The Trump Presidency

[cfbandyman]

Will crash the grid hard as all their big beautiful gas plants are still years from coming online (and most turbine suppliers are bought out completely for years). You can put up solar like it's going out of style to at least get some something. It's all stupid.

[sonofdaxjones]

Our energy creation trajectory is currently no where close to meeting the demand that's starring us right in the face.

All smart and intelligent people understand this (so that of course excludes idiots like @Stupid Fitz).

Even worse - #blueanon SFB's want to wreck thousands upon thousands of acres of land with solar panels and the like.

[Dugout DickStone]

Our energy creation trajectory is currently no where close to meeting the demand that's starring us right in the face.

All smart and intelligent people understand this (so that of course excludes idiots like @Stupid Fitz).

Even worse - #blueanon SFB's want to wreck thousands upon thousands of acres of land with solar panels and the like.

lol, what?

[sonofdaxjones]

Our energy creation trajectory is currently no where close to meeting the demand that's starring us right in the face.

All smart and intelligent people understand this (so that of course excludes idiots like @Stupid Fitz).

Even worse - #blueanon SFB's want to wreck thousands upon thousands of acres of land with solar panels and the like.

lol, what?

Where do you think they put huge solar farms dug?

[CNS]

It there is one thing we have, it's land.  Also, the idea of this admin giving one crap about wrecking land is max LOL.   

[sonofdaxjones]

There's more than ample information out there discussing how they're building solar farms on fertile farm land.

I just read and article where a not very smart farmer didn't realize that his lease of 1200 allowed the solar company to overlay 1,200 acres of great farm land with a sand that will ensure the land never grows another thing without extensive rework.

But at the core of the issue is the fact that we do not currently have enough power production to meet our demand.

So if you want to believe that renewables are going to meet that demand - I'll just step aside and let your dipshittery shine through on this blog.

[Stupid Fitz]

It there is one thing we have, it's land.  Also, the idea of this admin giving one crap about wrecking land is max LOL.   

Yep, and it's such an idiotic talking point. Its pretty cool that giant machines that drill into the earth and inject chemicals into the ground to pull out millions of gallons of a substance that then  goes to a different spot via trucks and pipes and then goes to different spots via trucks and pipes and is then burned into the air totally doesn't take up or harm any land.

I would respect them much more if they would just say, "oil companies give us more money".

[sonofdaxjones]

Post above is from someone who clearly doesn't understand the copious level of natural resources it takes to produce the mechanisms of "green energy" production platforms.

We won't even get into the aftermath of when thousands, collectively millions of solar panels and wind turbines reach the end of their useful life and what some people are doing with them (or not doing with them) when that happens now.

Let's just say . . . not real green . . .

Keep in mind, these are the same people who think its perfectly acceptable to take down thousands upon thousands of acres of forests - and place "green energy" production in place of the trees that once stood there (as I have documented on this blog on multiple occasions)

[Institutional Control]

I still can't believe this board blew up a nice thing over politics. Astonishing what Trump has done to fellow cats who use to literally roast people IRL all the time on here, for 30 clicks a day.

Go woke, go broke.

[Stupid Fitz]

You guys aren’t going to believe me this but….

Text of the US-EU trade deal is out: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/08/joint-statement-on-a-united-states-european-union-framework-on-an-agreement-on-reciprocal-fair-and-balanced-trade/

The most important thing is what's not there. Trump had boasted "They gave me $600 billion, and that’s a gift." But guess what? They didn't. He didn't get a penny.

[Dugout DickStone]

Our energy creation trajectory is currently no where close to meeting the demand that's starring us right in the face.

All smart and intelligent people understand this (so that of course excludes idiots like @Stupid Fitz).

Even worse - #blueanon SFB's want to wreck thousands upon thousands of acres of land with solar panels and the like.

lol, what?

Where do you think they put huge solar farms dug?

places where no one else wants to put anything

[LickNeckey]

I would say feedlots and parking lots would be a reasonable start

[cfbandyman]

Deserts, empty lots, top of roofs, parking lots, land famers are willing to sell. It's not like they're kicking anyone out to do it. Dax acts like it's taking land to do it. Height of stupidity, but what lese you'd expect from this blog's jester.

[mocat]

I would say feedlots and parking lots would be a reasonable start

parking lots are awesome bc they also shade the vehicles

[star seed 7]

Thankfully non-renewable energy has no environmental or land concerns

[Stupid Fitz]

Our energy creation trajectory is currently no where close to meeting the demand that's starring us right in the face.

All smart and intelligent people understand this (so that of course excludes idiots like @Stupid Fitz).

Even worse - #blueanon SFB's want to wreck thousands upon thousands of acres of land with solar panels and the like.

lol, what?

Where do you think they put huge solar farms dug?

places where no one else wants to put anything

Rooftops on homes/buildings in sunny states would be a good idea.......or we could make that really difficult for people and cut funding for it. Either way

[sonofdaxjones]

Our energy creation trajectory is currently no where close to meeting the demand that's starring us right in the face.

All smart and intelligent people understand this (so that of course excludes idiots like @Stupid Fitz).

Even worse - #blueanon SFB's want to wreck thousands upon thousands of acres of land with solar panels and the like.

lol, what?

Where do you think they put huge solar farms dug?

places where no one else wants to put anything

But that's not always the case.

[sonofdaxjones]

Deserts, empty lots, top of roofs, parking lots, land famers are willing to sell. It's not like they're kicking anyone out to do it. Dax acts like it's taking land to do it. Height of stupidity, but what lese you'd expect from this blog's jester.

So you want farm land used for solar farms? How positively stupid.

As far as the rest, what in the world are you even talking about? 

