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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: Pete on April 21, 2010, 07:49:13 PM
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Check out the first comment on this story....
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/apr/21/lawrence-developer-set-be-sentenced-thursday-junct/
Anyone have any more details on this?
Would really be remarkable if something came of this....I mean the track record of "connected" KU boosters over the past few years is quite a story.
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rodney?
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rodney?
Morningstar.
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rough ridin' dirt bag. End. Of. Story.
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I'd comment but pretty sure Ben would say I was a bad poster so can't say anything.
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I'd comment but pretty sure Ben would say I was a bad poster so can't say anything.
Hater
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More Resignations in the ku athletic department, and the word that hundreds of thousands of dollars are missing.
The ku seniors and likely guys headed to the NBA on their barnstorming tour aka the cash express that players are promised who go to ku . . . The barnstorming has always been a money laundering operation to funnel booster gifts through to outgoing players.
You'd only have to ask where the money missing in the ku athletic department ended up.
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:popcorn:
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Freeman is a two-bit wannabe.
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:surprised:
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Maybe someone could get BillyBob1 to post his story over here. Love that the "source" is named BillyBob. Would be funny if it was the Gorilla drummer from Showbiz Pizza
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http://www.kansascity.com/2010/04/21/1893855/rodney-jones-director-of-kus-williams.html
Rats jumping from a sinking ship. Anyone with insidery stuff that explains just how bad corruption in the athletic dept really is? ku gave us a hard time about the super secret Prince agreement and all the crap that went on until Currie was brought in, but at least the feds didn't get involved with a criminal investigation. I do know once the feds are involved (1) There's a substantial amount of money involved, and (2) The allegations of criminal conduct tend to be authentic.
Any observations?
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Freeman is a Doug Compton wannabe, but never made it.
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Would be funny if it was the Gorilla drummer from Showbiz Pizza
wow, great post
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what does brady's dad do (besides get him a good lawyer)?
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My little ku buddies say that Lew is a goner. I also have seen discussion of this elsewhere. Word is that the new KU Chancellor and the Board of Regents are less than thrilled with what is going on over at KU Athletics. Some in Tardville are in denial.
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Would be funny if it was the Gorilla drummer from Showbiz Pizza
wow, great post
ditto
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Would be funny if it was the Gorilla drummer from Showbiz Pizza
wow, great post
Ya, I snorted when I read that. I was a FREQUENT visitor to the Showbiz at Huntoon and Gage in Topeka.
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Would be funny if it was the Gorilla drummer from Showbiz Pizza
wow, great post
ditto
Sugar Dick is fast becoming a highly valued member of the board. Plus, his name gives people an excuse to type "Sugar Dick" over and over.
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Would be funny if it was the Gorilla drummer from Showbiz Pizza
wow, great post
ditto
Sugar Dick is fast becoming a highly valued member of the board. Plus, his name gives people an excuse to type "Sugar Dick" over and over.
Pete and I play softball with a gentleman named Sugar Dick Daddy. He goes by Sugar D sometimes. Wonder if it is that same dude?
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My little ku buddies say that Lew is a goner. I also have seen discussion of this elsewhere. Word is that the new KU Chancellor and the Board of Regents are less than thrilled with what is going on over at KU Athletics. Some in Tardville are in denial.
There's a lot of piglets on the sow's teats that is the ku athletic dept.
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http://www.kansascity.com/2010/04/22/1895358/olathe-lawyer-says-client-tipped.html
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Leaving the federal courthouse in Topeka in the rain, Cornwell quipped, “I should have brought my K-State umbrella.”
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OMG!
Leaving the federal courthouse in Topeka in the rain, Cornwell quipped, “I should have brought my K-State umbrella.”
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I have dealt with Carl on a few occasions. He has one of those totally badass license plates that says "NOTGLTY" or something elite like that.
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warm up the retirement party for Lew.
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I'm all about the K-State Umbrella of Justice.
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:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Would be funny if it was the Gorilla drummer from Showbiz Pizza
wow, great post
ditto
Sugar Dick is fast becoming a highly valued member of the board. Plus, his name gives people an excuse to type "Sugar Dick" over and over.
Pete and I play softball with a gentleman named Sugar Dick Daddy. He goes by Sugar D sometimes. Wonder if it is that same dude?
Where do you play softball? I need to meet this guy and evaluate whether he's worthy of such a prestigious nickname. . . unless it is the same guy then I'll just look like a crazy person interrogating myself.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi106.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm276%2Fjustking81%2FArticles%2F74.jpg&hash=fc365e25556aa82eb0952d40a86a7364f49ec3bb)
I can't believe kids were scared of this guy! :lol:
Me when my mom put me on stage next to BillyBob --> :bawl:
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Leaving the federal courthouse in Topeka in the rain, Cornwell quipped, “I should have brought my K-State umbrella.”
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what does that even mean? also, loved this one:
“Rodney Jones resigns, an investigation starts and who sets that in motion? My client,” Cornwell said after the sentencing hearing. “And I get (blank) for that.”
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Leaving the federal courthouse in Topeka in the rain, Cornwell quipped, “I should have brought my K-State umbrella.”
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what does that even mean?
eff KU, Go K-State :dunno:
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Leaving the federal courthouse in Topeka in the rain, Cornwell quipped, “I should have brought my K-State umbrella.”
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
what does that even mean?
shazbot! KU, Go K-State :dunno:
yeah. it just sorta had a "you're a terrible softball player, jack" kind of vibe. like he was just so pissed he tried to say something really mean and it just comes across as petty (but hilarious to me and you).
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Leaving the federal courthouse in Topeka in the rain, Cornwell quipped, “I should have brought my K-State umbrella.”
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
what does that even mean?
shazbot! KU, Go K-State :dunno:
yeah. it just sorta had a "you're a terrible softball player, jack" kind of vibe. like he was just so pissed he tried to say something really mean and it just comes across as petty (but hilarious to me and you).
Yeah, I mean, that's what makes it funny(er)
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He's also saying that K-State is superior because of its Umbrella of Justice. Don't be so literal.
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Maybe someone could get BillyBob1 to post his story over here. Love that the "source" is named BillyBob. Would be funny if it was the Gorilla drummer from Showbiz Pizza
But... but.... but... Billy Bob wasn't the drummer!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3607%2F3499521466_262ea82ecc.jpg&hash=c12bc44dc232eed68a9c6ee002111e647f6a2329)
He was the lead vocalist (along with Looney Bird) and guitar player. Regardless, Showbiz Pizza references are funny.
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Please...if you don't know that the gorilla is Fats Geronimo, then you don't know Showbiz Pizza (Rock-a-Fire Explosion).
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Please...if you don't know that the gorilla is Fats Geronimo, then you don't know Showbiz Pizza (Rock-a-Fire Explosion).
OMG!!1 :lol: :lol: :lol: :love:
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I would really love to seen Ben post on this thread. I mean, I would literally pay for that entertainment.
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http://www.kansascity.com/2010/04/22/1896851_ku-ticket-scandal-involves-big.html?storylink=omni_popular
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http://www.kansascity.com/2010/04/22/1896851_ku-ticket-scandal-involves-big.html?storylink=omni_popular
Potential crimes his client reportedly helped disclose, Cornwell said, included tax evasion, money laundering, theft and fraud.
:surprised:
Freeman built a seven-bedroom house that he eventually sold to KU basketball coach Bill Self.
“My wife and I were looking to build in that area, and this house became available,” Self said Thursday. “It was a house he had started to build, but then decided to sell before it was completed. So we bought the house unfinished, and our attorney and his handled all the paperwork.”
Right Bill, blame the lawyers.
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I'm no Bill Self fan, but he gets paid enough that he would not need the relative chump change in the portion people would suspect he received. If there's "hundreds of thousands of dollars" involved, you know there's a lot of outstretched hands in that sewer called Lawrence, so he'd only get a small portion if he was involved. I don't think he'd risk it. Ditto on Lew--he just legally skimmed $4.9 million from those doofuses in Lawrence, why risk being the subject of a federal criminal investigation for a few thousand?
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I'm no Bill Self fan, but he gets paid enough that he would not need the relative chump change in the portion people would suspect he received. If there's "hundreds of thousands of dollars" involved, you know there's a lot of outstretched hands in that sewer called Lawrence, so he'd only get a small portion if he was involved. I don't think he'd risk it. Ditto on Lew--he just legally skimmed $4.9 million from those doofuses in Lawrence, why risk being the subject of a federal criminal investigation for a few thousand?
A 7 bedroom house in whatever area Self lives in would not be considered chump change, even when earning a $3M salary.
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I'm no Bill Self fan, but he gets paid enough that he would not need the relative chump change in the portion people would suspect he received. If there's "hundreds of thousands of dollars" involved, you know there's a lot of outstretched hands in that sewer called Lawrence, so he'd only get a small portion if he was involved. I don't think he'd risk it. Ditto on Lew--he just legally skimmed $4.9 million from those doofuses in Lawrence, why risk being the subject of a federal criminal investigation for a few thousand?
A 7 bedroom house in whatever area Self lives in would not be considered chump change, even when earning a $3M salary.
Nicest house in Lawrence from what I hear, but appraises for less than his annual salary, much less salary + incentives+ outside contracts. I stand by my observation, but would absolutely love to be wrong.
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I'm no Bill Self fan, but he gets paid enough that he would not need the relative chump change in the portion people would suspect he received. If there's "hundreds of thousands of dollars" involved, you know there's a lot of outstretched hands in that sewer called Lawrence, so he'd only get a small portion if he was involved. I don't think he'd risk it. Ditto on Lew--he just legally skimmed $4.9 million from those doofuses in Lawrence, why risk being the subject of a federal criminal investigation for a few thousand?
A 7 bedroom house in whatever area Self lives in would not be considered chump change, even when earning a $3M salary.
Nicest house in Lawrence from what I hear, but appraises for less than his annual salary, much less salary + incentives+ outside contracts. I stand by my observation, but would absolutely love to be wrong.
I am going to go ahead and assume we are talking about a $1M+ house. Even if the guy makes $10M a year, he is still going to think that $1M is a pretty big deal.
People with money don't get, and keep, money by thinking the way you describe. He isn't Pacman Jones.
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Look at the big picture, and answer the question of whether this will affect giving to the ku athletic dept. Does this officially kill the "Gridiron Club", even though it's a basketball scandal? I think this is another avenue for the football program to get screwed because of the actions of the basketball program. The bad part is that I doubt it will be much more of a speed bump on continuing financial misconduct in the basketball program (unless they manage to snag Doug Compton), and they will continue to move ahead. Thoughts?
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As mentioned on the other board, no one has given any indication as to where the money has gone. This makes me think that this will get ugly enough for KU that it won't be considered a speed bump. If it was simply the NCAA investigating, I would agree. However, since the FBI is involved, I am thinking that there is enough indication of something illegal taking place that KU could be in some troub.
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Interesting that this dirt bag's business partner was Morningstar....probably just ANOTHER coincidence.
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Somewhere in NC, Dax is smiling.
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wow. color me shocked that $elf apparently gave up his house in fall creek farms for one next door to doug compton on a street (bauer brook ct) that i'm pretty sure comptom owned all the land to at one time and has started to develop over the past five years. a couple of other interesting names on that street too.
http://www2.ljworld.com/propertyvalues/?q=Bill+Self
http://www2.ljworld.com/propertyvalues/?q=bauer+brook+ct
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wow. color me shocked that $elf apparently gave up his house in fall creek farms for one next door to doug compton on a street (bauer brook ct) that i'm pretty sure comptom owned all the land to at one time and has started to develop over the past five years. a couple of other interesting names on that street too.
http://www2.ljworld.com/propertyvalues/?q=Bill+Self
http://www2.ljworld.com/propertyvalues/?q=bauer+brook+ct
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Am I reading this right? Is this stating that Bill owns 4 houses that are worth $1M+ each?
Wow. Something is def going on out there.
Link this with that story in the KC start stating that Freeman deeded a home in Basehor directly to the dude that just resigned, and it sounds like there is some crazy stuff happening out there.
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:bwpopcorn:
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“This whole thing is bull----,” Cornwell said, adding that his client got “no credit for stopping business as usual at KU.”
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This Freeman guy is sounding very awesome.
RD, is the guy from JC with the same last of that girl we went to school with related to her? Remember that time(s) I nailed her? LOL
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This Freeman guy is sounding very awesome.
RD, is the guy from JC with the same last of that girl we went to school with related to her? Remember that time(s) I nailed her? LOL
dunno. first thing i thought of too. heard she's bulemic or something now. hopefully it eventually kills her.
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BillyBob1 shares more that KU fans mostly don't want to hear in the comment section of the story in the LJWorld. The slam on the World is a bit unfair as its story had yet to be updated with the attorney's outburst.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/apr/22/lawrence-developer-david-freeman-gets-18-month-pri/
"Why are we getting our Lawrence news from the KC Star? The LJWorld is a joke. How about some investigative journalism? Did Rodney really buy a $1+ million property on his measly salary from KU? How about getting a list of the season ticket holders from KU and comparing that list to people who actually received tickets? These season tickets were not stolen, they were diverted. How? Word is that there is over $3 million involved. Freeman claims he actually saw tickets being sent to a scalper. Who did he see?
Quit picking on Lew and Compton and let's see the LJWorld actually do some work."
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This Freeman guy is sounding very awesome.
RD, is the guy from JC with the same last of that girl we went to school with related to her? Remember that time(s) I nailed her? LOL
dunno. first thing i thought of too. heard she's bulemic or something now. hopefully it eventually kills her.
