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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3825 on: November 01, 2018, 01:47:06 PM »
I see nobody has any legitimate disagreement with my assessment of the Paris accord.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3826 on: November 07, 2018, 04:30:26 PM »
https://judithcurry.com/2018/11/06/a-major-problem-with-the-resplandy-et-al-ocean-heat-uptake-paper/#_edn1

Hmm . . .

The findings of the Resplandy et al paper were peer reviewed and published in the world’s premier scientific journal and were given wide coverage in the English-speaking media. Despite this, a quick review of the first page of the paper was sufficient to raise doubts as to the accuracy of its results. Just a few hours of analysis and calculations, based only on published information, was  sufficient to uncover apparently serious (but surely inadvertent) errors in the underlying calculations.

Moreover, even if the paper’s results had been correct, they would not have justified its findings regarding an increase to 2.0°C in the lower bound of the equilibrium climate sensitivity range and a 25% reduction in the carbon budget for 2°C global warming.

Because of the wide dissemination of the paper’s results, it is extremely important that these errors are acknowledged by the authors without delay and then corrected.

Of course, it is also very important that the media outlets that unquestioningly trumpeted the paper’s findings now correct the record too.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3827 on: November 07, 2018, 05:57:11 PM »
Burn baby burn
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3828 on: November 07, 2018, 06:01:19 PM »
I heard someone make a good point about why geoengineering is an inevitable response that we need to put significant resources toward to prevent the effects of climate change.

Granting that the Earth's climate changes on its own, we need to make preparations to prevent mass starvation and crop failures in the event (which we have evidence to believe is already happening) that the Earth is warming (for whatever reason).  Geoengineering makes a lot of Green types pretty mad, but it seems inevitable to me to prevent huge famines.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3829 on: November 07, 2018, 06:12:16 PM »
Burn baby burn

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3830 on: November 07, 2018, 06:23:08 PM »
Science  :curse:

Logic  :angry:

Reason  :chainsaw:
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3831 on: November 07, 2018, 07:45:47 PM »
Science  :curse:

Logic  :angry:

Reason  :chainsaw:

Only a supreme dumbass such as yourself wouldn’t understand that I posted an article from a scientist saying other scientists are wrong, and very explicitly stating why he believes they are wrong. 

Posted on Dr. Judith Curry’s website.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3832 on: November 12, 2018, 10:13:14 AM »
Apparently our own Kansas State University refutes the science that wind energy proliferation will actually warm the earth via air flow disruption.

https://www.k-state.edu/media/newsreleases/2018-11/westar111218.html

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3833 on: November 13, 2018, 10:24:43 AM »
The Sun, not cooperating to advance the agenda.

https://spaceweatherarchive.com/2018/09/27/the-chill-of-solar-minimum/

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3835 on: November 14, 2018, 10:47:44 AM »
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/environment/sd-me-climate-study-error-20181113-story.html

Remember, finding major flaws in widely heralded scientific studies is in fact . . . anti-science, according to some on this blog.


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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3837 on: November 15, 2018, 08:03:34 AM »
Always appreciate takes that imply that the only way climate changes is because of AGW. 

Apparently they’ve never heard of natural variability.   

Some in the MSM have done a total 180 on California.   Just a couple of years ago they told us the historical facts that droughts in the region have in some cases  lasted decades even centuries over the course of history.   Now it’s all AGW fault. 

The Agenda never sleeps. 

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3838 on: November 17, 2018, 02:14:30 PM »
Good thing not everyone is like Dax and says “Welp it’s too expensive might as well not even try and make it better and cheaper burn baby burn”.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/its-now-cheaper-to-build-a-new-wind-farm-than-to-keep-a-coal-plant-running/
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3839 on: November 22, 2018, 06:57:24 AM »
Every debate on this subject in the entire history of debates on this subject:

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3841 on: November 23, 2018, 11:14:32 PM »
I have never understood how if they can't accurately forecast the weather a month out how we're supposed to believe they can predict the climate 50-100 years in the future.

It's a blatant attempt to scare folks into giving up their money and control to big daddy government to save the day. And the leftist masses are just ignorant enough to fall for it.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3842 on: November 23, 2018, 11:23:06 PM »
Dax?
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3843 on: November 23, 2018, 11:24:27 PM »
I've frequently said that the warmer temperatures of the Holocene Climatic Optimum of about 9,000 years ago were likely necessary to make civilization possible. Without those higher temperatures, it would have been more difficult for mankind to settle down and become farmers instead of being nomadic hunters. The more realistic projections for Global Warming would bring the temperature up close to the Climatic Optimum in maybe 100 years.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3844 on: November 24, 2018, 05:27:40 AM »
yeah, you won't shut up about the rough ridin' holocene climatic optimum.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3845 on: November 24, 2018, 12:12:33 PM »
this is interesting because I just watched a video on the PETM

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3846 on: November 26, 2018, 03:23:14 PM »
dax has posted on here that many scientists participate in the global warming mythology because of profit motive--there is a lot of money to be made by claiming the Earth is warming and pollution by people is the cause because the government provides lots of "green funding" and journals like "Nature" will dole out the cash and prestige.  Not clear why academic journals and government grants would have more resources than the array of multi-national corporations that benefit from our current energy consumption but sure, let's stipulate that.

Now, how can we explain how the multi-national energy extraction giants behaved with their own internal research?


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