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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: GoodForAnother on December 31, 2014, 05:14:47 PM
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why don't you move to a cabin in the woods somewhere and stop bothering everyone
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oscar, why can't you basketball?
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What will his excuses be today?
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What will his excuses be today?
Plenty of Brucecuses coming.
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Thanks for making me appreciate our football game in two days even more.
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There are plenty of people in Milwaukee that need insurance. Follow your destiny.
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Your New Year's resolution should be to not suck at coaching basketball.
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There more players you should be mad at rather than oscar. It is upsetting it took him so long to aggressive address it.
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Wrong
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There more players you should be mad at rather than oscar. It is upsetting it took him so long to aggressive address it.
You can just say you don't like Marcus foster
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There more players you should be mad at rather than oscar. It is upsetting it took him so long to aggressive address it.
eff you. I am not blaming Marcus Foster for having a shitty game and not getting the second half to break out of his slump. I'm not blaming Jevon for sucking and oscar not realizing he should play Nigel. It's on him to evaluate players after seeing them every day and make lineups accordingly. The fact that he sucks ass at that shows one of the many reasons he sucks ass as a coach. Yet you're going to give him a pass? Go eff yourself.
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There more players you should be mad at rather than oscar. It is upsetting it took him so long to aggressive address it.
eff you. I am not blaming Marcus Foster for having a shitty game and not getting the second half to break out of his slump. I'm not blaming Jevon for sucking and oscar not realizing he should play Nigel. It's on him to evaluate players after seeing them every day and make lineups accordingly. The fact that he sucks ass at that shows one of the many reasons he sucks ass as a coach. Yet you're going to give him a pass? Go eff yourself.
Zeal
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oscar recruited them, coaches them, selects the line up, and provides the prep material. How can the utter inept performances be anything other than oscar's fault?
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There more players you should be mad at rather than oscar. It is upsetting it took him so long to aggressive address it.
You can just say you don't like Marcus foster
I think he isn't competing at a high level. He is better than how he has preformed. Gip has been really spotted on his effort. Nino makes a ton of mistakes. Those are players oscar should of been able to count on. Need to be addressed earlier, but what the eff.
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There more players you should be mad at rather than oscar. It is upsetting it took him so long to aggressive address it.
oscar is a much larger part of the problem though, and that's why he needs to shoulder the responsibility for all of this. Not Players. He let it get so far out of control that it's not even possible to reel it in without creating even more drama and narratives that will define the season (rather than basketball). He never had control of anything and that's what he's getting paid an unconscionable amount of $$$ for. He's made about $17,000 since the last ass kicking on Sunday. It's insane.
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oscar is the problem with his stupid offense that doesn't work and he doesn't have the players for and his absolute inability to motivate his team to play defense and rebound.
But we all knew and predicted this. It's still difficult it is to watch it play out.
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I haven't watched much of the last few games...but here's my level 5 pakd opinion: he's playing too many players, and therefore some guys are in it for themselves and sucking and then the team sucks. So like the players do the sucking but it's oscar's fault.
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If you listened to his postgame today, you got a clue of exactly what is wrong. Not once did he take any ownership. Good coaches are accountable. Many times you would hear Huggins and Martin say that. Coach Snyder says it all the time. From them you hear/heard things such as: "Make free throws and we win the game. As their coach, it is my responsibility to make them understand why making free throws are important and to help them improve. I obviously didn't do that." That sort of thing. From Weber, no such statement. Ever. Today in post game he rambled on and blabbered about nothing. Started talking about Iowa and how they went and won (I think he said Ohio State). What the heck does THAT have to do with ANYTHING? I don't care about Iowa. I care about Kansas State. I care about what YOU are going to do to help improve things. Our AD really homered up on this hire. :dunno:
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If you listened to his postgame today, you got a clue of exactly what is wrong. Not once did he take any ownership. Good coaches are accountable. Many times you would hear Huggins and Martin say that. Coach Snyder says it all the time. From them you hear/heard things such as: "Make free throws and we win the game. As their coach, it is my responsibility to make them understand why making free throws are important and to help them improve. I obviously didn't do that." That sort of thing. From Weber, no such statement. Ever. Today in post game he rambled on and blabbered about nothing. Started talking about Iowa and how they went and won (I think he said Ohio State). What the heck does THAT have to do with ANYTHING? I don't care about Iowa. I care about Kansas State. I care about what YOU are going to do to help improve things. Our AD really homered up on this hire. :dunno:
This isn't a defense of #bruceketball, but Huggins threw players under the bus on a routine basis. I don't ever remember him saying something was on him. The problem is that oscar for one reason or another seems to have a hard time commanding the respect of his players.
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FWIW: Postgame comments.
http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/123114aab.html
My favorite Bruceism from this game: Thomas and Malek (Harris) were pretty good and led us with energy on the play hard chart. We won the play hard 50-35 and we won the boards by 13 against a big physical team.
Go get those play hards, oscar, they'll definitely get you NCAA-bound. :rolleyes:
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holy crap
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bones, more posts like these :thumbs:
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Someone post something that confirms he talked about magic dust. @scottwildcat
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his post game radio interview was one of the best interviews ever, his voice was so raspy he sounded like he was crying and i found it very enjoyable and the stuff he talked about was very lol too
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Damnit, I'll listen to it.
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tbt, post that again but like if bones did it
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im not that good of poster 'bias, maybe last year, not this year
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http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474425
3:34:30 - interview starts
3:39:00 - MAGIC!
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need a login, or else its just band music, maybe im too drunk but idk
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need a login, or else its just band music, maybe im too drunk but idk
Too drunk.
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damnit, happy new year
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works unfortunately well at a 4 (upgraded!)
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need a login, or else its just band music, maybe im too drunk but idk
Too drunk.
This happens. Happy New Year Trim...and everyone else on this fantastic blog.
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:frown: i guess this year i am relegated to "everyone else" :frown:
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holy crap, 3:39:00 is absolutely amazing
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wish i could relive it :frown:
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Oh my God... I want to punch him in his stupid face.
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Guys I'm scared. After the game tonight I'll have to pay attention to KSUMBB or pretend there are no sports on till September. :frown:
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The "I can't do anything" quote right before the magic dust line pissed me off
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If you listened to his postgame today, you got a clue of exactly what is wrong. Not once did he take any ownership. Good coaches are accountable. Many times you would hear Huggins and Martin say that. Coach Snyder says it all the time. From them you hear/heard things such as: "Make free throws and we win the game. As their coach, it is my responsibility to make them understand why making free throws are important and to help them improve. I obviously didn't do that." That sort of thing. From Weber, no such statement. Ever. Today in post game he rambled on and blabbered about nothing. Started talking about Iowa and how they went and won (I think he said Ohio State). What the heck does THAT have to do with ANYTHING? I don't care about Iowa. I care about Kansas State. I care about what YOU are going to do to help improve things. Our AD really homered up on this hire. :dunno:
This isn't a defense of #bruceketball, but Huggins threw players under the bus on a routine basis. I don't ever remember him saying something was on him. The problem is that oscar for one reason or another seems to have a hard time commanding the respect of his players.
Huggs called players out publicly and cussed them mercilessly during games but didn't blame them for losses.
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Hey, oscar, how about you take responsibility for poor play like a good coach. Nick Saban did last night.
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Hey oscar, why don't you just let Marcus coach the team next game?
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whos got post game quotes?
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http://youtu.be/z9zSypO5FMg
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http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474425
3:34:30 - interview starts
3:39:00 - MAGIC!
Is this working for anyone? :frown:
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http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474425
3:34:30 - interview starts
3:39:00 - MAGIC!
Is this working for anyone? :frown:
No, but you can get to it here and clicking the on-demand tab. http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/
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it was down, it's working now
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http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474426
It's up! 3:19
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http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474426
It's up! 3:19
I think you crashed the whole kstatesports website.
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http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474426
It's up! 3:19
It's 2015 I think we can reconstruct his vocal cords or something. It's awful.
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I thought he was going to cry.
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it's not so much that I want to kill oscar, it's just that I want him not to be alive anymore
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“If you get top 10 picks and they still play hard then you are going to kick butt,” Weber said. “I lived that. I had five guys who played in the NBA on my team (at Illinois) and we won the play-hard chart every time. So we won by an average of 18. Those are the special guys. That is (Gregg) Popovich with the Spurs. That is why they win championships. They have got great players and then they play hard and listen and do all the little stuff you are supposed to do. It is important.”
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article8626292.html#storylink=cpy
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i've studied the crap out of different keys to success in coaching. i really know my stuff and have the requisite knowledge to opine on the subject. that said, i think if King DeBruce concentrated on getting some more burger boys to manhattan, a lot of these supposed coaching woes would go away
oh clams, it's so hard to recruit burger boys to manhattan. no it's not. ever heard of michael beasley? mvp 2007. burger boy elite.
for whatever it's worth- this needs to be King DeBruce's motivation- find a burger boy better than frank's burger boy and get him to manhattan kansas hoop city america.
i really don't give a rat's ass what anyone else who isn't as qualified to discuss this matter has to say on it. buzz off if you don't have the credentials to post in this thread. save your breath and your keyboard strokes because they're falling on deaf eyes. burger boys are the key.
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clams, FWIW, I agree that recruiting is pretty important for coaching.
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“If you get top 10 picks and they still play hard then you are going to kick butt,” Weber said.
This is coaching insight we're paying millions for
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Is burger boy short for hamburger sandwich boy? 87% lean is what I am saying, no gristle, just smooth flowing ribbons of marbled meat. Sizzle sizzle pop damn that smells good, put some onions on that crap!
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Is burger boy short for hamburger sandwich boy? 87% lean is what I am saying, no gristle, just smooth flowing ribbons of marbled meat. Sizzle sizzle pop damn that smells good, put some onions on that crap!
hey sloppy joe breath, got any hoops takes or are you here just screwing around?
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How do we get the burger boys to try hard (big part of our program). Everyone knows they are selfish and only out to raise their own draft stock then leave after one year. What then clams?
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Hoops Take Number One:
First you get the Talent (burgers, ballers, bouncers, and bread)
Then you get the Teacher (ecks vs ohs, rhombus and 1, weaving and swingin, put that chest pass on point, don't lose that game before is starts)
Then you get the Training (down to parallel son, plates, pills, fluids, pumps, one more set, one more set for real now, oh you have one more in you)
Than you get the Trophies (new shelf, new wing, new building, media is too much to handle, can they do it again, all that glisters is gold
Hoops Take Number Two:
The ball moves faster than the feet, don't bring it to my gym it if can't work in the street.
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ok, on take #1-
talent. i think we agree with King DeBruce, it takes burger boys to win trophs
teacher. hmm- can't teach an old dog new tricks, that's my motto
training. well. not sure how to train for hoops trophs. does kentucky look like they train? see: talent.
trophs. ah yes, now we've come to the payoff. i hate stupid trophs (bowling championship, golf, etc) but natty champ trophs, different level type crap- worth training for.
mostly agree w/ hoops take #1
ok, now hoops take #2
seems more like a motto than a take. is it a motto? not sure. let me run one-
round ball move, quick like snake, break some ankles with my shake and bake
good start but need more burger boys
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Hoops Take Number Three (3):
Burgers beget burgers, exponentiation yields exponentiation even after differentiation.
But beware you need to start with a pair.
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i would like to get high and have Jeff Bridges read me the last several posts ITT
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:lol:
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We MUST have a gif of the tantrum
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his post game was kind of interesting. he went supermad psycho for about ten seconds but was typical oscar before and after. would love to hear it again. it seemed fake/staged.
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We MUST have a gif of the tantrum
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his post game was kind of interesting. he went supermad psycho for about ten seconds but was typical oscar before and after. would love to hear it again. it seemed fake/staged.
http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474434
3:19:30
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his post game was kind of interesting. he went supermad psycho for about ten seconds but was typical oscar before and after. would love to hear it again. it seemed fake/staged.
http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474434
3:19:30
:lol:
oscar: Perry had a double double by halftime, how'd he finish?
Stan: Yeah he finished with a double double
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We MUST have a gif of the tantrum
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I bet Nino was laughing at him
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I didn't realize watching it live that he actually grabbed the clipboard for the sole purpose of throwing it. That's great.
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I didn't realize watching it live that he actually grabbed the clipboard for the sole purpose of throwing it. That's great.
oscar is...so emotional.
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We all know what is coming. K-State basketball is headed toward mediocrity for the next ten years. I went to every home game from 2004-2008 and the writing is clearly on the wall. We will never be more than a middle of the pack team Big 12 team under oscar Weber that will make the tourney and lose in the first round in a good year, make the NIT in an average year, and miss the postseaon entirely in an average/below average year. This point has been beat to death on this blog, but eff it, I care a lot about K-State basketball. We will fire oscar one day. It could be 2 years from now or 5 years from now, it doesn't matter. Any idea to the contrary you're simply lying to yourself. Sure for the most part every coach gets fired, but the university we all love is banking on everything we know about oscar Weber's to change during his K-State tenure. oscar has had regular season success so far, no doubt, but he is not the future. I hate Currie for hiring oscar. It is such an asinine hire it's hard to think about what a Dallas hotel room does to a man. Mainly I'm just sad. I love K-State basketball and always will. But is is inevitable, the good times are over, I hope K-State is good again in my lifetime
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his post game was kind of interesting. he went supermad psycho for about ten seconds but was typical oscar before and after. would love to hear it again. it seemed fake/staged.
http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474434
3:19:30
3:20:07 is where it starts. quite the ten second deal.
