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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #275 on: January 17, 2016, 04:34:24 PM »
Love that ksuw's breaking point is that rubio isn't a piece of crap so he's unelectable
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #276 on: January 17, 2016, 04:40:53 PM »
Trump won't do a damn thing he says he will do.  He will keep nice Mexicans too.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #277 on: January 17, 2016, 04:53:56 PM »
"a garden city man wondered in april if the theologians had not made a mistake in locating the garden of eden in asia rather than in the arkansas river valley."

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #278 on: January 17, 2016, 09:35:50 PM »
Wait that's it? He's out for you now, bc he doesn't want to deport everybody?

I did not say he was out for me. Even though I prefer a harder stance on law enforcement, I would still support him. I'm saying he has torpedo'd his chance to get the nomination. Repeatedly. His misreading of the GOP electorate on immigration is nothing short of political malpractice. I think he's misreading the general electorate, too, to an extent, as it appears that many traditional Dems are also clammoring for strict border enforcement. This is the source of Trump's bipartisan appeal and his meteoric rise.

And by the way, the "deport everybody" line is quite possibly the biggest strawman in the immigration debate (and shame on Marco for using it).
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #279 on: January 17, 2016, 10:59:07 PM »
Do you guys get the political ads in Kansas? Rubio is running an ad where he tells three flat out lies, not loose interpretations of the truth, but just flat out lies. Rubio also has a super PAC that is infatuated with Jeb, dude is polling at like 4% but Marco's super PAC has a weird obsession with him.

Which lies is Marco telling the good people of Iowa?

He made six claims in a 30 second ad

1. Prisoners released from Gitmo (I'm assuming he means the ones released in the Bergdahl deal) are plotting to attack us. He didn't say anything like I think or, could be, he said "they are planning to attack us" without equivocation.
2. "Instead of fighting to fund our troops he's fighting to fund Planned Parenthood."
3. "His plan after the attack in San Bernardino, take away our guns."

One truth:
1. "He cut a deal with Iran." Which is mostly true, it was a coalition deal but whatever

Then there was this:
"He spies on Israel." This one isn't a lie but it's using a small part of the truth with the intent to mislead. Yes, our country spies on Israel, and our country will continue to do so no matter who the president is. They also spy on us.

Finally this:
"He says climate change is our greatest threat." I can't find this direct quote, I can only find right leaning blogs that claim that Obama said it but nothing directly attributing the quote to him. I won't put it in the out and out lie section but it smells funny.

So six claims; three lies, two questionable, one close to the unequivocal truth.

Here's the ad

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #280 on: January 17, 2016, 11:12:16 PM »
I saw this ad during the Seahawks v. Panthers game today, it is the most adorable presidential ad OAT


It's kind of funny though because a Ted Cruz super PAC has been running this ad for a few weeks which is hilarious.


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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #281 on: January 18, 2016, 08:27:42 AM »
Do you guys get the political ads in Kansas? Rubio is running an ad where he tells three flat out lies, not loose interpretations of the truth, but just flat out lies. Rubio also has a super PAC that is infatuated with Jeb, dude is polling at like 4% but Marco's super PAC has a weird obsession with him.

Which lies is Marco telling the good people of Iowa?

He made six claims in a 30 second ad

1. Prisoners released from Gitmo (I'm assuming he means the ones released in the Bergdahl deal) are plotting to attack us. He didn't say anything like I think or, could be, he said "they are planning to attack us" without equivocation.
2. "Instead of fighting to fund our troops he's fighting to fund Planned Parenthood."
3. "His plan after the attack in San Bernardino, take away our guns."

One truth:
1. "He cut a deal with Iran." Which is mostly true, it was a coalition deal but whatever

Then there was this:
"He spies on Israel." This one isn't a lie but it's using a small part of the truth with the intent to mislead. Yes, our country spies on Israel, and our country will continue to do so no matter who the president is. They also spy on us.

Finally this:
"He says climate change is our greatest threat." I can't find this direct quote, I can only find right leaning blogs that claim that Obama said it but nothing directly attributing the quote to him. I won't put it in the out and out lie section but it smells funny.