I'm already looking forward to that "RIP" thread, should be amazing. Just a thought here, odds that Limestone didn't play an important role in the destruction of her low-self-esteem/bulimia? Would NOT be the first time.
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BillyBob1 shares more that KU fans mostly don't want to hear in the comment section of the story in the LJWorld. The slam on the World is a bit unfair as its story had yet to be updated with the attorney's outburst.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/apr/22/lawrence-developer-david-freeman-gets-18-month-pri/
"Why are we getting our Lawrence news from the KC Star? The LJWorld is a joke. How about some investigative journalism? Did Rodney really buy a $1+ million property on his measly salary from KU? How about getting a list of the season ticket holders from KU and comparing that list to people who actually received tickets? These season tickets were not stolen, they were diverted. How? Word is that there is over $3 million involved. Freeman claims he actually saw tickets being sent to a scalper. Who did he see?
Quit picking on Lew and Compton and let's see the LJWorld actually do some work."
BillyBob1 is awesome.
Like Dax has eluded to, I have heard sketchy rumors/personal aco$!#*s from Williams-fund types and other seemingly connected Lawrence folks for years about Compton's involvement with the KU athletic department.
The KU athletic department's level of involvement with shady operators is simply astounding.
Kent McCarthy, adjunct professor in the graduate business school is a big booster, and also runs Jayhawk Capital in JoCo.... a private equity fund. He would routinely bring in / conference call David Whittig (Weststar scandal) and Andrew Wiederhorn (Wilshire REIT scandal) to speak to the his portfolio management students (http://www.business.ku.edu/facultyresearchcenter-apmpeople) as these were close business relationships of his. One of the best guests was Craighill Redwine, a private equity fund manager, who was at the time the father-in-law of Quinn Snyder while Quinn was coaching at Mizzou....and Ol' Quinner would stay at Doug Compton's house when Mizzou would come to KU.....and as the story go those fellas had very similar interests :fatty:
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Would've been much cooler if it had been a seven-story house :users:
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Would've been much cooler if it had been a seven-story house :users:
Agreed, escalators or elevators? I'd probably go wtih both
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Would've been much cooler if it had been a seventeen-story house :users:
FYP. :driving:
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Leaving the federal courthouse in Topeka in the rain, Cornwell quipped, “I should have brought my K-State umbrella.”
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what does that even mean? also, loved this one:
i think he's saying the state of kansas justice dept is filled with ku alums/homers
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Leaving the federal courthouse in Topeka in the rain, Cornwell quipped, “I should have brought my K-State umbrella.”
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what does that even mean? also, loved this one:
i think he's saying the state of kansas justice dept is filled with ku alums/homers
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/04/judge_enjoys_courtside_company/?city_local (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/04/judge_enjoys_courtside_company/?city_local)
http://www2.kusports.com/photos/2008/mar/13/142529/ (http://www2.kusports.com/photos/2008/mar/13/142529/)
http://www2.kusports.com/photos/galleries/2009/mar/01/ku-vs-missouri/55692/ (http://www2.kusports.com/photos/galleries/2009/mar/01/ku-vs-missouri/55692/)
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Leaving the federal courthouse in Topeka in the rain, Cornwell quipped, “I should have brought my K-State umbrella.”
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what does that even mean? also, loved this one:
i think he's saying the state of kansas justice dept is filled with ku alums/homers
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/04/judge_enjoys_courtside_company/?city_local (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/04/judge_enjoys_courtside_company/?city_local)
http://www2.kusports.com/photos/2008/mar/13/142529/ (http://www2.kusports.com/photos/2008/mar/13/142529/)
http://www2.kusports.com/photos/galleries/2009/mar/01/ku-vs-missouri/55692/ (http://www2.kusports.com/photos/galleries/2009/mar/01/ku-vs-missouri/55692/)
Great Find....
Interesting info pertaining to this issue as well
Lungstrum, a member of the Williams Fund, holds four season tickets.
:surprised:
edit - doesn't use them as he sits with Lew. Wonder if his tix are next ol' Roys?
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I'm concerned for my KU friends that this scandal may deter their coaches' ability to attract pornstars to games.
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I'm glad he would recuse himself from hearing any case involving his bud Lew or the ku athletic dept.
Hilarious pic of Drunkenstar fist-bumping.
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FYI on the judge that sentenced these scumbags:
http://judgepedia.org/index.php/Richard_D._Rogers
KSU grad
Former KSU faculty member
Manhattan City Commission
Mayor of Manhattan
etc., etc...
:fatty:
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Leaving the federal courthouse in Topeka in the rain, Cornwell quipped, “I should have brought my K-State umbrella.”
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what does that even mean? also, loved this one:
i think he's saying the state of kansas justice dept is filled with ku alums/homers
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/04/judge_enjoys_courtside_company/?city_local (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/04/judge_enjoys_courtside_company/?city_local)
http://www2.kusports.com/photos/2008/mar/13/142529/ (http://www2.kusports.com/photos/2008/mar/13/142529/)
http://www2.kusports.com/photos/galleries/2009/mar/01/ku-vs-missouri/55692/ (http://www2.kusports.com/photos/galleries/2009/mar/01/ku-vs-missouri/55692/)
Great Find....
Interesting info pertaining to this issue as well
Lungstrum, a member of the Williams Fund, holds four season tickets.
:surprised:
edit - doesn't use them as he sits with Lew. Wonder if his tix are next ol' Roys?
Lungstrum is a massive KU fan. He has a big house right across the street from Campus on the west side, right next door to the Delta Chi house (same street as the Chi-O fountain). His son, Justin (good dude), went to Yale for undergrad (just like his old man) and KU for law school (just like his old man). The entire family are massive KU fans. Massive. I'd say that they are good people, from my interactions with them, but definitely shouldn't be involved in making crucial decisions that would impact the welfare of KU....far, far to biased to remain impartial.
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He busted me sleeping in Contracts I.
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He busted me sleeping in Contracts I.
LOLLERs. Tell him to get a judgship in a real jurisdiction.
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http://www.kansascity.com/2010/04/30/1915441/two-more-ku-athletic-staffers.html
The University of Kansas athletic department announced two more resignations Friday of staff members with deep ties to the ticket office.
In an e-mail to boosters, the department said that Brandon Simmons, assistant athletics director for sales and marketing, and Jason Jeffries, assistant director of ticket operations, had resigned.
Jim Marchiony, KU’s associate athletic director for external relations, declined to discuss the resignations or say whether they were related to an investigation of ticket office operations and the Williams Educational Fund that was ordered by the university’s chancellor.
The Williams Fund is the primary vehicle that Jayhawk boosters use to contribute to the athletic department and acquire game tickets.
Neither Simmons nor Jeffries has a listed telephone number, and they could not be reached for comment.
Last week, an Olathe lawyer said that his client sparked a federal criminal investigation into whether someone had improperly taken men’s basketball tickets from the university and sold them illegally.
The federal inquiry appears to be focused on whether NCAA Tournament tickets, and perhaps season-ticket packages, were taken illegally from the university — possibly for years — and sold through outside channels.
The resignations of Simmons and Jeffries joined those last month of former Williams Fund director Rodney Jones and his boss, Ben Kirtland, the head of fund raising for Kansas Athletics Inc. and the associate athletic director for development.
Simmons had served as an assistant director in the department’s ticket office, joining Kansas Athletics in May 2005 and working in the ticket office until becoming the assistant athletics director of sales and marketing in December, according to the announcement.
Jeffries joined the ticket office staff in July 2003 and became assistant director of ticket operations in early 2004.
Jones was director of the ticket office before becoming the assistant athletic director in charge of the Williams Fund in 2004. Kirtland was the highest-ranking official working directly with the Williams Fund.
According to KU’s website, 4,200 Williams Fund members contribute million of dollars each year to finance all athletic scholarships for about 550 university athletes.
Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/04/30/1915441/two-more-ku-athletic-staffers.html#ixzz0msYuQ1RX
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Once again where the real meat to this will come into play is just where did the money end up?? Do these guys keep it for themselves, or did it matriculate to the players. Angst laden days for ku athletics . . . but hey, everybody does it right??
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Once again where the real meat to this will come into play is just where did the money end up?? Do these guys keep it for themselves, or did it matriculate to the players.
Can not wait until this question is answered.
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Once again where the real meat to this will come into play is just where did the money end up?? Do these guys keep it for themselves, or did it matriculate to the players. Angst laden days for ku athletics . . . but hey, everybody does it right??
It's worth it for a Nat'l Champship isn't it? Who does the NCAA give the NC to in '08 if both teams in the NC game voids wins?
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Once again where the real meat to this will come into play is just where did the money end up?? Do these guys keep it for themselves, or did it matriculate to the players. Angst laden days for ku athletics . . . but hey, everybody does it right??
Meh.
:zzz:
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Once again where the real meat to this will come into play is just where did the money end up?? Do these guys keep it for themselves, or did it matriculate to the players. Angst laden days for ku athletics . . . but hey, everybody does it right??
Meh.
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Dude does this ever bother you? I mean seriously, there is banter between fans but this is going to a new level. Do you consider yourself a moral person? If you do how can you support your AD? I mean you have to back your team to an extent, but when does that stop? How much does KU have to do wrong before the fans, people like you, stop and say this isn't worth winning?
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Once again where the real meat to this will come into play is just where did the money end up?? Do these guys keep it for themselves, or did it matriculate to the players. Angst laden days for ku athletics . . . but hey, everybody does it right??
Meh.
:zzz:
Dude does this ever bother you? I mean seriously, there is banter between fans but this is going to a new level. Do you consider yourself a moral person? If you do how can you support your AD? I mean you have to back your team to an extent, but when does that stop? How much does KU have to do wrong before the fans, people like you, stop and say this isn't worth winning?
Unless the money did find it's way to the players, this doesn't have anything to do with winning.
This could be only about the greed of 5 or 6 employees and the incompetence of their boss for not catching them.
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What about their parents? That seems likely considering they all up and move to Lowrentz as soon as their sons start playing b-ball there. I'm assuming it's illegal to give it to them, right?
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What about their parents? That seems likely considering they all up and move to Lowrentz as soon as their sons start playing b-ball there. I'm assuming it's illegal to give it to them, right?
IMO, that is the same thing as it finding it's way to the players.
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What about their parents? That seems likely considering they all up and move to Lowrentz as soon as their sons start playing b-ball there. I'm assuming it's illegal to give it to them, right?
IMO, that is the same thing as it finding it's way to the players.
Excellent. If any investigators are reading this board, please check the Mama and Papa Aldrich's bank account. Should be exceptionally high considering their lack of education/teeth. TIA.
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What about their parents? That seems likely considering they all up and move to Lowrentz as soon as their sons start playing b-ball there. I'm assuming it's illegal to give it to them, right?
IMO, that is the same thing as it finding it's way to the players.
Excellent. If any investigators are reading this board, please check the Mama and Papa Aldrich's bank account. Should be exceptionally high considering their lack of education/teeth. TIA.
Likely that money flows from multiple sources in all college towns. I wouldn't hold my breath about every single violation coming to light in the ticket case.
Cole's folks may be getting their money from a completely unrelated violation.
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What about their parents? That seems likely considering they all up and move to Lowrentz as soon as their sons start playing b-ball there. I'm assuming it's illegal to give it to them, right?
IMO, that is the same thing as it finding it's way to the players.
Excellent. If any investigators are reading this board, please check the Mama and Papa Aldrich's bank account. Should be exceptionally high considering their lack of education/teeth. TIA.
Likely that money flows from multiple sources in all college towns. I wouldn't hold my breath about every single violation coming to light in the ticket case.
Cole's folks may be getting their money from a completely unrelated violation.
I'm going to remain hopelessly optimistic. Consider my breath held until further notice.
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I'm going to remain hopelessly optimistic. Consider my breath held until further notice.
you seem extraordinarily stupid.
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I'm going to remain hopelessly optimistic. Consider my breath held until further notice.
you seem extraordinarily stupid.
just heard that you are riddled with sarcasm. so maybe you're just ordinarily stupid.
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I'm going to remain hopelessly optimistic. Consider my breath held until further notice.
you seem extraordinarily stupid.
just heard that you are riddled with sarcasm. so maybe you're just ordinarily stupid.
consider your dumbass sarcasmed.
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Yeah, I've noticed a theme on this site. If you can't contribute to the threads with super insidery sources or HSIQ, then just say pessimistic and/or sarcastic things. I chose the latter. So consider everything I say to be sarcastic until further notice aka my breath NOT being held.
Edit: Another group that offer contributions to this site are people who are really good with photoshop and/or making videos. I could not make it in this group either.
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ms paint
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poster intimidate.
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Yeah, I've noticed a theme on this site. If you can't contribute to the threads with super insidery sources or HSIQ, then just say pessimistic and/or sarcastic things. I chose the latter. So consider everything I say to be sarcastic until further notice aka my breath NOT being held.
Edit: Another group that offer contributions to this site are people who are really good with photoshop and/or making videos. I could not make it in this group either.
dear stevesie60,
what group am I in?
your hero,
steve dave
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steve dave belongs in the group of really funny posters who are valuable even though they are really not worth that much for some reason we still love them group
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ooh, oooh, oooooh. do me, do me. :excited:
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Has anyone stopped to consider that maybe the money that Rodney Jones and others were making from selling KU tickets on the black market was going towards training al Qaeda terrorists, specifically those that were in on the 9/11 inside job?
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ooh, oooh, oooooh. do me, do me. :excited:
gross dude I ain't gay
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ooh, oooh, oooooh. do me, do me. :excited:
gross dude I ain't gay
BOOM
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Has anyone stopped to consider that maybe the money that Rodney Jones and others were making from selling KU tickets on the black market was going towards training al Qaeda terrorists, specifically those that were in on the 9/11 inside job?