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We all know what is coming. K-State basketball is headed toward mediocrity for the next ten years. I went to every home game from 2004-2008 and the writing is clearly on the wall. We will never be more than a middle of the pack team Big 12 team under oscar Weber that will make the tourney and lose in the first round in a good year, make the NIT in an average year, and miss the postseaon entirely in an average/below average year. This point has been beat to death on this blog, but eff it, I care a lot about K-State basketball. We will fire oscar one day. It could be 2 years from now or 5 years from now, it doesn't matter. Any idea to the contrary you're simply lying to yourself. Sure for the most part every coach gets fired, but the university we all love is banking on everything we know about oscar Weber's to change during his K-State tenure. oscar has had regular season success so far, no doubt, but he is not the future. I hate Currie for hiring oscar. It is such an asinine hire it's hard to think about what a Dallas hotel room does to a man. Mainly I'm just sad. I love K-State basketball and always will. But is is inevitable, the good times are over, I hope K-State is good again in my lifetime
:bawl: :frown:
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We all know what is coming. K-State basketball is headed toward mediocrity for the next ten years. I went to every home game from 2004-2008 and the writing is clearly on the wall. We will never be more than a middle of the pack team Big 12 team under oscar Weber that will make the tourney and lose in the first round in a good year, make the NIT in an average year, and miss the postseaon entirely in an average/below average year. This point has been beat to death on this blog, but eff it, I care a lot about K-State basketball. We will fire oscar one day. It could be 2 years from now or 5 years from now, it doesn't matter. Any idea to the contrary you're simply lying to yourself. Sure for the most part every coach gets fired, but the university we all love is banking on everything we know about oscar Weber's to change during his K-State tenure. oscar has had regular season success so far, no doubt, but he is not the future. I hate Currie for hiring oscar. It is such an asinine hire it's hard to think about what a Dallas hotel room does to a man. Mainly I'm just sad. I love K-State basketball and always will. But is is inevitable, the good times are over, I hope K-State is good again in my lifetime
Sadly, this is probably true.
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NACOGDOCHES, Texas - Head coach Brad Underwood tied for the fifth fastest head coach to reach 50 career wins at the Division I level as the Stephen F. Austin men's basketball teams downed Texas A&M-Corpus Christi 61-51 on Saturday night inside William R. Johnson Coliseum.
Underwood joins James A. "Buck" Freeman (St. Johns, 1930) and Brad Stevens (Butler, 2009) with 50 wins in their first 56 games as a head coach.
http://www.sfajacks.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/013115aae.html (http://www.sfajacks.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/013115aae.html)
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NACOGDOCHES, Texas - Head coach Brad Underwood tied for the fifth fastest head coach to reach 50 career wins at the Division I level as the Stephen F. Austin men's basketball teams downed Texas A&M-Corpus Christi 61-51 on Saturday night inside William R. Johnson Coliseum.
Underwood joins James A. "Buck" Freeman (St. Johns, 1930) and Brad Stevens (Butler, 2009) with 50 wins in their first 56 games as a head coach.
http://www.sfajacks.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/013115aae.html (http://www.sfajacks.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/013115aae.html)
I hope every day that we find a way to bring Brad back to where he belongs.
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We all know what is coming. K-State basketball is headed toward mediocrity for the next ten years. I went to every home game from 2004-2008 and the writing is clearly on the wall. We will never be more than a middle of the pack team Big 12 team under oscar Weber that will make the tourney and lose in the first round in a good year, make the NIT in an average year, and miss the postseaon entirely in an average/below average year. This point has been beat to death on this blog, but eff it, I care a lot about K-State basketball. We will fire oscar one day. It could be 2 years from now or 5 years from now, it doesn't matter. Any idea to the contrary you're simply lying to yourself. Sure for the most part every coach gets fired, but the university we all love is banking on everything we know about oscar Weber's to change during his K-State tenure. oscar has had regular season success so far, no doubt, but he is not the future. I hate Currie for hiring oscar. It is such an asinine hire it's hard to think about what a Dallas hotel room does to a man. Mainly I'm just sad. I love K-State basketball and always will. But is is inevitable, the good times are over, I hope K-State is good again in my lifetime
You got all of that from a road loss at KU? :confused:
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We all know what is coming. K-State basketball is headed toward mediocrity for the next ten years. I went to every home game from 2004-2008 and the writing is clearly on the wall. We will never be more than a middle of the pack team Big 12 team under oscar Weber that will make the tourney and lose in the first round in a good year, make the NIT in an average year, and miss the postseaon entirely in an average/below average year. This point has been beat to death on this blog, but eff it, I care a lot about K-State basketball. We will fire oscar one day. It could be 2 years from now or 5 years from now, it doesn't matter. Any idea to the contrary you're simply lying to yourself. Sure for the most part every coach gets fired, but the university we all love is banking on everything we know about oscar Weber's to change during his K-State tenure. oscar has had regular season success so far, no doubt, but he is not the future. I hate Currie for hiring oscar. It is such an asinine hire it's hard to think about what a Dallas hotel room does to a man. Mainly I'm just sad. I love K-State basketball and always will. But is is inevitable, the good times are over, I hope K-State is good again in my lifetime
You got all of that from a road loss at KU? :confused:
It's true Wacky.
Combine that w post Snyder FB and we're mumped..
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oscar is still in Maui. Sad really
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oscar: Perry had a double double by halftime, how'd he finish?
Stan: Yeah he finished with a double double
:facepalm:
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With fan turnout starting to dwindle at home games, we need an additional attraction. We could have razzle mania after the game. oscar could put on tights and a mask and rassle the refs. We could invite Frank back as a rabid killer from the east. What would oscar's rasslin name be?
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With fan turnout starting to dwindle at home games, we need an additional attraction. We could have razzle mania after the game. oscar could put on tights and a mask and rassle the refs. We could invite Frank back as a rabid killer from the east. What would oscar's rasslin name be?
renocat, you should start a new thread for these kinds of ground breaking ideas
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With fan turnout starting to dwindle at home games, we need an additional attraction. We could have razzle mania after the game. oscar could put on tights and a mask and rassle the refs. We could invite Frank back as a rabid killer from the east. What would oscar's rasslin name be?
What about a free promotional giveaway to fans? How many magnets do we have left?
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With fan turnout starting to dwindle at home games, we need an additional attraction. We could have razzle mania after the game. oscar could put on tights and a mask and rassle the refs. We could invite Frank back as a rabid killer from the east. What would oscar's rasslin name be?
What about a free promotional giveaway to fans? How many magnets do we have left?
Bobbleheads? Hot dogs? Bacon? WBB tickets? BatCat tickets?
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With fan turnout starting to dwindle at home games, we need an additional attraction. We could have razzle mania after the game. oscar could put on tights and a mask and rassle the refs. We could invite Frank back as a rabid killer from the east. What would oscar's rasslin name be?
Bramlage has been full the last two games :dunno:
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but what I wanna know is, who is the fifth fattest coach to get to 50 wins?
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With fan turnout starting to dwindle at home games, we need an additional attraction. We could have razzle mania after the game. oscar could put on tights and a mask and rassle the refs. We could invite Frank back as a rabid killer from the east. What would oscar's rasslin name be?
Bramlage has been full the last two games :dunno:
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With fan turnout starting to dwindle at home games, we need an additional attraction. We could have razzle mania after the game. oscar could put on tights and a mask and rassle the refs. We could invite Frank back as a rabid killer from the east. What would oscar's rasslin name be?
Bramlage has been full the last two games :dunno:
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:ROFL:
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With fan turnout starting to dwindle at home games, we need an additional attraction. We could have razzle mania after the game. oscar could put on tights and a mask and rassle the refs. We could invite Frank back as a rabid killer from the east. What would oscar's rasslin name be?
Bramlage has been full the last two games :dunno:
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:ROFL:
I was at the OK-ST game, first one I've been able to make it to all year... the GA sections was pretty sparce, however all the single admission seats were full AND probably the most disappointing part was the chairback/tuck sections, it was like rocking 80% capacity
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ref intimidated oscar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpsFSLefqKg
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oscar just needed to put his readers on.
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Extended periods of this crap WILL get oscar fired. Guaranteed. This is an embarrassment. Much worse than even that pathetic first half in Lawrence.
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At the end of the season, I hope somebody puts a dossier on Currie's desk of a half by half breakdown of our offensive performances this year, and where they rank in school history. Our offense has been historically bad on a few nights this year, which is completely inexcusable for a coach in his third year who inherited a Big XII championship caliber roster and brand new facilities. eff you oscar :dubious:
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This is a fire the guy before he can get on the bus game. Where is that AD?
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Extended periods of this crap WILL get oscar fired. Guaranteed. This is an embarrassment. Much worse than even that pathetic first half in Lawrence.
Nope.
It makes him stronger.
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I think we're out standing right now. :-(
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He's here until at least 2020 folks, better learn some coping mechanism. I am choosing severe pessimism.
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alcohol
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Yep, Marcus and a couple of others will leave the team at the end of the year, oscar will blame next year on youth, and he'll get at least two more years after that. It's disgusting, but I have no hope that it will turn out any other way.
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/563188643066839040
Still not taking any blame.
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Frank was leveraged by the risk of losing players much worse than marcus.
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Frank was leveraged by the risk of losing players much worse than marcus.
oscar is somehow completely controlling the narrative though, whereas it completely got away from Frank. Which is about the opposite of how you would think those situations would play out.
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The fact this crap is happening over halfway through the season tells me it's not the players(obv). A team should not be having these problems.
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Just wait.
Still not taking any blame.
It gets blame-ier.
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ref intimidated oscar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpsFSLefqKg
Leave these things to the pros.
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If no one buys tickets next year he could be gone in 2017
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If no one buys tickets next year he could be gone in 2017
If things go south quickly, it will be tough for him to last past next year. Currie knows what's on the line with basketball success and he won't let this program tank like it did in the 90s and early 2000s.
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If no one buys tickets next year he could be gone in 2017
LOL no he won't. He has excuses for the next five years. Excuses that will work. Hell if he makes the nit next year he'll get a contract extension for showing improvement...
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Seems like he should have given the team two sheets of paper
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is he implying that the first thing was immaturity? i guess he's brilliant, because he doesn't state it.
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is he implying that the first thing was immaturity? i guess he's brilliant, because he doesn't state it.
Not all brilliant people can speak in complete sentences.
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is he implying that the first thing was immaturity? i guess he's brilliant, because he doesn't state it.
Not all brilliant people can speak in complete sentences.
I guess I just iNtuited it.
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In postgame #oscar, he said maturity was point 1 on the sheet.
Show starts at 3:13:40; sheet talk is at 3:15:28.
http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474435
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I am officially sick of oscar.
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Next comes the live post game loss press conferences where he publicly expresses his undying love for the 2 star player on the opposing team and how he only wished He had players like him...
Prepare to be taken to a place of apathy that you have never experienced before. I am so sorry.
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I am officially sick of oscar.
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In postgame #oscar, he said adversity was point 1 on the sheet.
Show starts at 3:13:40; sheet talk is at 3:15:28.
http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474435
adversity and discipline = consistency? i guess i'm not brilliant, because that doesn't make sense.
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In postgame #oscar, he said adversity was point 1 on the sheet.
Show starts at 3:13:40; sheet talk is at 3:15:28.
http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474435
adversity and discipline = consistency? i guess i'm not brilliant, because that doesn't make sense.
My mistake; I've corrected it. So much talk of adversity around here, I typed that instead of maturity. Not very brilliant of me.
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Why can't he be honest with himself like Gary Williams was at Maryland (a much better coach, but that's beside the point) and just admit he can't relate to college basketball players anymore and quit?
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So is he now coaching to lose, or coaching not to lose? I'm still confused on this point.
In postgame #oscar, he said maturity was point 1 on the sheet.
Show starts at 3:13:40; sheet talk is at 3:15:28.
http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474435
I assume it's everybody else's fault. Guy just needs a chance to do it his way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8KddpKgT2Q
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My mistake; I've corrected it. So much talk of adversity around here, I typed that instead of maturity. Not very brilliant of me.
that does make sense, then. pretty prescient of weber to head off lack of consistency at the pass with sheets of paper.
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I've always had a hard time understanding oscar, but it was more just the cognitive dissonance that comes from watching an awkward loser like that continue to be employed by respectable basketball programs. Now I straight up don't understand what he's even talking about anymore, but I'm sure the mental gymnastics he has to perform to continually absolve himself of any blame can make his message a bit tricky to convey in a way that makes sense to those of us who don't walk around all day bullshitting ourselves and everyone around us.
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Help him get another 100k
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I've always had a hard time understanding oscar, but it was more just the cognitive dissonance that comes from watching an awkward loser like that continue to be employed by respectable basketball programs. Now I straight up don't understand what he's even talking about anymore, but I'm sure the mental gymnastics he has to perform to continually absolve himself of any blame can make his message a bit tricky to convey in a way that makes sense to those of us who don't walk around all day bullshitting ourselves and everyone around us.
