of tutoring and teaching him the Wildcat Way.

It's no different than Venables, Dimel, Joe Bob or a host of other successful coaches who paid their dues and worked their way up the ranks under Coach Snyder through the years.

And if after working with Tom Hayes for a season coaching the defensive secondary, he believes Hayes can effectively move up to co-defensive coordinator, I will not object.

LHCBS v.2 surrounded himself again with young, aspiring, quality coaches that he can teach and mold daily to fill in possible future openings on the staff. Jonathon Beasley, David Allen, Blake Seiler, Joe Gordon . . . and more have been groomed for three years now for these opportunities.

I know this, if LHCBS believes the best candidate(s) for staff openings are presently in house, he has a brilliant resume of successes promoting from within.

Go Cats!



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« Reply #988 on: January 27, 2012, 09:42:58 PM »
Lest we all forget the Snyder Way

Have we all forgotten the Snyder Way and how he built K-State from the worst college football program in the country to the "Greatest Turnaround in College Football History"?

Go back to the beginning and early years of the Snyder v.1 and look how he handled coaching promotions.

Bob Stoops was a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent secondary coach.

Jim Leavitt was a linebackers coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.

Bxrent Venables was a grad assistant coach. He eventually moved up to linebackers coach (an internal hire) after proving himself as a grad aXssistant. He then moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.

Mike Stoops was also a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself as a top-notch defensive backs coach.

Dana Dimel started off as an offensive GA under Coach Snyder back in 1989. He eventually moved up to tight ends coach, running backs coach, offensive line coach, run game coordinator, and finally co-offensive coordinator (all internal hires).

You see the precedent?

Just like he molds and builds young men into the best players they can be - get a little better every day - during their years playing in the program, LHCBS likes to surround himself with quality position coaches, grad assistants and personnel that he can also mold and build into future position coaches and coordinators.

If LHCBS believes that Blake Seiler would make a great defensive ends coach, and full time assistant on the staff, he should know after three years of tutoring and teaching him the Wildcat Way.

It's no different than Venables, Dimel, Joe Bob or a host of other successful coaches who paid their dues and worked their way up the ranks under Coach Snyder through the years.

And if after working with Tom Hayes for a season coaching the defensive secondary, he believes Hayes can effectively move up to co-defensive coordinator, I will not object.

LHCBS v.2 surrounded himself again with young, aspiring, quality coaches that he can teach and mold daily to fill in possible future openings on the staff. Jonathon Beasley, David Allen, Blake Seiler, Joe Gordon . . . and more have been groomed for three years now for these opportunities.

I know this, if LHCBS believes the best candidate(s) for staff openings are presently in house, he has a brilliant resume of successes promoting from within.

Go Cats!



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« Reply #989 on: January 27, 2012, 10:55:17 PM »
Has any fanbase hated their coach this much after a 10 win season? I hope not. This much hate deserves to make history.

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« Reply #990 on: January 28, 2012, 06:58:58 AM »
Lest we all forget the Snyder Way

Have we all forgotten the Snyder Way and how he built K-State from the worst college football program in the country to the "Greatest Turnaround in College Football History"?

Go back to the beginning and early years of the Snyder v.1 and look how he handled coaching promotions.

Bob Stoops was a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent secondary coach.

Jim Leavitt was a linebackers coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.

Bxrent Venables was a grad assistant coach. He eventually moved up to linebackers coach (an internal hire) after proving himself as a grad aXssistant. He then moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.

Mike Stoops was also a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself as a top-notch defensive backs coach.

Dana Dimel started off as an offensive GA under Coach Snyder back in 1989. He eventually moved up to tight ends coach, running backs coach, offensive line coach, run game coordinator, and finally co-offensive coordinator (all internal hires).

You see the precedent?

Just like he molds and builds young men into the best players they can be - get a little better every day - during their years playing in the program, LHCBS likes to surround himself with quality position coaches, grad assistants and personnel that he can also mold and build into future position coaches and coordinators.

If LHCBS believes that Blake Seiler would make a great defensive ends coach, and full time assistant on the staff, he should know after three years of tutoring and teaching him the Wildcat Way.

It's no different than Venables, Dimel, Joe Bob or a host of other successful coaches who paid their dues and worked their way up the ranks under Coach Snyder through the years.

And if after working with Tom Hayes for a season coaching the defensive secondary, he believes Hayes can effectively move up to co-defensive coordinator, I will not object.