Even your attempts at humor/sarcasm are too weighted down by lameness to float.
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Yeah, I've noticed a theme on this site. If you can't contribute to the threads with super insidery sources or HSIQ, then just say pessimistic and/or sarcastic things. I chose the latter. So consider everything I say to be sarcastic until further notice aka my breath NOT being held.
Edit: Another group that offer contributions to this site are people who are really good with photoshop and/or making videos. I could not make it in this group either.
dear stevesie60,
what group am I in?
your hero,
steve dave
Dear steve dave,
Anyone with "Administrator" status is, by default, in the group with HSIQ. However, with your demonstration of SIQ, you have earned this right.
Stevesie
Note: This post is NOT sarcastic
ooh, oooh, oooooh. do me, do me. :excited:
Dear Rick Daris,
You and Pissclams are the only sarcastic/pessimistic types that I consider elite. I admire you in a way that words can not express. Please teach me your ways.
Stevesie
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Has anyone stopped to consider that maybe the money that Rodney Jones and others were making from selling KU tickets on the black market was going towards training al Qaeda terrorists, specifically those that were in on the 9/11 inside job?
Even your attempts at humor/sarcasm are too weighted down by lameness to float.
:bawl:
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Ben how many have been forced out or fired at ku now due to all of this . . . 6-7-8??
How can this possibly look good for any athletic director??
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ooh, oooh, oooooh. do me, do me. :excited:
http://www.youtube.com/v/CtEVy_zjr9Y&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&border=1
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posting isn't obligatory. just go to california, or the fball board, if you've got nothing.
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Has anyone stopped to consider that maybe the money that Rodney Jones and others were making from selling KU tickets on the black market was going towards training al Qaeda terrorists, specifically those that were in on the 9/11 inside job?
Even your attempts at humor/sarcasm are too weighted down by lameness to float.
:bawl:
See what I mean?
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Has anyone stopped to consider that maybe the money that Rodney Jones and others were making from selling KU tickets on the black market was going towards training al Qaeda terrorists, specifically those that were in on the 9/11 inside job?
Even your attempts at humor/sarcasm are too weighted down by lameness to float.
:bawl:
See what I mean?
Yet you continue to bite like Mike Tyson in a boxing ring with Holyfield.
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Has anyone stopped to consider that maybe the money that Rodney Jones and others were making from selling KU tickets on the black market was going towards training al Qaeda terrorists, specifically those that were in on the 9/11 inside job?
Even your attempts at humor/sarcasm are too weighted down by lameness to float.
:bawl:
See what I mean?
Yet you continue to bite like Mike Tyson in a boxing ring with Holyfield.
so once?
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Has anyone stopped to consider that maybe the money that Rodney Jones and others were making from selling KU tickets on the black market was going towards training al Qaeda terrorists, specifically those that were in on the 9/11 inside job?
Even your attempts at humor/sarcasm are too weighted down by lameness to float.
:bawl:
See what I mean?
Yet you continue to bite like Mike Tyson in a boxing ring with Holyfield.
I saw that fight and I don't even know what this means. :dunno:
Was Holyfield blind to some financial monkey business that the rest of the world suspected?
Was Mike an FBI agent?
Seriously lost in this comparison. Going no where.
Recommend redirection.
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Has anyone stopped to consider that maybe the money that Rodney Jones and others were making from selling KU tickets on the black market was going towards training al Qaeda terrorists, specifically those that were in on the 9/11 inside job?
Even your attempts at humor/sarcasm are too weighted down by lameness to float.
:bawl:
See what I mean?
Yet you continue to bite like Mike Tyson in a boxing ring with Holyfield.
I saw that fight and I don't even know what this means. :dunno:
Was Holyfield blind to some financial monkey business that the rest of the world suspected?
Was Mike an FBI agent?
Seriously lost in this comparison. Going no where.
Recommend redirection.
Am I living in an alternate universe from the rest of you?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.espncdn.com%2Fphoto%2F2008%2F0620%2Fbox_a_holyfield1_sq_600.jpg&hash=f8f9b0000dd5c5e6ea9567d1d62fd2e021cc65fc)
:confused:
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Ben, remember on the other board when we had that long u2u conversation about your self esteem issues and need to feel accepted?
I think it's time to re-read that.
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Ben, remember on the other board when we had that long u2u conversation about your self esteem issues and need to feel accepted?
I think it's time to re-read that.
Recap?
If it's long and really interesting, put it on the blog.
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Ben, remember on the other board when we had that long u2u conversation about your self esteem issues and need to feel accepted?
I think it's time to re-read that.
Classic defense mechanism, often used in desperate situations when powerespect nation is getting pwned like a $2 whore. This case study just gets more intriguing by the day.
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Ben, remember on the other board when we had that long u2u conversation about your self esteem issues and need to feel accepted?
I think it's time to re-read that.
Recap?
If it's long and really interesting, put it on the blog.
Ben said he'd deny he said any of it if I brought it up "on The Board"
I won't post a lot, he got kind of sad, mentioned the larger girl he dated. It was more me helping him understand why he needs so much validation. Check your u2u for more, that's all I want in public.
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Ben, remember on the other board when we had that long u2u conversation about your self esteem issues and need to feel accepted?
I think it's time to re-read that.
Recap?
If it's long and really interesting, put it on the blog.
Ben said he'd deny he said any of it if I brought it up "on The Board"
I won't post a lot, he got kind of sad, mentioned the larger girl he dated. It was more me helping him understand why he needs so much validation. Check your u2u for more, that's all I want in public.
Never happened, and for the record, I never dated a "larger" girl. The power of myth is quite an astonishing thing.
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How many times have you said "haters" and "classic defense mechanism " on this board vs. the number of times you failed to give your opinion about the UK AD right now? Would you use the term "in shambles"?
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How many times have you said "haters" and "classic defense mechanism " on this board vs. the number of times you failed to give your opinion about the UK AD right now? Would you use the term "in shambles"?
The KUAD just signed an $86 million deal with IMG, and they just completed $55 million in renovations to and around AFH. The basketball team went 33-3, the men's track team is top 25, and the baseball team is looking at another NCAA tournament bid. I realize that you guys are just hoping beyond hope that the sh*t goes down, but I don't see much coming out of this whole ticket scandal.
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How many times have you said "haters" and "classic defense mechanism " on this board vs. the number of times you failed to give your opinion about the UK AD right now? Would you use the term "in shambles"?
The KUAD just signed an $86 million deal with IMG, and they just completed $55 million in renovations to and around AFH. The basketball team went 33-3, the men's track team is top 25, and the baseball team is looking at another NCAA tournament bid. I realize that you guys are just hoping beyond hope that the sh*t goes down, but I don't see much coming out of this whole ticket scandal.
Like, no one resigning or anything? I mean, much less MULTIPLE people resigning. I'd just be a hater for thinking that would ever happen.
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you failed to give your opinion about the UK AD right now? Would you use the term "in shambles"?
i happen to know bmw very well in real life, and although i don't think he'd like this spread about in public, i don't think i'm violating any confidences by relating a little story that illustrates what ol' bmw really thinks of the ku ad. mods, if i am violating a confidence, please delete, move to world forum and place on a blog.
so, bmw & i were talking about the ku ad, and i asked him "beems, what are those guys like? i mean, what are they really like?", and beemsey told me "sys, they're a bunch of sugar dicks". that was the first i'd heard of sugar dicks, so i asked "what do you mean?". bmw pulled out a chilidog (he always carries one), wrapped it in a donut and picked up a sugar shaker (we were at an all night waffle place). he shook sugar all up and down that chilidog. i mean really poured it on. then he looked up at me and said "get the picture?", and winked.
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Ben doesn't want me talking about it so the matter is closed. And for the record, Ben does NOT constantly seek validation fro
a group on anonymous strangers as a means of dealing with self esteem. Okay?
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you failed to give your opinion about the UK AD right now? Would you use the term "in shambles"?
i happen to know bmw very well in real life, and although i don't think he'd like this spread about in public, i don't think i'm violating any confidences by relating a little story that illustrates what ol' bmw really thinks of the ku ad. mods, if i am violating a confidence, please delete, move to world forum and place on a blog.
so, bmw & i were talking about the ku ad, and i asked him "beems, what are those guys like? i mean, what are they really like?", and beemsey told me "sys, they're a bunch of sugar dicks". that was the first i'd heard of sugar dicks, so i asked "what do you mean?". bmw pulled out a chilidog (he always carries one), wrapped it in a donut and picked up a sugar shaker (we were at an all night waffle place). he shook sugar all up and down that chilidog. i mean really poured it on. then he looked up at me and said "get the picture?", and winked.
I'm reading this post over and over and laughing every time.
Note: not sarcasm
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you failed to give your opinion about the UK AD right now? Would you use the term "in shambles"?
i happen to know bmw very well in real life, and although i don't think he'd like this spread about in public, i don't think i'm violating any confidences by relating a little story that illustrates what ol' bmw really thinks of the ku ad. mods, if i am violating a confidence, please delete, move to world forum and place on a blog.
so, bmw & i were talking about the ku ad, and i asked him "beems, what are those guys like? i mean, what are they really like?", and beemsey told me "sys, they're a bunch of sugar dicks". that was the first i'd heard of sugar dicks, so i asked "what do you mean?". bmw pulled out a chilidog (he always carries one), wrapped it in a donut and picked up a sugar shaker (we were at an all night waffle place). he shook sugar all up and down that chilidog. i mean really poured it on. then he looked up at me and said "get the picture?", and winked.
at first I was :love:
Then I re-read. This is terrible, do better next time. Something more graphic, or funny, or mildly amusing.
TIA,
Sugar Dick
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sys is extremely funny :surprised:
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This is terrible, do better next time.
like the waitresses say at tubby's, "it's your move, sugar dick. make it a good one."
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ooh, oooh, oooooh. do me, do me. :excited:
gross dude I ain't gay
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you failed to give your opinion about the UK AD right now? Would you use the term "in shambles"?
i happen to know bmw very well in real life, and although i don't think he'd like this spread about in public, i don't think i'm violating any confidences by relating a little story that illustrates what ol' bmw really thinks of the ku ad. mods, if i am violating a confidence, please delete, move to world forum and place on a blog.
so, bmw & i were talking about the ku ad, and i asked him "beems, what are those guys like? i mean, what are they really like?", and beemsey told me "sys, they're a bunch of sugar dicks". that was the first i'd heard of sugar dicks, so i asked "what do you mean?". bmw pulled out a chilidog (he always carries one), wrapped it in a donut and picked up a sugar shaker (we were at an all night waffle place). he shook sugar all up and down that chilidog. i mean really poured it on. then he looked up at me and said "get the picture?", and winked.
i love that old sugar dick story. we all have one and it's always great to share.
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This is terrible, do better next time.
like the waitresses say at tubby's, "it's your move, sugar dick. make it a good one."
I'm thinking of focusing my efforts in the recruiting threads. Coo? :gocho:
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ooh, oooh, oooooh. do me, do me. :excited:
gross dude I ain't gay
Succcccccccccccck Cocccccccccccck Jayyyyyyyyyyhawkkkkkkkkkkkk Gayyyyyyyyyy Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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You are way too earnest for this
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42, remember that us classy, K-State fans would never say something of that nature.
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KSU ranked ahead of ku in Men's Track as well.
http://www.ustfccca.org/assets/rankings/div1/2010-otf/NCAAD1_2010_outWk5_TF_NationalRankingsTop25.pdf
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KSU ranked ahead of ku in Men's Track as well.
Thank gawd, because that track smack really left a mark.
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KSU ranked ahead of ku in Men's Track as well.
Thank gawd, because that track smack really left a mark.
esp coming from a non-stand-alone track facility school.
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KSU ranked ahead of ku in Men's Track as well.
Thank gawd, because that track smack really left a mark.
Agreed. I was concerned that there may have been a lone sport at ku that had a better season than KSU. Put my mind at ease.
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What was K-State's record last season against KU in men's basketball? How many Big 12 titles has K-State won so far this year? TIA.
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didn't ksu win the national big 12 championship ???
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How many Big 12 titles has K-State won so far this year? TIA.
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ooh, oooh, oooooh. do me, do me. :excited:
gross dude I ain't gay
Succcccccccccccck Cocccccccccccck Jayyyyyyyyyyhawkkkkkkkkkkkk Gayyyyyyyyyy Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Succcccccccccccck Cocccccccccccck Jayyyyyyyyyyhawkkkkkkkkkkkk Gayyyyyyyyyy Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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You are way too earnest for this
:runaway:
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What was K-State's record last season against KU in men's basketball? How many Big 12 titles has K-State won so far this year? TIA.
Congrats on your regular season super bowl wins in your sole successful sport. It's garbage athletic programs like ku that have the the conference in danger of being looted by the Big 10.
hey ku, hop on our back, we will try and carry you awhile longer but we have to worry about ourselves at some point. Sure, the E8 run- national love affair, return of Hall of Fame coach BS coupled with the top 20 men's track and baseball teams are making waves but us and Texas needs some help at some point.
TIA
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http://www.kansascity.com/2010/05/17/1952811/former-ku-fundraiser-solicited.html
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http://www.kansascity.com/2010/05/17/1952811/former-ku-fundraiser-solicited.html
Samantha_Ryan wrote on 5/18/2010 8:16:13 AM:
That's nothing compared to what I once did on an airplane for tickets.
I want to make a movie with the team. Luv my Jayhawks!
XOXOX
:lol:
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"...I think it’s deplorable there wasn’t any oversight in place.” - Major Donor Cheryl Womack
:lol:
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The Kellis lucky charm continues. ku languishing in scandal that makes them synonymous with "lack of institutional control" meanwhile we are so squeaky clean, our basketball players mentor little kids for fun.