The Charlie Weis of basketball.
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I am officially sick of oscar.
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This needs more play.
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I am officially sick of oscar.
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This needs more play.
I will have a better, yet still viakoffman, version of it by Saturday.
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lol.
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I'm with oscar here, I can't stand close talkers either. Guy probably had bad breathe.
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I'm with oscar here, I can't stand close talkers either. Guy probably had bad breathe.
One of the TV guys made a halitosis joke when this happened. It was very hur hur.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9DOG4QCMAAKjfN.jpg)
It reminded me of this:
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I laugh at the close talker every damn time. I love it.
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Ya. If anything. That makes me like him more.
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:confused:
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:confused:
he's faiding away from the guy ear holing him. #champ
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is there a high quality version of that? Because I need a high quality version of that.
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is there a high quality version of that? Because I need a high quality version of that.
Here's some low-quality, but at least it's in landscape. I'll vine it off my tv at some point.
http://youtu.be/9lq0eswuzWI?t=27m40s
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I expect that somehow we end up beating ku at home this year. Those on the fence about oscar will be content and call it a decent season. Ku will go on the Final 4. Much talk in the offseason about how oscar is "really close" and "we beat a F4 team". Optimisim abounds before another .500 season of apathy for many.
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I expect that somehow we end up beating ku at home this year. Those on the fence about oscar will be content and call it a decent season. Ku will go on the Final 4. Much talk in the offseason about how oscar is "really close" and "we beat a F4 team". Optimisim abounds before another .500 season of apathy for many.
Feelin' the KU win also. Very Dana Altman circa-1994 feeling, where we just get lucky (except this year's team probably won't be in the NIT final four).
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I expect that somehow we end up beating ku at home this year. Those on the fence about oscar will be content and call it a decent season. Ku will go on the Final 4. Much talk in the offseason about how oscar is "really close" and "we beat a F4 team". Optimisim abounds before another .500 season of apathy for many.
See idiot Chiefs fans (WE BEAT BOTH SUPER BOWL TEAMS!!!!!) as a template for the stupidity
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I expect that somehow we end up beating ku at home this year. Those on the fence about oscar will be content and call it a decent season. Ku will go on the Final 4. Much talk in the offseason about how oscar is "really close" and "we beat a F4 team". Optimisim abounds before another .500 season of apathy for many.
See idiot Chiefs fans (WE BEAT BOTH SUPER BOWL TEAMS!!!!!) as a template for the stupidity
We're melting down about oscar, please bitch about the Chiefs in the designated area, you're going to attract Wacky and it's going to completely derail this thread.
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Guys I am emotionally drunk over the excitement of getting a chance to play in Madison Square Garden at the end of the year.
We have to be prepared to handle much more adversity to get us there though....
:ksu:
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I expect that somehow we end up beating ku at home this year. Those on the fence about oscar will be content and call it a decent season. Ku will go on the Final 4. Much talk in the offseason about how oscar is "really close" and "we beat a F4 team". Optimisim abounds before another .500 season of apathy for many.
See idiot Chiefs fans (WE BEAT BOTH SUPER BOWL TEAMS!!!!!) as a template for the stupidity
We're melting down about oscar, please bitch about the Chiefs in the designated area, you're going to attract Wacky and it's going to completely derail this thread.
I'm sorry. WACKY LOOK OVER THERE ----------------------------------------------------->
I think we're safe now
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I expect that somehow we end up beating ku at home this year. Those on the fence about oscar will be content and call it a decent season. Ku will go on the Final 4. Much talk in the offseason about how oscar is "really close" and "we beat a F4 team". Optimisim abounds before another .500 season of apathy for many.
See idiot Chiefs fans (WE BEAT BOTH SUPER BOWL TEAMS!!!!!) as a template for the stupidity
We're melting down about oscar, please bitch about the Chiefs in the designated area, you're going to attract Wacky and it's going to completely derail this thread.
I'm sorry. WACKY LOOK OVER THERE ----------------------------------------------------->
I think we're safe now
:crossfingers:
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Guys I am emotionally drunk over the excitement of getting a chance to play in Madison Square Garden at the end of the year.
We have to be prepared to handle much more adversity to get us there though....
:ksu:
There's a better chance of one of us winning the powerball
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do the right thing and resign oscar
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Losing it. Getting angry constantly and the players aren't responding. Put a fork in him,please.
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Two more years, minimum
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I bet I can walk in at half time of the games for the 2015--2016 cats and sit front row center court.
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Guys I am emotionally drunk over the excitement of getting a chance to play in Madison Square Garden at the end of the year.
We have to be prepared to handle much more adversity to get us there though....
:ksu:
There's a better chance of one of us winning the powerball
12/13 wins isn't even gonna get us into the NIT
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Two more years, minimum
If there's no improvement next year, then he'll be fired. There will probably be improvement though.
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Two more years, minimum
If there's no improvement next year, then he'll be fired. There will probably be improvement though.
there will almost definitely be improvement next year. Or he'll lose Marcus and get a free pass next year
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Two more years, minimum
If there's no improvement next year, then he'll be fired. There will probably be improvement though.
there will almost definitely be improvement next year. Or he'll lose Marcus and get a free pass next year
I don't think Marcus leaving gets him a free pass. I'm hoping that John Currie is smart enough to realize that unexpected roster turnover is just a normal, yearly occurrence in college athletics, and that the good coaches weather those storms without significant drop-off.
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Two more years, minimum
If there's no improvement next year, then he'll be fired. There will probably be improvement though.
there will almost definitely be improvement next year. Or he'll lose Marcus and get a free pass next year
Mr currie doesn't give free passes.
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Two more years, minimum
Its this.
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two more years, probable. but next year will matter.
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I think he's gone after next year if we don't make the tourney. There will be too many empty seats for Currie to ignore.
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I think he's gone after next year if we don't make the tourney. There will be too many empty seats for Currie to ignore.
Season tickets next year will be a big indicator. We haven't had a game this year with fewer than 12,000 tickets sold.
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I think he's gone after next year if we don't make the tourney. There will be too many empty seats for Currie to ignore.
Season tickets next year will be a big indicator. We haven't had a game this year with fewer than 12,000 tickets sold.
is that announced or actual tickets sold?
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I think he's gone after next year if we don't make the tourney. There will be too many empty seats for Currie to ignore.
Season tickets next year will be a big indicator. We haven't had a game this year with fewer than 12,000 tickets sold.
is that announced or actual tickets sold?
Its what is posted in the boxscore. K-State used to do attendance, but went to sold tickets several years ago.
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Did that change sometime in 2012-2013?
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It is really simple, if he has another year with the same problems of this year he is gone. But if next year he has command of the locker room and we play hard we most likely will be pretty good.
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lol. that would never happen.
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He beat KU last year, right? His seat couldn't be any colder. We're looking at a minimum of 7-8 more years.
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Look, I think we can all agree that oscar is a dork loser turd. Let's just move forward with that common understanding.
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It is really simple, if he has another year with the same problems of this year he is gone. But if next year he has command of the locker room and we play hard we most likely will be pretty good.
This team minus foster niño and gip plus 2015 recruits is going to be pretty good? I don't think you are trolling so I'm just lost for words.
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I expect that somehow we end up beating ku at home this year. Those on the fence about oscar will be content and call it a decent season. Ku will go on the Final 4. Much talk in the offseason about how oscar is "really close" and "we beat a F4 team". Optimisim abounds before another .500 season of apathy for many.
See idiot Chiefs fans (WE BEAT BOTH SUPER BOWL TEAMS!!!!!) as a template for the stupidity
We're melting down about oscar, please bitch about the Chiefs in the designated area, you're going to attract Wacky and it's going to completely derail this thread.
I'm sorry. WACKY LOOK OVER THERE ----------------------------------------------------->
I think we're safe now
what in the world?!
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It is really simple, if he has another year with the same problems of this year he is gone. But if next year he has command of the locker room and we play hard we most likely will be pretty good.
This team minus foster niño and gip plus 2015 recruits is going to be pretty good? I don't think you are trolling so I'm just lost for words.
M-N thinks that Barry is going to be somewhere between freshman year Foster and Michael Beasley
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sounds reasonable enough
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I think he's gone after next year if we don't make the tourney. There will be too many empty seats for Currie to ignore.
Season tickets next year will be a big indicator. We haven't had a game this year with fewer than 12,000 tickets sold.
I thought you were out of town, have you been to many games? I've only been to a couple, and attendance wasn't good. I suspect we'll see a MASSIVE drop in tickets sold, especially season tickets. Wildcat victory plan sounds nice, but I don't think its going to move the needle that much.
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202x
That is when KSU gets a new basketball coach.
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202x
That is when KSU gets a new basketball coach.
You are rarely wrong :frown:
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202x
That is when KSU gets a new basketball coach.
:horrorsurprise:
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I think he's gone after next year if we don't make the tourney. There will be too many empty seats for Currie to ignore.
Season tickets next year will be a big indicator. We haven't had a game this year with fewer than 12,000 tickets sold.
I thought you were out of town, have you been to many games? I've only been to a couple, and attendance wasn't good. I suspect we'll see a MASSIVE drop in tickets sold, especially season tickets. Wildcat victory plan sounds nice, but I don't think its going to move the needle that much.
I've been to a few, and attendance is down. But in the current climate, sold tickets is what really counts. I regularly attended in the days of 6-8K attendance numbers, it will be interesting to see what the attendance (sold tickets) numbers look like next year.
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I am officially sick of oscar.
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This needs more play.
I will have a better, yet still viakoffman, version of it by Saturday.
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/564357399927332864
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Ran into a tuck at a joco gas station after the game. We were both rocking some KSU gear, made some small talk about the game and referenced how it was time for oscar to go....HE AGREED.
THERE IS HOPE.
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Tickets sold is a ridiculous concept when they are practically giving away free season tickets with football season tickets.
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You can play games with tickets sold, but you can't hide the revenue numbers from Dax's prying eyes. If basketball starts losing money we are going to know.
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You can play games with tickets sold, but you can't hide the revenue numbers from Dax's prying eyes. If basketball starts losing money we are going to know.
There are very few things that I ultimately confident about, but this is one of them.
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Tickets sold is a ridiculous concept when they are practically giving away free season tickets with football season tickets.
You can play games with tickets sold, but you can't hide the revenue numbers from Dax's prying eyes. If basketball starts losing money we are going to know.
This is correct, revenue will be the decision maker, not attendance. Revenue is what clipped Deb in the end. Her attendance was up because the athletic department moved heaven and earth to sell tickets, namely $20 season tickets. The athletic department will do all they can to get tickets sold, that's going to hurt revenue, it already has.
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So, Weber told the media that it's his call whether Foster and Malek are suspended...um, is that true? Certainly seems like all the other info points to a mandatory three game suspension because of failed drug tests. Is oscar just straight up lying to us now? Seems like a shitty thing to do.
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So, Weber told the media that it's his call whether Foster and Malek are suspended...um, is that true? Certainly seems like all the other info points to a mandatory three game suspension because of failed drug tests. Is oscar just straight up lying to us now? Seems like a shitty thing to do.
if they play the next game it's his call. if they don't he's a lying liar who lies.
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So, Weber told the media that it's his call whether Foster and Malek are suspended...um, is that true? Certainly seems like all the other info points to a mandatory three game suspension because of failed drug tests. Is oscar just straight up lying to us now? Seems like a shitty thing to do.
I would certainly hope he's lying. Any good coach would lie in this situation. Frank would call it an injury.
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So, Weber told the media that it's his call whether Foster and Malek are suspended...um, is that true? Certainly seems like all the other info points to a mandatory three game suspension because of failed drug tests. Is oscar just straight up lying to us now? Seems like a shitty thing to do.
I would certainly hope he's lying. Any good coach would lie in this situation. Frank would call it an injury.
I'm not sure why, but it bothers me more when oscar lies to me than when other coaches lie to me. Something about it seems much more unsavory. Maybe it's because I rough ridin' hate him. That's a possibility.
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So, Weber told the media that it's his call whether Foster and Malek are suspended...um, is that true? Certainly seems like all the other info points to a mandatory three game suspension because of failed drug tests. Is oscar just straight up lying to us now? Seems like a shitty thing to do.
I would certainly hope he's lying. Any good coach would lie in this situation. Frank would call it an injury.
I'm not sure why, but it bothers me more when oscar lies to me than when other coaches lie to me. Something about it seems much more unsavory. Maybe it's because I rough ridin' hate him. That's a possibility.
Here's the problem; if he's lying, he's probably trying to take some of the pressure off of a sophomore and freshman. Seems like a good idea. But then don't come out and say dumb stuff like you are "begging them" to play hard or throw Nino under the bus like earlier this year. His inconsistency in taking or not taking responsibility is what makes it frustrating when he speaks to the media no matter what he says. I mean, I know the Illinois fans warned us about this, but the frustration only becomes real when you get to hear oscar being oscar for your program.
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So, Weber told the media that it's his call whether Foster and Malek are suspended...um, is that true? Certainly seems like all the other info points to a mandatory three game suspension because of failed drug tests. Is oscar just straight up lying to us now? Seems like a shitty thing to do.
