Author Topic: Potential oscar replacements? (mods plz merge. Can't find an old thread on this) (Read 46260 times)

wetwillie · « **Reply #250 on:** March 06, 2017, 11:52:51 PM »

He is a power bald too which counts for something

michigancat · « **Reply #251 on:** March 06, 2017, 11:57:28 PM »

He was on Billy Clyde's staff at aTm. They did a nice job.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #252 on:** March 07, 2017, 06:27:36 AM »

sys, you aren't bothered by any connections to Marshall?

sys · « **Reply #253 on:** March 07, 2017, 06:28:59 AM »

why on god's green earth would that bother me? they do a great job at wsu and play angry is the best thing in college basketball.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #254 on:** March 07, 2017, 06:29:47 AM »

Quote from: sys on March 07, 2017, 06:28:59 AM

why on god's green earth would that bother me? they do a great job at wsu and play angry is the best thing in college basketball.

I couldn't remember if you liked Marshall or not.

sys · « **Reply #255 on:** March 07, 2017, 06:31:02 AM »

i do.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #256 on:** March 07, 2017, 06:33:46 AM »

Quote from: sys on March 07, 2017, 06:31:02 AM

i do.

Okay.

Well, I agree that Forbes would be a great replacement for oscar. He's near the top of any list I would have.

pissclams · « **Reply #257 on:** March 07, 2017, 08:31:25 AM »

we can't do better than a 3rd year head coach from the southern conference

michigancat · « **Reply #258 on:** March 07, 2017, 08:33:56 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on March 07, 2017, 08:31:25 AM

we can't do better than a 3rd year head coach from the southern conference

I've read on this blog that we can't even do as good as him.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #259 on:** March 07, 2017, 08:34:19 AM »

People that are enamored with Forbes and think Jank is terrible are weird to me.

Glad we all agree Steve Henson is bad.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #260 on:** March 07, 2017, 08:47:28 AM »

Quote from: Kat Kid on March 07, 2017, 08:34:19 AM

People that are enamored with Forbes and think Jank is terrible are weird to me.

Glad we all agree Steve Henson is bad.

I don't see how anyone could agree that Henson is bad.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #261 on:** March 07, 2017, 08:50:50 AM »

Quote from: Kat Kid on March 07, 2017, 08:34:19 AM

People that are enamored with Forbes and think Jank is terrible are weird to me.

Glad we all agree Steve Henson is bad.

I like both of those.

FWIW, I'm considering Forbes (with Keatts) at the top of the "up and coming mid-major HC" category. I've adjusted my original up and comer list, I would put Forbes behind Miller. Part of why I moved Forbes up is his experience with a range of HCs and that he was known as a good recruiter (from what I've read) at those stops.

Quote from: ksu_FWN on February 17, 2017, 07:20:46 AM

The top would be Hoiberg.

The best Huggins type hire is Sampson.

The best K-State connection hire is obviously Brad. Some may say Jank or the real big reach of Steve Henson.

The best up and comer coach is tougher. Archie Miller is clearly the best, but a long shot. Will Wade (Shaka's replacement at VCU) has had success, but at only 2 years each at 2 schools). Kevin Keatts at UNC Willmington looks like he might be a solid young coach. Some might say Dan Muller at Illinois State, but this is really his first really good year. I'm sure there are others and someone will only become an up and comer when they win a NCAA game or two as underdogs.

CHONGS · « **Reply #262 on:** March 07, 2017, 09:07:41 AM »

Jank is gross, sorry KK.

pissclams · « **Reply #263 on:** March 07, 2017, 09:25:36 AM »

in the battle of the steves, i just don't see a big difference between the two career assistants. what is it that makes forbes so much different than henson?

kso_FAN · « **Reply #264 on:** March 07, 2017, 09:30:53 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on March 07, 2017, 09:25:36 AM

in the battle of the steves, i just don't see a big difference between the two career assistants. what is it that makes forbes so much different than henson?

1st and foremost, Forbes is known for being a really good recruiter and landing kids at aTm, Tennessee, and Wichita State.

2nd, I like that all 3 high major programs he worked with were having high amounts of success while he was there.

Henson has been a career assistant for Lon and as far as I know hasn't been known as a key recruiter.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/02/sports/ncaabasketball/mens-basketball-coach-steve-forbes-has-led-a-turnaround-at-northwest-florida-state.html

pissclams · « **Reply #265 on:** March 07, 2017, 09:35:37 AM »

forbes did do really well at Tennessee until that show cause arrived. but really, no one really knows the roll henson had in kruger's recruiting. i'd have to think that kruger's top assistant played some roll in recruiting though, don't you?

kso_FAN · « **Reply #266 on:** March 07, 2017, 09:39:50 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on March 07, 2017, 09:35:37 AM

forbes did do really well at Tennessee until that show cause arrived. but really, no one really knows the roll henson had in kruger's recruiting. i'd have to think that kruger's top assistant played some roll in recruiting though, don't you?

I would hope so. It usually seems like if an assistant coach is a really good recruiter they develop a reputation for that and are known for it, I've never read anything like that about Henson. Also, my perception of guys that stick with one coach for a while before getting a HC job are probably colored a little bit by oscar. ie. oscar and Gene correlates to Steve and Lon, though that's probably not fair on my part.

Catchup · « **Reply #267 on:** March 07, 2017, 10:17:58 AM »

I mentioned I was Forbes manager at Barton. His first year as head coach was my sophomore year. I arrived early before the school year and he had a scholarship open. He showed me tape of one guy (who probably would have been more helpful) but decided to bring in Gitonga Maina the African star from the movie "the Air Up There' with Kevin Bacon. I haven't heard from or about G in twenty years. This story made me sad:

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/07/07/charles-gitonga-maina-air-there-where-are-they-now-kevin-bacon

Anyway, to answer a few questions posed earlier, Forbes connection to Martin is through Underwood. They were very close friends when Forbes was at BCCC and Underwood at DCCC. The difference I see between Forbes and Henson is the success at different stops. I don't know that Henson would be bad, but I think Forbes would do really well though I am admittedly bias.

PIPE · « **Reply #268 on:** March 07, 2017, 10:32:14 AM »

This thread is gonna be really long by March 2018..........

kso_FAN · « **Reply #269 on:** March 07, 2017, 11:04:28 AM »

Quote from: PIPE on March 07, 2017, 10:32:14 AM

This thread is gonna be really long by March 2018..........

True.

pissclams · « **Reply #270 on:** March 07, 2017, 11:12:42 AM »

forbes bounces around a lot, it seems like every couple years he's on to something new. that's not concerning? how much credit can we give him for impacting a program when he's only been at a place a year.

chum1 · « **Reply #271 on:** March 07, 2017, 11:21:36 AM »

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