The Trump Presidency

[Pete]

I wouldn’t.  I’m pro choice and I’d be pretty active in finding those parents who were considering this because the kid is expensive and inconvenient and finding that kid a home either with me or in a network of like minded people.

That's because you are focused on the flesh and things of this world. I am not.

Oh, I bet you are focused as eff on a ton of things that are of this world, my friend

[catastrophe]

I definitely do not believe that DLew thinks abortion is equivalent to murder in the same way that murdering a three-year-old is murder. I do not think that De Louise would pass that lie detector test.

You believe that because basically 100% of people agree murdering 3 year olds is bad. Your hypothetical assumes a world where that’s not true.

[Justwin]

I wouldn’t.  I’m pro choice and I’d be pretty active in finding those parents who were considering this because the kid is expensive and inconvenient and finding that kid a home either with me or in a network of like minded people.

That's because you are focused on the flesh and things of this world. I am not.

Oh, I bet you are focused as eff on a ton of things that are of this world, my friend

I do focus on things of this world, but only secondarily to things that are heavenly and spiritual in nature. I have to live in the world, but I strive to not be of the world.

[Pete]

I definitely do not believe that DLew thinks abortion is equivalent to murder in the same way that murdering a three-year-old is murder. I do not think that De Louise would pass that lie detector test.

You believe that because basically 100% of people agree murdering 3 year olds is bad. Your hypothetical assumes a world where that’s not true.

We need to be fair to dlew, he said he considers those things different.

Now, for those that still insist on murdering a three-year-old, as being the same thing as an abortion, I contend that none of them actually believe that, except for the ones that tried to blow themselves up in an abortion clinic bombing. They’d be rough ridin' monsters if they believe that we’re still just getting up and going to work every day and smiling at their neighbor who is OK with killing three-year-olds and at their bosses who are OK with killing three-year-olds and their customers who are OK with killing three-year-olds. That would be monstrous.

[Pete]

I wouldn’t.  I’m pro choice and I’d be pretty active in finding those parents who were considering this because the kid is expensive and inconvenient and finding that kid a home either with me or in a network of like minded people.

That's because you are focused on the flesh and things of this world. I am not.

Oh, I bet you are focused as eff on a ton of things that are of this world, my friend

I do focus on things of this world, but only secondarily to things that are heavenly and spiritual in nature. I have to live in the world, but I strive to not be of the world.

That presents a pickle when the rulebook that you’re using is of this world and written by men of this world and revised many times by men of this world, as it changed hands from one ruler to the next from one opinion to the next.

Free country though

[Dugout DickStone]

In what scenario is the majority okay with air travel being as dangerous as taking a sub to visit the Titanic?

[catastrophe]

I definitely do not believe that DLew thinks abortion is equivalent to murder in the same way that murdering a three-year-old is murder. I do not think that De Louise would pass that lie detector test.

You believe that because basically 100% of people agree murdering 3 year olds is bad. Your hypothetical assumes a world where that’s not true.

We need to be fair to dlew, he said he considers those things different.

Now, for those that still insist on murdering a three-year-old, as being the same thing as an abortion, I contend that none of them actually believe that, except for the ones that tried to blow themselves up in an abortion clinic bombing. They’d be rough ridin' monsters if they believe that we’re still just getting up and going to work every day and smiling at their neighbor who is OK with killing three-year-olds and at their bosses who are OK with killing three-year-olds and their customers who are OK with killing three-year-olds. That would be monstrous.

You’re changing the goal posts to make up for your crappy argument.

The only way millions of three year olds are actively getting murdered is in a world where the vast majority of people are ok with the practice. You have absolutely zero reason to think that the opposition in that case would look any different than the pro life movement does today.

[Justwin]

I definitely do not believe that DLew thinks abortion is equivalent to murder in the same way that murdering a three-year-old is murder. I do not think that De Louise would pass that lie detector test.

You believe that because basically 100% of people agree murdering 3 year olds is bad. Your hypothetical assumes a world where that’s not true.

We need to be fair to dlew, he said he considers those things different.

Now, for those that still insist on murdering a three-year-old, as being the same thing as an abortion, I contend that none of them actually believe that, except for the ones that tried to blow themselves up in an abortion clinic bombing. They’d be rough ridin' monsters if they believe that we’re still just getting up and going to work every day and smiling at their neighbor who is OK with killing three-year-olds and at their bosses who are OK with killing three-year-olds and their customers who are OK with killing three-year-olds. That would be monstrous.

Lots of different things can be murder without them all being exactly the same. Maybe I wouldn't feel exactly the same if people were killing their three-year-old child, but I think I would view pretty similarly to abortion. If society was telling people it's ok to kill your children, I think I would view it very similarly, if not the same, as abortion.

How do you feel about Eskimos that kill their babies? What were you doing about Chinese children (especially girls) that were killed in response to China's one child policy?

[Dugout DickStone]

By nominating RFK trump has proven he is pro choice.   

[CNS]

In what scenario is the majority okay with air travel being as dangerous as taking a sub to visit the Titanic?

