The Trump Presidency

[star seed 7]

https://www.reuters.com/markets/wealth/trump-signs-executive-order-create-sovereign-wealth-fund-2025-02-03/

What do we think of this? Obviously as it's a trump proposal there are no details, but I guess Biden was looking into a wealth fund too.

I don't like it, and it seems like a very easy way to expand cronyism and corruption. Trump's example is that the US government could buy tiktok, which is just an insane example to begin with. Texags people are speculating it's a back door to invest in bitcoin which sounds plausible.

[Pete]

I refuse to wholesale support whatever the democrats come up with anymore. I have done that for 32 years. I am done with it. They have violated my trust. Going forward, I will pick and choose the issues that I support based on my own judgment and not the propaganda of a given party.

I agree that the Democrats don't deserve wholesale support but I also don't think wholesale support (or excusing) of everything Elon Musk says or does is the best alternative.

That’s why I don’t wholesale support everything Elon Musk does. And I also choose to not get bent out of shape by really pussy crap while he’s still achieving gains on the things that really matter.

Yeah I hedged it with "excusing" what you don't wholesale support. What is the "really pussy crap" you're referring to?

A current topical example of this is Trans rights.  This is a hot topic at the moment in our country. I am 100% in full support of trans rights. However, if a trade has to be made, and it means sacrificing trans rights for meaningful progress on one of the other three big issues for me (national debt/economy, defense, AI) then so be it.

I accept that I do not live in a world where I get everything that I want. I also accept that I live in a world where compromises must be made, and that frequently horrible collateral damage occurs even when we make the right decision for the aggregate good . I do not like that and I do not approve of it, but I accept it.

Too many Democrats seem willing to compromise on the most important things in order to achieve an ideological victory that benefits very few relative to the detriments.

oof pete, this personally hurts, actually. I hope I get to read a retraction/clarification in the next three pages. You have to know that the assault on trans rights is just an entry to more, right? I mean they are literally carrying this out now. You think that the plan is to just remove civil rights for a group of people that comprise less than 1% of the population? The messaging from the white house is that trans rights, rights of minorities, rights of women, rights of those with disabilities are all the same. They aren't just targeting the trans community when they are looking to eliminate all dei programs. When fighting for civil rights you can't just pick winners and losers, that's never how it has worked or will ever work. Most, if not all, of the EOs that mention gender also mention race.

Federal law allows the Education Department to withhold funds from any school that discriminates based on race or sex. In a strikingly different ideological posture, Trump and his allies argue that lessons about systemic racism amount to discrimination, because they presume certain things about people based on race, such as that White Americans enjoy certain privileges based on their race. And they say that giving rights to transgender students, especially transgender girls and women, discriminates against cisgender girls and women by forcing them to share spaces and sports teams.

How did you feel about Obama when he said that he would not endorse gay marriage and instead only civil unions? 2008 he said he only supported civil unions and it took him until 2012 to change his mind. I remember thinking at the time that that sucked, but admitting to myself that it was probably a smart move to wait to fight that fight later.

[sonofdaxjones]

Mexico and Canada - bowing out before the fight even started.

#blueanongE: Absolutely enraged and moving the goal posts - as expected

What did we extract from Canada with our tariff threat?

First of all, it's on temp hold . . . we got them to finally move on their plains to help secure the border.  You see, #blueanon thinks that talking about something, planning to do something . . . is actually doing something. 

You guys keep talking about plans . . . but they don't get done.  As an aside, our Congress gave out a crap ton of money for one specific rural Internet buildout, and nothing happened.  They gave out another crap ton of money to put in electric car charges . . . but the end of Pedo Pete's term, they had installed like 8 or 9.  They gave out another crap ton of money for EV USPS trucks . . . few if any have been delivered. It sounded great, they ran around talking a lot about the plans . . . and feeling good about themselves I suppose.

Just like in the Middle East . . . the sock puppet President had a "plan" to end the Gaza fighting, and that's all it was, a plan.  Nothing happened until Don Trump's envoy showed up.

[wetwillie]

So all we wanted was cooperation with securing the northern border? Seems like it might have been easier to just ask nicely.

[sonofdaxjones]

I posted in anther thread about how NASA is going to buy back rocket motors that you and I already paid for, and they're going to buy back those refurbished motors at an exorbitant price, and the program is so far behind, it may never happen.