I would certainly hope he's lying. Any good coach would lie in this situation. Frank would call it an injury.
I'm not sure why, but it bothers me more when oscar lies to me than when other coaches lie to me. Something about it seems much more unsavory. Maybe it's because I rough ridin' hate him. That's a possibility.
Here's the problem; if he's lying, he's probably trying to take some of the pressure off of a sophomore and freshman. Seems like a good idea. But then don't come out and say dumb stuff like you are "begging them" to play hard or throw Nino under the bus like earlier this year. His inconsistency in taking or not taking responsibility is what makes it frustrating when he speaks to the media no matter what he says. I mean, I know the Illinois fans warned us about this, but the frustration only becomes real when you get to hear oscar being oscar for your program.
Yeah. Other coaches lie to protect their players. oscar is just lying to protect himself. He's doubling down on the narrative that all this losing is Marcus Foster's fault.
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Yes RATM. Its not the lying, its the lies that are annoying. All coaches lie tons.
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Weber is a likeable guy and a competent coach when he is winning, but I am bothered by his attitude in losing. The players are immature and they were sucked into the hype or the players are not playing well -- these are the things good coaches address. Self said his team was crap at the start of the year, and praises his pplayers but challenges them to get better. Our guys would not walk off a cliff for Weber.
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Weber is a likeable guy and a competent coach when he is winning, but I am bothered by his attitude in losing. The players are immature and they were sucked into the hype or the players are not playing well -- these are the things good coaches address. Self said his team was crap at the start of the year, and praises his pplayers but challenges them to get better. Our guys would not walk off a cliff for Weber.
Here's the thing tho. Self trashes his team EVERY December in the media, says they're soft, undisciplined, etc. and it works to motivate every year. If it works to use the media to motivate then that's fine. Self's use of media is calculated.
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So, Weber told the media that it's his call whether Foster and Malek are suspended...um, is that true? Certainly seems like all the other info points to a mandatory three game suspension because of failed drug tests. Is oscar just straight up lying to us now? Seems like a shitty thing to do.
I would certainly hope he's lying. Any good coach would lie in this situation. Frank would call it an injury.
I'm not sure why, but it bothers me more when oscar lies to me than when other coaches lie to me. Something about it seems much more unsavory. Maybe it's because I rough ridin' hate him. That's a possibility.
Here's the problem; if he's lying, he's probably trying to take some of the pressure off of a sophomore and freshman. Seems like a good idea. But then don't come out and say dumb stuff like you are "begging them" to play hard or throw Nino under the bus like earlier this year. His inconsistency in taking or not taking responsibility is what makes it frustrating when he speaks to the media no matter what he says. I mean, I know the Illinois fans warned us about this, but the frustration only becomes real when you get to hear oscar being oscar for your program.
I think it's not that complicated. You don't announce the three-game suspension so that teams might have to gameplan for Foster. The info ended up leaking, but oh well. The other "dumb stuff" worked: or at least Nino and Foster picked it up after getting called out.
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basically everything Weber does would be forgotten if he just won. it's not like anything he does or says is THAT crazy but when you play shitty and lose and look shitty, everything gets magnified.
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So, Weber told the media that it's his call whether Foster and Malek are suspended...um, is that true? Certainly seems like all the other info points to a mandatory three game suspension because of failed drug tests. Is oscar just straight up lying to us now? Seems like a shitty thing to do.
I would certainly hope he's lying. Any good coach would lie in this situation. Frank would call it an injury.
I'm not sure why, but it bothers me more when oscar lies to me than when other coaches lie to me. Something about it seems much more unsavory. Maybe it's because I rough ridin' hate him. That's a possibility.
Here's the problem; if he's lying, he's probably trying to take some of the pressure off of a sophomore and freshman. Seems like a good idea. But then don't come out and say dumb stuff like you are "begging them" to play hard or throw Nino under the bus like earlier this year. His inconsistency in taking or not taking responsibility is what makes it frustrating when he speaks to the media no matter what he says. I mean, I know the Illinois fans warned us about this, but the frustration only becomes real when you get to hear oscar being oscar for your program.
I think it's not that complicated. You don't announce the three-game suspension so that teams might have to gameplan for Foster. The info ended up leaking, but oh well. The other "dumb stuff" worked: or at least Nino and Foster picked it up after getting called out.
Nino had a string of good games and a string of games where he underperformed. That's exactly what oscar called him out for in the first place. Marcus Foster has generally played very well his entire career. Nothing oscar has said/done changed Marcus Foster's performance one bit, except when he benched him, you can't play well from the bench.
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So, Weber told the media that it's his call whether Foster and Malek are suspended...um, is that true? Certainly seems like all the other info points to a mandatory three game suspension because of failed drug tests. Is oscar just straight up lying to us now? Seems like a shitty thing to do.
I would certainly hope he's lying. Any good coach would lie in this situation. Frank would call it an injury.
I'm not sure why, but it bothers me more when oscar lies to me than when other coaches lie to me. Something about it seems much more unsavory. Maybe it's because I rough ridin' hate him. That's a possibility.
Here's the problem; if he's lying, he's probably trying to take some of the pressure off of a sophomore and freshman. Seems like a good idea. But then don't come out and say dumb stuff like you are "begging them" to play hard or throw Nino under the bus like earlier this year. His inconsistency in taking or not taking responsibility is what makes it frustrating when he speaks to the media no matter what he says. I mean, I know the Illinois fans warned us about this, but the frustration only becomes real when you get to hear oscar being oscar for your program.
I think it's not that complicated. You don't announce the three-game suspension so that teams might have to gameplan for Foster. The info ended up leaking, but oh well. The other "dumb stuff" worked: or at least Nino and Foster picked it up after getting called out.
Most coaches never acknowledge drug suspensions and skate around it in interviews, nothing to see here. Feel free to trash Weber for the lack of maturity on his team.
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oscar is just so gosh darn unlucky! His plan would have been perfect if not for bad luck.
When will oscar catch a break?
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Here's the problem; if he's lying, he's probably trying to take some of the pressure off of a sophomore and freshman.
if it's his decision, i think he's probably just trying to make it sound more like he's in control of more than he is. if he's been told to not release the reason (has kstate ever released that a player has been suspended for a drug policy violation?) it's probably just a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) a.d. policy from a time when a.d.'s thought townie fans would hide in their bunkers if they knew drug-maddened players were roaming the streets of their fair city, and weber is just muddling through the lying as best he can.
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I can tell you for a fact that this is an AD suspension and out of oscar's hands.
Maybe he'll get pissed off like Frank and take the head coaching gig at Penn State or Oregon State or something.
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I can tell you for a fact that this is an AD suspension and out of oscar's hands.
Maybe he'll get pissed off like Frank and take the head coaching gig at Penn State or Oregon State or something.
I doubt there is another P5 AD dumb enough to take him
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I can tell you for a fact that this is an AD suspension and out of oscar's hands.
Maybe he'll get pissed off like Frank and take the head coaching gig at Penn State or Oregon State or something.
I doubt there is another P5 AD dumb enough to take him
I just gave you two of that would be tickled. Really, every power 5 team who wants to be okay at bball and not get the AD, and by extension the football team, in trouble would be glad to have him.
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Is oscar responsible for the photoshopping request on the team poster?
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I can tell you for a fact that this is an AD suspension and out of oscar's hands.
Maybe he'll get pissed off like Frank and take the head coaching gig at Penn State or Oregon State or something.
I doubt there is another P5 AD dumb enough to take him
I just gave you two of that would be tickled. Really, every power 5 team who wants to be okay at bball and not get the AD, and by extension the football team, in trouble would be glad to have him.
Oregon State is undefeated at home this season with wins over UCLA and Arizona, and they're sitting at 16-7 overall and 7-4 in the Pac 12. Their new coach, Wayne Tinkle, has them on the verge of their first NCAA tournament appearance since 1990. They've also got two Rivals top 100 4-star recruits signed for next year (one of them is the coach's son) and four total top 150 commitments. There's absolutely no way they would want oscar Weber. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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I can tell you for a fact that this is an AD suspension and out of oscar's hands.
Maybe he'll get pissed off like Frank and take the head coaching gig at Penn State or Oregon State or something.
I doubt there is another P5 AD dumb enough to take him
I just gave you two of that would be tickled. Really, every power 5 team who wants to be okay at bball and not get the AD, and by extension the football team, in trouble would be glad to have him.
Oregon State is undefeated at home this season with wins over UCLA and Arizona, and they're sitting at 16-7 overall and 7-4 in the Pac 12. Their new coach, Wayne Tinkle, has them on the verge of their first NCAA tournament appearance since 1990. They've also got two Rivals top 100 4-star recruits signed for next year (one of them is the coach's son) and four total top 150 commitments. There's absolutely no way they would want oscar Weber. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
look beems is back with an arsenal of Adam Sandler movie quotes
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I can tell you for a fact that this is an AD suspension and out of oscar's hands.
Maybe he'll get pissed off like Frank and take the head coaching gig at Penn State or Oregon State or something.
I doubt there is another P5 AD dumb enough to take him
I just gave you two of that would be tickled. Really, every power 5 team who wants to be okay at bball and not get the AD, and by extension the football team, in trouble would be glad to have him.
Oregon State is undefeated at home this season with wins over UCLA and Arizona, and they're sitting at 16-7 overall and 7-4 in the Pac 12. Their new coach, Wayne Tinkle, has them on the verge of their first NCAA tournament appearance since 1990. They've also got two Rivals top 100 4-star recruits signed for next year (one of them is the coach's son) and four total top 150 commitments. There's absolutely no way they would want oscar Weber. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Go BeaverHawks!! :love:
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Who would have thought defending Wayne Tickle and Oregon State basketball would be the tipping point.
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:Woot:
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Montana actually has a pretty impressive coaching tree:
Jud Heathcote
Mike Montgomery
Stew Morrill
Larry Krystkowiak
Wayne Tinkle
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This is an actual thread title on GPC and he's serious
We give Weber 1 more year and Hire Tony Bennett in 2016.
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would take.
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This is an actual thread title on GPC and he's serious
We give Weber 1 more year and Hire Tony Bennett in 2016.
I mean, sd you've got to admit, he even gives your guy Jay a run for his money.
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Mr. Currie should definitely do that.
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I can tell you for a fact that this is an AD suspension and out of oscar's hands.
Maybe he'll get pissed off like Frank and take the head coaching gig at Penn State or Oregon State or something.
I doubt there is another P5 AD dumb enough to take him
I just gave you two of that would be tickled. Really, every power 5 team who wants to be okay at bball and not get the AD, and by extension the football team, in trouble would be glad to have him.
Oregon State is undefeated at home this season with wins over UCLA and Arizona, and they're sitting at 16-7 overall and 7-4 in the Pac 12. Their new coach, Wayne Tinkle, has them on the verge of their first NCAA tournament appearance since 1990. They've also got two Rivals top 100 4-star recruits signed for next year (one of them is the coach's son) and four total top 150 commitments. There's absolutely no way they would want oscar Weber. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
UCLA is 14-10 and 6-5 in the Pac 12.
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This is an actual thread title on GPC and he's serious
We give Weber 1 more year and Hire Tony Bennett in 2016.
I don't know what's more humorous, him wanting to give Weber one more year even though he thinks he should be fired, or the thought that Tony Bennett would leave his current gig to come coach at K-State.
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I wonder if KSU Hoops has ever had a season when their last win was in January? Is there an easy way to google that?
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I wonder if KSU Hoops has ever had a season when their last win was in January? Is there an easy way to google that?
and all that does is set it up for oscar to go .500 next season and the idiots will claim we are headed in the right direction.
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I can tell you for a fact that this is an AD suspension and out of oscar's hands.
Maybe he'll get pissed off like Frank and take the head coaching gig at Penn State or Oregon State or something.
I doubt there is another P5 AD dumb enough to take him
I just gave you two of that would be tickled. Really, every power 5 team who wants to be okay at bball and not get the AD, and by extension the football team, in trouble would be glad to have him.
Oregon State is undefeated at home this season with wins over UCLA and Arizona, and they're sitting at 16-7 overall and 7-4 in the Pac 12. Their new coach, Wayne Tinkle, has them on the verge of their first NCAA tournament appearance since 1990. They've also got two Rivals top 100 4-star recruits signed for next year (one of them is the coach's son) and four total top 150 commitments. There's absolutely no way they would want oscar Weber. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
UCLA is 14-10 and 6-5 in the Pac 12.
And...? How is this relevant to the discussion? Do you think Oregon State has more talent than UCLA?
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hope things are going well with your oregon state girlfriend, beemsie!
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I can tell you for a fact that this is an AD suspension and out of oscar's hands.
Maybe he'll get pissed off like Frank and take the head coaching gig at Penn State or Oregon State or something.
I doubt there is another P5 AD dumb enough to take him
I just gave you two of that would be tickled. Really, every power 5 team who wants to be okay at bball and not get the AD, and by extension the football team, in trouble would be glad to have him.
