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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #100 on: October 01, 2020, 09:24:07 PM »
yes.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #101 on: October 05, 2020, 07:14:10 PM »
i believe that makes sd goEMAW's most powerful voter in 2020.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #102 on: October 05, 2020, 07:57:45 PM »
What was it

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« Reply #103 on: October 05, 2020, 08:21:22 PM »
a chart showing the electoral college leverage of a vote in different states/districts.  nebraska 2 was third behind wisconsin and pennsylvania.
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« Reply #104 on: October 08, 2020, 08:11:52 PM »
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #105 on: October 08, 2020, 08:50:42 PM »

So are you changing your opinion of UBI or am I misunderstanding your view? You lost your crap at Markey proposing a handout for a fraction of that amount.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #106 on: October 08, 2020, 08:57:29 PM »
Hasn't study after study shown straight cash to be the most effective anti-poverty measure?

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #107 on: October 08, 2020, 09:01:01 PM »
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All 115 participants, ranging in age between 19 and 64, had been homeless for at least six months and were not struggling with serious substance use or mental health issues.

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« Reply #108 on: October 08, 2020, 09:26:01 PM »
So are you changing your opinion of UBI or am I misunderstanding your view? You lost your crap at Markey proposing a handout for a fraction of that amount.

i've been a proponent of some forms of what could be called a ubi for years.
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« Reply #109 on: October 08, 2020, 09:26:53 PM »
Hasn't study after study shown straight cash to be the most effective anti-poverty measure?

i think the data are a little messier than that, but basically.
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« Reply #110 on: October 08, 2020, 09:26:56 PM »
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All 115 participants, ranging in age between 19 and 64, had been homeless for at least six months and were not struggling with serious substance use or mental health issues.
That's not exactly rare, depending on the source. Tons of homeless are just people that can't afford housing. And of course homelessness can make a minor mental health issue way more serious.

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« Reply #111 on: October 08, 2020, 09:27:03 PM »
Hasn't study after study shown straight cash to be the most effective anti-poverty measure?

So it’s effective bc the shelter system wasted a lot of money?  Makes sense.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #112 on: October 08, 2020, 09:28:16 PM »
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All 115 participants, ranging in age between 19 and 64, had been homeless for at least six months and were not struggling with serious substance use or mental health issues.

fair point.
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #113 on: October 08, 2020, 09:37:29 PM »
Michigancat thinks he’s living in 3020 with his ideas.  Wait til he hears about communism, the govt literally provides you with anything you could ever need.  It is lit as crap and everybody has a good time. 

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #114 on: October 08, 2020, 09:49:33 PM »
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All 115 participants, ranging in age between 19 and 64, had been homeless for at least six months and were not struggling with serious substance use or mental health issues.
That's not exactly rare, depending on the source. Tons of homeless are just people that can't afford housing. And of course homelessness can make a minor mental health issue way more serious.

I should probs read the article before I comment, but I was wondering what the housing situation was there (I assume they had access to affordable housing if the results were really good).

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #115 on: October 08, 2020, 10:21:03 PM »


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All 115 participants, ranging in age between 19 and 64, had been homeless for at least six months and were not struggling with serious substance use or mental health issues.
That's not exactly rare, depending on the source. Tons of homeless are just people that can't afford housing. And of course homelessness can make a minor mental health issue way more serious.

I should probs read the article before I comment, but I was wondering what the housing situation was there (I assume they had access to affordable housing if the results were really good).

I don't know how Canada handles affordable housing but I do know Vancouver ain't cheap

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #116 on: October 08, 2020, 11:32:46 PM »
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All 115 participants, ranging in age between 19 and 64, had been homeless for at least six months and were not struggling with serious substance use or mental health issues.
That's not exactly rare, depending on the source. Tons of homeless are just people that can't afford housing. And of course homelessness can make a minor mental health issue way more serious.

Sure, and for that type of homeless, this cash injection worked well.  I'm not surprised.  Now, on to addressing the more difficult problem.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #117 on: October 08, 2020, 11:47:08 PM »
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All 115 participants, ranging in age between 19 and 64, had been homeless for at least six months and were not struggling with serious substance use or mental health issues.
That's not exactly rare, depending on the source. Tons of homeless are just people that can't afford housing. And of course homelessness can make a minor mental health issue way more serious.

Sure, and for that type of homeless, this cash injection worked well.  I'm not surprised.  Now, on to addressing the more difficult problem.

I don't think the findings of this program are insignificant or obvious to most people even with the population that participated, but OK

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #118 on: October 17, 2020, 08:50:29 AM »
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Kumar: I think that in Florida it’s going to be neck and neck, but I think Biden is leading with the Latino community. In Texas, Houston has been flooding, and there are droughts all over. These are things that are very aligned with the progressive agenda. And I can share with you that Beto O’Rourke is about to release some numbers: He and four other organizations have collectively registered 145,000 folks. Voto Latino by itself has registered over 201,000 folks in Texas. [In 2018,] O’Rourke lost by less than 210,000 votes. And collectively, we will have registered more than 340,000 new voters. Together, we have exceeded his margin of loss. The Texas state House itself is very close to flipping this year. And if it flips—with the implications for redistricting—Texas would no longer be an artificially red state.

Some bold talk there.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/10/17/voto-latino-interview-2020-election-429857


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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #120 on: October 22, 2020, 10:03:33 AM »
This is a great (non) answer, politically. Justified since it's regarding a big, complex issue. And it doesn't commit him to anything right now.

Republicans have been willing to pay an electoral price for installing their judges. A case could be made that Democrats should go ahead and let them pay that price without potentially incurring one of their own by expanding the Supreme Court.


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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #121 on: October 22, 2020, 04:45:25 PM »
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Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said Thursday morning that he didn’t know “anything about it.” Informed of the parameters, he said: “There’s no reason to oppose it.”

“I’m sure that there are those that say, ‘We don’t need a commission, we know what to do.’ He’s a thoughtful person, he’s served as the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee,” Durbin said of Biden. “He’s trying to find a reasonable way to get people to talk to [one] another.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/22/biden-supreme-court-commission-response-431302

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #122 on: October 22, 2020, 07:41:05 PM »
the shift from 'pub to dem of well educated voters gets more attention, but this is probably more important.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #123 on: October 22, 2020, 07:43:21 PM »
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #124 on: October 22, 2020, 08:25:03 PM »
the shift from 'pub to dem of well educated voters gets more attention, but this is probably more important.


I'd be willing to bet that black and Latino males are trending more conservative as black women and Latinas are trending more liberally. I obviously don't have data that shows this but colloquially it seems black men are becoming more conservative the more the patriarchy has collapsed.