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« Reply #10825 on: September 08, 2011, 10:03:58 PM »
three days ago he said the exact opposite.  He knows jack diddly.
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« Reply #10826 on: September 08, 2011, 10:39:46 PM »
oh my. tboone just went insane on espn and said that he didn't think the big12 would end, that he didn't want it to end, that he knew more than the papers, that he didn't think aTm was leaving, that they needed to share revenue more equally, that he thought they would, etc.

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« Reply #10827 on: September 08, 2011, 10:48:51 PM »
Damnit I hope tomorrow is much more exciting than today.  It's looking like I wont have crap to do so hopefully Mipp12 and some of the other great insiders, not you fitz, not you trammel, not you gottlieb, not you fescoe, bring in some great info.


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« Reply #10828 on: September 08, 2011, 11:26:35 PM »
can't wait to bump this thread in a few years as long as the idiots running the joint don't sell out to a has been LB again..... :nono:
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« Reply #10829 on: September 09, 2011, 06:33:47 AM »
What is the difference between the annual revenue we can expect from a Big East tv contract compared to the new Big XII contract that would net each school around $10 million a year.  Are we talking half the amount? 

http://outkickthecoverage.com/big-12-television-contract-likely-to-protect-league.php



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« Reply #10830 on: September 09, 2011, 07:12:53 AM »
wabash . . . if the Big 12 exists next year, as I understand it, the TV contracts will pay each school a minimum of around $14 million a year, about $9 million each a year from Fox, and about $4 million each from ESPN, about 25% of the annual ESPN pay out is based on appearances.  So a school that has more appearances could make more than $14 million.   The Fox Deal is shared equally amongst the schools.   With Bowl payouts and and NCAA tourney sharing, each school will make more than $14 million, with some pushing $20 million.

Apparently the Big East doesn't divulge the actual numbers, but speculation is, the Big East Football Schools make about $10 million a year from TV contracts.   The thing is, the Big East's ESPN contracts expire in 2012 (Basketball) and 2014 (Football).   It's been reported that the Big East was close to a contract extension with ESPN and CBS a few months ago that was worth more money, but the Pac-12 TV deal was announced and the Big East backed off. 



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« Reply #10831 on: September 09, 2011, 07:46:03 AM »
What is the difference between the annual revenue we can expect from a Big East tv contract compared to the new Big XII contract that would net each school around $10 million a year.  Are we talking half the amount? 

http://outkickthecoverage.com/big-12-television-contract-likely-to-protect-league.php

Best article yet...

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« Reply #10832 on: September 09, 2011, 08:25:53 AM »
wabash . . . if the Big 12 exists next year, as I understand it, the TV contracts will pay each school a minimum of around $14 million a year, about $9 million each a year from Fox, and about $4 million each from ESPN, about 25% of the annual ESPN pay out is based on appearances.  So a school that has more appearances could make more than $14 million.   The Fox Deal is shared equally amongst the schools.   With Bowl payouts and and NCAA tourney sharing, each school will make more than $14 million, with some pushing $20 million.

Apparently the Big East doesn't divulge the actual numbers, but speculation is, the Big East Football Schools make about $10 million a year from TV contracts.   The thing is, the Big East's ESPN contracts expire in 2012 (Basketball) and 2014 (Football).   It's been reported that the Big East was close to a contract extension with ESPN and CBS a few months ago that was worth more money, but the Pac-12 TV deal was announced and the Big East backed off. 


So it would be less, but not markedly less with a future renegotiated contract in theory.  (All dependent on the league not being totally picked apart by the SEC, ACC, big 10, etc).

Doesn’t seem terrible actually - 10 million range, even with additional travel costs.

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« Reply #10833 on: September 09, 2011, 08:35:16 AM »
What is the difference between the annual revenue we can expect from a Big East tv contract compared to the new Big XII contract that would net each school around $10 million a year.  Are we talking half the amount? 

http://outkickthecoverage.com/big-12-television-contract-likely-to-protect-league.php

Best article yet...


