2024 Presidential Race

[CNS]

Medical insurance is nearly as, or more, expensive as a lot of folks mortgages or rents for their family.  Going to a single payer would be huge for raising a family.

Wages have to go up.  Taxes need to not go up on working and middle class(which is what trump's existing cut is about to do).  Regulation is needed on plenty of spaces like insurance, medical, etc. 

Best move in the world would be if today's GOP actually embraced the majority of their base, removed the religion component of their message, and actually enacted policies to raise wages, and lower costs for workers.

Let me get this straight, you want politicians to reduce the cost of a lot things while simultaneously raising wages?

On thinks like drugs, medical services, and medical insurance, yes.   

[Sandstone Outcropping]

https://x.com/DavidBahnsen/status/1813690557056905367

[Kat Kid]

get it done, politicos.   

https://x.com/Brian_Riedl/status/1813322266517635082

Well sure, but I think the $16 for every $1 in taxes is a little weird way to put it because it is hard to put a price on a lot of services the government performs. We know the cost of constructing, staffing, maintaining things like a public education, parks, a library but I don’t believe that it is so easy to put a market price on everything. Some things are value judgements that supersede the market, others have difficult to quantify multiplier effects or context or cultural specific dimensions.

It just is so reductive and exhausting to impose upon everything this lens. It is useful but not the only thing.

[steve dave]

I prefer apartment living in a walkable neighborhood to having a yard. I'd actually like a smaller apartment than I have now. But I'm just built different/elite.

I not only demand my giant suburban McMansion be huge I also need an equally giant(er) metal heated/cooled building next to it with a full infield and a hittrax cage. But I’m just built different (in youth baseball specifically).


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[michigancat]

I prefer apartment living in a walkable neighborhood to having a yard. I'd actually like a smaller apartment than I have now. But I'm just built different/elite.

I not only demand my giant suburban McMansion be huge I also need an equally giant(er) metal heated/cooled building next to it with a full infield and a hittrax cage. But I’m just built different (in youth baseball specifically).


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Yeah I was going to say most kids don't play in yards (they would rather go to the park) but you were the one exception I could think of. Yards are boring AF unless pops is going to run bp every available minute

[Dugout DickStone]

I personally don't think raising kids is that expensive right now

The biggest issue is probably housing costs. It's a lot harder for one parent to stay home than it used to be. Everyone pays that, though, so it's not really a "cost of having kids" thing.

It's kind of hard to raise kids in an apartment I'd think.

Well neither candidate is going to do a single thing that will enable all adults of child bearing age to afford a single family home with a yard either.

Hey, LSOC, there's no rule requiring you to chime in on every conversation you think is stupid.  We're talking about this thing.  eff's sake.

Agreed.  Sounds like you want more affordable health care and lower taxes for middle class so they can afford the preposterous cost of housing.

Of the 2 candidates the DNC one is closer to this than the GOP one. 

[michigancat]

There are far worse offenders at chiming in on conversations they think are stupid than dugstone

[wetwillie]

I prefer apartment living in a walkable neighborhood to having a yard. I'd actually like a smaller apartment than I have now. But I'm just built different/elite.

I not only demand my giant suburban McMansion be huge I also need an equally giant(er) metal heated/cooled building next to it with a full infield and a hittrax cage. But I’m just built different (in youth baseball specifically).


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Did you stop at 2 because you didn't think you could afford a full blown field house?

[DQ12]

There are far worse offenders at chiming in on conversations they think are stupid than dugstone

He just did it twice and it was like, dude.  Relax we’re all just talking here.

[star seed 7]

I prefer apartment living in a walkable neighborhood to having a yard. I'd actually like a smaller apartment than I have now. But I'm just built different/elite.

I not only demand my giant suburban McMansion be huge I also need an equally giant(er) metal heated/cooled building next to it with a full infield and a hittrax cage. But I’m just built different (in youth baseball specifically).


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Did you stop at 2 because you didn't think you could afford a full blown field house?

My aunt and uncle in Texas have a "bunk house" with like 6 bedrooms and 2 full bathrooms. There is also a loft studio apartment over the garage. The main house only has the master bedroom. I'm sure sd could afford something like that

[michigancat]

There are far worse offenders at chiming in on conversations they think are stupid than dugstone

He just did it twice and it was like, dude.  Relax we’re all just talking here.

