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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3450 on: April 07, 2020, 10:03:35 AM »
A "silver bullet" drug isn't going to be developed or tested any faster than a vaccine. Why even bother developing a treatment for a disease the population is going to immunize themselves to?

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3451 on: April 07, 2020, 10:17:33 AM »
I wake up every day hoping a silver bullet has been found and made available.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3452 on: April 07, 2020, 10:20:09 AM »
This is all making me hungry for Scheme and thirsty for a crap ton of Coors Light 'num bottles.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3453 on: April 07, 2020, 10:23:41 AM »
A "silver bullet" drug isn't going to be developed or tested any faster than a vaccine. Why even bother developing a treatment for a disease the population is going to immunize themselves to?

Gates and Fauci are working as fast as they can.  If it weren't for those blasted kids with that talking dog in the Mystery Van finding out that hydroxychloroquine can help we'd probably be further along.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3454 on: April 07, 2020, 10:25:55 AM »
This is all making me hungry for Scheme and thirsty for a crap ton of Coors Light 'num bottles.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3456 on: April 07, 2020, 11:05:18 AM »
A "silver bullet" drug isn't going to be developed or tested any faster than a vaccine. Why even bother developing a treatment for a disease the population is going to immunize themselves to?

Because as herd immunity becomes a thing you save a bunch of people's lives and they suffer less.

If you can find an existing drug, sure. If you are developing a drug, you won't be able to beat the vaccine to the market, anyway. There just isn't any sort of market for a drug that chloroquine would be a replacement for.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3457 on: April 07, 2020, 11:17:56 AM »
It's not hydroxychloroquine, per se. It's zinc. Higher concentrations of intracellular zinc makes it harder for viruses to replicate. But not all viruses, just some. Hydroxychloroquine acts as a ionophore for zinc, helping it get into your cells easier. This has been known for a super long time. But there's not a lot of science to suggest that it improves things alot. People that take zinc when they have a cold might get over it maybe 1 day faster. Is that worth it?

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Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3458 on: April 07, 2020, 11:30:18 AM »
Yes, it’s worth it. Thanks for dropping knowledge itt Trey.


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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3459 on: April 07, 2020, 11:34:39 AM »
Where has this "zinc kicks the cold's ass up and down the block an entire day earlier" information been my entire life?

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3460 on: April 07, 2020, 11:36:58 AM »
brainstorming on infection rate in black americans, in no order:

urban population
public transit
diabetes, asthma, heart conditions
high % airport workers
religious

i did see one person on twitter speculating about a biochemical explanation for higher rates of confirmed infections for black americans.  not sure i found it super compelling, nor do i know the person's qualifications.

Your first three bullet points are essentially what the surgeon general said. A family physician and epidemiologist on CNN mentioned systemic racism and residential segregation which I think build off of the aforementioned bullet points. The Illinois governor mentioned systemic disinvestment as one of the causes behind the disparity in African American deaths in Illinois.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3461 on: April 07, 2020, 12:43:03 PM »
Where has this "zinc kicks the cold's ass up and down the block an entire day earlier" information been my entire life?

do you even cold-eeze bro?

also cleaning out the shed i discovered the masks i bought for painting my grill a couple years ago are N95's

i only have 6 do i

a. donate these
b. wear them in public and draw the judgment of others
c. wear them in public but cover with bandana to deflect judgement of others?

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« Reply #3462 on: April 07, 2020, 12:51:29 PM »
Sell them at 8x retail price.

Also, I have always been told cold-eeze doesn't work.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3463 on: April 07, 2020, 12:53:58 PM »
Where has this "zinc kicks the cold's ass up and down the block an entire day earlier" information been my entire life?

do you even cold-eeze bro?

also cleaning out the shed i discovered the masks i bought for painting my grill a couple years ago are N95's

i only have 6 do i

a. donate these
b. wear them in public and draw the judgment of others
c. wear them in public but cover with bandana to deflect judgement of others?

I'd go with c, personally.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3464 on: April 07, 2020, 12:57:23 PM »
New Orleans is like 60-65% African American and that’s one of the main epicenters for it.

