The Trump Presidency

[MakeItRain]

I refuse to wholesale support whatever the democrats come up with anymore. I have done that for 32 years. I am done with it. They have violated my trust. Going forward, I will pick and choose the issues that I support based on my own judgment and not the propaganda of a given party.

I agree that the Democrats don't deserve wholesale support but I also don't think wholesale support (or excusing) of everything Elon Musk says or does is the best alternative.

That’s why I don’t wholesale support everything Elon Musk does. And I also choose to not get bent out of shape by really pussy crap while he’s still achieving gains on the things that really matter.

Yeah I hedged it with "excusing" what you don't wholesale support. What is the "really pussy crap" you're referring to?

A current topical example of this is Trans rights.  This is a hot topic at the moment in our country. I am 100% in full support of trans rights. However, if a trade has to be made, and it means sacrificing trans rights for meaningful progress on one of the other three big issues for me (national debt/economy, defense, AI) then so be it.

I accept that I do not live in a world where I get everything that I want. I also accept that I live in a world where compromises must be made, and that frequently horrible collateral damage occurs even when we make the right decision for the aggregate good . I do not like that and I do not approve of it, but I accept it.

Too many Democrats seem willing to compromise on the most important things in order to achieve an ideological victory that benefits very few relative to the detriments.

oof pete, this personally hurts, actually. I hope I get to read a retraction/clarification in the next three pages. You have to know that the assault on trans rights is just an entry to more, right? I mean they are literally carrying this out now. You think that the plan is to just remove civil rights for a group of people that comprise less than 1% of the population? The messaging from the white house is that trans rights, rights of minorities, rights of women, rights of those with disabilities are all the same. They aren't just targeting the trans community when they are looking to eliminate all dei programs. When fighting for civil rights you can't just pick winners and losers, that's never how it has worked or will ever work. Most, if not all, of the EOs that mention gender also mention race.

Federal law allows the Education Department to withhold funds from any school that discriminates based on race or sex. In a strikingly different ideological posture, Trump and his allies argue that lessons about systemic racism amount to discrimination, because they presume certain things about people based on race, such as that White Americans enjoy certain privileges based on their race. And they say that giving rights to transgender students, especially transgender girls and women, discriminates against cisgender girls and women by forcing them to share spaces and sports teams.

[star seed 7]

Nicname, rephased your question is "why are higher prices on everyday items bad for Americans?"

Food, energy, and clean water are the only "needs" Americans have and we produce a surplus of each domestically. I would never want us to be in a position like China where we depend on imported food to not starve every month. I suppose lump in weapons and national defense too.

Why should I, as an American, care if my toilet paper (which is neither luxury nor exotic) is made in Oregon or Indonesia?

[mocat]

Caves to Mexico

looks like trump is also getting a taste of Trudeauz nutz

[sonofdaxjones]

#blueanongE once again declaring premature victory  . . . very #onbrand.

#blueanon . . . we've always got plans, executing them, a whole other story . . .


https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1886529228193022429

[MakeItRain]

When the ends justify the means, the amount of pain and suffering is immaterial.

Trump's genius is that he presents himself as the means to an end for so many groups of people. 

For Justinwin and dlew and Americans Christians he's the means to bring about the kingdom of heaven or the return of Christian authority over the world.

For Musk and Pete he's the means to bring about the singularity and the end of democracy which they feel hinders the progress of technology.


For nicname et al he's the kindling to burn it all down and start fresh to establish some libertarian utopia.

For dax he's the means to punish his political opponents and expose whatever insane conspiracies he's latched onto.

For purplewood it's the chance to dangle from dax's balls like a tick.

I don’t think Dlew is a Christian nationalist.

I think small federal gov is best, yes. States can do most things.

like institute slavery, issue murder warrants for doctors doing their jobs in other states, change election laws to soften federal election laws and disenfranchise voters, take money from municipalities and give it to state government cronies, soften civil rights laws, take money from programs designed to feed the children and give it to whatever lobby is in favor with the state governor. Yes, states can accomplish so much.