But . . . nobody wants to be audited or questioned, and the guy who just sends out all the cash resigned because he didn't want anybody looking at his stuff or asking any questions.

[sonofdaxjones]

So all we wanted was cooperation with securing the northern border? Seems like it might have been easier to just ask nicely.

They'd still be planning their plans . . .

[star seed 7]

Resigning is probably the least effective way of getting people to not look at your stuff, perhaps he resigned for another reason? Who knows 

[wetwillie]

Resigning is probably the least effective way of getting people to not look at your stuff, perhaps he resigned for another reason? Who knows 

David Lebryk Resume

Hiding stuff 2014-2016
Not Hiding Stuff  2016-2020
Hiding stuff again 2021-2024

[Dugout DickStone]

If trump meeps folding on tariffs we will pay income taxes forever

[Dugout DickStone]

The call this afternoon between Trudeau and the Mexico President must have been hilariously fun.

[Dugout DickStone]

Bro folded on a deal that was already made lmfao

[BIG APPLE CAT]

I am sad I missed the abortion/religion discussion over the weekend. I'm obviously left of the democratic party, but I don't care about abortion, at all. I would vote for a pro life candidate. Of course that pro life candidate would have to support exceptions with regard to the health of the mother and for rape victims. This candidate would also have to vehemently support all programs to make sure the mother and the child were supported from birth to adulthood. Socialized health care, or at a minimum medicaid until adulthood, expanded wic and food stamp programs, fully funded public schools, etc. Of course this candidate does not exist in either party, although I firmly believe most people support these policies.

Well you see MiR therein lies the difference between pro-lifers - who are virtually non-existent, and pro-birthers. Which is more like what DQ and JW are, in practice.

[Tobias]

David Lebryk Resume

Hiding stuff 2014-2016
Not Hiding Stuff  2016-2020
Hiding stuff again 2021-2024

[Stupid Fitz]

I am sad I missed the abortion/religion discussion over the weekend. I'm obviously left of the democratic party, but I don't care about abortion, at all. I would vote for a pro life candidate. Of course that pro life candidate would have to support exceptions with regard to the health of the mother and for rape victims. This candidate would also have to vehemently support all programs to make sure the mother and the child were supported from birth to adulthood. Socialized health care, or at a minimum medicaid until adulthood, expanded wic and food stamp programs, fully funded public schools, etc. Of course this candidate does not exist in either party, although I firmly believe most people support these policies.

Well you see MiR therein lies the difference between pro-lifers - who are virtually non-existent, and pro-birthers. Which is more like what DQ and JW are, in practice.

Well now that we have a different dumbass reality star in charge of infrastructure, the more babies you have the less potholes there will be in your state!!!


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[sonofdaxjones]

The only shame of the prolific check writer not being discovered sooner is the missed opportunity to see #blueanongE deflect and defend - deflect and defend, sooner

Our bureaucracy is really small ya see, so these things should be easy to find ya see . . . #blueanongE


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[sonofdaxjones]

Increase revenues - lower expenses

That’ll be $26million

https://twitter.com/doge/status/1886467781136158853?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g


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[Pete]

https://www.reuters.com/markets/wealth/trump-signs-executive-order-create-sovereign-wealth-fund-2025-02-03/

What do we think of this? Obviously as it's a trump proposal there are no details, but I guess Biden was looking into a wealth fund too.

I don't like it, and it seems like a very easy way to expand cronyism and corruption. Trump's example is that the US government could buy tiktok, which is just an insane example to begin with. Texags people are speculating it's a back door to invest in bitcoin which sounds plausible.

Yeah, I bet it turns into rough ridin' bitcoin bullshit. 

[sonofdaxjones]

The Big Mad Express is leaving the station.

Nobody disrupts their money laundering operation . . . Nobody!

https://twitter.com/alexbward/status/1886461422428631266?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g


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[I_have_purplewood]

When the ends justify the means, the amount of pain and suffering is immaterial.

Trump's genius is that he presents himself as the means to an end for so many groups of people. 

For Justinwin and dlew and Americans Christians he's the means to bring about the kingdom of heaven or the return of Christian authority over the world.

For Musk and Pete he's the means to bring about the singularity and the end of democracy which they feel hinders the progress of technology.


For nicname et al he's the kindling to burn it all down and start fresh to establish some libertarian utopia.