Oregon State is undefeated at home this season with wins over UCLA and Arizona, and they're sitting at 16-7 overall and 7-4 in the Pac 12. Their new coach, Wayne Tinkle, has them on the verge of their first NCAA tournament appearance since 1990. They've also got two Rivals top 100 4-star recruits signed for next year (one of them is the coach's son) and four total top 150 commitments. There's absolutely no way they would want oscar Weber. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
UCLA is 14-10 and 6-5 in the Pac 12.
And...? How is this relevant to the discussion? Do you think Oregon State has more talent than UCLA?
I think it's probably relevant because you brought up them beating UCLA. Something that could have been brought to my attention yesterday!
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I mean, sd you've got to admit, he even gives your guy Jay a run for his money.
I met a female cousin of his a few years back. She was a handsome lady.
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meow meow :lol:
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Something that could have been brought to my attention yesterday!
:lol:
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http://uproxx.com/movies/2015/02/billy-madison-where-are-they-now/
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This is an actual thread title on GPC and he's serious
We give Weber 1 more year and Hire Tony Bennett in 2016.
How much money would that take? Or would it take a Tony Bennett DUI? Because I think we have the ability to pull off both.
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Beems is back
Back again
Beems is back
Tell a friend....
Beems is back, Beems is back, Beems is back
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I think he's gone after next year if we don't make the tourney. There will be too many empty seats for Currie to ignore.
Season tickets next year will be a big indicator. We haven't had a game this year with fewer than 12,000 tickets sold.
I thought you were out of town, have you been to many games? I've only been to a couple, and attendance wasn't good. I suspect we'll see a MASSIVE drop in tickets sold, especially season tickets. Wildcat victory plan sounds nice, but I don't think its going to move the needle that much.
I've been to a few, and attendance is down. But in the current climate, sold tickets is what really counts. I regularly attended in the days of 6-8K attendance numbers, it will be interesting to see what the attendance (sold tickets) numbers look like next year.
**Sorry for the flashback from a few pages**
I think current tickets sold is a bit of a dodge for how things are. Its nice to have tickets sold because its money in the bank on the balance sheets. You don't have to worry about selling those Bram Dog to cover the new lighting (or whatever). But the truth becomes all the more glaring when the season ticket numbers next year get slaughtered, then there wont be another metric to fall back on.
And I know those feels of 6-8k numbers, I started with Wooly which I know is after you Fan, but the more I hear about tucks being okay with the direction of this program, the more I get ptsd flashbacks that soon oscar will be losing to EA Sports traveling team.
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:popcorn:
Beems is back
Back again
Beems is back
Tell a friend....
Beems is back, Beems is back, Beems is back
In all seriousness, words cannot describe how happy I am that beems is back. He definitely adds to the gE experience.
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it's not that I want to kill oscar, it's that I want him not to be alive anymore
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he has cuckholded the entire kstate basketball fanbase.
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http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474437
3:30:08 Hang in there for about a minute before it really pops off.
:lol:
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http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474437
3:30:08 Hang in there for about a minute before it really pops off.
:lol:
why is it playing annoying music while i'm trying to listen?
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http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474437
3:30:08 Hang in there for about a minute before it really pops off.
:lol:
Refs!!! :curse:
"Battled your ass off..."
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http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474437
3:30:08 Hang in there for about a minute before it really pops off.
:lol:
Refs!!! :curse:
"Battled your ass off..."
Why do I think that's the first time oscar has ever used the word "ass?"
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What did he say? They were mocking the hell out of him on 810 this morning.
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why is it playing annoying music while i'm trying to listen?
me too. the internet is hard for kstaters.
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Guys, it's getting really confusing about which thread to go to when I want to read about oscar Weber complaints.
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A lot of people on GPC seem to be pretty upset about how oscar blew by Bob in the postgame handshake.
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Guys, it's getting really confusing about which thread to go to when I want to read about oscar Weber complaints.
this one is the best one. I think my OP really says it all but the other 9 pages are good too.
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oscar is the Radio Shack of college bball coaches. Unable to attract or adapt. :White flag:
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I hope he is one that Amazon picks up.
Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk
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http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474437
3:30:08 Hang in there for about a minute before it really pops off.
:lol:
Is there a post game call-in show on any of your local radio stations?
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Dial 1-900-642-2568
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Biggest issues that stand out are road record and 5 losses to >100 teams the past two seasons. oscar always manages to get some quality wins, currently 4 Top 25 wins on this season, its the bad losses that make it tough.
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Toughness
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Tuck Nation is on a violently censorship rampage against all oscar detractors.
I've seen this movie before and the first time it ended with Jim Wooldridge getting another year.
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http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474437
3:30:08 Hang in there for about a minute before it really pops off.
:lol:
Is there a post game call-in show on any of your local radio stations?
Yes a former friend of gE even got banned from calling in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INSaD-Nki3g
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Cannot listen
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Texas A&M in KC must count as a home game? It says we're 1-2 at home
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Texas A&M in KC must count as a home game? It says we're 1-2 at home
Correct. In terms of resume, RPI, and those types of things it was a home game because K-State sold the tickets and hosted the game.
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Honest question that I thought of this morning...
College coaches make their living by getting 18-23 year olds to perform.
Other industries that do the same thing?: Retail and food service
If oscar Weber was managing an Arby's or an American Eagle, what would it look like? I mean, seriously.
Could oscar Weber actually motivate people to make a roast beef sandwich properly or fold skinny jeans?
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Honest question that I thought of this morning...
College coaches make their living by getting 18-23 year olds to perform.
Other industries that do the same thing?: Retail and food service
If oscar Weber was managing an Arby's or an American Eagle, what would it look like? I mean, seriously.
Could oscar Weber actually motivate people to make a roast beef sandwich properly or fold skinny jeans?
Not good.
Its one thing to be poor at it. I mean, I get that occasionally you might have a season where you lose some guys.
The big issue for me is constantly coming out to the media and whining about it. Take ownership oscar, because ultimately its still your problem because this is your team. Your excuses only tick me off, and I'm one of your most patient fans. Otherwise just stop talking to the media because your act is getting old.
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The big issue for me is constantly coming out to the media and whining about it. Take ownership oscar, because ultimately its still your problem because this is your team. Your excuses only tick me off, and I'm one of your most patient fans. Otherwise just stop talking to the media because your act is getting old.
this x a million. as a drove to work today, i was more mad at him blaming the team that he recruited for not wanting to play at k-state, than i was at our loss.
we need to keep a running tab on his excuses, our past two loses-
2/11/15 @ WVU it was the officials
2/18/15 @ TCU the players don't want to play at k-state
i can't remember exactly when he threw nino under the bus
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The big issue for me is constantly coming out to the media and whining about it. Take ownership oscar, because ultimately its still your problem because this is your team. Your excuses only tick me off, and I'm one of your most patient fans. Otherwise just stop talking to the media because your act is getting old.
this x a million. as a drove to work today, i was more mad at him blaming the team that he recruited for not wanting to play at k-state, than i was at our loss.
we need to keep a running tab on his excuses, our past two loses-
2/11/15 @ WVU it was the officials
2/18/15 @ TCU the players don't want to play at k-state
i can't remember exactly when he threw nino under the bus
Its freaking pathetic.
A very important part of the job when you are making millions of dollars being a basketball coach is having a sound, consistent message in good times and in bad.
oscar is simply awful when things go south (its not like he's great when things are good) and he has proven he hasn't changed or learned anything from his time at Illinois.
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i forgot about jet lag, can't remember when that one came into play.
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i forgot about jet lag, can't remember when that one came into play.
Tenn
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i forgot about jet lag, can't remember when that one came into play.
Tenn
I look at jet lag as this amorphous time between Maui and the start of Big 12 play.
I think we're forgetting that our tough start wasn't anything the coaches or players were doing. Our poor start was a scheduling issue. Nothing more.
I mean, when you think about it, this whole season is a scheduling issue. If we were just able to play Southern Utah at home 30 times, we'd be really, really good. We may have only lost two or three by now.
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The big issue for me is constantly coming out to the media and whining about it. Take ownership oscar, because ultimately its still your problem because this is your team. Your excuses only tick me off, and I'm one of your most patient fans. Otherwise just stop talking to the media because your act is getting old.
this x a million. as a drove to work today, i was more mad at him blaming the team that he recruited for not wanting to play at k-state, than i was at our loss.
we need to keep a running tab on his excuses, our past two loses-
2/11/15 @ WVU it was the officials
2/18/15 @ TCU the players don't want to play at k-state
i can't remember exactly when he threw nino under the bus
http://bagoexcuses.blogspot.com/2007/08/beginning-list-81607.html?m=1
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Honest question that I thought of this morning...
College coaches make their living by getting 18-23 year olds to perform.
Other industries that do the same thing?: Retail and food service
If oscar Weber was managing an Arby's or an American Eagle, what would it look like? I mean, seriously.
Could oscar Weber actually motivate people to make a roast beef sandwich properly or fold skinny jeans?
Interesting way to look at it. There needs to be a fast food reality show.
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The big issue for me is constantly coming out to the media and whining about it. Take ownership oscar, because ultimately its still your problem because this is your team. Your excuses only tick me off, and I'm one of your most patient fans. Otherwise just stop talking to the media because your act is getting old.
this x a million. as a drove to work today, i was more mad at him blaming the team that he recruited for not wanting to play at k-state, than i was at our loss.
we need to keep a running tab on his excuses, our past two loses-
2/11/15 @ WVU it was the officials
2/18/15 @ TCU the players don't want to play at k-state
i can't remember exactly when he threw nino under the bus
http://bagoexcuses.blogspot.com/2007/08/beginning-list-81607.html?m=1
my God, we're coming full circle.
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So at what point does oscar start talking about chicken nuggets?
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oscar not taking responsibility for his team's performance the entire season is what has pissed me off the most.
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the actual performance should piss you off more
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the actual performance should piss you off more
It's just unwatchable basketball. The only redeeming entertainment value is simply watching oscar pour metaphorical gasoline on himself during every press conference and light a match with what he says.
But I don't even have to watch the games for that. Trim summarizes it well enough that I can save myself two hours.
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And that reminds me that I haven't thanked Trim for doing that work.
Thank you, Trim. It's really great.
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It's one thing not to like things like the performace or oscar's style. It's quite another to wildly speculate about how certain leadership qualities have a direct, negative affect on performance.
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And that reminds me that I haven't thanked Trim for doing that work.
Thank you, Trim. It's really great.
Y-W.
http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474439
3:27:00
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It's one thing not to like things like the performace or oscar's style. It's quite another to wildly speculate about how certain leadership qualities have a direct, negative affect on performance.
cause and effect
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Not much past 3:31:30 there's a part where stan's trying to get something in and oscar just kind of screams a syllable over him.
:lol:
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It's one thing not to like things like the performace or oscar's style. It's quite another to wildly speculate about how certain leadership qualities have a direct, negative affect on performance.
cause and effect
Oh, I see. It's scientific.
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Woah, I missed that he referred to himself in the 3rd person to wrap it up. :eek:
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"B-Ro" almost hyperventilated
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Someone good at computers splice out where oscar says "oscar weber doesn't win" at 3:33:28 and do something funny with it.
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It's one thing not to like things like the performace or oscar's style. It's quite another to wildly speculate about how certain leadership qualities have a direct, negative affect on performance.
cause and effect
Oh, I see. It's scientific.
just following up on you pointing out to us that two different things are different
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It's one thing not to like things like the performace or oscar's style. It's quite another to wildly speculate about how certain leadership qualities have a direct, negative affect on performance.
cause and effect
Oh, I see. It's scientific.
just following up on you pointing out to us that two different things are different
I don't really feel like digging through the Harvard Business Review archives, but loads of evidence suggest that leadership traits do have an impact on performance.
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Shortly after oscar arrived, he was asked what the key to his success would be at K-State.
"I think the big key is that I get them to trust me and respect me. If you can get your best player to buy in and be your best leader and hardest worker, then it makes it so much easier for you as a coach."
Attempt #1: http://es.pn/1DwdQQe
Attempt #2: http://foxs.pt/1KuvhPT
The rest is history.
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I don't really feel like digging through the Harvard Business Review archives, but loads of evidence suggest that leadership traits do have an impact on performance.
You don't need to! We've demonstrated that we're perfectly qaulified to have fascinating, insightful discussions on the matter.
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Shortly after oscar arrived, he was asked what the key to his success would be at K-State.
"I think the big key is that I get them to trust me and respect me. If you can get your best player to buy in and be your best leader and hardest worker, then it makes it so much easier for you as a coach."
Attempt #1: http://es.pn/1DwdQQe
Attempt #2: http://foxs.pt/1KuvhPT
The rest is history.
We don't have a best player on this team that is the problem.
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Shortly after oscar arrived, he was asked what the key to his success would be at K-State.
"I think the big key is that I get them to trust me and respect me. If you can get your best player to buy in and be your best leader and hardest worker, then it makes it so much easier for you as a coach."
Attempt #1: http://es.pn/1DwdQQe
Attempt #2: http://foxs.pt/1KuvhPT
The rest is history.
That only works if your best player is a cold blooded Rodney.
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Shortly after oscar arrived, he was asked what the key to his success would be at K-State.
"I think the big key is that I get them to trust me and respect me. If you can get your best player to buy in and be your best leader and hardest worker, then it makes it so much easier for you as a coach."