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« Reply #10834 on: September 09, 2011, 08:36:12 AM »
man. i sure wish somebody smart like cpt crap or something was reading this thread and could set us all straight.

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« Reply #10835 on: September 09, 2011, 08:49:39 AM »
wabash . . . if the Big 12 exists next year, as I understand it, the TV contracts will pay each school a minimum of around $14 million a year, about $9 million each a year from Fox, and about $4 million each from ESPN, about 25% of the annual ESPN pay out is based on appearances.  So a school that has more appearances could make more than $14 million.   The Fox Deal is shared equally amongst the schools.   With Bowl payouts and and NCAA tourney sharing, each school will make more than $14 million, with some pushing $20 million.

Apparently the Big East doesn't divulge the actual numbers, but speculation is, the Big East Football Schools make about $10 million a year from TV contracts.   The thing is, the Big East's ESPN contracts expire in 2012 (Basketball) and 2014 (Football).   It's been reported that the Big East was close to a contract extension with ESPN and CBS a few months ago that was worth more money, but the Pac-12 TV deal was announced and the Big East backed off. 




Just how good will it get for the Big East? Marinatto and the league presidents turned down a reported nine-year, $1 billion deal from ESPN to let the current deal run its course—and allow the Big East to negotiate with all interested parties.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-08-02/big-east-expected-to-have-plenty-of-suitors-for-next-tv-deal

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« Reply #10836 on: September 09, 2011, 09:14:36 AM »
What is the difference between the annual revenue we can expect from a Big East tv contract compared to the new Big XII contract that would net each school around $10 million a year.  Are we talking half the amount? 

http://outkickthecoverage.com/big-12-television-contract-likely-to-protect-league.php

Best article yet...

it is a great article but it's very short term focused.  The risk to staying in the big 12 and pocketing the $$$ for thenext ten years is what happens when the music stops?  Ten years from now will espn or fox re-up with a crippled league?  Doubtful...then what?

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« Reply #10837 on: September 09, 2011, 09:17:19 AM »
What is the difference between the annual revenue we can expect from a Big East tv contract compared to the new Big XII contract that would net each school around $10 million a year.  Are we talking half the amount? 

http://outkickthecoverage.com/big-12-television-contract-likely-to-protect-league.php

Best article yet...

it is a great article but it's very short term focused.  The risk to staying in the big 12 and pocketing the $$$ for thenext ten years is what happens when the music stops?  Ten years from now will espn or fox re-up with a crippled league?  Doubtful...then what?

I'm less concerned about that than I am the renegotiation of our Tier 1 contract in the next year or 2:

http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011/05/05/televison-contract-breakdown/

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« Reply #10838 on: September 09, 2011, 09:27:00 AM »
What is the difference between the annual revenue we can expect from a Big East tv contract compared to the new Big XII contract that would net each school around $10 million a year.  Are we talking half the amount? 

http://outkickthecoverage.com/big-12-television-contract-likely-to-protect-league.php

Best article yet...

Well, add in the variable of the SEC needing a 14th, most likely WVU in this scenario, and yes, you will have the ability to buy off some Big East teams.

Provided Texas stays, which I think they will.

If WVU falls, the Big East is every bit as vulnerable as we are.  Maybe more so because they have no guaranteed money to stand on.  Our outdated contracts are worth as much as the ACC's recently added ones.  There's a lot of money to go around here if you're willing to chance it.

