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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #325 on: April 24, 2022, 03:38:35 PM »
france trump and slovenia trump both go down. so that's good.

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"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #328 on: May 04, 2022, 07:25:57 PM »
If you sell riot gear:  Consider France a prime long term customer


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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #330 on: May 06, 2022, 10:19:15 AM »
I can see how the latter might be taken as more apolitical than the former.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #331 on: May 06, 2022, 10:23:18 AM »
I can see that playing out that way. There are quite a few examples on this board who try to claim they are neither right now left but want everyone to stop arguing because they're really closet MAGA's

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« Reply #332 on: May 06, 2022, 06:51:58 PM »
i read the first group as "both sides make some good points" and the second group as "i hate both sides".
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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« Reply #333 on: May 06, 2022, 09:04:22 PM »
i read the first group as "both sides make some good points" and the second group as "i hate both sides".

Yeah prolly right

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #335 on: June 08, 2022, 07:26:58 PM »
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #336 on: July 12, 2022, 03:24:21 PM »
I thought this was an interesting read and I think I agree with it. TL;DR: Supreme Court and Presidential powers are expanding because Congress focuses on partisan warfare rather than doing it's job. This will not be sustainable.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/congress-inaction-partisanship/670486/

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« Reply #337 on: July 12, 2022, 03:30:48 PM »
I think that’s exactly why people are upset/concerned with Roe and similar cases getting overturned. If Congress actually seemed to represent the majority of Americans’ interest, most people wouldn’t really care.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #338 on: July 12, 2022, 03:41:38 PM »
I thought this was an interesting read and I think I agree with it. TL;DR: Supreme Court and Presidential powers are expanding because Congress focuses on partisan warfare rather than doing it's job. This will not be sustainable.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/congress-inaction-partisanship/670486/

Yeah, Congress has been derelict in its duties. And the Court can simply do what it wants and say, "this is a question for Congress to decide, not unelected judges," knowing full well Congress won't do crap about it.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #340 on: July 13, 2022, 06:24:18 PM »
the democrats have really mumped themselves

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #341 on: July 13, 2022, 06:33:11 PM »
the democrats have really mumped themselves
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #342 on: July 13, 2022, 07:04:51 PM »
the democrats have really mumped themselves

this sort of thing seems to me to pretty much just be switching the gun to auto and blasting away at your feet.

https://twitter.com/MollyBeck/status/1547348750129156103
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #343 on: July 14, 2022, 09:15:32 AM »
Ugh, I hate defending Democrats, but how do you propose they speak to that? The professor who mushed Josh Hawley earlier this week handled it well, but anything short of trans erasure would make Republicans pounce.

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« Reply #344 on: July 14, 2022, 10:29:25 AM »
the democrats have really mumped themselves

this sort of thing seems to me to pretty much just be switching the gun to auto and blasting away at your feet.

https://twitter.com/MollyBeck/status/1547348750129156103
They absolutely should get their crap together on how to message it better, but it is not really that difficult to say it is absolutely a women’s issue but it also is an issue for the trans community.

Saying “yes, and” is better.

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« Reply #345 on: July 14, 2022, 02:33:26 PM »
the democrats have really mumped themselves

this sort of thing seems to me to pretty much just be switching the gun to auto and blasting away at your feet.

https://twitter.com/MollyBeck/status/1547348750129156103
They absolutely should get their crap together on how to message it better, but it is not really that difficult to say it is absolutely a women’s issue but it also is an issue for the trans community.

Saying “yes, and” is better.

For the people who actually care about that particular issue, that much nuance doesn't matter at all. The trans people who feel very strongly about erasure would be pissed by saying it's "absolutely a women's issue" and there are a faction of women who would actually be offended by any "and" that includes a trans person.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #346 on: July 14, 2022, 02:39:52 PM »
I am by no means the ultimate judge here but if people have a problem with that they they can safely be told to eff off.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #347 on: July 14, 2022, 02:44:20 PM »
What would the absolute master of this stuff Bill Clinton say? Maybe something like, "sometimes men do get pregnant, but only women are mothers."

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« Reply #348 on: July 14, 2022, 03:55:23 PM »
I am by no means the ultimate judge here but if people have a problem with that they they can safely be told to eff off.

That's the point. There's always going to be a problem with something that someone says, yet it's only Democrats that get hit with "bad messaging."

How absolutely awful have Republicans been with the messaging with this pregnant 10 year old girl? Every time they open their mouths about it they are either lying or saying something amazingly insensitive. It wouldn't be hard to say something to the effect of, " this is a very unique case and we aren't interested in legislating 10 year old rape victims, our focus on defending the right to life is greater than this specific case." They're aren't saying that because religious fundamentalists would go wild.

Republicans can cater to their extremists and people just chalk it up to business as usual. Democrats try to actual consider the feelings of their constituents and moderates lose their minds. They don't say anything and people cry, they defend trans people and their allies and people cry. I'd rather they err on the side of vocally defending the marginalized but I understand why they don't, even though they put themselves in this position.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #349 on: July 14, 2022, 05:47:19 PM »
article further discussing some results from the nyt poll.

https://twitter.com/crampell/status/1547576438877855748
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