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Quote from: BIG APPLE CAT on March 17, 2021, 03:26:38 PMquantum proactive 2, same slate blue w/ yellow fingertip inserts. Also fun, there was a little 3/4" diameter hole bored out of the side and Tom explained to me that they do that at professional events to check and make sure the ball is legal.Is it still actually a hole (i.e. not filled?)? If so, the USBC outlawed that in the last couple of years.
quantum proactive 2, same slate blue w/ yellow fingertip inserts. Also fun, there was a little 3/4" diameter hole bored out of the side and Tom explained to me that they do that at professional events to check and make sure the ball is legal.
when i was a kid Justin Hromek won the US Open and his local guy was Tom Warren who ran the pro shop where i did saturday morning league and Tom would just hang out in his shop watching the kids bowling so whenever you came in to his shop to get a ball he already knew how you rolled it and where to drill it, anyway one time i was in the market for a ball and he said "oh yeah Justin was in the other day and he decided he didn't want to use this ball anymore, it would probably be good for you" and i was like heck yes and that is still the ball in my bag and i'm worried one of these days i'm going to throw it and its just going to split in half because its so old.
Quote from: DQ12 on March 18, 2021, 09:56:45 AMQuote from: BIG APPLE CAT on March 17, 2021, 03:26:38 PMquantum proactive 2, same slate blue w/ yellow fingertip inserts. Also fun, there was a little 3/4" diameter hole bored out of the side and Tom explained to me that they do that at professional events to check and make sure the ball is legal.Is it still actually a hole (i.e. not filled?)? If so, the USBC outlawed that in the last couple of years.yeah seemed kinda weird at the time, but it never seemed to cause a problem. Just found it in the garage:
That confused me yesterday. The little stat box at the bottom indicates the PBA tour average is 0.8%. If that means how often one picks up the spare in that situation, that’s 1 out of 125, which isn’t that mind-blowing to see happen. Maybe it meant how often a first roll results in a 7-10 split?D-rew? Tin hat guy?
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2021, 06:46:19 PMThat confused me yesterday. The little stat box at the bottom indicates the PBA tour average is 0.8%. If that means how often one picks up the spare in that situation, that’s 1 out of 125, which isn’t that mind-blowing to see happen. Maybe it meant how often a first roll results in a 7-10 split?D-rew? Tin hat guy?Only the 4th 7-10 spare conversion in the history of televised PBA bowling.
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2021, 06:46:19 PMThat confused me yesterday. The little stat box at the bottom indicates the PBA tour average is 0.8%. If that means how often one picks up the spare in that situation, that’s 1 out of 125, which isn’t that mind-blowing to see happen. Maybe it meant how often a first roll results in a 7-10 split?D-rew? Tin hat guy?Yeah a few things:1. 7-10 splits are pretty rare, and become extremely rare at the pro level. You just don't see it that often. So not very many opportunities.2. Picking it up is pretty heavily reliant on luck. But obviously have to have the velocity and accuracy to hit the first pin in order to give yourself a chance. A little less than 1 percent at the pro level is about what I'd expect.FUN FACT: The 7-10 split isn't the rarest pickup at the pro level. That distinction belongs to the "Greek Church" leave, where you have either 4-6-7-8-10. Or the 4-6-7-9-10. Basically three on one side, two on the other.http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2015/02/hardest_shot_in_bowling_it_s_not_the_7_10_split_it_s_the_greek_church.html
Quote from: DQ12 on April 13, 2021, 12:18:26 PMQuote from: Trim on April 12, 2021, 06:46:19 PMThat confused me yesterday. The little stat box at the bottom indicates the PBA tour average is 0.8%. If that means how often one picks up the spare in that situation, that’s 1 out of 125, which isn’t that mind-blowing to see happen. Maybe it meant how often a first roll results in a 7-10 split?D-rew? Tin hat guy?Yeah a few things:1. 7-10 splits are pretty rare, and become extremely rare at the pro level. You just don't see it that often. So not very many opportunities.2. Picking it up is pretty heavily reliant on luck. But obviously have to have the velocity and accuracy to hit the first pin in order to give yourself a chance. A little less than 1 percent at the pro level is about what I'd expect.FUN FACT: The 7-10 split isn't the rarest pickup at the pro level. That distinction belongs to the "Greek Church" leave, where you have either 4-6-7-8-10. Or the 4-6-7-9-10. Basically three on one side, two on the other.http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2015/02/hardest_shot_in_bowling_it_s_not_the_7_10_split_it_s_the_greek_church.htmlSo what was the order of oddities among: a pro having a 7-10 split, succeding at the 7-10 split, or that this happened to be a TV event?
watched some youtube video where they made a bowling robot so they could try to figure out the science behind picking up a 7-10 and they concluded that there is no reliable way to do it because the only way to pick it up is for the pin to careen off one of the surrounding surfaces so literally the only way to pick it up is to get a lucky bounce.
Quote from: BIG APPLE CAT on April 14, 2021, 09:13:07 AMwatched some youtube video where they made a bowling robot so they could try to figure out the science behind picking up a 7-10 and they concluded that there is no reliable way to do it because the only way to pick it up is for the pin to careen off one of the surrounding surfaces so literally the only way to pick it up is to get a lucky bounce.That wouldn't be luck, it'd be hitting the pin at the right angle, speed, etc. to create that bounce.
If one could throw it right, like as right and as consistently as the robot, there’d be no luck. Everything else involved is static, the only variable is the throw. Be as good as the robot, no self-limitations.
Quote from: Trim on April 14, 2021, 02:58:17 PMIf one could throw it right, like as right and as consistently as the robot, there’d be no luck. Everything else involved is static, the only variable is the throw. Be as good as the robot, no self-limitations.Did you read BAC's post? The robot couldn't pick it up every time. My guess is because of extremely slight variance in pin positioning from the pinsetter and oil conditions on the lane.