Author Topic: Marco Rubio Master Thread (Read 75835 times)

MakeItRain · « **Reply #250 on:** January 07, 2016, 02:15:25 PM »

I wonder how professed good Christians square questioning the honesty of a professed Christian because they disagree with his political views, seems super Un-Christian to me.

Yard Dog · « **Reply #251 on:** January 07, 2016, 04:39:26 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on January 07, 2016, 02:04:34 PM

I love the idea of yard dog finishing that article and actually thinking "yup, I see no red flags that this is lying to me, that gosh dang obama needs replaced with a good moral christian"

Well you love an untrue idea then. In that case cling to it if you want. I don't mind. It isn't about who is the best Christian, that is what people like Ted Cruz are pushing for. It is about who are we going to put in office that will have good morals.

I'd rather have Obama in office who is visibly shaken about talking about the deaths of children at Sandy Hook than someone who is indifferent to the death of their people.

Whether or not someone is a "good Christian" is not up to me to decide. That is between him/her and their Lord. The initial intent was to show for those that it would matter to that, yes, Marco is a Christian and obviously not in words only. When you have someone in power who is a Christian in words only (some believe that is the story for Obama, but I don't have an opinion or evidence on that matter) it tends to misrepresent the whole.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #252 on:** January 07, 2016, 04:44:40 PM »

You do have an opinion tho, and you attempted to show evidence

Yard Dog · « **Reply #253 on:** January 08, 2016, 07:01:03 AM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on January 07, 2016, 04:44:40 PM

You do have an opinion tho, and you attempted to show evidence

Nah, you want to know the truth? When you asked that I googled the subject matter, skimmed through some articles, copied and pasted the one that seemed interesting enough here and moved on. Those five minutes or so are probably the most all at one time moment that I have spent even considering the validity of Obama's dedication to his Christian faith.

Obama isn't actually the enemy in all this. He was elected into office and he has done the best job in his mind. Good for that. Now it is time to change control at the ballot box. Another term or two of people who are farther left than he is might be extremely detrimental to the country. Isolationism or presenting a weak front abroad will only put our country in further danger of terror. That isn't fear mongering, that is truth. I think Marco has the best understanding of this and the best perspective going forward. Add into that the conniving nature of the lead candidates on both sides who obviously have questionable morals and the need to push a better candidate forward is even more pressing.

OK_Cat · « **Reply #254 on:** January 08, 2016, 08:46:23 AM »

Love it when yard dog uses big words

Yard Dog · « **Reply #255 on:** January 08, 2016, 09:32:21 AM »

Quote from: OK_Cat on January 08, 2016, 08:46:23 AM

Love it when yard dog uses big words

Now if only I could figure out punctuation. I'd be on to something!

chuckjames · « **Reply #256 on:** January 11, 2016, 02:44:43 PM »

Down to 4th place in the newest New Hapshire poll.

Yard Dog · « **Reply #257 on:** January 13, 2016, 11:28:55 AM »

Quote from: chuckjames on January 11, 2016, 02:44:43 PM

Down to 4th place in the newest New Hapshire poll.

He is at 12% while Cruz and Kasich are at 14% with a margin of error of plus or minus 4.8%. So. . .considering the margin of error, he is somewhere between second and fifth.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #258 on:** January 13, 2016, 12:42:01 PM »

Quote from: Yard Dog on January 13, 2016, 11:28:55 AM

Quote from: chuckjames on January 11, 2016, 02:44:43 PM
Down to 4th place in the newest New Hapshire poll.

He is at 12% while Cruz and Kasich are at 14% with a margin of error of plus or minus 4.8%. So. . .considering the margin of error, he is somewhere between second and fifth.

He's behind Kasich?

Yard Dog · « **Reply #259 on:** January 13, 2016, 01:15:57 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on January 13, 2016, 12:42:01 PM

Quote from: Yard Dog on January 13, 2016, 11:28:55 AM
Quote from: chuckjames on January 11, 2016, 02:44:43 PM
Down to 4th place in the newest New Hapshire poll.

He is at 12% while Cruz and Kasich are at 14% with a margin of error of plus or minus 4.8%. So. . .considering the margin of error, he is somewhere between second and fifth.

He's behind Kasich?

Well the polling folks called 400 people and determined from that that Kasich is doing well in New Hampshire. With the margin of error, he might be leading Kasich by as much as 7 points.

steve dave · « **Reply #260 on:** January 13, 2016, 01:17:33 PM »

Quote from: Yard Dog on January 13, 2016, 01:15:57 PM

Quote from: MakeItRain on January 13, 2016, 12:42:01 PM
Quote from: Yard Dog on January 13, 2016, 11:28:55 AM
Quote from: chuckjames on January 11, 2016, 02:44:43 PM
Down to 4th place in the newest New Hapshire poll.

He is at 12% while Cruz and Kasich are at 14% with a margin of error of plus or minus 4.8%. So. . .considering the margin of error, he is somewhere between second and fifth.

He's behind Kasich?

Well the polling folks called 400 people and determined from that that Kasich is doing well in New Hampshire. With the margin of error, he might be leading Kasich by as much as 7 points.

great work yardog, can you whip up the numbers for the amount he may be trailing kasich by?

Yard Dog · « **Reply #261 on:** January 13, 2016, 01:27:03 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on January 13, 2016, 01:17:33 PM

Quote from: Yard Dog on January 13, 2016, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 13, 2016, 12:42:01 PM
Quote from: Yard Dog on January 13, 2016, 11:28:55 AM
Quote from: chuckjames on January 11, 2016, 02:44:43 PM
Down to 4th place in the newest New Hapshire poll.

