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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Trump owns Russia
« on: Today at 02:05:13 PM »
Rolling Stone’s Matt Taibbi has produced the first (and definitely not the last) post-Mueller autopsy of how journalists disgraced themselves with Russiagate speculation. It’s a long read but worth it. Especially for anyone who genuinely believes that the media on the whole didn’t do anything wrong.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Trump owns Russia
« on: Today at 11:05:05 AM »
First link is 404'd

Second is clearly brennon's opinion

First link works fine for me. And re Brennan, I'm just giving you one small example of the speculation about the Russia investigation that turned out to be utter bullshit. This man isn't some crank off the street, he's a crank who used to be CIA Director. Put on the air to spout nonsense for which he had no factual basis whatsoever. Speculation. Like so much of the Russiagate reporting. Even CNN Stetler is admitting there was loads of speculation - but he's cool with it "because it opens our eyes to what's possible."

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Trump owns Russia
« on: Today at 10:58:47 AM »
You really need examples? Ok.... here's one massive speculative article tying together all manner of speculative reports. https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-is-telling-us-hes-got-trump-on-COLUSION

Here's another. Obama CIA Director John Brennan predicts additional indictments just two weeks ago. https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/23/john-brennan-predicted-trump-indictments-mueller/

You want more? Put together a Gems from Chum's Russiagate Fantasy Thread.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Trump owns Russia
« on: Today at 10:37:48 AM »
Here’s an interesting take from some guy named Brian Stelter on CNN, who seems to think that most of the media’s reporting on Russiagate was down the middle.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/03/24/cnns_brian_stelter_on_mueller_coverage_speculation_has_value_too.html

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If I had to pick speculation or solid reporting, I would pick solid reporting in a second. I bet you would too. Reporting is what adds the most value. Finding out something new, putting out new information into the world is the best feeling in journalism. It is the greatest value add. Hundreds of journalists have been trying to solve pieces of this Trump-Russia puzzle.

But here's the thing -- Speculation actually has value too. It helps open our eyes and our minds to what's possible.

But.... no, right? Nobody here actually thinks that’s a good take, right? Simply publishing speculation at face value is not a good thing for the media or this country. But that’s what the Russiagate reporting was, time and time again.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Trump owns Russia
« on: Today at 10:18:11 AM »
People calling to see the report are mostly interested to see the details surrounding potential obstruction of justice by Trump and his cabinet.

Apparently the AG basically said he thought there was no obstruction because there was no underlying crime and because a lot of the questionable acts occurred in public, but neither of those actually undermine an obstruction charge so it’s odd the AG (who definitely should know the law) would give them as reasons.

The lack of an underlying crime is actually a pretty good, common sense reason from a policy standpoint to not pursue obstruction charges, in my opinion. Otherwise you encourage fomenting absurd investigations against political enemies in order to snare them on other charges (which, not coincidentally, is exactly what this was from the start).

I hope as much of the report as possible is eventually made public. There are very good reasons - e.g. for the protection of innocent folks’ privacy - why the special counsel laws won’t ever allow 100% disclosure. I expect what is ultimately published will contain details that are embarrassing for Trump - not all that surprising for any admin, but especially his - but no evidence of crimes. Hence the conclusion.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Trump owns Russia
« on: Today at 10:03:47 AM »
Would be neat if we could distill this thread down from 300-some pages to just the 50-some pages of Chum’s breathless journo-tweets. Would genuinely be a fun read.

 I think Matt Taibbi got pretty close to the mark describing Russiagate as the Dem’s/MSM’s/#ButIRepeatMyself’s “WMD moment.” Except that this may be too charitable in that I don’t believe very many of the Dems/MSM/#ButIRepeatMyself every really believed in Russiagate. This was always about (1) gaslighting Trump, (2) excusing Hillary’s loss, and (3) spawning some other investigation or obstruction to take Trump down.

While we’re waiting for some enterprising GE’r to put the gems together, here’s a funny cable news montage for your enjoyment.