They better figure it out before mid March. 

[star seed 7]

I don't think I could ever vote for anyone working towards outlawing abortion. I view it as a fundamental human right. So I guess I'm a single issue voter too?

[star seed 7]

I also wouldn't do any crazy crap if I lived in a less enlightened time when female bodily autonomy wasn't respected.

[Dugout DickStone]

I’m flying Tuesday guys.  Maybe president plane crash can fix this up?  Like stat

[star seed 7]

Marital rape was legal until like the mid 90's, I wonder what the biblical perspective was on that?

[mocat]

I’m flying Tuesday guys.  Maybe president plane crash can fix this up?  Like stat

It's a problem that can only be fixed by spending more federal money so I doubt it will be addressed in the next 4 years

[Justwin]

Marital rape was legal until like the mid 90's, I wonder what the biblical perspective was on that?

The truly biblical perspective is that marital rape is sinful, not acceptable nor justifiable.

[star seed 7]

Marital rape was legal until like the mid 90's, I wonder what the biblical perspective was on that?

The truly biblical perspective is that marital rape is sinful, not acceptable nor justifiable.

You'd hope, but that appears to be a fairly modern view.

I didn't really want to debate marital rape though, just using it as an example of how this country used to view women's rights.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If we lived in a world where it was legal to euthanize 3 year olds, would anyone care even a little bit about abortions? If anything, wouldn't people be encouraging abortion as an alternative? Kill them before they have any sort of brain function and even know they exist?

[wetwillie]

None of this was a problem until we started letting women vote

[CHONGS]

The words of Jesus Christ aren't driving much of modern American Christianity and it's singular focus on abortion, suppressing gay people, and acquiring wealth and power at all costs

[Justwin]

The words of Jesus Christ aren't driving much of modern American Christianity and it's singular focus on abortion and gay people.

How can a focus be singular if it's focused on two things?

[CHONGS]

The words of Jesus Christ aren't driving much of modern American Christianity and it's singular focus on abortion and gay people.

How can a focus be singular if it's focused on two things?

Singular on that group of issues. 

[Stevesie60]

I wouldn’t.  I’m pro choice and I’d be pretty active in finding those parents who were considering this because the kid is expensive and inconvenient and finding that kid a home either with me or in a network of like minded people.

That's because you are focused on the flesh and things of this world. I am not.

Oh, I bet you are focused as eff on a ton of things that are of this world, my friend

I do focus on things of this world, but only secondarily to things that are heavenly and spiritual in nature. I have to live in the world, but I strive to not be of the world.

Justwin, I'm not trying to attack you per se, but everytime I hear this I have to wonder if you're focused enough on the afterlife that you've given up everything, as Jesus asks, to follow Him? Unless you access this site on a computer at the library, it would appear you paid for a phone or computer at some point. Maybe work pays for it, I don't know.

Would you sell your phone or computer and donate the money to the poor? Or just donate the computer or phone to the poor? Surely you don't take vacations, right? That's a lot of money that could be given to the poor. Considering that the average global income is barely over $12,000, what household income would you consider makes one "rich"? Surely you remember what Jesus said about the likelihood of rich people entering Heaven.

[CNS]

I wouldn’t.  I’m pro choice and I’d be pretty active in finding those parents who were considering this because the kid is expensive and inconvenient and finding that kid a home either with me or in a network of like minded people.

That's because you are focused on the flesh and things of this world. I am not.

Oh, I bet you are focused as eff on a ton of things that are of this world, my friend

I do focus on things of this world, but only secondarily to things that are heavenly and spiritual in nature. I have to live in the world, but I strive to not be of the world.

Things like this make me think of matching shoes and timing comets.

You have a magic wand: would you legislate that all Americans have to live in accordance to Christianity?

[Justwin]

I wouldn’t.  I’m pro choice and I’d be pretty active in finding those parents who were considering this because the kid is expensive and inconvenient and finding that kid a home either with me or in a network of like minded people.

That's because you are focused on the flesh and things of this world. I am not.

Oh, I bet you are focused as eff on a ton of things that are of this world, my friend

I do focus on things of this world, but only secondarily to things that are heavenly and spiritual in nature. I have to live in the world, but I strive to not be of the world.

Justwin, I'm not trying to attack you per se, but everytime I hear this I have to wonder if you're focused enough on the afterlife that you've given up everything, as Jesus asks, to follow Him? Unless you access this site on a computer at the library, it would appear you paid for a phone or computer at some point. Maybe work pays for it, I don't know.

Would you sell your phone or computer and donate the money to the poor? Or just donate the computer or phone to the poor? Surely you don't take vacations, right? That's a lot of money that could be given to the poor. Considering that the average global income is barely over $12,000, what household income would you consider makes one "rich"? Surely you remember what Jesus said about the likelihood of rich people entering Heaven.

Jesus doesn't actually ask everyone to give up everything to follow him. You might think that if you are looking at Mark 10:21-22 and Matthew 19:21-22 in isolation. However, if you look at the Bible in totality, that is not what is being asked of Christians.