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The Kellis lucky charm continues. ku languishing in scandal that makes them synonymous with "lack of institutional control" meanwhile we are so squeaky clean, our basketball players mentor little kids for fun.
Our boys are so clean the freaking squeak - uk players are accused of statutory rape, various violent actions and the boosters make the players look like alter boys (penis-rubber excluded as he is in his own category).
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what a crap university.
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Anyone not think that KU will try and impose sanctions on themselves first before the crap really hits the fan? Like take away one football scholarship, one tennis scholarship and take away a travel visit for baseball recruiting.. :nono: (ftp://:nono:)
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Anyone not think that KU will try and impose sanctions on themselves first before the crap really hits the fan? Like take away one football scholarship, one tennis scholarship and take away a travel visit for baseball recruiting.. :nono: (ftp://:nono:)
I've thought they'd try to use their "internal investigation" to frame the violations / theft of donor funds in a less severe light than what the Feds will portray.
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Like take away one football scholarship
I'm sure Gill is praying that this won't happen, literally.
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I don't think the FBI gives a crap about internal or NCAA imposed sanctions.
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I told you guys this was nothing more than Rodney Jones getting rich off of selling tickets on the black market. KU is untouchable.
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:lol: :lol:
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Hmmm, you would think that if this was all about one guy "getting rich" that he wouldn't have had to sell the $500k worth of land back to the bank as mentioned in the story.
Last I checked, a guy who rips off a couple mill can afford such things.
Still no mention of where the money went.
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Anyone not think that KU will try and impose sanctions on themselves first before the crap really hits the fan? Like take away one football scholarship, one tennis scholarship and take away a travel visit for baseball recruiting.. :nono: (ftp://:nono:)
Yikes. ku's garbage baseball team needs all the help they can get.
so does their DII football team I guess. fair is fair.
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I told you guys this was nothing more than Rodney Jones getting rich off of selling tickets on the black market. KU is untouchable.
JFC you are a gigantic douche. You fit in perfectly with that cheating university.
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A den of corruption.
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I told you guys this was nothing more than Rodney Jones getting rich off of selling tickets on the black market. KU is untouchable.
Have you ever heard of the term "vicarious liability"?
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I told you guys this was nothing more than Rodney Jones getting rich off of selling tickets on the black market. KU is untouchable.
Is this why multiple people have resigned since the investigations began? Because only one of them was involved?
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I told you guys this was nothing more than Rodney Jones getting rich off of selling tickets on the black market. KU is untouchable.
Is this why multiple people have resigned since the investigations began? Because only one of them was involved?
Rodney was really the glue of that office. With him gone, many of the others couldn't bear it.
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I told you guys this was nothing more than Rodney Jones getting rich off of selling tickets on the black market. KU is untouchable.
Is this why multiple people have resigned since the investigations began? Because only one of them was involved?
Rodney was really the glue of that office. With him gone, many of the others couldn't bear it.
My source tells me the Garfield cartoons he would email around brought a lot of smiles to a lot of faces, fwiw. Pretty reliable source too.
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I told you guys this was nothing more than Rodney Jones getting rich off of selling tickets on the black market. KU is untouchable.
Is this why multiple people have resigned since the investigations began? Because only one of them was involved?
Rodney was really the glue of that office. With him gone, many of the others couldn't bear it.
My source tells me the Garfield cartoons he would email around brought a lot of smiles to a lot of faces, fwiw. Pretty reliable source too.
Heard the same thing except they were Family Circle cartoons (with penises drawn on the most inappropriate places).
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Roger Morningstar, come on down!
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news;_ylt=Arao6oZoiTaVad5qefST6u45nYcB?slug=ys-kutickets052610
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heh- i just read that. wow. they are screwed. :facepalm:
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:surprised:
Cast of characters
Dana and David Pump
Roger Morningstar
Dave Freeman
Rodney Jones
Charlette Blubaugh
Lew Perkins
Brandon Simmons and Jason Jeffries
Ben Kirtland
Bill Self next?
:surprised:
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Roger Morningstar, come on down!
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news;_ylt=Arao6oZoiTaVad5qefST6u45nYcB?slug=ys-kutickets052610
And the plot thickens!
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Roger Morningstar, come on down!
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news;_ylt=Arao6oZoiTaVad5qefST6u45nYcB?slug=ys-kutickets052610
And the plot thickens!
ku fans response: "we went 33-3 last year, beat you 3 times, we've won 6 big 12 titles"
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Roger Morningstar has coached some of those summer traveling teams, one of which included his son, Brady, who committed to Kansas in 2006. Since Jones, Freeman and Roger Morningstar allegedly engaged in scalping tickets through the Pump brothers in 2002, summer traveling teams financed by the Pump brothers have featured at least nine players who went on to play for the Jayhawks. Among them were nationally recruited players Mario Chalmers, David Padgett, Omar Wilkes, Tyrel Reed, Elijah Johnson, Jeff Withey, Travis Releford and Brady Morningstar.
Chalmers’ father, Ronnie, also coached the Pump brothers’ summer traveling team in Alaska, before being hired as the director of basketball operations at KU in 2005. He eventually resigned that position in 2008. And the sons of head coach Bill Self and assistant coach Danny Manning – Tyler Self and Evan Manning – are both currently listed on the rosters of the Pump brothers’ summer traveling teams. Coach Bill Self and Perkins have attended the Pumps’ annual retreat held for coaches and administrators.
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Freeman said the financial gain started out relatively small in this first run, with the Big 12 tickets yielding around $40,000. Freeman said Jones took a $20,000 cut, while Freeman and Roger Morningstar split $20,000 evenly
:surprised:
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What a garbage embarrassing school.
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i like the part about when the dude got onto the MARTA with $500k cash in his pockets
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i like the part about when the dude got onto the MARTA with $500k cash in his pockets
I did as well . . . I can picture him now, scared $hitless in the ATL on MARTA with $500K cash money in his pockets.
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When Yahoo! Sports approached Roger Morningstar at his Lawrence residence, he said because of ongoing “legal issues” he had been advised by his lawyer not to speak about Freeman. When asked if he was aware Freeman had also spoken to the federal authorities about the Pump brothers’ alleged involvement in scalping tickets from the KU ticket office, Roger Morningstar shrugged.
“That’s old news,” he said. “That’s all old news.”
nothing to see here. just another player's father making thousands of dollars from ku athletics :surprised:
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When Yahoo! Sports approached Roger Morningstar at his Lawrence residence, he said because of ongoing “legal issues” he had been advised by his lawyer not to speak about Freeman. When asked if he was aware Freeman had also spoken to the federal authorities about the Pump brothers’ alleged involvement in scalping tickets from the KU ticket office, Roger Morningstar shrugged.
“That’s old news,” he said. “That’s all old news.”
nothing to see here. just another player's father making thousands of dollars from ku athletics :surprised:
How much of that money flowed back through into the hands of ku basketball players??
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When Yahoo! Sports approached Roger Morningstar at his Lawrence residence, he said because of ongoing “legal issues” he had been advised by his lawyer not to speak about Freeman. When asked if he was aware Freeman had also spoken to the federal authorities about the Pump brothers’ alleged involvement in scalping tickets from the KU ticket office, Roger Morningstar shrugged.
“That’s old news,” he said. “That’s all old news.”
nothing to see here. just another player's father making thousands of dollars from ku athletics :surprised:
How much of that money flowed back through into the hands of ku basketball players??
obviously tons of it :bwpopcorn:
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Oh, but you see, that last part is "lazy journalism" . . . trying to imply that the pumps had some sort of influence on players going to ku. Gosh, why would anyone think that??
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Oh, but you see, that last part is "lazy journalism" . . . trying to imply that the pumps had some sort of influence on players going to ku. Gosh, why would anyone think that??
because Jason King has made a career for himself by continually throwing KU under the bus. :lol:
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Oh, but you see, that last part is "lazy journalism" . . . trying to imply that the pumps had some sort of influence on players going to ku. Gosh, why would anyone think that??
because Jason King has made a career for himself by continually throwing KU under the bus. :lol:
Yeah, who can forget Jason's massive investigation into ku's last probation?? Heck one of his articles about it actually made the front page of the KC Star sports section, dude just dove in with both feet and really sought out information . . . a masterpiece in investigative journalism which started and ended by attending the requisite press conferences and asking Lew to proof read his stories.
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it really is kind of weird that sinks, morningstar, scot pollard and self all own on comptons street. it's just weird. it's not like it's a neighborhood or anything. it's a little street just north of the hyvee on sixth. no more than ten houses. used to only be compton and now these other people all own on there. it's weird. not to mention that self got his place from the felon who ratted everything out.
Did you seriously scoop ljw, kc star and kietz. I mean what terrible, terrible newspapers we have. It is just embarrassing.
wow. color me shocked that $elf apparently gave up his house in fall creek farms for one next door to doug compton on a street (bauer brook ct) that i'm pretty sure comptom owned all the land to at one time and has started to develop over the past five years. a couple of other interesting names on that street too.
http://www2.ljworld.com/propertyvalues/?q=Bill+Self
http://www2.ljworld.com/propertyvalues/?q=bauer+brook+ct
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yeah, i mean nothing fishy there i'm sure. self just randomly decided to give up his million dollar plus house in fall creek farms to purchase a different million dollar plus house (located about a half mile west of his) from a convicted felon who happened to know a ton about the illegal actions going on in the ku athletic dept. and who also happened to be a business part w/ roger morningstar. the same roger morningstar who's son somehow received a scholarship to play ku basketball at the age of 20 after being a very pedestrian highschool player at free state high and also happens to own property on the same little street.
add the fact that it's basically doug comptons street and the fact that all those other people own or owned property there and it just seems almost unreal.
anybody that has spent any time in lawrence and thinks that this stops w/ just jones, freeman and morningstar is dillusional. :chirpchirp:
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Yeah, that dude has the George W, "looking directly into a enormous fan" look on his face. :lol:
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I wonder how this melds with the other little money laundering/funneling operation rumors that are strong with Lawrence and the ku basketball program. The rich white walkons, the girlfriend money, Seff's BFF in Doug Compton etc. etc. etc
Like I've always said, we are so far behind them on this front, we'll never catch up.
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KU SUPER FANS!
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It's Al Bohl's fault.
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Crushed Dove is going to get tossed under the bus again over in Lawrence.
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I'll take Barnstorming Tour end of career payoff for a $1000 Alex.
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Anyone know why the KC Star isnt breaking this story? Seems like it should be them doing the reporting, you know since they are the biggest local newspaper and all.
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It's Al Bohl's fault.
Yeah, 610am did a sufficient job pointing that out and making it the main revelation.
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Anybody got a property owners listing for the Lawrence real estate development at center stage in this little deal?
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Anybody got a property owners listing for the Lawrence real estate development at center stage in this little deal?
yeah, here you go http://www.kuathletics.com/staffdir/kan-staffdir.html (http://www.kuathletics.com/staffdir/kan-staffdir.html)
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Not doing your job!!! =
Lori Williams-- Position:
Associate Athletics Director, Risk Management
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Interesting convo on 810 now with jason king
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Anybody got a property owners listing for the Lawrence real estate development at center stage in this little deal?
yeah, here you go http://www.kuathletics.com/staffdir/kan-staffdir.html (http://www.kuathletics.com/staffdir/kan-staffdir.html)
RD found it...http://www2.ljworld.com/propertyvalues/?q=bauer+brook (http://www2.ljworld.com/propertyvalues/?q=bauer+brook)
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i like the part about when the dude got onto the MARTA with $500k cash in his pockets
Can you imagine icing a half million dollar bro on public transportation?!?! :excited:
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I wonder how this melds with the other little money laundering/funneling operation rumors that are strong with Lawrence and the ku basketball program. The rich white walkons, the girlfriend money, Seff's BFF in Doug Compton etc. etc. etc
Like I've always said, we are so far behind them on this front, we'll never catch up.
remember when Ben said this was just rodney jones make some side money by selling a few tickets!?
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I wonder how this melds with the other little money laundering/funneling operation rumors that are strong with Lawrence and the ku basketball program. The rich white walkons, the girlfriend money, Seff's BFF in Doug Compton etc. etc. etc
Like I've always said, we are so far behind them on this front, we'll never catch up.
remember when Ben said this was just rodney jones make some side money by selling a few tickets!?
Yeah, just a little one man operation.
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Rodney Jones needs to be on Bill Simmons' Reggie Cleveland all-star team.
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At least some uk fans are realizing they are fans of a trash university...
Perkins has gotten this AD to unparalleled heights…but I’m starting to question how we got there.
I feel like I need to take a shower. It’s doesn’t matter who’s involved. It doesn’t matter how far up the chain it goes. Because at this point….the nation is reading about it happening at KANSAS.
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greggdoyelcbs I've been trying to blow up the slimy Pumps for years. Yahoo! just lit the fuse: http://bit.ly/94w1zA Good job @DanWetzel and co.
20 minutes ago via TweetDeck
WhitlockJason http://bit.ly/c6JOIk Jason King, Dan Wetzel and Charles Robinson Doin' The Damn Thang, shaking up the college basketball world.
goodmanonfox Must-read from Yahoo Sports trio of Jason King, Dan Wetzel and Charles Robinson on ticket scalping scheme at Kansas - http://bit.ly/94w1zA
National media enjoying this read
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greggdoyelcbs I've been trying to blow up the slimy Pumps for years. Yahoo! just lit the fuse: http://bit.ly/94w1zA Good job @DanWetzel and co.
