The Trump Presidency

[steve dave]

Hopefully it’s piss


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[CNS]

I bet this is phase two of the chemtrail plans.

[Dugout DickStone]

Hopefully it’s piss


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looking at those grossers i hope it's disinfectant

[sonofdaxjones]

As I, a smart and learned person come to the conclusion of Boris Johnson's "The Churchill Factor: How one man made history".  A good read, but not a whole lot in the way of new information. Interesting analysis by Johnson regarding Churchill's political life, a bit of a cheerleader . . .

In Chapter 20: Johnson recounts the story of the meeting at Potsdam between Churchill-Stalin-Roosevelt.  At that meeting Stalin proposed (allegedly jokingly - but who knows with that lunatic) that 50,000 Nazi officers had to be shot. Churchill was appalled to say the least. Stalin insisted again, Churchill got even more agitated, stating that he just assume be taken out and be shot right there, rather than to sign Great Britain up to such a plan. Roosevelt chimed in that only 49,000 should be shot, and his son stood up and declared that he was sure they could get such a proposal through Congress. They were joking - joking about slaughtering 49,000 people.

Johnson then describes how Churchill for a second entertained the notion of turning British and American arms on to Russia, pushing them back to their borders (Patton wanted to) . . . then of course realized that the British and American people at that time only thought of Russia as an ally - having no real idea of what a butcher Joe Stalin was and had been. Still the concept of World War III - just days after the end of WWII was being bantered about and discussed in the circles of (allegedly) of the greatest political brains and military figures in world history.

Absolute lunacy - the thoughts of mad men

I then  put this on the backdrop of #blueanon losing their feeble little minds when the anecdotal stories come out about Trump bantering around certain ideas.

Once upon a time the United States contemplated nuking North Korea and China, and then a few years later discussed nuking North Vietnam (as they dumped Agent Orange all over the place, and seeded clouds to make the Ho Chi Minh trail muddy) at the highest levels of our government, literally bantered those ideas around inside the Oval Office.

[Stupid Fitz]

Mods, please change the name to Leon's Presidency or Trump VP.

TIA

[Kelsey_Grammar]

As I, a smart and learned person come to the conclusion of Boris Johnson's "The Churchill Factor: How one man made history". 

What in the actual eff is this?

[sonofdaxjones]

Socks don't count . . .

[Kat Kid]

As I, a smart and learned person come to the conclusion of Boris Johnson's "The Churchill Factor: How one man made history".  A good read, but not a whole lot in the way of new information. Interesting analysis by Johnson regarding Churchill's political life, a bit of a cheerleader . . .

In Chapter 20: Johnson recounts the story of the meeting at Potsdam between Churchill-Stalin-Roosevelt.  At that meeting Stalin proposed (allegedly jokingly - but who knows with that lunatic) that 50,000 Nazi officers had to be shot. Churchill was appalled to say the least. Stalin insisted again, Churchill got even more agitated, stating that he just assume be taken out and be shot right there, rather than to sign Great Britain up to such a plan. Roosevelt chimed in that only 49,000 should be shot, and his son stood up and declared that he was sure they could get such a proposal through Congress. They were joking - joking about slaughtering 49,000 people.

Johnson then describes how Churchill for a second entertained the notion of turning British and American arms on to Russia, pushing them back to their borders (Patton wanted to) . . . then of course realized that the British and American people at that time only thought of Russia as an ally - having no real idea of what a butcher Joe Stalin was and had been. Still the concept of World War III - just days after the end of WWII was being bantered about and discussed in the circles of (allegedly) of the greatest political brains and military figures in world history.

Absolute lunacy - the thoughts of mad men

I then  put this on the backdrop of #blueanon losing their feeble little minds when the anecdotal stories come out about Trump bantering around certain ideas.

Once upon a time the United States contemplated nuking North Korea and China, and then a few years later discussed nuking North Vietnam (as they dumped Agent Orange all over the place, and seeded clouds to make the Ho Chi Minh trail muddy) at the highest levels of our government, literally bantered those ideas around inside the Oval Office.

Ah, yes, Winston Churchill he was always noted for having strong reservations about the use of force. It probably made him uncomfortable to kill that many white people.

"I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes."
-Churchill

As for this part-- yes that was definitely discussed and Johnson was pissed when he found out Westmoreland had been back dooring him on their deployment.
https://warontherocks.com/2018/10/how-close-did-the-united-states-actually-get-to-using-nuclear-weapons-in-vietnam-in-1968/

[star seed 7]

Does boris Johnson's book come free with a years subscription to the epoch times?

[Kat Kid]

Speaking on Johnsons….

If Trump and Musk think that they can keep up this level of bullying their own slim majority in Congress through the mid terms with the threat of getting primaried. They may find that either stops working or they primary a bunch of people and have to rely on Musk and Trump choosing candidates then owning the result. It is all fun and games when Trump can look at polls and then swoop in to endorse the best horse but starting from scratch against incumbents and then risking the general going against you will be a factor in a lot more races if they try to hold
The line.

I would actually love for Musk to be speaker and get rid of Mike Johnson. That would be great because relying on Musks interpersonal skills and knowledge of consensus building in Washington to enact the Trump agenda is the best I could hope for.

[Stupid Fitz]

Speaking on Johnsons….

If Trump and Musk think that they can keep up this level of bullying their own slim majority in Congress through the mid terms with the threat of getting primaried. They may find that either stops working or they primary a bunch of people and have to rely on Musk and Trump choosing candidates then owning the result. It is all fun and games when Trump can look at polls and then swoop in to endorse the best horse but starting from scratch against incumbents and then risking the general going against you will be a factor in a lot more races if they try to hold
The line.

