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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1400 on: January 31, 2013, 02:57:45 PM »
Are you suggesting that people who go through driver's education never had a car accident?

Of course not. But the fact that people have to demonstrate they understand our traffic laws makes our roads safer than they would be if just anyone could drive.

Some of the above I could get on board with, but not if all the expense came at the hands of gun owners. 

In addition, not one of you ever acknowledged guns and ammo are already taxed an additional 11%.  Probably weren't aware of it?   :dunno:

I've told you I don't think gun owners necessarily need to bear the entire cost. Also, money generated from that tax is almost entirely used for fish and game refuges for hunters, and was fully supported by both gun owners and the guns and ammo industry. Maybe bump it to 15%, and split the money between setting up a national gun licensing and registration program. There's lots of things you can do.

http://www.fws.gov/southeast/federalaid/pittmanrobertson.html

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1401 on: January 31, 2013, 03:02:23 PM »
I know where the funding goes.   :dubious: 

FWIW, people who don't buy guns and ammo are able to benefit from that tax (like people who just like to watch or photograph wildlife instead of shoot them).  They ought to share some of the burden.


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1402 on: January 31, 2013, 03:04:51 PM »
FWIW, people who don't buy guns and ammo are able to benefit from that tax (like people who just like to watch or photograph wildlife instead of shoot them).  They ought to share some of the burden.

uh, they do. This tax hasn't funded 100% of all fish and game projects in the United States. Jesus Christ.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1403 on: January 31, 2013, 03:12:42 PM »
FWIW, people who don't buy guns and ammo are able to benefit from that tax (like people who just like to watch or photograph wildlife instead of shoot them).  They ought to share some of the burden.

uh, they do. This tax hasn't funded 100% of all fish and game projects in the United States. Jesus Christ.

Disproportionate!  :shakesfist:

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1404 on: January 31, 2013, 03:16:22 PM »
FWIW, people who don't buy guns and ammo are able to benefit from that tax (like people who just like to watch or photograph wildlife instead of shoot them).  They ought to share some of the burden.

uh, they do. This tax hasn't funded 100% of all fish and game projects in the United States. Jesus Christ.

Disproportionate!  :shakesfist:

It should be disproportionate. JFC.

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Re: Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1405 on: January 31, 2013, 03:17:56 PM »
FWIW, people who don't buy guns and ammo are able to benefit from that tax (like people who just like to watch or photograph wildlife instead of shoot them).  They ought to share some of the burden.

uh, they do. This tax hasn't funded 100% of all fish and game projects in the United States. Jesus Christ.

Disproportionate!  :shakesfist:

Are you sure about that? Source?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1406 on: January 31, 2013, 03:22:39 PM »
amend the constitution to ban guns. we already amended it once to allow them. it's not really very complicated. screaming that it's not an option is a pretty shitty argument.

Alcohol kills more people, both user and innocent bystander, than guns, so we amended the constitution to eliminate it.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1407 on: January 31, 2013, 03:25:42 PM »
amend the constitution to ban guns. we already amended it once to allow them. it's not really very complicated. screaming that it's not an option is a pretty shitty argument.

Alcohol kills more people, both user and innocent bystander, than guns, so we amended the constitution to eliminate it.

Alcohol also leads to unprotected sex and little Fannings, so when it comes to life, alcohol giveth and taketh. Guns just taketh.

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Re: Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1408 on: January 31, 2013, 03:33:22 PM »
FWIW, people who don't buy guns and ammo are able to benefit from that tax (like people who just like to watch or photograph wildlife instead of shoot them).  They ought to share some of the burden.

uh, they do. This tax hasn't funded 100% of all fish and game projects in the United States. Jesus Christ.

Disproportionate!  :shakesfist:

Are you sure about that? Source?

100% sure.  Source:  my balls.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1409 on: January 31, 2013, 03:34:55 PM »
amend the constitution to ban guns. we already amended it once to allow them. it's not really very complicated. screaming that it's not an option is a pretty shitty argument.

Alcohol kills more people, both user and innocent bystander, than guns, so we amended the constitution to eliminate it.

Alcohol also leads to unprotected sex and little Fannings, so when it comes to life, alcohol giveth and taketh. Guns just taketh.

I watched Buckwild the other day, and guns are as big a turn on as alcohol, evidently.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1410 on: January 31, 2013, 03:36:22 PM »
amend the constitution to ban guns. we already amended it once to allow them. it's not really very complicated. screaming that it's not an option is a pretty shitty argument.

Alcohol kills more people, both user and innocent bystander, than guns, so we amended the constitution to eliminate it.

Alcohol also leads to unprotected sex and little Fannings, so when it comes to life, alcohol giveth and taketh. Guns just taketh.

I watched Buckwild the other day, and guns are as big a turn on as alcohol, evidently.

That's a good point.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1411 on: January 31, 2013, 03:37:00 PM »
Guns create habitat for lots of little cute animals and crap!  :shakesfist:  <-- not at the animals

 :love:   <-----  at the animals

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1412 on: January 31, 2013, 04:02:47 PM »
Alcohol kills more people, both user and innocent bystander, than guns, so we amended the constitution to eliminate it.

you're only counting murders, which are only 35% of gun deaths since Newtown.

