Master Dating Thread

[puniraptor]

0.0052 touches to the lower back per pound of bodyweight (hers duh). Elbow touches are back touches squared divided by 2. Always round up to the next touch.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

As males all over become more pussified, there is a lot of time to learn game and really increase your value vs. the average beta male.

Sentences like this fascinate me.

Yeah.  FYI, being a very nice guy works like absolute magic for me in part because there are guys out there trying to "run game" on girls.  So, I say a hearty thanks to those guys!

[DQ12]

being a very nice guy works like absolute magic for me in part because there are guys out there trying to "run game" on girls.  So, I say a hearty thanks to those guys!

lol okay non-Alpha male. 

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

being a very nice guy works like absolute magic for me in part because there are guys out there trying to "run game" on girls.  So, I say a hearty thanks to those guys!

lol okay non-Alpha male.

Well then!  Don't look over here, I'm drinking your milkshake.   

[sys]

I remember age was discussed forever ago.  SMV = Sexual Market Value.

the peaks may or may not be accurate, but the curves are definitely off.  as a peak smv male, i can attest that 15 and 29 yo females do not hold equal value.

[reidrolled]

being a very nice guy works like absolute magic for me in part because there are guys out there trying to "run game" on girls.  So, I say a hearty thanks to those guys!

lol okay non-Alpha male.

I'll bet that gosp has a lot of "girl friends"

[EMAWgeddon]

I skimmed but I don't think I disputed claims he makes.  You on the other hand made some pretty ridiculous claims about women not marrying because the gap in compensation between men and women is shrinking.

It supports me more than it disputes you, especially since your short fat white dude research does not apply.

Though in theory, it makes sense that there would be progressively less hypergamy as women are forced to marry down.  Does this make them happy?  Its not a good idea to go against biomechanics.


I'm here to help.  People may not be happy when ugly truths are exposed, but it is better knowing the true reality vs having wishful or destructive thinking.  It was ugly at first, but Emawgeddon eventually listened to me, ignored the other shitty advice, and last I heard found an awesome BF.

This is 100% true.  Stunted is an amazing coach 

[Kat Kid]

I remember age was discussed forever ago.  SMV = Sexual Market Value.

the peaks may or may not be accurate, but the curves are definitely off.  as a peak smv male, i can attest that 15 and 29 yo females do not hold equal value.

Was that the first thing that jumped out at you as inaccurate about the chart?

[steve dave]

looks like boobs, lol

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

being a very nice guy works like absolute magic for me in part because there are guys out there trying to "run game" on girls.  So, I say a hearty thanks to those guys!

lol okay non-Alpha male.

I'll bet that gosp has a lot of "girl friends"

I certainly do.

[stunted]

I remember age was discussed forever ago.  SMV = Sexual Market Value.

the peaks may or may not be accurate, but the curves are definitely off.  as a peak smv male, i can attest that 15 and 29 yo females do not hold equal value.

Was that the first thing that jumped out at you as inaccurate about the chart?

Yes, but how would you even have a clue what should be accurate?

[Rage Against the McKee]

I remember age was discussed forever ago.  SMV = Sexual Market Value.

the peaks may or may not be accurate, but the curves are definitely off.  as a peak smv male, i can attest that 15 and 29 yo females do not hold equal value.

I'm assuming that you mean 29 yo females have a much higher value. However, Fitz is also a peak smv male, and based upon his twitter postings, he would disagree and place a much higher value on 15 yo females. You have to include the entire population to discredit the curves.

[Dugout DickStone]

I remember age was discussed forever ago.  SMV = Sexual Market Value.

the peaks may or may not be accurate, but the curves are definitely off.  as a peak smv male, i can attest that 15 and 29 yo females do not hold equal value.

I'm assuming that you mean 29 yo females have a much higher value. However, Fitz is also a peak smv male, and based upon his twitter postings, he would disagree and place a much higher value on 15 yo females. You have to include the entire population to discredit the curves.

A pretty decent point.

