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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #675 on: February 23, 2016, 04:02:49 PM »
Why is Marco Rubio so broke? That kind of bothers me.  Maybe he isn't as fiscally responsible as I was lead to believe.

Because ad buying is extremely expensive.

I think WW meant personally.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #676 on: February 23, 2016, 04:12:40 PM »
Why is Marco Rubio so broke? That kind of bothers me.  Maybe he isn't as fiscally responsible as I was lead to believe.

Because ad buying is extremely expensive.

I think WW meant personally.

In that case, probably because he has four kids, and right after school he went straight into politics. He didn't spend years earning a lawyer's salary or anything. He also doesn't come from a wealthy family, so he didn't inherit anything.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #677 on: February 23, 2016, 04:15:53 PM »
Didn't Rubio say he was still paying off student loans? :sdeek:

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #678 on: February 23, 2016, 04:23:22 PM »
Didn't Rubio say he was still paying off student loans? :sdeek:

Nah, he just paid them off recently with the money he made from a book he wrote. So he knows how crushing they can be, but he is not currently paying student loans.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #679 on: February 23, 2016, 04:26:40 PM »
Looks like Romney got 35% of unpledged delegates in 2012.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/R-PU.phtml

That site lists a crap ton of unpledged delegates as undecided so I don't think it is exactly up to date.

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« Reply #680 on: February 23, 2016, 04:40:19 PM »
Looks like Romney got 35% of unpledged delegates in 2012.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/R-PU.phtml

That site lists a crap ton of unpledged delegates as undecided so I don't think it is exactly up to date.

It's up to date. Not all votes get cast in the end.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #681 on: February 23, 2016, 07:04:27 PM »
Why is Marco Rubio so broke? That kind of bothers me.  Maybe he isn't as fiscally responsible as I was lead to believe.

Because ad buying is extremely expensive.

I think WW meant personally.

In that case, probably because he has four kids, and right after school he went straight into politics. He didn't spend years earning a lawyer's salary or anything. He also doesn't come from a wealthy family, so he didn't inherit anything.


So here is the thing, he has made over 2 million dollars in the last 5 years but cashed out a 68K retirement account in Sept 2014 so he could pay for a new fridge and air conditioner. 

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In new disclosure forms filed by Rubio last week, he revealed that he sold $68,241 worth of retirement funds last September. Experts say such a move tends to reflect an extraordinary need for immediate cash, since it comes with a sizable tax penalty.

“It means that he is probably on some level living above his means, because he is borrowing against his future,” said Boston University economist Laurence Kotlikoff.

In an interview on “Fox News Sunday,” Rubio said that he needed “access to cash” for personal expenses and in anticipation of running for president. He said he has at least two other active retirement accounts.

“My refrigerator broke down,” Rubio said. “That was $3,000. I had to replace the air-conditioning unit in our home. My kids all go to school, and they are getting closer to college, and school’s getting more expensive.”


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/21/wapo-is-marco-rubio-broke/
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #682 on: February 23, 2016, 09:29:15 PM »
Is Marco Rubio running for prez to get out of money trouble?

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« Reply #683 on: February 24, 2016, 06:40:19 AM »

Is Marco Rubio running for prez to get out of money trouble?

Nah, Breitbart is pro Cruz and have been going after Rubio hard.


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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #684 on: February 24, 2016, 06:57:52 AM »
nothing to say about the liquidation of a 68k retirement account at a 40% penalty to buy a fridge and air conditioning unit?  The way he handles his own personal finances is pretty troublesome to me.  Romneys people in 2012 vetted him for VP running mate in 2012 and passed in large part to how much of a mess it was.
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #685 on: February 24, 2016, 07:19:02 AM »
The first state that Rubio wins is.....

South Carolina or Nevada.

WELP, only 20 some points off this time. Wanna try again?

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #686 on: February 24, 2016, 07:26:13 AM »

nothing to say about the liquidation of a 68k retirement account at a 40% penalty to buy a fridge and air conditioning unit?  The way he handles his own personal finances is pretty troublesome to me.  Romneys people in 2012 vetted him for VP running mate in 2012 and passed in large part to how much of a mess it was.

Yeah, I did not know about all this. Maybe don't want the next POTUS trying to sell me amway to cover some household overflow expenses.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #687 on: February 24, 2016, 08:40:54 AM »
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nothing to say about the liquidation of a 68k retirement account at a 40% penalty to buy a fridge and air conditioning unit?  The way he handles his own personal finances is pretty troublesome to me.  Romneys people in 2012 vetted him for VP running mate in 2012 and passed in large part to how much of a mess it was.

Former senators and reps have huge retirement and medical benefits for life. No longer needed his own retirement account.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #688 on: February 24, 2016, 08:44:00 AM »
:Chirp:
nothing to say about the liquidation of a 68k retirement account at a 40% penalty to buy a fridge and air conditioning unit?  The way he handles his own personal finances is pretty troublesome to me.  Romneys people in 2012 vetted him for VP running mate in 2012 and passed in large part to how much of a mess it was.

Former senators and reps have huge retirement and medical benefits for life. No longer needed his own retirement account.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #689 on: February 24, 2016, 10:37:17 AM »
The first state that Rubio wins is.....

South Carolina or Nevada.

WELP, only 20 some points off this time. Wanna try again?

It all depends on how you look at it. But I am not sure what his path is anymore. Optimistically, if he could come out of super Tuesday with 200+ delegates then it isn't over. But without any additional winnowing between now and then I am not sure what to expect. Not to mention that a lot of states are reporting record numbers of absentee early voting. . .meaning nothing he does now reclaims any of those votes.

