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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6725 on: May 15, 2020, 07:43:02 PM »
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6726 on: May 15, 2020, 07:50:37 PM »
When is next death poll
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China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6727 on: May 15, 2020, 07:57:18 PM »
So everyone with a second home left NYC. No surprise there.
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6728 on: May 15, 2020, 07:59:19 PM »
Quote from: wetwillie on May 15, 2020, 07:50:37 PM
When is next death poll

i haven't thought of anything interesting to poll that isn't just a restatement of the still extant poll on deaths by may 31.  no posters making outrageous claims, no widely cited models obviously and laughably off target.
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6729 on: May 15, 2020, 08:30:57 PM »
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6730 on: May 15, 2020, 09:30:49 PM »
Quote from: Bqqkie Pimp on May 15, 2020, 02:42:24 PM
Who could've ever guessed this might happen...

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1261377767456813056

You don't think some prisoners should be released early due to coronavirus?
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6731 on: May 15, 2020, 10:25:08 PM »
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6732 on: May 16, 2020, 12:41:22 AM »
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6733 on: May 16, 2020, 12:42:57 AM »
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6734 on: May 16, 2020, 12:50:37 AM »
Looks like Nebraska just isn't saying numbers at plants
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6735 on: May 16, 2020, 01:52:29 AM »
Quote from: michigancat on May 16, 2020, 12:42:57 AM
Quote from: michigancat on May 16, 2020, 12:41:22 AM
https://twitter.com/mattocko/status/1261504729361772544

https://twitter.com/hilaryluros/status/1261505060137127936
What's crazy about Georgia is their numbers are pretty good! Why?!?

Isn't this what we expected? Disregard they were earlier than the optimal models but if there is separation isn't this what was the plan?

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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6736 on: May 16, 2020, 02:06:06 AM »


Quote from: Phil Titola on May 16, 2020, 01:52:29 AM
Quote from: michigancat on May 16, 2020, 12:42:57 AM
Quote from: michigancat on May 16, 2020, 12:41:22 AM
https://twitter.com/mattocko/status/1261504729361772544

https://twitter.com/hilaryluros/status/1261505060137127936
What's crazy about Georgia is their numbers are pretty good! Why?!?

Isn't this what we expected? Disregard they were earlier than the optimal models but if there is separation isn't this what was the plan?

Look at the x-axis labels of the graph. My "why?" is referring to why mix them up when it really isn't that bad?
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6737 on: May 16, 2020, 08:58:26 AM »
Not that a report of cases on a day by day basis would be that helpful either...
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6738 on: May 16, 2020, 09:05:50 AM »
I have zero interest in looking at that closely. If they were merely trying to adjust for weekend reporting dips, though, that seems okay!
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6739 on: May 16, 2020, 09:07:49 AM »
Quote from: chum1 on May 16, 2020, 09:05:50 AM
I have zero interest in looking at that closely. If they were merely trying to adjust for weekend reporting dips, though, that seems okay!
They rearranged the dates so it looked like the case numbers were declining
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6740 on: May 16, 2020, 09:10:52 AM »
Quote from: chum1 on May 16, 2020, 09:05:50 AM
I have zero interest in looking at that closely. If they were merely trying to adjust for weekend reporting dips, though, that seems okay!
Yeah they’re out of order, and even if they weren’t out of order, it would still show a steady decline.  Really weird that they got cute with the x-axis there.
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6741 on: May 16, 2020, 09:11:29 AM »
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6742 on: May 16, 2020, 09:17:33 AM »
Quote from: DQ12 on May 16, 2020, 09:11:29 AM
https://twitter.com/seantrende/status/1261651271817351169?s=21


I agree with a lot in that thread.

Me too. Getting frustrated with the never open crowd who bitch that any opening is too early and only death and despair await us.
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6743 on: May 16, 2020, 09:48:52 AM »
We haven't seen any news outlet speak about any state with that level of nuance. And watching the clip, the guy flat out said the overall numbers are pretty flat and they might be handling it right. It's certainly one of the least egregious data discussions we've seen.

I think there's a similar problem in defining what "reopening" means state by state. I had a call with someone in Texas and the way he described their reopening sounded almost exactly like California except you could get a haircut.
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6744 on: May 16, 2020, 09:55:25 AM »
Quote from: michigancat on May 16, 2020, 09:48:52 AM
We haven't seen any news outlet speak about any state with that level of nuance. And watching the clip, the guy flat out said the overall numbers are pretty flat and they might be handling it right. It's certainly one of the least egregious data discussions we've seen.
Reporting growth in raw case counts and contextualizing it with testing growth doesn't require much nuance, imo.
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6745 on: May 16, 2020, 10:03:49 AM »


Quote from: DQ12 on May 16, 2020, 09:55:25 AM
Quote from: michigancat on May 16, 2020, 09:48:52 AM
We haven't seen any news outlet speak about any state with that level of nuance. And watching the clip, the guy flat out said the overall numbers are pretty flat and they might be handling it right. It's certainly one of the least egregious data discussions we've seen.
Reporting growth in raw case counts and contextualizing it with testing growth doesn't require much nuance, imo.

Who has done it well?
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6746 on: May 16, 2020, 10:07:40 AM »
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Quote from: DQ12 on May 16, 2020, 09:55:25 AM
Quote from: michigancat on May 16, 2020, 09:48:52 AM
We haven't seen any news outlet speak about any state with that level of nuance. And watching the clip, the guy flat out said the overall numbers are pretty flat and they might be handling it right. It's certainly one of the least egregious data discussions we've seen.
Reporting growth in raw case counts and contextualizing it with testing growth doesn't require much nuance, imo.

Who has done it well?
On TV?  Nobody that I've seen, really.

In terms of day-to-day broad, digestible data analysis, I think Nate Silver aligns pretty closely with how I've seen things.
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6747 on: May 16, 2020, 10:36:04 AM »
my rant was more in general and it ends up hurting the real mission.  See Dax's fear porn references.
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6748 on: May 16, 2020, 10:43:48 AM »
Quote from: Phil Titola on May 16, 2020, 10:36:04 AM
my rant was more in general and it ends up hurting the real mission.  See Dax's fear porn references.
Agree.  It harms the actual greater dialogue that society should be having.
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Re: China Did This! (Canadian PM out of hiding . . .finally) Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #6749 on: May 16, 2020, 10:46:48 AM »
Quote from: DQ12 on May 16, 2020, 10:43:48 AM
Quote from: Phil Titola on May 16, 2020, 10:36:04 AM
my rant was more in general and it ends up hurting the real mission.  See Dax's fear porn references.
Agree.  It harms the actual greater dialogue that society should be having.

If it bleeds, it leads I guess.
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