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Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 21, 2020, 04:34:59 PMQuote from: star seed 7 on April 21, 2020, 04:32:34 PMKdub, answer this honestly (other resident trump voters feel free to answer as well). Would you work for a person exactly like trump? Would you hire a person exactly like trump?Would I work the president? Absolutely. Would I work for him in my current capacity? No. Would I hire him? No. He doesn't fit my line of work. I'm an attorney.You're absolutely no fun when you're backed into a corner to defend this clown. We both know you would stay as far away from him in business as you could.
Quote from: star seed 7 on April 21, 2020, 04:32:34 PMKdub, answer this honestly (other resident trump voters feel free to answer as well). Would you work for a person exactly like trump? Would you hire a person exactly like trump?Would I work the president? Absolutely. Would I work for him in my current capacity? No. Would I hire him? No. He doesn't fit my line of work. I'm an attorney.
Kdub, answer this honestly (other resident trump voters feel free to answer as well). Would you work for a person exactly like trump? Would you hire a person exactly like trump?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning. They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.
Quote from: Chingon on April 21, 2020, 04:26:48 PMGet in on this if you canhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/missouri-sues-china-coronavirus-pandemic-70268638Missouri gonna MissouriSMDHThey toook our jaabs!!
Quote from: star seed 7 on April 21, 2020, 04:40:38 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 21, 2020, 04:34:59 PMQuote from: star seed 7 on April 21, 2020, 04:32:34 PMKdub, answer this honestly (other resident trump voters feel free to answer as well). Would you work for a person exactly like trump? Would you hire a person exactly like trump?Would I work the president? Absolutely. Would I work for him in my current capacity? No. Would I hire him? No. He doesn't fit my line of work. I'm an attorney.You're absolutely no fun when you're backed into a corner to defend this clown. We both know you would stay as far away from him in business as you could.You may have misunderstood my answer because I think I conceded what you were looking for. I wouldn’t want to work for Trump, or have him work for me, because the legal profession is (or should be) premised firmly in fact and law. Trump would be a terrible lawyer (and I’ve seen plenty of terrible lawyers). But Trump isn’t a lawyer. He’s a businessman turned politician. So I’m not sure what point you were trying to make, but I think I conceded what you want. I am not a blind Trump defender (there’s a thread somewhere where I’ve detailed my criticisms). I defend him against stupid attacks, of which there are many.
Quote from: michigancat on April 21, 2020, 04:28:04 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 21, 2020, 04:20:56 PMQuote from: michigancat on April 21, 2020, 04:06:12 PMI watched that eyepatch guy, was pretty hilarous that his closing was that trump's just an optimistic guy and a calm leader when he says "I've gotta hunch that this will be gone by april". oh and did he mention he mentioned that in the book?Well, since most won't watch the video I'll post the transcript of the part you are referencing - just to show what an ass you are being.QuoteMaher: I don't understand how someone with your resume - you were in Fallujah for God's sakes - would you want someone a a commander to say that to you, to blame everybody else if something goes wrong and then just say "you know I have a hunch the enemy's not going to be in there but let's attack."Crenshaw: Sure, no, I understand that, so here's how I would describe my answer to that: when bullets are flying past my head, I don't need to raise my voice. I write about this in my book, too, calm breeds calm, panic breeds panic. Um, you know, being an optimistic... excusing positivity and calmness in crisis is exactly how we ask our SEALs to lead.As a decorate war hero yourself, Rusty, do you disagree? I disagree that Trump has ever been an example of a leader who is positive and calm. I'm not sure if Trump has been optimistic, but I'd prefer a leader who is realistic or even cautious rather than irrationally optimistic during a pandemic, or a warOk - so Rusty disagrees with the SEALs about what the importance of confidence and optimism to leadership. Noted. I guess you would say the same for FDR. Sure wish we had been second-guessing every action back then, too. Would have worked out swell and our country sure would be the better for it.As Crenshaw notes in another portion of the interview most of you won't watch, this current whining is consistent with the liberal theme of losing their crap over things Trump says - often to pump up confidence - as opposed to his actual actions.