In this case I think he was actually making a point,  you just might not have realized or liked it

[steve dave]

I prefer apartment living in a walkable neighborhood to having a yard. I'd actually like a smaller apartment than I have now. But I'm just built different/elite.

I not only demand my giant suburban McMansion be huge I also need an equally giant(er) metal heated/cooled building next to it with a full infield and a hittrax cage. But I’m just built different (in youth baseball specifically).


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Did you stop at 2 because you didn't think you could afford a full blown field house?

I’m a simple man with simple USSSA training needs


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[steve dave]

I prefer apartment living in a walkable neighborhood to having a yard. I'd actually like a smaller apartment than I have now. But I'm just built different/elite.

I not only demand my giant suburban McMansion be huge I also need an equally giant(er) metal heated/cooled building next to it with a full infield and a hittrax cage. But I’m just built different (in youth baseball specifically).


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Did you stop at 2 because you didn't think you could afford a full blown field house?

I’m a simple man with simple USSSA training needs


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But we are going to have a rapsodo for sure


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[steve dave]

Also a hack attack and like 5 dozen taterballs


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[BIG APPLE CAT]

get it done, politicos.   

https://x.com/Brian_Riedl/status/1813322266517635082

The fact that this is your worldview assures me that I’m going about life the right way

[sonofdaxjones]

Neither of these 2 candidates will do a single solitary thing to change the price of having a kid over the next 4 years so, not sure why this is in the Presidential thread.

Agreed and it’s 1000% the dumbest rough ridin' thing to ever hit this blog.


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[star seed 7]

That's a bit harsh

[OB_Won]

I prefer apartment living in a walkable neighborhood to having a yard. I'd actually like a smaller apartment than I have now. But I'm just built different/elite.

I not only demand my giant suburban McMansion be huge I also need an equally giant(er) metal heated/cooled building next to it with a full infield and a hittrax cage. But I’m just built different (in youth baseball specifically).


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Did you stop at 2 because you didn't think you could afford a full blown field house?

I’m a simple man with simple USSSA training needs


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But we are going to have a rapsodo for sure


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This is a man in need of a Trajekt pitching system.

[DQ12]

That's a bit harsh

Also, nobody has said or suggested that either president is going to make kids cheaper

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Have we heard anything else about the motivations of the would be assassin? Seems like he fits the prototype for an early 21st century mass shooter: 20-something loser with access to his parents' arsenal, etc. Might have targeted a classroom full of third graders instead if they were in season.

[michigancat]

That's a bit harsh

Also, nobody has said or suggested that either president is going to make kids cheaper

Nobody brought up the cost of raising children until you did in a discussion of a VP candidate using "childless" as an insult to women in the 2024 Presidential Race thread. So even if you didn't make a literal suggestion that the presidential candidates can impact cost of raising children, it's reasonable to think you were implying that they might given the context.

[Spracne]

This has been a Phog-esque thread tangent.

[DQ12]

That's a bit harsh

Also, nobody has said or suggested that either president is going to make kids cheaper

Nobody brought up the cost of raising children until you did in a discussion of a VP candidate using "childless" as an insult to women in the 2024 Presidential Race thread. So even if you didn't make a literal suggestion that the presidential candidates can impact cost of raising children, it's reasonable to think you were implying that they might given the context.

I did that like, pages before in response to CFB referencing costs:

What is the logic behind using “childless” as a derogatory adjective for women?

Why the eff would someone who wants to be a  leader of a nation founded on the principle of freedom do that? What goes through your mind when you say that?

I have definitely seen the argument from the right that people without children don't have an investment in future generations and therefore should have no vote in the present day.

JFC. Again, with these people who want to deny reproductive care, childcare, education, etc are bewildered that people are taking upon themselves to not do those things and then be pissed off that people aren't is insane.

As insane as denying people rights for where they are right now. Really, if that is their argument, then only women having kids should vote. Men, and women who can't/won't shouldn't be allowed. Which is all insane as well.

Anyway, we can get this thread back on the rails and keep it exclusively about the 2024 election.  Though, this foray was nice for no other reason than it got Dax and LSOC to agree.

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[Pete]

This 5% rent cap suggestion from Biden seems like political pandering and obviously something the courts would stop.

Also seems foolish because why the eff would developers build more housing if rents were artificially limited by government intervention.  Don’t we need more housing?