It's a real bummer. I don't want a Trump nomination, I don't want Trump representing our party, and I don't want Trump in control of the United States. At this point, Trump leads with 81 delegates. Cruz and Rubio each have 17. It isn't over yet, but I am not sure there is a enough time between now and next Tuesday to slow Trumps angry ignorant mob.

The only glimmer of hope I have is that I have an a+ source who works for the Koch chamber of commerce Freedom Partners. Their president who was making six figures and was successful quit to join the Rubio campaign. I'd find it hard to believe that he would make that jump if he didn't see a path to victory.

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« Reply #690 on: February 24, 2016, 10:48:47 AM »
The first state that Rubio wins is.....

South Carolina or Nevada.

WELP, only 20 some points off this time. Wanna try again?

It all depends on how you look at it. But I am not sure what his path is anymore. Optimistically, if he could come out of super Tuesday with 200+ delegates then it isn't over. But without any additional winnowing between now and then I am not sure what to expect. Not to mention that a lot of states are reporting record numbers of absentee early voting. . .meaning nothing he does now reclaims any of those votes.

It's a real bummer. I don't want a Trump nomination, I don't want Trump representing our party, and I don't want Trump in control of the United States. At this point, Trump leads with 81 delegates. Cruz and Rubio each have 17. It isn't over yet, but I am not sure there is a enough time between now and next Tuesday to slow Trumps angry ignorant mob.

The only glimmer of hope I have is that I have an a+ source who works for the Koch chamber of commerce Freedom Partners. Their president who was making six figures and was successful quit to join the Rubio campaign. I'd find it hard to believe that he would make that jump if he didn't see a path to victory.

I appreciate the candor, for the first time Rubio looks like a losing candidate actually looks in interviews and such. I think he expected to lose last night, but the margin of victory shocked him and the campaign. There is still a chance but it seems likely its either Trump or a brokered convention.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #691 on: February 24, 2016, 10:53:22 AM »
If the non-Trump vote coalesces around one candidate after Super Tuesday, it's a new race. If not, Trump likely wins the nomination. It's really that simple. Wait. Until. After. Super. Tuesday.
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« Reply #692 on: February 24, 2016, 10:54:25 AM »
Rubio and Cruz should combine as a ticket. Cruz can be VP hatchet man, stumping all the negative crap about the psychopathic democrat candidates and generally humiliating their feeble minds. Rubio can be his intelligent, optimistic, charming, moderate self, without having to sling too much mud.
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« Reply #693 on: February 24, 2016, 10:57:25 AM »
it seems likely its either Trump or a brokered convention.

it might not be the only way to stop him, but it's the easiest way to imagine.
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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #694 on: February 24, 2016, 10:58:27 AM »
:Chirp:
nothing to say about the liquidation of a 68k retirement account at a 40% penalty to buy a fridge and air conditioning unit?  The way he handles his own personal finances is pretty troublesome to me.  Romneys people in 2012 vetted him for VP running mate in 2012 and passed in large part to how much of a mess it was.

Former senators and reps have huge retirement and medical benefits for life. No longer needed his own retirement account.

So, this pub decided to just give the govt like $30k just because his new retirement package was boss?  How conservative of him.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #695 on: February 24, 2016, 11:06:16 AM »
If the non-Trump vote coalesces around one candidate after Super Tuesday, it's a new race. If not, Trump likely wins the nomination. It's really that simple. Wait. Until. After. Super. Tuesday.

I was told to wait until South Carolina, Marco would surely win there after taking 2nd in New Hampshire.  Then there was Nevada, a state Marco thought he could win and spent more than other campaigns in. Maybe "true conservative" just isnt that popular this year?

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« Reply #696 on: February 24, 2016, 11:23:29 AM »
If the non-Trump vote coalesces around one candidate after Super Tuesday, it's a new race. If not, Trump likely wins the nomination. It's really that simple. Wait. Until. After. Super. Tuesday.

I was told to wait until South Carolina, Marco would surely win there after taking 2nd in New Hampshire.  Then there was Nevada, a state Marco thought he could win and spent more than other campaigns in. Maybe "true conservative" just isnt that popular this year?

Which is sad. I am a registered Republican because I believe in limited government, states rights, and free market principles. Trump represents all the things people outside the party accuse it of; Crony Capitalism, Xenophobic, Racist, Classist, Sexist, Old and White, Patriarchal, Ignorant. . . .It is frustrating because I know the party has the ability to be so much more than that.

That is why I support Rubio. He isn't perfect (none of the candidates are) but he has the best opportunity in my mind to be a true conservative in office.

The thing that actually scares me the most is the trickle down effect in elections. If Trump is nominated president, does the party coalesce behind his message? Will anyone running as a republican have to side with all of his views? If they don't, he may end up being an extremely lame duck president and that damage might be irreparable both to the party, but more importantly, to the conservative ideal.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #697 on: February 24, 2016, 11:32:02 AM »
Trump or Cruz in the White House would accomplish absolutely nothing other than adding tons to the deficit by ratcheting up military spending.

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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #698 on: February 24, 2016, 11:50:20 AM »
Cash in your kids future to add better AC in the Sitch Room.


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Re: Marco Rubio Master Thread
« Reply #699 on: February 24, 2016, 11:58:45 AM »
I mean I cashed out my 401k last week for a hover board but at least I'm not running for prez
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