For dax he's the means to punish his political opponents and expose whatever insane conspiracies he's latched onto.

For purplewood it's the chance to dangle from dax's balls like a tick.

This is work I'm sure you're very proud of huh Bub?  All the time and effort you probably put into this to sound so eloquent and the only one who was in awe was SF.  That's funny af.

What also is funny af is you referencing me responding to a Dax post when I have >3000 posts?  I know I'm one of the few posters who lean to the right but I didn't know It would make you so if I wasn't a part of YOUR groupthink? What I did know is that you'd have to throw in some type of male genitalia in your comment.  Not shocking in the least.  Bravo Chongs. . Or maybe I should have used this emoji for you..

[sonofdaxjones]

When the ends justify the means, the amount of pain and suffering is immaterial.

Trump's genius is that he presents himself as the means to an end for so many groups of people. 

For Justinwin and dlew and Americans Christians he's the means to bring about the kingdom of heaven or the return of Christian authority over the world.

For Musk and Pete he's the means to bring about the singularity and the end of democracy which they feel hinders the progress of technology.


For nicname et al he's the kindling to burn it all down and start fresh to establish some libertarian utopia.

For dax he's the means to punish his political opponents and expose whatever insane conspiracies he's latched onto.

For purplewood it's the chance to dangle from dax's balls like a tick.

This is work I'm sure you're very proud of huh Bub?  All the time and effort you probably put into this to sound so eloquent and the only one who was in awe was SF.  That's funny af.

What also is funny af is you referencing me responding to a Dax post when I have >3000 posts?  I know I'm one of the few posters who lean to the right but I didn't know It would make you so if I wasn't a part of YOUR groupthink? What I did know is that you'd have to throw in some type of male genitalia in your comment.  Not shocking in the least.  Bravo Chongs. . Or maybe I should have used this emoji for you..

Remember-Chong’s belongs to a political movement that orchestrated the 4 biggest disinformation campaigns in US political history.

They’re now losing their mind that their money laundering operation is being exposed. At a place where 97% of the grifters vote Democrat.

Looking back, the money that USAid laundered through the Clinton Foundation is staggering (one example).


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[Pete]

https://x.com/doge/status/1886578681805504608?s=46&t=3dr3KCNJf6FX0PfdU2jK9g

Government consulting is super lucrative. I worked for a consulting firm at one point that had a government services line of business and they made a fortune. Their margins were way higher than any other line of business. Every time there was any new initiative first thing that happens is the government hires consultants to come in and figure out how the new programs going work or the processes and tech on the new thing that has to be tracked or create the new report….it’s just part of the cost of constantly asking the government to to provide additional services or additional regulations or additional monitoring or additional anything. I’m not sure how government would a function without the consultants, given the vast number of new requirements that are thrown at the government all the time, but it really did seem like there had to be a more efficient way of doing things.

Anyway, doesn’t really break my heart to see them canceling consulting contracts.

[sonofdaxjones]

It’s the grift to end all grifts. Insert an admiral saying they’re gonna work real hard to pass that audit some day

https://twitter.com/johnkonrad/status/1886592283836895553?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g


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[Pete]

The people and culture survey one made me laugh snort. If I had a nickel for each one of those types of things I’ve been subjected to, lol, and they were all completely rough ridin' worthless. I’m not really faulting the government for doing the same thing that corporations do, but they definitely do not need to be spending money on that.

168 million is chump change but I suppose it’s the thought that counts

[sonofdaxjones]

https://x.com/doge/status/1886578681805504608?s=46&t=3dr3KCNJf6FX0PfdU2jK9g

Government consulting is super lucrative. I worked for a consulting firm at one point that had a government services line of business and they made a fortune. Their margins were way higher than any other line of business. Every time there was any new initiative first thing that happens is the government hires consultants to come in and figure out how the new programs going work or the processes and tech on the new thing that has to be tracked or create the new report….it’s just part of the cost of constantly asking the government to to provide additional services or additional regulations or additional monitoring or additional anything. I’m not sure how government would a function without the consultants, given the vast number of new requirements that are thrown at the government all the time, but it really did seem like there had to be a more efficient way of doing things.

Anyway, doesn’t really break my heart to see them canceling consulting contracts.

TLDR


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[chum1]

I'll take dumb government contracts over more tax breaks for the rich every day of the week and twice on Sundays.