Author Topic: CHIEFS (Read 2165651 times)

star seed 7 · « **Reply #20750 on:** March 18, 2022, 03:32:15 PM »

Basically the money saved keeping frank Clark bought juju

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #20751 on:** March 18, 2022, 03:32:42 PM »

All for it. This could be fun.

XocolateThundarr · « **Reply #20752 on:** March 18, 2022, 03:32:53 PM »

8manpick · « **Reply #20753 on:** March 18, 2022, 03:36:36 PM »

I am a season ticket holder as of yesterday

kim carnes · « **Reply #20754 on:** March 18, 2022, 03:37:02 PM »

I’m ok with it bc it’s only for one year.

XocolateThundarr · « **Reply #20755 on:** March 18, 2022, 03:42:10 PM »

Institutional Control · « **Reply #20756 on:** March 18, 2022, 03:54:30 PM »

Better than Jarvis Landry.

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mocat · « **Reply #20757 on:** March 18, 2022, 04:41:25 PM »

would we have won the 2021 AFC championship game if he would have signed last offseason? maybe, idk. i still put the 2nd half mostly on pat

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #20758 on:** March 18, 2022, 05:35:26 PM »

Veach is criminally awesome!

https://twitter.com/mikegarafolo/status/1504940830297145346?s=21

mocat · « **Reply #20759 on:** March 18, 2022, 05:37:11 PM »

lol

https://twitter.com/BigMacDak/status/1504917910325768195?t=8lE9fF5l3jzXgZwLVQekkg&s=19

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #20760 on:** March 23, 2022, 10:14:15 AM »

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1506650156623704064?s=20&t=F4wBLhKvZWWuyvYAKtEboQ

yoga-like_abana · « **Reply #20761 on:** March 23, 2022, 10:20:50 AM »

Sucks short term but for the best long term.

mocat · « **Reply #20762 on:** March 23, 2022, 10:24:34 AM »

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #20763 on:** March 23, 2022, 10:24:48 AM »

Those would be some high draft picks if they could make it for this year. We got a great rental deal with Tyreek when he was going through his crap. It was only a matter of time before he got paid-paid.

Justwin · « **Reply #20764 on:** March 23, 2022, 10:25:14 AM »

Quote from: 420seriouscat69 on March 23, 2022, 10:14:15 AM

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1506650156623704064?s=20&t=F4wBLhKvZWWuyvYAKtEboQ

This would be selling high and really opening up flexibility with the cap. I would expect a better return than the Packers got for Adams.

XocolateThundarr · « **Reply #20765 on:** March 23, 2022, 10:25:47 AM »

As much as I like Tyreek, I don't think he is near the weapon that he was a few years ago.

mocat · « **Reply #20766 on:** March 23, 2022, 10:42:03 AM »

Quote from: XocolateThundarr on March 23, 2022, 10:25:47 AM

As much as I like Tyreek, I don't think he is near the weapon that he was a few years ago.

you're nuts. you think we should get a shittier receiver so that defenses stop playing 2-high all the time?

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #20767 on:** March 23, 2022, 10:44:09 AM »

To be fair, defenses adjusted tremendiously against our offense last year, after they got the blueprint from the SB. He still had a really good year and can make a first down out of nowhere on a short route. I do like the idea of selling high for him, before he gets the bag tho and I bet we'd go after another decent WR.

Justwin · « **Reply #20768 on:** March 23, 2022, 10:45:55 AM »

Quote from: mocat on March 23, 2022, 10:42:03 AM

Quote from: XocolateThundarr on March 23, 2022, 10:25:47 AM
As much as I like Tyreek, I don't think he is near the weapon that he was a few years ago.

you're nuts. you think we should get a shittier receiver so that defenses stop playing 2-high all the time?

We might get a receiver that's not as good, but will cost a lot less.

I think we should get two first round picks for Tyreek, and if we do, I would be 100% on board for trading him. I do not think he will continue to produce at his current level given his age and playing style. The aging curve is not kind to receivers. The amount of money he is wanting is not prudent with our current cap situation.

mocat · « **Reply #20769 on:** March 23, 2022, 10:50:44 AM »

Quote from: Justwin on March 23, 2022, 10:45:55 AM

Quote from: mocat on March 23, 2022, 10:42:03 AM
Quote from: XocolateThundarr on March 23, 2022, 10:25:47 AM
As much as I like Tyreek, I don't think he is near the weapon that he was a few years ago.

you're nuts. you think we should get a shittier receiver so that defenses stop playing 2-high all the time?

We might get a receiver that's not as good, but will cost a lot less.

I think we should get two first round picks for Tyreek, and if we do, I would be 100% on board for trading him. I do not think he will continue to produce at his current level given his age and playing style. The aging curve is not kind to receivers. The amount of money he is wanting is not prudent with our current cap situation.

i agree on principle but disagree on Tyreek.