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« Reply #10839 on: September 09, 2011, 09:32:15 AM »
man. i sure wish somebody smart like cpt crap or something was reading this thread and could set us all straight.
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« Reply #10840 on: September 09, 2011, 09:33:08 AM »
There are a lot of gems in this article.

http://v4.texags.com/Stories/2873

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« Reply #10841 on: September 09, 2011, 09:45:20 AM »
Trying to figure out who's fanbase is worse ku or a&m.
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« Reply #10842 on: September 09, 2011, 09:50:45 AM »
There are a lot of gems in this article.

http://v4.texags.com/Stories/2873

That was painful to read.  Kellis is a better writer.
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« Reply #10843 on: September 09, 2011, 09:57:56 AM »
What is the difference between the annual revenue we can expect from a Big East tv contract compared to the new Big XII contract that would net each school around $10 million a year.  Are we talking half the amount?  

http://outkickthecoverage.com/big-12-television-contract-likely-to-protect-league.php

Best article yet...

it is a great article but it's very short term focused.  The risk to staying in the big 12 and pocketing the $$$ for thenext ten years is what happens when the music stops?  Ten years from now will espn or fox re-up with a crippled league?  Doubtful...then what?
We need to buy a some time, so being short term is ok so long as realignment doesn't pass us buy while we're lounging in our luxurious wealth.  :kstategrad:

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« Reply #10844 on: September 09, 2011, 09:58:28 AM »
Trying to figure out who's fanbase is worse ku or a&m.

Every fan base has 3 wings: students, alum, and non-alum.  Aggy cult alum are 100x worse that KU alum.  KU non-alum t-shirt fans are 100x worse than A&M non-alum who have not been through the cult brainwashing.  The kicker here is the students. A&M students are worse with yell-practice, 1/2 their corp of cadets being toy soldiers and basically only being parade & ceremony cadets only, and their worship of dead colliedogs.  Add in the massive inferiority complex and A&M is worse.
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« Reply #10846 on: September 09, 2011, 10:09:22 AM »
What is the difference between the annual revenue we can expect from a Big East tv contract compared to the new Big XII contract that would net each school around $10 million a year.  Are we talking half the amount?  

http://outkickthecoverage.com/big-12-television-contract-likely-to-protect-league.php

Best article yet...

it is a great article but it's very short term focused.  The risk to staying in the big 12 and pocketing the $$$ for thenext ten years is what happens when the music stops?  Ten years from now will espn or fox re-up with a crippled league?  Doubtful...then what?
We need to buy a some time, so being short term is ok so long as realignment doesn't pass us buy while we're lounging in our luxurious wealth.  :kstategrad:

There won't be any realignment until this is done.  Scott wants Slive to go first.  Delany is just going to hang out for a while.

A&M is just going to hang in limbo until the SEC makes a decision as to whether or not they're going to require a waiver.

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« Reply #10847 on: September 09, 2011, 10:11:47 AM »
There are a lot of gems in this article.

http://v4.texags.com/Stories/2873

You can read that whole thing over and over, but at the end of the day, Aggy seems to forget that they signed a long-term billion dollar contract that they're just walking away from.

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« Reply #10848 on: September 09, 2011, 10:12:31 AM »
What is the difference between the annual revenue we can expect from a Big East tv contract compared to the new Big XII contract that would net each school around $10 million a year.  Are we talking half the amount?  

http://outkickthecoverage.com/big-12-television-contract-likely-to-protect-league.php

Best article yet...

it is a great article but it's very short term focused.  The risk to staying in the big 12 and pocketing the $$$ for thenext ten years is what happens when the music stops?  Ten years from now will espn or fox re-up with a crippled league?  Doubtful...then what?
We need to buy a some time, so being short term is ok so long as realignment doesn't pass us buy while we're lounging in our luxurious wealth.  :kstategrad:

There won't be any realignment until this is done.  Scott wants Slive to go first.  Delany is just going to hang out for a while.

A&M is just going to hang in limbo until the SEC makes a decision as to whether or not they're going to require a waiver.

To pretend Starr didn't absolutely get better of ATM is pretty crazy.  Ultimately, it will garner BU some $$, at the very least.

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« Reply #10849 on: September 09, 2011, 10:32:14 AM »
Good call on the cult AND the inferiority complex.  I've been following one of their accounts on twitter that is just retweeting Aggie fans, and nothing they say makes any sense.  What Baylor is doing is perfectly reasonable, given the circumstances.  Trying to shame them into allowing A&M to break contracts willy-nilly is probably not going to work I'm thinking.