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Kansas State Basketball / Re: 2019 Tour-nah-ment
« on: Today at 09:40:26 AM »
Talk about an impressive debut for NET. Of the 1-4 seeds, 14 of them advanced to the S16. Only Kansas and (a Wade-less) Kansas State failed.

This amount of chalk is almost unprecedented. Looks like the same exact result happened once before in 2009, where the S16 regions were 1 2 3 4, 1 2 3 4, 1 2 3 5, and 1 2 3 12.

I picked a ton of chalk this year - got 13 of the S16. Missed only on Marquette (Fl State), Wisconsin (Oregon), and Cincinnati (Tennessee).

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: B12 Tournament Thead
« on: March 14, 2019, 09:53:51 PM »
Iowa State fans are older and more farmey than K-State fans, and that’s saying something. Also, they really God’s honest truth effing love this tournament. Cat fans outnumbered the Clones 2-1 this morning session, but the Cat fans seem to just be going to the game whereas the Clones are bent on experiencing every drop of this thing. Taking selfies, mobbing the concession stands, playing all the carnival games outside to win promotional trinkets. The Kansas City B12T is basically Disney World for Clone fans - at a price they can afford. They also bring the Zeal. They were significantly louder than our golf-clapping fan base during the morning session.

I didn’t stick around for third session - big mistake. Huggs!

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« on: March 12, 2019, 02:34:19 PM »
Is there a Number 1 RPI streak? I just checked and KU is still tanked number 1 in the RPI. That is some truly amazing scheduling skillz.

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For the Thursday games, I’ll be going back and forth between the private watch party at CBE and a suite at Sprint Center. The CBE will give me a nice break from the stuffy confines of the suite in between games and I can practice jacking up 3s.

Strategy wise, is notching a third win over Baylor better than a second win over corn dumpster fire? Trying to decide who to root for in the morning game.

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« on: March 08, 2019, 12:50:17 PM »
Welp never mind. Latest bracketology says we're a 4, so I guess Joe isn't looking purely at NET, either. That's right where I'd put us at this point.

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« on: March 08, 2019, 11:05:10 AM »
If I had to choose between a 5 or 6, I’d most likely take the 6. If I had to choose between a 4 or 6, I still might take the 6 based upon matchups. Let’s just win the B12T and get a 3.

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« on: March 08, 2019, 08:58:52 AM »
I don't think our fans really understand how bad our offense was in the OOC against a pretty meh schedule. We did one really good thing with our scheduling by only including 3 >200 teams. However, we only ended up with 1 <50 team. Then we proceeded to play a bunch of those teams close, got one ok-ish win over Mizzou, got drilled by the only good team we played, and lost to a pair of mediocre (at best) teams. It was a really great schedule for an RPI metric, but no so much for any metric that includes efficiency. I think this team more than made up for it in the league, but the major reason any efficiency metric is in the mid to high 20s is because of our dreadful OOC offense.

So that's the only point I'm making. K-State is not a Top 10 Team. We don't deserve a 1 or 2 seed under any circumstance, or even 3 seed just based upon finishing 14-4 in conference. But anybody looking at this team in conference play the last few months would slate us in the Top 20, yet we're currently ranked 26 in the NET, below dumpster fire Iowa State, based upon games played in December. That's idiotic.

There is a big difference between seeds 3, 4, and 5 in the NCAAs. The 3 has a massive advantage. I'd almost prefer the 6 over the 4/5 line. Winning the Big 12 and a couple of games in the B12T should by all rights get us a 3, but I'm not so sure it will based on NET.

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« on: March 07, 2019, 04:05:23 PM »
we're kind of the basketball equivalent of an otherwise mediocre baseball team that for whatever reason is really good at hitting with runners in scoring position.

So our stats don't look good except for the only stat that matters.

I'm a big proponent of predictive computer models. We use them in lending to great effect. Statistically they perform better than manual underwriting. So maybe a few years of the tournament will support the NET (although the advantages from higher seeding will make this tricky to evaluate).

