Marco Rubio Master Thread

[Institutional Control]

The biggest reason for me not to vote for Rubio is K-S-U's endorsement.


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[MakeItRain]

I need to Google it, but isn't the job of the Super Delegate to out weigh the general public when it comes the public selecting someone the party would rather not be their guy/woman?  I mean, no way he wins the primary if the party system has a catch all last ditch defense against crazy, right?

That's what the electoral college was for.  Primary probably works the same way


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Yes, it's the same for the most part. The caucuses and primaries only serve to strongly suggest how the delegates should vote at the convention. It is much more likely that the convention would produce a candidate that differentiated from the popular vote because of the super delegates among other factors. Howard Dean had more super delegate pledges than John Kerry did but they fell in line because Kerry had more delegates. No one is talking about it but nothing the democratic convention could be more of a crap show than the republican convention. Hillrod's people are are fanatical and aren't above pulling some bullshit.

[Kat Kid]

The parties set their own rules at the convention. The entire primary process is subject to a ton of shenanigans if the delegates and party operators want them to be.

[MakeItRain]

If the democratic race is not relatively close then the convention will be fine. A Trump or Cruz delegate win sends the republican convention into a tailspin.

[Yard Dog]

Marco's response to an Atheists question about religion and politics:

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I think he answered this well. Not pushy, but loving, caring and clear. See what you think.

[Yard Dog]

Marco got the endorsement of the Des Moines Register. The person who got that endorsement has gone on to be the nominee for the last 20 years.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/endorsement/2016/01/23/des-moines-register-iowa-caucus-endorsement-marco-rubio/79240264/

[star seed 7]

Has anyone in the history of the country ever gave a crap about political endorsements?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Has anyone in the history of the country ever gave a crap about political endorsements?

Palin endorsing Trump was big news, apparently.

[MakeItRain]

Has anyone in the history of the country ever gave a crap about political endorsements?

Certainly not in the information age, no.

[Yard Dog]

Has anyone in the history of the country ever gave a crap about political endorsements?

Voters who don't pay attention to the debates and chatter might take into consideration a candidate being endorsed by the biggest newspaper in the state.

They might also stop and take notice due to the long running success of that endorsement choosing the eventual nominee.

I did some research but most of the recent articles written on the subject revolve around political endorsements. Which in this election seem to mean less. For a current running total of those endorsements go here: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/

Something I did see which could be very true, is that endorsements like these help open pocket books. Campaigns are expensive especially when it comes to media and advertising. So, if this locks up some more donations that could be value enough to get a few more ads on tv or pay for a few more grassroots volunteers going door to door. 

[MakeItRain]

Has anyone in the history of the country ever gave a crap about political endorsements?

Voters who don't pay attention to the debates and chatter might take into consideration a candidate being endorsed by the biggest newspaper in the state.

They might also stop and take notice due to the long running success of that endorsement choosing the eventual nominee.

I did some research but most of the recent articles written on the subject revolve around political endorsements. Which in this election seem to mean less. For a current running total of those endorsements go here: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/

Something I did see which could be very true, is that endorsements like these help open pocket books. Campaigns are expensive especially when it comes to media and advertising. So, if this locks up some more donations that could be value enough to get a few more ads on tv or pay for a few more grassroots volunteers going door to door.

Well that endorsement won't mean a damn thing here, maybe he'll finish third instead of fifth now?

[Yard Dog]

Well that endorsement won't mean a damn thing here, maybe he'll finish third instead of fifth now?

Which is also significant. If he can finish third or better in the first two states and the people below him start to drop out he can make a push in SC and on to Super Tuesday.

[MakeItRain]

Well that endorsement won't mean a damn thing here, maybe he'll finish third instead of fifth now?

Which is also significant. If he can finish third or better in the first two states and the people below him start to drop out he can make a push in SC and on to Super Tuesday.

What it means is he won't suffer the indignity of losing to Ben Carson.

[Yard Dog]

Well that endorsement won't mean a damn thing here, maybe he'll finish third instead of fifth now?

Which is also significant. If he can finish third or better in the first two states and the people below him start to drop out he can make a push in SC and on to Super Tuesday.

What it means is he won't suffer the indignity of losing to Ben Carson.

It is easy to simplify that the winners of either of the first two states automatically win, but that is not the case. Especially in this current political race. There is a lot of speculation that this years RNC convention could become a brokered convention. In that case, Trump would most assuredly not win the nomination. If that happens, and Rubio has a significant amount of support at that time, it is very possible he would take the nomination.

[Yard Dog]

Rubio had another monster debate night. He held his own and is widely seen as the winner.

Wanted to share this spot on ad redeeming an earlier moment seen as a blunder by Rubio.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't like Rubio much. I'd vote for him if he wins the nomination, since I think his policies are ok, but he's hard for me to get excited about. He just seems slimy to me. Everything he says is way too rehearsed.

[wetwillie]

He's also in the gang of 8 which sounds like a criminal enterprise.

[star seed 7]

I don't like Rubio much. I'd vote for him if he wins the nomination, since I think his policies are ok, but he's hard for me to get excited about. He just seems slimy to me. Everything he says is way too rehearsed.

He's very rehearsed, but in a nervous nelly way, not a slimy cruz way

[ednksu]

Rubio had another monster debate night. He held his own and is widely seen as the winner.

Wanted to share this spot on ad redeeming an earlier moment seen as a blunder by Rubio.

That ad was actually really good.

[chuckjames]

Watching 'Pub pundits and such openly rooting for Rubio, and telling everyone how great he did is quite funny to me.

[Yard Dog]

Watching 'Pub pundits and such openly rooting for Rubio, and telling everyone how great he did is quite funny to me.

go on? Do you have a different viewpoint?

[chuckjames]

I just dont think he will win the nomination, he has shitty ground game in the first 2 states. And the Frank ,whatever the hell is name is, focus group from last night was really funny. It was basically Roger Ailes telling him what he wanted the focus group to say. Obviously I'm just as biased as you are when it comes to this. But i think the numbers (polls, betting markets) are on my side.

[Yard Dog]

I just dont think he will win the nomination, he has shitty ground game in the first 2 states. And the Frank ,whatever the hell is name is, focus group from last night was really funny. It was basically Roger Ailes telling him what he wanted the focus group to say. Obviously I'm just as biased as you are when it comes to this. But i think the numbers (polls, betting markets) are on my side.

Betting markets were high on Rubio for awhile. I think he is banking on outlasting the guys below him. If he can pick up their voters he swings to the lead. His ground game did seem off, but by not establishing physical offices he saved a ton of money for his campaign. We will see how it all plays out/pays off.

[steve dave]

yard dog is to politics what that weird guy who sits next to you at the bar at some townie BWW is to sports

[steve dave]

here's rubios (and the GOPs) problem: he has no shot at winning a primary if he doesn't pander to the crazy right base. if he panders to the crazy right base he has no shot at winning a general election. what now?