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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7525 on: March 29, 2023, 02:31:41 PM »
Of all the mass shootings recently this is one that SHOULD be centered around gun regulations.  At least based on what I have read Hale just recently picket up the 2 Assault Rifle 15s used while being under the care of a mental health professions.

Like, heya sport why do you need 2 Assault Rifles at a time?  This seems like it could cause a problem.

But instead it was 2A all day
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7526 on: March 29, 2023, 02:35:25 PM »
Very predictable that the conversation, here and elsewhere, has been successfully shifted to trans rather than guns. As for me, I will wait for more info.
I think it shifted here because nobody here is really arguing against gun restrictions.

Very predictable that the conversation, here and elsewhere, has been successfully shifted to trans rather than guns. As for me, I will wait for more info.

Amen. Having this discussion without knowing anything at all about how even Audrey Hale viewed her/him/themselves is incredibly aggravating and I honestly can't believe people here are doing it.
I don't get your point on this.  Police said the killer was trans.

So we all agree on gun restrictions, cool. Ergo ipso facto dolor, let's use the opportunity to take pot shots at the trans community and imply the inherent mental illness therein is to blame? Even more funnily, imply, without a shred of evidence, that the male hormones coursing through their body are to blame? If that be true, we need to restrict access to guns based on testosterone levels, no?

To be fair, it's really just dax doing this, although your "just asking questions" routine is a bit irksome. At least you don't beat people over the head with it.
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« Reply #7527 on: March 29, 2023, 02:36:39 PM »
I can't believe we're actually talking about this. This is one of those areas that white male privilege is absolutely bears out. This is why when these things happen, people within minority groups hope the perp isn't one of them. A part of the narrative always becomes a discussion about the group said person belongs to. This literally never happens with white men. We acknowledge that nearly all mass shooters are white men, but then there's no commentary about how why being a white man played into the act and why we should or shouldn't fear all white men. This is particularly an issue when a stereotype affirming crime happens, it's really rough ridin' grating.
I think there's been a lot of stuff written about how being a white man informed the psychology of the "stereotypical" mass shooter.  This article sets forth some of the discourse as of 2015:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/mvxv9y/why-are-so-many-mass-shootings-committed-by-young-white-men-623

Whole article is actually pretty interesting.



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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7528 on: March 29, 2023, 02:40:51 PM »
Very predictable that the conversation, here and elsewhere, has been successfully shifted to trans rather than guns. As for me, I will wait for more info.
I think it shifted here because nobody here is really arguing against gun restrictions.

Very predictable that the conversation, here and elsewhere, has been successfully shifted to trans rather than guns. As for me, I will wait for more info.

Amen. Having this discussion without knowing anything at all about how even Audrey Hale viewed her/him/themselves is incredibly aggravating and I honestly can't believe people here are doing it.
I don't get your point on this.  Police said the killer was trans.

So we all agree on gun restrictions, cool. Ergo ipso facto dolor, let's use the opportunity to take pot shots at the trans community and imply the inherent mental illness therein is to blame? Even more funnily, imply, without a shred of evidence, that the male hormones coursing through their body are to blame? If that be true, we need to restrict access to guns based on testosterone levels, no?

To be fair, it's really just dax doing this, although your "just asking questions" routine is a bit irksome. At least you don't beat people over the head with it.
I'm not asking questions.  Nor have I taken any potshots I don't think.

I'm saying nobody knows whether the shooter's gender identity played any role in any of this.  Seems too early to say one way or the other at this point.


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7529 on: March 29, 2023, 02:46:47 PM »
Why not just open it all the way up?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7530 on: March 29, 2023, 02:50:17 PM »
Are you trying to tell me my 5 yr old can get an abortion without my knowledge but can't even legally purchase a firearm?
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7531 on: March 29, 2023, 02:53:24 PM »
Of all the mass shootings recently this is one that SHOULD be centered around gun regulations.  At least based on what I have read Hale just recently picket up the 2 Assault Rifle 15s used while being under the care of a mental health professions.

Like, heya sport why do you need 2 Assault Rifles at a time?  This seems like it could cause a problem.

But instead it was 2A all day

The most recent purchase was June of 2022 according to CNN

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7532 on: March 29, 2023, 02:54:19 PM »
Very predictable that the conversation, here and elsewhere, has been successfully shifted to trans rather than guns. As for me, I will wait for more info.
I think it shifted here because nobody here is really arguing against gun restrictions.

Very predictable that the conversation, here and elsewhere, has been successfully shifted to trans rather than guns. As for me, I will wait for more info.

Amen. Having this discussion without knowing anything at all about how even Audrey Hale viewed her/him/themselves is incredibly aggravating and I honestly can't believe people here are doing it.
I don't get your point on this.  Police said the killer was trans.
Did I miss the police elaborate what being trans in this case means? The also referred to Audrey as her. It's fairly clear that they either don't know or isn't comfortable releasing info about it. Why is it so hard to shut the eff up about the shooters gender identity until we know even a little about what it means in this context?

This literally just happened with the Colorado Springs shooter. They supposedly identified as non-binary but there was no evidence of that until the defense attorneys said so after there were hate crime charges filed.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7533 on: March 29, 2023, 02:59:29 PM »
Very predictable that the conversation, here and elsewhere, has been successfully shifted to trans rather than guns. As for me, I will wait for more info.
I think it shifted here because nobody here is really arguing against gun restrictions.

Very predictable that the conversation, here and elsewhere, has been successfully shifted to trans rather than guns. As for me, I will wait for more info.

