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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #35125 on: April 11, 2023, 06:01:58 PM »
Now we may find that the Big 10 presidents wanted to add Cal and Standford to keep the California pod for traveling and with their huge research funds would make nice additions.
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« Reply #35126 on: April 11, 2023, 06:39:33 PM »
Now we may find that the Big 10 presidents wanted to add Cal and Standford to keep the California pod for traveling and with their huge research funds would make nice additions.
How long would they (or any non sec/big 10 school) take a 50% reduction to get invited? Unless the school thinks some sort of major changes to college TV rights  are coming (like equal rights collective bargaining,...yea right), then even a 30-50 year agreement would probably make financial sense. Swallowing pride is hard though.
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« Reply #35127 on: April 11, 2023, 06:49:54 PM »
My belief is that Cal and Stanford are mumped, because the big 10 likes money.  Almost zero chance, IMO, that academics play any part in this for the big 10 going forward.

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« Reply #35128 on: April 11, 2023, 08:27:27 PM »
I think their reasoning is the California pod will save the conference considerable money in travel experience, as it isn't just the California schools but also the cost to the other Big 10 schools.  I suspect the eastern schools will also appreciate the fact that they may be more competitive by adding Cal and Stanford and not looking at getting an ass beating when traveling across the country.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #35129 on: April 11, 2023, 09:41:00 PM »
My belief is that Cal and Stanford are mumped, because the big 10 likes money.  Almost zero chance, IMO, that academics play any part in this for the big 10 going forward.

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« Reply #35130 on: April 12, 2023, 10:32:34 AM »
Wasn't there just a story that the B10 wanted Oregon with USC but felt compelled to take UCLA to ensure USC would happen?  I don't think they give a eff about Cal and Stanford.

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« Reply #35131 on: April 12, 2023, 11:12:08 AM »
Yep. And if, IF, the big 10 gave a crap about USC and UCLA’s travel burden (I strongly doubt that they do), then adding Oregon and Washington would be vastly better better than Stanford or Cal.

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« Reply #35132 on: April 12, 2023, 11:22:54 AM »
then adding Oregon and Washington would be vastly better better than Stanford or Cal.
how so?


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #35133 on: April 12, 2023, 01:19:51 PM »
My perception is that they bring larger fan bases and more TV interest.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #35134 on: April 12, 2023, 01:20:54 PM »
Also (and you know this about me), I am only considering the revenue sports. I acknowledge that Stanford is elite in many non-revenue sports.

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« Reply #35135 on: April 12, 2023, 01:32:02 PM »
Ah, I thought you were staying that Oregon and Washington would be more convenient travel partners, not better revenue generators.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #35136 on: April 13, 2023, 11:31:42 AM »
Ah, I thought you were staying that Oregon and Washington would be more convenient travel partners, not better revenue generators.
They definitely are easier to get to than Rutgers, but they really wouldn’t make super “travel partners.”  Tho, Cal and Stanford might be better travel partners for Oregon and Washington than USC and UCLA. California is a very long state.

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« Reply #35137 on: April 13, 2023, 10:37:19 PM »
Yeah, my nickname in college was Mr California, for obvious reasons
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« Reply #35138 on: April 14, 2023, 08:26:11 AM »
Yeah, my nickname in college was Mr California, for obvious reasons

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« Reply #35139 on: April 14, 2023, 10:15:50 AM »
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« Reply #35140 on: April 14, 2023, 12:18:35 PM »
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #35143 on: April 22, 2023, 11:25:21 AM »
https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1649501682290806784

wow, what a mess, of course he knew

If it was all verbal, and they can't produce any documentary evidence, it will be difficult to prove. However, if they can find some witnesses (other than themselves) who can confirm their account based on contemporary conversations, it's doable.
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« Reply #35144 on: April 22, 2023, 11:33:00 AM »
Got ourselves a bit of a Tom Wambsgans cruise ship situation here
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #35145 on: April 22, 2023, 04:39:07 PM »
https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1649501682290806784

wow, what a mess, of course he knew

If it was all verbal, and they can't produce any documentary evidence, it will be difficult to prove. However, if they can find some witnesses (other than themselves) who can confirm their account based on contemporary conversations, it's doable.

These are executives, they have a duty to disclose to the Board, "but I told my boss" is not a great defense at that level.  Also, it was the new boss who fired them, if it had been Scott then they might have a case. 

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #35146 on: April 23, 2023, 09:51:22 AM »
I just can't believe top exec.s' don't have backup documents such as e-mails or memos, and if they don't they deserve to be fired due to incompetence.
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« Reply #35147 on: April 23, 2023, 09:58:31 AM »
New podcast bs about NBC bidding on the full package with USA broadcasting most of the games and Peacock having one streaming game per week.  Also, if NBC has open time slots they will broadcast a few games per season along with the CCG.

IF TRUE, George needs to get on this ASAP.
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« Reply #35148 on: April 23, 2023, 01:58:46 PM »
This is only a guess, but according to recent information from the Colorado Chancalar's interview, they may be getting a network deal that is mostly linear.   Sounds like there may be smoke in the NBC rumors and he is saying they are getting close to a contract proposal.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #35149 on: April 23, 2023, 02:17:05 PM »
I just can't believe top exec.s' don't have backup documents such as e-mails or memos, and if they don't they deserve to be fired due to incompetence.

You think there's documents from Larry Scott knowingly ripping off a media partner? I know he was stupid, but no one is dumb enough to leave a paper trail doing that.