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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« on: April 11, 2020, 09:20:40 AM »
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 09:13:16 PM »Home Depot should absolutely be open. So should dry cleaners and laundromats. People need to maintain running water and have light bulbs and they also need clean clothes.
Sorry I overlooked this, but Rusty values clean clothes over saving lives. How dare you, Rusty?! Damn I got that glowy feeling of virtue all over....
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 08:55:10 PM »
Michigan Gov made quite a name for herself among liberals by challenging Trump on hydroxychloroquine, going so far as issuing a letter threatening doctor’s medical licenses for prescribing it and asking pharmacists to report doctors. This bravery launched her onto the short-list for Woman VP.
Now she’s... warming to the drug. www.foxnews.com/politics/michigan-reverses-course-on-trump-touted-coronavirus-drugs.amp
Now she’s... warming to the drug. www.foxnews.com/politics/michigan-reverses-course-on-trump-touted-coronavirus-drugs.amp
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 08:00:29 PM »
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/10/pbss_alcindor_vs_black_surgeon_general_people_are_offended_you_told_blacks_to_avoid_alcohol_and_drugs.html
I think this belongs here. Now our black surgeon general’s a racist. Well played, media. Well played.
I think this belongs here. Now our black surgeon general’s a racist. Well played, media. Well played.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 05:02:12 PM »To get this thread back on track
Not the US but a global hero
https://twitter.com/silkdynastystx/status/1248672595181891584
That’s amazing. Thank you for sharing.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 05:00:12 PM »This isn't some gotcha that you need to shy away from bud, I'm just asking what you think should be open but isn't? Are you able to actually specifically name one store?
Really? Good lord. Ok just at a shopping area nearby.... Pier 1, jeweler (a couple), Barnes & Noble, Hallmark, about a dozen boutique and not-so-boutique clothing stores, pottery barn, a couple specialty shops... the place is a ghost town.
Thanks, I was just trying to get your frame of mind. I don't think any of that needs to be open, except possibly clothing stores.
I don’t think any of that needs to be open, either. But the business owners and their customers might disagree. I believe that most ”non-essential” businesses should not be shut down. I think the shutdown is overly broad and economically harmful.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 04:35:09 PM »Kdub, I think it's weird that you keep bitching about what is open instead of just telling us what you want open (besides gathering spots like ski resorts obv)
I want everything to be open except for businesses that are both non-essential and are high risk of spread due to high-density and high-contact.
that's literally what is happening in every state. Move this whole thread to the common ground thread and quit trying to pin "the other side" on closing businesses. Nobody wants this.
This simply is not true. I challenge you to visit any corner retail development and count the stores that are currently closed.
You agreed non essential stores should be closed right now, so da duq you trying to say here? Yeah places are closed. We all agreed it sucks
You should read more closely. I didn’t say that.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 04:31:58 PM »This isn't some gotcha that you need to shy away from bud, I'm just asking what you think should be open but isn't? Are you able to actually specifically name one store?
Really? Good lord. Ok just at a shopping area nearby.... Pier 1, jeweler (a couple), Barnes & Noble, Hallmark, about a dozen boutique and not-so-boutique clothing stores, pottery barn, a couple specialty shops... the place is a ghost town.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 03:02:09 PM »Kdub, I think it's weird that you keep bitching about what is open instead of just telling us what you want open (besides gathering spots like ski resorts obv)
I want everything to be open except for businesses that are both non-essential and are high risk of spread due to high-density and high-contact.
that's literally what is happening in every state. Move this whole thread to the common ground thread and quit trying to pin "the other side" on closing businesses. Nobody wants this.
This simply is not true. I challenge you to visit any corner retail development and count the stores that are currently closed.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 03:00:03 PM »Kdub, I think it's weird that you keep bitching about what is open instead of just telling us what you want open (besides gathering spots like ski resorts obv)
As I’ve said above, a couple times now, I want everything to be open except for businesses that are both non-essential and are high risk of spread due to high-density and high-contact. I listed examples. Are you asking me to list the stuff I’d personally like to be open? Why? This isn’t about me, at least directly. It’s about the economy at large, which affects all of us.
Ok so personally, I’m missing the gym and the barber, but I understand why those are closed. I think those are the only closures that directly, personally affect me. How about you?
You don't miss the fellowship of attending Church services?
