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Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 06, 2013, 10:58:39 PMQuote from: michigancat on October 06, 2013, 10:17:01 PMDo people honestly think National Parks maintain themselves?I don't think anyone thinks that, but good straw man. In fact, the house has, among other things, voted to continue funding the NPS, but the Senate refuses to accept any piecemeal funding because they need an all-or-nothing approach to protect the bloat. That is all beside the point, however. The point is that the Obama admin is not only "closing" things that don't cost a dime to keep open - like a rough ridin' view - it is actually spending money to close these things, not to mention paying a bunch of extra security to keep monuments closed that could just as easily be open, and for what?This whole thing is now a circus being ran by the libtards in order to pass all their "bloat"...shutting down views and highways is asinine and should not be tolerated. The monuments were payed for by the people, for the people...so if I want to drive to bumfuck SD or AZ to look at a monument, I goddamn will.I've had enough of this crap...
Quote from: michigancat on October 06, 2013, 10:17:01 PMDo people honestly think National Parks maintain themselves?I don't think anyone thinks that, but good straw man. In fact, the house has, among other things, voted to continue funding the NPS, but the Senate refuses to accept any piecemeal funding because they need an all-or-nothing approach to protect the bloat. That is all beside the point, however. The point is that the Obama admin is not only "closing" things that don't cost a dime to keep open - like a rough ridin' view - it is actually spending money to close these things, not to mention paying a bunch of extra security to keep monuments closed that could just as easily be open, and for what?
Do people honestly think National Parks maintain themselves?
Quote from: ShellShock on October 07, 2013, 08:42:28 AMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 06, 2013, 10:58:39 PMQuote from: michigancat on October 06, 2013, 10:17:01 PMDo people honestly think National Parks maintain themselves?I don't think anyone thinks that, but good straw man. In fact, the house has, among other things, voted to continue funding the NPS, but the Senate refuses to accept any piecemeal funding because they need an all-or-nothing approach to protect the bloat. That is all beside the point, however. The point is that the Obama admin is not only "closing" things that don't cost a dime to keep open - like a rough ridin' view - it is actually spending money to close these things, not to mention paying a bunch of extra security to keep monuments closed that could just as easily be open, and for what?This whole thing is now a circus being ran by the libtards in order to pass all their "bloat"...shutting down views and highways is asinine and should not be tolerated. The monuments were payed for by the people, for the people...so if I want to drive to bumfuck SD or AZ to look at a monument, I goddamn will.I've had enough of this crap...everything shut down was paid for by the people
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning. They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.
Ok, this one's not real, yet, but I thought it was funny: "Due to a SHUTDOWN of 15% of the federal government, including much of the EPA, the American people are now required to hold their breath for 15% of each day. Your compliance is mandatory."
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 09:12:29 AMOk, this one's not real, yet, but I thought it was funny: "Due to a SHUTDOWN of 15% of the federal government, including much of the EPA, the American people are now required to hold their breath for 15% of each day. Your compliance is mandatory."You actually thought that was funny?
You actually thought that was funny?
Quote from: Limestone on October 07, 2013, 09:31:21 AMYou actually thought that was funny?moderate post
Quote from: Tobias on October 07, 2013, 09:39:56 AMQuote from: Limestone on October 07, 2013, 09:31:21 AMYou actually thought that was funny?moderate postI really enjoyed the moderate weather this weekend. How about you?
Quote from: Limestone on October 07, 2013, 09:31:21 AMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 09:12:29 AMOk, this one's not real, yet, but I thought it was funny: "Due to a SHUTDOWN of 15% of the federal government, including much of the EPA, the American people are now required to hold their breath for 15% of each day. Your compliance is mandatory."You actually thought that was funny?Right, because the EPA provides our air. Never mind, I've got a weird sense of humor.Back to the real stuff, the Amber Alert website is down due to the SHUTDOWN, but Michelle Obama's "Let's Move" website is still running just fine. We've got to prioritize during these lean times, people! Message to kids: Stay in shape so you can outrun your abductors!