20 minutes ago via TweetDeck
WhitlockJason http://bit.ly/c6JOIk Jason King, Dan Wetzel and Charles Robinson Doin' The Damn Thang, shaking up the college basketball world.
goodmanonfox Must-read from Yahoo Sports trio of Jason King, Dan Wetzel and Charles Robinson on ticket scalping scheme at Kansas - http://bit.ly/94w1zA
National media enjoying this read
Lot of haters there. They can eat crap.
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The bigger question here is . . . who at ku will get fired?? The womens soccer coach or the softball coach?? . . . and . . . how many scholarships will womens swimming lose??
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The bigger question here is . . . who at ku will get fired?? The womens soccer coach or the softball coach?? . . . and . . . how many scholarships will womens swimming lose??
"The AD has taken a hard look at itself, left no stone unturned and leveled a stiff self imposed penalty. As of today, we will be postponing the building of the Gridiron Club. We hope this satisfies the FBI, IRS and NCAA and they conclude, as we have, that no further penalty is needed."
Lew Perkins
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Wait until Jones flips.
This is going to be spectacular.
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Well I guess we'll find out at 1:30 Central what underlings are going to get tossed under the bus. Meanwhile Lew and Seff will likely continue to do business with an organization that has been noted for being corrupt and funneling recruits for years.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/may/26/ku-release-investigation-ticket-scandal-130-press-/
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That article had slight implications that the mob may have been buyers of such tickets.
If true, this would be awesome.
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:popcorn:
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Good to see Brady McCullough has been all over this story . . . oh wait . . .
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meh
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2481&t=5976874
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It's all Kevin Keitzman's fault.
Really . . . really . . . the IRS and the FBI are investigating the ku athletic department, now its revealed that hundred of thousands of dollars were exchanging hands, a known corrupt basketball company is involved that has had significant contact with ku administrators and coaches over the years, a former ku player/booster/father of a current ku player is involved . . . LOL, gotta love Tardville.
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until there's a quote by someone that says "...and we gave that money to [insert ku player]" the whole story, while wildly entertaining, probably won't amount to much of anything. Maybe Sweet Lew somehow gets canned, but I doubt it. I do hope we get a them-crackers-be-shakin' moment though.
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until there's a quote by someone that says "...and we gave that money to [insert ku player]" the whole story, while wildly entertaining, probably won't amount to much of anything. Maybe Sweet Lew somehow gets canned, but I doubt it. I do hope we get a them-crackers-be-shakin' moment though.
Even if it did, it wouldn't be a big deal. (see doyel's OU column)
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The bigger question here is . . . who at ku will get fired?? The womens soccer coach or the softball coach?? . . . and . . . how many scholarships will womens swimming lose??
"The AD has taken a hard look at itself, left no stone unturned and leveled a stiff self imposed penalty. As of today, we will be postponing the building of the Gridiron Club. We hope this satisfies the FBI, IRS and NCAA and they conclude, as we have, that no further penalty is needed."
Lew Perkins
Oh, Lew. :lol: Now we know where Ben got the idea of using Jedi mind tricks.
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With the new NCAA it won't be a big deal . . . the NCAA simply doesn't care about this kind of $hit anymore, look at USC, they've been hmming and hawing over that one for close to 3 years now. The NCAA has gone from proactive enforcement to reactive and limp enforcement. The last great witch hunt the NCAA conducted was against Alabama Football, and when some Alabama booster lawyers took the NCAA to court, the NCAA turned tail and ran away from all of this stuff. Now there has to not only be a smoking gun, but bodies lying all over the floor before the NCAA even answers the phone.
That's why I keep saying that we need to ratchet up our cheating exponentially.
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It's all Kevin Keitzman's fault.
Really . . . really . . . the IRS and the FBI are investigating the ku athletic department, now its revealed that hundred of thousands of dollars were exchanging hands, a known corrupt basketball company is involved that has had significant contact with ku administrators and coaches over the years, a former ku player/booster/father of a current ku player is involved . . . LOL, gotta love Tardville.
Time to crank up the cheating. What can I do to help?
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With the new NCAA it won't be a big deal . . . the NCAA simply doesn't care about this kind of $hit anymore, look at USC, they've been hmming and hawing over that one for close to 3 years now. The NCAA has gone from proactive enforcement to reactive and limp enforcement. The last great witch hunt the NCAA conducted was against Alabama Football, and when some Alabama booster lawyers took the NCAA to court, the NCAA turned tail and ran away from all of this stuff. Now there has to not only be a smoking gun, but bodies lying all over the floor before the NCAA even answers the phone.
That's why I keep saying that we need to ratchet up our cheating exponentially.
If there is a take-away from all this, this is it.
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It's all Kevin Keitzman's fault.
Really . . . really . . . the IRS and the FBI are investigating the ku athletic department, now its revealed that hundred of thousands of dollars were exchanging hands, a known corrupt basketball company is involved that has had significant contact with ku administrators and coaches over the years, a former ku player/booster/father of a current ku player is involved . . . LOL, gotta love Tardville.
Time to crank up the cheating. What can I do to help?
Obviously we need to steel some of our own tickets(we being the AD) and sell them to fund DC Assault or the Tropics orgs.
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It's all Kevin Keitzman's fault.
Really . . . really . . . the IRS and the FBI are investigating the ku athletic department, now its revealed that hundred of thousands of dollars were exchanging hands, a known corrupt basketball company is involved that has had significant contact with ku administrators and coaches over the years, a former ku player/booster/father of a current ku player is involved . . . LOL, gotta love Tardville.
Time to crank up the cheating. What can I do to help?
Time to add a ticket-brokering section to goEMAW.com?
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We've got a K-State alum as the Interim President of the NCAA . . . time to cheat our asses off, and you'd think he'd toss a bone and send in the dogs on ku right on the heels of the IRS and the FBI, but he won't.
I personally think we need to be in full on "blindside mode" sending the Vanier and Merrill types into the projects across the country to adopt and funnel . . . adopt and funnel . . .
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FYI "Adopt and Funnel"tm sodj inc. a limited liability corporation
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I think the first step is to absolutely start the Wildcat Invitational back up. Work out some deal where, for that one weekend, KSU subleases all its basketball courts to the City of Manhattan for $1. Just rename it "The Little Apple Jam"
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I can see the smile on Dax's face all the way from KC. :love:
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I think the first step is to absolutely start the Wildcat Invitational back up. Work out some deal where, for that one weekend, KSU subleases all its basketball courts to the City of Manhattan for $1. Just rename it "The Little Apple Jam"
Adopt and Funnel Inc. would be proud to sponsor such an event.
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main points from the phog so far...
keitzman and his desire to bring ku down are part of the problem.
freeman is a punk and a liar/snitch.
everything happened on bohls watch.
ku and their donors are the only victims here. why would they be punished?
if this kind of thing is happening at ku then just think about what is going on everywhere else.
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Second plan, Beasley buys a mansion in manhattan, all basketball players can live there. The garage will be filled with new cars from Briggs. Beasley pretends he gets rent.
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It's all Kevin Keitzman's fault.
Really . . . really . . . the IRS and the FBI are investigating the ku athletic department, now its revealed that hundred of thousands of dollars were exchanging hands, a known corrupt basketball company is involved that has had significant contact with ku administrators and coaches over the years, a former ku player/booster/father of a current ku player is involved . . . LOL, gotta love Tardville.
Time to crank up the cheating. What can I do to help?
Time to add a ticket-brokering section to goEMAW.com?
KU was able to funnel hundreds of thousands of dollars through their scheme, think we can get to a thousand?
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main points from the phog so far...
keitzman and his desire to bring ku down are part of the problem.
freeman is a punk and a liar/snitch.
everything happened on bohls watch.
ku and their donors are the only victims here. why would they be punished?
if this kind of thing is happening at ku then just think about what is going on everywhere else.
Love the ku and its donors are the victim angle . . . that's a new one.
Plus, what do they expect from Keitzman, all 610 does is suck ku's ass, Brady McCullough is probably getting his story on this reviewed by Lew and ku SID right now . . . somebody has got to run with it.
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Second plan, Beasley buys a mansion in manhattan, all basketball players can live there. The garage will be filled with new cars from Briggs. Beasley pretends he gets rent.
:love:
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Memphis has a "house" for its players.
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Memphis has a "house" for its players.
sub part a of plan: have bigger and better house than Memphis.
Sub part b of plan: have house for all players families, ask Reggie bush for info as to market rate as to rent.
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Colbert Hills would make a fine spot . . . the new clubhouse and restaurant would make a fine training table. Prince's house sold yet??
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If Kietzman chooses to make this his story of the year, be sure to ask him why he didn't give K-State's mystery agreements between Snyder, Krause, and Wefald and financial scandals from May 2009 the same treatment.
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If Kietzman chooses to make this his story of the year, be sure to ask him why he didn't give K-State's mystery agreements between Snyder, Krause, and Wefald and financial scandals from May 2009 the same treatment.
there it is!
Pretty sure Kk discussed that incident extensively.
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main points from the phog so far...
keitzman and his desire to bring ku down are part of the problem.
freeman is a punk and a liar/snitch.
everything happened on bohls watch.
ku and their donors are the only victims here. why would they be punished?
if this kind of thing is happening at ku then just think about what is going on everywhere else.
You forgot: Duke cheats (multiple posts talking about irrelevent historic Duke scandles)
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LoL it isn't noon yet and they are terrified of what keitz is going to say.
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ku is releasing the results of its internal investigation of the ticket skimming scandal. Insiders say ku will argue that when you mix whole milk with 2% lowfat milk, it blows up in your face and leaves the ticket accounting system in shreds.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news;_ylt=AtF2YGxIiJe_lS6pBWQ2dMPevbYF?slug=ys-kutickets052610
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Because there was no mystery about those agreements, the only mystery agreement was the deal with Prince. Snyder's LLC was listed by name in his employment contract . . . payments to Krause, Wesier and Snyder's LLC were listed in K-State athletic department financial disclosures. The only issue at hand was the use of an emprise account to make those payments and the timing of those payments to the individual LLC's which is solely a respective LLC vs IRS issue.
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Because there was no mystery about those agreements, the only mystery agreement was the deal with Prince. Snyder's LLC was listed by name in his employment contract . . . payments to Krause, Wesier and Snyder's LLC were listed in K-State athletic department financial disclosures. The only issue at hand was the use of an emprise account to make those payments and the timing of those payments to the individual LLC's which is solely a respective LLC vs IRS issue.
and what did the IRS determine?
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Second plan, Beasley buys a mansion in manhattan, all basketball players can live there. The garage will be filled with new cars from Briggs. Beasley pretends he gets rent.
:love:
He just needs to make sure his name his not on any deeds/titles of said property so when a future athlete wrex it, it is n the athlete's name.
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is it against ncaa rules for fathers of recruits and eventual scholarship holders at a school to have an agreement with an athletic department employee at the same school to profit thousands of dollars by selling university tickets on the black market?
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is it against ncaa rules for fathers of recruits and eventual scholarship holders at a school to have an agreement with an athletic department employee at the same school to profit thousands of dollars by selling university tickets on the black market?
hater
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Because there was no mystery about those agreements, the only mystery agreement was the deal with Prince. Snyder's LLC was listed by name in his employment contract . . . payments to Krause, Wesier and Snyder's LLC were listed in K-State athletic department financial disclosures. The only issue at hand was the use of an emprise account to make those payments and the timing of those payments to the individual LLC's which is solely a respective LLC vs IRS issue.
and what did the IRS determine?
Who knows?? That was an issue between the respective LLC's and the Feds . . . or better stated, the accounting firm that did the study said there MAY be an issue with the IRS for the respective LLC's depending on how the LLC's treated the payments on their books. What people forget is that the study also found that K-State still owed Snyder and/or his LLC a lot of money. The Bull$hit about all of what happened is that Weiser's "letter of understanding" about Weefer's role in athletics and his new employment contract weren't being made public and nobody bothered to file a FOIA request, because everybody likely assumed it was just a regular old employment contract . . . and thus the "letter of understanding", Weiser consulting his own f_cking athletic department, and buyout pieces never saw the light of day until after the fact. Also nobody bothered to go get K-State's IRS disclosure for non profits . . . I forget what form it is, but if they had, they would have seen the payments to Krause and Weiser's LLC's right there in black and white.
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is it against ncaa rules for fathers of recruits and eventual scholarship holders at a school to have an agreement with an athletic department employee at the same school to profit thousands of dollars by selling university tickets on the black market?
hater
Lots of haters in the N-C-hAte-A.
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Foulston Siefkin LLP . . . the firm ku hired. Hmm, lets take a look.
Partners:
Stan Andeel- Partner ku undergrad
James M. Armstrong – Partner ku Undergrad, ku JD
Gary L. Ayers – Partner-Partner ku undegrad, ku JD
Brooke Bennett Aziere – Partner ku JD
Mark A. Biberstein – Partner ku JD
Holly A. Dyer – Partner ku JD
Charles P. Efflandt – Partner ku JD
Jay F. Fowler – Partner ku JD
. . . I think I see a trend here . . .
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lol...i wondered how "independent" this review would be.
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http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=kan&media=181377
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Isn't KU the victim (along with donors) in this scandal? From a general standpoint, I'm trying to grasp why KU would be punished for the actions of a rogue employee(s)?
:surprised:
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http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=kan&media=181377
:surprised:
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Isn't KU the victim (along with donors) in this scandal? From a general standpoint, I'm trying to grasp why KU would be punished for the actions of a rogue employee(s)?
:surprised:
LMAO, every school should use that excuse when rogue employees are funneling money to their athletes. IT'S BULLETPROOF!
