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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #325 on: February 01, 2016, 08:24:26 AM »
the fox newsy, AM radioy, duck dynasty'y, evangelical facebook sharing, vitriolic masses have really got my party in a pickle and I don't like it.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #326 on: February 01, 2016, 08:24:53 AM »
Yes, I feel bad for known not crap human marco, do not feel bad for gop
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #327 on: February 01, 2016, 08:26:33 AM »
we are living in a reality where Marco Rubio could go on national television and say "deport all muslims" and his chances in the primary would improve. that's a legitimate thing that would actually happen.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #328 on: February 01, 2016, 09:20:32 AM »
I just dont think he will win the nomination, he has shitty ground game in the first 2 states. And the Frank ,whatever the hell is name is, focus group from last night was really funny. It was basically Roger Ailes telling him what he wanted the focus group to say. Obviously I'm just as biased as you are when it comes to this. But i think the numbers (polls, betting markets) are on my side.

Betting markets were high on Rubio for awhile. I think he is banking on outlasting the guys below him. If he can pick up their voters he swings to the lead. His ground game did seem off, but by not establishing physical offices he saved a ton of money for his campaign. We will see how it all plays out/pays off.

The betting market has Trump at basically 50% (actually a little higher), and Marco at 33%. They aren't even close.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #329 on: February 01, 2016, 10:11:45 AM »
Donald Trump may actually be better/more sane at foreign policy than Marco Rubio.

This is my problem with Rubio.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #330 on: February 01, 2016, 10:32:58 AM »
here's rubios (and the GOPs) problem: he has no shot at winning a primary if he doesn't pander to the crazy right base. if he panders to the crazy right base he has no shot at winning a general election. what now?

Except for this not being even remotely true, I agree. There is bipartisan support for hardline immigration enforcement, which is the reason why Trump has surged. He is getting a lot of cross-over support from traditional working class Dems.

If Rubio took a firmer stance on immigration - i.e., renouncing any support for a pathway to citizenship for lawbreakers - he would improve his chances both in the primary and the general. He doesn't have to say "deport all Muslims." The Republican primary electorate is skeptical of Rubio because of his support for a pathway to citizenship for those who came here illegally (or are now breaking our laws by overstaying their visas).

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #331 on: February 01, 2016, 10:38:45 AM »
Like sd said, he'd have to pander to the crazy right to win the primary.
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #332 on: February 01, 2016, 10:48:36 AM »
here's rubios (and the GOPs) problem: he has no shot at winning a primary if he doesn't pander to the crazy right base. if he panders to the crazy right base he has no shot at winning a general election. what now?

Except for this not being even remotely true, I agree. There is bipartisan support for hardline immigration enforcement, which is the reason why Trump has surged. He is getting a lot of cross-over support from traditional working class Dems.

If Rubio took a firmer stance on immigration - i.e., renouncing any support for a pathway to citizenship for lawbreakers - he would improve his chances both in the primary and the general. He doesn't have to say "deport all Muslims." The Republican primary electorate is skeptical of Rubio because of his support for a pathway to citizenship for those who came here illegally (or are now breaking our laws by overstaying their visas).

You honestly believe the majority of voters support 0% on investment income? Therefore basically lowing the tax rate of Wall Street to 0%.

I agree with you, there seems to be a big gap between what the elites want to do with immigration, and your everyday blue collar Joe wants.  I think the populists on both sides have proven to be isolationist, I do think the right has far more anger about it than the left.
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #333 on: February 01, 2016, 11:40:04 AM »
Donald Trump may actually be better/more sane at foreign policy than Marco Rubio.

This is my problem with Rubio.

He will absolutely gradually move to the middle starting at about 7 pm tonight,  Hillary's move starts at 7PM est on Feb. 9.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #334 on: February 01, 2016, 12:14:42 PM »
here's rubios (and the GOPs) problem: he has no shot at winning a primary if he doesn't pander to the crazy right base. if he panders to the crazy right base he has no shot at winning a general election. what now?

Except for this not being even remotely true, I agree. There is bipartisan support for hardline immigration enforcement, which is the reason why Trump has surged. He is getting a lot of cross-over support from traditional working class Dems.

If Rubio took a firmer stance on immigration - i.e., renouncing any support for a pathway to citizenship for lawbreakers - he would improve his chances both in the primary and the general. He doesn't have to say "deport all Muslims." The Republican primary electorate is skeptical of Rubio because of his support for a pathway to citizenship for those who came here illegally (or are now breaking our laws by overstaying their visas).

