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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3875 on: January 11, 2019, 11:22:41 AM »
https://www.pv-tech.org/news/china-putting-major-breaks-on-solar-deployment-as-new-market-rules-imposed

But everybody else, sign up for that Paris thing and . . . eff off! (China)
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3876 on: January 11, 2019, 08:30:59 PM »
https://www.pv-tech.org/news/china-putting-major-breaks-on-solar-deployment-as-new-market-rules-imposed

But everybody else, sign up for that Paris thing and . . . eff off! (China)

Dax, the article you posted is from June of last year. The below link, China reveals new subsidy-free solar and wind policy, is from yesterday and from the same website.

https://www.pv-tech.org/news/china-reveals-new-subsidy-free-solar-and-wind-policy

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« Reply #3877 on: January 11, 2019, 08:33:41 PM »
China also just said that all non fossil fuel investment must meet a mandate of being cheaper than coal.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2018/06/05/why-did-china-tap-the-brakes-on-its-solar-program/amp/
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« Reply #3878 on: January 12, 2019, 07:35:40 AM »
Are you like one of those AI twitter handles?

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3879 on: January 12, 2019, 08:33:12 AM »
https://www.pv-tech.org/news/china-putting-major-breaks-on-solar-deployment-as-new-market-rules-imposed

But everybody else, sign up for that Paris thing and . . . eff off! (China)

Dax, the article you posted is from June of last year. The below link, China reveals new subsidy-free solar and wind policy, is from yesterday and from the same website.

https://www.pv-tech.org/news/china-reveals-new-subsidy-free-solar-and-wind-policy

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See here’s the thing, we don’t know the optimal amount of years old an article should be.  As long as it fits the “this is all a hoax” agenda it’s fair game.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3880 on: January 12, 2019, 08:47:27 AM »
The adults are talking here The Big Tuck, run along. 
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3881 on: January 19, 2019, 01:32:35 PM »
Here you go Dax, even the climate change deniers are publishing articles about climate change being real.

https://www.foxnews.com/science/antarctic-ice-is-melting-six-times-faster-than-it-did-in-the-1980s-and-could-destabilize-glaciers

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3882 on: January 21, 2019, 07:01:09 PM »
 :lol: Sure thing The Big Tuck.   Have they recently discovered substantially higher volcanic activity under the Antarctic, many times greater than what was known before?   

In other news, 1,500 or so private jets descending on the DAVOS conference, guzzling millions of gallons fossil fuels and spewing tons of carbon into the atmosphere.   While there, their many luxury vehicles will guzzle additional tens of thousands of gallons of fossil fuels, and their luxury accommodations require massive amounts of energy, almost exclusively carbon based in order to provide power and warmth.   Not to mention the agriculture onslaught of carbon needed to provide the many thousands of luxury meals featuring some of the most carbon intensive food products known to the world today. 

One of the primary topics . . . man made climate change. 





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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3883 on: January 21, 2019, 08:44:05 PM »
:lol: Sure thing The Big Tuck.   Have they recently discovered substantially higher volcanic activity under the Antarctic, many times greater than what was known before?   

In other news, 1,500 or so private jets descending on the DAVOS conference, guzzling millions of gallons fossil fuels and spewing tons of carbon into the atmosphere.   While there, their many luxury vehicles will guzzle additional tens of thousands of gallons of fossil fuels, and their luxury accommodations require massive amounts of energy, almost exclusively carbon based in order to provide power and warmth.   Not to mention the agriculture onslaught of carbon needed to provide the many thousands of luxury meals featuring some of the most carbon intensive food products known to the world today. 

One of the primary topics . . . man made climate change.

What makes you believe that the vast majority of people going to the WEF represent or speak on behalf of people who *actually* care about the environment?

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« Reply #3884 on: January 21, 2019, 08:45:40 PM »
it's a lovely little hypocrisy strawman that you've made

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« Reply #3885 on: January 22, 2019, 11:03:55 AM »
Gee trey, I just re-read what I posted and no where in there did I say any of the attendees spoke for anyone.

But a simple cursory review of the attendee list shows a number of people who have told us that we're all gonna die (except them) if we don't quit using fossil fuels, for example - David Attenborough.



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« Reply #3886 on: January 22, 2019, 12:41:37 PM »
Gee trey, I just re-read what I posted and no where in there did I say any of the attendees spoke for anyone.

But a simple cursory review of the attendee list shows a number of people who have told us that we're all gonna die (except them) if we don't quit using fossil fuels, for example - David Attenborough.

Can you please confirm for me that David Attenborough is chartering a private jet to Davos? Thank you.

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« Reply #3887 on: January 22, 2019, 01:37:55 PM »
Gee trey, I just re-read what I posted and no where in there did I say any of the attendees spoke for anyone.

But a simple cursory review of the attendee list shows a number of people who have told us that we're all gonna die (except them) if we don't quit using fossil fuels, for example - David Attenborough.