LHCBS v.2 surrounded himself again with young, aspiring, quality coaches that he can teach and mold daily to fill in possible future openings on the staff. Jonathon Beasley, David Allen, Blake Seiler, Joe Gordon . . . and more have been groomed for three years now for these opportunities.

I know this, if LHCBS believes the best candidate(s) for staff openings are presently in house, he has a brilliant resume of successes promoting from within.

Go Cats!



The difference being Hayes is old and drinks ensure. The other coaches you bring up were a lot younger and could still eat a steak without it being soften up for them.
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« Reply #991 on: January 28, 2012, 07:07:19 AM »
I'll say it again, Stormnut.  It's the Wildcat Way.

Just like he molds and builds young men into the best players they can be - get a little better every day - during their years playing in the program, LHCBS likes to surround himself with quality position coaches, grad assistants and personnel that he can also mold and build into future position coaches and coordinators.

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« Reply #992 on: January 28, 2012, 09:54:55 AM »
Well, this was fun. 

You got us again old man, you got us again.   :flush:

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« Reply #993 on: January 28, 2012, 11:54:26 AM »
This is fantastic.


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« Reply #994 on: January 28, 2012, 11:57:12 AM »
Has any fanbase hated their coach this much after a 10 win season? I hope not. This much hate deserves to make history.

Nerbaska and Solich?  Or, did he only win 9?  Course, they fired him.
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« Reply #995 on: January 28, 2012, 12:05:45 PM »
Lest we all forget the Snyder Way

Have we all forgotten the Snyder Way and how he built K-State from the worst college football program in the country to the "Greatest Turnaround in College Football History"?

Go back to the beginning and early years of the Snyder v.1 and look how he handled coaching promotions.

Bob Stoops was a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent secondary coach.

Jim Leavitt was a linebackers coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.

Bxrent Venables was a grad assistant coach. He eventually moved up to linebackers coach (an internal hire) after proving himself as a grad aXssistant. He then moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself to be an excellent linebackers coach.

Mike Stoops was also a secondary coach. He eventually moved up to co-defensive coordinator (an internal hire) after proving himself as a top-notch defensive backs coach.

Dana Dimel started off as an offensive GA under Coach Snyder back in 1989. He eventually moved up to tight ends coach, running backs coach, offensive line coach, run game coordinator, and finally co-offensive coordinator (all internal hires).

You see the precedent?

Just like he molds and builds young men into the best players they can be - get a little better every day - during their years playing in the program, LHCBS likes to surround himself with quality position coaches, grad assistants and personnel that he can also mold and build into future position coaches and coordinators.

If LHCBS believes that Blake Seiler would make a great defensive ends coach, and full time assistant on the staff, he should know after three years of tutoring and teaching him the Wildcat Way.

It's no different than Venables, Dimel, Joe Bob or a host of other successful coaches who paid their dues and worked their way up the ranks under Coach Snyder through the years.

And if after working with Tom Hayes for a season coaching the defensive secondary, he believes Hayes can effectively move up to co-defensive coordinator, I will not object.

LHCBS v.2 surrounded himself again with young, aspiring, quality coaches that he can teach and mold daily to fill in possible future openings on the staff. Jonathon Beasley, David Allen, Blake Seiler, Joe Gordon . . . and more have been groomed for three years now for these opportunities.

I know this, if LHCBS believes the best candidate(s) for staff openings are presently in house, he has a brilliant resume of successes promoting from within.

Go Cats!



The difference being Hayes is old and drinks ensure. The other coaches you bring up were a lot younger and could still eat a steak without it being soften up for them.

lest you forget the Snyder way you rough ridin' piece of trash.

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« Reply #996 on: January 28, 2012, 12:06:47 PM »
Has any fanbase hated their coach this much after a 10 win season? I hope not. This much hate deserves to make history.

Has any coach who lost a bad assistant after a 10 win season failed to capitalize on it as miserably as Snyder did? Well, probably. But still.

I would also guess Les Miles is hated more by his fanbase than Snyder.

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« Reply #997 on: January 28, 2012, 12:36:24 PM »
Has any fanbase hated their coach this much after a 10 win season? I hope not. This much hate deserves to make history.
We shouldn't hate him.  We should be incredibly thankful.


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« Reply #998 on: January 28, 2012, 02:07:50 PM »
I don't hate him.  I'm assuming even promoting from within is better than Cosh

Snyder does, however, consistently find a way to annoy the hell out of me with these things

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« Reply #999 on: January 28, 2012, 02:10:12 PM »
I don't hate him.  I'm assuming even promoting from within is better than Cosh

Snyder does, however, consistently find a way to annoy the hell out of me with these things

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