CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[cfbandyman]

Sell them at 8x retail price.

Also, I have always been told cold-eeze doesn't work.

It is on the box, but understand the idea that it doesn't "work"

[steve dave]

Zicam is irl incred. And when I inevitably get covid-19 I’m irl going to swab the crap out of my nostrils. Also I have hoarded like 3 boxes of the HIGHLY ILLEGAL AND HIGHLY EXPIRED zinc ones. I also hammer Zicam zinc lozenges when I’ve got sick kids.


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[catastrophe]

Where has this "zinc kicks the cold's ass up and down the block an entire day earlier" information been my entire life?

do you even cold-eeze bro?

also cleaning out the shed i discovered the masks i bought for painting my grill a couple years ago are N95's

i only have 6 do i

a. donate these
b. wear them in public and draw the judgment of others
c. wear them in public but cover with bandana to deflect judgement of others?

I discovered that the super duper old mask I wear sometimes doing yard work is an R95 so suck on that.

[sys]

If you can find an existing drug, sure. If you are developing a drug, you won't be able to beat the vaccine to the market, anyway. There just isn't any sort of market for a drug that chloroquine would be a replacement for.

they are hoping to have some therapeutic drugs approved and available in a couple of months.  the time frame i keep hearing for vaccines is 18 months.


beyond that, it is unknown if vaccines will offer temporary immunity or longer, and while it seems the virus is fairly stable, it is also still possible it mutates frequently enough that vaccines won't offer immunity for all strains.  that is to say, it is unlikely to instantly disappear when a vaccine is developed, and it may not disappear at all.

we drove smallpox to extinction with vaccines and have almost done the same with polio, but those are the only two, afaik.

[sys]

i strutted around a couple stores in an n95 yesterday.  no judgemental looks that in noticed.  fair number of fellow n95 havers also out showing off.

incidentally, we went to costco and a local mexican grocery store.  i'd say maybe 70% of shoppers at costco had some sort of face covering, maybe 20% at the mexican grocery.  employees at costco masks/no gloves (at least not the checker people), gloves/no masks at the mexican grocery.

big change from a week ago where it was maybe 10% masks at both costco and walmart.

[LickNeckey]

i really don't see the value of glove wearing for employees

[sys]

i really don't see the value of glove wearing for employees

protects them, not you.

[sys]

us death numbers are up big today(1877 and counting) but new cases aren't.  testing steady at ~140k.

[Kat Kid]

us death numbers are up big today(1877 and counting) but new cases aren't.  testing steady at ~140k.

I think this is the new number to watch and I would like someone to tell me how much testing we need to unwind stay at home.

[sys]

you look at france and have to wonder.  had a big jump in deaths today (1417), although they may be counting their dead differently than italy and spain.  but they've basically tested nobody and they still have over 100k confirmed cases.  maybe their reported test numbers are inaccurate or something.  or maybe they're only testing people that are mostly dead or something.  but their positive rate on tests is almost 50% (109k cases/224k tests). 

[catastrophe]

us death numbers are up big today(1877 and counting) but new cases aren't.  testing steady at ~140k.

I think this is the new number to watch and I would like someone to tell me how much testing we need to unwind stay at home.

I think antibody testing could be more important for that. Wide scale COVID testing really needs to go along with a robust contact tracing system with some enforcement to be effective I think.

[catastrophe]

you look at france and have to wonder.  had a big jump in deaths today (1417), although they may be counting their dead differently than italy and spain.  but they've basically tested nobody and they still have over 100k confirmed cases.  maybe their reported test numbers are inaccurate or something.  or maybe they're only testing people that are mostly dead or something.  but their positive rate on tests is almost 50% (109k cases/224k tests).

Looking at France, UK, and Germany I’m more inclined to believe this virus was created by the Germans instead of the Chinese.

[Justwin]

us death numbers are up big today(1877 and counting) but new cases aren't.  testing steady at ~140k.

Even with the somewhat expected big jump in deaths today, we are still below the lower bound for the 95% CI on total deaths for the IMHE model.  The lower bound on the 95% CI for total deaths on April 7 is 13,093.

The new cases curve is really starting to flatten now.  Things that are reducing the new cases curve are starting to take effect.

[wetwillie]

Show me the curve just2win

[Justwin]

Show me the curve just2win

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Scroll to the bottom for total deaths curve.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-coronavirus-cases-world-map/

At the top for cases curve.


From Financial Time site:

[Dugout DickStone]

China you are really, REALLY lying your nuts off

[420seriouscat69]

I feel like I have to put a disclaimer out there for the Stevesie’s of the world who might think I take Clay seriously, I don’t, but I’m definitely eating popcorn on this tweet.

https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1247677361270685701?s=21

[Justwin]

China you are really, REALLY lying your nuts off

On the realclearpolitics tracker, there is an * by China.

[Bqqkie Pimp]

China you are really, REALLY lying your nuts off

Mr. Trump is that you?!?!?   

[michigancat]

Wuhan lockdown over

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/world/asia/wuhan-coronavirus.html

[Kid In the Hall]

Mask/cloth watch for those in suburban KC - went to Price Chopper and the Post Office today and would estimate between 1/4 and 1/3 people wearing a mask/cloth. I threw a bandanna on my face and felt like an idiot. But, solidarity and what not.

[michigancat]

I'm so sad about John Prine

[catastrophe]

I feel like I have to put a disclaimer out there for the Stevesie’s of the world who might think I take Clay seriously, I don’t, but I’m definitely eating popcorn on this tweet.

https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1247677361270685701?s=21

Seems unlikely to me. But if true it would be an incredible testament to shelter in place policies.

[michigancat]

Death rates definitely go down during recessions.

[MakeItRain]

New Orleans is like 60-65% African American and that’s one of the main epicenters for it.

I'm not picking on you, fanman, but this is the second time this has come up and it's been dismissed by essentially "well duh, lots of black people live there." Even if this is just dumb luck of hitting metro areas where there are higher African American populations, we need to study why specifically these areas are being hit disproportionately higher. New York, Detroit, and New Orleans aren't close to each other, at all. If this is purely geographical, then we need to look at what policies have caused this, if by God it's tied to genetic predisposition, that would be great to know as well. I have no illusions that the curiosity about these rates goes to a level where anything meaningful and actionable will be done.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/us/coronavirus-black-americans-race/index.html

Thanks for this and to everyone else, contributing to the topic.