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« Reply #10775 on: September 08, 2011, 03:29:21 PM »
Barry Trammel on BITB basically said the big 12 is dead, OU will call TOD whenever A&M goes to the SEC.  Nothing Texas could do (i.e. revenue share, new commish) would change anything and he doesn’t believe that Texas would do that.  Also said the only people you can trust in the Big 12 is ISU and KSU.  

Big East, baby.  Big East.  


Sounds like they love us. OU may take us along.

Either that or it was an insult and he is saying you can trust us and ISU because it isn't possible for us to have an agenda given lack of options.

I like to think it wasn't an insult. He would have thrown Baylor in there if that were the case.

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« Reply #10776 on: September 08, 2011, 03:30:07 PM »
Barry Trammel on BITB basically said the big 12 is dead, OU will call TOD whenever A&M goes to the SEC.  Nothing Texas could do (i.e. revenue share, new commish) would change anything and he doesn’t believe that Texas would do that.  Also said the only people you can trust in the Big 12 is ISU and KSU.  

Big East, baby.  Big East.  


Sounds like they love us. OU may take us along.

Either that or it was an insult and he is saying you can trust us and ISU because it isn't possible for us to have an agenda given lack of options.

I like to think it wasn't an insult. He would have thrown Baylor in there if that were the case.

Nope, baylor would make them pay for it in court.

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« Reply #10777 on: September 08, 2011, 03:30:22 PM »
Barry Trammel is a tool, and knows about as much as Fitz. 

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« Reply #10778 on: September 08, 2011, 03:32:12 PM »
wait, not only can't they play on Sunday they can't travel?  They are going to be stuck at the Manhattan Clarion stink hole all day sunday? 

 :kstategrad:  <--- MHK economy
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« Reply #10779 on: September 08, 2011, 03:32:25 PM »
Barry Trammel is a tool, and knows about as much as Fitz.  

barry trammel is a saint.

also, every OU reporting website believes they are gone once a&m leaves.
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« Reply #10780 on: September 08, 2011, 03:34:07 PM »
wait, not only can't they play on Sunday they can't travel?  They are going to be stuck at the Manhattan Clarion stink hole all day sunday? 

 :kstategrad:  <--- MHK economy

Could lead to a take over, I mean they will demand that a church be built in MHK so they can worship on Sunday morning after watching themselves play the day before, right?   :ohno:


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« Reply #10781 on: September 08, 2011, 03:35:41 PM »
Barry Trammel is a tool, and knows about as much as Fitz.  

barry trammel is a saint.

also, every OU reporting website believes they are gone once a&m leaves.

he is on sports radio at 5 every day for my drive home from work, and i literally want to slit his throat.  he's a total OU homer and he seems like he'd be BFFs with Snyder.  In other words, he's really old and stupid.

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« Reply #10782 on: September 08, 2011, 03:36:54 PM »
wait, not only can't they play on Sunday they can't travel?  They are going to be stuck at the Manhattan Clarion stink hole all day sunday? 

 :kstategrad:  <--- MHK economy

Could lead to a take over, I mean they will demand that a church be built in MHK so they can worship on Sunday morning after watching themselves play the day before, right?   :ohno:




We've got that covered.

http://www.yellowpages.com/manhattan-ks/mip/church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints-560422?lid=560422

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« Reply #10783 on: September 08, 2011, 03:42:01 PM »
I'd really like to get into a hockey conference.

Hockey East!  Let's fuckin' do it :love:

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« Reply #10784 on: September 08, 2011, 03:48:40 PM »
BITB: 99% the KSU cats land in a BCS league  :ksu:

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« Reply #10785 on: September 08, 2011, 03:51:20 PM »
I liked his stats on attendance earlier.  Made me feel a little better.

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« Reply #10786 on: September 08, 2011, 03:52:17 PM »
I liked his stats on attendance earlier.  Made me feel a little better.

Yeah. Good to know we had more people than like 2 pac 10 teams combined.

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« Reply #10787 on: September 08, 2011, 03:53:09 PM »
BITB's realignment plan. 

The latest Big 12 realignment news is that we could be in a holding pattern for as long as a year.  Ok, whatever, I mean who really knows?

But it's an interesting idea floating around that cooler heads may prevail and we're going to actually put some thought into all this and try very hard to do the right thing by as many schools and fans as possible.  So here's a quick look at what I think may actually work if we put together some special committee with somebody really smart at the head of the table.  You know, like an actual fan or something.