Amen. Having this discussion without knowing anything at all about how even Audrey Hale viewed her/him/themselves is incredibly aggravating and I honestly can't believe people here are doing it.
I don't get your point on this.  Police said the killer was trans.
Did I miss the police elaborate what being trans in this case means? The also referred to Audrey as her. It's fairly clear that they either don't know or isn't comfortable releasing info about it. Why is it so hard to shut the eff up about the shooters gender identity until we know even a little about what it means in this context?

This literally just happened with the Colorado Springs shooter. They supposedly identified as non-binary but there was no evidence of that until the defense attorneys said so after there were hate crime charges filed.
I don't know.  The police said the shooter was trans and used he/him pronouns on social media profiles and self-referred as "Aiden." 
« Last Edit: March 29, 2023, 03:04:24 PM by DQ12 »


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7534 on: March 29, 2023, 03:31:24 PM »
Relax, multiple entities including Log Cabin Republicans are working hard to stop the manifesto from being released.

So we may never understand the true motive.

Now get back to telling trans people that there's a genocide (genocide being defined as the mass killing of large groups of people) being committed against them, because that kind of ridiculous hyperbole is the most helpful ridiculous hyperbole.  Right next to the notion that they'll just drop the age restrictions on gun purchases.  Now if you'll excuse I'm purchasing some tickets to John Wick - Chapter 4 - Throwin the Lead and Countin the Dead!!




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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7535 on: March 29, 2023, 06:15:14 PM »
Very predictable that the conversation, here and elsewhere, has been successfully shifted to trans rather than guns. As for me, I will wait for more info.
I think it shifted here because nobody here is really arguing against gun restrictions.

Very predictable that the conversation, here and elsewhere, has been successfully shifted to trans rather than guns. As for me, I will wait for more info.

Amen. Having this discussion without knowing anything at all about how even Audrey Hale viewed her/him/themselves is incredibly aggravating and I honestly can't believe people here are doing it.
I don't get your point on this.  Police said the killer was trans.
Did I miss the police elaborate what being trans in this case means? The also referred to Audrey as her. It's fairly clear that they either don't know or isn't comfortable releasing info about it. Why is it so hard to shut the eff up about the shooters gender identity until we know even a little about what it means in this context?

This literally just happened with the Colorado Springs shooter. They supposedly identified as non-binary but there was no evidence of that until the defense attorneys said so after there were hate crime charges filed.

The killer signed their suicide note/texts with both names. :dunno:

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7537 on: March 31, 2023, 02:32:23 PM »
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International Studies Academy
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Deer Creek Middle School
Ohio State University
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University of Texas
Kelly Elementary School
Marinette High School
Aurora Central High School
Millard South High School
Martinsville West Middle School
Worthing High School
Millard South High School
Highlands Intermediate School
Cape Fear High School
Chardon High School
Episcopal School of Jacksonville
Oikos University
Hamilton High School
Perry Hall School
Normal Community High School
University of South Alabama
Banner Academy South
University of Southern California
Sandy Hook Elementary School
Apostolic Revival Center Christian School
Taft Union High School
Osborn High School
Stevens Institute of Business and Arts
Hazard Community and Technical College
Chicago State University
Lone Star College-North
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Carver High School
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Alpine High School
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Robert E Lee High School
Cheyenne South High School
Grambling State University
Blountsville Elementary School
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Prescott High School
College of the Mainland
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7538 on: March 31, 2023, 02:36:35 PM »
I called my congressman's staffer in DC and gave her a stern scolding. Not sure sure it is going to end gun violence.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7539 on: March 31, 2023, 08:23:03 PM »
shall not be infringed, etc. meat grinder needs meat.


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7540 on: April 01, 2023, 02:43:20 AM »
That list of schools isn't even comprehensive, by the way. Des Moines has had two the last two years that didn't make the list. The school shooting that really kicked these off isn't even listed. I'll never forget this one.
https://www.history.com/.amp/this-day-in-history/a-school-shooting-in-jonesboro-arkansas-kills-five

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Re: Another school shooting
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7542 on: April 06, 2023, 09:00:55 PM »
I particularly enjoyed how the pubs came on tv complaining about how disruptive they were being. Like do you motherfuckers not understand what protesting is?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7545 on: April 08, 2023, 03:36:56 PM »
Two giants of MAGA thought confront the intellectual challenge of advocating for arming teachers with guns while simultaneously holding the belief that public school teachers are woke groomers who violently hate all children:

https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1644790368406306821?s=46&t=mePkKn6StVV98h2WF84F2g


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7546 on: April 08, 2023, 08:38:35 PM »
shall not be infringed, etc. meat grinder needs meat.


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7547 on: April 08, 2023, 11:56:51 PM »
shall not be infringed, etc. meat grinder needs meat.


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I think we'd all take guns being and gun owners being regulated like cars and car owners are. Could you imagine the number of traffic fatalities a year if we treated vehicle use like gun use?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7548 on: April 09, 2023, 07:52:36 AM »
shall not be infringed, etc. meat grinder needs meat.


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https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1643977032509067272?s=20

I think we'd all take guns being and gun owners being regulated like cars and car owners are. Could you imagine the number of traffic fatalities a year if we treated vehicle use like gun use?

That and he cited airports and baseball games as places where we don't have shootings and said it was because of the armed guards and not because you can't bring a gun into an airport or baseball game

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7549 on: April 09, 2023, 08:52:42 AM »
Not really a point either way, but I immediately thought of an airport shooting and a (congressional) baseball shooting
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