[mocat]

i feel ya, GOSP

[Kat Kid]

I remember age was discussed forever ago.  SMV = Sexual Market Value.

the peaks may or may not be accurate, but the curves are definitely off.  as a peak smv male, i can attest that 15 and 29 yo females do not hold equal value.

Was that the first thing that jumped out at you as inaccurate about the chart?

Yes, but how would you even have a clue what should be accurate?

It is kind of hard to argue with a chart based on no data.

[CNS]

The girl who sent me those text last weekend wants me to go to a going away party tonight and do dinner tomorrow night. I told her to pick one night, because I need to get some homework done on one of those nights. She insisted I try to make it for both. I don't even know this girl who's going away. Is she trying to "show me off" to her friends & does she want all this time with me, because she knows I leave for Vegas Friday with 3 girls? I feel like she's trying to put in extra work before i leave so I might feel guilty in Vegas. It will fail for her.

Tell her that you can only make one night, but that if she wants to come over after your homework the other night she can.

[slobber]

The girl who sent me those text last weekend wants me to go to a going away party tonight and do dinner tomorrow night. I told her to pick one night, because I need to get some homework done on one of those nights. She insisted I try to make it for both. I don't even know this girl who's going away. Is she trying to "show me off" to her friends & does she want all this time with me, because she knows I leave for Vegas Friday with 3 girls? I feel like she's trying to put in extra work before i leave so I might feel guilty in Vegas. It will fail for her.

Tell her that you can only make one night, but that if she wants to come over after your homework the other night she can.

Do the first night. If the sex is great, the next morning you can tell her that you also might be able to do the next night. If the sex isn't great (or it doesn't happen), then you have already given her the excuse. Don't commit to both, or she will hold the sex out until the second night.

[stunted]

It is kind of hard to argue with a chart based on no data.

I can vouch for the chart and there is plenty of data.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

stunner is 100% correct.  for women, money is infinitely more important than a man's looks.  only a poor person would suggest otherwise.

Stunner stated that it did not matter.  How much it matters is a question of degree, but it unquestionably matters.  I don't dispute the fact that some hideous toad of a man with boat loads of money can get a 10 to marry him, but I also know that that 10 will often be banging a dude or dudes on the side that she actually finds sexually attractive.  Pool boy, tennis instructor, etc.  Looks matter to women no matter how much ugly guys wish it weren't true.  Take money out of the equation and there's no debate.  Given equal finances, Chris Hemsworth wins out over Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg any day of the rough ridin' week.  Those two goofy looking fuckers could only pay their way into a beautiful woman's pants.

I think you watch too much TV. There are so many things wrong with this... 

This is not complicated.  I am not saying it is THE factor for women, but it is a factor.  It's simply a question of dergree.  You cannot honestly say that all else being equal a woman wouldn't prefer a man she is physically attracted to.  That's rough ridin' ludicrous to suggest otherwise.  I am getting the feeling that there might be a few below-the-bar looking fellows posting round these parts.  "No dude the ladies ONLY care about my money and my status, oh and also I'm funny."  Sure.  All the ladies get wet for dumpy bodies and homely faces.

Attractiveness is definitely a factor. I was making the comment on watching too much TV because of the pool boy/tennis instructor affair and Mark Zuckerberg could only buy his way into a hot girls pants remarks. The guy just got married to his girlfriend of 9 years, so talking like he is some sort of player who just uses money to get in girls pants is rough ridin' stupid. I have no problem with the attractiveness comments, just the "ugly guys can't get with women unless they're rich" comments.

[Mr Bread]

stunner is 100% correct.  for women, money is infinitely more important than a man's looks.  only a poor person would suggest otherwise.

Stunner stated that it did not matter.  How much it matters is a question of degree, but it unquestionably matters.  I don't dispute the fact that some hideous toad of a man with boat loads of money can get a 10 to marry him, but I also know that that 10 will often be banging a dude or dudes on the side that she actually finds sexually attractive.  Pool boy, tennis instructor, etc.  Looks matter to women no matter how much ugly guys wish it weren't true.  Take money out of the equation and there's no debate.  Given equal finances, Chris Hemsworth wins out over Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg any day of the rough ridin' week.  Those two goofy looking fuckers could only pay their way into a beautiful woman's pants.

