Author Topic: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can.... (Read 4893010 times)

SwiftCat · « **Reply #18875 on:** May 09, 2012, 01:31:26 AM »

Quote from: WildcatNkilt on May 08, 2012, 03:31:51 PM

I just want everyone to know how excited I'm going to be during Conference Realignment 2012.

It's like when you're playing football at recess and some more people walk towards the field wanting to play too. Right now it's 8vs8 but we decide it's ok to go 11vs11. Quite a few people walked towards the field so not everybody is going to be able to play. We want the best players for sure, but ultimately don't care because we're already playing and having fun...and happy we're not the ones that will get stuck playing tetherball with the uncoordinated kids. We once thought we were going to be one of the kids playing tetherball, but puberty hit at the right time and are now playing tight end on the shirts team.

I just want this to get the credit it deserves.

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #18876 on:** May 09, 2012, 01:35:12 AM »

Yes, it was magnificent.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #18877 on:** May 09, 2012, 06:45:41 AM »

That was fantastic.

davegladow · « **Reply #18878 on:** May 09, 2012, 01:22:41 PM »

New ACC deal is $17 million per team.

CNS · « **Reply #18879 on:** May 09, 2012, 01:26:03 PM »

So, is $3M worth all the extra travel?

Katpappy · « **Reply #18880 on:** May 09, 2012, 01:28:15 PM »

Quote from: davegladow on May 09, 2012, 01:22:41 PM

New ACC deal is $17 million per team.

Fantastic, now we're in bussssinessss! There will be Indians and Tigers running around here pretty soon. Just can't wait.

wabash909 · « **Reply #18881 on:** May 09, 2012, 01:41:16 PM »

Welp, that was fun.

Panjandrum · « **Reply #18882 on:** May 09, 2012, 01:50:38 PM »

This is all three tiers. They cannot monetize that there like they can here.

$3 million is just the guaranteed shortfall between existing contracts. That's not including what they may be leaving on the table here by simply joining and THEN monetizing their Tier 3. If we were to create some form of network that would bundle with the LHN (which is rumored), they are leaving, maybe, $10 million or more on the table every single year.

Initial feedback from FSU fans on this deal is, "That's all you got?"

This was not seen as positive for FSU.

Houstoncat93 · « **Reply #18883 on:** May 09, 2012, 01:52:02 PM »

Quote from: CNS Casey on May 09, 2012, 01:26:03 PM

So, is $3M worth all the extra travel?

Its much more than 3M........if they jump to the big 12 they can also sell their tier3 games

MadCat · « **Reply #18884 on:** May 09, 2012, 01:59:04 PM »

FWIW, I will haul Clemson's teams around for $3 million.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #18885 on:** May 09, 2012, 02:00:06 PM »

Quote from: GoodForAnother on May 09, 2012, 12:02:03 AM

props to Scary Smart for putting tiger board in a readable format

Seriously. That's like cold fusion IMO

ben ji · « **Reply #18886 on:** May 09, 2012, 02:04:28 PM »

Quote from: Panjandrum on May 09, 2012, 01:50:38 PM

This is all three tiers. They cannot monetize that there like they can here.

$3 million is just the guaranteed shortfall between existing contracts. That's not including what they may be leaving on the table here by simply joining and THEN monetizing their Tier 3. If we were to create some form of network that would bundle with the LHN (which is rumored), they are leaving, maybe, $10 million or more on the table every single year.

Initial feedback from FSU fans on this deal is, "That's all you got?"

This was not seen as positive for FSU.

Also dont forget about the new BCS structure that may eliminate AQ status and how that would hurt the ACC

ben ji · « **Reply #18887 on:** May 09, 2012, 02:06:19 PM »

If the ACC doesn't give them a huge disproportionate share, they'd be fools to stay.

Big 12 is at 20
-add 4 if they both come
-add about 2 for the CCG
-and they get to sell their own tier 3 which should be worth at least another 4.

Plus, who know how much more for bowls, postseason playoff share, and higher ticket sales. (FSU's having problems selling tickets, which shouldn't be a surprise given who they have to host)

They'd get at least an extra 13 million for jumping to the Big 12. More than likely with the extra stuff they'd double their money.

