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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3850 on: November 12, 2018, 10:13:14 AM »
Apparently our own Kansas State University refutes the science that wind energy proliferation will actually warm the earth via air flow disruption.

https://www.k-state.edu/media/newsreleases/2018-11/westar111218.html
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3851 on: November 13, 2018, 10:24:43 AM »
The Sun, not cooperating to advance the agenda.

https://spaceweatherarchive.com/2018/09/27/the-chill-of-solar-minimum/
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3853 on: November 14, 2018, 10:47:44 AM »
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/environment/sd-me-climate-study-error-20181113-story.html

Remember, finding major flaws in widely heralded scientific studies is in fact . . . anti-science, according to some on this blog.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3855 on: November 15, 2018, 08:03:34 AM »
Always appreciate takes that imply that the only way climate changes is because of AGW. 

Apparently they’ve never heard of natural variability.   

Some in the MSM have done a total 180 on California.   Just a couple of years ago they told us the historical facts that droughts in the region have in some cases  lasted decades even centuries over the course of history.   Now it’s all AGW fault. 

The Agenda never sleeps. 
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3856 on: November 17, 2018, 02:14:30 PM »
Good thing not everyone is like Dax and says “Welp it’s too expensive might as well not even try and make it better and cheaper burn baby burn”.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/its-now-cheaper-to-build-a-new-wind-farm-than-to-keep-a-coal-plant-running/

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3857 on: November 22, 2018, 06:57:24 AM »
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3859 on: November 23, 2018, 11:14:32 PM »
I have never understood how if they can't accurately forecast the weather a month out how we're supposed to believe they can predict the climate 50-100 years in the future.

It's a blatant attempt to scare folks into giving up their money and control to big daddy government to save the day. And the leftist masses are just ignorant enough to fall for it.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3860 on: November 23, 2018, 11:23:06 PM »
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3861 on: November 23, 2018, 11:24:27 PM »
I've frequently said that the warmer temperatures of the Holocene Climatic Optimum of about 9,000 years ago were likely necessary to make civilization possible. Without those higher temperatures, it would have been more difficult for mankind to settle down and become farmers instead of being nomadic hunters. The more realistic projections for Global Warming would bring the temperature up close to the Climatic Optimum in maybe 100 years.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3862 on: November 24, 2018, 05:27:40 AM »
yeah, you won't shut up about the rough ridin' holocene climatic optimum.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3863 on: November 24, 2018, 12:12:33 PM »
this is interesting because I just watched a video on the PETM

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3864 on: November 26, 2018, 03:23:14 PM »
dax has posted on here that many scientists participate in the global warming mythology because of profit motive--there is a lot of money to be made by claiming the Earth is warming and pollution by people is the cause because the government provides lots of "green funding" and journals like "Nature" will dole out the cash and prestige.  Not clear why academic journals and government grants would have more resources than the array of multi-national corporations that benefit from our current energy consumption but sure, let's stipulate that.

Now, how can we explain how the multi-national energy extraction giants behaved with their own internal research?

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3865 on: November 29, 2018, 09:39:39 AM »

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3867 on: December 13, 2018, 08:46:19 AM »
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The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3868 on: December 16, 2018, 12:12:12 AM »
I think the climate seems normal, nothing going on here, nothing at all. -Dax-FSD

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/11/climate/arctic-warming.amp.html

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3869 on: December 27, 2018, 04:18:14 PM »
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3870 on: January 08, 2019, 05:17:57 PM »
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This makes scientific inquiry prone to the eternal rules of human social life: deference to the charismatic, herding towards majority opinion, punishment for deviance, and intense discomfort with admitting to error. Of course, such tendencies are precisely what the scientific method was invented to correct for, and over the long run, it does a good job of it.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3871 on: January 11, 2019, 10:06:04 AM »
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3872 on: January 11, 2019, 10:18:04 AM »

SysWhack-A-Doo . . . has science and technology changed any over the last 137 years?

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3873 on: January 11, 2019, 10:32:27 AM »
Yikes, very informative sys
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3874 on: January 11, 2019, 10:46:02 AM »
No, science and technology have not changed over 137 years.