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we understand it better now that the american century is over and some of us sound more and more like serbs.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #76 on: August 18, 2020, 04:41:07 PM »
people really hate hillary clinton.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #77 on: August 18, 2020, 04:43:10 PM »
Hate her entire guts


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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #78 on: August 18, 2020, 07:32:12 PM »
good skills outta representative lamb here.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #79 on: August 18, 2020, 07:43:20 PM »
LOL also wow @ having Shakir and Tanden on the same thing. I'll have to read it later

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #80 on: August 21, 2020, 06:13:13 PM »
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #81 on: August 21, 2020, 08:39:09 PM »
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Last month, Biden signaled an openness to ending the 60-vote filibuster rule, a practice President Barack Obama recently called a “Jim Crow relic.”
“The filibuster is gone,” said Harry Reid, the influential former Senate majority leader and a friend of Biden. “It’s not a question of if, it’s a question of when it’s going to go … Next year at this time, it will be gone.”


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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #82 on: August 24, 2020, 08:55:22 AM »
Although Republicans aren't always saying the same sorts of things they have over the past 30-40 years, I think there are PLENTY of general similarities between then and now. For example, they're concerned more with what they perceive benefits themselves personally than with anything else. They're very concerned with what they perceive to be people getting more than their fair share or what they're entitled. In one sense or another, they believe that whites are superior to non-whites and that men are superior to women. They're pro rich people. They're reluctant to change (they are the conservative party, after all). And so on.

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With Election Day just a few months away, I was genuinely surprised, in the course of recent conversations with a great many Republicans, at their inability to articulate a purpose, a designation, a raison d'être for their party.


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« Reply #83 on: August 24, 2020, 11:32:17 AM »
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“Trump’s party...represents no detailed vision for governing. Filling the vacuum is a lazy, identity-based populism. ‘Owning the libs and pissing off the media,’ shrugs Brendan Buck, a longtime senior congressional aide. ‘That’s what we believe in now.’”

This aligns pretty well with what we see posted here tbh.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #84 on: September 02, 2020, 10:38:07 PM »

Kinda reminded me of the above tweet. Well makes sense Oren was in the Atlantic article. Better or worse than raising the minimum wage?

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One of the policies he proposes is a wage subsidy for low-income workers—hardly standard Republican fare. The idea is that the government would provide a supplementary payment for each hour worked by a low-wage employee, based on a target hourly wage. The wage subsidy is, in a way, the opposite of a payroll tax.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #85 on: September 03, 2020, 08:44:46 AM »
That's worse than a minimum wage increase.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #86 on: September 03, 2020, 09:10:18 AM »
I was originally thinking it sounded better, but it's hard to compare without knowing the intended funding mechanism. I guess it depends on if you think some jobs should be automated away on some level (and govt intervention like this could just artificially keep people doing those jobs). At least that's where my head goes thinking about it.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #87 on: September 03, 2020, 09:46:58 AM »
Trump campaign's big law and order message is arguably not working. Are they going to stick with it or change things up? What else can they try? What are their options?

I don't think it will be a big message, but I'd guess we'll hear more about Burisma.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #88 on: September 09, 2020, 08:41:33 PM »
this is at least somewhat, a worldwide trend.  but the speed with which it reached breaking point and rolled on past in the united states under trump is still hard to appreciate.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #89 on: September 12, 2020, 06:42:35 PM »
this is pretty amazing.  the dog that caught the car.



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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #90 on: September 16, 2020, 08:02:34 PM »
probably the most important question in u.s. politics is if these voters stick with dems for 2022.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #91 on: September 21, 2020, 11:44:51 PM »
candidate effects probably make this data useless, but it could be an interesting natural experiment.

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« Reply #92 on: September 23, 2020, 08:06:08 PM »
this is an interesting dynamic.  not likely to be of much immediate import, but farther out, it could.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #93 on: September 23, 2020, 08:11:08 PM »
this is also relevant, although my anecdotal experience is that as latinos integrate into american society, they become increasingly racialized.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #94 on: September 23, 2020, 08:38:25 PM »
I still can't believe that guy's name is Perry Bacon Jr.
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #95 on: September 24, 2020, 10:39:01 PM »
unfortunate response.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #96 on: September 24, 2020, 11:17:37 PM »
unfortunate response.


You surprised?

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #97 on: September 25, 2020, 09:16:06 AM »
Maybe the experience of seeing more billionaires in the world serves as an in your face reminder to middle class pubs that they don't want the government taking from the billions that they themselves will have one day in the future.

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« Reply #98 on: September 25, 2020, 09:09:12 PM »
You surprised?

the racial part, no.  the deregulation part, yes.
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #99 on: September 29, 2020, 12:59:56 AM »
with regard to this and the discussion on another thread, i think people do not completely grasp the impact of this.  it is not just that dems are less likely to hold a majority, it is that anytime that they do hold a majority it is with multiple senators beholden to republican leaning electorates.

i'll also add that dems trying to reform senate rules to ease passing legislation in the next two years should consider that in so doing, they'd be reducing the power of the minority power in the only government body they are unlikely to control in the near and intermediate future.

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