So six claims; three lies, two questionable, one close to the unequivocal truth.

Here's the ad

What an odd thing to be butthurt about. While certainly exaggerations, seems like there's at least a grain of truth to every one of those claims, which makes it more truthful than many political ads.

1. Gitmo detainees plotting to attack the US is untrue? What evidence do you have of that? There is plenty of evidence that many former Gitmo detainees have returned to the battlefield. You really think all of them wouldn't attack US interests if given the opportunity? Weird claim to take issue with.

2. Fighting harder for PP funding than troop funding. Again, this is at least partially true. He threatened to veto any spending bill that refunded PP. He also did veto a troop funding bill because it, among other things, thwarted his ability to further release Gitmo detainees. http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2000632/

3. Wanting to take away our guns. Probably the biggest exaggeration, but still somewhat truthful. You cNt really argue that this isn't what he really desires. Why, then, does he keep citing Australia as a successful gun control model - where they confiscated guns?

4. Cut a deal with Iran. True. And a shitty deal at that.

5. Spies on Israel. True.

6. He said climate change our biggest threat. True. http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/climate-change-us-obama/

But mainly, not sure why you're getting so butthurt over an ad by a candidate who won't get the nomination.
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #282 on: January 18, 2016, 08:52:12 AM »
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #283 on: January 18, 2016, 11:00:28 AM »
Do you guys get the political ads in Kansas? Rubio is running an ad where he tells three flat out lies, not loose interpretations of the truth, but just flat out lies. Rubio also has a super PAC that is infatuated with Jeb, dude is polling at like 4% but Marco's super PAC has a weird obsession with him.

Which lies is Marco telling the good people of Iowa?

He made six claims in a 30 second ad

1. Prisoners released from Gitmo (I'm assuming he means the ones released in the Bergdahl deal) are plotting to attack us. He didn't say anything like I think or, could be, he said "they are planning to attack us" without equivocation.
2. "Instead of fighting to fund our troops he's fighting to fund Planned Parenthood."
3. "His plan after the attack in San Bernardino, take away our guns."

One truth:
1. "He cut a deal with Iran." Which is mostly true, it was a coalition deal but whatever

Then there was this:
"He spies on Israel." This one isn't a lie but it's using a small part of the truth with the intent to mislead. Yes, our country spies on Israel, and our country will continue to do so no matter who the president is. They also spy on us.

Finally this:
"He says climate change is our greatest threat." I can't find this direct quote, I can only find right leaning blogs that claim that Obama said it but nothing directly attributing the quote to him. I won't put it in the out and out lie section but it smells funny.

So six claims; three lies, two questionable, one close to the unequivocal truth.

Here's the ad

What an odd thing to be butthurt about. While certainly exaggerations, seems like there's at least a grain of truth to every one of those claims, which makes it more truthful than many political ads.

1. Gitmo detainees plotting to attack the US is untrue? What evidence do you have of that? There is plenty of evidence that many former Gitmo detainees have returned to the battlefield. You really think all of them wouldn't attack US interests if given the opportunity? Weird claim to take issue with.

2. Fighting harder for PP funding than troop funding. Again, this is at least partially true. He threatened to veto any spending bill that refunded PP. He also did veto a troop funding bill because it, among other things, thwarted his ability to further release Gitmo detainees. http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2000632/

3. Wanting to take away our guns. Probably the biggest exaggeration, but still somewhat truthful. You cNt really argue that this isn't what he really desires. Why, then, does he keep citing Australia as a successful gun control model - where they confiscated guns?

4. Cut a deal with Iran. True. And a shitty deal at that.

5. Spies on Israel. True.

6. He said climate change our biggest threat. True. http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/climate-change-us-obama/

But mainly, not sure why you're getting so butthurt over an ad by a candidate who won't get the nomination.

You have an interesting definition of "butthurt" I don't think I indicated how I feel about Marco lying, I don't care by the way, I'm not a republican not my battle to fight.