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Tom needs to explain to everyone once again why he quit being a Wichita State fan, and became a bandwagon ku fan.
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Tom needs to explain to everyone once again why he quit being a Wichita State fan, and became a bandwagon ku fan.
Was he ever a Maryland or UConn fan? Maybe he goes where Lew goes? Maybe he IS Lew?!
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http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=kan&media=181377
:surprised:
goEMAW chat for this?
Live streaming usually sucks at work for me, so I'm gonna need something. Also will be doing a pre-trial conference by phone simultaneously.
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The new logic on ku boards is that "no one" cares about this except K-State and MU fans.
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Foulston Siefkin LLP . . . the firm ku hired. Hmm, lets take a look.
Partners:
Stan Andeel- Partner ku undergrad
James M. Armstrong – Partner ku Undergrad, ku JD
Gary L. Ayers – Partner-Partner ku undegrad, ku JD
Brooke Bennett Aziere – Partner ku JD
Mark A. Biberstein – Partner ku JD
Holly A. Dyer – Partner ku JD
Charles P. Efflandt – Partner ku JD
Jay F. Fowler – Partner ku JD
. . . I think I see a trend here . . .
To be fair, you try to find a law firm in the region that doesn't have a ton of KU law grads on their payroll that would be willing to skew judgement for a few season(stolen) tickets.
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http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=kan&media=181377
:surprised:
goEMAW chat for this?
Live streaming usually sucks at work for me, so I'm gonna need something. Also will be doing a pre-trial conference by phone simultaneously.
Yeah, I won't be able to get the video to come up either. Someone needs to do chat play by play for this.
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The new logic on ku boards is that "no one" cares about this except K-State and MU fans.
Hopefully they will begin the press conference by stating that they are here to address KSU and MU fans on the happenings at ku.
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The new logic on ku boards is that "no one" cares about this except K-State and MU fans.
What about the FBI?
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odds that brady is on the team next year? 0%? i mean his dad was basically given thousands of dollars (allegedly) by a member/members of the ku atheltic dept during the time period that brady was an area highschool basketball recruit. he's done, right? good thing he got that degree.
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does this mean porn stars will no longer get free court side tickets? :frown:
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http://810whb.com/podcasts
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does this mean porn stars will no longer get free court side tickets? :frown:
The real losers in all of this.
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http://810whb.com/podcasts
:surprised:
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http://810whb.com/podcasts
:eek:
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http://810whb.com/podcasts
:eek:
describe
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Can the presser get its own thread...will need some play by play posts.
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Isn't KU the victim (along with donors) in this scandal? From a general standpoint, I'm trying to grasp why KU would be punished for the actions of a rogue employee(s)?
:surprised:
LMAO, every school should use that excuse when rogue employees are funneling money to their athletes. IT'S BULLETPROOF!
pfft, I have already started this. I have a template post that will be available to drop on any thread if KSU ever gets caught doing this. Delonte paid Beaz? BOOM, I drop my template like and EMAW "junk shot" to plug the gushing hater accusations.
I am revolutionizing bbs'ing dudes.
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Isn't KU the victim (along with donors) in this scandal? From a general standpoint, I'm trying to grasp why KU would be punished for the actions of a rogue employee(s)?
:surprised:
LMAO, every school should use that excuse when rogue employees are funneling money to their athletes. IT'S BULLETPROOF!
pfft, I have already started this. I have a template post that will be available to drop on any thread if KSU ever gets caught doing this. Delonte paid Beaz? BOOM, I drop my template like and EMAW "junk shot" to plug the gushing hater accusations.
I am revolutionizing bbs'ing dudes.
BTW, love that they named it a "Junk Shot".
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http://810whb.com/podcasts
:eek:
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Yahoo stopped the story in 2003 because that's when the Freeman part ended. But the writers absolutely believe it continued for the next 7 years. Millions of dollars. Not looking good for Bill Self.
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Can the presser get its own thread...will need some play by play posts.
http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=kan&media=181377
:surprised:
goEMAW chat for this?
Live streaming usually sucks at work for me, so I'm gonna need something. Also will be doing a pre-trial conference by phone simultaneously.
Yeah, I won't be able to get the video to come up either. Someone needs to do chat play by play for this.
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http://810whb.com/podcasts
:eek:
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Yahoo stopped the story in 2003 because that's when the Freeman part ended. But the writers absolutely believe it continued for the next 7 years. Millions of dollars. Not looking good for Bill Self.
:eek:
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:users: <--- me, getting ready for four hours of the BITB
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:users: <--- me, getting ready for four hours of the BITB
:users: <-----iced coffee and BITB, what an afternoon
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updates please
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You guys that can watch/listen to the press conf. come do play by play on chat!
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According to the report, six individuals, none of whom remain employees or contractors for Kansas Athletics, involved in the scandal are:
• Charlette Blubaugh, former associate athletics director of ticket operations.
• Tom Blubaugh,Charlette Blubaugh's husband and a former contracted consultant.
• Jason Jeffries, former assistant director of ticket operations.
• Rodney Jones, former assistant athletics director for the Williams Educational Fund.
• Ben Kirtland, former associate athletics director of development.
• Brandon Simmons, former assistant athletics director of sales and marketing.
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According to the report, six individuals, none of whom remain employees or contractors for Kansas Athletics, involved in the scandal are:
• Charlette Blubaugh, former associate athletics director of ticket operations.
• Tom Blubaugh,Charlette Blubaugh's husband and a former contracted consultant.
• Jason Jeffries, former assistant director of ticket operations.
• Rodney Jones, former assistant athletics director for the Williams Educational Fund.
• Ben Kirtland, former associate athletics director of development.
• Brandon Simmons, former assistant athletics director of sales and marketing.
5 former Assistant Directors(I assume the report directly to Lew given their titles) are caught up in this.
No way Lew keeps his job. No way.
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http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/may/26/ku-releases-results-investigation-ticket-scandal/
Forensic accountants calculated the face value of the ticket losses to total at least $1.03 million, from 2005 to 2010
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Lew looks cool as a cucumber in the press conference. Yucking it up with the media in attendance.
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entire thirty page report pdf thing....
http://www2.kusports.com/documents/2010/may/26/ku-report-investigation-ticket-scandal/
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According to the report, six individuals, none of whom remain employees or contractors for Kansas Athletics, involved in the scandal are:
• Charlette Blubaugh, former associate athletics director of ticket operations.
• Tom Blubaugh,Charlette Blubaugh's husband and a former contracted consultant.
• Jason Jeffries, former assistant director of ticket operations.
• Rodney Jones, former assistant athletics director for the Williams Educational Fund.
• Ben Kirtland, former associate athletics director of development.
• Brandon Simmons, former assistant athletics director of sales and marketing.
5 former Assistant Directors(I assume the report directly to Lew given their titles) are caught up in this.
No way Lew keeps his job. No way.
meh...it's f'n uk.
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Lew doing his best Ponctious Pilate imitation.
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'It was a curveball thrown, and I didn't see it.'
Pffftt... :lol:
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The accountants think it is likely the losses could be in the range of $1 million to $3 million.
:surprised:
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:users: <--- me, getting ready for four hours of the BITB
:users: <-----iced coffee and BITB, what an afternoon
610 continuing to learn the hard way why you don't bother paying for the right to broadcast the royals
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LOL. We are so much better at stealing tickets than anyone else. Its like being at the best at cheating and not getting punished wasn't enough. Lew :love: :love: :love: :love: Always reaching for the stars.
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lew perkins ... "we are the victim, not the perpetrator"
:fatty:
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I would expect a future Athletic Director at Ku to be in tune with and account for the tickets in the future at KU
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"I would expect a future athletic director of Kansas to be very attuned to the tickets and auditing of the tickets"
K.U. chancellor
"henhouse" Lollerss
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Cat out of the bag?
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soooo....why did the yahoo! article and this presser happen on the same day??? Did yahoo know this before hand?
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LOL. We are so much better at stealing tickets than anyone else. Its like being at the best at cheating and not getting punished wasn't enough. Lew :love: :love: :love: :love: Always reaching for the stars.
Now this is a quality EMAJ post.
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BITB really bringing it. officially called for lew's job.
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They handed the findings over to the Douglas County DA . . . that's akin to handing them over to the dumpster out back.
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So when BMW told us Perkins was building a monster, he wasn't messing around. This is a frickin' monster alright.
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They handed the findings over to the Douglas County DA . . . that's akin to handing them over to the dumpster out back.
Wouldn't it be more convenient to just hand them to one of the FBI officials who were already in the building?
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They handed the findings over to the Douglas County DA . . . that's akin to handing them over to the dumpster out back.
Wouldn't it be more convenient to just hand them to one of the FBI officials who were already in the building?
FBI doesn't need that garbage report. They're running their own show, thank god. At least two (former) KU employees were instructed by "federal agents" not to even speak to KU's investigating law firm (per the report).
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KK:
Lew's list is a mile long
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They handed the findings over to the Douglas County DA . . . that's akin to handing them over to the dumpster out back.
Wouldn't it be more convenient to just hand them to one of the FBI officials who were already in the building?
FBI doesn't need that garbage report. They're running their own show, thank god. At least two (former) KU employees were instructed by "federal agents" not to even speak to KU's investigating law firm (per the report).
I really like GOSP's summarizations of the report because I am far to lazy to read it myself :shy:
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AP says it could be up to $3 mil.
Associated Press
LAWRENCE, Kan. -- An independent investigation into the Kansas athletic department says at least $1 million worth of tickets were sold inappropriately during the past five years.
The investigation conducted by a Wichita law firm showed that five Kansas athletics staffers and a consultant sold or used at least 17,609 basketball tickets, 2,181 football tickets and a number of parking passes and other passes for personal purposes. Many were relayed to brokers.
The investigation estimated the losses could be as much as $3 million -- more than $887,000 from basketball tickets -- and believe the scam could have started several years earlier.
The university said it will take immediate measures to prevent future wrongdoing within the ticket office. It is also working with federal authorities investigating the allegations.
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The rationalizations from my ku co-workers is precious, and relies on extremely low IQ. Their story is basically that the money didn't come from any bank accounts of the athletic dept. Apparently not putting money in that bank account that should have gone to the athletic dept is NOT stealing. I like the baldness of assuming every one is idiotic enough to buy that story.
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue?
:confused:
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue?
:confused:
to funnel to players, nobody else missed it
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this is about to get good... :popcorn:
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue?
:confused:
to have money to give to players/recruits families. roger morningstar, etc. :dunno:
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It's just 3,528 "missing" tickets a year . . . hell, every athletic department "misplaces" 3500 plus tickets a year, why even bother to go ask about it right??
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue? :confused:
lew perkins is a god :fatty:
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue?
:confused:
to funnel to players, nobody else missed it
You really think KU needs missing ticket revenue to funnel money to players? Good grief.
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue?
:confused:
Weren't these tickets complimentary based on contributions to the Williams Fund? If so, KU didn't really miss out on any ticket revenue, as they already received their donation. They just stole the ticket from whatever donor should have received it.
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue?
:confused:
to funnel to players, nobody else missed it
You really think KU needs missing ticket revenue to funnel money to players? Good grief.
anyone not wearing five pairs of crimson and blue glasses knows what was happening.
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue?
:confused:
well it gets a little dicey when some of that money helped fund an AAU organization that has been "pumping" recruits to ku.
:dunno:
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue?
:confused:
to funnel to players, nobody else missed it
You really think KU needs missing ticket revenue to funnel money to players? Good grief.
Doug Compton ain't going to live forever, you know.
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue?
:confused:
to funnel to players, nobody else missed it
You really think KU needs missing ticket revenue to funnel money to players? Good grief.
Doug Compton ain't going to live forever, you know.
There are hundreds of Doug Compton's who contribute to KU's athletic department. Compton is just the local guy who still lives in Lawrence.
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue?
:confused:
to funnel to players, nobody else missed it
You really think KU needs missing ticket revenue to funnel money to players? Good grief.
Doug Compton ain't going to live forever, you know.
There are hundreds of Doug Compton's who contribute to KU's athletic department. Compton is just the local guy who still lives in Lawrence.
Man, you guys must have tons of Gridiron Clubs with that money rolling in :eek:
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue?
:confused:
to funnel to players, nobody else missed it
You really think KU needs missing ticket revenue to funnel money to players? Good grief.
Doug Compton ain't going to live forever, you know.
There are hundreds of Doug Compton's who contribute to KU's athletic department. Compton is just the local guy who still lives in Lawrence.
And provides houses for the Head Coach
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The best part of the whole thing was when Lew walked up and said we were the victim, and then looked into the camera and went :gocho: . Best in the biz, folks. Imagine what Baylor could have been today if Lew was down there for all their issues.
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue?
:confused:
to funnel to players, nobody else missed it
You really think KU needs missing ticket revenue to funnel money to players? Good grief.
Doug Compton ain't going to live forever, you know.
There are hundreds of Doug Compton's who contribute to KU's athletic department. Compton is just the local guy who still lives in Lawrence.
And provides houses for the Head Coach
Your point?
:confused:
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It's about plausible deniability Ben . . . this was a strictly a cash business, making it much easier funnel money and much for anyone to track.
Rich White Kid Redshirts . . . who can account if Rich White Kid Redshirt "loans" Sherron Collins $300 bucks.
Who can account if Roger Morningstar goes back to the safe and pulls out a wad of cash for Brady to go "distribute".
Who can account for Mario Chalmers stopping buy the house and getting some walking money from dad, that he "loans" to some of his team mates.
Damn . . . this isn't hard.
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What am I missing here? Why would KU's athletic department want to lose up to $3 million in ticket revenue?