Attempt #1: http://es.pn/1DwdQQe
Attempt #2: http://foxs.pt/1KuvhPT
The rest is history.
We don't have a best player on this team that is the problem.
:lol:
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Shortly after oscar arrived, he was asked what the key to his success would be at K-State.
"I think the big key is that I get them to trust me and respect me. If you can get your best player to buy in and be your best leader and hardest worker, then it makes it so much easier for you as a coach."
Attempt #1: http://es.pn/1DwdQQe
Attempt #2: http://foxs.pt/1KuvhPT
The rest is history.
We don't have a best player on this team that is the problem.
This is a great summary of the Tuck point of view.
Marcus is fantastic and very talented. He is surrounded by kids that have either regressed, leveled off, or simply failed to progress. There is zero recognizable development in this team from last year. Nino is doing well off an on, but he is doing so by doing the exact same stuff he did last year but with no primary or secondary option above him that oscar will keep on the floor.
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Shortly after oscar arrived, he was asked what the key to his success would be at K-State.
"I think the big key is that I get them to trust me and respect me. If you can get your best player to buy in and be your best leader and hardest worker, then it makes it so much easier for you as a coach."
Attempt #1: http://es.pn/1DwdQQe
Attempt #2: http://foxs.pt/1KuvhPT
The rest is history.
We don't have a best player on this team that is the problem.
This is a great summary of the Tuck point of view.
Marcus is fantastic and very talented. He is surrounded by kids that have either regressed, leveled off, or simply failed to progress. There is zero recognizable development in this team from last year. Nino is doing well off an on, but he is doing so by doing the exact same stuff he did last year but with no primary or secondary option above him that oscar will keep on the floor.
I don't agree with the regression talking point. Team play is worse, turnovers are up and we are taking worse shots, IMO. Ortgs look ok on development except Westicles. Westicles's biggest issues it that his FTrate has plummeted. That is an effort stat. Effort and quality of team play are down, think that is worse than lack of player development.
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It is not having a top 40 defense that is bullshit. eff we would be able to limp across the NCAA tourney bid if we played defense constantly.
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I don't really feel like digging through the Harvard Business Review archives, but loads of evidence suggest that leadership traits do have an impact on performance.
You don't need to! We've demonstrated that we're perfectly qaulified to have fascinating, insightful discussions on the matter.
CHUM, YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF US!
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It is not having a top 40 defense that is bullshit. eff we would be able to limp across the NCAA tourney bid if we played defense constantly.
No paint defense. No rim protector. Worst 2PT% defense oscar has EVER had.
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OK guys, let's get down to business here, and no more horsing around.
Airplane banners.
Look, I know what you guys are thinking. You are thinking "Pete, we know you love airplane banners, give it a rest." But, if you really think harder, you will agree with me that it's time for airplane banners.
Spring game? Yes.
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What about a box truck with an ad on the side? We can get the townie contingent to take turns cruising around in it a bunch.
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It is not having a top 40 defense that is bullshit. eff we would be able to limp across the NCAA tourney bid if we played defense constantly.
No paint defense. No rim protector. Worst 2PT% defense oscar has EVER had.
It starts on the outside. We start out with crap energy last night, terrible pressure and let rough ridin' TCU get post ups. Certain players on this team won't stop the effing ball, will not fight though screens.
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OK guys, let's get down to business here, and no more horsing around.
Airplane banners.
Look, I know what you guys are thinking. You are thinking "Pete, we know you love airplane banners, give it a rest." But, if you really think harder, you will agree with me that it's time for airplane banners.
Spring game? Yes.
Do they have banners that light up for night time? That would be the best.....fly it around before the big Monday game.
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OK guys, let's get down to business here, and no more horsing around.
Airplane banners.
Look, I know what you guys are thinking. You are thinking "Pete, we know you love airplane banners, give it a rest." But, if you really think harder, you will agree with me that it's time for airplane banners.
Spring game? Yes.
But I don't want oscar to be fired now anymore.
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Just how ballsy would a drone with a banner inside of Bramlage be, though? It would be incredible.
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Just how ballsy would a drone with a banner inside of Bramlage be, though? It would be incredible.
God yes.
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do they still do the pre-game chant sheets in the student section? if so, we have to have an insider that can get ahold of it and adjust it, right?
Announcer guy: now the starting 5 for KU, #1 George Mason
students: FIRE oscar (instead of who's that?! or whatever)
Announcer guy: #13 Kenny Ewwbray
students: FIRE oscar (instead of go home! or whatever)
well, you get it.
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It is not having a top 40 defense that is bullshit. eff we would be able to limp across the NCAA tourney bid if we played defense constantly.
No paint defense. No rim protector. Worst 2PT% defense oscar has EVER had.
our in conference defense is the best since oscar has been here.
2015 101.4
2014 103.6
2013 101.9
2012 96.9
2011 99.8
2010 97.3
2009 104.7
2008 100.8
2007 102.5
2006 99.6
2005 104.8
2004 101.6
2003 100.5
2002 108.1
It'll get worse, obviously, but still.
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It is not having a top 40 defense that is bullshit. eff we would be able to limp across the NCAA tourney bid if we played defense constantly.
No paint defense. No rim protector. Worst 2PT% defense oscar has EVER had.
our in conference defense is the best since oscar has been here.
2015 101.4
2014 103.6
2013 101.9
2012 96.9
2011 99.8
2010 97.3
2009 104.7
2008 100.8
2007 102.5
2006 99.6
2005 104.8
2004 101.6
2003 100.5
2002 108.1
It'll get worse, obviously, but still.
But its the worst average offensive efficiency in this league, probably ever.
This year we are 101.4, but the league average 100.6 and its 8th in the league.
Last year we were 103.6, but the league average was 107.2 and we were 3rd.
oscar's first year we were 101.9, league average was 102.3, and we ranked 5th.
You have to look at it relative to the league, this year we are bad and getting worse.
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Before suspension gate in conference defense was solid. Non con defense was water trash. If we played solid defense in noncon we wouldn't be in this position.
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It is not having a top 40 defense that is bullshit. eff we would be able to limp across the NCAA tourney bid if we played defense constantly.
No paint defense. No rim protector. Worst 2PT% defense oscar has EVER had.
our in conference defense is the best since oscar has been here.
2015 101.4 (8th)
2014 103.6 (3)
2013 101.9 (5)
2012 96.9 (2)
2011 99.8 (3)
2010 97.3 (3)
2009 104.7 (6)
2008 100.8 (3)
2007 102.5 (5)
2006 99.6 (7)
2005 104.8 (8)
2004 101.6 (6)
2003 100.5 (6)
2002 108.1 (8)
It'll get worse, obviously, but still.
But its the worst average offensive efficiency in this league, probably ever.
This year we are 101.4, but the league average 100.6 and its 8th in the league.
Last year we were 103.6, but the league average was 107.2 and we were 3rd.
oscar's first year we were 101.9, league average was 102.3, and we ranked 5th.
You have to look at it relative to the league, this year we are bad and getting worse.
true
2015 100.6
2014 107.2
2013 102.3
2012 102.4
2011 103.2
2010 103.9
2009 104
2008 103.4
2007 104.1
2006 101.4
2005 104.7
2004 104.6
2003 99.7
2002 105.6
Guess you could make the argument we're awful at both offense and defense.
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Before suspension gate in conference defense was solid. Non con defense was water trash. If we played solid defense in noncon we wouldn't be in this position.
what?
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Guess you could make the argument we're awful at both offense and defense.
I don't think there is really an argument.
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16-10 is better than 13-14. You also have to adjust defensive efficiency for offensive deflation. Offense blows in college basketball this year. I believe our defensive conference efficiency ranks 8th .
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16-10 is better than 13-14. You also have to adjust defensive efficiency for offensive deflation. Offense blows in college basketball this year. I believe our defensive conference efficiency ranks 8th .
We're 8th in offensive efficiency, too, so...thanks for explaining that 16-10 is better than 13-14.
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Before suspension gate in conference defense was solid. Non con defense was water trash. If we played solid defense in noncon we wouldn't be in this position.
is this an accepted, widely-used phrase? i like it a lot, although i don't have a clear image of what it means.
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btw, the non-tucks can defend foster all they want (and i think he may be the best shooter in kstate history, so he's worth defending), but there's something wrong with a person that doesn't want to play defense.
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btw, the non-tucks can defend foster all they want (and i think he may be the best shooter in kstate history, so he's worth defending), but there's something wrong with a person that doesn't want to play defense.
I agree, I won't completely leave Foster off the hook here, but I still put the ultimate responsibility at oscar's feet because its his program and he should act like it. If he's really that upset with Foster or other players kick them off the team and be done with it, don't give me lame comments about playing guys that "want to be here".
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Before suspension gate in conference defense was solid. Non con defense was water trash. If we played solid defense in noncon we wouldn't be in this position.
is this an accepted, widely-used phrase? i like it a lot, although i don't have a clear image of what it means.
It's been popularized by a show on comedy central called workaholics.
Julia asks: “wtf is water trash?”
Very good question, Julia. The term “water trash” is usually used to describe a person. That person is someone whose manner of dress and personal hygiene leave something to be desired. Water trash is always used in the pejorative sense and it can be used as a noun or an adjective.
The term is perfectly suited to describe the character, Karl Hevacheck. He wears nothing but tank tops, dirty orange pants that he found somewhere, velcro shoes that are two sizes two big and he drives a van with the words “rape van” spray painted on the side.
The origin of the term can be traced to Concord, California.
http://workaholics.tumblr.com/post/9012174251/answer-to-a-fan-question (http://workaholics.tumblr.com/post/9012174251/answer-to-a-fan-question)
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Before suspension gate in conference defense was solid. Non con defense was water trash. If we played solid defense in noncon we wouldn't be in this position.
is this an accepted, widely-used phrase? i like it a lot, although i don't have a clear image of what it means.
It's been popularized by a show on comedy central called workaholics.
Julia asks: “wtf is water trash?”
Very good question, Julia. The term “water trash” is usually used to describe a person. That person is someone whose manner of dress and personal hygiene leave something to be desired. Water trash is always used in the pejorative sense and it can be used as a noun or an adjective.
The term is perfectly suited to describe the character, Karl Hevacheck. He wears nothing but tank tops, dirty orange pants that he found somewhere, velcro shoes that are two sizes two big and he drives a van with the words “rape van” spray painted on the side.
The origin of the term can be traced to Concord, California.
http://workaholics.tumblr.com/post/9012174251/answer-to-a-fan-question (http://workaholics.tumblr.com/post/9012174251/answer-to-a-fan-question)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vc2HQWx9IA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vc2HQWx9IA)
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Just how ballsy would a drone with a banner inside of Bramlage be, though? It would be incredible.
God yes.
do you guys remember the asbury era indoor blimp?
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Just how ballsy would a drone with a banner inside of Bramlage be, though? It would be incredible.
God yes.
do you guys remember the asbury era indoor blimp?
Oh yes. Saw the Cats take on Ohio University while this thingy was flying around the Purple Palace.
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Just how ballsy would a drone with a banner inside of Bramlage be, though? It would be incredible.
God yes.
do you guys remember the asbury era indoor blimp?
yes. would drop coupons for free subs and whatnot. was fantastic.
bring back the blimp #bbtb #ksu #ood #gocats
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It's been popularized by a show on comedy central called workaholics...
you are a font of information.
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I agree, I won't completely leave Foster off the hook here, but I still put the ultimate responsibility at oscar's feet because its his program and he should act like it.
i don't think it's an either/or situation either.
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I agree, I won't completely leave Foster off the hook here, but I still put the ultimate responsibility at oscar's feet because its his program and he should act like it.
i don't think it's an either/or situation either.
Foster has been inconstant with his effort, he was great with defense and energy against OU. It is disappointing that oscar get his arms around the situation.
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I agree, I won't completely leave Foster off the hook here, but I still put the ultimate responsibility at oscar's feet because its his program and he should act like it.
i don't think it's an either/or situation either.
Foster has been inconstant with his effort, he was great with defense and energy against OU. It is disappointing that oscar get his arms around the situation.
of course it is disappointing oscar can't get his arms around this situation, it is the exact same problem he had with teams full of 4 stars that Snacks signed at Illinois.
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It's been popularized by a show on comedy central called workaholics...
you are a font of information.
I assume you mean like the spraying water things at the K and not comic sans. Either way is good I suppose.
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http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/lutz-blog/article10695032.html (http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/lutz-blog/article10695032.html)
Instead of shutting off sophomore guard Marcus Foster from media access, as he did last week, Kansas State basketball coach oscar Weber needs to make himself off limits.
Some of the things coming from Weber’s mouth these days make a man’s jaw drop, such as after Wednesday night’s embarrassing loss at TCU when Weber complained about not having enough players who work hard and play hard.
“I just want guys that care,” Weber said to a group of reporters. “That is all I want, guys that care and want to play for K-State and want to play to win and will play hard.”
Apparently Weber didn’t get the memo: No Whining Allowed.