1. He made the statement of fact without equivocation, that's a lie. If I said KSUW is a child molester you wouldn't reply with "how do you know I rape kids, I may I may not." He lied man, deal with it.
2. "Fighting harder for PP funding than troop funding" is not what he said, I quoted what he said. If he said what you said it wouldn't have been a lie, unfortunately he lied though.
3. Your attempt here was feeble, lets agree he lied and move on.
I have no idea why you have a 4-6 since I was pretty clear that he didn't lie about those things. You used a whole bunch of words when "yep he told three bald face lies" would have worked just fine.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #284 on: January 18, 2016, 11:15:39 AM »
Again, the closest thing to a lie was the gun claim. The funding for troops/pp isn't a lie - it's an opinion based on his actions. And there is evidence that freed Gitmo detainees have returned to terrorism, so that's not a lie either. You just sound silly.
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #285 on: January 18, 2016, 11:22:14 AM »
Again, the closest thing to a lie was the gun claim. The funding for troops/pp isn't a lie - it's an opinion based on his actions. And there is evidence that freed Gitmo detainees have returned to terrorism, so that's not a lie either. You just sound silly.

Show me where he is funding Planned Parenthood in lieu of defense funding and show me hard proof of prisoners released from Gitmo plotting against the country and I'll gladly retract. A serious candidate for president shouldn't sound like a greatest hits of the facebook thread.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #286 on: January 18, 2016, 07:34:41 PM »
18% of released Gitmo detainees are confirmed reengaging, another 11% suspected  of reengaging. Almost a third.

http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Guantanamo%20Unclassified%20Release_March%202015_FINAL.pdf

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #287 on: January 18, 2016, 07:45:25 PM »
The "three lies" allegation has been completely debunked in the Uber Libtarded thread.  As it turns out, MIR is the liar.
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #288 on: January 18, 2016, 10:35:52 PM »
18% of released Gitmo detainees are confirmed reengaging, another 11% suspected  of reengaging. Almost a third.

http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Guantanamo%20Unclassified%20Release_March%202015_FINAL.pdf

Thank you for that. Two lies.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #289 on: January 19, 2016, 05:56:53 AM »
Who will trump pick for vp?


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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #290 on: January 19, 2016, 08:47:33 AM »
Who will trump pick for vp?


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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #291 on: January 19, 2016, 08:55:07 AM »
The streetball legends daughter?
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #292 on: January 19, 2016, 09:36:10 AM »
Who will trump pick for vp?


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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #293 on: January 19, 2016, 09:53:08 AM »
Putin. Is that allowed? What am I talking about - Trump will do it anyway.
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #294 on: January 19, 2016, 10:08:03 AM »
If it's not Busey, then this is all for naught.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #295 on: January 19, 2016, 11:32:13 AM »
Who will trump pick for vp?


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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #296 on: January 19, 2016, 04:11:29 PM »
I have a sneaking suspicion that Trump is going to pick a Democrat running mate. I'm serious.
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« Reply #297 on: January 19, 2016, 04:21:24 PM »
I need to Google it, but isn't the job of the Super Delegate to out weigh the general public when it comes the public selecting someone the party would rather not be their guy/woman?  I mean, no way he wins the primary if the party system has a catch all last ditch defense against crazy, right?

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« Reply #298 on: January 19, 2016, 04:34:10 PM »
I need to Google it, but isn't the job of the Super Delegate to out weigh the general public when it comes the public selecting someone the party would rather not be their guy/woman?  I mean, no way he wins the primary if the party system has a catch all last ditch defense against crazy, right?

I was thinking the same thing about the electoral college. If Trump won the presidential election and I were sent by the republican party to cast a vote for the electoral college, I don't think I'd vote for him. Isn't that the entire reason that system exists?

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« Reply #299 on: January 19, 2016, 08:04:55 PM »

I need to Google it, but isn't the job of the Super Delegate to out weigh the general public when it comes the public selecting someone the party would rather not be their guy/woman?  I mean, no way he wins the primary if the party system has a catch all last ditch defense against crazy, right?

That's what the electoral college was for.  Primary probably works the same way


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