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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #24700 on: May 30, 2013, 01:36:09 PM »
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During the meeting, Gee also said he thought it was a mistake not to include Missouri and Kansas in earlier Big Ten expansion plans. Missouri has since joined the SEC.

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« Reply #24701 on: May 31, 2013, 12:09:59 PM »
In January, Forbes magazine projected this year’s disbursements would be $26.2 million per school for Big 12 members, the largest per-team figure among BCS-affiliated conferences.

$22MM for 8 members. $11MM for WVU and TCU. $198MM total.
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« Reply #24702 on: May 31, 2013, 12:11:10 PM »
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #24703 on: May 31, 2013, 12:41:22 PM »
Anyone know how much Mizzou and A&M made this FY?

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« Reply #24704 on: May 31, 2013, 01:31:21 PM »
Anyone know how much Mizzou and A&M made this FY?

The SEC gave out $20.7MM per team on average. I would guess Mizzou and A&M got less and the other 12 got slightly more.
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« Reply #24705 on: May 31, 2013, 01:52:56 PM »
Anyone know how much Mizzou and A&M made this FY?

The SEC gave out $20.7MM per team on average. I would guess Mizzou and A&M got less and the other 12 got slightly more.

They got full shares this year, I think. Less than the Big 12, but income per SEC school may double after next season, when their new ESPN deal goes into effect. Missouri will still likely suck, however. They'll just be rich sucky, kind of like Texas.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #24706 on: May 31, 2013, 02:33:21 PM »
Anyone know how much Mizzou and A&M made this FY?

The SEC gave out $20.7MM per team on average. I would guess Mizzou and A&M got less and the other 12 got slightly more.

They got full shares this year, I think. Less than the Big 12, but income per SEC school may double after next season, when their new ESPN deal goes into effect. Missouri will still likely suck, however. They'll just be rich sucky, kind of like Texas.
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« Reply #24707 on: May 31, 2013, 04:48:11 PM »
The Big 10 wants KU so, so bad. 


http://college-football.si.com/2013/05/31/ohio-state-gordon-gee-controversial-comments/?sct=hp_t11_a6&eref=sihp


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• 9:14: “I think the Big Ten needs to be predatory and positive rather than waiting for other people to take away from them. Very candidly, I think we made a mistake. Because thought about adding Missouri and Kansas at the time. There was not a great deal of enthusiasm about that. I think we should have done that at the time. So we would have had Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas and then moved into that other area. I think, by the way, that that can still happen.”

• 11:49: “I would see potentially Missouri and Kansas. By the way it goes without saying this all has to be speculation that remains right here. And I could also see a T that goes south all according to what happens with the ACC, but we need to be ready to move.”


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« Reply #24708 on: May 31, 2013, 04:51:42 PM »
That might be true Beems, but Gee is getting crucified in the aftermath of his comments.


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« Reply #24709 on: May 31, 2013, 04:55:22 PM »
Not saying it's not true, but Gee does say a lot of stuff.

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« Reply #24710 on: May 31, 2013, 04:57:43 PM »
The Big 10 wants KU so, so bad. 


http://college-football.si.com/2013/05/31/ohio-state-gordon-gee-controversial-comments/?sct=hp_t11_a6&eref=sihp


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• 9:14: “I think the Big Ten needs to be predatory and positive rather than waiting for other people to take away from them. Very candidly, I think we made a mistake. Because thought about adding Missouri and Kansas at the time. There was not a great deal of enthusiasm about that. I think we should have done that at the time. So we would have had Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas and then moved into that other area. I think, by the way, that that can still happen.”

• 11:49: “I would see potentially Missouri and Kansas. By the way it goes without saying this all has to be speculation that remains right here. And I could also see a T that goes south all according to what happens with the ACC, but we need to be ready to move.”


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The way I read that was that they didn't want KU, but he did

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« Reply #24711 on: May 31, 2013, 08:02:48 PM »
The Big 10 wants KU so, so bad. 


http://college-football.si.com/2013/05/31/ohio-state-gordon-gee-controversial-comments/?sct=hp_t11_a6&eref=sihp


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• 9:14: “I think the Big Ten needs to be predatory and positive rather than waiting for other people to take away from them. Very candidly, I think we made a mistake. Because thought about adding Missouri and Kansas at the time. There was not a great deal of enthusiasm about that. I think we should have done that at the time. So we would have had Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas and then moved into that other area. I think, by the way, that that can still happen.”

• 11:49: “I would see potentially Missouri and Kansas. By the way it goes without saying this all has to be speculation that remains right here. And I could also see a T that goes south all according to what happens with the ACC, but we need to be ready to move.”


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The way I read that was that they didn't want KU, but he did

You read it correctly.

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« Reply #24712 on: May 31, 2013, 08:24:07 PM »
Being in the B10 would honestly suck.

IDK about the rest of you but it just seems like vanilla old school grandpa football.

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Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #24713 on: May 31, 2013, 09:53:04 PM »
Good luck beems

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #24714 on: May 31, 2013, 11:13:56 PM »
Just heard the B10 plane was on a path to land on the turf farm runway that is Lawrence municipal airport.