:confused:
to funnel to players, nobody else missed it
You really think KU needs missing ticket revenue to funnel money to players? Good grief.
Doug Compton ain't going to live forever, you know.
There are hundreds of Doug Compton's who contribute to KU's athletic department. Compton is just the local guy who still lives in Lawrence.
And provides houses for the Head Coach
Your point?
:confused:
Compton is the "go to" guy for funneling money to players via their parents, and this scheme provides an alternative source of funding for the day that Doug Compton can no longer do that.
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There are hundreds of Doug Compton's who contribute to KU's athletic department. Compton is just the local guy who still lives in Lawrence.
no.
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It's about plausible deniability Ben . . . this was a strictly a cash business, making it much easier funnel money and much for anyone to track.
Rich White Kid Redshirts . . . who can account if Rich White Kid Redshirt "loans" Sherron Collins $300 bucks.
Who can account if Roger Morningstar goes back to the safe and pulls out a wad of cash for Brady to go "distribute".
Who can account for Mario Chalmers stopping buy the house and getting some walking money from dad, that he "loans" to some of his team mates.
Damn . . . this isn't hard.
Yet all you're doing is speculating. Anyone with an anti-KU agenda can dream up a bunch of crap that may or may not have happened.
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The best part of the whole thing was when Lew walked up and said we were the victim, and then looked into the camera and went :gocho: . Best in the biz, folks. Imagine what Baylor could have been today if Lew was down there for all their issues.
:fatty:
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Yet all you're doing is speculating. Anyone with an anti-KU agenda can dream up a bunch of crap that may or may not have happened.
But it's not speculation that a current players dad (who is also a booster) took part in the criminal activities :dunno:
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It's about plausible deniability Ben . . . this was a strictly a cash business, making it much easier funnel money and much for anyone to track.
Rich White Kid Redshirts . . . who can account if Rich White Kid Redshirt "loans" Sherron Collins $300 bucks.
Who can account if Roger Morningstar goes back to the safe and pulls out a wad of cash for Brady to go "distribute".
Who can account for Mario Chalmers stopping buy the house and getting some walking money from dad, that he "loans" to some of his team mates.
Damn . . . this isn't hard.
Yet all you're doing is speculating. Anyone with an anti-KU agenda can dream up a bunch of crap that may or may not have happened.
No dumbass . . . you're trying to paint a picture that this $hit couldn't happen. ku has set up a perfect system to make it extremely easy to do it . . . the rich white kid system goes all the way back to Larry Brown and ku's JV team . . . full of rich white kids, some of who didn't even make their high school basketball teams.
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It's about plausible deniability Ben . . . this was a strictly a cash business, making it much easier funnel money and much for anyone to track.
Rich White Kid Redshirts . . . who can account if Rich White Kid Redshirt "loans" Sherron Collins $300 bucks.
Who can account if Roger Morningstar goes back to the safe and pulls out a wad of cash for Brady to go "distribute".
Who can account for Mario Chalmers stopping buy the house and getting some walking money from dad, that he "loans" to some of his team mates.
Damn . . . this isn't hard.
Yet all you're doing is speculating. Anyone with an anti-KU agenda can dream up a bunch of crap that may or may not have happened.
No dumbass . . . you're trying to paint a picture that this $hit couldn't happen. ku has set up a perfect system to make it extremely easy to do it . . . the rich white kid system goes all the way back to Larry Brown and ku's JV team . . . full of rich white kids, some of who didn't even make their high school basketball teams.
Quit melting down.
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It's about plausible deniability Ben . . . this was a strictly a cash business, making it much easier funnel money and much for anyone to track.
Rich White Kid Redshirts . . . who can account if Rich White Kid Redshirt "loans" Sherron Collins $300 bucks.
Who can account if Roger Morningstar goes back to the safe and pulls out a wad of cash for Brady to go "distribute".
Who can account for Mario Chalmers stopping buy the house and getting some walking money from dad, that he "loans" to some of his team mates.
Damn . . . this isn't hard.
Yet all you're doing is speculating. Anyone with an anti-KU agenda can dream up a bunch of crap that may or may not have happened.
Anyone without a pro-KU agenda can see this for what it really is. I would react in the exact same way if this news came out about any other school, especially one with a recent national championship. If this news were about K-State, I would probably react about like you have. Don't worry though. The NCAA won't do anything to poor KU.
NCAA :cheers: KU
Just sit back, :bwpopcorn:, and enjoy the show.
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The Melting Down tapout invoked early today by Ben.
He's just a shadow of his former self.
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It's about plausible deniability Ben . . . this was a strictly a cash business, making it much easier funnel money and much for anyone to track.
Rich White Kid Redshirts . . . who can account if Rich White Kid Redshirt "loans" Sherron Collins $300 bucks.
Who can account if Roger Morningstar goes back to the safe and pulls out a wad of cash for Brady to go "distribute".
Who can account for Mario Chalmers stopping buy the house and getting some walking money from dad, that he "loans" to some of his team mates.
Damn . . . this isn't hard.
Yet all you're doing is speculating. Anyone with an anti-KU agenda can dream up a bunch of crap that may or may not have happened.
:lol: you know damn well that this is exactly what happened. Better to just say "so what? we cheated and aint a damn thing going to happen to us" than play THAT stupid.
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The Melting Down tapout invoked early today by Ben.
He's just a shadow of his former self.
His meltdown card has come out pretty quickly today.
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I kind of admire Ben in a way. Sure, the FBI is all over this thing, but he's still assuming that nothing bad happened and that all is well.
Be strong, Benjamin, be strong.
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I don't know if anything's going to happen to KU, but the whole Pump and Run money/recruiting feedback loop is about to crash and burn. When that gets pried open is when this thing gets really interesting.
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I kind of admire Ben in a way. Sure, the FBI is all over this thing, but he's still assuming that nothing bad happened and that all is well.
Be strong, Benjamin, be strong.
Up to $3 million in face value ticket revenue went untaxed. That's one main reason why the FBI is involved.
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No ben, that's ONE of the reasons. :facepalm:
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I don't know if anything's going to happen to KU, but the whole Pump and Run money/recruiting feedback loop is about to crash and burn. When that gets pried open is when this thing gets really interesting.
That will be even more embarrassing. Not that there was involvement, but that we got gems like Tyrel Reed, Morningstar, and Releford while guys like Gilbert Arenas, Channing Fry,Udonis Haslem, and Jordan Farmar went elsewhere.
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I don't know if anything's going to happen to KU, but the whole Pump and Run money/recruiting feedback loop is about to crash and burn. When that gets pried open is when this thing gets really interesting.
That will be even more embarrassing. Not that there was involvement, but that we got gems like Tyrel Reed, Morningstar, and Releford while guys like Gilbert Arenas, Channing Fry,Udonis Haslem, and Jordan Farmar went elsewhere.
Chalmers :dunno:
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BITB is killing it
"Monetarily speaking we are looking at the biggest scam in college history"
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I don't know if anything's going to happen to KU, but the whole Pump and Run money/recruiting feedback loop is about to crash and burn. When that gets pried open is when this thing gets really interesting.
That will be even more embarrassing. Not that there was involvement, but that we got gems like Tyrel Reed, Morningstar, and Releford while guys like Gilbert Arenas, Channing Fry,Udonis Haslem, and Jordan Farmar went elsewhere.
Yeah, but you got David Padgett. :flush:
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Yet all you're doing is speculating. Anyone with an anti-KU agenda can dream up a bunch of crap that may or may not have happened.
Speculating based on the fact that the father of a KU player was walking around with hundreds of thousands of dollars of KU Athletic department money.
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Yet all you're doing is speculating. Anyone with an anti-KU agenda can dream up a bunch of crap that may or may not have happened.
Speculating based on the fact that the father of a KU player was walking around with hundreds of thousands of dollars of KU Athletic department money.
He had hundreds of thousands of dollars of money to begin with.
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Yet all you're doing is speculating. Anyone with an anti-KU agenda can dream up a bunch of crap that may or may not have happened.
Speculating based on the fact that the father of a KU player was walking around with hundreds of thousands of dollars of KU Athletic department money.
He had hundreds of thousands of dollars of money to begin with.
lol
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Yet all you're doing is speculating. Anyone with an anti-KU agenda can dream up a bunch of crap that may or may not have happened.
Speculating based on the fact that the father of a KU player was walking around with hundreds of thousands of dollars of KU Athletic department money.
IMO, that is going to be the NCAA's primary area of concern. The father of a recruit/player was being paid by a ku employee.
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Yet all you're doing is speculating. Anyone with an anti-KU agenda can dream up a bunch of crap that may or may not have happened.
Speculating based on the fact that the father of a KU player was walking around with hundreds of thousands of dollars of KU Athletic department money.
He had hundreds of thousands of dollars of money to begin with.
lol
It's the old "he was already rich, so it's ok" defense. Good thing it wasn't Collins mom who recieved hundreds of thousands from shady goings on in the KU atheletic department. She's poor. :ohno:
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I kind of admire Ben in a way. Sure, the FBI is all over this thing, but he's still assuming that nothing bad happened and that all is well.
Be strong, Benjamin, be strong.
Up to $3 million in face value ticket revenue went untaxed. That's one main reason why the FBI is involved.
Up to $3 million in revenue lost.... :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:) This is chump change to the revenue sharing they'll be enjoying when they join the Big 10 right Ben?? :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)
What a dolt. :blah: (ftp://:blah:)
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Assuming the $15 mil/yr figure in the report, and the 5 yr period mentioned, the $3 mil equates to 4% loss in rev.
That is huge.
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What's POSSIBLY $3 million in tickets when your funneling cash to college hoopsters through a corrupt AAU organization and guys like ku booster Roger Morningstar to bring in top recruits that ku fanboy boosters will pay tens of thousands of dollars to see play and then contribute more money on top of that??
POSSIBLY $3 million is chump change.
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What's POSSIBLY $3 million in tickets when your funneling cash to college hoopsters through a corrupt AAU organization and guys like ku booster Roger Morningstar to bring in top recruits that ku fanboy boosters will pay tens of thousands of dollars to see play and then contribute more money on top of that??
POSSIBLY $3 million is chump change.
:bawl:
Welcome to big-time athletics, you crybaby bitch.
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You continue to tap out Ben.
Again, any thoughts about the fact that ku booster and former ku player Roger Morningstar is linked extensively to this money laundering operation in the ku athletic department??
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You continue to tap out Ben.
Again, any thoughts about the fact that ku booster and former ku player Roger Morningstar is linked extensively to this money laundering operation in the ku athletic department??
It doesn't surprise me one bit. I played AAU basketball back in the day, and Morningstar was the head coach of the Converse All-Stars. The guy has connections and makes quite a bit of money.
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You continue to tap out Ben.
Again, any thoughts about the fact that ku booster and former ku player Roger Morningstar is linked extensively to this money laundering operation in the ku athletic department??
It doesn't surprise me one bit. I played AAU basketball back in the day, and Morningstar was the head coach of the Converse All-Stars. The guy has connections and makes quite a bit of money.
Aren't these connections the reason he is under fire by the FBI? :dunno:
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You continue to tap out Ben.
Again, any thoughts about the fact that ku booster and former ku player Roger Morningstar is linked extensively to this money laundering operation in the ku athletic department??
It doesn't surprise me one bit. I played AAU basketball back in the day, and Morningstar was the head coach of the Converse All-Stars. The guy has connections and makes quite a bit of money.
So you're perfectly fine with ku booster and former ku player Roger Morningstar being extinsively involved in possible multiple federal crimes, an extremely corrupt AAU organization and likely involved in a ku ticket scalping money laundering operation then??
Also, care to expound a little more the absolutely idiotic theory that no one in the senior administration at ku knew anything about an operation that involved the very lifeblood of the athletic department . . . over 17,000 tickets worth millions simply unaccounted for with no questions asked??
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You continue to tap out Ben.
Again, any thoughts about the fact that ku booster and former ku player Roger Morningstar is linked extensively to this money laundering operation in the ku athletic department??
It doesn't surprise me one bit. I played AAU basketball back in the day, and Morningstar was the head coach of the Converse All-Stars. The guy has connections and makes quite a bit of money.
research where he made his money.
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You continue to tap out Ben.
Again, any thoughts about the fact that ku booster and former ku player Roger Morningstar is linked extensively to this money laundering operation in the ku athletic department??
It doesn't surprise me one bit. I played AAU basketball back in the day, and Morningstar was the head coach of the Converse All-Stars. The guy has connections and makes quite a bit of money.
So you're perfectly fine with ku booster and former ku player Roger Morningstar being extinsively involved in possible multiple federal crimes, an extremely corrupt AAU organization and likely involved in a ku ticket scalping money laundering operation then??
Also, care to expound a little more the absolutely idiotic theory that no one in the senior administration at ku knew anything about an operation that involved the very lifeblood of the athletic department . . . over 17,000 tickets worth millions simply unaccounted for with no questions asked??
Most AAU organizations are corrupt. This is really nothing more than big-time college athletics. IIRC, you personally hope that someday K-State gets to the point where there bringing in top talent every year and competing for national titles.
:dunno:
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What's POSSIBLY $3 million in tickets when your funneling cash to college hoopsters through a corrupt AAU organization and guys like ku booster Roger Morningstar to bring in top recruits that ku fanboy boosters will pay tens of thousands of dollars to see play and then contribute more money on top of that??
POSSIBLY $3 million is chump change.
:bawl:
Welcome to big-time athletics, you crybaby bitch.
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You continue to tap out Ben.
Again, any thoughts about the fact that ku booster and former ku player Roger Morningstar is linked extensively to this money laundering operation in the ku athletic department??