Justwin · « **Reply #20770 on:** March 23, 2022, 11:03:47 AM »

Quote from: mocat on March 23, 2022, 10:50:44 AM

Quote from: Justwin on March 23, 2022, 10:45:55 AM
Quote from: mocat on March 23, 2022, 10:42:03 AM
Quote from: XocolateThundarr on March 23, 2022, 10:25:47 AM
As much as I like Tyreek, I don't think he is near the weapon that he was a few years ago.

you're nuts. you think we should get a shittier receiver so that defenses stop playing 2-high all the time?

We might get a receiver that's not as good, but will cost a lot less.

I think we should get two first round picks for Tyreek, and if we do, I would be 100% on board for trading him. I do not think he will continue to produce at his current level given his age and playing style. The aging curve is not kind to receivers. The amount of money he is wanting is not prudent with our current cap situation.

i agree on principle but disagree on Tyreek.

Look what happened to Julio Jones. I'm not saying that Tyreek will just fall off a cliff. He should have a very good 2022 season, but I bet his production will start to decline after that.

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Since 1990, 38 wide receivers (leaving aside wideouts who made it for special teams contributions) have been named to the Pro Bowl in their respective age-29 seasons. How many of them stayed at that level for years to come?

Using fantasy points as a proxy for wide receiver performance, the answer is not many. Of those 38 wide receivers who were stars at 29, 24 failed to produce a single top-five performance afterward. That includes Hall of Fame-caliber wideouts such as Tim Brown, Isaac oscar, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, A.J. Green and Larry Fitzgerald. Guys who were perennially top-five or top-10 wideouts such as Gary Clark and Chad Johnson never came close to that mark again.

Players faded for other reasons, too. Michael Irvin, Sterling Sharpe and Rob Moore suffered career-ending injuries. Calvin Johnson chose to retire. Antonio Brown did what Antonio Brown has done over the past few years. I certainly hope Adams stays healthy and plays well for a long time, but there's always a meaningful risk for veteran players.

Just four players have managed multiple top-five seasons after their age-29 campaign: Terrell Owens, Marvin Harrison, Cris Carter and Jerry Rice. I wouldn't fault you for thinking Adams belongs in that group, but we would have said the same thing about Fitzgerald or Jones or Wayne, and not one of those guys was able to make it back to those same heights. (For what it's worth, as good as Adams is, none of the guys on this list should be compared to Rice, who was coming off of six consecutive top-two seasons and still had four more to go.)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33531494/davante-adams-trade-raiders-why-las-vegas-regret-deal-expectations-star-receiver-means-afc-more?device=featurephone

kstate4life · « **Reply #20771 on:** March 23, 2022, 11:06:21 AM »

Also, Hopkins...

kim carnes · « **Reply #20772 on:** March 23, 2022, 11:07:46 AM »

Quote from: Justwin on March 23, 2022, 10:45:55 AM

Quote from: mocat on March 23, 2022, 10:42:03 AM
Quote from: XocolateThundarr on March 23, 2022, 10:25:47 AM
As much as I like Tyreek, I don't think he is near the weapon that he was a few years ago.

you're nuts. you think we should get a shittier receiver so that defenses stop playing 2-high all the time?

We might get a receiver that's not as good, but will cost a lot less.

I think we should get two first round picks for Tyreek, and if we do, I would be 100% on board for trading him. I do not think he will continue to produce at his current level given his age and playing style. The aging curve is not kind to receivers. The amount of money he is wanting is not prudent with our current cap situation.

We will not be getting two first round picks for him unless Mickey Mouse is gm’ing an nfl franchise.

kim carnes · « **Reply #20773 on:** March 23, 2022, 11:09:02 AM »

Quote from: XocolateThundarr on March 23, 2022, 10:25:47 AM

As much as I like Tyreek, I don't think he is near the weapon that he was a few years ago.

Uhhhh

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #20774 on:** March 23, 2022, 11:10:11 AM »

Quote from: kim carnes on March 23, 2022, 11:07:46 AM

Quote from: Justwin on March 23, 2022, 10:45:55 AM
Quote from: mocat on March 23, 2022, 10:42:03 AM
Quote from: XocolateThundarr on March 23, 2022, 10:25:47 AM
As much as I like Tyreek, I don't think he is near the weapon that he was a few years ago.

you're nuts. you think we should get a shittier receiver so that defenses stop playing 2-high all the time?

We might get a receiver that's not as good, but will cost a lot less.

I think we should get two first round picks for Tyreek, and if we do, I would be 100% on board for trading him. I do not think he will continue to produce at his current level given his age and playing style. The aging curve is not kind to receivers. The amount of money he is wanting is not prudent with our current cap situation.

We will not be getting two first round picks for him unless Mickey Mouse is gm’ing an nfl franchise.

Thank god the Jets exist and are interested.