BSFS Expansion Thread

[sonofdaxjones]

I understand why it's a non starter, but I really kind of wish it wasn't.   Just a lot of space over there to build a full service football complex.

Meh, I don't see the need.  There is ~ 140,000 sf between BSFS and Kimball and the E & W parking lots.  This would be plenty large enough for Vanier2.0 + connected indoor facility.  Displaced Vanier parking simply goes into E or W parking lot. 

If we deemed it necessay to also connect the outdoor fields to BSFS, simple switcharoo between the fields and 1/3 of either the E or W parking lot.

I know bro, but the concept means the LHC Bill Snyder "I can't be bothered" factor is less in play, and then opens up NEZ for seating/elite gameday recruiting center.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

This is a stupid question and probably deserves a hit on the head for asking it, but what would be the financial impact if we were to just take half of the west side parking lot and turn it into the facility/practice fields?  How much impact are we talking?  Is that even doable?

I dunno, sounds like a "logistical nightmare" for one thing... Can't even put trees over there.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Athletics isn't developing anything north of Kimball.  So, moot point here, fellas.

What does this mean then?

Word on the street is that weights, offices, team complex etc, is going across the street and current endzone area will be suites, and video boards.

Source is A -.  Company prez is BFF with a top 15 donor.  He sits with this donor in his box pretty much every game.

Headinjun's guy is full of crap.  Any ITK person I've talked to says North of Kimball is a non-starter for the reasons listed above.

Can confirm. Nothing north of Kimball. The Setting will be preserved.

[Belvis Noland]

I understand why it's a non starter, but I really kind of wish it wasn't.   Just a lot of space over there to build a full service football complex.

Meh, I don't see the need.  There is ~ 140,000 sf between BSFS and Kimball and the E & W parking lots.  This would be plenty large enough for Vanier2.0 + connected indoor facility.  Displaced Vanier parking simply goes into E or W parking lot. 

If we deemed it necessay to also connect the outdoor fields to BSFS, simple switcharoo between the fields and 1/3 of either the E or W parking lot.

I know bro, but the concept means the LHC Bill Snyder "I can't be bothered" factor is less in play, and then opens up NEZ for seating/elite gameday recruiting center.

At this point, the "I can't be bothered" factor may be nil (as they say in the futbol world).  Guess we'll just all have to  until the Holiday Bowl.   

["storm"nut]

Fact: there is a waiting list for .north end zone tickets! Long list. Would sell any new seats!

[Katpappy]

I understand why it's a non starter, but I really kind of wish it wasn't.   Just a lot of space over there to build a full service football complex.

It solves a lot of problems and makes a lot of sense.

You see this gigantic field across the street from the football stadium and complex and think, "Hey, why can't we build something nice over there?"

Then you find out some seed nerds are using it and they won't let it go because they want to do more seed things.

This is a stupid question and probably deserves a hit on the head for asking it, but what would be the financial impact if we were to just take half of the west side parking lot and turn it into the facility/practice fields?  How much impact are we talking?  Is that even doable?

$1,000 minimum donation per parking spot to qualify to purchase, plus cost of season parking at $20 per game.  I think they are pretty profitable as they are. 

[HerrSonntag]

I just would prefer they move the animals that poop further away from stadium.

The TCU game was fairly smelly.

When that happens I just breathe in deep and say "love the smell of money."

Agrotuck

Thats what my grandpa used to always say "Smells like money!"   I may be an agrotuck, because i dropped that phrase more than once on Saturday 

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

Can confirm, I dropped it once on my city folk friend. He didn't know what I was talking about and I had to explain.

[Belvis Noland]

There would be zero financial impact with a practice field/parking lot switcharoo.  Keep reserved spots close to stadium.  Switch GA parking with practice fields.  Cake.

[Dr Rick Daris]

There would be zero financial impact with a practice field/parking lot switcharoo.  Keep reserved spots close to stadium.  Switch GA parking with practice fields.  Cake.

 

[MakeItRain]

Fact: there is a waiting list for .north end zone tickets! Long list. Would sell any new seats!

Since when?

When I had to move my seats this season they offered me seats there and my reaction was

[Headinjun]

ps, the "friend is friends with a top [insert number] donor" line is basically a dead giveaway that you're not ITK.

I always  at what some people consider as being a "top 10" or "top 25" donor.

Stanion Tool guy.

I'm sure you've seen the name plastered over the WSC.

It's in the know. 

Does it come true?

Who rough ridin' knows, but it's not impossible.