You honestly believe the majority of voters support 0% on investment income? Therefore basically lowing the tax rate of Wall Street to 0%.

I agree with you, there seems to be a big gap between what the elites want to do with immigration, and your everyday blue collar Joe wants.  I think the populists on both sides have proven to be isolationist, I do think the right has far more anger about it than the left.

I said nothing about investment income. You really think anyone is drawn to Trump based on tax policy? By far the biggest reason for Trump's bipartisan appeal is a desire for hardline immigration enforcement. I think it's a fair assumption that many voters don't have a damned clue what Trump stands for, or what he's previously stood for, besides "build a wall" and "deport them."
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #335 on: February 01, 2016, 12:22:08 PM »
here's rubios (and the GOPs) problem: he has no shot at winning a primary if he doesn't pander to the crazy right base. if he panders to the crazy right base he has no shot at winning a general election. what now?

Except for this not being even remotely true, I agree. There is bipartisan support for hardline immigration enforcement, which is the reason why Trump has surged. He is getting a lot of cross-over support from traditional working class Dems.

If Rubio took a firmer stance on immigration - i.e., renouncing any support for a pathway to citizenship for lawbreakers - he would improve his chances both in the primary and the general. He doesn't have to say "deport all Muslims." The Republican primary electorate is skeptical of Rubio because of his support for a pathway to citizenship for those who came here illegally (or are now breaking our laws by overstaying their visas).

You honestly believe the majority of voters support 0% on investment income? Therefore basically lowing the tax rate of Wall Street to 0%.

I agree with you, there seems to be a big gap between what the elites want to do with immigration, and your everyday blue collar Joe wants.  I think the populists on both sides have proven to be isolationist, I do think the right has far more anger about it than the left.

I said nothing about investment income. You really think anyone is drawn to Trump based on tax policy? By far the biggest reason for Trump's bipartisan appeal is a desire for hardline immigration enforcement. I think it's a fair assumption that many voters don't have a damned clue what Trump stands for, or what he's previously stood for, besides "build a wall" and "deport them."

We are probably arguing 2 different things. I guess my point was the whole no taxes on investment income shows how far Rubio has to go to the right on that topic. Agree, I'm honestly not sure what Trump believes on any issue.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #336 on: February 01, 2016, 12:45:12 PM »
here's rubios (and the GOPs) problem: he has no shot at winning a primary if he doesn't pander to the crazy right base. if he panders to the crazy right base he has no shot at winning a general election. what now?

Except for this not being even remotely true, I agree. There is bipartisan support for hardline immigration enforcement, which is the reason why Trump has surged. He is getting a lot of cross-over support from traditional working class Dems.

If Rubio took a firmer stance on immigration - i.e., renouncing any support for a pathway to citizenship for lawbreakers - he would improve his chances both in the primary and the general. He doesn't have to say "deport all Muslims." The Republican primary electorate is skeptical of Rubio because of his support for a pathway to citizenship for those who came here illegally (or are now breaking our laws by overstaying their visas).

You honestly believe the majority of voters support 0% on investment income? Therefore basically lowing the tax rate of Wall Street to 0%.

I agree with you, there seems to be a big gap between what the elites want to do with immigration, and your everyday blue collar Joe wants.  I think the populists on both sides have proven to be isolationist, I do think the right has far more anger about it than the left.

I said nothing about investment income. You really think anyone is drawn to Trump based on tax policy? By far the biggest reason for Trump's bipartisan appeal is a desire for hardline immigration enforcement. I think it's a fair assumption that many voters don't have a damned clue what Trump stands for, or what he's previously stood for, besides "build a wall" and "deport them."

We are probably arguing 2 different things. I guess my point was the whole no taxes on investment income shows how far Rubio has to go to the right on that topic. Agree, I'm honestly not sure what Trump believes on any issue.

That is not a new position for Rubio. It dates back at least as far as his 2010 senate run. Rubio is a fiscal conservative, particularly on tax policy. His point is that if we're going to tax income, we shouldn't double tax that income on any gains when we save (interest) or invest and risk (dividend of cap gains) it.
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #337 on: February 01, 2016, 08:32:07 PM »
here's rubios (and the GOPs) problem: he has no shot at winning a primary if he doesn't pander to the crazy right base. if he panders to the crazy right base he has no shot at winning a general election. what now?