[Dugout DickStone]

Caves to Mexico

looks like trump is also getting a taste of Trudeauz nutz

what totally fake unmeasurable commitment will trump use as a reason to fold up?  trudeau should make it funny

[Dugout DickStone]

#blueanongE once again declaring premature victory  . . . very #onbrand.

#blueanon . . . we've always got plans, executing them, a whole other story . . .


https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1886529228193022429

\

Should have said 29 trillion or something equally fake as this.

[sonofdaxjones]

The United States Gov't is uttery incapable of knowing if Mexico and Canada are following through with their commitments . . . #slowdug and #blueanongE

If that's the case, why do we spend a trillion dollars a year on the military-intelligence complex?

[star seed 7]

#blueanongE once again declaring premature victory  . . . very #onbrand.

#blueanon . . . we've always got plans, executing them, a whole other story . . .


https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1886529228193022429

\

Should have said 29 trillion or something equally fake as this.

All of this was announced months ago

[Rage Against the McKee]

What  does the American consumer really need that can’t be produced and supplied domestically? I’m talking wants not needs.

I mean, I’m pretty sure I’m against tariffs on principle, but if they work as intended, why is that a problem for Americans?

Let foreign goods become what they have always been historically; luxuries. Want something foreign and exotic, you’ll probably pay more.

I don’t see how more stuff made in the US, by US workers and companies is bad for US citizens.

I don’t see a problem with saying “we don’t need your stuff. We’ve got our own.”

Bananas, lettuce, tomatoes, avocados, onions, garlic, limes, lumber, crude oil that our refineries are designed for, semiconductors, steel, to name a few. And we do produce a lot of that stuff, but not nearly enough to meet demand.

[sonofdaxjones]

#blueanongE once again declaring premature victory  . . . very #onbrand.

#blueanon . . . we've always got plans, executing them, a whole other story . . .


https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1886529228193022429

Should have said 29 trillion or something equally fake as this.

All of this was announced months ago

Per #slowdug this isn't going to happen . . . but stalkerbot says it was announced months ago and is absolutely going to happen.

Looks like we got a good old fashioned #blueanongE unilateral declaration cage match on our hands.

For government . . . announcing plans . . . is always doing them . . . easily manipulated simple brain #stalkerbot

[MakeItRain]

https://x.com/NickAdamsinUSA/status/1886484870446076348

Bootlickers are such weird rough ridin' people. I have no idea who this guy is, but it's so weird to me that they talk about "alpha male" crap all the time and then post crap like this. Fascinating really.

not gE'ing here but many believe that Nick Adams may be a parody account.

Well crap.  embarrassing. however, in my defense, people say and post disgusting bootlicking crap like this daily (even on this very bbs), so it isn't a complete surprise that I was hooked. My apologies regardless.

He's actually a real dude that goes on TV, has books, etc. Australians are mortified by the dude. If he's being a parody, it's the most elaborate parody in mass media history. I think he's just a performative grifter that found a lane to make some money. Honestly, it's really smart, there's no drawback for a white man to do this regardless of his beliefs.

[star seed 7]

Two statements enter, one unilaterally leaves

[star seed 7]

https://x.com/NickAdamsinUSA/status/1886484870446076348

Bootlickers are such weird rough ridin' people. I have no idea who this guy is, but it's so weird to me that they talk about "alpha male" crap all the time and then post crap like this. Fascinating really.

not gE'ing here but many believe that Nick Adams may be a parody account.

Well crap.  embarrassing. however, in my defense, people say and post disgusting bootlicking crap like this daily (even on this very bbs), so it isn't a complete surprise that I was hooked. My apologies regardless.

He's actually a real dude that goes on TV, has books, etc. Australians are mortified by the dude. If he's being a parody, it's the most elaborate parody in mass media history. I think he's just a performative grifter that found a lane to make some money. Honestly, it's really smart, there's no drawback for a white man to do this regardless of his beliefs.