Panjandrum · « **Reply #18888 on:** May 09, 2012, 02:35:59 PM »

Read the comments at Tomahawk Nation:

http://www.tomahawknation.com/2012/5/9/3009906/acc-espn-extend-tv-deal#storyjump

Also, since this is for all three tiers, this means that, currently, the Big 12 and the SEC are the only two major conferences that allow schools to retain their own Tier 3 rights.

ohithere Notre Dame.

captaincrap · « **Reply #18889 on:** May 09, 2012, 02:48:01 PM »

Tier 3 rights are a huge untapped revenue source for schools, and they are just now starting to figure that out. West Virginia is putting out their RFP for Tier 3 -- watch the reaction when the $$ they get for it becomes public. With the distribution problem becoming much easier to solve with online portals, pretty much any school stands to make serious cash from it.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #18890 on:** May 09, 2012, 02:49:33 PM »

I'll be interested to see how the ACC tier III deal really plays out, looks like "kinda, sorta" Tier III deal . . . UNC makes $11.1 million a year on their Tier III, you think they're giving that up for some chump change. Not a chance.

pissclams · « **Reply #18891 on:** May 09, 2012, 02:49:56 PM »

Quote from: captaincrap on May 09, 2012, 02:48:01 PM

Tier 3 rights are a huge untapped revenue source for schools, and they are just now starting to figure that out. West Virginia is putting out their RFP for Tier 3 -- watch the reaction when the $$ they get for it becomes public. With the distribution problem becoming much easier to solve with online portals, pretty much any school stands to make serious cash from it.

Tier 3 rights are one thing, Tier 3 content is completely another. as i'm sure you're aware...the rights don't mean crap if you don't have the content.

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #18892 on:** May 09, 2012, 03:18:18 PM »

CC, will the athletic department be releasing figures on how much it made in the first year of KstateHD.tv?

captaincrap · « **Reply #18893 on:** May 09, 2012, 03:22:12 PM »

Quote from: SkinnyBenny on May 09, 2012, 03:18:18 PM

CC, will the athletic department be releasing figures on how much it made in the first year of KstateHD.tv?

Will probably be part of a Tv revenue item in the budget, which would also include Tier 1 & 2 income. Doubt they would make a completely separate line item for it.

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #18894 on:** May 09, 2012, 03:25:08 PM »

Have subscription numbers been better, worse, or about what was expected?

captaincrap · « **Reply #18895 on:** May 09, 2012, 03:32:20 PM »

Quote from: SkinnyBenny on May 09, 2012, 03:25:08 PM

Have subscription numbers been better, worse, or about what was expected?

#1 in CBS network (around 2/3 of BCS schools) in both annual and monthly subscribers. Been very well received. But Tier 3 also includes FSN deal (Ben and Stanbot). So all told its 7 figures of extra revenue.

jmlynch1 · « **Reply #18896 on:** May 09, 2012, 03:42:35 PM »

Quote from: captaincrap on May 09, 2012, 03:32:20 PM

Quote from: SkinnyBenny on May 09, 2012, 03:25:08 PM
Have subscription numbers been better, worse, or about what was expected?

#1 in CBS network (around 2/3 of BCS schools) in both annual and monthly subscribers. Been very well received. But Tier 3 also includes FSN deal (Ben and Stanbot). So all told its 7 figures of extra revenue.

Skipper44 · « **Reply #18897 on:** May 09, 2012, 03:46:18 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on May 09, 2012, 02:49:33 PM

I'll be interested to see how the ACC tier III deal really plays out, looks like "kinda, sorta" Tier III deal . . . UNC makes $11.1 million a year on their Tier III, you think they're giving that up for some chump change. Not a chance.

reportedly, FSU has $6M+/yr deal for radio, coaches shows, and the like but no baseball, basketball or Olympic sports.

I would guess UNC's 11.1 is similar a deal, impressive that UNC can get that much scratch w/o basketball games on tv.

TheHamburglar · « **Reply #18898 on:** May 09, 2012, 03:59:41 PM »

Quote from: Skipper44 on May 09, 2012, 03:46:18 PM

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on May 09, 2012, 02:49:33 PM
I'll be interested to see how the ACC tier III deal really plays out, looks like "kinda, sorta" Tier III deal . . . UNC makes $11.1 million a year on their Tier III, you think they're giving that up for some chump change. Not a chance.
reportedly, FSU has $6M+/yr deal for radio, coaches shows, and the like but no baseball, basketball or Olympic sports.

I would guess UNC's 11.1 is similar a deal, impressive that UNC can get that much scratch w/o basketball games on tv.

Initially I thought "no way that's right." However I just looked at UNC's schedule last year and they only had 1 game not on the CBS or the ESPN networks. Looks like they were able to sell 1 game to something called RSN.

Katpappy · « **Reply #18899 on:** May 09, 2012, 04:13:18 PM »

Quote from: Panjandrum on May 09, 2012, 02:35:59 PM

Read the comments at Tomahawk Nation:

http://www.tomahawknation.com/2012/5/9/3009906/acc-espn-extend-tv-deal#storyjump

Also, since this is for all three tiers, this means that, currently, the Big 12 and the SEC are the only two major conferences that allow schools to retain their own Tier 3 rights.

ohithere Notre Dame.

Pan, with all the things that are happening with Norte Dame and FSU could it be possible we get these two in our fold? Rumors are they both had representatives in Dallas at the Conference meetings.