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 21, 2020, 04:20:56 PMQuote from: michigancat on April 21, 2020, 04:06:12 PMI watched that eyepatch guy, was pretty hilarous that his closing was that trump's just an optimistic guy and a calm leader when he says "I've gotta hunch that this will be gone by april". oh and did he mention he mentioned that in the book?Well, since most won't watch the video I'll post the transcript of the part you are referencing - just to show what an ass you are being.QuoteMaher: I don't understand how someone with your resume - you were in Fallujah for God's sakes - would you want someone a a commander to say that to you, to blame everybody else if something goes wrong and then just say "you know I have a hunch the enemy's not going to be in there but let's attack."Crenshaw: Sure, no, I understand that, so here's how I would describe my answer to that: when bullets are flying past my head, I don't need to raise my voice. I write about this in my book, too, calm breeds calm, panic breeds panic. Um, you know, being an optimistic... excusing positivity and calmness in crisis is exactly how we ask our SEALs to lead.As a decorate war hero yourself, Rusty, do you disagree? I disagree that Trump has ever been an example of a leader who is positive and calm. I'm not sure if Trump has been optimistic, but I'd prefer a leader who is realistic or even cautious rather than irrationally optimistic during a pandemic, or a war
Quote from: michigancat on April 21, 2020, 04:06:12 PMI watched that eyepatch guy, was pretty hilarous that his closing was that trump's just an optimistic guy and a calm leader when he says "I've gotta hunch that this will be gone by april". oh and did he mention he mentioned that in the book?Well, since most won't watch the video I'll post the transcript of the part you are referencing - just to show what an ass you are being.QuoteMaher: I don't understand how someone with your resume - you were in Fallujah for God's sakes - would you want someone a a commander to say that to you, to blame everybody else if something goes wrong and then just say "you know I have a hunch the enemy's not going to be in there but let's attack."Crenshaw: Sure, no, I understand that, so here's how I would describe my answer to that: when bullets are flying past my head, I don't need to raise my voice. I write about this in my book, too, calm breeds calm, panic breeds panic. Um, you know, being an optimistic... excusing positivity and calmness in crisis is exactly how we ask our SEALs to lead.As a decorate war hero yourself, Rusty, do you disagree?
I watched that eyepatch guy, was pretty hilarous that his closing was that trump's just an optimistic guy and a calm leader when he says "I've gotta hunch that this will be gone by april". oh and did he mention he mentioned that in the book?
Maher: I don't understand how someone with your resume - you were in Fallujah for God's sakes - would you want someone a a commander to say that to you, to blame everybody else if something goes wrong and then just say "you know I have a hunch the enemy's not going to be in there but let's attack."Crenshaw: Sure, no, I understand that, so here's how I would describe my answer to that: when bullets are flying past my head, I don't need to raise my voice. I write about this in my book, too, calm breeds calm, panic breeds panic. Um, you know, being an optimistic... excusing positivity and calmness in crisis is exactly how we ask our SEALs to lead.
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2020, 04:58:19 PMQuote from: Chingon on April 21, 2020, 04:26:48 PMGet in on this if you canhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/missouri-sues-china-coronavirus-pandemic-70268638Missouri gonna MissouriSMDHThey toook our jaabs!!Do you agree or disagree with the lawsuit (disregarding whether it will be successful or not) - and why?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/colorado-governor-will-let-stay-at-home-order-expire-on-monday-as-some-businesses-begin-to-reopenColorado will start rolling back its statewide stay-at-home order on April 27. Kansas's order is in effect until at least May 3.As of today,* Colorado has 449 deaths (78/MM) and 10,106 confirmed cases (1,755/MM). Kansas has 107 deaths (36.7/MM) and 2,025 (695/MM).Kelly was the first governor in the nation to shut down schools through the end of the school year. If she does not likewise extend the stay-at-home order through the same time period, this might call into question her earlier decision, perhaps justifiably so. I hope this is not an influencing factor.*assuming these numbers are accurate, and the probably aren't, but hopefully they are at least somewhat equally flawed.
Dub gives the president of the USA all the leash he wants and praises his "optimism" but if the governor of Kansas May dates to square with school being out sense by a week you better believe he will be here to hold her feet to the fire. It's all part of his fair and balanced approach. He even has a thread somewhere where he was kind of critical of trump.
Quote from: Phil Titola on April 21, 2020, 05:45:51 PMDub gives the president of the USA all the leash he wants and praises his "optimism" but if the governor of Kansas May dates to square with school being out sense by a week you better believe he will be here to hold her feet to the fire. It's all part of his fair and balanced approach. He even has a thread somewhere where he was kind of critical of trump.Phil: Weaving and bobbing his way through Federalism
Hey, do you guys think one book is enough? No? Hmm, ok let's throw the flag in the corner and stick another book on my right
When does school end? I honestly don't know, but I'm assuming second week of May?Schools are supposed to still be shut down during the next phase of opening anyway, so I'm not sure your gotcha is as strong as you think it is.