We currently have more than 64 teams so let's scrap the idea of four, 16 team conferences.  Teams that get bumped and teams that can't get in would lobby Congress and there could be all kinds of mayhem.  Let's think 72 teams.  I know, nobody's said anything like this and it just sounds like some half baked plan based on a number that's greater than the number of current BCS teams.  But it's not.  It's based on a different number that coaches love... NINE.  Nine?

Coaches love the idea of 9 in a division because that's 8 league games and four non conference games.  See, the idea is to do the right thing by as many people as possible.  Coaches, check.

Now you take two of these nines and call them a "super conference".  Seems we could make most everyone happy with Big Ten, SEC, Pac 18 and ACC.  Check.

Then you take all 8 division winners, true division winners because of the round robin format, and you have yourself a nice, tidy playoff.  Seed them 1-8 however you like, nobody will care, it's a playoff.  Fans are happy.  Check.

The other 64 teams are all bowl category teams so the bowls stay in place and they're happy.  Check.

What about independents like Notre Dame and BYU and a school like Texas with it's own network?  Well, you have a massive tv deal for ALL DIVISION GAMES that everyone splits equally 72 ways.  The other four games are the unique and individual property of the schools or the conferences.   Texas could have all four on LHN, Notre Dame could have four on NBC and keep all the money for themselves.  This give the bigger schools and programs a big financial advantage, but again, we're trying to make everyone happy.  The biggest issue here could be Big Ten Network but they would have 18 teams with four non-cons each that they could air on BTN.  That's 72 games if they wanted and that's plenty.

So that leaves us with one really huge problem we still haven't addressed and that's rivalries.  What if OU and Texas wind up in separate divisions.  Or programs like Michigan, Ohio State and Notre Dame?   Seems easy enough to me that you ask everyone to pick their biggest rival not in their division and play them in the non-conference.  Remember, you get to go sell that thing all to yourself and keep all the money.   Which of the big boys wouldn't love to do that?

This plan would generate record revenue, include the most teams and fans, create a playoff, protect the bowls, keep the game geographically sane and protect the special interests of the biggest programs.   I'm sure there are holes and gaps in this thing somewhere, I've only been working on it for a day.  But it seems to me the biggest issues are covered here and the rest of it can't be that hard to figure out.
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« Reply #10788 on: September 08, 2011, 03:54:47 PM »
BITB: 99% the KSU cats land in a BCS league  :ksu:

Did he happen to mention said league's chance of being a conference 5 years from now?

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« Reply #10789 on: September 08, 2011, 03:59:06 PM »
BITB's realignment plan. 

The latest Big 12 realignment news is that we could be in a holding pattern for as long as a year.  Ok, whatever, I mean who really knows?

But it's an interesting idea floating around that cooler heads may prevail and we're going to actually put some thought into all this and try very hard to do the right thing by as many schools and fans as possible.  So here's a quick look at what I think may actually work if we put together some special committee with somebody really smart at the head of the table.  You know, like an actual fan or something.

We currently have more than 64 teams so let's scrap the idea of four, 16 team conferences.  Teams that get bumped and teams that can't get in would lobby Congress and there could be all kinds of mayhem.  Let's think 72 teams.  I know, nobody's said anything like this and it just sounds like some half baked plan based on a number that's greater than the number of current BCS teams.  But it's not.  It's based on a different number that coaches love... NINE.  Nine?

Coaches love the idea of 9 in a division because that's 8 league games and four non conference games.  See, the idea is to do the right thing by as many people as possible.  Coaches, check.

Now you take two of these nines and call them a "super conference".  Seems we could make most everyone happy with Big Ten, SEC, Pac 18 and ACC.  Check.

Then you take all 8 division winners, true division winners because of the round robin format, and you have yourself a nice, tidy playoff.  Seed them 1-8 however you like, nobody will care, it's a playoff.  Fans are happy.  Check.

The other 64 teams are all bowl category teams so the bowls stay in place and they're happy.  Check.

What about independents like Notre Dame and BYU and a school like Texas with it's own network?  Well, you have a massive tv deal for ALL DIVISION GAMES that everyone splits equally 72 ways.  The other four games are the unique and individual property of the schools or the conferences.   Texas could have all four on LHN, Notre Dame could have four on NBC and keep all the money for themselves.  This give the bigger schools and programs a big financial advantage, but again, we're trying to make everyone happy.  The biggest issue here could be Big Ten Network but they would have 18 teams with four non-cons each that they could air on BTN.  That's 72 games if they wanted and that's plenty.