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My name is oscar weber, head coach causin touble at major programs
coached u of I for 9 years took us to the highs of highs and lows of lows
got fired for some reason most sucessful run at the school
I stuck around to long
burnin it down
cravin that jarings chicken nuggets cream
throwing my players under the bus
layin thinkin of robbie hummel
im just doin my thing
grabbing that lighter
going to the assemlby hall
burnin it down
burnin itdown
burnin it down
I got a call from john currie
kansas st athletic director
wanted a coach with class
who mows his own grass
and uses coupons
im sticking around to long
burnin it down
found a new chicken nuggets cream
found a new target to throw
under the bus its marcus foster
im just doin my thing
grabbing that lighter
going to bramlaige coliseum
burnin it down
burnin it down
burnin it down
maybe I won to much too early
Ive kicked self ass twice doesnt that count for something?
I know im not a genius,
I just need players with heart
ive made ed dechillis millons
will he remember me
tom izzo has stuck by side
said ill miss those guarantee wins
im just burin it down burnin it down
burnin it down
burnin it down
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The big issue for me is constantly coming out to the media and whining about it. Take ownership oscar, because ultimately its still your problem because this is your team. Your excuses only tick me off, and I'm one of your most patient fans. Otherwise just stop talking to the media because your act is getting old.
this x a million. as a drove to work today, i was more mad at him blaming the team that he recruited for not wanting to play at k-state, than i was at our loss.
we need to keep a running tab on his excuses, our past two loses-
2/11/15 @ WVU it was the officials
2/18/15 @ TCU the players don't want to play at k-state
i can't remember exactly when he threw nino under the bus
That was to the print media before the game at OSU
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The big issue for me is constantly coming out to the media and whining about it. Take ownership oscar, because ultimately its still your problem because this is your team. Your excuses only tick me off, and I'm one of your most patient fans. Otherwise just stop talking to the media because your act is getting old.
this x a million. as a drove to work today, i was more mad at him blaming the team that he recruited for not wanting to play at k-state, than i was at our loss.
we need to keep a running tab on his excuses, our past two loses-
2/11/15 @ WVU it was the officials
2/18/15 @ TCU the players don't want to play at k-state
i can't remember exactly when he threw nino under the bus
That was to the print media before the game at OSU
he kinda did it in the @OSU postgame on the radio, talked about how his entire career he's been inconsistent
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http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/lutz-blog/article10695032.html (http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/lutz-blog/article10695032.html)
Instead of shutting off sophomore guard Marcus Foster from media access, as he did last week, Kansas State basketball coach oscar Weber needs to make himself off limits.
Some of the things coming from Weber’s mouth these days make a man’s jaw drop, such as after Wednesday night’s embarrassing loss at TCU when Weber complained about not having enough players who work hard and play hard.
“I just want guys that care,” Weber said to a group of reporters. “That is all I want, guys that care and want to play for K-State and want to play to win and will play hard.”
Apparently Weber didn’t get the memo: No Whining Allowed.
This is why I like Bob Lutz.
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http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/lutz-blog/article10695032.html (http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/lutz-blog/article10695032.html)
Instead of shutting off sophomore guard Marcus Foster from media access, as he did last week, Kansas State basketball coach oscar Weber needs to make himself off limits.
Some of the things coming from Weber’s mouth these days make a man’s jaw drop, such as after Wednesday night’s embarrassing loss at TCU when Weber complained about not having enough players who work hard and play hard.
“I just want guys that care,” Weber said to a group of reporters. “That is all I want, guys that care and want to play for K-State and want to play to win and will play hard.”
Apparently Weber didn’t get the memo: No Whining Allowed.
This is why I like Bob Lutz.
It’s unusual for coaches to say the kinds of things Weber has been saying about his team lately, especially for public consumption. It makes you wonder what the team would say about Weber.
I'd pay to hear that.
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http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/lutz-blog/article10695032.html (http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/lutz-blog/article10695032.html)
Instead of shutting off sophomore guard Marcus Foster from media access, as he did last week, Kansas State basketball coach oscar Weber needs to make himself off limits.
Some of the things coming from Weber’s mouth these days make a man’s jaw drop, such as after Wednesday night’s embarrassing loss at TCU when Weber complained about not having enough players who work hard and play hard.
“I just want guys that care,” Weber said to a group of reporters. “That is all I want, guys that care and want to play for K-State and want to play to win and will play hard.”
Apparently Weber didn’t get the memo: No Whining Allowed.
This is why I like Bob Lutz.
It’s unusual for coaches to say the kinds of things Weber has been saying about his team lately, especially for public consumption. It makes you wonder what the team would say about Weber.
I'd pay to hear that.
:thumbs:
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I'd pay to hear that.
:thumbs:
Anyone else here good at #acting? We could put on a debate between oscar and selected players at FattyFest.
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The big issue for me is constantly coming out to the media and whining about it. Take ownership oscar, because ultimately its still your problem because this is your team. Your excuses only tick me off, and I'm one of your most patient fans. Otherwise just stop talking to the media because your act is getting old.
this x a million. as a drove to work today, i was more mad at him blaming the team that he recruited for not wanting to play at k-state, than i was at our loss.
we need to keep a running tab on his excuses, our past two loses-
2/11/15 @ WVU it was the officials
2/18/15 @ TCU the players don't want to play at k-state
i can't remember exactly when he threw nino under the bus
That was to the print media before the game at OSU
also threw currie under the bus w the weed suspensions. doesn't matter if currie made the call, King DeBruce handled it wrong
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Shortly after oscar arrived, he was asked what the key to his success would be at K-State.
"I think the big key is that I get them to trust me and respect me. If you can get your best player to buy in and be your best leader and hardest worker, then it makes it so much easier for you as a coach."
Attempt #1: http://es.pn/1DwdQQe
Attempt #2: http://foxs.pt/1KuvhPT
The rest is history.
We don't have a best player on this team that is the problem.
This is a great summary of the Tuck point of view.
Marcus is fantastic and very talented. He is surrounded by kids that have either regressed, leveled off, or simply failed to progress. There is zero recognizable development in this team from last year. Nino is doing well off an on, but he is doing so by doing the exact same stuff he did last year but with no primary or secondary option above him that oscar will keep on the floor.
I don't agree with the regression talking point. Team play is worse, turnovers are up and we are taking worse shots, IMO. Ortgs look ok on development except Westicles. Westicles's biggest issues it that his FTrate has plummeted. That is an effort stat. Effort and quality of team play are down, think that is worse than lack of player development.
So we're throwing Wes under the bus too?
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Stating stats and what I think the stats say. Not throwing anybody under the bus.
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Stating stats and what I think the stats say. Not throwing anybody under the bus.
You said his FTr is down and FTr is an effort stat. There's nothing else to deduce from that other than you think Wes' effort is less than it was last year.
Also the thinking that FTr is an effort stat is stupid. What does his effort have to do with our non-aggressive, 10 pass around the perimeter, slothlike offense?
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Stating stats and what I think the stats say. Not throwing anybody under the bus.
You said his FTr is down and FTr is an effort stat. There's nothing else to deduce from that other than you think Wes' effort is less than it was last year.
Also the thinking that FTr is an effort stat is stupid. What does his effort have to do with our non-aggressive, 10 pass around the perimeter, slothlike offense?
Being aggressive takes effort.
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Stating stats and what I think the stats say. Not throwing anybody under the bus.
You said his FTr is down and FTr is an effort stat. There's nothing else to deduce from that other than you think Wes' effort is less than it was last year.
Also the thinking that FTr is an effort stat is stupid. What does his effort have to do with our non-aggressive, 10 pass around the perimeter, slothlike offense?
Being aggressive takes effort.
Wes' problem looks much more like a confidence issue than an effort issue.
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Foster's FTR is up quite a bit (especially in conference - 25.6 last year, 51.8 this year)
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Stating stats and what I think the stats say. Not throwing anybody under the bus.
You said his FTr is down and FTr is an effort stat. There's nothing else to deduce from that other than you think Wes' effort is less than it was last year.
Also the thinking that FTr is an effort stat is stupid. What does his effort have to do with our non-aggressive, 10 pass around the perimeter, slothlike offense?
Being aggressive takes effort.
Wes' problem looks much more like a confidence issue than an effort issue.
Fair.
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Foster's FTR is up quite a bit (especially in conference - 25.6 last year, 51.8 this year)
I don't think Marcus has been all that bad this year, had some bad games and not living up to high hopes.
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sounds like the case is closed on Marcus' effort. wonder what's different this year?
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Stating stats and what I think the stats say. Not throwing anybody under the bus.
You said his FTr is down and FTr is an effort stat. There's nothing else to deduce from that other than you think Wes' effort is less than it was last year.
Also the thinking that FTr is an effort stat is stupid. What does his effort have to do with our non-aggressive, 10 pass around the perimeter, slothlike offense?
Being aggressive takes effort.
So our offensive issues are because a collective lack of effort? I'm trying to be patient but I'm about to get mean.
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Stating stats and what I think the stats say. Not throwing anybody under the bus.
You said his FTr is down and FTr is an effort stat. There's nothing else to deduce from that other than you think Wes' effort is less than it was last year.
Also the thinking that FTr is an effort stat is stupid. What does his effort have to do with our non-aggressive, 10 pass around the perimeter, slothlike offense?
Being aggressive takes effort.
So our offensive issues are because a collective lack of effort? I'm trying to be patient but I'm about to get mean.
No Westicles's offensive rating is down due to Westicles's reduction in FTrate. Due to a lack of effort, confidence or something like that. I don't think he is a worse player, like some people.
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T's and P's responding to this guys grammer/spelling MIR.
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Stating stats and what I think the stats say. Not throwing anybody under the bus.
You said his FTr is down and FTr is an effort stat. There's nothing else to deduce from that other than you think Wes' effort is less than it was last year.
Also the thinking that FTr is an effort stat is stupid. What does his effort have to do with our non-aggressive, 10 pass around the perimeter, slothlike offense?
Being aggressive takes effort.
So our offensive issues are because a collective lack of effort? I'm trying to be patient but I'm about to get mean.
No Westicles's offensive rating is down due to Westicles's reduction in FTrate. Due to a lack of effort, confidence or something like that. I don't think he is a worse player, like some people.
It has nothing to do with effort, stop saying it dumbass. The offense and his role within it are vastly different. He played the 4 last year and got a lot of looks in the lane. Last year we played 3 out with a high/low inside. Wes got high post looks and frequently popped out and drove the land against bigger, traditional 4s. This year we are playing 4 out one in, passing the ball around the arc and the only players scoring in the lane are Gip and Hurt. Even Nino's scoring in the framework of the offense is limited to 12 foot wing and baseline jumpers, his inside scoring is due to his Orebs.
Anyway stop saying Wes' FTr is due to effort or some other type of unicorny bullshit it's, ironically enough, lazy and stupid.
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People saying "effort" has any role in this offense aren't willing to see how anemic this offense is from 30 seconds on the shot clock to 7-8 in the clock when Marcus or Jevon are forced to make an individual play.
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oscar-ism: Excuses are like assholes, if you don't have one you'll die.
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oscar-ism: Excuses are like assholes, if you don't have one you'll die.
This made me laugh really hard.
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oscar-ism: Before blaming someone else, ask yourself whether there is anyone else you should also be blaming.
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I'm glad MIR is team:
#TheWesIsTheFuture
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Foster's FTR is up quite a bit (especially in conference - 25.6 last year, 51.8 this year)
I don't think Marcus has been all that bad this year, had some bad games and not living up to high hopes.
Marcus was in, or close to, the top 5 ppg in conf before the initial oscar bullshit started. High hopes is a bad discussion at this point.
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Foster's FTR is up quite a bit (especially in conference - 25.6 last year, 51.8 this year)
I thought it showed a really nice evolution in his game. I can't remember specific examples, but there were games that he struggled to score, and he drew fouls and still scored in double digits because he was able to get to the line.
I mean, isn't that what a good/great player is supposed to do when the shot isn't falling if you need them to score? Get to the line and find a way to get points?
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oscar-ism: Excuses are like assholes, if you don't have one you'll die.
:thumbs:
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can I use it, @_33, friend?
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slow clap for _33
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anyone see weber's players all leave the huddle while he was drawing up a play and only three players were there to break the huddle?
well here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-nK6jcOgC8
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anyone see weber's players all leave the huddle while he was drawing up a play and only three players were there to break the huddle?
well here it is
https://www.youtube....h?v=R-nK6jcOgC8
yes. Fire oscar. What's his buyout again?
#TheWesIsTheFuture
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anyone see weber's players all leave the huddle while he was drawing up a play and only three players were there to break the huddle?
well here it is
https://www.youtube....h?v=R-nK6jcOgC8
Fix the link.
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a good place for oscar would be like Bratislava or maybe Antarctica
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Interesting that Foster was one of the three.
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Obviously, I thought we needed a very special effort today. They are a very good team, a very explosive team. They play well defensively. My hope was that they wouldn’t play quite as well or shoot the ball quite as well, but they came out and really played at high level. Great energy, not only shooting the ball, but the rebounds just killed us in the first half. Ten points off of second chances, but also 10 points off our turnovers. I thought we attacked the zone okay. They blocked five shots and we had about five turnovers. I think they had 10 points off those turnovers. They capitalized; it’s the pick-six turnover that just kills you. We were hoping to keep it in single digits. We didn’t have a good finish to the half. To our guys credit we came back and cut it to six…. You have to make some plays then and really put some pressure on them, I thought they got really stagnant. But we didn’t we let them get back in transition and that was it.