But if there is a significant disparity between NET and conference record/standings, the committee ought to lean more heavily toward the record. Otherwise the regular season becomes purely a numbers game that devalues results. This is why the NCAA ditched the RPI, which currently ranks shitty ol' KU #1 because of their scheduling schemes. That's asinine. At this point Iowa State and Texas don't deserve a seed commensurate with K-State, and vice versa.

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« on: March 07, 2019, 03:29:56 PM »
Serious question: I don’t “get” stuff like Ken Pom, RPI, etc. Iowa State is a complete dumpster fire but even after last night’s loss is sitting at 18 per KP. We’re at 25. Texas, which barely has a winning record and is in the bottom half of the conference, sits at 26. What does that mean? Is KP measuring something different that is maybe meaningful in a different way?

you're focusing too much on W-L records. it's more a predictive ranking based on offensive & defensive efficiencies. basically ISU should have a better record than they do (they rank 304 out of 353 in "luck"), and we should have a worse record than we do (#28 luckiest team).

you can look through ISU's schedule and see a ton of blowout victories and close losses

you can look through our schedule and see hardly any blowout victories, and double digit losses to marquette, texas, a&m, iowa st, and kansas

I appreciate this explanation. It makes sense - to a point. But over the course of an entire season you have to ask whether “luck” is really the factor, right? After playing about 30 games, including an 18 game conference schedule where everyone plays each other twice, I don’t think anyone can seriously contend that K-State, Texas, and Iowa State are comparable teams - we just lucky. Can they?

The Cats could still flub this weekend or the B12T and if that’s the case then I guess the models bear out, but assuming the Cats beat OU and at least make it to the semis - it’s gonna feel awfully shafty to be seeded comparably to ISU and Texas based on a predictive model like NET.

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« on: March 07, 2019, 03:06:08 PM »
Serious question: I don’t “get” stuff like Ken Pom, RPI, etc. Iowa State is a complete dumpster fire but even after last night’s loss is sitting at 18 per KP. We’re at 25. Texas, which barely has a winning record and is in the bottom half of the conference, sits at 26. What does that mean? Is KP measuring something different that is maybe meaningful in a different way?

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: tiebreakers for the phillips 66?
« on: March 07, 2019, 10:50:19 AM »
I think you meant Baylor went 2-0 against Iowa State to break that tie.

Good catch. Fixed that above.

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: tiebreakers for the phillips 66?
« on: March 07, 2019, 09:02:38 AM »
Short answer: Under any circumstance, if we finish tied with Tech - either we both lose or both win this weekend - we win the tiebreak due to our comparative records against Baylor.

Long answer for nerds.... Here is the rule. The first tie break is head to head, which leaves us tied. The next tiebreak is:

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Each team’s record versus the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings, and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.

Ok, so who's the next team below Cats and Tech? That depends upon the KU v Baylor game this weekend. If KU (likely) wins, they're the next highest team and Tech and Cats are both 1-1 against them, so we move on to the next team. IF KU loses to Baylor, then those teams are tied so we have to go to the next piece of the tiebreak rule.

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When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams [KU and Baylor] as a group (prior to that group’s own tiebreaking procedures), rather than the performance against individual tied teams. The lone exception to this guideline would be if there are only two tied teams in the group placement and one of the teams won both regular-season games.  In this instance, the tie is deemed broken and comparison of the seed rather than the placement will be utilized.

Ok, so KU and Baylor went 1-1 against each other, so we don't break that tie between them. Instead we compare the Cats and Tech's records against KU and Baylor collectively. Cats went 3-1 against those two teams. Tech went 2-2. So if Baylor beats KU this weekend, Cats win the tie break.

Alright, now let's circle back to the more likely scenario - KU beating Baylor. If that happens, the team directly below Cats and Tech is KU, and both our records against KU are 1-1. So we move on to the next team. The next highest team... again depends upon this weekend! If Tech beats ISU this weekend, the next highest team is Baylor. And we already know the Cats win that tiebreak.