He is at 12% while Cruz and Kasich are at 14% with a margin of error of plus or minus 4.8%. So. . .considering the margin of error, he is somewhere between second and fifth.

He's behind Kasich?

Well the polling folks called 400 people and determined from that that Kasich is doing well in New Hampshire. With the margin of error, he might be leading Kasich by as much as 7 points.

great work yardog, can you whip up the numbers for the amount he may be trailing kasich by?

It could be by as much as 12. But hey, they called 400 people, so that is super accurate, don't you worry.

There are rumblings that Rubio might pick up Nikki Haley's endorsement, which would be huge.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #262 on:** January 13, 2016, 02:23:56 PM »

you adorably unaware little puppy

chum1 · « **Reply #263 on:** January 13, 2016, 03:24:46 PM »

Carson and Rubio still neck and neck.

Trump 37% 36% 38% 34% 35% 41% 35% 39% 35% 39% 35.9% 28% 34% 36% 39% 36.57%
Cruz 20% 19% 20% 18% 20% 15% 18% 13% 19% 18% 20.7% 24% 18% 11% 18% 18.57%
Rubio 14% 12% 11% 9% 13% 8% 13% 9% 14% 10% 13.4% 12% 13% 9% 11% 11.43%
Carson 6% 6% 9% 8% 10% 11% 9% 10% 7% 10% 7.1% 10% 6% 12% 9% 8.43%

Yard Dog · « **Reply #264 on:** January 13, 2016, 03:31:24 PM »

I'm hoping with a trimmed down debate on Thursday he can make positive strides towards locking down the undecideds and possibly flip some people who aren't 100% confident in their current choice.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #265 on:** January 17, 2016, 01:21:07 PM »

Welp, guess we can close this thread down. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/marco-rubio-immigrants-217895

I thought Marco was The One, but it seems he's just not gonna change his position on immigration. He appears to be getting some spectacularly bad advice on Republican views on illegal immigration and he's doubling down.

mocat · « **Reply #266 on:** January 17, 2016, 01:52:31 PM »

Wait that's it? He's out for you now, bc he doesn't want to deport everybody?

MakeItRain · « **Reply #267 on:** January 17, 2016, 02:54:18 PM »

Do you guys get the political ads in Kansas? Rubio is running an ad where he tells three flat out lies, not loose interpretations of the truth, but just flat out lies. Rubio also has a super PAC that is infatuated with Jeb, dude is polling at like 4% but Marco's super PAC has a weird obsession with him.

steve dave · « **Reply #268 on:** January 17, 2016, 03:39:15 PM »

Just saw a bizarre Jeb ad (get the Iowa spillover ads here) which was attacking Rubio. I had a very WTF reaction to it. Like, the guy in 8th place or whatever is spending money running attack ads against the guy in 3rd?

wetwillie · « **Reply #269 on:** January 17, 2016, 04:02:19 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on January 17, 2016, 02:54:18 PM

Do you guys get the political ads in Kansas? Rubio is running an ad where he tells three flat out lies, not loose interpretations of the truth, but just flat out lies. Rubio also has a super PAC that is infatuated with Jeb, dude is polling at like 4% but Marco's super PAC has a weird obsession with him.

Which lies is Marco telling the good people of Iowa?

Spracne · « **Reply #270 on:** January 17, 2016, 04:16:59 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on January 17, 2016, 03:39:15 PM

Just saw a bizarre Jeb ad (get the Iowa spillover ads here) which was attacking Rubio. I had a very WTF reaction to it. Like, the guy in 8th place or whatever is spending money running attack ads against the guy in 3rd?

Rubio is the smartest play for the Jeb team. Just like Trump and Cruz are tied together as representative of the radical/anti-establishment pub vote, Rubio and Jeb are tied together as representative of the moderate/establishment vote. Jeb has a better shot at winning over potential Rubio supporters than he does of winning over potential Trump/Cruz voters. They appeal to the same type of voters.

CNS · « **Reply #271 on:** January 17, 2016, 04:17:00 PM »

Ks gets no ads.

steve dave · « **Reply #272 on:** January 17, 2016, 04:19:39 PM »

Quote from: Spracne on January 17, 2016, 04:16:59 PM

Quote from: steve dave on January 17, 2016, 03:39:15 PM
Just saw a bizarre Jeb ad (get the Iowa spillover ads here) which was attacking Rubio. I had a very WTF reaction to it. Like, the guy in 8th place or whatever is spending money running attack ads against the guy in 3rd?

Rubio is the smartest play for the Jeb team. Just like Trump and Cruz are tied together as representative of the radical/anti-establishment pub vote, Rubio and Jeb are tied together as representative of the moderate/establishment vote. Jeb has a better shot at winning over potential Rubio supporters than he does of winning over potential Trump/Cruz voters. They appeal to the same type of voters.

That makes sense

renocat · « **Reply #273 on:** January 17, 2016, 04:24:59 PM »

Conservatives are too damn stupid to nominate the person who could.be the next President because of.hatred for Mexicans. I happen to be a smart conservative so I can support Marco. Screw the polls sampling of.morons who support trump over other candidates.

sys · « **Reply #274 on:** January 17, 2016, 04:31:46 PM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 17, 2016, 01:21:07 PM

Welp, guess we can close this thread down. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/marco-rubio-immigrants-217895

the article on how trump supporter correlates well with authoritarianism was interesting.