Sorry, I thought we were just talking businesses. There’s a lot of fellowship stuff I miss.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 02:52:11 PM »Kdub, I think it's weird that you keep bitching about what is open instead of just telling us what you want open (besides gathering spots like ski resorts obv)
As I’ve said above, a couple times now, I want everything to be open except for businesses that are both non-essential and are high risk of spread due to high-density and high-contact. I listed examples. Are you asking me to list the stuff I’d personally like to be open? Why? This isn’t about me, at least directly. It’s about the economy at large, which affects all of us.
Ok so personally, I’m missing the gym and the barber, but I understand why those are closed. I think those are the only closures that directly, personally affect me. How about you?
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 02:42:40 PM »There are a lot of Pit’rs whose raison d'etre seems to be taking comments wildly out of context and or distorting them to make a snarky comment.
The point I was making with liquor stores, and numerous other businesses, is that the distinction between “essential vs non-essential” business seems highly arbitrary and unlikely to meaningfully slow the spread when you consider how many “essential businesses” remain open. I think it would have been smarter to identify and restrict certain businesses that are both high-risk for spread (due to close personal contact, food, etc.) and non-essential. Gyms, movie theaters, and restaurant dine-in service, for example, made sense. But closing down thousands of small businesses (just in Kansas alone) when the grocery stores, hardware stores, gas stations, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. remain open is both arbitrary and illogical. And liquor stores aren’t even “essential” in my opinion. My goodness, I think Rusty just compared liquor stores to methadone clinics!
No, snarky dumbasses, I’m not mad that those businesses are open, I’m pointing out that closing down other business when so many high-density, high-contact businesses stay open is arbitrary, illogical, and likely ineffectual.
In Missouri at least even essential businesses are required to implement social distancing measures for customers and employees. Liquor stores are not high-density of the ones I've been in but I've seen others that are limiting the # of people in the store to keep people safe.
I'm interested what type of store you are so bent out of shape that's now closed and how would you have tried to limit social interactions to help control this. Should Home Depot be open?
Well, let’s start with roughly 75% of any stores in any retail center that are currently closed. There are too many to name. Yes, I think Home Depot should be open (it is). I think most businesses should be open subject to basic social distancing measures (more cleaning, cue spacing, etc.) except for certain businesses that are both high-density / high contact and non-essential (that would be things like I mentioned: gyms, dine-in service, etc.)
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 02:38:37 PM »
These shutdown decisions are being made with almost no reliable data. And I sympathize with that. To some extend, you have to plan for “the worst” of you don’t have a complete picture. But the worst also has to include plunging into another Great Depression.
I thought this was an interesting read.
Virtually All of the COVID-19 Numbers Are Bullshit
I thought this was an interesting read.
Virtually All of the COVID-19 Numbers Are Bullshit
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 02:33:31 PM »yes it is virtue signaling.
This is pretty rich. I think the folks screaming about how “if it saves one life” it’s worth trashing the economy (Gov. Cuomo et al) is the ultimate virtue signaling.
You people have abandoned all reason and perspective. It’s really something to behold. There is a sensible middle-way here, and you all are just running off the cliff.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 10, 2020, 02:27:44 PM »
There are a lot of Pit’rs whose raison d'etre seems to be taking comments wildly out of context and or distorting them to make a snarky comment.
The point I was making with liquor stores, and numerous other businesses, is that the distinction between “essential vs non-essential” business seems highly arbitrary and unlikely to meaningfully slow the spread when you consider how many “essential businesses” remain open. I think it would have been smarter to identify and restrict certain businesses that are both high-risk for spread (due to close personal contact, food, etc.) and non-essential. Gyms, movie theaters, and restaurant dine-in service, for example, made sense. But closing down thousands of small businesses (just in Kansas alone) when the grocery stores, hardware stores, gas stations, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. remain open is both arbitrary and illogical. And liquor stores aren’t even “essential” in my opinion. My goodness, I think Rusty just compared liquor stores to methadone clinics!
No, snarky dumbasses, I’m not mad that those businesses are open, I’m pointing out that closing down other business when so many high-density, high-contact businesses stay open is arbitrary, illogical, and likely ineffectual.