(I'm not arguing in favor of banning guns, just saying)

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1413 on: January 31, 2013, 04:12:11 PM »
Alcohol kills more people, both user and innocent bystander, than guns, so we amended the constitution to eliminate it.

you're only counting murders, which are only 35% of gun deaths since Newtown.

(I'm not arguing in favor of banning guns, just saying)

No, for this one we can count all gun related deaths.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1414 on: January 31, 2013, 04:39:43 PM »
amend the constitution to ban guns. we already amended it once to allow them. it's not really very complicated. screaming that it's not an option is a pretty shitty argument.

Alcohol kills more people, both user and innocent bystander, than guns, so we amended the constitution to eliminate it.

Alcohol also leads to unprotected sex and little Fannings, so when it comes to life, alcohol giveth and taketh. Guns just taketh.

I enjoyed this post.  :lol:

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1415 on: January 31, 2013, 05:46:10 PM »
amend the constitution to ban guns. we already amended it once to allow them. it's not really very complicated. screaming that it's not an option is a pretty shitty argument.

Alcohol kills more people, both user and innocent bystander, than guns, so we amended the constitution to eliminate it.

And that's why we have laws restricting the ways you can purchase and consume alcohol, also have random check points on occasion to check up on drinking and driving. What your saying is we shouldn't have more strict laws on gun control, and we already have strict laws on alcohol, so that argument is not comparable. Pass it on to your conservative buddies, I'm tired of hearing it.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1416 on: January 31, 2013, 06:22:33 PM »
amend the constitution to ban guns. we already amended it once to allow them. it's not really very complicated. screaming that it's not an option is a pretty shitty argument.

Alcohol kills more people, both user and innocent bystander, than guns, so we amended the constitution to eliminate it.

And that's why we have laws restricting the ways you can purchase and consume alcohol, also have random check points on occasion to check up on drinking and driving. What your saying is we shouldn't have more strict laws on gun control, and we already have strict laws on alcohol, so that argument is not comparable. Pass it on to your conservative buddies, I'm tired of hearing it.

You haven't been paying attention.

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Re: Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1417 on: January 31, 2013, 07:00:37 PM »
FWIW, people who don't buy guns and ammo are able to benefit from that tax (like people who just like to watch or photograph wildlife instead of shoot them).  They ought to share some of the burden.

uh, they do. This tax hasn't funded 100% of all fish and game projects in the United States. Jesus Christ.

Disproportionate!  :shakesfist:

Are you sure about that? Source?

100% sure.  Source:  my balls.

I enjoyed this exchange, thank you  :thumbs:

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1418 on: January 31, 2013, 07:45:30 PM »
Wife went to work today. At her job, they practiced a drill on how to react during an armed crisis.  Her job is teaching math to 10yr olds. 

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Re: Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1419 on: January 31, 2013, 08:02:52 PM »
Wife went to work today. At her job, they practiced a drill on how to react during an armed crisis.  Her job is teaching math to 10yr olds. 

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There is a "safety symposium" at my kid's school tonight for concerned (suburban) parents to air their safety concerns. Thankfully I had to bring work home.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1420 on: January 31, 2013, 08:10:27 PM »
Wife's was due to an unmedicated dad getting released from prison and having shown up at school two days ago claiming to be Jesus.  Mother serving him w papers tomorrow and the police have decided that the entire school should work the next day in partial lock down rather than the mother just keeping her kids home.  Guy was in prison for shooting someone couple yrs ago.  My wife is the guys eldest child's teacher.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1421 on: January 31, 2013, 08:18:40 PM »
Wife's was due to an unmedicated dad getting released from prison and having shown up at school two days ago claiming to be Jesus.  Mother serving him w papers tomorrow and the police have decided that the entire school should work the next day in partial lock down rather than the mother just keeping her kids home.  Guy was in prison for shooting someone couple yrs ago.  My wife is the guys eldest child's teacher.

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guy needs treatment.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1422 on: January 31, 2013, 08:45:36 PM »
Wife's was due to an unmedicated dad getting released from prison and having shown up at school two days ago claiming to be Jesus.  Mother serving him w papers tomorrow and the police have decided that the entire school should work the next day in partial lock down rather than the mother just keeping her kids home.  Guy was in prison for shooting someone couple yrs ago.  My wife is the guys eldest child's teacher.

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Re: Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1423 on: January 31, 2013, 09:12:11 PM »
Wife's was due to an unmedicated dad getting released from prison and having shown up at school two days ago claiming to be Jesus.  Mother serving him w papers tomorrow and the police have decided that the entire school should work the next day in partial lock down rather than the mother just keeping her kids home.  Guy was in prison for shooting someone couple yrs ago.  My wife is the guys eldest child's teacher.

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guy needs treatment.

How?  Not illegal to be insane.  Gonna infringe on his right to not put drugs in his system?

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Re: Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1424 on: January 31, 2013, 10:29:11 PM »
Wife's was due to an unmedicated dad getting released from prison and having shown up at school two days ago claiming to be Jesus.  Mother serving him w papers tomorrow and the police have decided that the entire school should work the next day in partial lock down rather than the mother just keeping her kids home.  Guy was in prison for shooting someone couple yrs ago.  My wife is the guys eldest child's teacher.

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guy needs treatment.

How?  Not illegal to be insane.  Gonna infringe on his right to not put drugs in his system?

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