Marco Rubio Master Thread

[mocat]

That foam party looked fun AF

[kso_FAN]

That foam party looked fun AF

[steve dave]

a close third is a lot better than I thought he was going to do. I like that.

[Emo EMAW]

I'd like him a lot better if he was from Nevada or Colorado or something like that.

[ChiComCat]

As far as primaries go, Cruz kinda needs Trump in the race to make him seem at least a little bit moderate.  I think a Rubio v Cruz head to head would be pretty one sided.

For the general election, Trump would give the WH to the Dems, Cruz would be in a battle, and Rubio would win easily.  I'm still holding out hope that a strong NH gets Kasich in the mix but it looks like Rubio will be the establishment/moderate torchbearer. 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

here's rubios (and the GOPs) problem: he has no shot at winning a primary if he doesn't pander to the crazy right base. if he panders to the crazy right base he has no shot at winning a general election. what now?

Based on iowa, this post was 100% dumbshit

eff, way to be out in front of this critique you stupid eff. Nothing like calling an opinion dumb after the fact.

I pointed out how stupid this post was before Iowa! 

here's rubios (and the GOPs) problem: he has no shot at winning a primary if he doesn't pander to the crazy right base. if he panders to the crazy right base he has no shot at winning a general election. what now?

Except for this not being even remotely true, I agree. There is bipartisan support for hardline immigration enforcement, which is the reason why Trump has surged. He is getting a lot of cross-over support from traditional working class Dems.

If Rubio took a firmer stance on immigration - i.e., renouncing any support for a pathway to citizenship for lawbreakers - he would improve his chances both in the primary and the general. He doesn't have to say "deport all Muslims." The Republican primary electorate is skeptical of Rubio because of his support for a pathway to citizenship for those who came here illegally (or are now breaking our laws by overstaying their visas).

[Cire]

Yes the GOP will carry rubio


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[wetwillie]

Marco W Bush

[steve dave]

Marco W Bush

 

[steve dave]

But with Rubio

[Cire]

What's Marcos first initiative as pres ?


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[star seed 7]

Foam party in the Lincoln bedroom

[CNS]

Until Super Tuesday, it's probably repealing the ACA.

[Cire]

Until Super Tuesday, it's probably repealing the ACA.

What's his replacement?

[CNS]

You mean, what will it actually be if elected?  No clue.

[wELLsculptedbrows]

I wonder if ACA is keeping him from seeing an otolaryngologist about his gross mouth stuff.

[MakeItRain]

As far as primaries go, Cruz kinda needs Trump in the race to make him seem at least a little bit moderate.  I think a Rubio v Cruz head to head would be pretty one sided.

For the general election, Trump would give the WH to the Dems, Cruz would be in a battle, and Rubio would win easily.  I'm still holding out hope that a strong NH gets Kasich in the mix but it looks like Rubio will be the establishment/moderate torchbearer.

I mean I guess this could all happen if you ignore all of the existing metrics and common sense. First of all no candidate is winning anything easily in the general. Even in Obama's two landslide electoral college wins he had to sweat the battleground states. Frankly the demographics of the country and the two parties make a republican blowout nearly impossible despite what the dumbass neocons will come in her and say.

Secondly I have no idea why you think Cruz is more electable than Trump, that is the opposite of true. Trump can draw conservative voters, independent voters, and even blue collar moderate democrats. Ted Cruz is absolutely the most limited candidate left when it comes to appeal beyond his base. He may be the most unliked candidate to win a state in a long while and that says a lot given Santorum won Iowa four years ago.

[sys]

I have no idea why you think Cruz is more electable than Trump, that is the opposite of true. Trump can draw conservative voters, independent voters, and even blue collar moderate democrats.

there was a good link here a week or so ago about how trump supporters correlate really strongly with a proclivity towards authoritarianism and much less so with any political philosophy.

[ChiComCat]

As far as primaries go, Cruz kinda needs Trump in the race to make him seem at least a little bit moderate.  I think a Rubio v Cruz head to head would be pretty one sided.

For the general election, Trump would give the WH to the Dems, Cruz would be in a battle, and Rubio would win easily.  I'm still holding out hope that a strong NH gets Kasich in the mix but it looks like Rubio will be the establishment/moderate torchbearer.

I mean I guess this could all happen if you ignore all of the existing metrics and common sense. First of all no candidate is winning anything easily in the general. Even in Obama's two landslide electoral college wins he had to sweat the battleground states. Frankly the demographics of the country and the two parties make a republican blowout nearly impossible despite what the dumbass neocons will come in her and say.

Secondly I have no idea why you think Cruz is more electable than Trump, that is the opposite of true. Trump can draw conservative voters, independent voters, and even blue collar moderate democrats. Ted Cruz is absolutely the most limited candidate left when it comes to appeal beyond his base. He may be the most unliked candidate to win a state in a long while and that says a lot given Santorum won Iowa four years ago.

My spectrum of clear loss to win easily is relative.  I don't think Rubio is going to runaway with 450 electoral votes or anything, but I think he would have a pretty clear path in the contested states that generally make the difference.  Between the inclination of the country to shift parties after two terms and the two Dem candidates, I think this election is pretty ripe for the GOP if they can provide any semblance of a moderate candidate.

Trump is less electable because of his insane antics.  The same things that got him to #1 in a crowded field limit his ability to grow beyond that.  The favorability numbers show him attracting any new voters as a potential problem.  At this point, I think you can use regular polls to eliminate nonviable candidates (Bush, Carson, etc) and use the favorability numbers to see who has the best shot to gain once they drop.

[MakeItRain]

Ted Cruz is dead ass last in any favoribility rating, doesn't matter though as he is not a viable candidate..

[Dugout DickStone]

I'd like him a lot better if he was from Nevada or Colorado or something like that.

also, that rough ridin' bottled water thing haunts me

[Cire]

The gop wants Rubio, unless he really had an affair with a lobbyist or whoever the party will get whom they want


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[ChiComCat]

Ted Cruz is dead ass last in any favoribility rating, doesn't matter though as he is not a viable candidate..

They had Trump about 10 points of unfavorability on Teddy.  I hope your right about Cruz not being viable.  I agree with Cire that Rubio is in the pole position for the GOP.  The "establishment" will rally around a non-Trump/non-Cruz candidate before long.

[Kat Kid]

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/695056822336622596

[star seed 7]

lol wut