Except for this not being even remotely true, I agree. There is bipartisan support for hardline immigration enforcement, which is the reason why Trump has surged. He is getting a lot of cross-over support from traditional working class Dems.

If Rubio took a firmer stance on immigration - i.e., renouncing any support for a pathway to citizenship for lawbreakers - he would improve his chances both in the primary and the general. He doesn't have to say "deport all Muslims." The Republican primary electorate is skeptical of Rubio because of his support for a pathway to citizenship for those who came here illegally (or are now breaking our laws by overstaying their visas).

You honestly believe the majority of voters support 0% on investment income? Therefore basically lowing the tax rate of Wall Street to 0%.

I agree with you, there seems to be a big gap between what the elites want to do with immigration, and your everyday blue collar Joe wants.  I think the populists on both sides have proven to be isolationist, I do think the right has far more anger about it than the left.

I said nothing about investment income. You really think anyone is drawn to Trump based on tax policy? By far the biggest reason for Trump's bipartisan appeal is a desire for hardline immigration enforcement. I think it's a fair assumption that many voters don't have a damned clue what Trump stands for, or what he's previously stood for, besides "build a wall" and "deport them."

We are probably arguing 2 different things. I guess my point was the whole no taxes on investment income shows how far Rubio has to go to the right on that topic. Agree, I'm honestly not sure what Trump believes on any issue.

That is not a new position for Rubio. It dates back at least as far as his 2010 senate run. Rubio is a fiscal conservative, particularly on tax policy. His point is that if we're going to tax income, we shouldn't double tax that income on any gains when we save (interest) or invest and risk (dividend of cap gains) it.

Ok a couple thoughts  on that economic theory. The earning power of K will always be greater than L, strictly Bc you can only do so much L, while K can grow infidelity. Which is why I think K should be taxed as high L. Bc while you are taking a risk with your K, you can make a lot more with K than L since L is always limited.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #339 on: February 01, 2016, 10:10:14 PM »
here's rubios (and the GOPs) problem: he has no shot at winning a primary if he doesn't pander to the crazy right base. if he panders to the crazy right base he has no shot at winning a general election. what now?

Based on iowa, this post was 100% dumbshit
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #340 on: February 01, 2016, 10:25:23 PM »
Immigration will hurt him.  Trump and Cruz Will crush him on amnesty


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« Reply #341 on: February 01, 2016, 10:27:26 PM »
Immigration will hurt him.  Trump and Cruz Will crush him on amnesty


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Hopefully the moderates start dropping like flies and Trump and Cruz split the crazy votes up.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #342 on: February 01, 2016, 10:31:05 PM »
here's rubios (and the GOPs) problem: he has no shot at winning a primary if he doesn't pander to the crazy right base. if he panders to the crazy right base he has no shot at winning a general election. what now?

Based on iowa, this post was 100% dumbshit

eff, way to be out in front of this critique you stupid eff. Nothing like calling an opinion dumb after the fact.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #343 on: February 01, 2016, 10:34:08 PM »
But he didn't win the primary. He came in third. And that was considered a huge win.  :dunno:

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #344 on: February 01, 2016, 10:36:02 PM »
here's rubios (and the GOPs) problem: he has no shot at winning a primary if he doesn't pander to the crazy right base. if he panders to the crazy right base he has no shot at winning a general election. what now?

Based on iowa, this post was 100% dumbshit

eff, way to be out in front of this critique you stupid eff. Nothing like calling an opinion dumb after the fact.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #345 on: February 01, 2016, 10:37:13 PM »
 :ROFL: @MIR
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #346 on: February 01, 2016, 10:38:04 PM »
We should probably rename this the President Rubio master thread
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #347 on: February 01, 2016, 10:39:02 PM »
here's rubios (and the GOPs) problem: he has no shot at winning a primary if he doesn't pander to the crazy right base. if he panders to the crazy right base he has no shot at winning a general election. what now?

Based on iowa, this post was 100% dumbshit

eff, way to be out in front of this critique you stupid eff. Nothing like calling an opinion dumb after the fact.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #348 on: February 01, 2016, 10:39:51 PM »
I like to say his name like I'm announcing a boxing match.  Maaaaaaarrccooo Ruuuubbbbiiiiooo
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #349 on: February 01, 2016, 10:41:37 PM »
I like to say his name like I'm announcing a boxing match.  Maaaaaaarrccooo Ruuuubbbbiiiiooo

big plus in the rubio column
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