I would actually love for Musk to be speaker and get rid of Mike Johnson. That would be great because relying on Musks interpersonal skills and knowledge of consensus building in Washington to enact the Trump agenda is the best I could hope for.

Elon doesn't want to be speaker. He wants to tweet and get reactions. He hasn't read the house bill, he just wanted to see if they would fold by tweeting out against it. As expected, the current house that has been the most unproductive house in however long, bent to the knee of an unelected billionaire.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Speaking on Johnsons….

If Trump and Musk think that they can keep up this level of bullying their own slim majority in Congress through the mid terms with the threat of getting primaried. They may find that either stops working or they primary a bunch of people and have to rely on Musk and Trump choosing candidates then owning the result. It is all fun and games when Trump can look at polls and then swoop in to endorse the best horse but starting from scratch against incumbents and then risking the general going against you will be a factor in a lot more races if they try to hold
The line.

I would actually love for Musk to be speaker and get rid of Mike Johnson. That would be great because relying on Musks interpersonal skills and knowledge of consensus building in Washington to enact the Trump agenda is the best I could hope for.

Elon doesn't want to be speaker. He wants to tweet and get reactions. He hasn't read the house bill, he just wanted to see if they would fold by tweeting out against it. As expected, the current house that has been the most unproductive house in however long, bent to the knee of an unelected billionaire.

Oh, Elon would absolutely accept the speaker position if it's offered.

[Stupid Fitz]

Speaking on Johnsons….

If Trump and Musk think that they can keep up this level of bullying their own slim majority in Congress through the mid terms with the threat of getting primaried. They may find that either stops working or they primary a bunch of people and have to rely on Musk and Trump choosing candidates then owning the result. It is all fun and games when Trump can look at polls and then swoop in to endorse the best horse but starting from scratch against incumbents and then risking the general going against you will be a factor in a lot more races if they try to hold
The line.

I would actually love for Musk to be speaker and get rid of Mike Johnson. That would be great because relying on Musks interpersonal skills and knowledge of consensus building in Washington to enact the Trump agenda is the best I could hope for.

Elon doesn't want to be speaker. He wants to tweet and get reactions. He hasn't read the house bill, he just wanted to see if they would fold by tweeting out against it. As expected, the current house that has been the most unproductive house in however long, bent to the knee of an unelected billionaire.

Oh, Elon would absolutely accept the speaker position if it's offered.

Disagree, but it's ridiculous that we are having this conversation regardless. 

[CNS]

I would imagine that Elon doesn't want the job, he just wants control of whoever that person is. 

[Dugout DickStone]

At least he is blocking farmer handouts and congressional pay raises.  Fair is fair until budget is balanced

[CNS]

Elon has been saying he wants cuts.  The best way to cut is to shut(down).

[sonofdaxjones]

As I, a smart and learned person come to the conclusion of Boris Johnson's "The Churchill Factor: How one man made history".  A good read, but not a whole lot in the way of new information. Interesting analysis by Johnson regarding Churchill's political life, a bit of a cheerleader . . .

In Chapter 20: Johnson recounts the story of the meeting at Potsdam between Churchill-Stalin-Roosevelt.  At that meeting Stalin proposed (allegedly jokingly - but who knows with that lunatic) that 50,000 Nazi officers had to be shot. Churchill was appalled to say the least. Stalin insisted again, Churchill got even more agitated, stating that he just assume be taken out and be shot right there, rather than to sign Great Britain up to such a plan. Roosevelt chimed in that only 49,000 should be shot, and his son stood up and declared that he was sure they could get such a proposal through Congress. They were joking - joking about slaughtering 49,000 people.

Johnson then describes how Churchill for a second entertained the notion of turning British and American arms on to Russia, pushing them back to their borders (Patton wanted to) . . . then of course realized that the British and American people at that time only thought of Russia as an ally - having no real idea of what a butcher Joe Stalin was and had been. Still the concept of World War III - just days after the end of WWII was being bantered about and discussed in the circles of (allegedly) of the greatest political brains and military figures in world history.

Absolute lunacy - the thoughts of mad men

I then  put this on the backdrop of #blueanon losing their feeble little minds when the anecdotal stories come out about Trump bantering around certain ideas.

Once upon a time the United States contemplated nuking North Korea and China, and then a few years later discussed nuking North Vietnam (as they dumped Agent Orange all over the place, and seeded clouds to make the Ho Chi Minh trail muddy) at the highest levels of our government, literally bantered those ideas around inside the Oval Office.

Ah, yes, Winston Churchill he was always noted for having strong reservations about the use of force. It probably made him uncomfortable to kill that many white people.

"I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes."
-Churchill

As for this part-- yes that was definitely discussed and Johnson was pissed when he found out Westmoreland had been back dooring him on their deployment.
https://warontherocks.com/2018/10/how-close-did-the-united-states-actually-get-to-using-nuclear-weapons-in-vietnam-in-1968/

It’s rough ridin' amazing to watch you post these days. It truly is. 

Good gawd . . .


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[sonofdaxjones]

Does boris Johnson's book come free with a years subscription to the epoch times?

Good lawd, it’s just so bad anymore.


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[Dugout DickStone]

Ending farmer socialism

[Dugout DickStone]

Cutting social security

[sonofdaxjones]

It's not going to happen.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I would actually respect him if he ended social security. No way he has the balls to do that, though. He's probably just going to raise the retirement age. Make a bad program even worse than it already is.

[LickNeckey]

really?

why?

[Rage Against the McKee]

really?

why?

Because the people who would be most affected by it voted for it. I think people should get what they vote for.

[LickNeckey]

i see that


pretty horrific societal consequences tho