Farmland is increasingly being converted to large-scale solar farms, a trend driven by growing demand for renewable energy and economic incentives for landowners, but it sparks debate about the impact on prime agricultural land. While solar farms affect a small fraction of the nation's total farmland, specific regions and prime soils are more affected. The practice of agrivoltaics—co-locating solar panels with agricultural activities like grazing or growing certain crops—offers a potential solution, enabling both energy generation and farming to continue. However, many projects are still being built on land that was previously dedicated solely to crops, leading to concerns about food security and the long-term use of prime agricultural land.

Again . . . if the usual giant derps want to tell themselves that "green" energy is going to meet our needs, then please continue to post so I can  at you.

[sonofdaxjones]

Thankfully non-renewable energy has no environmental or land concerns

Who is saying that non renewables have none of those concerns - lets join together to laugh at them

[Dugout DickStone]

Our energy creation trajectory is currently no where close to meeting the demand that's starring us right in the face.

All smart and intelligent people understand this (so that of course excludes idiots like @Stupid Fitz).

Even worse - #blueanon SFB's want to wreck thousands upon thousands of acres of land with solar panels and the like.

lol, what?

Where do you think they put huge solar farms dug?

places where no one else wants to put anything

But that's not always the case.

I am sure you have many examples of thousands of thousands of acres of valuable land being wrecked with solar panels.

[sonofdaxjones]

Our energy creation trajectory is currently no where close to meeting the demand that's starring us right in the face.

All smart and intelligent people understand this (so that of course excludes idiots like @Stupid Fitz).

Even worse - #blueanon SFB's want to wreck thousands upon thousands of acres of land with solar panels and the like.

lol, what?

Where do you think they put huge solar farms dug?

places where no one else wants to put anything

But that's not always the case.

I am sure you have many examples of thousands of thousands of acres of valuable land being wrecked with solar panels.

Between 2012 and 2020 424K acres of farm and pasture land was converted from ag use to "green" energy production. (USDA)

But again, the primary point is that green energy will not meet our needs.  #blueanongE will do everything they possibly can to avoid talking about the primary point - always have - always will

They'll just grind the eff out some nuanced part of the bigger picture . . . tho. Very ragey these days- very ragey.

[waks]

Deserts, empty lots, top of roofs, parking lots, land famers are willing to sell. It's not like they're kicking anyone out to do it. Dax acts like it's taking land to do it. Height of stupidity, but what lese you'd expect from this blog's jester.

So you want farm land used for solar farms? How positively stupid.

As far as the rest, what in the world are you even talking about? 

Farmland is increasingly being converted to large-scale solar farms, a trend driven by growing demand for renewable energy and economic incentives for landowners, but it sparks debate about the impact on prime agricultural land. While solar farms affect a small fraction of the nation's total farmland, specific regions and prime soils are more affected. The practice of agrivoltaics—co-locating solar panels with agricultural activities like grazing or growing certain crops—offers a potential solution, enabling both energy generation and farming to continue. However, many projects are still being built on land that was previously dedicated solely to crops, leading to concerns about food security and the long-term use of prime agricultural land.

Again . . . if the usual giant derps want to tell themselves that "green" energy is going to meet our needs, then please continue to post so I can  at you.

lmao the non-bolded text betrays your entire point. Also how did you possibly obtain a degree in higher ed without any ability at all to provide or cite sources? To borrow a phrase... 'please don't tell anyone that you went to Kansas State"

[star seed 7]

I think what dax is trying to say is we need to end the private ownership of land

[Dugout DickStone]

Our energy creation trajectory is currently no where close to meeting the demand that's starring us right in the face.

All smart and intelligent people understand this (so that of course excludes idiots like @Stupid Fitz).

Even worse - #blueanon SFB's want to wreck thousands upon thousands of acres of land with solar panels and the like.

lol, what?

Where do you think they put huge solar farms dug?

places where no one else wants to put anything

But that's not always the case.

I am sure you have many examples of thousands of thousands of acres of valuable land being wrecked with solar panels.

Between 2012 and 2020 424K acres of farm and pasture land was converted from ag use to "green" energy production. (USDA)

But again, the primary point is that green energy will not meet our needs.  #blueanongE will do everything they possibly can to avoid talking about the primary point - always have - always will

They'll just grind the eff out some nuanced part of the bigger picture . . . tho. Very ragey these days- very ragey.

the gov should force the owner of the pasture to do what they say.

[sonofdaxjones]

Deserts, empty lots, top of roofs, parking lots, land famers are willing to sell. It's not like they're kicking anyone out to do it. Dax acts like it's taking land to do it. Height of stupidity, but what lese you'd expect from this blog's jester.

So you want farm land used for solar farms? How positively stupid.

As far as the rest, what in the world are you even talking about? 

Farmland is increasingly being converted to large-scale solar farms, a trend driven by growing demand for renewable energy and economic incentives for landowners, but it sparks debate about the impact on prime agricultural land. While solar farms affect a small fraction of the nation's total farmland, specific regions and prime soils are more affected. The practice of agrivoltaics—co-locating solar panels with agricultural activities like grazing or growing certain crops—offers a potential solution, enabling both energy generation and farming to continue. However, many projects are still being built on land that was previously dedicated solely to crops, leading to concerns about food security and the long-term use of prime agricultural land.

Again . . . if the usual giant derps want to tell themselves that "green" energy is going to meet our needs, then please continue to post so I can  at you.

lmao the non-bolded text betrays your entire point. Also how did you possibly obtain a degree in higher ed without any ability at all to provide or cite sources? To borrow a phrase... 'please don't tell anyone that you went to Kansas State"

Waks . . . confused by "However".

It's very very onbrand

I am going to give waks a break because I understand he was just being his usual weirdo ragey stalkerish self