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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #75 on: September 09, 2020, 08:41:33 PM »
this is at least somewhat, a worldwide trend.  but the speed with which it reached breaking point and rolled on past in the united states under trump is still hard to appreciate.

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1303843439247753218
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« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2020, 06:42:35 PM »
this is pretty amazing.  the dog that caught the car.

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1304892879886848001


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« Reply #77 on: September 16, 2020, 08:02:34 PM »
probably the most important question in u.s. politics is if these voters stick with dems for 2022.

https://twitter.com/RonBrownstein/status/1306395219542200321
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« Reply #78 on: September 21, 2020, 11:44:51 PM »
candidate effects probably make this data useless, but it could be an interesting natural experiment.

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1308250822246047744
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« Reply #79 on: September 23, 2020, 08:06:08 PM »
this is an interesting dynamic.  not likely to be of much immediate import, but farther out, it could.

https://twitter.com/perrybaconjr/status/1308815346602827776
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« Reply #80 on: September 23, 2020, 08:11:08 PM »
this is also relevant, although my anecdotal experience is that as latinos integrate into american society, they become increasingly racialized.

https://twitter.com/wesyang/status/1308814601107243009
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« Reply #81 on: September 23, 2020, 08:38:25 PM »
I still can't believe that guy's name is Perry Bacon Jr.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #82 on: September 24, 2020, 10:39:01 PM »
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #84 on: September 25, 2020, 09:16:06 AM »
Maybe the experience of seeing more billionaires in the world serves as an in your face reminder to middle class pubs that they don't want the government taking from the billions that they themselves will have one day in the future.

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« Reply #85 on: September 25, 2020, 09:09:12 PM »
You surprised?

the racial part, no.  the deregulation part, yes.
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« Reply #86 on: September 29, 2020, 12:59:56 AM »
with regard to this and the discussion on another thread, i think people do not completely grasp the impact of this.  it is not just that dems are less likely to hold a majority, it is that anytime that they do hold a majority it is with multiple senators beholden to republican leaning electorates.

i'll also add that dems trying to reform senate rules to ease passing legislation in the next two years should consider that in so doing, they'd be reducing the power of the minority power in the only government body they are unlikely to control in the near and intermediate future.

https://twitter.com/baseballot/status/1310792041060802561
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« Reply #87 on: October 01, 2020, 09:24:07 PM »
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #88 on: October 05, 2020, 07:14:10 PM »
i believe that makes sd goEMAW's most powerful voter in 2020.

https://twitter.com/craig_schwerin/status/1313270523644829697
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« Reply #89 on: October 05, 2020, 07:57:45 PM »
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« Reply #90 on: October 05, 2020, 08:21:22 PM »
a chart showing the electoral college leverage of a vote in different states/districts.  nebraska 2 was third behind wisconsin and pennsylvania.
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #92 on: October 08, 2020, 08:50:42 PM »
https://twitter.com/rcbregman/status/1314214046560739328

So are you changing your opinion of UBI or am I misunderstanding your view? You lost your crap at Markey proposing a handout for a fraction of that amount.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #93 on: October 08, 2020, 08:57:29 PM »
https://twitter.com/rcbregman/status/1314214046560739328
Hasn't study after study shown straight cash to be the most effective anti-poverty measure?

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #94 on: October 08, 2020, 09:01:01 PM »
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All 115 participants, ranging in age between 19 and 64, had been homeless for at least six months and were not struggling with serious substance use or mental health issues.

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« Reply #95 on: October 08, 2020, 09:26:01 PM »
So are you changing your opinion of UBI or am I misunderstanding your view? You lost your crap at Markey proposing a handout for a fraction of that amount.

i've been a proponent of some forms of what could be called a ubi for years.
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« Reply #96 on: October 08, 2020, 09:26:53 PM »
Hasn't study after study shown straight cash to be the most effective anti-poverty measure?

i think the data are a little messier than that, but basically.
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« Reply #97 on: October 08, 2020, 09:26:56 PM »
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All 115 participants, ranging in age between 19 and 64, had been homeless for at least six months and were not struggling with serious substance use or mental health issues.
That's not exactly rare, depending on the source. Tons of homeless are just people that can't afford housing. And of course homelessness can make a minor mental health issue way more serious.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #98 on: October 08, 2020, 09:27:03 PM »
https://twitter.com/rcbregman/status/1314214046560739328
Hasn't study after study shown straight cash to be the most effective anti-poverty measure?

So it’s effective bc the shelter system wasted a lot of money?  Makes sense.

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« Reply #99 on: October 08, 2020, 09:28:16 PM »
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All 115 participants, ranging in age between 19 and 64, had been homeless for at least six months and were not struggling with serious substance use or mental health issues.

fair point.
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