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 09:38:27 AMQuote from: Limestone on October 07, 2013, 09:31:21 AMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 09:12:29 AMOk, this one's not real, yet, but I thought it was funny: "Due to a SHUTDOWN of 15% of the federal government, including much of the EPA, the American people are now required to hold their breath for 15% of each day. Your compliance is mandatory."You actually thought that was funny?Right, because the EPA provides our air. Never mind, I've got a weird sense of humor.Back to the real stuff, the Amber Alert website is down due to the SHUTDOWN, but Michelle Obama's "Let's Move" website is still running just fine. We've got to prioritize during these lean times, people! Message to kids: Stay in shape so you can outrun your abductors!http://www.amberalert.gov/
Quote from: seven on October 07, 2013, 01:16:19 AMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 07, 2013, 01:00:06 AMIt does seem like they're using more resources keeping people from enjoying the parks than just keeping them open and staffed as normal.what is the rough ridin' point of a government shutdown if everything the government runs stays open. this is the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) political theater i've ever seen in my life. shut down rough ridin' everything, then people will actually see how Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) the republitards are. it's rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that stupid rough ridin' morons like K-S-U quibble over what should and shouldn't be shut down in a rough ridin' SHUTDOWN. shut the whole rough rider down.Respectfully, you're missing the point, and I'm not sure why. It's very simple. The federal government is, in many cases, spending more resources keeping parks and monuments closed than if they simply remained open. For example, there was absolutely no reason to set down cones closing off scenic overlooks to Mt. Rushmore - that view doesn't cost the government a dime, but they spent money anyway to put the cones down. It was purely punitive. They've evidently done the same thing with roads near the Grand Canyon. Similarly, with the amount of security employed to keep many monuments closed, they could just as easily remain open. The government saves no money with these actions - liberals are simply trying to punish Americans because they're not getting their way. "We own this, and you peasants don't get to see it until you feed us, with no conditions." It is a perfect illustration of the tyranny inherent in big government.You are correct that even during the SHUTDOWN, a big chunk of the government (I've heard 87%?!) is still open. Your frustration that the SHUTDOWN isn't more painful is somewhat amusing, coming from a liberal who I presume advocates for more government. It is this very "I'll show you" attitude that is causing Obama to pointlessly close down public parks and monuments.
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 07, 2013, 01:00:06 AMIt does seem like they're using more resources keeping people from enjoying the parks than just keeping them open and staffed as normal.what is the rough ridin' point of a government shutdown if everything the government runs stays open. this is the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) political theater i've ever seen in my life. shut down rough ridin' everything, then people will actually see how Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) the republitards are. it's rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that stupid rough ridin' morons like K-S-U quibble over what should and shouldn't be shut down in a rough ridin' SHUTDOWN. shut the whole rough rider down.
It does seem like they're using more resources keeping people from enjoying the parks than just keeping them open and staffed as normal.
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on October 07, 2013, 11:28:54 AMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 09:38:27 AMQuote from: Limestone on October 07, 2013, 09:31:21 AMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 09:12:29 AMOk, this one's not real, yet, but I thought it was funny: "Due to a SHUTDOWN of 15% of the federal government, including much of the EPA, the American people are now required to hold their breath for 15% of each day. Your compliance is mandatory."You actually thought that was funny?Right, because the EPA provides our air. Never mind, I've got a weird sense of humor.Back to the real stuff, the Amber Alert website is down due to the SHUTDOWN, but Michelle Obama's "Let's Move" website is still running just fine. We've got to prioritize during these lean times, people! Message to kids: Stay in shape so you can outrun your abductors!http://www.amberalert.gov/ They just made it look like it was downhttp://www.infowars.com/was-governments-amber-alert-offline-notice-a-fake/Man, what a circus.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 08:40:34 AMQuote from: seven on October 07, 2013, 01:16:19 AMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 07, 2013, 01:00:06 AMIt does seem like they're using more resources keeping people from enjoying the parks than just keeping them open and staffed as normal.what is the rough ridin' point of a government shutdown if everything the government runs stays open. this is the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) political theater i've ever seen in my life. shut down rough ridin' everything, then people will actually see how Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) the republitards are. it's rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that stupid rough ridin' morons like K-S-U quibble over what should and shouldn't be shut down in a rough ridin' SHUTDOWN. shut the whole rough rider down.Respectfully, you're missing the point, and I'm not sure why. It's very simple. The federal government is, in many cases, spending more resources keeping parks and monuments closed than if they simply remained open. For example, there was absolutely no reason to set down cones closing off scenic overlooks to Mt. Rushmore - that view doesn't cost the government a dime, but they spent money anyway to put the cones down. It was purely punitive. They've evidently done the same thing with roads near the Grand Canyon. Similarly, with the amount of security employed to keep many monuments closed, they could just as easily remain open. The government saves no money with these actions - liberals are simply trying to punish Americans because they're not getting their way. "We own this, and you peasants don't get to see it until you feed us, with no conditions." It is a perfect illustration of the tyranny inherent in big government.You are correct that even during the SHUTDOWN, a big chunk of the government (I've heard 87%?!) is still open. Your frustration that the SHUTDOWN isn't more painful is somewhat amusing, coming from a liberal who I presume advocates for more government. It is this very "I'll show you" attitude that is causing Obama to pointlessly close down public parks and monuments.Dude, if you would have read the article about the Grand Canyon you would realize the highways in were shutdown for safety reasons because of the overflow of traffic and shoulder parking. I'm sure that's the case for Rushmore and other attractions.