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« Reply #24715 on: June 01, 2013, 12:14:42 AM »
Just heard the B10 plane was on a path to land on the turf farm runway that is Lawrence municipal airport.

Lawrence has an airport or airfield?   :surprised:

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« Reply #24716 on: June 01, 2013, 12:54:24 AM »
Just heard the B10 plane was on a path to land on the turf farm runway that is Lawrence municipal airport.

Hmmm, I heard they were landing on the track at Memorial Stadium.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #24717 on: June 01, 2013, 09:35:45 AM »
The Big 10 wants KU so, so bad. 


http://college-football.si.com/2013/05/31/ohio-state-gordon-gee-controversial-comments/?sct=hp_t11_a6&eref=sihp


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• 9:14: “I think the Big Ten needs to be predatory and positive rather than waiting for other people to take away from them. Very candidly, I think we made a mistake. Because thought about adding Missouri and Kansas at the time. There was not a great deal of enthusiasm about that. I think we should have done that at the time. So we would have had Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas and then moved into that other area. I think, by the way, that that can still happen.”

• 11:49: “I would see potentially Missouri and Kansas. By the way it goes without saying this all has to be speculation that remains right here. And I could also see a T that goes south all according to what happens with the ACC, but we need to be ready to move.”


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The way I read that was that they didn't want KU, but he did

Yeah, there is a lot of, "I," in there.

There was also the comment in between said first-person comments that said there wasn't a lot of interest in KU and Mizzou.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #24718 on: June 01, 2013, 10:21:57 AM »
Just heard the B10 plane was on a path to land on the turf farm runway that is Lawrence municipal airport.

They would be in the PAC12 right now if Larry Scott could have landed in Lawrence, but the runway was too short.

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« Reply #24719 on: June 01, 2013, 10:30:09 AM »
Grats', Beems!  We're really going to miss you...

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« Reply #24720 on: June 01, 2013, 10:30:39 AM »
A- Source that KU has an offer and Mizzou will join KU in the big 10 in the next 4 years. 'grats EMAJs

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« Reply #24721 on: June 01, 2013, 01:30:29 PM »
$22 million dollars says they aren't going anywhere.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #24722 on: June 01, 2013, 01:38:23 PM »
can confirm the rumors.  will miss them, but luckily they aren't really that good at anything.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #24723 on: June 02, 2013, 01:05:08 PM »
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We'll get a pretty significant ramp-up from here on out," Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said. "That moves up this next year due to a signing bonus from ESPN, and then after that, the new TV deal and the Champions Bowl kicks in."

The Big 12 just completed the first year of its 13-year grant of rights deal with ESPN/ABC and Fox Sports, and Bowlsby said the conference's members should be earning more than $40 million per year by the end of that contract.

TCU and West Virginia will receive 67 percent shares in the 2013-14 school year, 84 percent shares in 2014-15 and full shares in 2015-16.

That number could reach $30 million per school soon as the money from the conference's media rights deals escalates later in the contract, and the Big 12 will distribute approximately $4 million more once the contract from its Champions Bowl agreement with the SEC begins.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9329322/big-12-conference-distributes-198-million-10-schools

The Big 12 schools made more money this year than the SEC schools.  They are only distributing 21.7M per school this year.  Our 22M per school doesn't include third tier, so KU, for example, is making WAY more than Mizzou, for example.  KU makes a bunch on basketball third tier. 

I hadn't realized that ours is going to ratchet up so much in the coming years.  The SEC network is going to have to be a huge windfall to make them have a significant amount more than us (per school) in the future. 




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« Reply #24724 on: June 02, 2013, 01:12:58 PM »
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We'll get a pretty significant ramp-up from here on out," Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said. "That moves up this next year due to a signing bonus from ESPN, and then after that, the new TV deal and the Champions Bowl kicks in."

The Big 12 just completed the first year of its 13-year grant of rights deal with ESPN/ABC and Fox Sports, and Bowlsby said the conference's members should be earning more than $40 million per year by the end of that contract.

TCU and West Virginia will receive 67 percent shares in the 2013-14 school year, 84 percent shares in 2014-15 and full shares in 2015-16.

That number could reach $30 million per school soon as the money from the conference's media rights deals escalates later in the contract, and the Big 12 will distribute approximately $4 million more once the contract from its Champions Bowl agreement with the SEC begins.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9329322/big-12-conference-distributes-198-million-10-schools

The Big 12 schools made more money this year than the SEC schools.  They are only distributing 21.7M per school this year.  Our 22M per school doesn't include third tier, so KU, for example, is making WAY more than Mizzou, for example.  KU makes a bunch on basketball third tier. 

I hadn't realized that ours is going to ratchet up so much in the coming years.  The SEC network is going to have to be a huge windfall to make them have a significant amount more than us (per school) in the future.

I'm curious as to what the SEC classifies as 3rd tier.  For example, Florida has a 10-year, $10MM per year deal with SunSports.  That includes some non-revenue sports content that is usually considered 3rd tier.  However, a big chunk of that is a Sunday morning broadcast of FB games using Florida's own cameras, including coaches camera film, and using the radio broadcast as the audio.  Will Florida still be allowed to do this?
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