I think you watch too much TV. There are so many things wrong with this... 

This is not complicated.  I am not saying it is THE factor for women, but it is a factor.  It's simply a question of dergree.  You cannot honestly say that all else being equal a woman wouldn't prefer a man she is physically attracted to.  That's rough ridin' ludicrous to suggest otherwise.  I am getting the feeling that there might be a few below-the-bar looking fellows posting round these parts.  "No dude the ladies ONLY care about my money and my status, oh and also I'm funny."  Sure.  All the ladies get wet for dumpy bodies and homely faces.

Attractiveness is definitely a factor. I was making the comment on watching too much TV because of the pool boy/tennis instructor affair and Mark Zuckerberg could only buy his way into a hot girls pants remarks. The guy just got married to his girlfriend of 9 years, so talking like he is some sort of player who just uses money to get in girls pants is rough ridin' stupid. I have no problem with the attractiveness comments, just the "ugly guys can't get with women unless they're rich" comments.

I didn't really mean to drag Mark through the mud.  He was just one of the first super rich guys that weren't as good looking as Chris Hemsworth that came to mind.  I went too far.  #SorryZucks

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

i feel ya, GOSP

   Follow the path and you will do well for yourself.  Very well indeed.

[bringonthecats]

stunner is 100% correct.  for women, money is infinitely more important than a man's looks.  only a poor person would suggest otherwise.

Stunner stated that it did not matter.  How much it matters is a question of degree, but it unquestionably matters.  I don't dispute the fact that some hideous toad of a man with boat loads of money can get a 10 to marry him, but I also know that that 10 will often be banging a dude or dudes on the side that she actually finds sexually attractive.  Pool boy, tennis instructor, etc.  Looks matter to women no matter how much ugly guys wish it weren't true.  Take money out of the equation and there's no debate.  Given equal finances, Chris Hemsworth wins out over Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg any day of the rough ridin' week.  Those two goofy looking fuckers could only pay their way into a beautiful woman's pants.

I think you watch too much TV. There are so many things wrong with this... 

This is not complicated.  I am not saying it is THE factor for women, but it is a factor.  It's simply a question of dergree.  You cannot honestly say that all else being equal a woman wouldn't prefer a man she is physically attracted to.  That's rough ridin' ludicrous to suggest otherwise.  I am getting the feeling that there might be a few below-the-bar looking fellows posting round these parts.  "No dude the ladies ONLY care about my money and my status, oh and also I'm funny."  Sure.  All the ladies get wet for dumpy bodies and homely faces.

Attractiveness is definitely a factor. I was making the comment on watching too much TV because of the pool boy/tennis instructor affair and Mark Zuckerberg could only buy his way into a hot girls pants remarks. The guy just got married to his girlfriend of 9 years, so talking like he is some sort of player who just uses money to get in girls pants is rough ridin' stupid. I have no problem with the attractiveness comments, just the "ugly guys can't get with women unless they're rich" comments.

i'm just going to go ahead and solve the mystery for everyone here. you have to be both good looking and have money.

i'd say it's about 40% looks, 40% smarts/sense of humor, & 20% money. when i've turned 30 and have gotten desperate for a guy to pay off my credit card debt & grad school loans, i may have changed my mind though. i might make some concessions in the looks arena. my current position on the matter is purely from the opinion of someone at her peak SMV age.

[stunted]

Good-looking guys will get some gimmes.  But what matters most is how much one feels they can get a girl.  For unattractive guys its hard to beat it in their head that they can get hotties unless they have had success early on in life.  Self-fulfilling prophecy.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

BOTC reveals she is at her peak SMV 

[OB_Won]

Good-looking guys will get some gimmes.  But what matters most is how much one feels they can get a girl.  For unattractive guys its hard to beat it in their head that they can get hotties unless they have had success early on in life.  Self-fulfilling prophecy.