Quote from: star seed 7 on April 21, 2020, 05:40:58 PMWhen does school end? I honestly don't know, but I'm assuming second week of May?Schools are supposed to still be shut down during the next phase of opening anyway, so I'm not sure your gotcha is as strong as you think it is.I think I’m Wichita it went until the 23rd. And not a gotcha - I legit hope that isn’t influencing her decision re the stay-at-home order. It’s interesting to me that Colorado (Dem gov, worse numbers) is ahead of Kelly on this.
Quote from: Chingon on April 21, 2020, 05:00:06 PMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2020, 04:58:19 PMQuote from: Chingon on April 21, 2020, 04:26:48 PMGet in on this if you canhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/missouri-sues-china-coronavirus-pandemic-70268638Missouri gonna MissouriSMDHThey toook our jaabs!!Do you agree or disagree with the lawsuit (disregarding whether it will be successful or not) - and why?It's a fruitless endeavor, it needs no further explanation. I'd like to think the MAG has better things to do. This issue needs to be taken up on a national and international level.
Quote from: Phil Titola on April 21, 2020, 03:28:40 PMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2020, 03:25:23 PMQuote from: Libdork.9 rolled back from 1.0 on April 21, 2020, 03:22:10 PMSo he was taking it seriously while saying it's a hoax? That's a bit of a stretch even for Herr dax of the trump propaganda defense league.He was calling the Democratic response in him not taking it seriously a hoax. You obviously didn't read the article I posted, because it runs counter to what your leaders tell you to believe and to say, like a little parrot boy.Useful Idiot: Thy name is LibDork .9SMDH, sadI think we can all agree it was not a good run of words together for him, but that's no different than any of his rallies. His followers don't really care what he says anyways. He has way bigger sins in this COVID-19 vent than using the word hoax at a rally, we can all agree with that.We should all be able to agree that Trump, and all our elected leaders, have made mistakes.We should all be able to agree that Trump was "warned" of this virus just as he was likely warned of hundreds of threats that never came to pass.We should all be able to agree that Trump downplayed the severity of the virus, just like many democrats and the media but I repeat myself did the same exact thing.We should all be able to agree that our elected leaders were making decisions based upon questionable information from China, the WHO, and other agenices, questionable and incomplete data, and the speculative models resulting therefrom.We should all be able to agree that we ought to extend our elected leaders a little bit of grace in these situations, understanding that in light of such crappy information they had to plan for the worst. But we should also all be able to agree that our elected leaders have taken actions guided by political considerations.There's a lot of things we whould be able to agree upon. Instead it's non-stop political sniping. "Oooh but Trump does it, too." Trump's finger-pointing is mainly to point out the hypocrisy of his critics. And to deservedly point the finger at China and the WHO.Have any of you actually watched the Crenshaw vid I posted? You should watch it. He covers this pretty effectively.https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1251644816611573760
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2020, 03:25:23 PMQuote from: Libdork.9 rolled back from 1.0 on April 21, 2020, 03:22:10 PMSo he was taking it seriously while saying it's a hoax? That's a bit of a stretch even for Herr dax of the trump propaganda defense league.He was calling the Democratic response in him not taking it seriously a hoax. You obviously didn't read the article I posted, because it runs counter to what your leaders tell you to believe and to say, like a little parrot boy.Useful Idiot: Thy name is LibDork .9SMDH, sadI think we can all agree it was not a good run of words together for him, but that's no different than any of his rallies. His followers don't really care what he says anyways. He has way bigger sins in this COVID-19 vent than using the word hoax at a rally, we can all agree with that.
Quote from: Libdork.9 rolled back from 1.0 on April 21, 2020, 03:22:10 PMSo he was taking it seriously while saying it's a hoax? That's a bit of a stretch even for Herr dax of the trump propaganda defense league.He was calling the Democratic response in him not taking it seriously a hoax. You obviously didn't read the article I posted, because it runs counter to what your leaders tell you to believe and to say, like a little parrot boy.Useful Idiot: Thy name is LibDork .9SMDH, sad
So he was taking it seriously while saying it's a hoax? That's a bit of a stretch even for Herr dax of the trump propaganda defense league.
Latest update showing "safe to lift restrictions" and go to containment (if state is even ready to do that) for most states way into Junehttp://www.healthdata.org/covid/updatesSeems late.
This thread really blew up today. Any new breakthroughs or news, or just political dumbassery?