Can you please confirm for me that David Attenborough is chartering a private jet to Davos? Thank you.

No I cannot, but he has no problem sharing his (undoubtedly) extremely profound and cutting edge ideas with those that did . . .

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/1500-private-jets-expected-at-davos-despite-global-warming-being-a-major-concern-2019-01-22

But they are "encouraged" to take offsetting measures, ya see . . .

https://www.france24.com/en/20190122-never-mind-climate-change-davos-prefers-private-jets
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3888 on: January 22, 2019, 04:31:41 PM »
sorry insane republicans.  in 5 years this one is gonna be about where gay marriage is today.

we understand it better now that the american century is over and some of us sound more and more like serbs.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3889 on: January 22, 2019, 04:47:44 PM »
sorry insane republicans.  in 5 years this one is gonna be about where gay marriage is today.


Republicans secretly know climate change is real. They're just hoping rising sea levels will wipe out the Dems.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3890 on: January 22, 2019, 05:01:02 PM »
Useful idiots are easily propagandized.

How telling pictures of the California Fires . . . just two years ago Cali media was running articles about how the drought were caused by El/La Nino/a cycles, then came the articles talking about the region has historically (that's Earth history, not climate alarmist "history") had experienced droughts that lasted decades, even centuries.   But two years later, that just doesn't fit the narrative anymore.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3891 on: January 22, 2019, 05:02:47 PM »
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3894 on: January 22, 2019, 05:11:28 PM »
:lol:

Speaking of useful idiots

Climate change: hoax or no hoax?

The climate has always changed and always will change.   

We now have climate "scientists" writing scary papers where they now use such scientific words as "belief".

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« Reply #3895 on: January 22, 2019, 05:13:11 PM »
:lol:

Speaking of useful idiots

Climate change: hoax or no hoax?

The climate has always changed and always will change.   

We now have climate "scientists" writing scary papers where they now use such scientific words as "belief".

Dax a yes or no question is the easiest of any question to answer.  There’s no other context needed.  Is man made climate change a hoax or not?

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« Reply #3896 on: January 22, 2019, 05:16:40 PM »
:lol:

Speaking of useful idiots

Climate change: hoax or no hoax?

The climate has always changed and always will change.   

We now have climate "scientists" writing scary papers where they now use such scientific words as "belief".

Dax a yes or no question is the easiest of any question to answer.  There’s no other context needed.  Is man made climate change a hoax or not?

LOL, your own favorite scientists can't answer that question, and always manage to leave a lot of open ended-ness to every belief-conclusion, which translates into . . . . we need more money.

The AGW is not the cataclysmic event that alarmist say that it is, but if you want me to say that man is impacting the environment than, yes.   Ever since man has existed.

But, you're too stupid to get that.



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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3897 on: January 22, 2019, 05:22:57 PM »
:lol:

Speaking of useful idiots

Climate change: hoax or no hoax?

The climate has always changed and always will change.   

We now have climate "scientists" writing scary papers where they now use such scientific words as "belief".

Dax a yes or no question is the easiest of any question to answer.  There’s no other context needed.  Is man made climate change a hoax or not?

LOL, your own favorite scientists can't answer that question, and always manage to leave a lot of open ended-ness to every belief-conclusion, which translates into . . . . we need more money.

The AGW is not the cataclysmic event that alarmist say that it is, but if you want me to say that man is impacting the environment than, yes.   Ever since man has existed.

But, you're too stupid to get that.

Good grief.  Thank you for at least answering.

So in light of this, did pre-industrial revolution people impact it more or less than post-industrial revolution?

Or is it your opinion when we were hunter-gathers we impacted it the same as we do today?

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« Reply #3898 on: January 22, 2019, 05:26:58 PM »
Here's a perfect example The Big Tuck:

“Arctic Amplification is consistent with computer models, simulating the response to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations. However, the underlying physical processes for the intensified warming still remain elusive. 

Using complex computer simulations, the scientists were able to disprove previously suggested hypotheses, that emphasized the role of transport of heat from the tropics to the poles as one of the key contributors to the amplified warming in the Arctic.
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“Our study clearly shows that local carbon dioxide forcing and polar feedbacks are most effective in Arctic amplification compared to other processes”, says Assistant Project Leader Malte F. Stuecker, the corresponding author of the study.”


Translation:  We don't really know anything more now, than we did before the study.   But we're going to make you believe that we're on to something so we can get more money.   Not only that, there's huge debate as to whether you can even call it "intensified warming" . . intensified warming relative to what?   For how long?  When?   But this the game that's played, and AGW zealots get all pissy when just as smart people as these "scientists" start picking these things apart. 

https://www.eurekalert.org/multimedia/pub/190661.php
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« Reply #3899 on: January 22, 2019, 05:47:30 PM »
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