Hey guys, were any of you planning on attending tomorrow's "amnesty so we can have Obamacare, too" rally at the National Mall? Don't worry, it will NOT be impacted by the government SHUTDOWN.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 01:58:11 PMHey guys, were any of you planning on attending tomorrow's "amnesty so we can have Obamacare, too" rally at the National Mall? Don't worry, it will NOT be impacted by the government SHUTDOWN.Well, let's hope they get Obamacare so we can stop paying for their trips to the ER.
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on October 07, 2013, 02:00:02 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 01:58:11 PMHey guys, were any of you planning on attending tomorrow's "amnesty so we can have Obamacare, too" rally at the National Mall? Don't worry, it will NOT be impacted by the government SHUTDOWN.Well, let's hope they get Obamacare so we can stop paying for their trips to the ER.Right on. Then "Obamacare" will pay for it instead of us! And if Obamacare can pay for everyone's healthcare, can't it pony up a little more to pay off a few trillion of our debt? Come on Obamacare, don't be stingy.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 02:05:15 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on October 07, 2013, 02:00:02 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 01:58:11 PMHey guys, were any of you planning on attending tomorrow's "amnesty so we can have Obamacare, too" rally at the National Mall? Don't worry, it will NOT be impacted by the government SHUTDOWN.Well, let's hope they get Obamacare so we can stop paying for their trips to the ER.Right on. Then "Obamacare" will pay for it instead of us! And if Obamacare can pay for everyone's healthcare, can't it pony up a little more to pay off a few trillion of our debt? Come on Obamacare, don't be stingy.No, they would be paying for it themselves or getting fined, just like us.
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on October 07, 2013, 02:07:32 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 02:05:15 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on October 07, 2013, 02:00:02 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 01:58:11 PMHey guys, were any of you planning on attending tomorrow's "amnesty so we can have Obamacare, too" rally at the National Mall? Don't worry, it will NOT be impacted by the government SHUTDOWN.Well, let's hope they get Obamacare so we can stop paying for their trips to the ER.Right on. Then "Obamacare" will pay for it instead of us! And if Obamacare can pay for everyone's healthcare, can't it pony up a little more to pay off a few trillion of our debt? Come on Obamacare, don't be stingy.No, they would be paying for it themselves or getting fined, just like us.Right. Except for the massive subsidies being provided to purchase said policies. "Obamacare" will pay for those, though, so no worries!
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 03:03:47 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on October 07, 2013, 02:07:32 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 02:05:15 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on October 07, 2013, 02:00:02 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 01:58:11 PMHey guys, were any of you planning on attending tomorrow's "amnesty so we can have Obamacare, too" rally at the National Mall? Don't worry, it will NOT be impacted by the government SHUTDOWN.Well, let's hope they get Obamacare so we can stop paying for their trips to the ER.Right on. Then "Obamacare" will pay for it instead of us! And if Obamacare can pay for everyone's healthcare, can't it pony up a little more to pay off a few trillion of our debt? Come on Obamacare, don't be stingy.No, they would be paying for it themselves or getting fined, just like us.Right. Except for the massive subsidies being provided to purchase said policies. "Obamacare" will pay for those, though, so no worries!At least they will pay something. How is that not better than the alternative where they just show up at the ER for "charity" care?
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on October 07, 2013, 03:08:12 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 03:03:47 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on October 07, 2013, 02:07:32 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 02:05:15 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on October 07, 2013, 02:00:02 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 07, 2013, 01:58:11 PMHey guys, were any of you planning on attending tomorrow's "amnesty so we can have Obamacare, too" rally at the National Mall? Don't worry, it will NOT be impacted by the government SHUTDOWN.Well, let's hope they get Obamacare so we can stop paying for their trips to the ER.Right on. Then "Obamacare" will pay for it instead of us! And if Obamacare can pay for everyone's healthcare, can't it pony up a little more to pay off a few trillion of our debt? Come on Obamacare, don't be stingy.No, they would be paying for it themselves or getting fined, just like us.Right. Except for the massive subsidies being provided to purchase said policies. "Obamacare" will pay for those, though, so no worries!At least they will pay something. How is that not better than the alternative where they just show up at the ER for "charity" care?Unless Obamacare and legalization causes them to consume more healthcare than they already do (likely), and this then drives up premiums for everyone else, in addition to footing the bill for the subsidies. Yes, adding 15-30 million mostly poor to our already crumbling entitlement system sounds like a marvelous idea!