But if ISU beats Tech (and we're assuming the Cats lose to OU - otherwise, none of this tiebreak stuff matters), then Baylor and ISU finish tied at 10-8. So now we've gotta go back to that tiebreak rule. More specifically, the last sentence of the tiebreak rule above, which says that since Baylor went 2-0 against ISU, we go ahead and break that tie first to determine the next highest team, rather than comparing the Cats and Tech's cumulative records against ISU and Baylor. So we're back to Baylor, and Cats win that tiebreak. 

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: I'm sick of this pathetic bias
« on: March 06, 2019, 09:36:27 AM »
Not GE'ing here - anybody actually believe this team deserves a 1 or 2 seed after our crap non-con? That's not gonna happen. Tyler's seed stat is irrelevant because conference record only tells half the story.

If we take care of business against OU and win a game next Thursday, we'll be on the 4 line. We could potentially play our way to the 3 line if we win the B12T and a few other teams flub their conference tourneys. Seems about right to me.

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« on: March 05, 2019, 10:10:34 PM »
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Sounds like Popovich is about to hang it up with the Spurs. Kinda hoping Self gets offered the Spurs job by his old buddy RC Buford and takes it. The magical ride at KU is over. NCAA sanctions are sure to follow this abortion of a season. It’s goimg to get ugly. Probably time to reset.

 :Wha:

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Wtf was that end of the half play? You see better plays than that in special olympics games...

This is a different guy than the cerebral palsy guy.

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I'm hugely disappointed with this team's performance, but I'm also realistic enough to know the law of averages catches up to everyone. Everyone.

Everybody. eff. Everyone.

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First year since 1992 that I won’t have KU winning it all in my brackets. Sad

I hope this guy’s not in my office pool.

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I'll say it, go Tech on Saturday, don't want the hayseeds (who despite tonight I'm still convinced we're better than) winning the league by themselves

:cry:

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« on: March 05, 2019, 09:49:14 PM »
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Our team may have cerebral palsy this year.

 :sdeek:

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Lol this is worse than TCU last night

They didn’t play..... oh right. In their heads.

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To be fair, if we have SDS as was planned, this team is very different. Losing SDS was a much bigger blow than losing doke.

Yes. If the $$$ pipeline has come through as it usually does.

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We were due for a rough year. Everyone pull themselves up by there boots straps and buy football season tickets.

Bluewings Rising.

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CLANK

(This guy posts “Clank” every time they miss a shot. Lotta posts.)

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Kansas State Basketball / Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« on: March 05, 2019, 09:40:48 PM »
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The charge call is BROKEN in CBB. BROKEN.

Outside of Allen....

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I'm away from the house for a bit. How are the boys looking tonight?

I have easier access to a BBS than a score app. Thanks, and I’ll listen off the air.

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Well, this game is over. This team has 2nd-round loss written all over it. At least most everyone will be back and better next season.

Second round? I like the optimism.

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Oh Fran eff right off.
Go sit in the stands where you belong.


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Kansas State Basketball / Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« on: March 05, 2019, 09:32:05 PM »
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So, just the two of us I guess. Everyone else must be watching Wake.

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As per usual, our Big XII opponent starts the game by shooting out of their minds.
9th out of tenth in three point shooting in the Big XII, except when they play us, of course.

:lol: These never get old.

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Hitting every three they put up. No doubt vs KSU they will shoot in %20 range

 :lol: :lol: We occupy so much real estate in their heads.

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Beyond sick of this super bowl bullshit.

Or it’s senior night. Or you suck balls and taint on the road. Let’s go with super bowl.

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Well there’s a quick double digit deficit. Guess I’ll head to bed, 4 am comes early.

I’m guessing.... turnpike tollbooth operator.

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eff the teams in this league. Not one of them gives the effort against all the others they do against KU.

So you get the point but this super bowl stuff goes on for pages and pages.

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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: book recommendations
« on: March 01, 2019, 01:48:49 PM »
I'm about a quarter of the way into The Age of Miracles by Karen Thompson Walker. Great book. A pre-apocalypse told through the eyes of a 6th grade girl. The disaster (disclosed at the very beginning) is that the earth's rotation starts to slow down. Days and nights become longer and that's just the start. Fascinating stuff. I think this has already been optioned as a movie or TV miniseries.

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