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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #18900 on: May 09, 2012, 04:13:53 PM »
I'll be interested to see how the ACC tier III deal really plays out, looks like "kinda, sorta" Tier III deal . . . UNC makes $11.1 million a year on their Tier III, you think they're giving that up for some chump change.   Not a chance.
reportedly, FSU has $6M+/yr deal for radio, coaches shows, and the like but no baseball, basketball or Olympic sports. 

I would guess UNC's 11.1 is similar a deal, impressive that UNC can get that much scratch w/o basketball games on tv.

Initially I thought "no way that's right."  However I just looked at UNC's schedule last year and they only had 1 game not on the CBS or the ESPN networks.  Looks like they were able to sell 1 game to something called RSN.

I'm guessing RSN is raycom, apparently swofords kid worked or used to work for raycom and alot of FSU fans are butthurt and think raycom got a sweetheart deal.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #18901 on: May 09, 2012, 04:49:53 PM »
Read the comments at Tomahawk Nation:

http://www.tomahawknation.com/2012/5/9/3009906/acc-espn-extend-tv-deal#storyjump


Also, since this is for all three tiers, this means that, currently, the Big 12 and the SEC are the only two major conferences that allow schools to retain their own Tier 3 rights.

ohithere Notre Dame.   :driving:
Pan, with all the things that are happening with Norte Dame and FSU could it be possible we get these two in our fold?  Rumors are they both had representatives in Dallas at the Conference meetings.

It all depends on the playoff discussions.

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« Reply #18902 on: May 09, 2012, 04:51:09 PM »
George is gettin' excited!
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« Reply #18903 on: May 09, 2012, 04:58:09 PM »
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_fsu/2012/05/acc-extends-espn-tv-deal-what-it-means-for-florida-state.html

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Still, all of those points aside …

While there has been no indication whatsoever (right now, at least) from those in charge at FSU that the move-the-Seminoles-to-the-Big 12 campaign is in full swing, it is becoming ever clearer that it is a conversation worth them having.

And no, a switch to the SEC is not on the table. Although there were conversations, that wasn’t really going to happen last fall when the rumors about an FSU-to-SEC switch began popping up.

All of this is to say, the timing of these conference television deals, in addition to the timing of the news about FSU’s budget shortfall, in addition to the timing of resignations/hirings of various conference presidents, does give credence to the rumors that have persisted at fever pitch in the blogosphere for the past week or so. Will FSU eventually change conferences? Will it not?

Right now, who knows. What is known is that some very important people are beginning to stare down some very important decisions.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #18904 on: May 09, 2012, 04:58:31 PM »
I got a guy on the other line about some white walls

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« Reply #18905 on: May 09, 2012, 05:00:31 PM »
http://acc.blogs.starnewsonline.com/30161/new-acc-tv-deal-is-good-but-is-it-good-enough-to-keep-clemson-fsu-from-leaving/

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Only time will tell, because while it would appear on the surface that the ACC’s new deal will help bring the league into a similar stratosphere as other rival conferences, including the Big 12, its payout is deceiving because of what the league had to give up to get its money.

Unlike the Big 12, which recently agreed to a new contract with ESPN and Fox that will bring in a reported $20 million per school, the ACC did not retain its Tier III media rights as part of the package.

That means it doesn’t have the ability to work out independent deals on games not picked up by ABC, ESPN or any one of their other networks, inventory that could net each school another $1-10 million per year.


In addition, the ACC agreed to play three conference football games per year on Fridays — with Boston College and Syracuse agreeing to host one each – and another during the day on Thanksgiving. The league also gave up the title sponsorship rights to its lucrative men’s basketball tournament to ESPN, meaning that for the first time in its 59-year history, the ACC tournament will have a corporate sponsor in its name.

Yes, this deal is very deceiving.  If I understand all of this correctly, if a school agrees to this deal, they offer their Tier 3 rights to ESPN, and ESPN will reserve the right to put those on their digital platform and/or burn off the remaining, unwanted inventory to Raycom for their own revenue.

So, in other words, to get the $3 million bump per year, they are giving their Tier 3 rights to ESPN so they can re-sell them to Raycom to cover the costs of this increase.

So, 17 million is 17 million.  Unlike us, who will make $20 million plus whatever we get from K-State HD, FSN-KC, etc.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #18906 on: May 09, 2012, 05:09:22 PM »
So what are some good FSU message boards where we can get this snowball rolling downhill just a little bit faster?  You know...poor gas on the fire while it's already burning hot.
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« Reply #18907 on: May 09, 2012, 05:13:28 PM »
poor gas  :frown:
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« Reply #18908 on: May 09, 2012, 05:14:30 PM »
So what are some good FSU message boards where we can get this snowball rolling downhill just a little bit faster?  You know...poor gas on the fire while it's already burning hot.