It doesn't surprise me one bit. I played AAU basketball back in the day, and Morningstar was the head coach of the Converse All-Stars. The guy has connections and makes quite a bit of money.
So you're perfectly fine with ku booster and former ku player Roger Morningstar being extinsively involved in possible multiple federal crimes, an extremely corrupt AAU organization and likely involved in a ku ticket scalping money laundering operation then??
Also, care to expound a little more the absolutely idiotic theory that no one in the senior administration at ku knew anything about an operation that involved the very lifeblood of the athletic department . . . over 17,000 tickets worth millions simply unaccounted for with no questions asked??
Most AAU organizations are corrupt. This is really nothing more than big-time college athletics. IIRC, you personally hope that someday K-State gets to the point where there bringing in top talent every year and competing for national titles.
:dunno:
I fully understand how corrupt AAU organizations are Ben . . . that's really only a small part of the story. The big part is that ku booster Roger Morningstar is up to his ears in a corrupt AAU organization.
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I kind of admire Ben in a way. Sure, the FBI is all over this thing, but he's still assuming that nothing bad happened and that all is well.
Be strong, Benjamin, be strong.
Up to $3 million in face value ticket revenue went untaxed. That's one main reason why the FBI is involved.
Does that mean the IRS is covering all the money laundering, fraud, and other crimes?
Is Wednesday still opposite day?
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You know what's awesome? The fact that BillyBob from the LJW comments had this nailed from the get go
He [Freeman] delivered Rodney and he is going to deliver Morningstar. Probation.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/apr/21/lawrence-developer-set-be-sentenced-thursday-junct/
F8cking BillyBob! Saw him on the way to work this morning, told him Congrats, and we traded an "air high-five". Here's the pic I took:
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incredible interview by BITB http://810whb.com/podcasts
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dax and anyone else fighting with bmw or other kans homers...nothing matters to them unless this ends up in wins/championships vacated, postseason bans, or bill self leaving.
and frankly, bill self better be doing some serious calipari-esq soul searching and consider jumping ship before a lot of this starts sticking to him. Some of those NBA openings will start to look pretty good soon...
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I've already said the NCAA won't do anything about this . . . they probably won't even give it a second look.
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I've already said the NCAA won't do anything about this . . . they probably won't even give it a second look.
yup. which unfortunately makes a lot of this rather pointless. to most fans its all about the banners and not what it took to get there.
would still like to see lew go down though, that guy just seems so untouchable.
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dax and anyone else fighting with bmw or other kans homers...nothing matters to them unless this ends up in wins/championships vacated, postseason bans, or bill self leaving.
and frankly, bill self better be doing some serious calipari-esq soul searching and consider jumping ship before a lot of this starts sticking to him. Some of those NBA openings will start to look pretty good soon...
Yeah, we've seen how good he is at developing NBA talent. Which is probably why they have to pay players to come to UK. It's not for their future basketball career.
"No, we can't get you to produce in the NBA, but we'll pay you lots of non-taxed money while you're here..." - Seff
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You continue to tap out Ben.
Again, any thoughts about the fact that ku booster and former ku player Roger Morningstar is linked extensively to this money laundering operation in the ku athletic department??
It doesn't surprise me one bit. I played AAU basketball back in the day, and Morningstar was the head coach of the Converse All-Stars. The guy has connections and makes quite a bit of money.
Who did you play AAU ball for?
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Nothing to see here. Please move along, and go about your business.
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What's POSSIBLY $3 million in tickets when your funneling cash to college hoopsters through a corrupt AAU organization and guys like ku booster Roger Morningstar to bring in top recruits that ku fanboy boosters will pay tens of thousands of dollars to see play and then contribute more money on top of that??
POSSIBLY $3 million is chump change.
:bawl:
Welcome to big-time athletics, you crybaby bitch.
Love it when Ben goes from 0 to pissed off in .02 seconds.
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It doesn't surprise me one bit. I played AAU basketball back in the day, and Morningstar was the head coach of the Converse All-Stars. The guy has connections and makes quite a bit of money.
Do tell. Pics? What was your a/t ratio?
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It doesn't surprise me one bit. I played AAU basketball back in the day, and Morningstar was the head coach of the Converse All-Stars. The guy has connections and makes quite a bit of money.
Do tell. Pics? What was your a/t ratio?
BMW you must have been really good? How come you didn't walk on the KU basketball team? Was your family not rich/white enough?
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http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/05/27/a-ticket-scandal/
JoePa Body slams BMWJhawk
:eek:
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http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/05/27/a-ticket-scandal/
JoePa Body slams BMWJhawk
:eek:
Perkins as Kansas athletic director had either hired or promoted everyone involved in the ticket scandal, and he had more or less created the system that was so thoroughly abused, and he was in charge of the athletic department while this fun bit of malfeasance was going on. For this, well, let him explain:
“I accept responsibility, not for any criminal activity, but because I am the athletic director and it happened during my watch,” Perkins said.
That statement doesn’t exactly overflow with responsibility acceptance, does it?
Lew Perkins is an evil genius. Also, the sun is hot and tacos are delicious.
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I love tacos. :driving:
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The new logic on ku boards is that "no one" cares about this except K-State and MU fans.
While looking to see what Virginia Tech fans felt about our game next year, I discovered that the Hokies have at least mild interest in the scandal.
Warning: It's in 'Tigerboard' format
http://www.techsideline.com/message_board/basketball/2010/May/26/488598.php (http://www.techsideline.com/message_board/basketball/2010/May/26/488598.php)
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The new logic on ku boards is that "no one" cares about this except K-State and MU fans.
While looking to see what Virginia Tech fans felt about our game next year, I discovered that the Hokies have at least mild interest in the scandal.
Warning: It's in 'Tigerboard' format
http://www.techsideline.com/message_board/basketball/2010/May/26/488598.php (http://www.techsideline.com/message_board/basketball/2010/May/26/488598.php)
Obviously there are just a bunch of K-State and MU grads who find employment in Blacksburg, VA... Obviously.
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Crazy, that VT board links to this Doyel article about the Pumps getting NCAA tickets from fricking 2003! WTF?!?!!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/6826382 (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/6826382)
EDIT to note: CLEARLY the BITB.
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Tully lists the greatest hits from the report.
http://cjonline.com/news/2010-05-27/report_focuses_on_blame_methods
Blubaugh's neighbor, a Kansas State fan, requested tickets to the 2008 KU-K-State football game. "I need 8 ... an outrageous request that only a K-State fan would make," the neighbor said in an e-mail, indicating he would be entertaining KU fans that weekend. "Can you cut me a deal?" Blubaugh then answered, "How about you get them for free." This was at KU's expense.
:ksu:
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Tully lists the greatest hits from the report.
http://cjonline.com/news/2010-05-27/report_focuses_on_blame_methods
Blubaugh's neighbor, a Kansas State fan, requested tickets to the 2008 KU-K-State football game. "I need 8 ... an outrageous request that only a K-State fan would make," the neighbor said in an e-mail, indicating he would be entertaining KU fans that weekend. "Can you cut me a deal?" Blubaugh then answered, "How about you get them for free." This was at KU's expense.
:ksu:
LOL :ksu:
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K-State fan picks up free premo game tickets with an email . . . meanwhile Tardville boosters get snubbed or go to the back of the line. LOL . . . classic.
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It doesn't surprise me one bit. I played AAU basketball back in the day, and Morningstar was the head coach of the Converse All-Stars. The guy has connections and makes quite a bit of money.
Do tell. Pics? What was your a/t ratio?
Don't remember Beems' AAU days but I do know for a fact that he did not play basketball in high school.
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It doesn't surprise me one bit. I played AAU basketball back in the day, and Morningstar was the head coach of the Converse All-Stars. The guy has connections and makes quite a bit of money.
Do tell. Pics? What was your a/t ratio?
Don't remember Beems' AAU days but I do know for a fact that he did not play basketball in high school.
Ben? Care to comment? Seems like there is some confusion on whether or not you did play hoops, or didn't. Picture would suffice.
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It doesn't surprise me one bit. I played AAU basketball back in the day, and Morningstar was the head coach of the Converse All-Stars. The guy has connections and makes quite a bit of money.
Do tell. Pics? What was your a/t ratio?
Don't remember Beems' AAU days but I do know for a fact that he did not play basketball in high school.
Ben? Care to comment? Seems like there is some confusion on whether or not you did play hoops, or didn't. Picture would suffice.
Maybe he meant PAL not AAU. I played PAL in T-town, great league.
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Quote from GPC:
Charlette Blubaugh's neighbor Reply
I remember someone posting on here about the same time Rodney Jones was put on administrative leave. It seems like I remember they were neighbors of Blubaugh and commented about the $200,000? they invested in landscape and a pool. I laughed at the time, thinking nobody could possibly scam more than say $5,000 per year in tickets without getting caught...boy was I wrong!
attached to the Final Investigative Report is a copy of a email conversation between Blubaugh and a neighbor who identifies himself as a K-Stater. He asks her if she can help him score some tickets for KSU vs KU football game as he has relatives coming to town. She responds by asking him if he would like to have eight seats for free.
Yes, it's our very own. It was all over this board yesterday and this morning. He was interviewed for TV by his wife's competitor.
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A ku fan told me last night that his friend that worked at the ticket office distributing student tickets used to take several season packages and sell them to non-students. He didn't even know people higher up than him were doing the same thing on a much larger scale. It's just rampant over there.
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I played PAL in T-town, great league.
PAL is/was amazing.
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I'm sure Ben played bigtime ball and this is all a misunderstanding. Dude knows just about everything. :alleyoop: <------- Ben and his boy balling in the big time AAU circuit.
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A PAL league veteran here. NORTH Y!! Played a fall league in Topeka too but don't remember the name of it. Played with some Hayden kids, West kids, and SM Heights kids. 1990 thru 1992. Good times.
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A ku fan told me last night that his friend that worked at the ticket office distributing student tickets used to take several season packages and sell them to non-students. He didn't even know people higher up than him were doing the same thing on a much larger scale. It's just rampant over there.
I was one of the last 10 students who they let into the Texas A&M game at Allen in 2006 (Acie Law :jerk: ). There was a big dust-up at the time about 100-200 students being shut out of the game despite purchasing tickets. This stuff certainly makes you wonder.
Also worth noting: I was in the second row of the student seats at the Oral Roberts game in '06 :facepalm:
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If this indicates ticket theft, KSU is fracked.
Seems like there were students turned away at a couple of big games last year.
Pretty sure they oversell. Either that, or I am believing exactly what they want me to... :dunno:
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From GPC poster:
-I didn't realize that records for an entire year of basketball ticket sales had be destroyed (2008/2009). This is the year after their tainted NC, so demand (and abuse) would have been the greatest.
-Also, Perkins allocates all comp tickets (yet didn't know anything about this).
-Oh, our buddy the neighbor is in article.
:surprised:
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From GPC poster:
-I didn't realize that records for an entire year of basketball ticket sales had be destroyed (2008/2009). This is the year after their tainted NC, so demand (and abuse) would have been the greatest.
-Also, Perkins allocates all comp tickets (yet didn't know anything about this).
-Oh, our buddy the neighbor is in article.
:surprised:
Holy crap. What?!
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If this indicates ticket theft, KSU is fracked.
Seems like there were students turned away at a couple of big games last year.
Pretty sure they oversell. Either that, or I am believing exactly what they want me to... :dunno:
That's just overselling. Perfectly legasl as far as I know. The tickets even stated that "this ticket does not guarentee entrace" or w/e.
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From GPC poster:
-I didn't realize that records for an entire year of basketball ticket sales had be destroyed (2008/2009). This is the year after their tainted NC, so demand (and abuse) would have been the greatest.
-Also, Perkins allocates all comp tickets (yet didn't know anything about this).
-Oh, our buddy the neighbor is in article.
:surprised:
:popcorn:
This is getting pretty good.
http://www.mancavesportslounge.com/2010/05/27/rock-chalk-embarrassment/ (http://www.mancavesportslounge.com/2010/05/27/rock-chalk-embarrassment/)
“Pressed for details on who he was delivering the tickets to in the hotel rooms, Dave Freeman refused.
“Not going there,” Freeman said. “One of them was about 250 pounds and he [expletive] talked like [he had a New Jersey accent]. You seen Goodfellas? I don’t know who the [expletive] they were. I can honestly tell you, I don’t know who the [expletive] they were. It was ‘This is the room you go to, this is the guy you need to see.’ There were no [expletive] names. The door would open and a guy would be standing there with a gun. You walk in, do the deal and you’re out.”
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If this indicates ticket theft, KSU is fracked.
Seems like there were students turned away at a couple of big games last year.
Pretty sure they oversell. Either that, or I am believing exactly what they want me to... :dunno:
Nahhhhh, they purposely oversold because they knew the demand was going to be through the roof once we beat Texas. I'm pretty sure they even released a statement about it before the ku game ("Tickets were oversold, not gaurenteed enterence etc.")
Our Athletic Department might be stupid but we aren't crooks
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If this indicates ticket theft, KSU is fracked.
Seems like there were students turned away at a couple of big games last year.
Pretty sure they oversell. Either that, or I am believing exactly what they want me to... :dunno:
Nahhhhh, they purposely oversold because they knew the demand was going to be through the roof once we beat Texas. I'm pretty sure they even released a statement about it before the ku game ("Tickets were oversold, not gaurenteed enterence etc.")
Our Athletic Department might be stupid but we aren't crooks
Actually, it has nothing to do with beating Texas and everything to do with making the students buy football tickets to get basketball tickets this year. The student section in the LHC Bill Snyder Family Stadium is much larger than the student section in Bramlage Coliseum.