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Hope is not a strategy, oscar.
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So now the game plan is to hope the opponent doesn't play well? :facepalm:
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should've scheduled better b12 matchups
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once again, the quote doesn't bother me a bit. The worst efficiency margin in more than 10 years bothers me a lot
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once again, the quote doesn't bother me a bit. The worst efficiency margin in more than 10 years bothers me a lot
I think the quote directly resembles the horrible statistics. How can you get a team ready for a game when in the back of your mind you are thinking, "sheesh, I hope the other team doesn't play very well?" His post game conferences and everything else tell the story. He is an unconfident loser.
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once again, the quote doesn't bother me a bit. The worst efficiency margin in more than 10 years bothers me a lot
I think the quote directly resembles the horrible statistics. How can you get a team ready for a game when in the back of your mind you are thinking, "sheesh, I hope the other team doesn't play very well?" His post game conferences and everything else tell the story. He is an unconfident loser.
I think you're overthinking
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Weber put it more simply.
“All season, it’s been Groundhog Day,” he said. “You just keep waking up.”
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article10885673.html#storylink=cpy
oscar Weber took a stab at explaining K-State’s struggles.
“If you don’t have upperclassman guards it makes it tough,” Weber said. “You throw in the injuries, and it has been a snowball. It has been a difficult run. A lot of good things happened my first two years. Now things not quite as good have happened. You have just got to keep battling.”
Perhaps, he said, this team was destined to learn things the hard way.
“I don’t care to learn this way,” he said, “but for the big picture maybe you have to learn something the hard way to move forward.”
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article10894919.html#storylink=cpy
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http://www.kstatesports.com/collegesportslive/?media=474440
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A blast from the past!
“We needed somebody to be special tonight and we didn’t have anybody play at that magic level.”
http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2015-02-21/k-state-fades-69-42-loss-baylor
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A blast from the past!
“We needed somebody to be special tonight and we didn’t have anybody play at that magic level.”
http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2015-02-21/k-state-fades-69-42-loss-baylor
And we didn't have a head coach be special and coach at a magic level, either. This head coach never will.
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Jesus this is embarrassing
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still
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still
:ROFL:
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oscar needs to be nicer about court storming.
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Who was oscar yelling at during the court storm? Some random fan?
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Who was oscar yelling at during the court storm? Some random fan?
he was really upset
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"Could you have believed it? How could you have guessed that anything like this was going to happen?"
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I used to think the problem was oscar. Today I thought the problem was oscar. Then I watched our guys execute tonight. oscar has clearly taught them how to play basketball, nights like tonight don't just happen.
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And neither do nights like Texas Southern, TCU, TT, Long Beach St., Pitt and on and on and on.
This is oscar
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Yep. #bruceketball is a freaking roller coaster.
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Good leaders and motivators can get their team to play like that every night. They shouldn't need the big stage to get it done.
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oscar is both really good at coaching and really bad. also sucks with getting players to buy in
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I used to think the problem was oscar. Today I thought the problem was oscar. Then I watched our guys execute tonight. oscar has clearly taught them how to play basketball, nights like tonight don't just happen.
The baylor game is the one that mind fucks you. So many stupid mistakes. Hopefully with experience next year, we can step it up.
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"Could you have believed it? How could you have guessed that anything like this was going to happen?"
WOOLY! IS THAT YOU?
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Ugh, he's one of those people.
“Video games you can shut off and not lose and play again,” he said.
See more at: http://themercury.com/articles/cats-host-cyclones-in-home-finale#sthash.v8STzdtL.dpuf
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kick his ass, pete
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https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/572290870344622080
Why don't opposing players who bury 3s despite sideline antics stare down oscar like this flood aggie did Marcus?
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http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/01/06/rajon-rondo-appears-to-kick-at-deron-williams-from-bench-during-play-video/
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https://twitter.com/brettregan/status/685502215193116677
That name screams Wooly and K-State
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https://twitter.com/brettregan/status/685502215193116677
That name screams Wooly and K-State
So does his recruiting profile :Yuck:
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Hopefully we can beat out St. Bonaventure for his services :goodbyecruelworld:
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https://twitter.com/brettregan/status/685502215193116677
That name screams Wooly and K-State
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYNnWHDUkAAk5cN.jpg:large)
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The coincidence is way too strong there. I first thought it would have to be a mistake. I did like Cartier, though.
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it is fate this kid comes here and his number will be 41
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martin will swoop in on this guy in the spring. :angry:
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http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2016-01-18/k-state-going-through-growing-pains-rugged-big-12 (http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2016-01-18/k-state-going-through-growing-pains-rugged-big-12)
“It’s a learning process,” Weber said. “You play well against Texas Tech, you have to come back the next game and play better against a better team. They want to win. It’s Martin Luther King Day and no school — we start school (Tuesday) — and they’re in here this morning working on their shooting and in the weight room getting better, and that’s all you can ask for.”
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Yep. Working on shooting and lifting some weights is all you can ask for. Good call coach.
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Try Hard Chart.
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It says everything about oscar.
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K-State plays Wednesday at No. 13 Baylor, and Drew expects an intense game.
“He’s done a tremendous job,” Drew said of Weber. “Anytime you have that much turnover, it’s hard to get guys to jell and buy in right away. Since day one, it looks like they’ve done that. They play extremely hard and fight you for every possession. It looks like he enjoys coaching this group and it looks like they enjoy playing together. It looks like they’ve bought into what he instills, which is that toughness and team effort and attitude.”
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I bet coaches love telling the world the crap coaches in their conf are gold.
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I bet coaches love telling the world the crap coaches in their conf are gold.
It would be quite fun.
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I bet coaches love telling the world the crap coaches in their conf are gold.
It would be quite fun.
Yeah, just look at him post-quote.
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i'm going to google it in two seconds, but i honestly don't know if we play tonight or tomorrow, or at all until saturday. i haven't cared this little about k-state hoops in a long, long time. if ever. when we were bad before, i was too young and naive to really know what i was missing.
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i'm going to google it in two seconds, but i honestly don't know if we play tonight or tomorrow, or at all until saturday. i haven't cared this little about k-state hoops in a long, long time. if ever. when we were bad before, i was too young and naive to really know what i was missing.
Even when we are on, it's always ESPN3 in Chicago, which is too much work to watch these Cats
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Chicago doesn't have espnu or espnews? :sdeek:
But yeah, I'll maybe watch one of the games that doesn't have pelvic mesh commercials
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Chicago doesn't have espnu or espnews? :sdeek:
But yeah, I'll maybe watch one of the games that doesn't have pelvic mesh commercials
Fox
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it's that I want to kill oscar, it's just that I want him not to be alive anymore.
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oscar didn't hire oscar.
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oscar can live to 105, I just don't want to see him as coach of the cats for one more game.
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oscar had nothing to do with that loss, if anything he kept a road game vs KU interesting for once.
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oscar had nothing to do with that loss, if anything he kept a road game vs KU interesting for once.
one of the crowning moments of the season. cat fans can sleep proud tonight.
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He put together a nice game plan. Hard to anticipate your entire rotation essentially being disqualified midway through the 1st half
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Poor oscar, did his very best and everyone let him down.
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oscar had nothing to do with that loss, if anything he kept a road game vs KU interesting for once.
Yep, stayed within 20 of the worst sqwawk team in 26 years.
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Hard to anticipate your entire rotation essentially being disqualified midway through the 1st half
i've placed an asterisk next to the game on my schedule, and i suggest you do the same.
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Yeah, I'm not saying that, but I guess that would be you're usual response on here. Foul trouble, phog calls, no stokes, etc. every time we made a run, some dumb crap foul would be called. Weber is in charge of the roster, but he can't help that he brought in two bigs that have the plaque and can't play. Honestly, I never planned on being remotely this entertained tonight. He kept it more interesting than Frank there and has beaten them more than Frank. I think we take them at home.
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oscar had nothing to do with that loss, if anything he kept a road game vs KU interesting for once.
Yep, stayed within 20 of the worst sqwawk team in 26 years.
Yank. You must be 12.
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I think we take them at home.
you've been right before, i'm sure you will be again.
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Their two significant runs were triggered and largely supported by wtf calls.
It's not unreasonable at all to think we'll handle this not very good or tough team at home. There's no way we'll get nicked for so many soft calls and then get nothing at the rim on the offensive end.
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I think we take them at home.
you've been right before, i'm sure you will be again.
Actually, I have been many times, including last year!
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A double digit loss is rarely a moral victory, but tonight we did it. Nothing is unreachable now.
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Yeah, I'm not saying that, but I guess that would be you're usual response on here. Foul trouble, phog calls, no stokes, etc. every time we made a run, some dumb crap foul would be called. Weber is in charge of the roster, but he can't help that he brought in two bigs that have the plaque and can't play. Honestly, I never planned on being remotely this entertained tonight. He kept it more interesting than Frank there and has beaten them more than Frank. I think we take them at home.
We'll lose to them at home too. We'll lose to a lot of other teams as well, because we just aren't very good at at basketball.
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A double digit loss is rarely a moral victory, but tonight we did it. Nothing is unreachable now.
With oscar, the bar just keeps getting lower.
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I don't think you understand, have you ever been snake bit before? It's tough.
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I have been many times, including last year!
twice already this year!
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oscar had nothing to do with that loss, if anything he kept a road game vs KU interesting for once.
one of the crowning moments of the season. cat wins can sleep proud tonight.
Still Top 50 in kenpom!
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Still Top 50 in kenpom!
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When was the last time you were entertained at AFH? Minus, '06? I mean, eff oscar, but what did you think would happen tonight? Some of you are acting like this is the breaking point, just because he teased you for a bit. Also sys l, I've been more right on games than you have.
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tonight was the last time for me
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tonight was the last time for me
That's what they always say!
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sys l, I've been more right on games than you have.
congratulations, t. roosevelt would be proud.
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How do I get something I recorded on the tunein app on my ipad off and onto something I can play here?
#oscar
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Heard someone say, "they have exceeded my wildest expectations for this year."
I responded, "your wildest expectations did not include an NIT invite?"
Him: "I see them as an NIT team. I love Budke."
Me: (thinking....Ef it, I don't have the time nor the inclination to discuss this further)
Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)
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When was the last time you were entertained at AFH? Minus, '06? I mean, eff oscar, but what did you think would happen tonight? Some of you are acting like this is the breaking point, just because he teased you for a bit. Also sys l, I've been more right on games than you have.
I wasn't entertained tonight anymore than I would losing by double digits at Tech. That was a cripple fight and there may have been only two big 12 teams who would have lost that game to KU on that night with them looking like that.
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I think we take them at home.
you've been right before, i'm sure you will be again.
Actually, I have been many times, including last year!
Broken clocks, twice a day, etc.
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coach self (one of the best) was very complimentary of the cats last night and acknowledged several times during post game interviews that we were without deathbite
it's funny how a coach his caliber can recognize the quality of job that oscar has done with our team, yet the goRetards here continue to bash him
pastries for thought, carry on
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There were not enough LOL oscar moments for me last night. I was expecting better.
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Yeah, I'm not saying that, but I guess that would be you're usual response on here. Foul trouble, phog calls, no stokes, etc. every time we made a run, some dumb crap foul would be called. Weber is in charge of the roster, but he can't help that he brought in two bigs that have the plaque and can't play. Honestly, I never planned on being remotely this entertained tonight. He kept it more interesting than Frank there and has beaten them more than Frank. I think we take them at home.
what does their dental health have to do with playing basketball?
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i think he meant an MVP plaque
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that makes more sense
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Plaque is a symptom of mono ????
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:facepalm:
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KU isn't that good, K-State wasn't playing all that great and built a 10 point lead, and just like their coach they completely withered under a little pressure from a KU team that's one of the least capable of actually making anyone clinch up out of any KU team I've seen in years, I mean, like decades. They're not the least bit intimidating or physically imposing and Oscar and his guys folded.
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coach self (one of the best) was very complimentary of the cats last night and acknowledged several times during post game interviews that we were without deathbite
it's funny how a coach his caliber can recognize the quality of job that oscar has done with our team, yet the goRetards here continue to bash him
pastries for thought, carry on
Has Self, or any basketball coach for that matter, EVER said anything derogatory about their opponent's coaching or team? It's a tight fraternity. If they never say anything negative, then you can dismiss their faux praise as meaningless coach-speak.
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that makes more sense
amazingly, it does
Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)
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Current snapshot de oscar at K-State:
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Pretty solid trend there. Almost across the board.
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look's like de oscar is mopping up on shitty teams, and sucking ass against teams with a pulse
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Has the same number of home losses as Bill Self
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Pretty solid trend there. Almost across the board.
Road win % is on the uptick!
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this year, at least, the apparent trend is magnified (when wins/losses are binned in categories) by the dichotomous schedule. kstate has played a lot of good teams and a lot of bad teams and very few teams that are more or less at their same level. that will change a little in the next few weeks as kstate finally gets a trio of kenpom b games.
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Schedule-makers.
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Schedule-makers.
they did their best, but the worm eventually must turn.