Tomahawk Nation is the SB Nation site, and they seem to be very well respected. 

You need to be careful at Warchant.com because they were banning people who had non-ACC stances.

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« Reply #18909 on: May 09, 2012, 05:27:12 PM »
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« Reply #18910 on: May 09, 2012, 05:38:47 PM »
So what are some good FSU message boards where we can get this snowball rolling downhill just a little bit faster?  You know...poor gas on the fire while it's already burning hot.

Tomahawk Nation is the SB Nation site, and they seem to be very well respected. 

You need to be careful at Warchant.com because they were banning people who had non-ACC stances.

That is just more of an incentive to go over there, and more validation that the outsiders (Big 12) posting could continue the snowball.
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« Reply #18911 on: May 09, 2012, 05:46:56 PM »
poor gas  :frown:

Oh you got me.  *pour


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Oh btw yes we should all go over to Warchant and bombard them. Maybe we should just post their home football schedule for next year and let it speak for itself.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #18912 on: May 09, 2012, 06:07:53 PM »
Good lord what a trump card to slap mu fans in the face with.

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« Reply #18913 on: May 09, 2012, 06:10:14 PM »
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« Reply #18914 on: May 09, 2012, 06:23:25 PM »
Nice work. So where will Clemson and FSU fall on the fanbase spectrum? I have no prior experience with anybody from either fanbase. Butthurt? Weird racists? Awesome to party with?  :dunno:
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« Reply #18915 on: May 09, 2012, 06:33:03 PM »
Nice work. So where will Clemson and FSU fall on the fanbase spectrum? I have no prior experience with anybody from either fanbase. Butthurt? Weird racists? Awesome to party with?  :dunno:

FSU is one of the top party school with the likes of Arizona St.  Their fillies are always up there in sexiest coeds category (need confirmation from Fanning).
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« Reply #18916 on: May 09, 2012, 06:37:14 PM »
Adding FSU would be a grand slam homerun that clears the fence then smacks a guy hate in his ugly mouth.

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« Reply #18917 on: May 09, 2012, 06:40:38 PM »
New ACC deal is $17 million per team.
Fantastic, now we're in bussssinessss!   There will be Indians and Tigers running around here pretty soon.  Just can't wait. :cheers: :excited:

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« Reply #18918 on: May 09, 2012, 06:46:30 PM »
Warchant.com:  Officially tuckier than GPC.  They just edited out the usage of "sucks" in my post.   :lol:
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« Reply #18919 on: May 09, 2012, 06:50:11 PM »
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« Reply #18920 on: May 09, 2012, 07:07:45 PM »
:lol:

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How much money does FSU realize on the academic side from being in the ACC? I think everyone is overlooking this part of conferences.

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« Reply #18921 on: May 09, 2012, 07:10:17 PM »
Chip Brown chimes in....

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1363940
Here's a nice little nugget from Chip Brown... :crossfingers:

That leaves some interesting candidates who could probably benefit from having the ability to launch their own network. The most likely to benefit from such an opportunity would be Notre Dame and Florida State.

The Big 12 has repeatedly indicated to Notre Dame it could bring its non-football sports to the Big 12 and keep football as independent, allowing the Irish to keep their football contract with NBC while launching a Tier 3 network.
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« Reply #18922 on: May 09, 2012, 07:17:28 PM »
Nice work. So where will Clemson and FSU fall on the fanbase spectrum? I have no prior experience with anybody from either fanbase. Butthurt? Weird racists? Awesome to party with?  :dunno:
That depends... are they part of the Big XII, then yes, they're some partying mother humpers.  :emawkid:
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« Reply #18923 on: May 09, 2012, 07:56:47 PM »
The Big 12 has repeatedly indicated to Notre Dame it could bring its non-football sports to the Big 12 and keep football as independent, allowing the Irish to keep their football contract with NBC while launching a Tier 3 network.

No, eff that, all or nothing.

How is Tallahassee? I bet it's exactly like Baton Rouge. But I do know that George Clinton lives there while not touring, so that's a plus. OH MAN can you imagine the domestic disputes that will arise between WRFF and MrsWRFF if their two alma maters should join the same league?!?
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« Reply #18924 on: May 09, 2012, 07:59:52 PM »
i'd rather leave FSU in the ACC and let them die a slow, painful, death


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