The point I was making with liquor stores, and numerous other businesses, is that the distinction between “essential vs non-essential” business seems highly arbitrary and unlikely to meaningfully slow the spread when you consider how many “essential businesses” remain open. I think it would have been smarter to identify and restrict certain businesses that are both high-risk for spread (due to close personal contact, food, etc.) and non-essential. Gyms, movie theaters, and restaurant dine-in service, for example, made sense. But closing down thousands of small businesses (just in Kansas alone) when the grocery stores, hardware stores, gas stations, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. remain open is both arbitrary and illogical. And liquor stores aren’t even “essential” in my opinion. My goodness, I think Rusty just compared liquor stores to methadone clinics!
No, snarky dumbasses, I’m not mad that those businesses are open, I’m pointing out that closing down other business when so many high-density, high-contact businesses stay open is arbitrary, illogical, and likely ineffectual.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Recent motion picture viewing - Add your own!
« on: April 10, 2020, 10:47:10 AM »
The Platform on Netflix was certainly one of the most creative movies I’ve seen in a long time. And a fascinating demonstration of economic games and theories such as the Tragedy of the Commons (also might have some elements of Prisoner’s Dilemma and Public Goods Game mixed in - haven’t quite untangled where this movie’s premise best fits). I also think the varying prison sentences maybe pollute the true efficacy of the movie's premise as an economic experiment.
It’s not perfect and has at least one gaping plot hole, but I still highly recommended.
It’s not perfect and has at least one gaping plot hole, but I still highly recommended.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 09, 2020, 07:28:06 AM »Why boozing up is essential while we’re destroying other businesses. I googled it and apparently we have to keep supplying booze addicts so they don’t go through withdrawal. Not kidding. Do I have that right? Seems more likely to me that they’ve just got better lobbyists.
Keeping alcoholics from withdrawal is honestly a good reason. It's a really nasty withdraw for a lot of folks, like you'd seriously end up with a tons of people going to the hospital if they don't drink a fifth of whiskey a day.
And obviously allowing booze makes sheltering in place a lot more pleasant for people who manage their alcohol use more responsibly.
Not sure who you think they have better lobbyists than?
I think this has been tried on a smaller scale in certain cities (liberal enclaves), but I think this might be the first time we’ve ever decided that it’s best to keep giving the addicts their fix. Should work out well for all victims of domestic and child abuse.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 08, 2020, 11:53:19 PM »
Why boozing up is essential while we’re destroying other businesses. I googled it and apparently we have to keep supplying booze addicts so they don’t go through withdrawal. Not kidding. Do I have that right? Seems more likely to me that they’ve just got better lobbyists.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« on: April 08, 2020, 11:50:14 PM »
The Space Force should nuke the virus from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 08, 2020, 11:33:42 PM »So, what's everyone drinking tonight?
Fortunately liquor stores are “essential.” Did anyone figure that one out?
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Recent motion picture viewing - Add your own!
« on: April 08, 2020, 11:30:53 PM »
Bird Box was good! Similar to A Quiet Place but better I think.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 08, 2020, 10:56:58 PM »Have none of you read my entrapment posts? I’m extremely skeptical of police power.I’m pretty sure most people are skeptical of articles you post. You know, since most recent ones have been taken down because they literally contain false propaganda. You continue to read and belief this false info stuff tho, so can you really be surprised people don’t take you seriously?
Chill friend. You don’t have to engage. It’s going to be ok. :hug:
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 08, 2020, 10:34:59 PM »
Have none of you read my entrapment posts? I’m extremely skeptical of police power.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
« on: April 08, 2020, 08:54:38 PM »It’s incredible rough ridin' idiots like KSUW who have been proven wrong over this SO many times continue posting. It’s like he’s oblivious to how rough ridin' wrong he has been. Instead of admitting he was wrong, he makes it a political issue. Just unreal levels of incompetence.
This is a great addition. Didn’t even read the article (in which officers apologized and admitted the man hadn’t broken the law). Just total RAGE.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Recent motion picture viewing - Add your own!
« on: April 08, 2020, 08:49:12 PM »
Richard Jewell. You know, this movie got a lotta grief from the media complaining about how biased this movie was against the media. I actually thought that Clint did a good job of making everybody look terrible: the media, the FBI, and Richard Jewell. Richard’s actions (at least as depicted by Eastwood. - I don’t know much of the underlying facts) make Jewell look suspicious as hell.