So that leaves us with one really huge problem we still haven't addressed and that's rivalries.  What if OU and Texas wind up in separate divisions.  Or programs like Michigan, Ohio State and Notre Dame?   Seems easy enough to me that you ask everyone to pick their biggest rival not in their division and play them in the non-conference.  Remember, you get to go sell that thing all to yourself and keep all the money.   Which of the big boys wouldn't love to do that?

This plan would generate record revenue, include the most teams and fans, create a playoff, protect the bowls, keep the game geographically sane and protect the special interests of the biggest programs.   I'm sure there are holes and gaps in this thing somewhere, I've only been working on it for a day.  But it seems to me the biggest issues are covered here and the rest of it can't be that hard to figure out.

I think that any plan like that would have to include an at-large playoff bid for programs that are not in the superconferences.

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« Reply #10790 on: September 08, 2011, 04:01:34 PM »


I think that any plan like that would have to include an at-large playoff bid for programs that are not in the superconferences.

Not to mention that certain conferences/divisions would be crappier/better than others and would demand at-large berths. 

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« Reply #10791 on: September 08, 2011, 04:02:55 PM »
Just caught up on today's action.  Which was basically nothing. 

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« Reply #10792 on: September 08, 2011, 04:03:57 PM »
Barry Trammel is a tool, and knows about as much as Fitz. 

A complete moron.  The interview was hilarious, every bit was speculative a couple times he stopped just short of saying "well just because that's why." Zacker and I haven't went at it recently and it makes my heart feel good so I do this with trepidation.  His opinion on the Trammel interview is born out of his need to be correct about all of this crap.  Trammel is spitballing just like the rest of us, its pretty obvious.

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« Reply #10793 on: September 08, 2011, 04:05:13 PM »
Barry Trammel is a tool, and knows about as much as Fitz. 

A complete moron.  The interview was hilarious, every bit was speculative a couple times he stopped just short of saying "well just because that's why." Zacker and I haven't went at it recently and it makes my heart feel good so I do this with trepidation.  His opinion on the Trammel interview is born out of his need to be correct about all of this crap.  Trammel is spitballing just like the rest of us, its pretty obvious.

I dunno...Fitz did know about Patterson....

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« Reply #10794 on: September 08, 2011, 04:07:03 PM »
BITB: 99% the KSU cats land in a BCS league  :ksu:
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« Reply #10795 on: September 08, 2011, 04:09:50 PM »
So, since we are Big East bound who is going to start up the fire Snyder, hire RichRod campaign?  

We should do this no matter what conference we are in FTR.

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« Reply #10796 on: September 08, 2011, 04:12:20 PM »
Barry Trammel on BITB basically said the big 12 is dead, OU will call TOD whenever A&M goes to the SEC.  Nothing Texas could do (i.e. revenue share, new commish) would change anything and he doesn’t believe that Texas would do that.  Also said the only people you can trust in the Big 12 is ISU and KSU.  

Big East, baby.  Big East.  


read:  KSU and ISU the only schools without options so no need to be deceptive

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« Reply #10797 on: September 08, 2011, 04:14:27 PM »
BITB: 99% the KSU cats land in a BCS league  :ksu:
This makes me feel warm and fuzzy on the inside

There are current 67 BCS schools.  68 if you include TCU (since they'll be in the BCS next year).

If you cut out the following four schools, everyone gets a spot:

TCU
USF
Baylor
ISU

Now, put KSU up against those four, realistically, and I'd say it's 90% on merit.  Throw the fact that we're lumped into the same BOR as KU, and you have 100%.

No way we're left out of any 64 team scenario.

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« Reply #10798 on: September 08, 2011, 04:15:34 PM »
So, since we are Big East bound who is going to start up the fire Snyder, hire RichRod campaign?  

We should do this no matter what conference we are in FTR.

If we make a move in the next year, I think you'll have RichRod, Leach, and Mark Richt on the market.

I mean, seriously, why are we even still paying Snyder?  Just fire him.

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« Reply #10799 on: September 08, 2011, 04:16:16 PM »
BITB: 99% the KSU cats land in a BCS league  :ksu:
This makes me feel warm and fuzzy on the inside

There are current 67 BCS schools.  68 if you include TCU (since they'll be in the BCS next year).

If you cut out the following four schools, everyone gets a spot:

TCU
USF
Baylor
ISU

Now, put KSU up against those four, realistically, and I'd say it's 90% on merit.  Throw the fact that we're lumped into the same BOR as KU, and you have 100%.

No way we're left out of any 64 team scenario.

This is starting to feel like Bracketology.