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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3200 on: October 23, 2013, 12:48:58 PM »
Fanning, are you still in some type of probationary period?  You don't kiss ass, kick ass in sales, use PTO in your own manner, and spilt a drink on some upper-type dude (this should be negligible imo).  The first three things make me think some people above you think you would be trouble in the future, a "Johnny Football" of sales or something. 

Suck tho dude, I know how pumped you were for that job.
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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3201 on: October 23, 2013, 12:50:20 PM »
Fanning, one time I was fired for a very small reason (late 20 minutes, first time I was late) because it was the end of the busy season and they were looking to cut staff by 50 percent or so.

Getting fired from that job was one of the best things to happen to me tho.
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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3202 on: October 23, 2013, 12:50:52 PM »
so are you or arent you going to stick it to the man and or fight for your right to party?

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3203 on: October 23, 2013, 12:57:53 PM »
I'll be ok you guys. I appreciate the feedback. I have 4 interviews set up already. It might not be what I want to do, but I like paychecks.

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« Reply #3204 on: October 23, 2013, 01:04:46 PM »
I'll be ok you guys. I appreciate the feedback. I have 4 interviews set up already. It might not be what I want to do, but I like paychecks.

Do you?  Because I have a post lined up with some honest feedback, but we'll all have to take a hard look at this.

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« Reply #3205 on: October 23, 2013, 01:05:08 PM »
I'll be ok you guys. I appreciate the feedback. I have 4 interviews set up already. It might not be what I want to do, but I like paychecks.
What do you want to do?  Maybe ge.com can help? 

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« Reply #3206 on: October 23, 2013, 01:08:17 PM »
I'll be ok you guys. I appreciate the feedback. I have 4 interviews set up already. It might not be what I want to do, but I like paychecks.

Do you?  Because I have a post lined up with some honest feedback, but we'll all have to take a hard look at this.

he needs your honesty right now, trim.  do it.

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3207 on: October 23, 2013, 01:11:57 PM »
Dammit, I have been checking this thread every hour, I think we all want closure.

WC if you don't get closure now, it will forever be on your mind, hanging over you like that Chinese coal fog that is full of cancer.  You don't want cancer, do you?
So find out what happened, and then post about it.

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3208 on: October 23, 2013, 01:15:26 PM »
I'll be ok you guys. I appreciate the feedback. I have 4 interviews set up already. It might not be what I want to do, but I like paychecks.

Do you?  Because I have a post lined up with some honest feedback, but we'll all have to take a hard look at this.

he needs your honesty right now, trim.  do it.

This is gonna be some introspective crap.  He needs to want it.

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3209 on: October 23, 2013, 01:19:24 PM »
TELL TRIM YOU WANT IT, FANNING

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3210 on: October 23, 2013, 01:21:27 PM »
worst case scenario, i think we can get emo emaw to convince fanning he wants it

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3211 on: October 23, 2013, 01:27:22 PM »
POST THE FEEDBACK!!

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3212 on: October 23, 2013, 01:32:01 PM »

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3213 on: October 23, 2013, 01:40:33 PM »
It's been a shitty 48 hours. I don't want Trim's dick headish feedback.
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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3214 on: October 23, 2013, 01:41:29 PM »
Trim's really good at bringing ppl down. He loves to do it. It's a weird passion of his.

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3215 on: October 23, 2013, 01:43:30 PM »
It's been a shitty 48 hours. I need Trim's honest feedback.


K, let's hear it Trim.

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3216 on: October 23, 2013, 01:44:13 PM »
Great, let's tweedle dee dumb this down.

I don't think that fanning is keeping anything from us, nor does he not - deep down - know what the real issue is.  He's just not yet being honest with himself.

Obviously, sales figures aren't the determinant factor here.  As was noted in the job thread, one can walk right into good numbers there carried over from predecessors' accounts.  So maybe they don't buy into the wackalysis numbers, or they don't think they'll continue.

Regardless, clearly their issue is with the "fit" in the company.

So, what could be causing them concern?

I don't think where wacky spends his vacations is itself an issue, unless it was already in the air that wacky desired to return to a full-time career of attending k-state games (see his well-self-publicized pittsburgh news video) and/or being in sports media - maybe they'd heard a few fanningbrags about his broadcasting CV and feared they were being used as an ATM until he got back in the game.  Both doubtful.