I myself prefer the idea of the complex being next to the OOD and close to the practice fields.

[Mikeyis4dcats]

ps, the "friend is friends with a top [insert number] donor" line is basically a dead giveaway that you're not ITK.

I always  at what some people consider as being a "top 10" or "top 25" donor.

Stanion Tool guy.

I'm sure you've seen the name plastered over the WSC.

It's in the know. 

Does it come true?

Who rough ridin' knows, but it's not impossible.

I myself prefer the idea of the complex being next to the OOD and close to the practice fields.

you mean Stanion Electric?

[Headinjun]

ps, the "friend is friends with a top [insert number] donor" line is basically a dead giveaway that you're not ITK.

I always  at what some people consider as being a "top 10" or "top 25" donor.

Stanion Tool guy.

I'm sure you've seen the name plastered over the WSC.

It's in the know. 

Does it come true?

Who rough ridin' knows, but it's not impossible.

I myself prefer the idea of the complex being next to the OOD and close to the practice fields.

you mean Stanion Electric?

Yeah. 

[GoodForAnother]

this should go over well

[Panjandrum]

 

[WonderMeal]

Not sure if it was 94 or 95 but they would give out PowerBars to the students.  Many were turned into projectiles that made it to the Cats bench.  The PowerBar give away only lasted a few games IIRC.

I was there for that. Those things were terrible.

Yes, those things were terrible. Rumor has it that the projectile PowerBars that were thrown at the POWL dented some instruments.   

[SkinnyBenny]

Not sure if it was 94 or 95 but they would give out PowerBars to the students.  Many were turned into projectiles that made it to the Cats bench.  The PowerBar give away only lasted a few games IIRC.

I was there for that. Those things were terrible.

Yes, those things were terrible. Rumor has it that the projectile PowerBars that were thrown at the POWL dented some instruments.   

Heard the same rumor from an ITK POWL associate of mine. The energy bars were as terrible as the game was shutout'y.

[Panjandrum]

There would be zero financial impact with a practice field/parking lot switcharoo.  Keep reserved spots close to stadium.  Switch GA parking with practice fields.  Cake.

 

I feel like such an idiot for asking this (because I've never really parked at the stadium; I walked or parked far away and walked), but is it just the grass lot that's GA?

[Panjandrum]

I feel like this could easily happen if we got rid of one softball field at the rec.

I mean, how hard could that be?

[EMAWmeister]

I am pretty sure that K-State Athletics would have to buy that land from either the Foundation or the university.   


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Doesn't the "rules" of the foundation or whatever say that land can't be sold or repurposed?  It was donated to be what it is; it shall always be what it is.

no i don't think that is true. i mean the foundation was building a new building on the corner of kimball and denison and then the market tanked and the stopped and i heard sold it to something involved with nbaf or something. i can check into this but i'm pretty sure there is no rule.

  I'm not sure under which circumstances a previous owner could influence the purpose of property sold.  I suppose a conservation easement might be possible.   

I heard that whenever land is donated to K-State, either through pure donations or land that is donated to the university in a will, it is just immediately auctioned off.  Granted, obviously this changes if it's land that the university actually wants.

[Stevesie60]

I've never sat in the north endzone, but I've always wanted to.

[sonofdaxjones]

I am pretty sure that K-State Athletics would have to buy that land from either the Foundation or the university.   


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Doesn't the "rules" of the foundation or whatever say that land can't be sold or repurposed?  It was donated to be what it is; it shall always be what it is.

no i don't think that is true. i mean the foundation was building a new building on the corner of kimball and denison and then the market tanked and the stopped and i heard sold it to something involved with nbaf or something. i can check into this but i'm pretty sure there is no rule.

  I'm not sure under which circumstances a previous owner could influence the purpose of property sold.  I suppose a conservation easement might be possible.   

I heard that whenever land is donated to K-State, either through pure donations or land that is donated to the university in a will, it is just immediately auctioned off.  Granted, obviously this changes if it's land that the university actually wants.

I don't think that's the case at all.   I think the Foundation holds the land in many cases.  They can lease it for many purposes and use it to generate recurring revenue.   


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[wabash909]

I'm on board with whatever thing moves the animal farms as far away as possible.  Also, if there are big tall odor repellant trees, we should plant those as well.

[sonofdaxjones]

I'm on board with whatever thing moves the animal farms as far away as possible.  Also, if there are big tall odor repellant trees, we should plant those as well.

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Oh man, you're gonna get yourself in an agrotuck throw down mister. 


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