I'm not picking on you, fanman, but this is the second time this has come up and it's been dismissed by essentially "well duh, lots of black people live there." Even if this is just dumb luck of hitting metro areas where there are higher African American populations, we need to study why specifically these areas are being hit disproportionately higher. New York, Detroit, and New Orleans aren't close to each other, at all. If this is purely geographical, then we need to look at what policies have caused this, if by God it's tied to genetic predisposition, that would be great to know as well. I have no illusions that the curiosity about these rates goes to a level where anything meaningful and actionable will be done.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/us/coronavirus-black-americans-race/index.html

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3465 on: April 07, 2020, 12:57:51 PM »
Where has this "zinc kicks the cold's ass up and down the block an entire day earlier" information been my entire life?

do you even cold-eeze bro?

also cleaning out the shed i discovered the masks i bought for painting my grill a couple years ago are N95's

i only have 6 do i

a. donate these
b. wear them in public and draw the judgment of others
c. wear them in public but cover with bandana to deflect judgement of others?

I'd go with c, personally.

that is the way i am leaning

my wife is a nurse and I came in triumphantly sharing my discovery

wife: "you wear those outside everyone is going to think you are an ass"

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3466 on: April 07, 2020, 01:00:16 PM »
I like to see people walking around with cloth masks now but it seems a bit unnecessary if you are walking down the sidewalk 50' from the next person.  Maybe they are headed to the grocery?

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3467 on: April 07, 2020, 01:00:51 PM »
Where has this "zinc kicks the cold's ass up and down the block an entire day earlier" information been my entire life?

do you even cold-eeze bro?

also cleaning out the shed i discovered the masks i bought for painting my grill a couple years ago are N95's

i only have 6 do i

a. donate these
b. wear them in public and draw the judgment of others
c. wear them in public but cover with bandana to deflect judgement of others?


do you know any nurses or doctors? I think that quantity would be good just to give someone directly that would get the most use out of them.

I just saw your wife is a nurse and I'd do whatever she suggests. Like if she knows someone in an ICU try to give them to those folks directly.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3468 on: April 07, 2020, 01:04:20 PM »
*give them to an actual nurse or doctor, not a hospital. Hospitals might take them and not let them use them but a nurse might want a small stash

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3469 on: April 07, 2020, 01:38:11 PM »
Where has this "zinc kicks the cold's ass up and down the block an entire day earlier" information been my entire life?

do you even cold-eeze bro?

also cleaning out the shed i discovered the masks i bought for painting my grill a couple years ago are N95's

i only have 6 do i

a. donate these
b. wear them in public and draw the judgment of others
c. wear them in public but cover with bandana to deflect judgement of others?

I'd go with c, personally.

that is the way i am leaning

my wife is a nurse and I came in triumphantly sharing my discovery

wife: "you wear those outside everyone is going to think you are an ass"
Definitely give to your wife to wear.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3470 on: April 07, 2020, 02:14:50 PM »
not that anyone really cares but...

decided to keep 2 for the fam and distributed rest to elderly neighbors

wife now works in the school system so is not in need

called local nurses we know and they said they are good with ppe

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3471 on: April 07, 2020, 02:17:35 PM »

called local nurses we know and they said they are good with ppe

You down with PPE, yeah you know ME!

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3472 on: April 07, 2020, 02:17:59 PM »
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3473 on: April 07, 2020, 03:19:01 PM »
gonna be a shitload of shitty face shields on the market - I think this is the only thing the tech braintrust not already producing medical devices can actually produce and distribute. (although Cook did say they were sourcing masks which is good)

https://twitter.com/FastCoDesign/status/1247162218568986624

side note: if you want to piss my wife off, improperly wear an N95 in public. we went to a grocery store in SF yesterday and like half of the N95's were worn by dudes with beards. (and really you shouldn't wear an N95if you aren't a health care professional working with sick people)

https://slate.com/technology/2020/04/comprehensive-guide-masks.html

https://twitter.com/SoleCollector/status/1247618691820408833

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #3474 on: April 07, 2020, 03:31:28 PM »