More likely, the PTO 4-5 months into the new job for what they viewed as childish endeavors did nothing more than confirm concerns they already had. 

Stepping outside of Planet Wacky and into the shoes of DSI middle management (the Gordon Biersch PR flag-taker-down'rs of fanning's office), what would their perspective be when looking at our guy on a day-to-day basis in his plush new office in which he's taking P&L pics out the window?

I think that will give us a start into the rationale that led to the fancanning.

I'll start with a few questions.

Was part of the job sending them reports or updates on your work in memo form?

What did they think your values were, i.e. what was most important to you?  (money, prestige, growth, time, etc.)

Expand a bit on your "refusal to kiss ass" unlike the rest of the office.  Like give some tangible examples.

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3217 on: October 23, 2013, 01:49:07 PM »
sounds like trim needs to make a blog post

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3218 on: October 23, 2013, 01:52:04 PM »
sounds like trim needs to make a blog post

Let's get all the data first.

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3219 on: October 23, 2013, 01:53:02 PM »
pretty good trimalysis.  would like fanning to take a few minutes out of his day to think about those questions, and then answer them here on the blog.
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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3220 on: October 23, 2013, 01:54:57 PM »
trimalysis seems pretty correct.  be honest with yourself AND THEN be honest with us, fanning.

Don't you think that goofing off on g.E might have been an issue, as well?  They can check those type of things.

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3221 on: October 23, 2013, 01:57:57 PM »
4-5 months seems like an awful early trigger pull for a work culture reason, though.  Other than reporting on work in memo form, that seems to be what Trim is implying, right?  I mean, if someone is picking up the work quickly and excelling at it in such a short amt of time, managers should be concerning themselves with attempting to correct culture issues to get a new employee in line unless something big happened that would make them believe that the culture change wouldn't be possible.

Culture takes a lot of time to create and a lot of diligence to maintain.  Companies have to hire ppl who are fitting for that culture but they also have to guide them once employed as well.  That process takes more than 4 months unless something big happens.

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« Reply #3222 on: October 23, 2013, 02:12:37 PM »
4-5 months seems like an awful early trigger pull for a work culture reason, though.  Other than reporting on work in memo form, that seems to be what Trim is implying, right?  I mean, if someone is picking up the work quickly and excelling at it in such a short amt of time, managers should be concerning themselves with attempting to correct culture issues to get a new employee in line unless something big happened that would make them believe that the culture change wouldn't be possible.

Culture takes a lot of time to create and a lot of diligence to maintain.  Companies have to hire ppl who are fitting for that culture but they also have to guide them once employed as well.  That process takes more than 4 months unless something big happens.

We don't know he's "excelling" in their view.  We've been told sales are high, but we were also told when he was choosing his job that they would be because he could take over preexisting business.  There may be more to it than raw numbers.  Actually, as stated above, there has to be more to it.

Maybe their culture is, or what they want it to be, is high work ethic.

I'd be speculating as much as anyone because fanning hasn't given back direct answers yet, but I can imagine how they'd view our guy. 

Imagine if the reports you got looked like what we see here out of wacky.  You're pretty confident he's not illiterate; he got an MBA (UofP) and seemingly can read the things we're sending him.  He just doesn't GAF? 

They see a guy whose focus and/or personal value seems to be not on doing well, growing, etc., but on the world thinking he's doing well.  He wants recognition given to him, rather than earning it. 

Are you going to train a 28(?)-year-old with a graduate degree to have a high work ethic, or would you decide that's a mentality that one has to already have to be part of the organization and cut your losses?

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Re: Master Dating Thread
« Reply #3223 on: October 23, 2013, 02:14:22 PM »
yeah, i bet he is only getting sales on existing clients and isn't expanding his customer base

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« Reply #3224 on: October 23, 2013, 02:19:58 PM »
Maybe.  That said, #1 in sales seems like a hard thing to argue with when it comes to performance or work ethic, unless he is harming others abilities to sell or work.

I mean, if #1 is real, and he isn't causing issues with clients or other sales ppl, you have to think that they would let it ride another quarter or so.  If something works, it works. 

Not saying that work ethic, or perceived work ethic, isn't a possibility.  This gets out of my realm of Wackycat as I have never met him irl.