Eh, I can think of a few reasons I would not. Number one being you would have to hang out with the chuds that aren't faking it. Financially you're probably correct.

[MakeItRain]

I am sad I missed the abortion/religion discussion over the weekend. I'm obviously left of the democratic party, but I don't care about abortion, at all. I would vote for a pro life candidate. Of course that pro life candidate would have to support exceptions with regard to the health of the mother and for rape victims. This candidate would also have to vehemently support all programs to make sure the mother and the child were supported from birth to adulthood. Socialized health care, or at a minimum medicaid until adulthood, expanded wic and food stamp programs, fully funded public schools, etc. Of course this candidate does not exist in either party, although I firmly believe most people support these policies.

[MakeItRain]

https://x.com/NickAdamsinUSA/status/1886484870446076348

Bootlickers are such weird rough ridin' people. I have no idea who this guy is, but it's so weird to me that they talk about "alpha male" crap all the time and then post crap like this. Fascinating really.

not gE'ing here but many believe that Nick Adams may be a parody account.

Well crap.  embarrassing. however, in my defense, people say and post disgusting bootlicking crap like this daily (even on this very bbs), so it isn't a complete surprise that I was hooked. My apologies regardless.

He's actually a real dude that goes on TV, has books, etc. Australians are mortified by the dude. If he's being a parody, it's the most elaborate parody in mass media history. I think he's just a performative grifter that found a lane to make some money. Honestly, it's really smart, there's no drawback for a white man to do this regardless of his beliefs.

Eh, I can think of a few reasons I would not. Number one being you would have to hang out with the chuds that aren't faking it.

true, but if being rich is your ultimate goal here, you can grin and bear it.

[star seed 7]

I wasn't fast enough with the edit

[Dugout DickStone]

#blueanongE once again declaring premature victory  . . . very #onbrand.

#blueanon . . . we've always got plans, executing them, a whole other story . . .


https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1886529228193022429

Should have said 29 trillion or something equally fake as this.

All of this was announced months ago

Per #slowdug this isn't going to happen . . . but stalkerbot says it was announced months ago and is absolutely going to happen.

Looks like we got a good old fashioned #blueanongE unilateral declaration cage match on our hands.

For government . . . announcing plans . . . is always doing them . . . easily manipulated simple brain #stalkerbot

so trump was able to extract less than nothing fromn this whole thing.  ouch

[chum1]

Remember how in Trump 1.0 markets stopped reacting to the crazy crap he said because he never actually made it happen?

[DQ12]

I am sad I missed the abortion/religion discussion over the weekend. I'm obviously left of the democratic party, but I don't care about abortion, at all. I would vote for a pro life candidate. Of course that pro life candidate would have to support exceptions with regard to the health of the mother and for rape victims. This candidate would also have to vehemently support all programs to make sure the mother and the child were supported from birth to adulthood. Socialized health care, or at a minimum medicaid until adulthood, expanded wic and food stamp programs, fully funded public schools, etc. Of course this candidate does not exist in either party, although I firmly believe most people support these policies.

I’d vote for that candidate fwiw (assuming “health of the mother” exception isn’t so broad it effectively always applies). 

Closest thing is probably the American Solidarity party.

[wetwillie]

Remember how in Trump 1.0 markets stopped reacting to the crazy crap he said because he never actually made it happen?

Definitely the kind of predictable environment you want from President Business.

[Stupid Fitz]

What in the absolute crap?

https://www.newsweek.com/us-government-department-tie-funding-marriage-birth-rates-2025015


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[star seed 7]

Let's all congratulate Pete, these tariffs did not last long!

[sonofdaxjones]

Mexico and Canada - bowing out before the fight even started.

#blueanongE: Absolutely enraged and moving the goal posts - as expected

[wetwillie]

Mexico and Canada - bowing out before the fight even started.

#blueanongE: Absolutely enraged and moving the goal posts - as expected

What did we extract from Canada with our tariff threat?